Gang Gang Pargy Gang: Tuesday, October 14th, 2025

11:50Jackie Oshry:You're obese. I'm obese. Yeah, that's such, that's like what a liar says. Like, of course I'm obese.

11:57Claudia Oshry:Might as well have circles. You're pregnant. Might as well have circles pregnant.

12:00Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no. They really need to do better, like with the vernacular.

12:05Claudia Oshry:Yeah, so that was just like a little destabilizing.

12:09Jackie Oshry:I'm so sorry that that happened to you. Yeah. I'm validating you. That is wrong. Yeah, so I'm just like seeking stability.

12:18Claudia Oshry:just when like I thought I was like crushing it. Yeah.

12:22Jackie Oshry:I do want to say you look amazing. I have thought that now for many weeks that you just are crushing it. So don't listen to what those what the hell do those doctors know anyway? Like haters are my motivators. Doctors are such haters. You feel that?

12:38Claudia Oshry:I do. But like I so respect them because like they operate at such a high level. No, and like under a series of facts, you know?

12:48Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it's like we very much operate in the field of feelings and they very much exist within the realm of straight facts. Like the numbers are what they are. You're fat. You're big.

13:01Claudia Oshry:And your dogs are gay.

13:04Jackie Oshry:Your dogs are gay. Now we do have a great show for everyone today. Stories are aplenty because we had the three-day weekend. And it's Tuesday, which means DTQ, Deer Toasters community, is going to be fed this evening.

13:17Claudia Oshry:Also, if you want to be extra fed and be obese, Deer Toasters community. Oh, yeah. Zach and I recorded a Deer Toasters Patreon episode together, like relationship-themed Deer Toasters. It's amazing. It comes out on Patreon this week. As soon as I feel the itch, like people are itching for it, I'll drop it. Yes, itch, itch. It was honestly so funny. We had a blast. Like, we should give advice more often. We were hysterical.

13:41Jackie Oshry:And how is the state of your marriage after recording an episode with your husband? Because I know how difficult that can be on a family.

13:48Claudia Oshry:Never better, which is so crazy. It's like I do dread recording with him because, but sometimes, you know, you've got to. But it can be very stressful, especially when, like, I'm in charge and your microphone is moving. And, like, you're not, you're, like, you're responding with silence. It's difficult. Or you're responding with a nod. Like, you know what I mean? No, but we were really connected.

14:10Jackie Oshry:oh that's really connect three connected and we were just like being so funny like a lot of like

14:14Claudia Oshry:personal really funny facts yeah because like people were writing in about stuff that's like so real yeah so real so that's coming up on patreon claudia's vlogs on patreon there's just plenty plenty content plenty to chew on for a fatty for a fatty such as yourself

14:37Claudia Oshry:okay well let's get into everything because we have a lot we've bitten off a lot and now we need to clearly without further ado to do here are the fast life stories that you to do need to know

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19:26Claudia Oshry:check out the chocolate chip cookie granola like seriously check it out okay that's all i'm gonna say and that's all that needs to be said our first story is some sad news diane oh my god diane keaton famed for roles in father of the bride first wives club and more dies at the age of 79 so over the weekend it was announced that diane keaton passed away uh her rep said there are no further details available at this time and her family has asked for privacy in this moment of great sadness the lafd confirmed to people that they responded to her home at 8 0 8 a.m local time and transported a 79-year-old woman to the hospital.

20:04Jackie Oshry:Like, I didn't know we had to be on the lookout for Diane Keaton. What we're just talking about, like older celebrities, like the Betty White effect, where we're just like sort of waiting, hoping, wishing, praying. Diane Keaton wasn't on my list. Because I guess in like a technical sense, she's 79. She's like eternally 57, you know? Yeah, and she had such a youthful spirit. She had such a youthful spirit. Even though it's really crazy when you look at her breadth of work and the things she's been in. because like yeah I guess she is or was 79 like she was in the godfather and she was so young yeah she was in like all those woody allen movies she was so young she has had such it's great like what do you think is the best diane keaton movie oh my gosh what I would say is not what you know

20:46Claudia Oshry:the world the world would say but my favorite diane keaton movie

20:54Jackie Oshry:let me think what's yours mama said there'd be days like this there'd be days like this mama mama said mama said because i said so with mandy moore and piper paraboe and lauren graham and gabriel macht from suits no best fucking movie morning glory oh my god wait that just Which made me extra sad. Me too. Oh my God. I didn't realize like for those who don't know, the reason Jackie and I are sitting here today is because of the movie Morning Glory. I forgot. And she's hilarious. We're always quoting her in that one line. And today on the show, we've got Celine Dion's personal chef. Oh my God. Wait, that's devastating.

21:36Jackie Oshry:One thing about Diane, she had fucking taste. She had a good picker. Like she knew what to pick. Bangers. When it came to roles. Yeah.

21:42Claudia Oshry:Other people might know her from Father of the Bride, the Godfather. something's gotta give book club first wives club which Claudia and I like did try to get into late in life and it was just not holding up I have a lot of negative thoughts and feelings about first

21:56Jackie Oshry:wives clubs and then like the way people talk and treat that movie but given you know respect for

22:01Claudia Oshry:the deceased I won't it's not the time it's not it's not the time for the dragging of first wives club I hope you understand but will you let me know when it is the time because I'm ready next time that movie comes up on the show okay could be tomorrow but it cannot be today no I'm devastated

22:16Jackie Oshry:I really am. It's hard to like compare her to anyone. Somebody who really had such an impact on like a many generations of women. I feel like, you know, everyone's mom has the Diane Keaton movie that they love. And then everyone, every millennial has one. Nancy Byers wrote such a lovely tribute because of course something's got to give us up there for the best Diane Keaton movie.

22:40Jackie Oshry:I was shocked.

22:41Claudia Oshry:Yeah, me too. Shocked and saddened.

22:44Jackie Oshry:do you remember when kyle richards accused her of like stealing her mother's ring no that was a crazy story you don't remember that no so like oh yeah i think when kyle's house got robbed she lost like this beloved ring that belonged to kyle richards mother and then like two years later diane keaton posted a picture of like her hands on instagram and she was wearing like a thousand rings and kyle richards was like diane keaton that's my mother's ring and diane keaton was like what the fuck are you talking about i bought it like a flea market it was like this kind of weird well maybe she could have bought the stolen ring no dan keen was like i've had this ring for 30 years oh and i don't think dan keaton appreciated like the insinuation that she was a thief that's weird it was one of those like very strange celebrity crossover moments i didn't even recall it i don't want to harp on this too much because this short show is like a beacon of light and positivity but i'm really sad and i i didn't know she was struggling with any sort of health issues and she will go down in history as one of the greatest actresses of our time and i feel like she actually i know this is gonna sound crazy i feel like she doesn't get enough credit even though she's like the most beloved because everybody's always like you know meryl streep like jackie jackie i did not want to bring meryl streep into this yeah because we don't have to like break down another woman like

24:01Claudia Oshry:but I just for comparison sake like we do yes Diane doesn't get her flowers because she's like constantly overshadowed by more serious older actresses as well like people think that you just have to be so serious in order to be respected like Diane Keaton was keeping it fun and keeping it light and I just feel like she didn't get what the respect she deserved but I feel like in this moment we're all coming together and realizing like Diane Keaton did great things for this world

24:26Jackie Oshry:Have you ever seen the movie Baby Boom? I think I have. It's an amazing Diane Keaton movie that I watched so randomly a couple of years ago. I don't know if it's like her biggest movie. And I think it was just at a time like after The Godfather when she was super young and she was just like making movies after movie and it hit after hit. And it's this great movie about this like working gal. It's actually very relevant. Working gal who finds herself pregnant. And she's like, oh my God, what am I going to do? And I don't want to spoil it. And I also don't remember, but I remember being deeply moved by it.

24:54Jackie Oshry:I remember like that I've watched it and I liked it.

24:57Claudia Oshry:It's a great film. Yeah. So take the time to watch a Diane Keaton film. Maybe it's Morning Glory, but I would have felt like remiss to not make it a story. I know we don't typically harp on like slept deaths, but like I feel like she needed a moment.

25:12Jackie Oshry:She needed a moment. And I very rarely utter these three words in a serious sense. But as a woman, Diane Keaton is important.

25:21Claudia Oshry:oh I thought you were gonna say these three words rest in peace well of course I want her to rest in peace but we don't usually I prefer to say rip we don't usually say it in a serious sense I thought for sure that's what you were about to say oh I could see how that would be incredibly

25:37Jackie Oshry:misleading I apologize but no I was saying as a woman and then what did you say after that like Diane Keaton was important to us she was a big figure she will be missed yeah she will be

25:51Claudia Oshry:are you ready for our next story Taylor Swift is bringing six episode eras tour documentary and final show concert film to Disney plus in December so Lurd announced that she had an announcement and then the announcement was that she has a six-part docuseries about the eras tour called Taylor Swift the eras tour the end of an era that will premiere on Disney plus on December 12th accompanied by the simultaneous release of a new concert film Taylor Swift the eras tour the era show which was shot at her tour finale in vancouver bc this is significant because this will include the tortured poets department department of the show whereas the heiress tour version that's right now on disney plus does not include ttbd and the six part jackie the six part docuseries the first two episodes will come out on december 12th and then the other ones will come out at a

26:41Jackie Oshry:later date oh i didn't even know that thank you um yes so when i saw taylor was releasing like an announcement on gma i'm not gonna lie i did not get excited like queen loves to be like i have an announcement another cd shiny bug i'm yeah i don't know if you could tell but i'm like

26:55Claudia Oshry:pretty scarred by shiny bug because i was like this summer riding that high of new heights to lowest announcement engagement like oh my god i was on a emergency live episode like couldn't be more excited and then there's a countdown ha ha shiny bug can you what's shiny bug I don't even know you're talking about like she did all those vinyls and one of them was like the life of the show girl the shiny bug blah blah blah blah and people thought that was super bull shiny bug got it okay but it was just a bug that was shiny no it was just like then I don't know what the fuck it was and then you know just like how she did like pink lemonade spritz album

27:33Jackie Oshry:got it okay so when I saw there was a GMA announcement like I did not gird my loins I honestly was just prepared to be disappointed I was not like staying up to listen or whatever and then when I was seeing the first announcement come out I was like oh the Eros tour is coming out but this time it's a documentary with the TTPD I'm like oh that's nice I don't know if that's like a GMA announcement but great then I saw the six episodes things I'm like this this is something

27:55Claudia Oshry:I'm looking forward to yeah and I'm glad that she recorded the behind the scenes it was a major moment I feel like there's Travis is there content to pull from it oh yeah I mean we only know you

28:08Jackie Oshry:know the life of a showgirl the front-facing show that we've all seen a million times but it really I do find it interesting like what goes on backstage behind the curtain of like the biggest tour of all time and then of course what's going on in her personal life simultaneously is even more interesting so I think that this is great I love a docuseries Taylor has done you know docu-style content before Miss Americana which was good so I'm excited two things one I just

28:32Claudia Oshry:sent you shiny bug so take a look I didn't just pull it out of my arse no I believe you yeah and then the second thing i was gonna say i'll wait until i have your full attention for this one this one's an on brand with jimmy fallon sort of idea wait where'd you send it uh dm oh oh sorry sorry i should have made that clear we have multiple channels of communication shiny bug vinyl okay like what yeah i don't know um she should have called this even though the end of an era is that she should have called it like the showgirl and like uh right right worked it into to low us because actually this documentary should have been called the life of a showgirl because this is about the behind the scenes of the show which is what she said life of a showgirl is about yes yes documentary no i prefer to low us no brainer one thing about taylor and you know

29:29Jackie Oshry:I love her. She's not good at naming things. And like she loves to have like a million parentheses. Like even like the Taylor Swift, the Ares tour, the Ares show. Like just. Taylor's version. It should just be called Ares. Acoustic. She loves like a lengthy title with like parentheses, commas, semicolons.

29:49Claudia Oshry:Your worst nightmare. Oh, except for commas. You like commas too. I do. You really do. This one has lines.

29:57Jackie Oshry:Oh, and Taylor was at the game yesterday. She didn't like, you know, do her big fancy walk, but they just, you know, they got her in the suite, the camera.

30:03Claudia Oshry:She was seen in the box, which like confirms the fact that she wasn't seen for a month because of her plastic surgery. Allegedly, but that just feels like very obvious now. I caught a little bit of the game. The Chiefs won. I couldn't stay up that late. But Travis was like, OK, I don't know. I think it's time to retire.

30:25Jackie Oshry:I know. It's like he didn't want to retire because he wants to come back and win this season. and he like spent a whole off season in Florida with this like fancy pargy trainer and he's coming back better than ever. He's the best shape he's ever been. And he's just like playing really not good. And there's like young hot things on the team like who do his job, but better. And I just feel awkward.

30:43Claudia Oshry:I feel awkward. I also feel like Patrick is like doing the best he can for him and like still giving him like trying to give him moments and stuff. But like at a certain point, like he can only do so much for his friend.

30:53Jackie Oshry:Patrick has to balance like being the quarterback of a team that like has other things going on besides Travis. while also his friendship with Travis and like wanting to throw Travis the ball. But it's like, Travis, if I throw you the ball, are you going to catch it?

31:03Claudia Oshry:No, and it's like if he doesn't throw Travis the ball, like is Taylor going to be mad at him? Take it out on Britney. Take it out on Britney, right. I feel like there's a lot of dynamics at play and it's holding Travis Patrick back.

31:13Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I agree. Like the toxic friendship.

31:15Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I have felt that too. So anyways, we'll catch you for the documentary. That's exciting. Oh yeah.

31:24Jackie Oshry:I'll be tuning in.

31:25Claudia Oshry:Yeah. our next story is some new couple news that i don't know if you've heard yet because i just heard it for the first time and it's very new two dates in two nights between john mayer and kat stickler okay so i did see this on dumas but then i saw everybody in the comments

31:42Jackie Oshry:dispelling it like no she just hard launched a boyfriend on social media so i don't know what's true and i don't know what's not okay yeah no this is from dumas but they were seen going and Dumois was responding to comments like maybe her and John are friends. Like, which is it? Oh, did I get got? Like, she literally just, she's been like sneakily hinting that she's been seeing someone for a while.

32:02Claudia Oshry:But I don't think that this is it because this seems like they just went on a date and it was really good. So they went on a second date. And then she like hard launched him like he was in the video. Can you just like go look on TikTok? I'll look on Instagram. Yeah, of course.

32:14Jackie Oshry:But look, what am I looking for?

32:15Claudia Oshry:A boyfriend. like I guess it's possible that they broke up and then she went on a date with John Mayer but I don't know she like finally put him in her videos you would you would break up with him to go on a date with John Mayer wouldn't you I actually wouldn't not to make everything about

32:34Jackie Oshry:me but like I have like moved off of my crush on John Mayer just like I still would go out with him just like for the story and I could probably like let him kiss me but you'd let him you're so

32:45Claudia Oshry:generous um so I kind of want to like just roll with this on the off chance that it's real and

32:53Jackie Oshry:I'm not saying that it's not true do you ship it's not that I don't ship I don't know if it's true but again I don't I think there are a lot of people who keep up with Kat Stickler and like are obsessed with who she's dating and like are either like freaking out that she's dating someone new or they shame her for introducing one of you know a man to her kid without like there's she get so much hate I don't actually don't know if they're dating I I feel like Dumois doesn't know

33:17Claudia Oshry:either um is it because that you took Jason's side in the breakup oh that's a good question

33:26Jackie Oshry:I actually didn't take Jason's side in the breakup because and I mean it's a love I don't care

33:35Claudia Oshry:um you don't just find yourself like having like a a wall up because being team jason

33:42Jackie Oshry:i actually do find myself having a wall up but that's just because i love walls yeah i love your wall contractor so i the thing is with john mayer is like you really can't even if he was dating someone like you love you can't get excited about him he's like this eternal bachelor It's not fun. I actually gave up hope on John Mayer after Katy Perry because to me there was like so many girls up until that point that really could have been the girl for him. Jessica Simpson, Jennifer Aniston, and after Katy Perry, who I really believe is the one that got away for John Mayer.

34:17Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

34:20Jackie Oshry:It's hard to get excited and invested in his dating life. It's such a fruitless, like unhappy endeavor.

34:25Claudia Oshry:Well, considering we don't have much to say about this for a multitude of reasons. Speaking of Katy Perry, did you see her? Did you see Mr. Trudeau grab-assing her? A handful of arse of Katy Perry?

34:40Jackie Oshry:I did. Also, it's worth mentioning because I think we did not say this the last time we talked about Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau. Huge, important, just like small detail. Justin Trudeau is actually not the active prime minister of Canada. So him being on a boat in California with an ass full of Katy Perry is technically okay with me. Because it's not like he has a job he should be doing he's separated from his wife oh separated yeah I do think like you should wait till it's final to be grabbing ass and not just like grabbing ass but like you know because you're

35:11Claudia Oshry:in a bathing suit it's skin it's a lot of ass yeah it's skin to skin and this does feel like

35:17Jackie Oshry:a historic event in the sense that I cannot think in recent memory of a similar example where a politician has been caught like with a celebrity grabbing ass oh i don't know about like caught

35:29Claudia Oshry:grabbing ass but there have been a couple of politicians who have like been with celebrities like for real like carla bruni and nicholas sarkozy oh actually okay yeah also cheryl from

35:48Jackie Oshry:larry david that's a great comparison thank you even though it's different it precedes right their marriage precedes his candidacy whereas like justin trudeau's an established

36:00Claudia Oshry:politician yeah they're really there is no oh oh oh cory booker and rosario dawson

36:06Jackie Oshry:yes very good example and they would never be caught like this and if they did like it would be inappropriate like do you know what i mean i'm sorry if that's like not okay to say but it's this is inappropriate not to be such a prude like clutching my pearls but it's like you're the prime minister of canada for crying it's not even like you're the prime minister of somewhere like sexy like it's canada yeah what are you doing bro yeah like put your coat on what are you doing yeah it's like a little what's this a boot

36:40yeah it's a shame though because there it could be really like exciting there's potential for

36:45Claudia Oshry:excitement it just like doesn't hit for me in the way that i think they intended and that they thought it right correct which i think seems to happen with katie perry like a lot

36:55Jackie Oshry:well therein lies the issue either she's been real quiet wait can we talk about j-lo what about what a boot so this we talked about that movie premiere that she went to with her The Kiss of a Spider Woman. And so The Kiss of a Spider Woman opened like this past weekend with like$1.5 million in ticket sales, like a record low. And then like all these like pop crave like Twitter accounts that like literally celebrities just pay these accounts to like say stuff about them and like promote their new music. And it's like Kiss of a Spider Death with J-Lo has early Oscar buzz. No, it doesn't.

37:29Claudia Oshry:No, it doesn't.

37:31Jackie Oshry:and then this video of her going viral um is going viral of her rehearsing have you seen it no so she's like in her house with her vocal coach and she's like singing this big note and she's not like botching it but it's like so average like so average and she's like and then she's like it's like so self-righteous and the vocal coach is like clapping like yes things you did like yes you're that bitch it is so cringe because like the vocal performance she delivers prior to like everybody clapping for her is so mediocre and she's just like she's like the j-lo hate i could say i could feel it like it's rising she's getting clowned on for this

38:11Claudia Oshry:movie and then the video okay well i don't want to pile on and i also just move on i'm not interested yeah i'm kind of into it are you ready for our next story number four yeah peace on earth historic peace was brokered this weekend between lauren conrad and kristen cavallari

38:35Jackie Oshry:i was like wait that's actually crazy she's making the story especially the fourth story like world peace i was just like i genuinely confused a plus delivery let me just tell you that a plus thank you so much world peace is the fourth story world peace like is kind of the energy of the week so it makes sense that lc and kristen cav like got back together yeah lauren conrad and kristen

38:58Claudia Oshry:Cavallari squashed years long feud with a Laguna Beach reunion photo so they didn't give us much but they posted a picture together and Kristen said everyone can put away their team Lauren and team Kristen shirts now that's all I don't want to break it to Kristen Cavallari like nobody has a team Lauren or team Kristen shirt like nobody really cares anymore so Kristen is about to start doing like rewatch for the hills and I know that like when she did back to the beach they had Lauren on and that was the bearing of the hatchet it was such like it was such a healing episode it was huge and also like it was so good like to see them like come together like talk about like this beef and like each of their POVs and like at this point like people love both of them whether regardless of what side you were on back in the day um so like that we can root for both of our faves now is really exciting yeah and it feels fair because at the time like it was just

39:46Jackie Oshry:everyone against Kristen Cavallari and then if you re-watch it as an adult which I think a lot of people did you're like my god Lauren's fucking insufferable and she's so rude and like sorry Kristen's the fun one. Kristen's the one like who's more sympathetic when you rewatch it like through adult eyes. So I do feel like things have like leveled out.

40:03Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And I hope like now in life they have much more in common than they have not in common. They're both moms, business owners. Similar sort of business. Both really successful. There's enough space for all of us. And I'm happy to see that they're friends and that like. So do we know the context in which they got together? No. That's the thing. So maybe like Lauren's going on her podcast to do a Little Hills recon, but they were never on the hills at the same time. So the episodes that Kristen's watching, I don't even think Lauren's in them. Yes, they were when they were both dating Steven. That's OC, Laguna Beach.

40:42Jackie Oshry:Oh, wait, sorry. Kristen Cavallari is rewatching the hills.

40:46Claudia Oshry:Yes. Like later in the hills after Lauren left, they brought Kristen on. And so she's rewatching those episodes. With Brody, right. And recapping and like Justin Bobby and Audrina. But I don't think Lauren was ever on when she was on. So I don't know if they're going to recap it together.

41:02Jackie Oshry:Right. I'd have a hard time like imagine them getting together for like social purposes. Like if it's not like a podcast or a rewatch or something. But I'd also have a hard time believing that Lauren would do another. Like her going to Back to the Beach was so crazy, so big. And it was like going to be the first and last time she ever, ever discussed any of it. Right? Yeah. I don't know. I can't see her doing it twice. so then it was just for fun it looks like they're in a house yeah it looked like a party it definitely was giving like elsie's house you think so yeah it looked like very cottagecore oh nara smith had

41:33Claudia Oshry:her baby i saw bonnie there's like a step stool right here i just feel like and a white trash can no it's not elsie's house okay not the white refrigerator it looks like a rental oh okay not the rental yeah no but a nice one sorry to whoever home this is but you could have put the stepstool away for this iconic picture of world peace nobel peace prize whoever's house it is nominated for the nobel before we dive into the fifth and final which is going to lead us into the dtq

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46:14Claudia Oshry:but no i didn't i hadn't touched on the sizes yet so thank you uh but you're welcome trust us once your order arrives you'll be hooked that's s-h-o-p-a-v-a-r-a.com remember the name avara because everyone's going to ask you where you got your new outfit. Our fifth and final story, Kylie Jenner is promoting a new Kylie Cosmetics campaign called the King Kylie Collection, hailing back to the days of yore of King Kylie. So for her new campaign for Kylie Cosmetics, she's throwing it back to the days of teal blue hair and Snapchat. chat and it's a makeup collection about King Kylie era if you were there for King Kylie era like this that sentence it was lots of color crazy lips if you were there for it like what I just said makes sense if you weren't then I don't know how to explain it any better than that honestly

47:10Jackie Oshry:this was like the era that Kylie was living in that really launched her billion dollar beauty brand she was doing these like crazy eye looks these crazy lip colors she would wear like you know teal hair she wore teal hair to Kim and Kanye's wedding Kim you know famously hated it and this was like kind of that like rebellious teen that launched this huge brand um and that was also really the vibe aesthetically back in the day like people were really into this like color wow like just crazy big palettes very jeffree star and the beauty industry has like moved on from that it's much more like clean girl aesthetic everything's nude and shimmery now um so on the one hand i'm like happy that kylie specifically kylie cosmetics like is doing something that people are talking about because the brand really has i feel been struggling to like make a splash recently but the fact that like what they're making a splash with is something like old and like silly and this is like a sort of memorabilia type thing it doesn't bode well

48:00Claudia Oshry:yeah a couple times over the last 10 years she's like thrown it back to king kylie it's always like you know she'll put on a wig and she'll be like king kylie we're like but now clearly like a lot of money and time and resources have been invested into a king kylie collection and um yeah i know you guys know like I love everything Kylie does like I love her so much and I actually I love Kylie Cosmetics I love I love your lips kits Kylie still like I think that they really work for me in this life um this is a no for me dog I completely agree like I actually could not

48:31Jackie Oshry:muster up one positive thing to say about this like I don't care even like the video of her singing and then the Snapchat thing like I like I literally don't oh yeah there's a song and it's

48:39Claudia Oshry:also a partnership with Snapchat and I guess Snapchat was like germane to the king Kylie process as one of Kylie's biggest fans like none of this is doing anything for me I know and I'm

48:51Jackie Oshry:like waiting to feel something but nothing's coming because I again don't care um and it's a shame because I actually think Kylie Cosmetics I don't know where they go from here because they do have some bomb products like nobody cares the skin tint I got over the summer is like my favorite thing I've ever worn and skin tints are really in right now and there's like so many viral ones and the Kylie's is not there. I don't know how they get back in the game. I just really don't think going back to like the thing that launched is going to work.

49:19Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but I also feel like aside from this King Kylie, like if this is their, you know, big stab at coming back, like I think it's like the wrong move in the wrong direction. Me too. I do feel like they actually don't try that hard. Like - I wish they did. Right, like you're saying the product is good. And I agree. It is. Like when I need new lipsticks, like I go to KylieCosmetics.com because I know I like the colors. I like the formula. The products are good. So it's not even like she has to like brand build in that sense. She just has to like do some shit. Like influence her events. She just needs to care like a little bit more.

49:46Claudia Oshry:Like the way that Hailey Bieber is like always. And not to pit women against each other. I mean she does her like cute videos. I really enjoy them. Me too with Stormy. But that's like one bit of the piece of the puzzle.

50:01Jackie Oshry:Yeah. When it comes to being like a celebrity founder in like the beauty space. You have to be doing what like Selena, Hailey. Like throwing these events. making content with influencers doing the tiktok brand trips like she does none of that like i don't even know what they do that they don't do pr boxes like and if they do they're not making waves because i do not see them yeah the way that like people are desperate to get their hands on the road pr like that's brilliant marketing like you you don't have to i don't think road has ever paid an influencer yeah but people are dying like one of my actual claim to fame is that i get the road pr and like if i ever get taken off of it i will know i'm like seriously on the outs like i'm not cool anymore it's a status symbol kylie is like totally failed in that way it just feels like she doesn't really care about the brand and if that's the case like that's totally fine like

50:46Claudia Oshry:seriously just put it out and is it because like cody owns 50 of it like she collects a check no matter how it does she does the same i don't know i don't know but it should be because she

50:58Jackie Oshry:was you know one of the early ones before everyone before selena before hailey like kylie was the one who sold her company for a billion dollars and like was the the first girly of this gen to do it in in a real big way and after that like my I just feel like the hardest

51:15Claudia Oshry:part about being in the beauty industry is like making good products that people actually need and they they actually they have that yeah their products like I haven't I don't use all of them I

51:25Jackie Oshry:think like a lot of their powders are like not great but I like her skin tint I think her concealers went over really really well um the packaging's cute she's like scaled back that like hard king kylie you know color sharp vibes but i don't know it's just she like doesn't seem to

51:40Claudia Oshry:give a shit but but now she's giving a shit and it's with this and like that's where like now i have a red flag up before this i was like she's kylie she could do what she could care as

51:49Jackie Oshry:much as she wants but now she's trying and it's like not good yeah yeah yeah that's the vibe so

51:55Claudia Oshry:um if you're excited about this i'm happy for you none of this did anything for me and like and I love her to bits. Right.

52:03Jackie Oshry:We're always just like waiting for her to do something.

52:05Claudia Oshry:And she's like putting out, you know, the videos and the promo videos and Chris picking her up from jail. And I'm good. I'm all set. Thanks.

52:14Jackie Oshry:Well, let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where every Tuesday, Jackie and I help out the swirlies in need. Write to us, deartosters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com to submit to us what's going on in your life at work, a relationship issue, a family issue, a bridesmaids issue. we cover all issues we don't really care as long as it's good and interesting and if your submission has not been read on air it might be too long feel free to send it in again but you know just the need to know information but it also might have not been read because it's not interesting and for that I actually really can't help you but congrats like nobody wants interesting problems you know it's so true speaking of interesting problems our first one I really don't know where to begin dear toasters my parents who were swingers and previously in a thruple are now getting divorced my father has decided to stay with the woman that they were in the thruple with my father and this woman are trying to plan family events while my parents divorce is not finalized under the false pretense that everything's totally normal I'm not comfortable with this but I've had many arguments with my father about how I'm not being fair to him by not accepting this arrangement right now what would you do in the situation attend family events with my father despite my feelings or stick to my guns and not attend I'm like so sorry um I'm sorry

53:23Claudia Oshry:you're going through all this it's really hard for me to like focus on what you're going through like when I'm thinking about your mom like having her husband left for her for like a woman that

53:31Jackie Oshry:she's like slept with as well um yeah not to be like such a bitch um I just think when you invite this sort of chaos into your home like you really can't be shocked when something like this happens not at all blaming your mom so my mind didn't go there my mind went if you were in my shoes like what would you do I genuinely I'm having a hard time putting myself in your shoes like first of what goes on to your parents like personalize in their bed really like is not your business and i'm sorry that you even know about this because that's just hard um and i don't think you're crazy for not wanting to hang out with your dad and his new girlfriend who also used to be your mom's girlfriend i would stick to your guns here like i'm actually speechless like i don't know

54:17Claudia Oshry:like if all like the crazy outcomes of this you know ill-fated relationship like you at events like it's not registering for me yeah here's what i'm saying okay but like seriously if you don't want to go don't go like as these people like actually i don't want to be judgmental no you

54:38Jackie Oshry:know what actually i was just on tiktok watching um alex earl she's posting a lot so for dedication night which is tonight they are dancing you know for people who mean a lot to them and explaining and I thought Alex was going to be dancing with her sister Ashton but she's actually dancing with her little sister Isabel who was the first kid in their family born after Alex's father cheated on her mother with Ashley Dupre very famous situation he ended up marrying Ashley Dupre like left his wife for Ashley and then they had children together and obviously this was like a traumatic thing for Alex like her dad cheated on her mom left her mom and she was obviously like not ever going to talk to her dad and and his wife again then they had kids and then that's like her half sibling and so she's dancing for Isabel because Isabel she says like really healed her family like the way we always talk about how they're blended family is so crazy like I could never like I literally could never and she's dancing for her sister Isabel because they all loved Isabel so much like it literally healed the entire family and we always remark on how mature it is that Alex is so you know close with her stepmom and that they include Alex's mom in everything and they really like attributed it to the little sister so I don't know how that helps

55:45Claudia Oshry:this girl honestly it just makes it worse because it's like contending with the fact that your parents are splitting up even an affair that's turned into like a marriage contending with all that's like really hard the thruple piece um it's just kind of like throwing a wrench into everything But I will say like you do you. You know what? At this point, the adults in your life have let you down. It's true. Do what's best for you. You don't owe anyone anything. You don't need to cut people off. That's still like your family. But like if you don't want to go to everything and you don't want to try and make this work, like you don't have to.

56:24Claudia Oshry:You're grown. Do what feels right for you. Don't feel obligated to do all this stuff.

56:29Jackie Oshry:and to our listeners like if you're ever thinking of getting into like some extracurricular marital activities let this situation just be like a lesson of a potential outcome is it worth it yeah next up hey swirlies i need your take on some major friend group drama my husband and i have been part of this group for about five years and a few weeks ago a saga begun that has us all shook we were at one of the couple's houses for a pool day one of the kids slipped on the marble patio. Totally fine. No injuries at all. The dad slash husband in our group who's known for being a jokester says, uh-oh, we could sue.

57:05Jackie Oshry:Harmless, right? At least that's what we thought. Apparently the hosts did not think it was funny at all. In fact, they've since hired a lawyer and are now insisting that we all sign a legal waiver before stepping foot back into their home. They claim everyone they ask totally agrees with them. But whenever I ask people if they think this is absolutely bananas, what do you guys think? Would you ever sign something like this just to keep hanging out at a friend's house or is this friendship just toast well how nice is the pool you know like do you like is it really like imperative that you get back into this house like whether it just be like you have a lot of fun there um and of course like don't just sign it have someone look it over because you never know what they can be making you sign like evaluate like how badly do you want to get back into this house like if it's so important to your social life that like you'd be included in this group and that you like you love the house so much then yeah I would just figure it out if they're not gonna let up but it's definitely weird like I'm

57:56Claudia Oshry:here to validate you it's it's certainly weird and I guess if it's gonna like be detrimental to your life and your joy and your fun like sign it because it's not like you were gonna sue anyway if even if something did happen but that's weird that's where their minds went and like they just couldn't take a joke and now it's getting all legal like that just is a weird dynamic now and even if you sign it it's a weird dynamic and if you don't sign it then you're missing out on five

58:22Jackie Oshry:years of friendship although i do think you and the remaining four couples like need to all align are you all signing it or are you all not signing it there's strength in numbers and it where it

58:32Claudia Oshry:will get murky is like if certain people sign it well then they'll be no like that just splits the group like because whoever doesn't sign it won't be invited to these events and then it's like not fun anymore like then the group has officially broken up no no it's officially not Jersey Shore

58:46Jackie Oshry:officially not fun anymore like well of course yeah but it's kind of like Jersey Shore like when they all banded together to get paid the same amount per episode when they were renegotiating their contracts and they end up getting like a million dollars an episode um did they all deserve a million no but there's strength in numbers so i would find out what the crew is doing and like all agree to like either do something together or not but also you never said that like this house

59:10Claudia Oshry:is like the best house out of all the houses and we can only go like how about someone else host

59:14Jackie Oshry:right like maybe they just isolate themselves but it sounds like they kind of like have a leg to stand on like maybe they have the best house that was the vibe tile yeah i just want to say the

59:21Claudia Oshry:vibe i was getting was like rich yeah like slip and slide right outdoor kitchen yeah summer kitchen for sure it's giving decked out on the deck yeah

59:37you could sign it i mean read it well yeah have someone read it or chat cheapity

59:43Claudia Oshry:give it to chat at the very least don't waste money yeah at the vendor no like if you're not gonna have a lawyer look at it if you're not going to like at least have chat look at it

59:51Jackie Oshry:upload it to chat but have a lawyer okay this third one is funny hi i'm in a predicament and i need your advice i am a gay male toaster and i recently matched with arty from glee on raya his name is kevin mccale i'm not really interested romantically but i do want to ask some questions about the show since i was a big fan how do i proceed without being rude

1:00:14Claudia Oshry:okay I first saw it as like maybe you guys connect and you like ask him these questions and that could like lead to more connection um but if you're really just like using him to get answers about glee like if you really don't think that you're open to any sort of

1:00:30Jackie Oshry:connection like you can't sorry yeah if you're if you're not open at all to any sort of romantic connection like just listen to his podcast he literally has a podcast where he talks about glee I feel like there's actually nothing that's like a secret anymore but if you're even open and if you're such a big glee fan like wouldn't you like definitely I feel like you could and should be open to the idea of romantically linking so I would go on a date with him like if it turns out like that you guys match and whatever um with an open heart and of course an open mind of questions

1:00:58Claudia Oshry:I agree and I think you can use your questions as like a really good icebreaker and segue into learning more about each other but if you are genuinely not at all like interested and you're just there like a reporter don't waste his time agreed that's like rude to kevin self yeah yeah

1:01:13Jackie Oshry:and also not to make everything about me i actually did go on his podcast he literally has a podcast where he like sits down with fellow gleeks he like loves when people are invested in the show so i don't think you would be offending him at all but again only if it's like under the guise of like there being potential for something between you two yeah thank you to everybody who wrote into dt this week again if you want to write in it's deartoasters at gmail.com or head over to our website thetoastpodcast.com that is our show thank you so much for listening to the toast the manly morning show where you deliver the fastest stories you need to know every minute through Friday on youtube so if you're watching this on youtube please feel free to subscribe to this video thumbs up we're also available as a podcast and where podcast we found on spotify it's in stitcher public video i read cast talks all the places you love listening to podcast find us at toast leave a five-star view about a beautiful

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