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The Toast Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Details
- Podcast Title: The Toast
- Hosts: Jackie and Claudia Oshry
- Episode Title: First Chooseday in May: Tuesday, May 6th, 2025
- Description: Discussion of the Met Gala 2025, featuring celebrity outfit reviews and commentary.
Key Topics Discussed
- Met Gala 2025 Overview
- Theme: Superfine Tailoring and Black Style, celebrating Black Dandyism.
- Expectation: A diverse representation of menswear focusing on tailoring.
- General Consensus: Most attendees executed the theme well, with few exceptions.
- Fashion Highlights
- Best Dressed:
- Teyana Taylor: Lauded for her comprehensive homage to the theme with a tailored outfit.
- Zendaya: Praised for her elegance and perfect tailoring.
- Kabi Lame: Noted for a unique and standout look that incorporated elements of Black Dandyism.
- Doja Cat: Recognized for her quirky and artistic interpretation of the theme.
- Worst Dressed:
- Gail King: Critiqued for a poorly fitted and uninspired outfit.
- Heidi Klum: Labeled as boring and not fitting the theme, described as prom-like.
- Celebrity Insights
- Rihanna's Pregnancy Reveal: Attended the gala showcasing her pregnancy.
- Timothée Chalamet: Missed the gala to watch a New York Knicks playoff game, sparking discussions on his priorities.
- Kim Kardashian's New Stylist: Announced a change in stylists as she seeks to revamp her public image.
- Notable Incidents
- BLACKPINK's Lisa: Faced backlash for wearing an outfit featuring Rosa Parks' face on her underwear; conversations centered around cultural appropriation versus artistic expression.
- Fashion Industry Commentary: Discussion on the current state of the fashion industry, critiques of influencers, and reflections on the Met Gala’s accessibility and exclusivity.
- General Observations
- Fashion Trends: Discussion on the prevalence of black attire at the Gala, noting a lack of color that is typically associated with Black Dandyism.
- Media Coverage: Commentary on the quality of red carpet interviews and coverage, particularly criticizing Lala Anthony’s repetitive questioning.
Key Takeaways
- The Met Gala 2025 offered a blend of fashion brilliance and disappointment, with discussions on cultural significance, personal expression, and representation.
- There is a growing awareness and critique of fashion choices in terms of cultural appropriation.
- The hosts emphasized the importance of individuality and creativity in fashion, urging attendees to fully embody the themes presented each year.
Closing Remarks The episode closed with the hosts sharing personal insights, promising to revisit the remaining topics in future episodes, and expressing their commitment to addressing their audience’s feedback on fashion critiques.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy tuesday or should i say the first tuesday in may very big day here at the toast studios hey jack's how you darn it is darn good we have our metgala extravaganza today last night was the first monday night in may yes and since you know joan rivers has passed and everybody's afraid of being mean jackie and i are here just to let everyone know take up the mantle we will do it we will say what needs to be said even though I actually don't have that many mean thoughts from last night. No, me neither. I actually have one overarching main thought. Okay.
1:01Sorry, no, that's mean. Everything else is super positive, but one of my rants that I need to go on is like a niche mean comment. But other than that, like I actually thought it was quite fabulous. Yeah, what I liked about the theme, and we'll get into it, is that some people executed it excellently and they looked amazing, and then the people who didn't just looked a little boring, but nobody looked bad, which was kind of nice. Nobody was uggo. Nobody looked like a clown. Actually. Who was clown like? Unfortunately, we're going to save our best and worst dressed, right? Yeah, I have my best, of course.
1:30But worse, I'm going to wait until we evaluate everyone. Oh, obviously, true to Trudy Fashion, I had my worst before I had my best. My worst is Ben Platt, even though he wasn't there. Because he's my worst every year. And wherever he was last night, I'm sure he was looking terrible. I love that. No, I agree. Like, everybody really got on board. I thought for sure it was going to be a confusing theme since it's menswear and like men are always doing the absolute least at the Met Gala. But I thought it was a fabulous theme. I love how everybody executed it. I have so many thoughts. I watched the Vogue live stream.
2:01We're going to go through all the looks. Every year people ask us on YouTube, why don't you put up the photos of the celebrities outfits? And it's like, girl, we don't want to get sued. So what we always do and what we're going to do this year, if you look at the description of the episode, wherever you're watching it, we're going to post the Vogue link that we are personally going through. We're going to go in order scrolling. We're not going to go through everybody. We're not going to go through everybody. there's some true nobody's there and the people we hate but we'll scroll through together and we'll go through all the outfits and i'm sure all the stories are like met gala related because everybody was just out and about last night yeah there was some news that emerged from the met gala you know most notably rihanna's pregnant right so you can enjoy a little pregnancy with rihanna she got in just at the 11th hour how far how far along do you think she was like based on her belly like five months uh I think less maybe like four months but it's like her third pregnancy so you like look bigger yeah yeah so let's say four she's like kind of always doing the most and I need her to stop like I've been thinking a lot during my pregnancy about the fact that she did the Super Bowl pregnant meanwhile like literally me getting up to go to the bathroom is the Super Bowl and yeah here she is again like doing the mech out like I kind of need her to stop no I know but it's really sweet it is and it's like it is really nice to see somebody like use all of her big moments to promote her motherhood you know yeah she's not promoting fenty she's promoting just like her family i also feel like there's a big conversation well always because people are always talking about women but also like just women in general and becoming moms and working and how do you be a successful woman and then i have children and like people push it off and I love that she's just doing it like bada bing bada boom another one no if I had a billion dollar company I would also be doing it like on at all times you know feel like no now it's not the time we've got to take Fenty to the next level like there's always more you can do so I think her being like everyone on pause I'm putting my family first I think it's a great example for women it is but like it's not relatable because I think so much of what people not everyone but a lot of women like wait financially right like it's a lot of pressure to like have a baby and it's really expensive and that's what Mindy Kaling said once and she was like I'm so lucky like I literally designed my life I made all this money and then I was able to have kids the way that I wanted like that's not how it normally works for people so like yes it's really inspiring but it's not applicable to everyone because I think a lot of people waiting for like if you can't afford a child yet but I'm talking about like women who are kind of crushing it in their careers who are like this is not like they have it's not about the money it's like they want to reach all these benchmarks before they have kids and it just never feels like the right time and it really never is the right time but at a certain point you have to like make the choice like I'm gonna put this on pause and so that Rihanna's doing it one after the other I think it's a great example yeah it's nice it's idyllic for sure yeah uh we also have deer toasters so it's kind of like a really busy day here at HQ yeah it is and I think we could get into Mechelle because that was my entire evening was watching this forlorn live stream where nobody showed up and everybody was late and the interviews were genuinely painful.
5:03And I just wanted to see Luke's. Yeah, and that's kind of one of my overarching points too. I don't feel like, I feel like for so many years, the Met Gala was like this really exclusive, strict, no phones, really like sort of hoity-toity highbrow affair. And last night I was like, okay, people can show up wearing whatever they want. They can show up whenever they want. They can, I saw videos inside. Like it's always been, you can't see inside the guest list. That's my one mean thought. I have a list of people who absolutely should not have been invited. Like it just felt like that sort of mean, exclusive, fashion-y allure is gone.
5:39Like it's too much. Everyone can come, come whatever, wear whatever the fuck you want. Like no bitch, there are rules. Where are the rules? Yeah, especially when you watch the live stream and the biggest names didn't make it in time to be on the live stream, even though it was three hours. if you just saw the people that walk the carpet before 9 p.m there the star power was not there so I was wondering why so many people like there was a bunch of star power in the very beginning which doesn't really happen on red carpets everybody shows up at the end but I guess it's like a logistics nightmare and people just got there just not to miss it but I kept thinking I'm like Zendaya's inside for three hours waiting for the party to start I'm sure there's party happening i'm sure there's food and drinks and music but not the official performances the exhibit like it doesn't really start i'm sure there's things to do you could take like a bunch of you could do the videos that they do i'm sure it's way less stressful to get there on time and be a little bored at the party than to be like kim in the bus with her security stepping on her dress in literally what looks like the worst mood ever being so late and missing the live stream and not getting to chat with lala her bestie at the top of the steps and i'm sorry i have some harsh words for Lala as well.
6:47I think maybe it's time to take a year off. You asking every single person the same exact question when you heard that this was the theme, what were you most excited about? And then every single person, unless it was a person who was really well-versed in Black Dandyism, every single person had the same answer. I was just really looking forward to seeing how everybody else was going to interpret it. Yeah. I guess like if you're just going to ask the one question, then really anybody could do that job. However, I actually didn't have an issue with Lala. I think she's great at her job. She is a professional host.
7:16She's friends with so many people who go there. They obviously feel comfortable with her. And it's a short, succinct, like, inoffensive conversation. That's how I've always felt about Lala. She's the perfect person to have at the top. She's professional. Everybody knows her. And I felt as though she sort of rested on her laurels this year. And she, like, I think they need to take the job away from her. Because now it's just like she's come to expect it. And she's not doing her best. But the odds that they give it to someone who's going to do a better job than her are incredibly slim. Okay. so then Tiana and Ego Nwodem downtown downstairs Tiana Taylor speaking into a microphone is not for you I think that you have more skills and I don't think you should do this again I thought Ego Nwodem was great and I felt like Tiana kept like talking over her and Ego knows everyone because most of these people have come in and done SNL so they could that was like the initial they always had something to talk about whether it be SNL and so I think she did a good job and Tiana Taylor like might have been my best dress but she was one of the worst interviewers and she could not figure out how to talk into the microphone and I just feel like that's kind of basic when you're an interviewer um so the Vogue live stream I didn't watch E I watched Vogue exclusively because it's literally the Vogue MacGal I don't know why I would be watching E when she's like on the carpet like with the worst access flowers yeah Vogue has the best access yeah and they have two stops yeah I just um I think they needed an overhaul in terms of their audio their video and their their hired talent I agree I didn't like the Tiana and Eggo interviews.
8:43She might have been my best dressed as well or one of them, but not my best host. Interviewer. Yeah. Those. So and also I thought that they made Lala look even better. Yes, they did. They were just they were having way more tech issues down there. Like I did not hear one thing. And every person who came by like wasn't told to talk into the microphone, although I assume it's just sort of like it's just kind of understood. Like we're giving you a microphone, talk into it. But they had this booth. It should have been completely like soundproofed. it was really poor quality but also like when lala was talking to someone and their mic was low she put her mic in like that's professional a professional she gave us yeah her mic so i just the conversations were more interesting yeah yeah but we're there for the fashion and judge we shall oh we shall i wish there were more like true uggo looks that i could read to bill because it wasn't an uggo night it wasn't an uggo night and i feel like everybody really tried to toe the line of being like respectful and pargy so i don't have that many mean thoughts but there is there are two people who were so hideously dressed i need to know who it was do you want to guess uh maybe i need to remember like i need to look at the picture so maybe as we're uh but it's definitely men because i just feel like you wouldn't be going so hard on women it is two women oh how exciting you think i wouldn't be going hard on a woman i don't know like you're calling them ugly like you're just going i didn't say ugly i said i didn't say they were you're calling them looks ugly i said i'll go i yeah i don't know i just feel like you would go harder with men and um i'm the men like i don't know men don't make an impact they do they think they do nothing like yeah but at least for this theme if this was actually actually i guess you could have shown up like in a handsome tux and been fine but really no one did that because there was so much for men to work with.
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15:14Check the link in our description. Follow along with us. Follow along with us. As a reminder, this year, the event celebrated Superfine Tailoring Black Style, which is on view at the Met from May 10th to October 26th. The new showcase explores the importance of clothing and style to the formation of Black identities in the Atlantic diaspora and will be arranged by 12 characteristics of Black dandyism. To reflect the theme this year, the dress code for the Met Gala was dubbed Tailored for You, a sartorial mood that is purposefully designed to provide guidance and invite creative interpretation.
15:43The exhibition holds a strong focus on menswear and suiting. And so we saw many Met Gala looks leaning into tailoring. That was one of the words of the night. Tailor me. Yeah. If you wore any type of like suit tuxedo, like you were automatically in dress code marked safe. Like you can, you can be in theme and then we can decide from there. Some people like truly showed up saying, and they were admitting this in her interview, Anne Hathaway, like, uh, you know, I'm not in theme. I'm here to be inspired. So she was, she took a page out of Andre Leon Talley's book, who is like an example of black dandyism.
16:16Black dandyism. She just went like very direct, inspired by him. So didn't. But how? She literally didn't explain how her outfit was inspired by him. It was Carolina Herrera. The big, the big collared shirt. And I think she thought that Andre would love it. You will love it. That's what she said. She said, I just wore this outfit because I knew Andre would love it. I'm sorry. Like that's not in theme. I also have to call out Queen Miley Cyrus. Like seriously, try less to be in theme. Yeah. I'm sure like if you looked at the exhibit and the 12 examples of black dandyism like maybe there you could figure it out.
16:44But I do think some people like broke off a piece of the theme a piece for Serena Williams because every dandy needs a gown as well. Right right right. So like yeah sometimes you don't come at it like the whole thing. Some people were very obvious they wore a dress that had like a suit on top of it. Right or like a tie. Right but sometimes you go into a niche category and that works too. So I wasn't Anna Hathaway was someone to me who I didn't think she like she wasn't my best dress by any means. but I thought she looked really nice and really beautiful. She was able to tie back to the theme and like, that's great.
17:15Like I thought her outfit was like giving, um, dinner dance at your son's school. It was like more so boring than it was bad. And, and it wasn't on theme like her interview. Like that was good media training, but like, I heard what you said, like you weren't in theme. And I, I feel like she's resting on her new face a lot. Everyone's really excited. Everyone's talking about it. That she did something with her face. No one can identify what, which is the best kind of new face. and she looks really beautiful so I think all she had to do was just show up as herself agreed and people are loving her right now so she's just going with it yeah and I'm here like to be a hater and say like your outfit wasn't in theme and it wasn't that pretty you're not very pretty and you're not very bright not me saying I didn't have that many mean thoughts lol okay first up in the vote article is Rihanna who of course missed the live stream as she always does but walked the carpet took photos and showed us her new belly that she showed us earlier in the day.
18:06So my issue with the live stream actually doesn't include Rihanna. Like Rihanna is too cool to care. She misses every live stream. It's not like I think she missed it on purpose. Like I don't think she cared. So I would have loved to have seen her on the live stream. But that's Rihanna. Like she's too cool for school. I'm not talking about Rihanna when I'm talking about all the celebrities that we missed. She looks fabulous. Like I don't know what we expected. Is it my favorite MacGala look of hers ever? No. But I love the belly. The outfit is completely in theme she looks gorgeous like literally no notes yeah 10 out of 10 beautiful love the the belly love next up is one of our hosts coleman domingo and i'm so glad he outfit changed because when he showed up in this big blue robe i was like this is so silly this is just not on tally i know but like it's also just not beautiful do you know what i mean it's yeah i but it is not not beautiful what do you mean he like it's just like it's just not it's not it's just a robe like it's just i don't even know what i'm looking at i was like i was let down because he is like every award season like he's a chair he's a chair but he's also like one of the best dressed men in hollywood and that's why like he was chosen for a chair and that's why there was like a lot of hype and then he showed up in this with the bib and the robe and i was like oh and then he took off the robe and had like a really fab suit on underneath and all was well with Turney.
19:27Yeah. I just want to say I read Andre Leontali's memoir. Yes, you did. So if you're finding that I like, I'm just very braggadocious about my knowledge of Andre Leontali, it's because I read his memoir. And by the way, it's really good. I would highly recommend it. Okay. And I'm glad that I read it like just not just in time. I read it a few years ago, but considering this theme, I'm glad I read it. and you say that this is andre leontale inspired because why like he would wear a big blue cape like this he did wear like lots of like robes and capes and like oversized i don't know if i ever like what i don't think he would ever wear this um i think it's an interpretation you know he didn't take it out of andre's closet but it's interpretation and then coleman did change like how many times i feel like i kept seeing him in different outfits oh i only saw a second one but he was at a lot of the pre-met gala events because he's a host so you probably saw like a lot of paparazzi pictures of him in like official Met Gala garb.
20:23Yeah. So then he did take off the robe and he stunned with another look. Slayed. Like that was a perfect, a perfect look for the theme. Yeah. Next we have Lewis Hamilton, another co-chair of the gala straight from F1 to the Metropolitan Museum. Looking great. He's so cute. Handsome young fella. Yeah. It's, it's good. It's good. Yeah. I don't have that many thoughts on like men's there. Sorry. Me neither. Unless you did something so crazy, which I thought like, or Coleman Domingo's bib was like a little nutty. Oh, that's so crazy. I didn't find it to be nutty. Next we have Pharrell, who was also a co-chair, of course, big figure of the night because a lot of people wore, were dressed by him.
21:07They wore Louis Vuitton from his collections. He was just like very much inspired a lot of people for the evening. He dressed Sabrina. Yes. He did great work. He dressed a lot of really great people. The one who was wearing, was dressed by him or wearing Louis Vuitton seriously looked amazing. His outfit is on theme. It's well tailored. It's handsome. It's not crazy. It's very much, he is a designer. Designers aren't supposed to be like, hey, look at me. So I think it's really an appropriate outfit. Yeah. Next we have ASAP Rocky. This is the first time I'm seeing him because I did not see him on the carpet.
21:36I saw him on the carpet and I was just reminded he's such a handsome young man. Like his face, he's really very handsome. A lot of people were quick to notice. I think another like if you wore a suit like you were you know in theme if you had a cane you were also in oh yeah and so he had a um a cane that the handle looks like a gun it's like a bedazzled gun which is obviously very cool it is a really crazy thing to do because he was just like cleared of gun charges oh that is crazy it's also an umbrella oh and it was raining in New York City last night he looked very handsome he got there hours before his wife oh that's so funny I didn't even see him i actually would have expected he would have done a little more this like feels a little low-key for him yeah i think also like a cornerstone of black dandyism is color and like having fun with color and texture and i saw a lot just a lot of people wore black yeah um which is fine and it's good and in theme but i feel like he's someone who could have had a lot more fun with color yeah agreed next we have emma chamberlain who this is one of two looks uh she wound up changing into courage's look for her interviews and it was sourced from ebay there's a big ebay partnership last night and emma is at the helm of it um she looks cute this is not for me um she looks like the mom from lizzie mcguire she does well that's that's a statement on her hair not the dress the glasses too no the dress so like three different people wore an iteration of this dress suki waterhouse zuri hall and emma chamberlain like a halter tuxedo yeah suit dress Like a suit taped onto a dress.
23:10Yes, like with no back. And so I don't love it. And if I had to choose one of my favorites, it was Suki Waterhouse. This era, Emma Chamberlain's in, is just not my personal era. I feel like she's like a shoe-in. She always is going to be the first one. And I thought she was on the carpet first because she hosts the red carpet. But I didn't see her hosting. But then she went and spoke to Tiana and Ergo and she said that she was hosting. But I didn't see her hosting. Maybe like a TikTok? Maybe like a TikTok. talk i just i expect a lot from her i like i expect a lot from her and this is just mid this feels like emma to me okay it feels like current emma which is not my personal vibe okay next lala anthony i don't really have thoughts yeah no i i don't have thought like i don't love it um but she looks nice and beautiful yeah she's a great girl she's a great gal she is she is i love her.
24:03Tayana Taylor looked amazing. Best dress like and it was great that she showed up first because like I think if people were confused about the theme or didn't understand the theme like this is practical application of policy. And it has many of the elements of black dandyism. So we have cane. We have suit. We have cape. We have top hat. We have feather. We have pinstripe. Pinstripe is another thing like you were if you wore a pinstripe you were good. the feather the hat too i think she actually has like all 12 i don't know how many elements there are i feel like maybe 12 i think she has 12 she's definitely i mean flower she's a top top two like she really looks oh she's top two for you top three she also so much of black dandyism i feel is how you carry yourself and that's something i was feeling the whole night because when they were showing like images and references everyone was like they weren't trying so hard right like this was just like a natural uh expression of your style and they weren't like and so when all these like celebrities were on the red carpet like doing so fucking much like posing so hard and outfit changes i was like that's like the opposite of black dandyism black dandyism is very much like swagger right and just like it's how you carry yourself and that's why tayana really slayed because you just saw her walking like this outfit she was wearing the outfit the outfit wasn't wearing her yeah and maybe there were some people doing too much and i think also now thinking about it that way there are people not doing enough who maybe were like a little like meek and yes hunch over and not feeling confident right and so that's why tayana is such a a well-done look because obviously the outfits completely on theme and party from the inside out but she's carrying it too like it's also an attitude i feel i agree i agree next to ego and wadam i thought she looked great oh like i have no i have no issues with this i don't love it but it's like yeah no issue cute it's not offensive oh we need to move on to zendaya next zendaya so she showed everyone up put everyone to shame she literally was like seven feet tall i don't know if she's that tall and she was wearing stilts but even when she was standing in the line waiting to take pictures like head and shoulders above everyone else literally and metaphorically yeah yep i she was the one who really made me realize like how silly everybody else looked because I saw her Diana Ross was right in front of her so I saw her waiting for Diana Ross to finish the carpet so she's just standing there she doesn't have a purse she doesn't have like a million uh you know accessories like a cane she's just like so chill her hands are by her side and she's just really carrying herself so sophisticated I'm like oh my god all these other people look so silly like she's like she's not even trying without someone carrying her dress behind her and giving her hands on each side like she's just comfortable she's moving well and she looks incredible there was also um an actress from shogun i forget her name who wore something extremely similar and everybody's like i can't believe law roach would put zendaya in something i just want to be clear these were two completely different outfits yes they were both white suits and white hats and they were like aesthetically pretty much the same but it was literally that scene in devil wears prada like first of all zendaya's outfit is tailored which is i think also like a huge uh point in her column for the theme like the pants are tailored so perfectly it's the crazy like I've never seen a suit so well tailored it's also giving Meredith Blake yeah no I thought it was fantastic like fantastic top of the heap agreed next we have Hailey Bieber who I think really shocked everyone in the simplicity of the outfit looks like something you wear to dinner with the girls she wore a blazer a black blazer dress uh tights and heels and just beautiful glam like didn't do the most so I was surprised by that but she looks great but it's like not show stopping yeah i mean it's technically a blazer so she's she's in theme right uh i'm just not in a place in my life where i'm gonna say negative things about hailey bieber i just feel like she gets enough of that um so it was not my favorite look of hers it was not super inspiring or different or risky but maybe she just doesn't want to be talked about like it's like enough so she just wanted to wear a safe outfit that's what i that's if i'm reading too deep into this that's what i'm reading perhaps it just feels like if you or I or anyone were invited to the Mechal this was the theming you had to pick something from your closet like this is what you would wear you'd be in theme but you're not going to be like the most exciting like remember when she wore that thong gown like of course that's the best look ever the best look ever so yep I don't know um I don't know I feel like it's actually reflective of like the place she's in in her life she does not want to be spoken about yeah like she had she had to go to the Mechala for work okay um she arrived with Kendall Jenner at the 11th hour at the 11th hour I think Kendall was waiting for her sisters they were taking too long and she was like and Haley was ready because it took her two seconds and they were like okay let's just go and make the carpet and we'll go together and like for Kendall they all work in fashion but Kendall really is like the most fashion-y of the sisters like this is her actual job so I don't think she could like afford to be rude and not show up or miss the carpet um she looks amazing in everything she wears and I don't want to be negative because like this is are it's like a gray suit like it's ugly um but I'm gonna be positive and say this I like that she did something different it's just a shame because you know how I feel about Kendall Jenner at the Met Gala she could actually wear anything any one who's on the worst dress like if you put it on Kendall it would be the best dress like she just has the the face the body and the persona of the Met Gala there are plenty of models who walk around I'm not like put that on Kendall is the one yes everything she and she saves the carpet every year she everything she wears like I just see it differently on her I'm sorry and I'm biased towards her but I feel like the rest of the year I'm pretty critical of her so I'm totally fine like just like propping her up here so again like she looks beautiful and she is beautiful but I agree like it's not something that I'm getting really excited about the color is so gray it's very matronly it's maiden it's like old maiden type of shoes and then her after party look is very much in theme she's going for like a more matronly vibe which i like like it's cool to see people switch up the whole aesthetic and so her after party outfit matches and it was much better it was like this big wide brim hat and like this very audrey hepburn and it was very pretty and i actually like this category for her but this particular look is not my favorite yeah just a bummer yeah bummer bummer especially like we waited all night to see a kardashian we see her and it's bummed out and anybody else finding like the carlisle and the mark hotel pictures like to be annoying yeah i actually was trying to avoid them because i find i like the look better when i see it as it's intended to be seen in movement on the carpet not a photo before like not something blurry i saw kim's because she posted tiktok with north and like it definitely like took away from it ruins it yeah and like i thought i saw people like being really critical of doji because she left the hotel in like an actual tent but you know what I saw her for the first time on the carpet and it's just a better experience I agree it is and I think like some people should start saying at the Holiday Inn there'll be no traffic I think the Met should have like a floor upstairs where people could get ready and that way they can be on time and we don't get spoilers and they cause less traffic and wreak less havoc in the city right because it literally did take people an hour and 20 minutes to get from the mark to 10 blocks to the steps of mechala because there was video of hailey leaving at 720 and her and kendall did not walk until 8 40 it's 10 yeah it's 10 blocks and it's it was chaos in the city last night and it was raining crazy uh next up who do you want to go ayo at a beerie okay um it's pretty it doesn't do anything for me agreed I don't know you oh Anna Wintour like constantly giving us yeah constantly giving us nothing though like love that for her yeah but never like being an embarrassment and she is wearing Louis Vuitton I believe and I love this color so I'm gonna love it now next up I would like to talk about La Roche specifically La Roche going blonde yeah that was a shock it was shocking he looks so different I think his hair is very much like he usually has braids and they're like so I just associate him with them so much.
32:07I was so, like I did a double take. I kind of like it. It's giving Ken. Yeah. I wasn't sure who it was at first. Same. Next, Tyler. Always a sleigh. I love this. I actually haven't seen this yet. I saw her leaving the mark, but I haven't seen it on the carpet. This is perfection. Agreed. The pinstripes. Super on theme. The oversized coat. I think she's carrying a little bifocal. She sleighs. Slay. um Dapper Dan I think was somebody who like is actually one of the inspirations for the actual theme so everybody was really looking forward and this is classic Dapper Dan yeah yeah the night was made for him Kylie Kylie so here's the thing whatever Kylie wears even if it was seriously like a garbage bag I'd say like oh my god garbage bags are in now I have to get one not that this is a garbage bag but it's not her most exciting Met look but the more I look at it like I'm process it the more I like it I saw a lot of pictures that she posted she looks so comfortable and like just sexy and like she did look comfortable skin like she's just like so confident that anything she wears I will love because she makes me love it so I wound up loving this but I will say if someone else wore it I might not say the same if I'm looking at the dress the dress is ugly like sorry I love her she's a queen yes she's comfortable whatever it's an ugly dress but all together the package i mean the face card is unbeatable like her glam is insane the hair the pose the dress is is a no for me i feel like it was really a flop night for the kardashians i hated kim's outfit like i'm so like kim needs to do something different we get it you've got a thin waist and a big ass like every dress is like how can i show off my little waist and my big ass like Like, and my tits.
33:53Like, I'm so over it. Surprise us. Do something different. Well, that's when she did that Balenciaga, like, covered face. Remember? Okay, but that's you doing something different, covering your whole fucking face. Like, I just, I'm so over. Like, she's the most fashionable woman in the world, right? Like, she's the most influential. And it's just, it's so repetitive. Yeah. Also, I feel like she intentionally, she makes every dress, like, unmovable. Like, there's no reason why she shouldn't be able to walk in this dress. Like, it's a dress. It's an off-the-shoulder dress. Like they tailor it to like where she can't breathe, I guess to like make her look smaller.
34:26Yeah. Like there's no reason why she can't walk down the street without being like. And that's why she doesn't embody like the black dandy ism, the coolness, the confidence. Cause she can't even move. Yeah. And it's like this every single time. And like, she can't even like do a different pose. Like she's stuck. Yeah. Yeah. Also, where was Chris? Where was Chris? She would have crushed this thing. Courtney and Chloe are always like, you know, 50, 50 TBD. Well, they won't they. but Chris is like just as guaranteed to show up as Kim yeah and maybe that's why they're all they were all late because like Chris wasn't there to wrangle to get a move on it yeah totally she would never have allowed this to happen yeah I agree this was like too little too late Charlie XCX like so like I'm not like meh does nothing for me I mean aside from the woman herself which you guys know how I feel um yeah like an outfit like this does nothing for me like why bother yeah and I'm not gonna say like it's bad because it's like it's not ugly yeah but it's just like it's not exciting to me Chapel Roan um it's also not working for me like yes she's in theme it's a suit yada yada it's like lots of different textures and colors like it's very much on theme um I guess I didn't see anyone else wearing something like this though she looks like David I think patchwork Yeah, yeah.
35:44Patchwork is very much like a symbol of dandyism. Even if Kendall Jenner wore this, I wouldn't like it. It looks like when you order a Party City disco, like you would say a 70s look and they just give you like a suit with like a bunch of colors on it. Yeah, yeah. Not a favorite of mine. Usher kind of did what men aren't supposed to do. And he just wore like a suit you would wear to someone's wedding. He also was the performer, which I thought was a great choice. Yeah, but he also wore a couple accessories that put him in theme. I kind of love this for a man. I don't. It's so generic. I think it's handsome and that will always win.
36:22You really don't have to be much more than that. Handsomeness wins. Handsomeness wins. Yeah. Brina. Brainer when Sabrina showed up. Oh my God, I was scooped and gagged. I was so excited to see her because I love her, obviously. But like historically, she's not the best dress at the Met Gala. So when she showed up in this with that hair and those legs and those shoes and the glam like she had her people doing her makeup oh my gosh nature healed this is a pharrell look he knew what he was doing he like a bunch of the the people he dressed were not wearing pants and i loved it i think sabrina's the perfect person to not put in pants he she said like because i'm short pharrell was like well then you can't wear pants because you're short and and it's really tailored like to her body perfectly she looks amazing i love no she literally looks so amazing and also what's so great about this outfit it's like it looks like one of her outfits from yes show but just like applied to this theme so she looks like herself but so in theme and so elegant and like honestly she's one of my best dressed her glam was on point and you could tell she knew she crushed it I would have loved to have seen her hair up okay that's that's all i don't feel that way but i respect it okay i'm gonna slide down a little bit to demi more okay who was one of the most creative of the night like she's just she's having such a good year she can't miss yeah and i thought this was such a unique way of doing the theme i didn't see anybody else doing this it could have been stupid but it wasn't wait what did she do it's a tie oh it's like a windsor knot oh cool i miss isn't that cool yeah that's very like katie perry as a hamburger yeah but it's not stupid yeah no it's not as stupid as that but it's like very moschino who wore moschino last night i didn't see jeremy scott yeah me neither um next up doji who was another uh louis vuitton swirly we also we skipped over monica Barbaro who is the girl on purpose yeah Dylan movie and she's friends with Kylie so um so I'm a fan so she gets spoken about I loved her outfit but no she's spoken about because I loved her outfit I thought um it was a perfect execution agreed she looks fabulous perfect dochi unbelievable love so much one of my favorites this is with Tiana Taylor as perfect executions head to toe perfection when I saw her I think the first time I saw her was in her interview and I like just loved her from the waist up and then they showed the shorts and the shoes and the socks and i just love it so much there was i think a lot of pressure on her to like be best dressed because she's so in the moment right now and she's so of the culture and her partnering up with pharrell like perfection and like i don't have one single note no me neither i loved it cardi b was someone who also missed the um oh i didn't even know she went i haven't seen this yet right she missed the carpet.
39:17I also I did wonder if people knew what color the carpet was going to be. It was blue this year. It was also like a pattern. So I think some people's outfits just looked better or worse on the backdrop of the carpet with like the flowers and everything. So she's getting lost in the flowers for me. Yeah. I would need to see more pictures. I don't immediately love it. No, it's on theme, but it's in my opinion, not beautiful. I agree. Kiki Palmer. Oh, she's so great yeah this is like a perfect um execution she was wearing pants and a dress and it all really works together and she could do no wrong I think it was a huge miss to not have her in some capacity doing interviews yeah the interview she gave was so great yeah and she's just like perfect at it oh if you scroll down Anna Sawai that is who wore like a similar thing to Zendaya okay I'm on my way and I just want to say it's not similar no it's not but it's good but i love zendaya's more i love zendaya's more too yeah um okay now if we could scroll to photo 46 i really need to talk about heidi klum okay so heidi klum is on my list for worst dressed she's also on my list of people i was shocked to see in attendance and this is kind of what i was saying and i have nothing against heidi klum she's had an amazing career and i actually met her she's lovely but when i think of the met gala i think of people who are a having like a moment right now the Met Gala is always a moment in time like you'll hear like oh my god Rebecca Black went to the Met Gala like it doesn't make sense but at the time it's supposed to be no you know what I mean like Jessica Simpson it's supposed to be like reflective of what's going on that year so either you have people who are like super like maybe you never even hear from them again but like that was their year James Charles like we were just Lil Nas X went to the Met Gala two years in a row and now it's like you you wouldn't be invited so it's supposed to reflect like the the culture of the moment like the zeitgeist but it's also for people who are you know eternally influential in art and in fashion models it's very upper echelon models and i was just shocked to see heidi klum there and so the fact that she got an invitation i think you know was something she was probably grateful for to show up in this dress is actually disrespectful it is she is she's not my worst dress because someone else is but she's my second worst dress It is so ugly.
41:41It is so boring. It is not in theme. It is not well tailored. The glam does nothing. The jewelry does nothing. Like sometimes like someone shows up at an event and like, like the Mac outline, like they shouldn't have been there, but you know what? They slayed. So you know what? We'll allow it. Yeah. She did not slay. I will not allow it. That they shouldn't have been there because they just fit in perfectly. Yeah. Right. No, she was not blending whatsoever. This is horrible. Yeah. I agree. Horrible. It's giving seriously like prom. Not even. Not even. It's not nice enough for prom. No, it's not.
42:16I don't get it. I don't get it either. Doja Cat? Doja's. Cute. I loved this. Yeah. Totally on theme. Like quirky and different. Like it's not like aesthetically classically beautiful. It's like a little out there. But I love it. Yeah. I like it. Yeah. Oh. oh sofia richie i thought she looked beautiful i didn't know she was going i didn't see her on the stream did she showed up late no she was perfectly on time she was on the stream she was on the stream i mean i guess i did miss a little bit of the stream i had to skip some stuff i don't know where she's going i love i love the look i don't know where she's going it's not in theme she toggles between being a celebrity invited to the mechella and being like a rich lady just invited to the mechella to support i'm sure she like purchases art yeah yeah so like on all those people who go who are like actually the foundation members like they just wear a beautiful dress maybe it has a bow on it to celebrate a bow tie they just wear like a black tie a nod to the theme but they're just wearing like a black tie gown that they might have gotten off the rack so she's a little bit in both worlds and i think jackie she's a full-blown celebrity like please she has to be in theme no but she's just like showing up as a rich lady now and i think i first of all you're not going to catch me saying a bad word about her but i actually have seen her wear some dresses is where I'm like, uh, it doesn't excite me and I don't love it.
43:34I actually love this. And I think the bow ties are a nod to the dandyism. I think she looks beautiful. I think she's also like a very famous bride. So wearing a bridal look. That's what I was thinking. Wearing a bridal look like is Congress for her. Smart. And we haven't seen this much of her since she has become a mom. And I think all in all, like seriously, no notes. And I know that other people might say it's boring. It's not in theme. No notes for me. No, I don't think it's boring. It's not in theme. but it's absolutely gorgeous and i agree it's very bridal it's tailored and it's bow tied two themes two out of 12 it's a stretch two out of wait and there's two bows three yeah one on one on the bum one on the back nicole scherzinger is like the perfect example of how to do this theme well i thought this was kim when i was watching her on the stream i was like it looks like Kim is it Kim I wish um and if Kim had worn this that would have been a lot more exciting and she does look great and Nicole Scherzinger is the perfect example of like maybe in years past you would have been like Nicole Scherzinger's at the Met Gala but like this year she's on Broadway she's the toast of the town she just was nominated for a Tony like she's the perfect person to have been invited but like otherwise like I felt like the guest list was not and first of all where the fuck were the influencers not one except and i don't know where he is on this list kabi lame i thought he looked amazing who was on my list i haven't decided yet was on my list for best dressed uh for the men overall oh wow no i thought he looked so great i didn't realize it was kabi lame who i read about um last week he's technically a tiktoker i'm so glad that i did he looked so handsome but besides him like there was not one person representing the internet emma chamberlain no longer counts i think james charles ruined it for everyone no i'm sorry ever since james charles was many years ago and that was because youtube was a huge sponsor so it wasn't just james charles nikki tutorials was there jackie aina was there like it was a big night for the influencers but ever since then like there are a few hand-picked addison charlie and dixie there are a few people who get like hand-picked from the gutters of the internet and i like it i like that they do that not a ton but like so were you looking for new faces or like the usual influencers who go i was looking for who's reflective of 2025 i was looking for alex earl so new faces because also like yeah where were addison and churls but where were the new influencers who would be going i do think nara and lucky blue should have gone should have been there because he's also a model he's a fashion girly and he she is like a she does a bunch of work with tori birch i'm surprised tori merchant dresser like she just did a fendi campaign i'm shocked yeah lana del rey i think she looks lovely sweet and pargy i've been enjoying her recently yeah no she's she looks good yeah i like that you did good oh sydney sweeney so sydney sweeney to me is a perfect example of someone who like didn't like you know break mind blowing but like looks really beautiful there's a nod to the theme and she's just like having a nice night and go on what is the nod to the theme um she mentioned it in her in her interview I can't remember maybe sparkles like maybe sparkles are one of the temples I flower brooch on the chest I think that Sydney Sweeney's red carpet looks like the bar is so low for her because she consistently lets us down like she she does not have good red carpet style so when I saw this I'm like oh she looks really pretty but then the more I analyze it I'm like like this is not a good look it's not really in theme at all it's very mature like this is the type of dress an older woman wears to sort of cover her arms like it's it's matronly and it's not good but for Cindy Sweeney it is it's like so neutral and like totally fine that's how I felt I don't like it I felt like she's like the perfect example of like the the theme done wrong this year which is actually not bad at all correct next Next.
47:45Oh, Miranda Kerr. I'm scrolling a little bit. I hadn't seen her. I like Miranda Kerr's outfit. You can see that? Yeah, I follow her on TikTok, so I had seen it. I like that a lot. It's like a deconstructed tuxedo. I'm scrolling just a bit because. There's a lot of. Oh, Taraji B. Henson. This is actually the first time I'm seeing her. I actually just saw her recently for the first time too. Yeah. I feel like it's like a little much. Like a little much of everything. She's got the hat. She's got the cane. She's got the suit. She's got the bow. It's just like, I kind of need her to take one thing off.
48:11yeah it's like a little too i know it's a costume gala but like it's a little too costume party city like not fashion-y as much like it's what do you think continue sorry continue no i'm not yes no no agreed it's it's costuming but even though it's a costume gala like yeah you still can't look at taylor was like like is doing all the same things here but it didn't look like costuming i wouldn't have said that the outfit is wearing Taraji P. Henson yeah but even if someone else had worn it like it's a little there's just too much of it I don't know what the difference is but there's a difference what did you think about Priyanka and Nick Jonas I was happy to see them because like me too I felt like they were exciting and we didn't get that many exciting couples this year like yeah some of the people who always come with their spouse even like Haley Bieber like there was no Justin Bieber we didn't get a lot of couples we didn't get new couples we obviously didn't get Alex and Braxton we didn't get Taylor didn't Travis we didn't get Kylie and Timothy so like to see these two who like come from different worlds and are in a relationship like was actually very exciting they just didn't look like a couple like their outfits weren't cohesive they didn't like even the shades of white yeah so mismatched and you know what like if I block him out and just look at her I actually looks amazing her outfit agree she looks amazing out I like his outfit yeah they just don't look like they go together yeah she does look really amazing and i was glad to see a couple i like we didn't get a lot of couples we usually get more no you're right you're right we didn't get a lot of couples and like where were brooklyn and nicola like seriously i'm so mad at them for whatever they're doing with their lives right now right where were brooklyn and nicola i don't know but like i was noticing on the carpet they're amazing they always look amazing together yeah you're right um can you scroll down to photo 88 i think we need to talk about janelle mona who like i think every year at the Met Gala um crushes someone we need to wait and see and given the theme and that's like I feel like her genuine style and aesthetic already yeah she crushed yeah she's a shoe-in for this theme and then also this jacket this two-dimensional jacket was like removable and then she had another outfit on under that was also perfect like nailed it perfect perfect but the bar is actually really high for as much as you think like oh she could do this in her sleep like that person you have a higher expectations for agreed uh 94 quinta brunson
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50:34quinta oh there's nothing wrong with it there's nothing wrong with it i just it's reminding me of that other person um who i hadn't tyla tyla who i hadn't seen yet it's like similar but i like that better yeah and i don't know it's fine yeah it's fine shocked to see rejee jean paul he is also on my list in case you're wondering um his last name is page but i know to you it'll always be paul oh my god i literally didn't even know that um if you were wondering i actually did write a list i'm at and i wrote i wrote his last name was paul on my list um this is my list of people i was shocked to see in attendance like that i didn't feel we're worthy of invites this year rege jean page heidi klum ashley graham lizzo that's my list no protest for me like he looks nice he's handsome what the hell is he doing there is he still a working actor uh i don't know how things are going for him okay i think that says it all right let's let's go to 98 amelia gray let's go to 98 i think um so if it wasn't a black dandy theme i would assume she was paying homage to gray gardens and madonna she looks nuts i'm sorry i just want to say when she walked out and i watched her on the stream and she has all the confidence in the world boom boom hitting the poses there wasn't a close-up on the details of the outfit i was like oh i'm interested by this gabriette looks amazing and now that i've seen photos of it and i see like the bloomers and the and everything together like that i see the details of it i don't like it as much as i did when she was in motion it's bad i'm sorry that's a nice roundabout way of you saying it is bad it is but for some reason like it's it's bad but a bit awe-inspiring it's bad you know like it's not bad like Heidi Klum bad right right because at least she tried yeah and she was working it took me a while to realize it was ugly you know I'm scrolling far down because like there's a bunch of people here I don't know or I don't feel are worth discussing I also want to say I saw Rachel Brosnahan she's 99 she was right after Amelia did you see her purple dress in the yeah and like I had the thought like I would love to see Kim in something like that.
52:56You know? I would love to see Kim in literally something, anything else. Because this is a beautiful purple dress. I scroll down quite significantly to 123 because we do need to talk about Laura Harrier. Everyone's talking about her. Oh yeah, always best dressed. Always best dressed. Like I seriously don't know what she's famous for because I know her just for like slaying red carpets. But like how does she get invited to the red carpet? Is she an actress? She is an actress. Yeah, wasn't she in that show that we liked? I just feel like she's more famous for her style. Yes, definitely. She's a fashion girly.
53:28She slays. I love, love, love what she wore. You know who also wasn't there that has been invited the past few years? And I was wondering if they were going to be there, but I think their invites have run out. The Riverdale kids. I literally knew you were going to say that. I saw a video of celebrities who have been banned from the Met Gala. And it's all speculatory. but um it's widely believed that lily reinhardt is not allowed back because you know she went and then she like trashed it trashed it and kim and like how everybody's too skinny like she made it about like her body image issues oh i forgot about that but i'm thinking like cammy mendez yeah jughead mendez cammy mendez has been invited for the last couple of years not as a riverdale kid she's like an armani ambassador she's actually very fashiony um but yes the others cole sprouse like their time has run out sorry like it's over dylan and Barbara where is Dylan and Barbara like that's what's just so exciting and we didn't get you're right like that um you think Cammie Mendes's time has run out was that what you just said no the Riverdale crew like if they haven't done Cammie got an extension I bet but Cammie was invited this year like she got an extension because she's very in the fashion space okay
54:42lizzo meh like really not inspiring yeah but not bad not ugly not not in theme yeah i well i don't know what word to use for like someone like that where it's like i don't love it's fine i don't hate yeah fine neutral yeah neutral oh my god there were so many people there and his new wife they look so great and they look like like happy and excited to be there you know so many people are so jaded they've been a million times it's true it's really true you know who was also a first timer who earned his spot shaboozy oh yeah he hasn't come up on our list yet but he was someone i wanted to talk about because he's also another person where i would have looked to him for this particular theme he's a very very well-dressed man outside of like just wearing a suit you know he always adds color and fun and i thought his outfit was kind of a departure from what his usual style is but I really liked it I really liked it too and I was very excited that he was there I hope he fell in love with someone I hope it was Sabrina okay I scrolled down a lot your favorites at number 147 Adrian Brody and Georgina Chapman so they are like wealthy people who get invited to the gala at this point you know yeah yeah well she's also like a designer so she doesn't have to like do the most yeah she looks gray but she's just wearing like a beautiful gown and he looks complimentary to her um scroll down to patrick schwarzenegger he's on my list for worst i know he is i'm sorry what the hell is this i know i feel like don't you feel like maybe he got like bamboozled by a designer and like couldn't say anything so he's like he's obviously not new to fame or hollywood but he's new to this level right um and at some point like you are just a muse a model a chair for a designer to fill and you don't have notes it's not a collaborative process and I think as a man also who probably doesn't have really strong feelings about fashion it's hard to speak up so he just wears what comes in the garment bag and this is fucking ugly yeah I agree and I feel like also he's probably used to just dressing like stereotypical hetero male and so like he just put on whatever they send and he He didn't even know if it was bad or not.
56:51He's like, I'm just going to the Met Gala and this is what I'm wearing. Yeah. Take it or leave it. Someone who's not popping up for me yet, but I do want to talk about is Mindy Kaling. I didn't see her. I thought she looked amazing. She looked amazing. Flawless execution. 10 out of 10, no notes. Okay. Another eligible worst dress is number 157, Bebe Rexha. I hadn't seen her yet. Did you see her on the stream? No, not on the stream. I saw pictures of it this morning. this is quite terrible yeah and she i might need to add her to my list of people i'm shocked were invited yeah yeah it's no rhyme or reason um i'm scrolling i'm scrolling oh victoria was there you know she has such a hard time being so beautiful right that's leo's girlfriend leo was not there and her look like was like uh you saw it was like the jacket and then turned to the dress doing a big reveal and just to put on a black dress with a black jacket like these reveals people were looking so stupid the reveals were stupid it's stupider on a man um and the fact that her jacket like stayed with her dress it wasn't like a discard that was like when kylie wore that for carl lagerfeld it was like her her dress was a jacket and then it turned into her train i liked it and and vittoria is beautiful so there are a lot of people remaining whom like are famous and whatever but their outfits like don't need to be discussed diana ross um i loved like it was this big show-stopping carpet moment she's allowed it's not stupid when diana ross does it no and i think um she was very on theme she like is the theme and correct she was great so she deserved that moment miley like seriously and when she was asked about her outfit and like when that classic question from lala like when you heard about the theme what were you most excited about she was like i was excited to see everybody else interpret it because she didn't interpret it like in any way in a little bit i mean she looks good she's not so off she doesn't look bad but she is off like i don't even know where she's going you want to say the theme if she's been not in theme or this or that like you also have to talk about that whoever dressed her like the designer or the stylist and it's it's a collaborative thing so i hate to like put it all on one person and be like no of course fucked up like who dressed heidi klum like we should definitely be dragging them as well yeah now i think the perfect place to end i need you to pick up because i finally made it to my worst dress i need you to scroll down to number 193 okay wait give me a minute before you tell everyone who it is keep scrolling you guys it is so important that we discuss the one wait wait wait no i'm not there one and if you're like scrolling with us then you also need to get there okay i'm almost there i finally i literally was going until i is killing me 190
59:48gail king are you fucking kidding me yeah this is such a bad first of all the dress does not fit her it is hanging off of her neck so it's automatically out of theme because it's not tailored but it is of suit-like inspiration. It is so ugly. It is so ill-fitting. But we need to know who made it. Like, you definitely need to put the onus on the designer, too. And I think, like, I expect a lot from Gayle King, and she kind of got away with murder after Blue Origins. Like, she owes Katy Perry her life, and she really needed to be a little bit more under the radar. She got away with the murder of Katy Perry.
1:00:28Yeah. And she needed to be a little bit more under the radar, because now we're like remembering again. And she is the perfect person to be invited to this affair, right? She's a New York icon, CBS This Morning. She's so famous, so well-respected, important figure in black culture. And this is what you wear? Uh-uh, worse dressed. That is my official decree. Heidi Klum was almost there, but I'm sorry. Like Heidi Klum's dress was just like boring, bland and a little ugly. This dress was crazy. Yeah, yeah. It can't really be worst dress. It's just like a strapless black dress. Yeah. Okay, great. Do you want to do best and worst?
1:01:09Well, I just did worst if you'd like to do your worst. My worst has been. I'm cracking up. I just have to be consistent year after year. By the way, I will not protest. I love that. And by the way, I'm not complaining at all. Like, I'm actually, thank you, Anna. But where was he this year? Isn't he on Broadway right now? No, he's actually like very low key right now. Oh, okay, cool. Well, we were blessed. Big time. So your worst is? Ben Platt. My best. Oh, we didn't talk about her. Honorable mention, because I have a top three. Honorable mention to Joey King. She looked fab. She did look fab. She's not my best dress, but she was up there.
1:01:49I have a top four. I know it's so crazy. I had a top three. I think it's so crazy, but I think my best dress is going to be Coby Lame. Maybe because I really wasn't expecting it, and it was so different. Like, no, but everybody like that's what we were saying with Quinta Brunson. Like at some point, the look started to get lumped together because everybody sort of looked the same. I didn't see anybody doing what Kabi was doing. If you didn't see, he had like all these different stopwatches and like what are they called? Back in the day, you used to like pull out like your clock. Pocket watch? Yeah, pocket watch.
1:02:20Thank you. And they were like, it was just really different and cool. Thank you. Please stop. I can't breathe. It was so different and he represented the internet and you know what? I think I'm going to give it to him. I love that for you. Let me tell you my top four and then maybe we can cobble together a one. Narrow it down. Zendaya, of course. Yeah, she was there for me too. Jenny from Blackpink. She was wearing Chanel and I thought she looked incredible. I'm surprised more people weren't dressed in the same way that she was because she was a total textbook interpretation of the theme. Oh my God, she looked so beautiful.
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1:08:03The internet is going crazy over Lisa's panties. Also, we forgot to talk about how Lisa was there from Blackpink and White Lotus. And three out of the four Blackpink ladies were - Rose, Jenny, and Lisa. And it's like, who is even the fourth? She's not doing a solo career, but Blackpink is going on tour. Yeah, I saw. I like that Jenny song. Like Jenny. Do you know that one? Like Jenny? Yeah, like Jenny. I need to make a song. Like Turdy. I love that whole, I want my nails done like Turdy. yeah no they're so cute they all looked amazing last night and i was glad for them because they all had each other inside i don't think they know that many people except lisa's white lotus co-stars were there patrick and walton and amy lou lisa's probably like like um the leader of the black pink group just being like oh this is my friend amy and patrick yeah um but the internet's going crazy over her panties because it looks like rosa's face is stitched into the garment so It's literally on her clitoris.
1:08:56Like it's right there. There's a bunch of faces on the undies of Lisa. On the whole outfit, by the way. Also on her bustier. She's wearing undies and tights, Louis Vuitton tights. And according to Vogue UK, her look features embroidered portraits by black artist Henry Taylor transforming fashion into a tribute to black art and culture. So this was a collaboration. She was also dressed by Pharrell, right? With Louis Vuitton and Henry Taylor. now obviously the concept of having rosa parks on your labia is fucking crazy and if it were any other circumstance i might rip this person to filth but one like this was obviously very well thought out right like pharrell is deeply involved in the met gala and like it was approved by him so therefore it's approved by me two she seems like the type of person she's getting dressed like she might be doesn't have like notes like she's just wearing especially rosa parks is like an American icon she's not from America so like she's just following Pharrell and the designers leads and she's not going to be like is it weird that we have this lady on my vagina she just is doing what she's told yeah um and if Pharrell isn't like mad about it I don't know I'm not mad about it no I'm not mad about it either it does look like it's not a pair of underwear but it is a leotard that because if it's on the top and it's on the bottom and she's wearing a jacket then she's not wearing Rosa Parks underwear and there also seems to be other people but I just want to say like the idea that she's being called out for Rosa Parks underwear is really funny but I don't think she did anything wrong I think she's wearing what she was told to wear and right that nobody else had an issue with it and I actually found it to be really beautiful I think overall she looks really great but yeah if you want to zoom in on her crotch and see Rosa Parks it's a crazy thing but overall when you take a step back that's not what was happening no and if you look at the embroidery all over the outfit it's actually really beautiful like these faces embroidered into a lace I've never seen that before so I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say that like I think this is okay I think it's okay too I think it's like just like funny and unfortunate the way people are zooming in on her tushy and like pointing right parks because it's also all over but there's also other people it's not just Rosa yeah yeah she's obviously the most recognizable fudge right so um just funny and I hope that um I hope she's not really getting canceled like it's it was it's it's beautiful yeah it is next story some news that came out last night i don't know if it has anything to do with the met gala but kim kardashian has now hired a new stylist yes every couple of years she parts with her stylist it's like always a big deal remember monica rose was monica a stylist was like actually the family stylist and that was bigger news because there was like drama they like made it seem like monica was stealing from them and we never got like closure on that that's like one of my Roman empires um but Dani her stylist who's like on the show all the time and they like always yeah tagging each other on Instagram I guess Dani's out new guy in new guy in Dani's been with her for a while though because I think Dani used to work with Kanye and then started working with Kim while they were married and then just like stayed with Kim and so that's why the looks have always been pretty consistent since even she was like dressed by Kanye and then by Danny they both work with like Balenciaga and Yeezy and everything so it's that whole vibe but I guess Kim's officially over it which I'm very grateful for because it's time for something new we've been saying like every time she wears something it's just so tired especially when it's Balenciaga and it's ugly you know like if you want to wear something ugly that's Chanel okay I'm open right I'm not like so against but ugly and Balenciaga what's the point it's just so crazy because it's like Kim and her style Kim style Kim style Kim style Kim style and Kim has not had good style like I don't care who's behind it even with Kanye like he she's not had good style for a while and I feel like like there was the sweatpants era and yes it was influential and people loved it but like I don't know I'm like why is she the style maven I don't feel like I've seen anything that she's worn in seriously five years and been like oh I need that yeah maybe she's or that's beautiful as well i wonder what the new style will be i mean it's just so unoriginal like the whole body thing like not to be such a grandma maybe it's just because i'm jealous because i've never been fatter but like i'm just so over it like tight waist body con tits out for the boys it's like sure but like why don't you try a moomoo like something yeah i'm curious to see what the new style will be i hope that it's i feel like she's still going to be avant-garde and not like something that's like oh that's just simple and beautiful um but I think it's time for a change change is good a thousand percent but I I liked Dani I hope she goes on to style other people because I think there are other people who would like work really well in that vibe but just like it's time for Kim to move on and Kim has hired Rihanna stylist and they had worked together on this like cover photo shoot for a magazine I'd never heard of and a cover I never saw and I guess they really hit it off and she really like loved the work that was done so that was the beginning of their beautiful new friendship.
1:13:48So I wonder who was the stylist on Met Gala. Just curious. Because also she had an after-party look that was like a short version of what she wore. Like it was the same. Yeah. Hailey Bieber's after-party look was really sweet too. I liked it. Imagine if she showed up on the red carpet. Like that is so out of theme, but she would look amazing. Yeah. And then she also had another dress in between that she should have worn to the Met Gala. Hmm. It was like, it had like a collared shirt, like a part of it. It was just like a little bit more on theme and it was like the same level of blazer as the other one.
1:14:16Cute. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure we'll be getting a lot of after-party stuff like tomorrow as the parties are probably winding down just now. And our next story, if you were wondering where Timothee Chalamet was at the Met Gala. I was. The Nick game. Oh, yeah, I watched it. Timothee Chalamet. It's such a busy night. Like, between Met Gala. I had to watch the Met Gala on the computer on my lap while the Nick game was on the TV. And the Brunson Boys. Because Ben was watching in the other room, and I wanted to be together. I'm like, all right, I'll be a martyr. I'll watch the Met Gala. It was like the end.
1:14:46I was getting so bored on the live stream. It never fucking ended. Same, especially when I realized I wasn't even going to see my faves. Right. But Timothy had a pretty good reason to let Kylie fly solo at the Met Gala. His team was playing an important playoff game and he had to watch. And they actually won, so he missed for something. The actor, who's a big Knicks fan, was nowhere to be found at the Met Gala. Instead, he was tuning in to watch the Knicks play the Celtics in game one of their series. Oh, he was just watching? He didn't even go to Boston? Yeah, he posted on his story a picture of the...
1:15:15Which is actually really crazy. And then he said, shitting myself, this game is insane. He sounds like Ben. Jackie, it was insane. And then he said, shaking, what a win. Literally Ben. He needs to join Ransom Boys. He does. They were being so dramatic. And I know I told you I would keep you updated on what's going on with Jordan Woods' boyfriend. Jackie, nobody on the planet played worse sports than her boyfriend last night. And he, like, wouldn't just. Sometimes it's not your night, you know. And you have to acknowledge that and just, like, pass the ball to OG. Because it was OG's night, you know.
1:15:42and he just like kept trying to make fetch happen and making it worse and then we'd like take him out and put him back in and like he just needed to be a support like he's been the star for like a couple of games so he was getting used to that sort of treatment but listen it's not your night and you have to pass it to brunson ben wanted to kill jordan woods's boyfriend last night like he was so bad like really really bad ultimately the team pulled it off it was a crazy game like the knicks are so the underdog in this series i was actually really happy for ben like he was for you You should have seen him.
1:16:11He was actually being so crazy. That's really crazy. I wonder if Timothy partied with Kylie at the after parties because he was probably in a celebratory mood. They're both in New York. Right. The game ended at like 930, 945. And Timothy was definitely in New York. So they probably spent the night together. And then the next games three and four are Monday and Saturday at the Garden. Do you think Kylie and Timothy will go? I think Timothy will go. Tim has been. But they went to that Quartzite game. At the Lakers. He's not even a Laker fan. What the hell was that? Because they probably were looking for it.
1:16:40a fun thing to do activity and he probably likes basketball yeah i would love to see them the first game at the garden is on saturday you should go courtside next i actually told i actually told ben i said you should go to the game and like don't worry about me because jack is in town like i'm good oh wait i could go oh let's go together courtside courtside she's not by the way ben keeps sending me links he's like we should go and i'm like i said if you find like a part you say I'm huge right now. I can't sit in a tiny little seat. Like, I need a suite. I need something pargy. I'm sorry. He said, if you find, I'm like, you're like a finagler.
1:17:16If you find something pargy, I will go. He's sending me step-up seats. He's like, it's actually an amazing deal,$14 ,000 for a ticket. Like, I can't with him. No, we need someone to let us in their suite. I agree that you can't sit on a folding chair court side. Thank you. But if someone will let us in their suite, and we also can't pay$14 ,000, you know. I'm proud of you for saying that, because I thought you were going to say, that's a good deal. You should take it. no I'm not passionate about oh like sports for rascal flats that's a good deal you should take it you know what we actually got a lot of mixed um responses on the crib theory yesterday I thought everyone was going to be on my side like Jackie's crazy no they were like you know what like for your first baby like I'm getting the crib that I want so it's not a perfect theory it's not a perfect but I just think it goes to show and it was a good exercise because like neither one of this is crazy like like it's not crazy that i would still buy the crib that no it's not that is the one that i want um but it's not crazy that you wouldn't correct so it's a very much like agree to disagree respectfully that's so us if anybody wants to listen to their suite saturday and monday night at the garden we will think about coming honestly yeah i was gonna say i was gonna say honestly honestly i'm not sure yeah me neither like i'm not in the mood to like mingle unless you want to give me your sweet like i'm sorry i don't want to like talk to other people okay or what if they invite us but they like know we're not feeling chatty i love it okay so just think about it you you would love it and you know what um i'm gonna call it on the stories i think like doing all met adjacent that was four technically but it's an hour 20 like do we even have time for deer toasters by the way i decided long ago that Dear Toasters is getting pushed to tomorrow.
1:18:56I promise we will do it tomorrow. Okay. To the DTQ, I know what you're going to say. Like, again, you guys, I'm sitting in the chair for 90 minutes. Are you crazy? I'm not okay. My back is killing me. Like, I have to move every hour. Support women. But I heard your cries. It will be done this week. We're not skipping it this week. It's just not getting done today. I'm sorry. If you're looking for someone to blame, her name is Anna Wintour. A hundred percent. And she works at Conde Nast. Go protest outside her office building. Go. Protest peacefully. it was a great mechala honestly i feel like years past have definitely been disappointing i had i i think overall my biggest disappointment was like just the elk of people like not only were so many missing from the red carpet but i saw a bunch of losers yeah i agree star power wasn't it kind of reminded me of that covid one that took place in september where it was like only the vaccinated or the people who were lying or who had fake vaccination cards that was like a blind item that was going around like a list of celebrities who made fake because celebs are like notoriously anti-vax they're very like non-talks like and there was a like a rumor about a couple of i'm not gonna say who a couple of celebrities who had fake vaccination cards yeah i actually found my covid vaccine card the other day because i'm sweeping and what you do with it you have to put in a time capsule i kept it of course even though like i don't need it i'm like this is not like the sweeper but you can't like that's just like a piece of her history no it's still not like your kids one day it was killing me because like i should have thrown it out but me and Ben's like they were brand new you used to need them to get in places like some people had them laminated I'm surprised I didn't because I was going out so hard back then like I was actually really crazy to see like maybe you'll go somewhere and they're like where's your vax card I don't think so you never know I wouldn't throw no you never know it's true I have a photo I have a photo of it too which is like how I used to get into clubs and stuff you know like you would just I wasn't bringing it yeah so DTQ we'll see you tomorrow thank you so much I don't even have time to do the wrap up, you guys.
1:20:52My back is broken. I think that's so fair. We love you so much. We'll see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye.
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