I Juuust Had A Baby: Thursday, February 26th, 2026

26 Feb 2026 · 1 h · 24 chapters

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Episode Title

I Juuust Had A Baby Date: February 26, 2026 Hosts: Jackie and Claudia Oshry

Episode Overview In this episode, Jackie and Claudia discuss current events, personal updates, and pop culture highlights, while intertwining humor and relatable anecdotes. The episode covers a variety of topics, including celebrity news, personal parenting experiences, and commentary on social media dynamics.

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Key Topics Discussed

  1. Tragic News from 'RHOSLC'
  2. Mary Cosby's son, Robert Jr., has died at the age of 23.
  3. The death is believed to have resulted from an overdose.
  4. Claudia and Jackie express deep sadness for Mary and hope she finds support during this difficult time.
  1. Hilary Duff on Breastfeeding Struggles
  2. Hilary Duff shares her challenges with breastfeeding and combo feeding.
  3. Duff mentions feeling emotional about her experience and admits she intentionally crashed the Freaky Friday premiere where she encountered Lindsay Lohan.
  4. The conversation highlights the pressures and struggles many mothers face regarding feeding their children.
  1. Emma Roberts' New Project
  2. Emma Roberts is set to star in a television reimagining of the film “Bride Wars” for Peacock.
  3. The new series is described to focus on a wedding planner rivalry in a small town.
  1. Hannah Neeleman's Pregnancy Announcement
  2. Hannah Neeleman reveals she is expecting her ninth child, which is discussed in light of her and her husband’s openness about their family planning.
  3. The hosts comment on the societal perceptions of large families and parenting choices.
  1. Bill Gates' Confession
  2. Bill Gates admits to cheating on Melinda Gates during their marriage, confessing to two affairs.
  3. The conversation touches on the implications of these revelations and the public's perception of high-profile marriages.

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Recaps and Commentary

The Masked Singer Recap

  • The identity of Snow Cone was revealed as Heidi Montag.
  • Pug Caso is speculated to be Philip Phillips, generating excitement around the show.

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Personal Updates and Anecdotes

Parenting Experiences

  • Jackie discusses her personal journey of motherhood, emphasizing how long one can claim to "just have a baby."
  • Both hosts share humorous insights about their eating habits and current health journeys regarding medication for weight control.

Social Media and Public Life

  • The hosts discuss the pressure of public perception, especially related to parenting and lifestyle choices.
  • They reflect on the impact of social media on mental health and how quickly personal experiences can be judged or misconstrued online.

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Key Takeaways

  • The episode balances heavy topics, such as loss and struggles with light-hearted conversations about celebrity culture and personal anecdotes.
  • There is an emphasis on the importance of community and support, especially for those going through challenging times.
  • Jackie and Claudia showcase their unique chemistry and humor, providing listeners with both entertainment and relatable discussions.

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Concluding Thoughts The episode ends on a light note, with Jackie and Claudia planning to engage in activities together, reinforcing the theme of friendship and support. The hosts encourage listeners to engage positively with their content and appreciate the reality of everyday challenges.

Next Episode Teaser Listeners are left with anticipation for the next episode, which promises more engaging discussions and updates on the stories covered.

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Chapters

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Postpartum Reflections

0:45 to 2:38

Discussion on the emotional journey after having a baby and societal perceptions.

“had like a whole argument being like, I just had a baby.”

Pregnancy Perks and Challenges

2:38 to 3:28

Exploring the pros and cons of pregnancy and postpartum experiences.

“For like my like year and a half off, everybody was talking about Zep Bound.”

Health Decisions and Medications

3:28 to 5:17

Discussion about switching medications and personal health journeys.

“Like, of course, like, I have food control issues.”

Target Shopping Controversy

5:17 to 7:38

Conversations about shopping experiences at Target and social media reactions.

“I mean, everyone coming for me like seriously?”

Selfies and Modern Photography

7:38 to 9:30

Reflections on the nature of selfies and modern photography habits.

“like Jimmy Fallon got the job of like late night when like somebody in the comment section of our daily episodes are funnier.”

Reality TV Recap: Southern Charm

9:30 to 12:39

Recap and analysis of the latest episode of Southern Charm and its characters.

“Apparently the Samsungs have been doing that for years.”

Southern Charm Dynamics

14:00 to 15:20

Discussion about the current season of Southern Charm and cast relationships.

“hitting the bottle and um like where his friends are just always yelling at him and it's like what What if you tried being there for him?”

Tragic News in Reality TV

21:10 to 24:10

Discussion about the death of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star Mary Cosby's son.

“Like I know in moments like this, like, you know, reality TV crews are like told to like, you know, capture it all.”

Celebrity Breastfeeding Conversations

24:10 to 27:50

Discussion on Hillary Duff's breastfeeding struggles and the relevance to new mothers.

“So she said she could still cry thinking about breastfeeding struggles and admit she was stubborn about combo feeding.”

Social Media Dynamics and Relationships

27:50 to 28:00

Discussion on social media interactions among celebrities and their implications.

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Instagram Glitches and Celebrity Follows

28:00 to 29:50

The hosts discuss recent Instagram issues and celebrity interactions on the platform.

“A lot of people can be supporting a friend.”

Emma Roberts and the Bride Wars Reboot

29:50 to 31:30

The conversation shifts to Emma Roberts starring in a reboot of Bride Wars for TV.

“Emma Roberts will star in a Bride Wars movie reimagination for TV in development at Peacock.”

Analyzing the Star Power of Bride Wars

31:30 to 33:10

The hosts analyze the star power and cast of the original Bride Wars film.

“Oh, and she was like competing with, yeah, with the local.”

Comparing Reboots and Originality in Film

33:10 to 35:00

A discussion on the originality of reboots and whether they can be creatively inspired.

“What do people say was his launching pad?”

Ballerina Farm's Pregnant Star and Family Life

35:00 to 37:50

Discussion about Ballerina Farm's Hannah Nealman and her recent pregnancy announcement.

“I feel like I'm not, but it feels like kind of crazy to not be ready.”

Life with Multiple Children and Home Management

37:50 to 40:30

The hosts explore the dynamics of managing a large family and the challenges that come with it.

“The six-year-old did a whole sourdough from like starter, which if you made sourdough, like that's insane.”

Bill Gates' Confession and Its Fallout

43:10 to 45:56

Discussion on Bill Gates admitting to affairs and the implications for Melinda.

“Our fifth and final story, and then we have a bonus story.”

Controversies Surrounding Bill Gates

45:56 to 48:03

Exploring Gates' ties to Jeffrey Epstein and the workplace impact of his revelations.

“And I feel like the details that he gave about his mistresses were really unnecessary.”

The Masked Singer Recap

48:03 to 50:45

Recap of the latest Masked Singer episode, including unmaskings and theories.

“The masked singer revealed the identity of Snow Cone.”

Discussion on Philip Phillips and Pug Caso

50:45 to 55:08

Conversation around Pug Caso's identity and thoughts on Philip Phillips.

“I have only said amazing positive things because I believe.”

Blueberry Spill at Target

56:00 to 56:32

The hosts share a humorous story about a blueberry spill during a shopping trip.

“Oh, did you see I spilled blueberries at Target?”

Childhood Memories and First Kisses

56:32 to 57:24

The hosts reminisce about their childhood, including first kisses and middle school experiences.

“Satcheloo is coming to town And with that The 2026 Yes Do people know that we know him?”

Navigating Peanut Allergies

57:24 to 58:30

A discussion on the challenges of growing up with peanut allergies and food alternatives.

“I don't know where I ended up, but like it was in a bad spot.”

Show Updates and Call to Action

58:30 to 59:39

The hosts discuss show logistics and encourage listeners to subscribe and leave reviews.

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Transcript

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0:03Jackie Oshry:Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a part delicious.

0:28Claudia Oshry:Thursday. I didn't know that was happening.

0:29Jackie Oshry:It's not. No, I think it is. I'm like every day this week wrong. Like every single day. I just have so much going on.

0:35Claudia Oshry:Like every day is just a tornado.

0:38Jackie Oshry:I know. And like, you know, when you like start fighting with someone in your head, like I was like, like this lady in the parking garage here today, like she like started with me and I had like a whole argument being like, I just had a baby. And I'm like, I literally had a baby almost a year ago. When do you stop saying that?

0:52Claudia Oshry:I think one year, like you are postpart. Well, first of all, you don't get back to your true self until two years. Of course, of course. Emotionally, like your DNA.

0:59Jackie Oshry:I will be in hospice saying I just had a baby.

1:02Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But I think you have till one year.

1:05Jackie Oshry:Gotta get pregnant again.

1:07Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

1:07Jackie Oshry:I'm pregnant and I just had a baby. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm, that's why it was like, that's the best part of being pregnant. Now I'm obviously like romanticizing pregnancy. It was like one of the hardest things I've ever done. But like now, like everyone's so nice to you. They take care of you. And then when you just give birth, they take care of you. Everywhere you go, you feel like a celebrity.

1:23Claudia Oshry:Like you're walking through a restaurant, like with a big belly.

1:26Jackie Oshry:And then even when you have a newborn and then you're breastfeeding, Like you get special accommodations and then when it's over, like you're just a bitch.

1:32Claudia Oshry:Like, yeah, I'm enter. I'm like slowly entering.

1:36Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it's almost over for you. It's almost like we're not going to accommodate around your schedule and like you're everything. Like you're that girl for the moment.

1:43Claudia Oshry:For sure. But like pros and cons, because then like the sooner you exit that stage, like the sooner you feel more. You can just be like a human being and you don't need special treatment. The thing about like pregnant women and postpartum, like you need special treatment. Of course. You're going special parking. But like, wouldn't you just rather be like good? I don't know. I don't know. stepping your step good is regular like i want to park i don't care where i park because i can walk

2:03Jackie Oshry:like yeah i'm good but i can't walk that's the thing you're not good yet that's the thing i wasn't good before like i'm not a good person like i'm not okay um i wanted to say big news in my life i didn't even talk to you about this but i've made a decision i'm getting off set bound okay switching to semaglutide um i don't feel like the set bound is vibing with me like i I'm having good results, but I've been getting like migraines and I think it might be due to that. So I'm just going back to my OG.

2:34Claudia Oshry:I don't know why you ever didn't do your OG for this trip around the O's.

2:38Jackie Oshry:For like my like year and a half off, everybody was talking about Zep Bound. So I just like, I don't know why I was like. You just assumed you would Zep Bound even. And Ben was on it and I was like, yeah, great. Sign me up. We have the same doctor. So I was like, yeah, give me what he gave. You know, I just.

2:50Claudia Oshry:No, women's health is so personal. I mean, I feel like we're always saying that. Healthcare is so personal. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Women's health in particular, like, were not the same. Yeah. And you had so much success when you did your first stint with GLP1s. If I were you, I would say copy-paste.

3:05Jackie Oshry:Yeah, so I'm just kind of, like, in this terrible period where I'm waiting for my semaglutide, and I am a week out of my zap-bound, so, like, I'm eating good in the neighborhood.

3:12Claudia Oshry:Oh, let's go to lunch.

3:13Jackie Oshry:Like, we should vlog. Like, I'm ready to eat. I'm eating today. Supersize me. Literally.

3:18Claudia Oshry:Supersize me to vlog.

3:19Jackie Oshry:There's something about, like, the few days after a shot wears off where, like, you're your biggest, baddest self, you know? Like, worse than you are. Like, of course, like, I have food control issues. That's why I'm on the drug. No, but you have some making up to do. But in these days in particular. Mom's getting stifled. Actually, I have a dinner reservation tonight, so, like, I think I'm going to go ham.

3:38Claudia Oshry:Somewhere good? Yeah. Have I been there? I don't know. Oh, yeah, so good. Yeah. A classic. Yeah. Classic stuff. I thought I'd, like, go date night.

3:48Jackie Oshry:I'm literally reading Cartwright. Day-noit.

3:51Claudia Oshry:Who is she? I'm day-noit with.

3:53Jackie Oshry:I don't know, but that's her vocal stim. Everybody, when they copy her, they're like, day-noit.

3:57Claudia Oshry:People can't live.

3:59Jackie Oshry:You can't just be Irish. Or Kentuckian. I mean, that's so us. When somebody flubs a word. No, it's us. Game tunes is a typo that we literally will never live down.

4:12Claudia Oshry:I was actually moving on from it until Valentine's Day happened again. So it was game tunes.

4:16Jackie Oshry:Try as we might, we couldn't move on.

4:17Claudia Oshry:I'm going to do this game to say once again. But you are the queen of that. I might be like the jester. Yeah. But you're the queen of calling people out for pronunciations.

4:25Jackie Oshry:I feel like if that's my legacy, like I'm okay with that. It's harmless fun. It's annoying at best, but it's not mean spirited. No, but we have to talk to Margo. Call Margo.

4:36Claudia Oshry:No, because she won't agree with me. She'll say it's mean. That's the point. She'll unload her trauma.

4:42Jackie Oshry:Can we talk about like some of the wokies coming after me for stealing from Target?

4:45Claudia Oshry:You know what? I meant to talk to you about this offline. I just want to say like. These narcs. Who are these narcs?

4:50Jackie Oshry:I know. And like, I don't think that I stole. I was like definitely like judging it up for the joke. Like I did, like I said, spend$500. Like I'm pretty sure I got everything. But if I didn't, I was thinking like, you know what? Well, that's what Target gets for making me. And I just want to say, I feel like we've had a lot of Wokies recently, like coming in the comments, like the showing for you go away. I didn't steal. It was a joke. Yeah. And if I did, that's on Target.

5:12Claudia Oshry:I went to Target. I am not a trained cashier. If Claudia like accidentally got away with one baby onesie after spending$500 at Target, like why do people, that's Target's problem. Wait, why do you work for Target?

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5:24Jackie Oshry:Do you work for Target? I mean, everyone coming for me like seriously? I don't know. I feel like we've strayed into like uncharted territories.

5:30Claudia Oshry:I just feel like that was like a bone that people just ran with, like not even the real ones.

5:34Jackie Oshry:Like I wasn't giving real ones. To be clear, like I'm pretty sure I didn't steal. And if I did, all I was saying was that's the self-checkout tax. Yeah.

5:43Claudia Oshry:And I do think they probably account for that like in their annual.

5:46Jackie Oshry:I went into the checkout process in an earnest manner. I was like, I plan to scan everything. If the machine and I aren't working on the same level, I didn't build this system.

5:59Claudia Oshry:Well, I sort of had the opposite experience. I went to Target yesterday inspired by you and it was everything that you said it was. I seriously could have bought everything.

6:06Jackie Oshry:I'm telling you, I know this is like not a new statement. It's an amazing place.

6:10Claudia Oshry:And I actually made money at the self-checkout machine. Why? You got a coupon? No, because something that I grabbed didn't have a tag or anything. Free. No, so I asked for help. And he, like, tried to scan it. And he couldn't. This is the way I think it. I don't know. Anyways, he was scanning it, looking it up. Everything. Couldn't find it. And he said, like, you got a$5 credit. Like, because for my time and my troubles. I think that's what happened.

6:34Jackie Oshry:Did you also get the free item?

6:35Claudia Oshry:Yeah, of course.

6:36Jackie Oshry:Wait, so you, like, double won.

6:37Claudia Oshry:I made money.

6:38Jackie Oshry:That's amazing. I know.

6:39Claudia Oshry:It was, like, a great. And then I also saw you posting affiliate links from your haul.

6:42Jackie Oshry:So like you really crushed it.

6:44Claudia Oshry:I need to go to Target every day. I need to go to Target, bring them kids. Was it a daycare? I went like later in the day. Nap time for the kids. It was more so like dinner time.

6:56Jackie Oshry:Oh, so it was like sort of like happy hour at Target.

6:58Claudia Oshry:Oh, it was happy hour and it was mighty happy.

7:01Jackie Oshry:So like to be clear, like the Target warriors lay off. Okay.

7:05Claudia Oshry:Leave Koji alone. As she said, she's going through a lot. She just had a baby.

7:09Jackie Oshry:I just had a baby a year ago. Okay.

7:12Claudia Oshry:like stop pregnancy brain nine months in nine months how did you guys not hear my beautiful speech last week it's like they they do and then everyone's like gay for turny but then it's like the next day they're not giving turny grace they're not it's just it's they forget they never are but we're not talking about like literally everyone who listens to the show because no like

7:28Jackie Oshry:it's so understanding and so full of love and joy love joy laughter spirit and positivity it's so

7:33Claudia Oshry:true the comment section sometimes like have me cry oh my god jaggy and i are always sending each

7:37Jackie Oshry:I feel like it's crazy that like, you know, like Jimmy Fallon got the job of like late night when like somebody in the comment section of our daily episodes are funnier. It is like the most pure, I'm belly laughing.

7:51Claudia Oshry:What's more like, it's good, but like, so like, I feel so stupid when like I post a picture and then like someone comments something that like, I should have fucking captioned it. Like yesterday I posted a selfie with my husband we took at in Palm Beach. And the caption obviously should have been sender will text message. Of course. And you forgot. Jackie, you just had a baby. And I was just like so excited that we took a selfie. Yeah, of course. I went into my phone to see the last time that we took a selfie together. Like both of us, without the kids, just like both of us made up, like the two of us taking a selfie.

8:20Claudia Oshry:And it was at a wedding we went to in March. We haven't taken a selfie together in a year. That's kind of crazy. We used to take one together every day. We would just be at brunch. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that is crazy. a year without selfies.

8:39Jackie Oshry:It's like a year without rain. Much like Selena Gomez, you know?

8:43Claudia Oshry:Yeah. When's the last time you and Ben took a selfie?

8:45Jackie Oshry:I actually take selfies of us quite a bit.

8:47Claudia Oshry:Just the two of you? Yeah. No Ruble? No Ruble. Michael Buble?

8:51Jackie Oshry:We don't take other photos, just selfies. That's like our issue. We have no like photos taken by a third, you know? Because it's literally just always us hanging out.

8:58Claudia Oshry:As the selfie camera continues to like zoom out. One day it'll give you like an arm extension.

9:03Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

9:04Claudia Oshry:um so maybe you won't have to confront that issue yeah but like I'm at a place in my you know

9:08Jackie Oshry:physical journey where I'm okay with like exclusive selfies like when I meet people on the street they're like is it okay if we take a selfie I'm like bitch I would prefer it like don't even be asking your friend don't be asking your mom like that makes me uncomfortable that's like sort of

9:18Claudia Oshry:fan interactions where I feel like Ben Platt you know yeah yeah no a selfie is always a good idea I forgot I used to like seriously take selfies all not that that's good either no that's not

9:28Jackie Oshry:good either but like the higher the angle the closer to God and yeah and with these new phones

9:33Claudia Oshry:Like you can zoom out on your selfie.

9:35Jackie Oshry:Apparently the Samsungs have been doing that for years. But again, like nobody knew that because it doesn't matter.

9:41Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Like they go underwater. You know, Samsung at first.

9:44Jackie Oshry:Samsungs are doing things that like iPhones will be doing in five years and will be like, this is amazing. And the Android users will be like, we've been shouting at you for five years that an Android could do this. An Android could literally cure cancer and I wouldn't buy it.

9:54Claudia Oshry:Go home green.

9:55Jackie Oshry:Go home green.

9:58Claudia Oshry:Also, Android does have a feature that I'm really waiting for iPhone to get. It's the one that we were talking about when you take like a bunch of photos, like especially with the kids and like all the kids are smiling in different pictures. There's not one where all are smiling. And Android has this feature where you can like take someone's face from the different shot. Yeah. And then you can make like a picture where everyone is smiling.

10:18Jackie Oshry:So I'm pretty sure that's not an Android feature. It's a Google phone feature. I don't know if Google phone is an Android or just like considered one of the lesser phones. Are all the lesser phones considered Androids?

10:27Claudia Oshry:No, Android is a brand.

10:29Jackie Oshry:Samsung.

10:30Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

10:30Jackie Oshry:Okay.

10:31Claudia Oshry:Yeah. also you know what's like a modern thing that like annoys me and like I wish we could come back from it but I don't know how we can like I hate when like you ask someone to take a picture and like you take 12 it's just like your impulse to take like if you were taking a picture of me

10:45Jackie Oshry:and you like yeah if you want to do a good job you take multiples but it's all the same picture

10:49Claudia Oshry:and like you don't know how to delete them because it's all like a good picture but like there's no just taking one picture anymore well yes yes I think the idea is like to give people

10:58Jackie Oshry:options but if you aren't moving in the photo yes i have 12 that's why when i take a picture i'm like this it looks like a stop motion video i'm like yeah but sometimes you could be off even when we take our daily photo i'm like this oh i don't move i'm like is this i'm moving arm chin jaw i'm like

11:16Claudia Oshry:but what if you're like i'm like britney spears in one of her dancing videos taking the camera because sometimes that happens that does happen but then it's on the person

11:22Jackie Oshry:taking the camera to move with me then you're like yes of course of course but if if you're truly a good photo taker you're moving with me you're working with me not against me okay but they might not be truly a good photo taker then just take one just take one i feel like let's get

11:35Claudia Oshry:back to just one okay two photos because sometimes i like to smile with teeth and sometimes without

11:38Jackie Oshry:teeth i like that variety that's why like most millennial women have like a hundred thousand photos in their camera roll because it's probably like 25 000 moments 10 times yeah that was the math on that shut up four times i said 100 000 and then 20 i would say it's probably 20 000 moments

11:58Claudia Oshry:average four to five times okay yeah i don't know like i know it's never going to go back to the way that it was but sometimes i'm like i just have the same picture in my phone over and over yeah and i don't know what's the best one they're like all the same different yeah so that's just like you know modern problems we need modern solutions which would be oh the galaxy phone literally google phone picture thing actually though the google phone picture thing requires you to take multiples yeah so the the modern problem is has a modern solution and then we end up with one good one one great photo all right we might have to get a google google phone yeah honestly we could get like a work one i love that i love that um we've got lots of stories today what are they good stories i watched southern charm last night i didn't know that was happening zach and i went to watch jfk love story but we were booted out of our hulu so as we can the family hulu yeah and i had been starting previously we were on zach's family hulu forever and then i got booted and i was like let me try a different family hulu let me try a different family like maybe like there's you know they've got they got touched by by corporate so i was like let me try ours because nobody complains about ours so i tried our family and i was on it for a couple weeks and now I've been booted and um I haven't heard of anyone getting booted from the Hulu though so I feel like it's starting okay it happened to me twice now and so we were contemplating like we need to make our own Hulu I don't feel like doing that right now let's see what's on YouTube TV I was going to finish the summer house that I didn't finish the night before and then I saw Southern Charm was recording and I was like oh I have been so I don't even know what day it's on because I've like been missing it every week um so we watched the episode and like everything I said last week like I don't see how Craig's the villain yet oh here we came

13:39Jackie Oshry:the villain okay listen we all have a role to play we all have a role to play there in mexico like

13:44Claudia Oshry:he's wasted and he's like yelling at everyone and being very crazy i just feel like no one's giving craig grace he just had a baby like no totally and i feel like no one is giving him grace like he just went through a breakup and like he is drinking more than he like drank previously like because he was only drinking like soft alcohol liquor like not hard and obviously he's like hitting the bottle and um like where his friends are just always yelling at him and it's like what What if you tried being there for him? And I'm so curious when in the season Craig came on this show because they started filming Southern Charm in like May or whatever.

14:18Claudia Oshry:Craig came on this show in June. He was talking about how it is the best season ever. Like it's getting back to the roots of it where it's like everyone's single. Everyone's having fun. They're on this trip in Mexico and like Craig and Charlie are, spoiler alert, like an item and Austin and Sally are like hooking up. And it's like really like that doesn't happen anymore. Because everybody's like getting outsourcing their relationships. And like, you know, you don't really get like cast hookups. So it's just fun. I get what Craig was saying. But did he come and say all that like before this, before like he became the villain of the season or after?

14:46Jackie Oshry:You probably didn't know that he was a villain.

14:47Claudia Oshry:No, I think he did. He's yelling. He's fighting with everyone. Yeah. But like that's just a day at work when you're a Southern Charm cast mate. Yeah. And everyone likes to talk badly about him in their confessionals too, which is like super brave. But I was just, I like would love to know. And like when he was talking about Charlie, he was like, you would love Charlie. And I want to know if they were an item. Right. He was just like, you know, being coy. Thinking about it. Right, right, right. Thinking about something. So Southern Charms stays winning, stays being the best show.

15:12Jackie Oshry:I didn't really watch TV last night. Like Ben was having like a medical episode.

15:16Claudia Oshry:Okay. I'm not going to ask further questions. I don't know if we want to know.

15:19Jackie Oshry:No, he's fine. Completely fine. He does believe he's still concussed.

15:23Claudia Oshry:Okay. Well, let's get into the stories without further ado, ado, ado, ado. Oh, right. I'm sorry. It is time for the Fast Five stories that you do need to know.

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19:46Claudia Oshry:You're the perfect face. Yeah. Our first story is very sad and shocking news.

19:50Jackie Oshry:Oh my God. I forgot about this.

19:52Claudia Oshry:Real Housewives of Salt Lake City star Mary Cosby's son, Robert Jr., has died at the age of 23. He was found dead after officers responded to an overdose call that turned into a death investigation on February 23rd. A Salt Lake City Police Department spokesperson confirmed to page six on Wednesday. Shortly after the news of her son's death broke, Mary spoke out saying she knows that he is finally at peace. She said, Our beloved son, Robert Jr., has been called home to the Lord. Though our hearts ache, we take comfort in God's promise and in knowing he is finally at peace. We are grateful for your prayers and trust in the Lord to carry us through this time of sorrow.

20:27Jackie Oshry:No, like this was so upsetting. I feel like we watched this whole situation unfold really quite quickly. I feel like we she I guess maybe it was happening longer, but we found out about it in that kind of like groundbreaking conversation maybe a year ago. and then at the reunion she was talking about how like he's in prison and honestly like as a mom she's kind of relieved because she knows he's like safe in there and for it to have escalated so quickly he just got out of prison like ah this is just like the worst possible ending to this story and then like this clip came across my TikTok just like I hadn't seen it when she was just like trying to get through to him it wasn't like the original conversation I think it was like later on and she was just talking about how like he's the best thing in her life and like she literally never experienced happiness until she had a son and like it was everything she ever wanted and all the happiness in her life like she gets from him it was just so I think that was in

21:19Claudia Oshry:the original conversation because that's what I watched in the season I watched at Salt Lake City and because he was saying that he like didn't want to be here anymore and she was like saying

21:27Jackie Oshry:like what a gift he was for her I feel so sad for her I feel so sad for her I hope she's okay I I really hope that like the network is giving her grace. Like I know in moments like this, like, you know, reality TV crews are like told to like, you know, capture it all. I do know that they've halted filming. Like cameras went down yesterday, but like she needs time. Like seriously leave her alone. Like I hope unless she's like dying to film, which I can't imagine that she is. I just hope they really give her like all the grace imaginable. This is so sad. Like I could not believe what I was reading.

21:57Jackie Oshry:And I'd been following the saga for like a year or two. So like I knew that it was happening, but I just did not expect this to be the ending. And I had heard that he had just gotten out of prison. So I feel so like seriously heartbroken for her. I can only imagine what she's going through right now. And I feel like she's not a person who like lets people in. I don't feel like she has like a lot of people in her life to lean on in a time like this. She has a kind of a kind of like an untraditional marriage. Like I don't find like I just never I don't get the vibe that they like lean on one another.

22:25Claudia Oshry:We also don't know that much about it. So we really don't know.

22:28Jackie Oshry:I just feel like I don't know who she's leaning on in this moment. and like I just really hope she has people around her because like this can be.

22:34Claudia Oshry:Well, she's close with Angie now.

22:35Jackie Oshry:Yeah, but like real close or like TV close? Real close. Okay.

22:38Claudia Oshry:Like she's TV friends with like Meredith. Like, you know, she has like friends, she's friendlier with like people on the show, but like I think her and Angie like unexpectedly formed like a really close friendship.

22:47Jackie Oshry:You need people like around you in moments like this because if you're alone, like you're not going to be okay.

22:51Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

22:51Jackie Oshry:I feel really sad. Me too. I seriously like I will think about her and pray for her. Like I feel really, really sad for her.

22:57Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

22:58Jackie Oshry:What a crazy saga.

23:01Claudia Oshry:I just honestly I can't believe it to be how it ends like terrible like feels like such a short

23:07Jackie Oshry:amount of time like yeah since we found out about it I don't know how much longer it was going on prior to that yeah but seriously just like leave Mary alone like if she never wants to come back

23:18Claudia Oshry:to the show like just leave her alone I think everyone will do whatever she wants you know everyone like will rally behind her I really believe that okay good um I really hope she's

23:27Jackie Oshry:Okay.

23:27Claudia Oshry:Yeah, me as well. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. One of our favorite subjects. What? Breastfeeding and combo feeding. Hillary Duff is on Call Her Daddy, and she was talking about how she could still -

23:41Jackie Oshry:I'm cracking up that I saw so many things coming out of this interview, like the Lindsay Lohan thing, the Ashley Tisdale thing, but Jackie chose the breastfeeding one.

23:48Claudia Oshry:She talked about her struggles with breastfeeding and combo feeding and supplementing, and I felt it to be so relatable. That's so funny. I didn't even see it. I always do wonder, especially when I first had Harry and I was breastfeeding and I was having such a hard time, like I really became obsessed with like knowing which celebrities breastfed. Like how do people do it? It's so hard. Right. And so I love when people talk about it, especially when it's like they have something new to add to the conversation. So she said she could still cry thinking about breastfeeding struggles and admit she was stubborn about combo feeding.

24:17Claudia Oshry:Right. Even like with her fourth when you like think like you know what you're doing and it gets easier. She had a tired time. I did also choose the Lindsay Lohan thing. Oh, OK. It was more so like Hillary making a song. Right, right, right, right. But to me, like that was the best conversation. And what did she say about Ashley Tisdale?

24:33Jackie Oshry:She just said she was talking about like Matthew Coma chiming in and like the whole saga. She just said she felt really sad for like the group of women who were like being slandered when like that really wasn't the truth. And then Alex was like, when your man chimed in, like. And they made it seem like he did it without Hillary's warning, you know. And that's warning. Sorry. Approval. of what did you make of that? And she was like, he's just so funny. It was kind of like a weird response. I feel like she didn't really add a lot because the internet, like she came out a hero on that. The internet handled it for her.

25:04Jackie Oshry:It wouldn't be wise if her to like say more or do more. Like let's be really happy with how this ended. She came out looking like a hero. Ashley is the loser. She's the winner. So she didn't like go there. She was very political about it, which I think was wise because if you get, like if we reopen it, it could only get bad for her. And like you want to win gracefully. Yeah, no, it was very smart. And I don't think she's like a catty person. So I think that was like her natural inclination just to like move on from it. And then she also talked about like her beef with Lindsay Lohan.

25:32Claudia Oshry:Yeah. She talked about crashing the red carpet at the Freaky Friday premiere. Oh. And how Lindsay Lohan was her childhood nemesis. So like of course she did that. And then she wasn't surprised when like Lindsay came to the Cheaper by the Dozen premiere. But like Chad Michael Verge had invited Lizzie Hillary to the premiere of Freaky Friday. So she wasn't like totally a crasher, but she knew that Lindsay and her, like, were not getting them.

25:53Jackie Oshry:They were just like upstaging one another. And Lindsay went to the cheaper by the dozen for me.

25:55Claudia Oshry:Because of Aaron Carter.

25:57Jackie Oshry:That's insane. Like, that's so crazy. I feel like, also, you know what I want to talk about is Sophia Franklin's book announcement. I was scrolling through the likes. And actually Dumas posted about it today, which I was, like, this is niche internet drama that I'm so curious about. Like, who liked the announcement on Sophia's Instagram? Let me find it. because of course Alex Earl liked it, which I feel like it shouldn't be surprising. Like we know they hate it. Like we know Alex hates Alex.

26:23Claudia Oshry:Like just, okay. I mean, no, Alex hates Alex. Licks versus Licks. And as far as I know,

26:27Jackie Oshry:Alex Earl and Sophia Franklin don't have a relationship. So it's not like I'm supporting you in your project. Like I don't even know if they've met. Like, yeah.

26:35Claudia Oshry:Who else? But not everyone who liked it means that they have beef with Alex Cooper. Like you can just support two business women. Yes.

26:42Jackie Oshry:But my thing is that I don't believe there's any relationship between Alex Earl.

26:47Claudia Oshry:I think Earl liking it means something, but I'm saying everybody else.

26:50Jackie Oshry:No, everyone else. Like, I don't think, like, Emma Ledger, you know, like, the people that I follow, I don't think Emma Ledger or Brooke Michio have a problem. But Ashton Earl liked it, too. I don't think Ashton knows Sophia. Of course. You know what I thought was interesting was that Paige DeSorbo liked it. And I feel like, I don't know if Paige DeSorbo and Sophia Franklin, like, have a friendship. I mean, they're both New Yorkers, so maybe it's just, like, you know, women supporting women. Industry women. Paige is a very supportive woman, like, of other women. but I feel like Paige and Alex Cooper have beef because they were like hot and heavy for a minute remember like they went on the podcast a bunch of times Hannah and Alex and especially no and I think Hannah's good with Alex Cooper like because she was just on promoting her comedy special so she's been on twice but like around the time of Alex's Spotify deal was like the very last time Paige ever went on and now I don't know why I've like always thought that maybe there was beef between them and now her liking this I might just be starting stuff I don't know I don't know it's

27:40Claudia Oshry:It's impossible to know because like the way people beef these days is a cold war. Yeah. You know, nothing ever gets hot.

27:48Jackie Oshry:Right. Right. I just thought it was interesting.

27:50Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But like I liked it. I have no horse in this race. No, I liked it too. Well, I liked it because I know. People could say, well, we liked it. Right. I was supporting a friend. I liked it too, you know. A lot of people can be supporting a friend. It doesn't mean that they're taking any side.

28:06Jackie Oshry:Mm-hmm. I just want to check one thing. Just don't mind me.

28:08Claudia Oshry:Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.

28:12Jackie Oshry:Why does my phone freeze?

28:13Claudia Oshry:Is Instagram down? I've been having Instagram glitch yesterday. I tried to talk to people about it, but they weren't experiencing it.

28:21Jackie Oshry:You were barking at my tree, and I was like, girl, we're taking problems elsewhere.

28:25Claudia Oshry:It's still happening for me. When I go to upload a story or a photo, my most recent images are from July, and they're all over the place. I scroll down, then it's December. It's just all over the place. That's what I'm dealing with.

28:38Jackie Oshry:That's a lot. I'm sorry.

28:39Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but I figured out a way around it because I still needed to post content. Okay, sorry. I was looking up something, but I figured out. Your theory?

28:44Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Well, I wanted to see if Paige DeSorbo followed Sophia Franklin, and she does. Because if she did it, I'd be like, oh, you went out of your way to like this photo.

28:51Claudia Oshry:Because Alex Earl.

28:52Jackie Oshry:Follow Sophia?

28:53Claudia Oshry:Mm-hmm.

28:53Jackie Oshry:Well, maybe they followed her like yesterday. Do you know what I mean?

28:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah.

28:56Jackie Oshry:Let me see if Alex Earl does. She definitely does.

28:58Claudia Oshry:I miss the following tab.

29:01Jackie Oshry:Same. Bring back the following tab.

29:02Claudia Oshry:I know. Like tea. There would be so much tea that way.

29:07Jackie Oshry:There would be. Alex Earl does not follow Sophia Franklin, so she went out of her way to go to someone's page and like it. Okay. Okay. So that's shady. That is shady. Yeah.

29:16Claudia Oshry:And it was always shady, you know? It was always shady.

29:19Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no, I might just be making stuff up with the page stuff.

29:20Claudia Oshry:And I think everyone else probably just wants to support Sophia.

29:24Jackie Oshry:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just like, I have thought for a while that maybe there was beef between them, because they were sort of hot and heavy, publicly swirling it up, and then it kind of died down. But then Hannah still got involved. So I feel like if maybe Hannah likes someone, they're good.

29:37Claudia Oshry:People get busy.

29:38Jackie Oshry:Yeah, of course. Different, you know, you live different places. Of course, of course. It's hard to keep in touch. Just a theory I'm putting out there. Sorry if that makes me toxic. Uh, I don't think so.

29:49Claudia Oshry:No. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Some exciting casting reboot news. Emma Roberts will star in a Bride Wars movie reimagination for TV in development at Peacock. So a new TV series that reimagines the 2009 film Bride Wars is in development at Peacock with Emma Roberts set to star and executive produce through her Bellatrix production company, which did produce Tell Me Lies. So it has a 10 out of 10 track record. Yeah, when we talk about like celebrity book clubs

30:17Jackie Oshry:and like the Reese Witherspoon model, we don't talk enough about Emma Roberts. Like she started like a very swirly millennial book club many, many years ago before it was like really popular to do books.

30:27Claudia Oshry:It's actually not even that swirly. It's very like serious. Intellectual, yeah.

30:31Jackie Oshry:It's very intellectual. It's called Bellatrix. And then I guess she turned it into a production company. was Tell Me Lies her first project or it was the first one of note

30:38Claudia Oshry:I think it was probably the first one because we would note anything that she did she's crushing it one of one Deltris Productions

30:51Claudia Oshry:First Kill on Netflix and Tell Me Lies okay so she's one for two but maybe First Kill hasn't oh no it came out in 2022 okay but you gotta get your feet wet and she made it to Netflix that's a success yeah totally um so now oh bride wars bride wars and she'll be like using her production company is she gonna be kate hudson or the or ann she's blonde but she's also brunette and she's also yeah right but it was like it's very much a movie about hair color yeah so it depends which hair color she'll choose i'm

31:20Jackie Oshry:hesitant because bride wars is a perfect film and i'd like to thank the good old folks at dry bar for like keeping it in the zeitgeist because like i've seen bride wars probably 20 times and 19 of them have been while getting my hair blown out of bread at a dry bar um i love that movie i love that genre of movie that was just like such a simple time you know i feel like the film is really a love letter to new york in the plaza like it's really beautiful um and the concept is like funny and sort of timeless right like you know two girls get the same wedding date so actually

31:47Claudia Oshry:they're they're changing it up a little bit so set against the charming backdrop of north carolina bride wars the tv series follows a big sitting wedding planner emma roberts whose arrival in a small town sparks an epic showdown with the beloved local planner as the two women battle to plan the same wedding their rivalry quickly escalates into a larger clash over friendship community ultimately love so it's just really like the plan loosely based on planners are fighting

32:11Jackie Oshry:right at least they're changing it a lot because like bride wars is perfect and it should remain untouched but if you want to like extrapolate a separate storyline from it it really doesn't

32:17Claudia Oshry:even sound like it's based on bride wars it's giving heart of dixie what about it like she's the big city doctor who came down to a small town and had to. Oh, and she was like competing with,

32:28Jackie Oshry:yeah, with the local. It's a good analogy. Bride of Dixie.

32:35Claudia Oshry:Um, okay. You know? Yeah, sure. No, I'm not going to complain about things like this. No, you know, it does. Someone out there is thinking of me.

32:43Jackie Oshry:It does bear just like bringing up the timeless conversation about how like nobody can create anything original anymore. Like everything is based on something. Everything's a reboot or recreation or renew renewal reunion. But this does feel a little bit more creative and inspired than some of the other reboots we've...

32:58Claudia Oshry:And it's good subject matter to be pulling from, you know?

33:01Jackie Oshry:Yes, it's such a good movie. Like Kate Hudson's bangs. And actually, like, the star power in that film... Chris Pratt. That was a Chris Pratt's launching pad. Like, I know people say... What do people say was his launching pad? But, like, it is that movie. And who's the other husband? John Krasinski? Is it? And then the brother. It's a star-studded movie.

33:22Claudia Oshry:I think it's John Krasinski.

33:22Jackie Oshry:Or I might be confusing Something Borrowed. IMDb, Brideworks.

33:25Claudia Oshry:No, but that's the other guy. John Krasinski's in Something Blue. Yeah.

33:29Jackie Oshry:Something Borrowed, excuse me.

33:30Claudia Oshry:He's a friend who loves her.

33:31Jackie Oshry:And he's the love interest in the sequel.

33:34Claudia Oshry:Interesting.

33:35Jackie Oshry:Okay. Kate Hudson and Hathaway. Candace Bergen is the plaza. Brian Greenberg. You know him from How to Make It in America. He's one of the husbands. Yes, he is. Chris Pratt. And Steve Howie. Is the brother. Oh, he's the brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he's also in Something Borrowed. Show me him.

33:53Claudia Oshry:That doesn't look like the brother. I feel like the casting director. No, that's the husband of Kate Hudson. So who's Brian Greenberg?

34:00Jackie Oshry:The brother? That's the brother, I think. I feel like the same casting director for Something Borrowed was the same casting director for this movie. Just because it gives such similar vibes. Kristen Johnson, our queen. She's the woman who fell out of the window in Sex and the City. She plays the best friend at the school, right? Yep, yep. Such a good movie. Some of these people don't look familiar to me.

34:22Claudia Oshry:She should star in a sequel of Bad Teacher. They should remake Bad Teacher, my favorite movie.

34:29Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I need to watch Bride Wars again. Like, that's the takeaway here.

34:33Claudia Oshry:Okay. Good. You have your homework.

34:35Jackie Oshry:I'm just, like, following a theory. Except tonight is the Traders finale. Okay. The casting director was Marsha Debonis and Jennifer Houston. And then the casting director for something. Borrowed. They're both movies that are cast like very well. Okay, 100 % wrong.

34:53Claudia Oshry:I think it was just like the time.

34:54Jackie Oshry:I'm glad we followed my theory. I think it was the time.

34:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah. Those were the go-tos. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Four.

35:02Jackie Oshry:I feel like I'm not, but it feels like kind of crazy to not be ready.

35:05Claudia Oshry:No, I think you're not ready. Oh, okay. And then you'll get ready. Okay. Ballerina Far Hannah Nealman reveals she's pregnant with baby number nine.

35:15Jackie Oshry:Okay, this shouldn't be shocking

35:16Claudia Oshry:I'm sorry this is shocking

35:18Jackie Oshry:No she literally when she was doing press Before she was like scarred by the times The Sunday times or whatever She they asked which I thought Was such an inappropriate question They asked her and Daniel that in that turnt interview What their thoughts are on birth control And they did answer being like We don't use birth control like if God wants To bestow another child upon us like then He shall and I guess God bestowed Because she's pregnant Wow apparently and I Saw people talking about this on TikTok this morning Like if you live in the area, like it wasn't a secret. Like she takes her daughter to ballet class and like she's fully pregnant.

35:51Jackie Oshry:Yeah, she runs the store. For a really long time. So they think like the announcement means like perhaps she's even given birth.

35:56Claudia Oshry:Oh my God.

35:57Jackie Oshry:That's just what like a theory on Utah talk was talking about.

36:00Claudia Oshry:That would be amazing if she was able to like have a totally private pregnancy being like a huge influencer.

36:04Jackie Oshry:And people like in her town and her community like respecting that. Not like selling it to Dumois.

36:09Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

36:10Jackie Oshry:Although I don't think this is the type of news like Dumois covers.

36:12Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you can go and tell a friend. But, you know, at the end of the day, it's just like the lady is pregnant. The announcement was also very low key. And it was in like their new farmer protein.

36:22Jackie Oshry:So she said they did like this very beautiful movie about, you know, when you think of ballerinas, you think grace, you think elegance, you think poise. But what you don't think strength. And then it turns black and white. It's like showing all the muscles of the ballerina and how they like need protein. Yeah. And then she like walks away with her belly. Yeah. No, not even walks away. Like it wasn't a grand reveal in like the 11th second. She just walks into the room where they're doing ballet and she's pregnant. Like it was so low key. I love it. And I feel like good marketing, of course, for their ballerina protein.

36:52Jackie Oshry:Barmer protein. Nine kids like pop off heroic queen. Insane. You know, obviously it's a lot of kids like that needs to be mentioned, but that's her joy. Like I don't think I could ever do it, but I'm certainly not here to yuck someone's yums when it comes to how many children they want to have.

37:10Claudia Oshry:No. And it's like if you can do it.

37:13Jackie Oshry:if you physically can do it and they have the money like a lot of you know how many kids you want to have like is predicated by your financial situation they seem to be doing quite fine um so yeah do it it's awesome it's crazy um her content like i'm like i i really i hate to be one of those people because like i hate when it's like you have to tell us like how many nannies do you have and how many house but i do wonder if she has a housekeeper because like she's making so many dishes just to make a smoothie.

37:43Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And she has to boil everything

37:45Jackie Oshry:and the kids are just so fucking messy.

37:46Claudia Oshry:It's like, but just make yourself. Yeah, no, but do you see her six-year-old made a loaf of sourdough? I did. I made you watch that. I did. The six-year-old did a whole sourdough from like starter, which if you made sourdough, like that's insane.

37:59Jackie Oshry:She also made a beet smoothie with beets from their garden and she had to boil the beets. Like there were so many. These are really messy. So many dishes involved. There was at least one Dutch oven, a couple of mason jars, bowls, whisks, blenders. And then, of course, it was an ad for the part farmer protein because she made like a protein smoothie. I was exhausted watching her make the smoothie.

38:22Claudia Oshry:She also has older kids. I'm sure that they help with like cleaning and chores. They better. They seem to really have it like a nice system. They help on the farm.

38:29Jackie Oshry:Do you notice they've been traveling a lot ever since the like, you know, you're being kidnapped by your husband and he didn't take you to Greece allegations. They travel now like all the time with all the kids.

38:36Claudia Oshry:No, I only saw when they like lived in Ireland.

38:38Jackie Oshry:No, because she just posted about their trip. They were gone for a month. Where'd they go? Where did they go? Like Scotland, like a bunch of places. Sweden or like the Netherlands, somewhere in like. It wasn't part of Ireland? No, no, I know that trip. But then she just posted, oh, and didn't share that we got back from our trip. And they went to like that area. Do you know what I mean? Like Swedish, Sweden, Netherlands area. What's that area called?

39:03Claudia Oshry:I don't know.

39:04Jackie Oshry:It starts with an N, I feel like. Netherlands? No, no.

39:08Claudia Oshry:it's like what's that region nordic nordic nordic region yeah i think they went there that's so sweet i don't think that she her pregnant oh they also fly coach i just want to say that her pregnant self and her eight kids are traveling just like prove a point to the internet i don't

39:21Jackie Oshry:know i feel like they weren't traveling a lot before that article uh that was such a crazy

39:25Claudia Oshry:time that was a crazy time no i think that you know she's gonna ballerina's gonna rain rena's gonna rain no i'm like really exhausted just thinking about that like but you know what's

39:34Jackie Oshry:crazy about them is that like they live like on a homestead so they don't like and they homeschool so like you know we don't get like paparazzi pictures of her we don't even get like people in their town being like look I saw ballerina farm at the ice cream shop so I would love to see them like in the wild and the fact that they got on like a commercial flight like is so crazy to me like why isn't there a picture do you know what I mean I can't you know they do fly coach I can't imagine them like to me they feel Amish and so like you know Amish people don't use modern

40:01Claudia Oshry:in the modern world.

40:02Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it's like, and they dress kind of Amish too. So like, I don't know, I feel like seeing them on an airplane would break my brain. And I need to see a picture. Yeah.

40:13Claudia Oshry:Well, I hope she's relaxing as much as she can. Of course, of course. And taking it easy and not traveling just to prove something to the internet.

40:20Jackie Oshry:I'm telling you, I feel like the internet has something to do with it. Stay home.

40:23Claudia Oshry:I feel like the internet has something to do with it. Stay home, Rainer. Yeah.

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43:13Claudia Oshry:Thank you, ForTurt. You're welcome. Our fifth and final story, and then we have a bonus story. Bill Gates confesses to cheating on his ex-wife Melinda with two women during their 27-year marriage. Oh my god, like seriously, justice for Melinda Gates. So Bill Gates like gave a town hall to his foundation. Oh, you know, I saw like a story about this and I didn't read it. So he talked, he like copped to two affairs while he was married and then also like apologized for being associated with Jeffrey. Though he never saw anything untoward happen with Jeffrey. He admitted on Tuesday to his foundation that he did have affairs with two Russian women during their 27 year marriage.

43:49Jackie Oshry:I would like seriously feel so awkward. Like I just went to work and my boss is like up on the stage, like telling me his deep, dark secrets. Like I'm all set. Justice for like the women, I'm sorry, everyone, honestly, who had to just like go to work that day. Like they have things going on in their lives. And like, why is this?

44:05Claudia Oshry:Like, this is so inappropriate. He told his staffers, quote, one was a Russian bridge player who met me at bridge events. And one was a Russian nuclear physicist who I met through business activities.

44:17Jackie Oshry:No, this is so much information. I feel so weird and I wasn't even there.

44:21Claudia Oshry:He also apologized to his staff members for his ties to convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Well, that's good. He notably insisted that he did nothing illicit and saw nothing illicit while traveling in the U.S. abroad with Epstein. To be clear, I never spent any time with the victims, the women around him, he claimed to his staff. He went on to give his wife credit, saying Melinda was always kind of skeptical about the Epstein thing. Oh. Mm-hmm. but he insists that you know all was kosher I feel like Melinda Gates has really been

44:54Jackie Oshry:what's the word I'm looking for vindicated

44:55Claudia Oshry:yeah

44:56Jackie Oshry:because like she was always getting looped in with her husband right and you know when you're like that wealthy like people do like theorize about you all the time a lot of times it like means nothing but she was like always the gates the gates the gates and then she was like fuck this now it's just like bill bill bill you can't even like be loyal to me and I'm over here like being called a pedophile for you yeah so I love that she got out and she don't give a fuck like she was just giving an interview like she's not holding back um I think this is like so crazy to like tell at work where was HR feels like definitely crossing a line I feel like everyone else that's in the Epstein files like at to a certain point is just sort of like you know backing away from like positions

45:31Claudia Oshry:they're resigning Peter T.L.F. CBS News like they're either being fired or they're just like quietly going into the dark like you know that because that's like the thing to do and Bill he won't go down with this ship right you know like he has a sound like he's not gonna go quietly he's not gonna go period right same with Casey Wasserman he we talked about that and he said like he refuses

45:51Jackie Oshry:to leave his own company but he's now putting his company up for sale I think he thinks that's like a fair way for him to like not have to like give up what he worked for and for all the clients to like be happy that he's gone I don't know who bought it it's kind of like a sinking ship like I wouldn't

46:05Claudia Oshry:like you get a great price so after we spoke about it like I was reading a little bit more about Casey Wasserman and it's like there's not really a smoking gun there no it's very circumstantial

46:14Jackie Oshry:yeah so like if I'm Casey Wasserman and I really believe that I didn't do anything like why would I sell my or why would I leave my company that I created an emission of guilt it is that's true

46:23Claudia Oshry:a guilty person would do that's true and if you didn't do that shit like you don't deserve to have your whole life's work taken from you that's true like you don't see Prince Andrew like uh

46:33Jackie Oshry:defending himself yeah right right I don't know um I obviously like I don't follow Bill Gates like I I don't use Microsoft like a Gates Foundation swirly I don't even know what they do so like sorry that happened um thanks for sharing and I feel weird so thanks for that I'm like justice

46:57Claudia Oshry:for Melinda like justice for motherfucking Melinda he is such a big character in the files and everybody else who's a big character in the files really has like quietly just gone yeah escaped um but if he wants to keep working like he does have to address it but does it does he need to keep working it's my understanding he sold his company he doesn't need to keep working he's a billionaire right so like wants to keep working and like he he's like you know he likes being like a billionaire man of the world yeah so if he wants to still be like on stages and stuff and talking and people like you have to just address the Epstein elephant in the room.

47:31Claudia Oshry:And he did his best. Axel Dumois would never. No, Axel Dumois would never. Never. So this is, so that's that for Bill.

47:41Jackie Oshry:So thanks for sharing. Oh, yeah. Our bonus story. And I feel like the details that he gave about his mistresses were really unnecessary. Bridge.

47:52Claudia Oshry:Like, okay, thanks. Our fifth, our bonus story is news that we'll be sharing every week because it's very pertinent to our situation, and that is a masked singer unmasked. Oh, yes, please. Keep me abreast. The masked singer revealed the identity of Snow Cone. I knew this one. Not Pug Caso. But we'll talk about Pug. Heidi Montag was unmasked as Snow Cone last night on The Masked Singer.

48:16Jackie Oshry:So this was the first person I knew because I heard her recording. Okay. And what's so funny is that when I was in L.A., I DMed Spencer because I was booking for your maternity leave. And I was like, would you come on? And he was like, I'm so busy. I'm in Santa Barbara. I can't. And I feel like, well, yeah, he was probably like holding down the fort. Yeah. While Heidi. Or he just didn't want to come on. But I think it's the other.

48:45Claudia Oshry:I feel like he would want to come on.

48:46Jackie Oshry:And he's been on many times. Yeah.

48:47Claudia Oshry:He was busy holding it down while Heidi was the snow cone.

48:49Jackie Oshry:I had no idea.

48:50Claudia Oshry:You guys could have recorded backstage.

48:52Jackie Oshry:Little did we know. It could have been so easy.

48:55Claudia Oshry:You were adjoining trailers. She made it really far. Yes, she did. How many more people are there? I don't know. A lot. A lot. So we need to talk about Pug Caso because more information has been released. More information has been released.

49:05Jackie Oshry:The Pug Caso files have been released.

49:08Claudia Oshry:You guys, it seems like Pug Caso is Phillip Phillips, which is insane. Like we couldn't be bigger fans of his. We're always talking about him organically.

49:16Jackie Oshry:I feel so much better, you know, because like obviously I have a chip on my shoulder like I lost. I think I'm the best singer ever. And the first time I compete with someone like I lose, but you can't sing, right? I was up against the winner of American Idol on a singing competition show. Oh, and also one of the greatest performers of our time, literally wrote the best song of our generation, Home. I don't feel bad in the slightest. The fact that I almost won and Jenny McCarthy said to me offline, she was like, I couldn't believe you lost your head on whatever it was called, battle. I feel great.

49:46Claudia Oshry:So now can I share my truth? What? Which is that I really like Pug Caso.

49:52Jackie Oshry:I love the version of Ordinary that he sang. It reminded me of a lot of the Luke Holmes version.

49:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Well, like I said last week, like before we thought it was Philip Phillips and we were like Anthony Ramones, Court Overstreet, whatever. I said like, I'm like really obsessed with Pudcasto and you were, I would hurt you that I was saying that. You were like standing my op, as the kids say. I was standing your op. Now can I stand your op in peace because it's Philip Phillips? Yeah.

50:15Jackie Oshry:And like we know Philip's heart and he's like a good guy.

50:17Claudia Oshry:We know Philip like offline.

50:19Jackie Oshry:Yeah. When I tell you there aren't, there isn't another caring, more generous, talented individual We don't know him, but like. And you were right that him making that TikTok about us was definitely like a network endorsed. Clue.

50:32Claudia Oshry:Easter egg. But we spoke about Philip Phillips once before. Remember? It's like part of our. Yeah, lore. Lore. We spoke about him and like his wife told him.

50:41Jackie Oshry:We're always speaking really positive. I feel good about like having been in the same room. Because a lot of times like we say things about people on the podcast and then I'm like near them and I need to die. Like it's horrible. Yeah. I have no qualms. I have only said amazing positive things because I believe. And you know one of the best concerts that I ever went to was John Mayer at the Barclays Center and who opened up for him? Philip Phillips on the release of his debut album, which at the time I was obsessed with like it couldn't have been a better concert.

51:02Claudia Oshry:And don't you think Pug Casso started with a P is like Philip Phillips because he's.

51:07Jackie Oshry:Let's also think about the name Pug. Like how is he? I guess I don't know a lot about him personally, but art and dogs like must be big symbols of his life.

51:17Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but the P I think we got to focus on the P. But I guess a Queen Corgi Claudia. I never even put that together

51:24Jackie Oshry:Snow Cone Heidi Montag And what's the meaning Of Snow Cone Like where's the clues Oh

51:31Claudia Oshry:There was some stuff in the article Well sometimes they just need to give you a fucking costume You know And it's like you figure It's not that deep Yeah right We'll do the clue package Yeah yeah yeah You know what I mean Like everything Like we can do everything

51:43Jackie Oshry:Right

51:47Claudia Oshry:Snow Cone in her final appearance Alluded to the loss of her home with her husband Oh right She said the Spice Girls took over the world with girl power and left a legacy for generations to come.

51:56Jackie Oshry:Because it was Spice Girls Night. Oh, and now we can say that I was prepping for Spice Girls Night. Little did everyone know I was planning on leaving the show. And they were asking what I wanted to sing. And actually, I was kind of freaking out because, like, while I love the Spice Girls, like, their discography is not, like, singable. You know, it's like, um, giving you. And then Jackie had the great idea that we should sing Mama. Because, like, obviously. Because she just had a fucking baby. Literally. And at the time, I really did just have a baby. And I was, like, practicing in my dressing room.

52:26Jackie Oshry:It's kind of, like, a really hard. It's, like, they don't, they're not, like, slay singers, you know? It was more about, like, the choreography, the vibe, the hair, the makeup, the glam, and, like, the girl power of it all. The songs are not, like, slayable ballads. It's, like, hard to vocally slay.

52:39Claudia Oshry:Do you want to give us a preview of what we missed?

52:44Jackie Oshry:Mama, I love you. Mama, I care. that's like the only part of the song that I know do you know more mama I love you I love you

52:59Claudia Oshry:who sings that song I care yeah I can't remember

53:08Claudia Oshry:anyways I'm rooting for Pug Caso

53:10Jackie Oshry:I can come out with my truth yeah I am too now that I know like it was like only right that I lost like it's fine when I thought it was Cordova Street. I'm like, really? Glee.

53:20Claudia Oshry:Anthony Ramos, really?

53:21Jackie Oshry:Hamilton? Yeah, right. That I would have been fine with. But like, it's okay. I am healed.

53:27Claudia Oshry:Well, thank goodness for that. We will keep your abreast weekly. Yeah, I love it. It's like we have a serious stake in this show. And I'm so curious. Snowcone, like you had said, like Heidi Montag was snowcone. I knew that. I heard her singing at rehearsal. But it's confirmation. It's confirmation.

53:42Jackie Oshry:And she has a very distinct voice. And she also has music out. And it was like the perfect timing because I remember like at the time that that we all got cast like Heidi and Spencer were really having a moment they got that Hulu show and of course the fires and like everyone was rallying around them specifically her music was researching so I knew it was her the second I walked into the soundstage and like they don't let you see anyone but I heard and I was like oh that's literally my good friend Heidi yeah um so

54:04Claudia Oshry:I'm excited for to find out one that like we don't have a clue yeah yeah um so that's your

54:09Jackie Oshry:best singer recap that's your show anything else you want to chat about before we go no I feel like

54:13Claudia Oshry:That's it. We have a big day today. Like classic stuff. Jackson Claude. We're going to film something exciting. Yes, we are. And your blog is up. Oh, my blog is up. My field trip with Zach. So fun. We went to Palm Beach. We saw some fabulous interiors. We just had a great time. We did a little bong. We took a selfie. Pura Vida. Don't you feel like Pura Vida is taking over the world?

54:33Jackie Oshry:Yeah. The ones in New York are like so popular.

54:35Claudia Oshry:Everyone who comes to Florida, they're like that. Pura Vida. Pura Vida.

54:38Jackie Oshry:Yeah. It's kind of been like insane for tourism.

54:41Claudia Oshry:It's insane, period. It's so good. Like shout out Pura Vida. Things you did. Things you did that. That's where like quality matters.

54:48Jackie Oshry:Like the cream rises. Because you don't have any like deli sandwich salad places there are. No one's talking about them on a global level.

54:56Claudia Oshry:No. No one's living in the Vida Pura. Living the Pura Vida.

55:02Jackie Oshry:Living the Pura Vida. All right. So that's I guess like our show. Yes. It's like so crazy.

55:10Claudia Oshry:It's such sweet sorrow.

55:11Jackie Oshry:It's so crazy when we do an episode under an hour.

55:13Claudia Oshry:We can keep going.

55:14Jackie Oshry:Just for the sake of it?

55:16Claudia Oshry:No, not for the sake.

55:17Jackie Oshry:Because yesterday we accidentally did an hour and 20 minute episode and it wasn't even. Yeah, right. And so sometimes we come in under an hour and I feel like I didn't accomplish what I needed to accomplish for the day. Okay, so let's keep going.

55:26Claudia Oshry:But not just for the sake of it.

55:28Jackie Oshry:We have to say interesting things.

55:29Claudia Oshry:Is there any more anecdote that you wanted to share?

55:32Jackie Oshry:Let me look through my camera roll. See what I did yesterday.

55:35Claudia Oshry:That's such a good idea.

55:37Jackie Oshry:I got new Mahjong tiles, which I was excited about.

55:39Claudia Oshry:And we are Mahjong today.

55:40Jackie Oshry:And we're going to use my new tiles from Bespoke Mahjong.

55:43Claudia Oshry:You went to Target, as you all know.

55:45Jackie Oshry:Oh, Spritz is launching something kind of major. And Ben got the first samples from me yesterday. He says it's going to seriously change the beverage industry. He was walking around drinking it. He was getting drunk in the middle of the day. I said, that's not good for your migraine.

55:57Claudia Oshry:I tried a sample. Did you know that? Oh, did you see I spilled blueberries at Target? I did see that you saw. It was really upsetting. I put them in my cart and they fell out through the hole of the children's seat. And they all fell on the floor. and like I had to pick them all up. That's humiliating. And like I got like lightheaded from like upside down. And it was just. I'm sorry. It was just. It threatened to ruin my trip but it didn't. That's good. That's all. So really I feel like that's all.

56:23Jackie Oshry:Thank you so much for listening to the toast. Tomorrow's Friday. Oh my God. So underrated.

56:27Claudia Oshry:And that's a reason to rejoice. Satchi's coming to town. Satchi's coming to town.

56:32Jackie Oshry:Satchi Lou is coming to town. Satchi Lou is coming to town. Satcheloo is coming to town And with that The 2026 Yes Do people know that we know him? Oh my god, Jackie, we've told that story 10 times That's like seriously my claim to fame Yeah, like we went to middle school with the guy who makes those songs Whose voice that is And with that The 2026 season comes to an end

56:58Claudia Oshry:In a sky And it's a sky full of stars You know, I had my first kiss at his bar mitzvah

57:06Jackie Oshry:Wait like the Lord wait we've told how many times that we know Sammy Levitt the guy but you've never told that story where was his bar mitzvah

57:14Claudia Oshry:at a temple okay and I just that was my first kiss because he was the oldest I guess I was very fast so he was like the first he was the first bar mitzvah because he's a little old for the grade yeah so you were like kind of slutty so I was very fast and who was your first kiss

57:27Jackie Oshry:yeah yeah of course yeah nice boy yeah I saw him recently good times yeah and he like was holding his like two week old

57:34Claudia Oshry:oh yeah I saw him too oh yeah you were there nice family yeah nice family lovely actually but his brother had a peanut allergy in middle school

57:41Jackie Oshry:that like ruined my fucking life he had a peanut allergy too oh they had oh it's obviously like yeah generational yeah right um and like it's a picky eater like you don't understand like the absolute tailspin not to like victim blame because obviously having peanut allergy is probably really tough but like it ruined my life like i remember being at home having to like test nut butters that like were permissible and i was like having a breakdown like what do you mean i can't have my peanut butter and jelly. It was like a big thing in our family.

58:06Claudia Oshry:Did you end with a nut butter?

58:08Jackie Oshry:I don't know where I ended up, but like it was in a bad spot.

58:11Claudia Oshry:I feel like that's how we found like Nutella.

58:13Jackie Oshry:Hazelnut.

58:14Claudia Oshry:But if it was peanut.

58:16Jackie Oshry:Yeah, maybe that's how we like.

58:17Claudia Oshry:Also remember the marshmallow spread? Yes, yes.

58:20Jackie Oshry:We went heavy on marshmallow.

58:21Claudia Oshry:We went heavy on marshmallow spread. It was just like. And that was before like almond butter, sunflower butter. It was a debilitating time. I'm sorry. So that's the lore.

58:32Jackie Oshry:Still not an hour. We need to think of the time that we add for the theme song. Okay. How long is our theme? It's about 28 seconds.

58:42Claudia Oshry:Okay. So why don't you do your goodbye and maybe I'll share a message.

58:46Jackie Oshry:Yeah, but there's also something at the beginning of the show I do want to cut out. So like we need like another minute to make it.

58:52Claudia Oshry:Why are we having such a hard time? We usually can't. I got this. I got this. Ready?

58:57Jackie Oshry:Thank you so much for listening to The Toast, the millennial morning show, where we deliver the past five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So, by the way, if you're watching us on YouTube, could you fucking subscribe? We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcasts can be found. So that's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, iHeartRadio, CastBox, all the places. You can also now watch our videos on Spotify, which is exciting. So cool. So wherever you listen to podcasts, find us. Search The Toast, T-H-E. Even though if you're listening to this, you have found us.

59:24Jackie Oshry:And leave a five-star review because those reviews really help. Leave a five-star review. And if you don't know what to write in that review, here are some recommendations. You can talk about how beautiful we are. you could talk about how stunning we are you could talk about how smart we are um hope you guys have an amazing day and we will see you tomorrow and if we haven't reached the one hour mark we are just gonna leave like some blank screen like oh my gosh i can't believe in

59:51Claudia Oshry:all like the eight year we usually don't like think we don't think about it normally nothing wrong if the episode was 58 minutes literally nothing now we're just like obsessed with it today anyways we have to go we are doing a music class so love ya bye

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