I Love Your Cloud, Knicks: Tuesday, June 9th, 2026

9 Jun 2026 · 1 h 8 min · 29 chapters

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In short

The Toast’s Tuesday episode centers on the New York Knicks playoff game (Game 2) vs Victor Wembanyama’s team, plus pop-culture gossip and light “Fast Five” sponsor segments.

Guests

No guests appear in the transcript; it’s hosted by Jackie and Claudia (the “toast” hosts).

Key claims

  • The Knicks lost due to officiating: Wembanyama allegedly had 24 free throws vs the Knicks’ 8, plus missed calls on Jalen Brunson.
  • The series is now 2-1; Wednesday’s next game is “imperative” for a comeback.
  • Ticket prices and celebrity attendance created intense pressure (average sold price cited around $7,600).
  • Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater split after three years; the hosts criticize the relationship’s origins involving Slater’s wife and newborn.
  • Love Island’s Huda Mustafa allegedly entered her ex-boyfriend’s baby-mother’s home via surveillance footage; the hosts call her “manipulative” and “abusive.”

Notable examples

  • Anthem performer: Avery Wilson (The Wiz, plays Scarecrow).
  • Celebrity court-side mentions: Tina Fey, Tracy Morgan, Derek Jeter, Eli Manning, Chris Rock, Robert Kraft, Michael Rubin.

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Chapters

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Ticket Price Dilemma

0:45 to 4:30

Discussion about ticket prices and the struggle to afford them.

“with tickets i literally got priced out like me and my measly budget like could not cut it whatsoever.”

Game Atmosphere and Celebrity Sightings

4:30 to 7:20

Hosts share experiences of a game watch party and celebrity sightings.

“So when they said he was in the Wiz, I was like, oh, it's going to be good.”

Analyzing the Game

7:20 to 11:40

In-depth analysis of the recent game, discussing players and refereeing.

“But don't they just need to like take out Webb and Yama?”

The Pressure of Expectations

11:40 to 14:00

Hosts discuss the pressure on players and fans after a loss.

“Yeah, although I will say the city definitely has a deflated energy to it.”

Discussion on Celebrity Events

14:00 to 16:19

The hosts discuss their thoughts on attending a major celebrity event and the costs associated with it.

“You know, it's like really traditional celebrities.”

Discussion on Celebrity Events

16:23 to 17:48

The hosts discuss their thoughts on attending a major celebrity event and the costs associated with it.

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Discussion on Celebrity Events

17:51 to 19:07

The hosts discuss their thoughts on attending a major celebrity event and the costs associated with it.

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Discussion on Celebrity Events

19:12 to 20:27

The hosts discuss their thoughts on attending a major celebrity event and the costs associated with it.

“Children's vitamins that everyone is talking about.”

Discussion on Celebrity Events

20:43 to 22:00

The hosts discuss their thoughts on attending a major celebrity event and the costs associated with it.

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Discussion on Celebrity Events

22:15 to 23:36

The hosts discuss their thoughts on attending a major celebrity event and the costs associated with it.

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Ariana Grande's Controversial Breakup

25:39 to 28:00

The hosts discuss Ariana Grande's breakup with Ethan Slater and the moral implications.

“First up, Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater have split after three years of dating.”

Ariana Grande's Relationship Controversy

28:00 to 31:08

Discussing the implications of Ariana Grande's relationship decisions.

“He has the responsibility to be loyal to his family and son.”

Huda Mustafa's Stalker Behavior

31:08 to 34:19

Analyzing Huda Mustafa's recent controversial actions caught on video.

“And yesterday video surfaced from the apartment building of one Miss Huda Mustafa.”

Tom Brady's New Business Venture

34:19 to 36:26

Exploring Tom Brady's new coconut water brand and its marketing.

“So Tom Brady has unveiled his latest business venture, a premium coconut water brand called Good Nut.”

Podcasting Landscape Discussion

36:26 to 40:17

Talking about the podcasting industry and their unique position in it.

“And the weird thing is that like the New York Times has a pop culture podcast, which like that's just weird.”

Podcasting Landscape Discussion

40:19 to 41:48

Talking about the podcasting industry and their unique position in it.

“She got me to switch to Truvia like right before I got pregnant.”

Podcasting Landscape Discussion

43:13 to 44:33

Talking about the podcasting industry and their unique position in it.

“If you're like us and you're trying to just get more than two sips of water in every day, but that's obviously easier said than done.”

Podcasting Landscape Discussion

44:43 to 45:49

Talking about the podcasting industry and their unique position in it.

“If you read the book, like, you know, you know, it's one of those like, like, like lost connections.”

The Jonas Brothers' Date Story

45:49 to 47:41

Discuss the story of Nick Jonas' first date with Priyanka Chopra and what went down.

“He was like, let's bring some friends so there's less pressure.”

Celebrity Relationships and Public Perception

47:41 to 49:55

Explore the quick engagement of Nick and Priyanka and public skepticism towards them.

Judgment of Celebrity Parents

49:55 to 51:04

Talk about how the Jonas Brothers keep their children out of the public eye.

“We've never seen a picture about either of their kids.”

Podcasting Trends in Celebrity News

51:04 to 52:05

Analyze the effectiveness of short podcast clips in engaging listeners.

“And based on the limited clips and headlines I've seen, like it's cute.”

West Wilson's Accountability

52:05 to 55:41

Discuss West Wilson’s reflections on his dating history and accountability.

Dear Toasters Advice Segment Introduction

55:41 to 56:00

Introduction to the new advice segment where listeners can submit questions.

“But at the time when they're recording this reunion, like right on the heels of their statement, it's literally just a feeling that they're exploring.”

Analyzing Relationship Dynamics

56:00 to 56:22

The hosts discuss the complexities of a listener's relationship situation.

“It doesn't appear like he's dating other people because like when would he be doing that?”

Dear Toasters Introduction

56:23 to 56:45

The hosts introduce the 'Dear Toasters' advice segment, inviting listener submissions.

“Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment every Tuesday.”

Complicated Dating Relationships

56:46 to 59:21

A listener shares a story about dating a man with a complicated family situation.

“I spent my weekend saying the place looks great.”

Postpartum Boundaries Advice

59:22 to 1:01:54

Hosts give advice to a listener about setting boundaries with her husband postpartum.

“I, you obviously have a complicated situation.”

Sensitive Relationship Issues

1:01:55 to 1:06:09

Discussion on a listener's boyfriend altering a deceased parent's belongings.

“I'm also a member of the Dead Dads Club for about eight years now, and I've been seriously dating my boyfriend for over a year.”
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0:03Claudia Oshry:Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly.

0:21Jackie Oshry:It's the toast. I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy tuesday more like happy lose day because we're just yeah i came up with that like on the fly just for credit for that um we're a bunch of losers oh turdy how's it going there's so much going on and i haven't really wanted to spoil it because i'm vlogging the whole thing for patreon but like i had this big plan i was surprising ben yesterday with tickets i literally got priced out like me and my measly budget like could not cut it whatsoever. Did you put the budget in the vlog? Like I said, Jackie wants me to be transparent, but like the thing is I don't believe in pay transparency.

0:58Jackie Oshry:Like people on the internet are always like, you have to tell everyone how much you pay in rent and how much you made in money. Like, no bitch, I fucking don't. Like I subscribe to the old school philosophy of money. No, you don't. It's none.

1:07Claudia Oshry:Yeah. That's how much money I make. None. Yeah. That's how much I'm not asking you how much money you make. I just like, it's interesting. The ticket, everybody knows the tickets are so expensive. So I'm like, are you going to share the dollars and cents? I will. Okay, fine.

1:18Jackie Oshry:I'll share it on the vlog on the vlog. I haven't in the vlog yet because, you know, like you didn't you didn't even buy them.

1:24Claudia Oshry:So no one can even judge you.

1:26Jackie Oshry:I know. But everyone is going to judge me because they're like, you're cardboard, you're cardboard. And it's like you're just cosplaying cardboard because you're over here considering spending five figures like she's cardboard, but she's in love with her husband. Yeah, I selfishly like one. I want to go to. I have to get better father's day gift. And this is literally the only thing in the entire world that he wants. It is the only thing. So we're working on tickets for Wednesday. it's all in the vlog hopefully the vlog ends with us at the game like the whole vlog is like

1:52Claudia Oshry:okay so you still might drop five figures yeah the whole vlog is like we're going we're not going

1:58Jackie Oshry:we're going like so nothing's happened in the vlog yet except for just like you know turdy and bsc which is why we're there which is why we're in the vlog we didn't go last night but we went to like a pargy viewing party a crane club you know it was like very elite oh not a sitting next to former mayor eric adams like it was seriously elite oh i was like sad for him that

2:18Claudia Oshry:he wasn't at the game you know he would love that he would love that but of course he can't be at

2:22Jackie Oshry:the game he'll be at like the most pop-in watch club watch party at the members studded one yeah um he was there you know he did not look up from his phone for one second i was like what is going on on your phone like watch the tv he should have been at the game i know i was wondering why he likes him and like he's a loser but like he's our loser i genuinely like i miss him so much you really like don't know what you got till it's gone and i think that's sort of like the general feeling with this like turnt mayor like he was a crazy mayor but he was our mayor like he was our crazy mayor and like oh speaking of crazy mayors did you see mike bloomberg like literally getting tackled at the game last night oh my god like there was so first of all it was a buzz with celebrities i can't believe i wasn't there like i'm like whatever i know but kylie wasn't there

3:08Claudia Oshry:so like it was obviously not the one for the cool girls yeah it's true maybe the cool like billionaire bombshell are going on wednesday let me tell you i kylie will be at the next one because timothy is going to start to see her as the good luck charm good luck charm and also um and this

3:24Jackie Oshry:is obviously like spoken like somebody who couldn't afford to get in but like when i was seeing videos of all the street closures because trump went so they had to create like a secret service bubble They closed five blocks east and west in Midtown. If you had a ticket, first of all, you had to like show your ticket to the barricade, walk three avenues. Like it looked like a nightmare logistically. So, yeah, I'm glad I didn't go for that reason. I also got home at midnight. Like I'm so tired. I can't keep up with this. I need the finals to end. Games that start at 845. Like, excuse me, I'm a mother and a business owner.

3:56Jackie Oshry:Like it's not cool.

3:57Claudia Oshry:No, it's really late and it's kind of a bummer like for the kids because I would love to have them watch some of the game. But to start at 845, like then it's just so late. And I did watch. So I start. I watched the beginning of the game. I watched the anthem, which was just so beautiful.

4:09Jackie Oshry:We have to talk about the anthem. So when they said the guy who's singing the anthem name, I'm like, oh, wow, they couldn't get like a bigger name. It's such a big concert. And I know he's like big on Broadway, but like it's very niche New York, which I guess is the point. Oh, my God. Never been more wrong. I had chills. Like, let me tell you, that's up there with the greats. Like, it was insane. It was so amazing. His name is Avery. He's in The Wiz.

4:30Claudia Oshry:Avery Wilson. He plays the scarecrow in The Wiz. Go check it out.

4:33Jackie Oshry:So when they said he was in the Wiz, I was like, oh, it's going to be good.

4:36Claudia Oshry:And then I was like, oh, okay, that's why it's someone that we don't know. It's like someone from Broadway and New York's going to be New York.

4:40Jackie Oshry:But like Tori Kelly was doing it at the last game. Like I thought we were getting like pop stars. But you know what? I've never been happy to be more wrong.

4:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah. They never go the obvious route, the NBA.

4:49Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I'm just like, I'm sad for who's doing it tonight. Like where's Jessica Vosk? You know, if we're sticking with the Broadway theme, I think we're trying to highlight, you know, New York City or Broadway. Let's do that. I love that. Yeah. He was incredible. Like I had chills the whole time.

5:02Claudia Oshry:So I started watching the game and I was like, okay, there's going to be a lot of this. Like I'm going to go. I watched Love Island. Then I came back to the game and I watched like probably from like 10, 15 to 11, but it was just getting very stressful. It was. And I was feeling stressed out. And I was also feeling like, you know what? I preferred it when I would just wake up to good news. Like I don't want to be in the weeds here. I feel like, I feel like I shouldn't be watching. Cause like the one time I'm watching, they're losing. Like I should just go back to my hole.

5:29Jackie Oshry:You think it's your fault?

5:30Claudia Oshry:Like a little bit. Yeah.

5:31Jackie Oshry:so I watched with Ben and his crew of like yellow belly Brunson boys um they take it so seriously and I will say like if I was anybody else in the establishment like I would have like hated them they were just like acting like they were in the arena I'm like you guys were at like a nice place can you stop they were like ref that's a foul like being so fucking crazy and like time out time out I'm like we're in a restaurant like you can't talk like that and I hate to be one of those people because I find like when I'm watching sports and then the next day I hear people like complaining about the calls like it's like well your team lost and like you played worse so i will say like our team lost and we played worse but the odds were stacked against us like the refs genuinely giving deaf dumb and blind like it's so crazy in the second half like the webin yamas had 24 free throws and the knicks had eight which means like only you know four fouls got called versus like 12 thank you um just like and like jaylen brunson got like dead ass punched in the head and like nothing and then Jalen Brunson like touched someone's shoulder and it was a flagrant foul so I hate to be like a ref complainer because it is giving sore loser like you stink and it's like I am a sore loser the Knicks played poorly I'm holding space for two things that's true while also like it was totally rigged they don't want the Knicks to sweep because they can't get the

6:43Claudia Oshry:ad dollars yeah they don't they need that dollars you know I always say that you're right why have four games when you could have seven that's three more games that's hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising revenue.

6:56Jackie Oshry:So the next game is on Wednesday. So now the series is two to one. The first person to four wins. The next game is in New York and then the next ones are back in Oklahoma. What? Where are they? San Antonio. Yeah, thank you. That's in Texas. Yes. She's from Texas. I can sell by the way.

7:15Claudia Oshry:Also like. She's two stepping around the room. Not to promote violence because violence is never the answer. But don't they just need to like take out Webb and Yama? You mean like injure? Yeah, because it's the Knicks versus Webinyama.

7:28Jackie Oshry:So, you know, I was analyzing this game with Ben today because I'm literally now like a girl who watches sports and loves beer. And I also, my sister Margo came last night and she drank a beer. She actually got a beer. And she liked sports. In a non-ironic way.

7:39Claudia Oshry:And like, what were you doing? You were probably looking like so inauthentic.

7:43Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I know. I thought we were having cocktails. I ordered like a tequila soda with lime juice. Margo was like, what's your like light beer? She got like a Stella. And like, this is the crazier part. Was that like all, because it was just me, Margot, and all of Ben's friends. All of Ben's friends were really inspired because they got cocktails and they were inspired by Margot. They're like, you know what? That looks good. I'll also have a Stella. And then they had Stellas for the rest of the night. Were you seething? Were you okay? That's your dream. I know. So not like other girls. That's your dream.

8:10Jackie Oshry:So I said to Ben this morning, it's really not, by the way, like the team versus Webb and Yama. If I was that tall, I just want to say I don't think he's that good. And maybe this is my only, like my first, I've only seen him play three games, but I've been wholly uninspired by him. And if he wasn't that tall, like he wouldn't be that good. Like his skills are not exceedingly amazing. He's just tall and a good player. You know what I mean? He's not like the best player ever. Who's also tall. Like if LeBron James was that tall, like we'd be having a different conversation. Sorry, he's not LeBron James based on what I've seen.

8:37Jackie Oshry:Okay.

8:37Claudia Oshry:So even if he weren't on the team, like they would still maybe win.

8:41Jackie Oshry:No, they do have an unfair advantage. Cause like, he's just there, you know, like a wall, like at a certain point you can't

8:48Claudia Oshry:get a shot off.

8:49Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Except that it's actually not like that. Like I thought it would just be moot. like you're trying to play against like a giant, like it's really like not. He's like,

8:58Claudia Oshry:sometimes they just like to score the points when the giant's not there, when he's like still trailing from behind.

9:02Jackie Oshry:I just want to say like, shout out to that other guy on the team castle. Who's like literally so good. And all he does is live in Victor Webinama shadow. Like it's like Victor, this web be that when be this, when be that. And it's like, what about castle? Who's like literally doing the most. Also everyone on this team is like 21, 22 years old, which is like also not fair. Whatever. We're not letting it get us down. Cause they're just like younger and sprightly or like have so much energy.

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9:23Claudia Oshry:but you know with a lot of the Knicks are like fathers I know but like you get better with age to a point and then like there's a sweet spot and it's not 21 no I agree with that so the next game

9:35Jackie Oshry:is on Wednesday and like it's absolutely imperative that the Knicks win and I do feel that they will like with the garden and like you know it was a lot of pressure this game like you know the record and coming back to New York and the president and the mayor were there like I get it it's like a and they also like have not been playing their best so I kind of feel like they needed to be humbled quite frankly because the last couple of games I thought they played worse but just like happened to have won and I do feel like through great challenges like great opportunities arise like it's a chance to be great yeah and I'm kind of glad that they know what it's like to lose now like once you only know winning and it's all good like Ben's friends were so drama in the car ride home they were like oh I just miss they talk about it so seriously they were like I just miss like when we were like living in a cloud you know oh my god because I guess it's been like a dream They haven't lost a game in 12 games.

10:22Jackie Oshry:Yeah, so they've had like 12 games. They were taking it for granted. And Ben was like, you know, you guys, we were just like living in a cloud. It wasn't real. And they were like, but we love the cloud. Like they were seriously being insane.

10:33Claudia Oshry:Oh, my God. Yeah, it was hilarious. Oh, my God. Well, honestly, I hope for the advertisers and for the lore that actually the Knicks win in seven. Because that would mean they win at the Garden, right?

10:47Jackie Oshry:um so yeah game three is at new york and then they go back for four yeah so three five and seven

10:55Claudia Oshry:wait the next game is in new york right yeah three and four that's four four sorry three and four

11:00Jackie Oshry:five and six in san antonio seven no no just five and then i think they go two there two here one

11:05Claudia Oshry:here one there so the nicks and six so we need six i just want them to win like in new york because

11:12Jackie Oshry:that would be cool right game four at knicks game five at spurs game six at knicks game seven

11:21Claudia Oshry:at spurs so they just alternate now nixon nixon six and that rhymes i like it yeah nixon six nixon six tell ben everyone get on it or five like if they want to win in san antonio sure let's get a couple hundred mil more hundred percent and like and prolong this feeling

11:40Jackie Oshry:Yeah, although I will say the city definitely has a deflated energy to it. Remember yesterday, I was like, everyone's walking on a cloud. Well, we're not in the cloud anymore, according to Ben and the Ransom Boys. And you could tell there's just sort of a weird energy. We feel awkward. We hyped up this game. People spent literally, I think the minimum get was probably an average of$6 ,000 a ticket. And we lost. That's also a lot of pressure to put on the players. Working class people, even though it's not the working class people. I really did not understand how rich people in New York are. until they like they because it's not like working class people selling their cars like it's literally just people who can afford it yeah it's i didn't realize like how many rich people lived here or

12:16Claudia Oshry:like we're nicks fans you're saying the median price was 6 000 i don't know what what the statistic is but yeah i don't that sounds low i don't know maybe because i kept seeing like you think it sounds low yeah i'm talking about average i know i kept seeing them like 200 000 like if you want

12:31Jackie Oshry:to go sit in the nosebleeds it's 10k like people bought tickets like three weeks ago and yeah it It was like a little bit of a spectacle. But as it came down, let's see. Knicks game three ticket average.

12:41Claudia Oshry:I do think also this will make Wednesday night's ticket a little cheaper because if it's not like a final game.

12:48Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

12:49Claudia Oshry:Yeah. So that's good for you and the cardboard.

12:51Jackie Oshry:The average sold price for a ticket as of Monday morning was$7 ,600. Wow. That's a good guess by me. So, yeah. That's a lot of pressure to like people who like are lifelong Knicks fans, people who saved up for this. I understand like why they buckled under the pressure. So I'll give them this loss. But like actually it's just not okay.

13:11Claudia Oshry:Yeah. No I think they're going to come back stronger really. And it's not like they lost the whole series. Like it's okay. Yeah. Even though if they had won it like it would have been over. You know. And it just would have been like so iconic. Everyone was like ready for a win. So iconic. Everyone was ready for a win.

13:24Jackie Oshry:Well Kylie should you know get Kylie Ayer all fueled up. Because she's definitely like has something to do with it.

13:31Claudia Oshry:I agree. They're like maybe they like. So many celebrities. Court side. So many celebrities.

13:36Jackie Oshry:Tina Fey and Tracy Morgan.

13:38Claudia Oshry:Mm-hmm. Derek Jeter. And Eli Manning.

13:41Jackie Oshry:Christopher Maloney and Stabler and Benson. They sat together. Chris Rock. Which is like so New York. Oh, I didn't see him. Chris Rock. A lot of like Knicks legends.

13:50Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah.

13:50Jackie Oshry:A lot of like New York athletic legends as well.

13:53Claudia Oshry:It was star-studded, but it wasn't like super swirly, I would say.

13:56Jackie Oshry:Ben Stiller. No, it was not. It's never super swirly. Yeah.

13:59Claudia Oshry:It's like everyone's excited about all these people and they're not people that excite me. Mm-hmm. You know, it's like really traditional celebrities.

14:07Jackie Oshry:This was a lot of businessmen like Robert Kraft. I think Michael Rubin, you know, like the sports billionaires. Yeah. Not a whole lot of influencers. I hate to see it.

14:17Claudia Oshry:No, you do hate to see that. That's what I'm there for, the influencers.

14:21Jackie Oshry:So stay tuned. The vlog is coming, and hopefully I am too. Like, I would love to be there. We will be there Wednesday, come hell or high water.

14:28Claudia Oshry:We're rooting for you. We don't judge however much you spend. Treat yourself. I judge. You cardboarded so long for this. You think? Yeah.

14:39Jackie Oshry:But then I think about all the things I could buy with this.

14:41Claudia Oshry:I'm here thinking the tickets are between$20 ,000 and$50 ,000. They are. But you just said$7 ,600. That's the average price.

14:50Jackie Oshry:For$200 ,000 section? I'm sorry. I need a good seat. Because one thing about me, I like watching on TV. So if my seat in the arena is so bad that I can't see shit, that's not worth it to me. I don't need to be in the building.

15:00Claudia Oshry:Oh, but Ben does because it's like the spirit. Ben would sit, well he wouldn't sit anywhere

15:04Jackie Oshry:but he would, like he's less picky than me. Like I seriously, like I need to be courtside. Like I need to see stuff. I'm short, I don't have amazing vision. Like I need to see it.

15:13Claudia Oshry:Because she needs to be courtside. You could go, you could go in the 200 section.

15:19Jackie Oshry:It's just like, it's insane. It's like five grand for like a shitty seat in the 200s. And it's my two.

15:23Claudia Oshry:It's five grand to be like a part of something. Exactly. Like I'm sure the place looks great last night, you know? Yeah. So you're paying for the energy, really

15:34Jackie Oshry:All in all, I'm glad that I couldn't get in Because I would have spent so much money on a loss And I really would have been devastated Yeah

15:41Claudia Oshry:Okay, well keep us posted, we're excited You missed a pretty crazy episode of Love Island Did I? Yeah, like one of the crazier challenges

15:50Jackie Oshry:Do you think you could hold off, like I'll watch And we could recap tomorrow?

15:53Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah I think so, unless something comes up That I could put it, but we have so much TV To watch tonight, so I'm so glad I did my homework last night Summer House And now Love Island. Oh, okay. That's not that much. You have two Love Islands. I'll figure it out. Don't worry about me. Okay. Well, let's get into the stories, shall we? Oh, my God.

16:11Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

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23:36Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Turdback. You're welcome. story time actually it's not story time you know what time it is summertime merch time

23:47Jackie Oshry:yes oh my god not us being so non-self-promotional that's so us you guys we have a new merch drop dropping tomorrow 10 a.m eastern yeah that's right jack and i are both wearing pieces from

23:59Claudia Oshry:the new collection it's such cute it's one of our best this sweater that claudia is wearing it's a quarter zip creamy sweater with like a lovely elegant blue toast logo on emblem an emblem I'm wearing an emblem as well this is a rugby shirt rugby shirt we've sold rugby shirts in the past they're so beloved and it's the cutest oh my god the rugby shirts blew off the shelves last time in blue so now we're doing very gender reveal pink um everything launches 10 a.m eastern time

24:25Jackie Oshry:shoptoastmerch.com if you go to our instagram you'll be able to see all the pieces that are dropping we've got our iconic t-shirts coming in two new styles a yellow and a blue sick new designs um and that's the same like iconic big ass flowy postpartum pregnant woman friendly t-shirt the one size that truly is one size um we've got quarter zips we've got matching sets we've got hats um jackie um in all the photos i'm wearing a size large and i think you are too right yes we were wearing from the same from the same crop crop same pile and today i'm wearing extra large so like if you look more fitted I would just do your regular size if you're looking for like a big more cozy vibe I would size up um the rugby shirts will fly just letting everyone know those that

25:07Claudia Oshry:you're wearing are gonna this is a new I don't know if we've ever done a quarter zip not in recent herstory I was actually just going through a bunch of my old merch just organizing my closet and I didn't see a quarter zip it's super cute a quarter zip is kind of sick so shoptoastmerch.com

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25:26Claudia Oshry:Make haste while supplies last. Make haste while supplies last. Classic. Classic us. That should be our website, makehaste.com. While supplies last.com. Slash while supplies last. Okay, now the stories. First up, Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater have split after three years of dating. Love is dead. So rumors are swirling that Ari and Ethan have broken up, and actually they broke up several months ago, but they've remained friends since then and have nothing but respect and admiration for one another. So I just want to say like whenever I said when was it a couple weeks ago that they were broken up like I think they were broken up.

26:01Jackie Oshry:I don't know where I had heard that. So maybe you just like had a feeling.

26:04Claudia Oshry:I don't know if I had a feeling or like I heard it or I just like yeah maybe my spidey senses were tingling. But they're broken up and they have been.

26:13Jackie Oshry:I mean this is so unacceptable. Like you ripped this man from his wife and newborn just to like not even be with him three years later. You're both white trash quite frankly. I can't talk about the Ethan Slater of it all without like having like genuine hate in my heart for Ariana Grande. And I don't hate her. I actually like her. So like it's hard because what she did is so immoral. It's so ugly. Lily J deserves better. I can't believe that they're not even together. Like the only way this ever would have been okay was if they were together and were buried together like in 100 years, like together forever.

26:50Jackie Oshry:That's not like Ari's thing. she's very much Evelyn Hugo so like this is just disgraceful like just disgusting behavior

26:56Claudia Oshry:discussing people like I hate it like didn't do stuff like this like sorry yeah not be disgracing Evelyn Hugo would never like you sort of like glamorize her just like you know discarding individuals but it's not glamorous it's it's well she had her own reasons I don't want to spoil the

27:12Jackie Oshry:book for you know why she had seven yes and also some of them like were like it was you know they were relationships but this is just like seems like a pattern for ari where it's like okay so so then what next yeah well like i i hope even slater i hope he regrets what he did for like a very long i hope this haunts him genuinely until the day he dies i know it does i don't think he

27:37Claudia Oshry:was ever gonna like not pursue ariana grande if given the chance because like really once in a lifetime yeah for a guy like him like yeah and i know like bow and yang went on a press tour like

27:49Jackie Oshry:saying that the timelines were like it's so much better than what people say and ari just let everyone i want to say based on things that i know it's worse than what the internet thinks um like i had heard from someone that like she was taking the baby on walks like i had heard really disgusting things like so i i can't think too much about this because it will turn me into like an ariana grande troll hater i don't want to be that person like i like her music i think she's a nice girl like i think she's been through a lot but like i'm sorry going through a lot is not uh like an excuse to steal someone's husband and father like that's insane yeah and i know it's like well it takes two people she didn't steal him i'm sorry when you're like the power dynamics are not in balance and like you're the biggest star in the world and he's spongebob like sorry you can steal

28:32Claudia Oshry:someone's yeah no that was a steal from from ari this man this man has no agency yeah exactly that

28:40Jackie Oshry:That's so true because a lot of times, and I do feel like we blame someone more than the other. And that's not right. He had to freely go. He's the one who's attached to Lily.

28:48Claudia Oshry:She doesn't know Lily.

28:49Jackie Oshry:He has the responsibility to be loyal to his family and son. It's like, well, yes, that's true. He's also incapable of choosing. Like, it wasn't a fair fight.

29:03Claudia Oshry:Yeah. No. And what are you doing? Like, seriously, what are you doing? like willing.

29:08Jackie Oshry:And it's like oh sweetie sweetie you didn't really think like Ariana Grande was gonna be with you forever.

29:12Claudia Oshry:Well three years that's forever for her. It is a long time.

29:15Jackie Oshry:No actually like all of her relationships are long term. It's not like three months here three months there. She was married like but they're like these big relationships.

29:23Claudia Oshry:No this is a long one like Pete Davidson fell really long but that was like three months.

29:28Jackie Oshry:How long was she married to Dalton for? How long was she with Dalton for?

29:32Claudia Oshry:They got married in like COVID right and then probably three years

29:36Jackie Oshry:ago they announced their divorce so that's okay so another three years big sean was like a long term one mac miller i know they're they feel longer than they are and she was with dalton

29:47Claudia Oshry:less than two years and how long were they actually separated before and yeah everyone's like and nobody cares that she like cheated on her husband with no nobody cares about dalton nobody cares and also i don't think they were together in a formal capacity relevant but yes technically there was cheating on both sides who cares no i don't like justice for motherfucking Lily J I am sorry yeah I also think this is like a tough spot for Ari because she her Q score has seriously suffered from all of this she has begun to bounce back as people just like accept the fact that they obviously love each other we're together now she's trying to do music and her tour again and this is going to disrupt her likability once again I don't think it makes her more likable now that the relationship's over I because it's like you did all that for what yeah and it makes her less likable because now we're talking about it again yep i guess it was bound to happen so i understand like the slow rollout of the breakup yeah maybe like after the tickets were sold to the tour you know me and balk yeah maybe ticket sales are in a good place so she feels like she can comfortable soft launching the breakup yeah yeah i can't talk about this too much because i start to get like a like I really like hate yeah no same but like Lily J I see you I am with you

31:04Jackie Oshry:on a day like today and I'm sure this doesn't even feel good for Lily J like it's not what she wanted like it doesn't change anything it doesn't change anything stupid stupid

31:19Claudia Oshry:are you ready for our next story video has emerged of Love Island's Huda Mustafa Mustafa entering the building of her ex-boyfriend's baby mama's home. So we had reported and everyone was talking about how, you know, weeks ago, Huda and her boyfriend and ex-boyfriend on off, Louis and his baby mama had filed a restraining order against Huda because she had like tried to come to her apartment. And yesterday video surfaced from the apartment building of one Miss Huda Mustafa. Like the actual incident in question. We got the security tape.

31:52Jackie Oshry:Sneaking into the parking garage. this is so fucking crazy. At first I was like, what am I watching? Cause there's a car in the video. And I'm like, oh, how did she, I thought it was her in the car. And I'm like, oh my God, she's so crazy. She got someone to open the gate and whatever. No, no, no, that was a resident like going into their garage. And as the garage is closing, a crazy little woman. Seeks out from the shadows. Seeks out from the shadows. Runs and like literally like a spy kid rolls under the gate and gets into this woman's. And this woman is her boyfriend's ex, like the mother of his child's apartment building.

32:25Jackie Oshry:She's then seen on footage like on the phone, like walking fiercely through the garage. Genuine crazy person behavior.

32:34Claudia Oshry:Yeah, crazy person on the loose.

32:36Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it's actually like one of those videos you see like, you know, wanted. Yeah. Crazy individual.

32:43Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it's unclear why this video is coming out now. TMZ obtained the surveillance footage showing her making her way into the apartment. um you know the court stuff is sort of ongoing um if you watched her season of love island not

32:59Jackie Oshry:one part of this is shocking she was a manipulative and i hate to like i don't want to overuse this word but like quite abusive partner to a jeremiah and so that was like a small four-day relationship this is a this has been like a long-term real life relationship so yeah uh this is not surprising i once again I feel that my opinions on the previous season of Love Island like I continue to be rewarded you know I never gave into Amaya Papaya gate and like thought everything she said was cute and funny I quite honestly didn't understand it um I never thought Huda I never believed in the Huda redemption arc like everyone was like she's crazy oh no she's misunderstood no like I feel

33:35Claudia Oshry:good that she was there from the beginning to the end like to the very last day a demented individual yeah yeah for everyone it's who never got sent home and there were so many people like

33:46Jackie Oshry:inactive partnerships inactive connections with multiple connections who got sent home like because they didn't want to send huda home yeah and i'm sorry like i'll never stand anyone from that season even olandria like everyone's forgotten but like shelly olandria sierra all those girls who like would not stop voting other people out like where is the accountability we need bea the

34:06Claudia Oshry:accountability police to get all over that no it's really true that was so crazy when they sent hannah a home oh charlie charlie infuriating yeah all to save huda this crazy bitch like who actually

34:19Jackie Oshry:turned out to be crazier than we even knew yeah but it was like it was just a microcosm of the crazy that lied underneath the tip of the iceberg yeah well are you ready for our next story

34:32Claudia Oshry:it's a little biz news i guess because tom brady has unveiled his latest post nfl business venture called Good Nut. So Tom Brady has unveiled his latest business venture, a premium coconut water brand called Good Nut. He put out a video that's like very satirical about the name of the drink, Good Nut. And it's organic Vietnamese coconuts in coconut water.

34:59Jackie Oshry:Let me tell you, one thing about Tom Brady, like I'm not going to let him sleep. Like I can't stand him. Like I just think he's such a loser. having said that credit where credit is due i can't remember a time where i've been so dazzled by the name of someone's company like first of all it's brilliant right because it's coconut and it's a good coconut good nut good night good nut oh good night okay yeah good night i didn't know that good night was three of course the more cultural what a nut you know like you had a good nut yeah it's like sexual yeah yeah i like i love like whatever creative agency because you know Tom didn't come up with this whatever creative agency did like kudos to you yeah but also he

35:39Claudia Oshry:seems to be you know lightening up a little bit in this stage of his life like so serious you know like that he's a part of this and this is where he's headed yeah also I think like obviously the

35:52Jackie Oshry:celebrity beverage space is a popular space to be in something new coconut water love that not doing like a spiked seltzer like everybody else love that yeah people love coconut water we should enter the celebrity hydration space don't you find yes oh well we are in the celebrity alcohol space but like the more wellness focused like because we're like tom brady yeah we're sort of goats of our of our very specific niche you know which is daily pop culture podcasting hosted by

36:26Claudia Oshry:sisters hosted by sisters actually there's not another daily pop culture podcast so it doesn't

36:32Jackie Oshry:even have to caveat hosted by sisters is there not like the new york times one pop to cast i've never heard of it honestly what's what did you say so pop cast pop no what's it called new york times is like a pop culture podcast and i do feel that they are heavily inspired by us i'm being

36:49Claudia Oshry:dead serious i just had olivia rogerigo on oh i saw clips from it that's a podcast that's daily Yeah.

36:54Jackie Oshry:And the weird thing is that like the New York Times has a pop culture podcast, which like that's just weird. I don't think that like people go to the New York Times for pop culture. And it's hosted by two men. Like two old men. Yeah. Yeah. It's so strange. And I have no shade against them. I actually think that they do a good job. Like whenever I hear their takes, they're quite nuanced. But that's a daily show? I don't know if it's daily. Because you said daily. What is it? It's about music. It's about music. And it's daily? Is it daily? Is it daily? I don't think it's daily. The New York Times has the daily.

37:18Jackie Oshry:No, no. You said daily pop culture. What is it? Weekly? Weekly, yeah. Daily pop culture. Daily pop culture. Oh, is Chicks in the Office daily? No.

37:27Claudia Oshry:I think they're like four days a week.

37:28Jackie Oshry:Three or four. Yeah. Okay.

37:33Claudia Oshry:That's us. DPC.

37:35Jackie Oshry:Daily pop culture. And I don't know.

37:38Claudia Oshry:I'd say we veer more on like daily comedy as well. Oh, yeah. Does anybody do daily comedy? I know. I chuckle every day. And we're in the comedy category. Does anyone do daily comedy shows? shows when it comes to just daily shows it's us in the daily the daily yeah no i don't think anybody else is doing daily yeah they do like four days a week and i don't know if anyone's doing daily like we are well they could never yeah are you ready for our next story wait what was the story oh tom brady yeah the stories are very light today like don't feel the need to get like bogged down into them in the story just sort of use them as a vessel yeah like and also I was it was weird the stories are light today even though so much is going on in the world like the Knicks and Love Island and whatnot and it's like so the stories are light but let's let the let's let the show like we don't have to be in this box you know okay I love that like we can take this thing

38:33Jackie Oshry:wherever we want to go it's true every now and then I like remember because you know I think that the structure of this show let's go toast at a glance for a moment i think the structure of this show like is so important right people know what they're gonna get they have expectations

38:47Claudia Oshry:and we need them every time on track and with things to talk about every single day yes but every now and then i remember like we could just fuck shit no like every now and then i could be like listen there's three stories i want to talk about today we have dear toasters we have nicks at the beginning like we have a show and we don't have to do pick two more stories just because yeah but here I go just because it's very inspiring when you think of it that way maybe next time I'll shirk tradition but today I picked two more stories just because so today you're not saying screw tradition no today I'm very traditional we would never say that we actually

39:26Jackie Oshry:are quite for like two you know uh modern women we're extremely traditional in our just

39:34Claudia Oshry:we're transitional why transitional is like a mix of modern and traditional in like interior design so why can't it apply to us as well okay but transitional also means like changing we are ever changing we used to hate kitten heels

39:54yeah

39:55Claudia Oshry:thus we are transitional I rest my case law is reason free from passion so who am I? Seriously Who am I? Are you ready for our fourth story just cause? I'm not Oh Well Should have said so Right? You should have said so We have dear toasters don't we?

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45:48Claudia Oshry:June 10th only on Prime are you ready for our next story thank you to the Jonas Brothers and their podcast for this sort of fourth story news you know they're like hey Jonas is so fourth story

45:59Jackie Oshry:don't you find if if by fourth story you mean bottom of the barrel I agree just like

46:03Claudia Oshry:irrelevant randomness like okay you know fun fodder that sparks interesting conversation fodder kevin jonas says that he threw up during his brother nick's first date with his wife priyanka chopra he said he went kevin threw up kevin threw up he wingman so hard he said oh because he got like wasted yeah so when nick was on therapist he told uh the story of his first date with priyanka which was at the hollywood bowl with like a group of friends including like kevin to see Beauty and the Beast. He was like, let's bring some friends so there's less pressure. So it was like a grouping in case it wasn't the vibe.

46:39Claudia Oshry:And so she brought her best friend. He brought Kevin, another couple friend. We had like the absolute best time at the show, Nick said on Therapist. The group, they went out for drinks. They took shots. He said like Kevin was like overly hyping him up. I fucking love Kevin. He was like, you know, someone bringing up like baseball or something. Kevin would be like, oh, Nick could have gone pro. He could have been. I'm cracking up. He could have been a pro baseball player. He was like, that was the most Jersey thing ever. And it was very sweet. She was obviously like, your brother's like really gassing you up.

47:10Claudia Oshry:And Nick was like, he really wants this to go well. And then it did. He said, we French kissed that night.

47:17Jackie Oshry:French kissed? Sorry. Like, eye roll, Nick Jonas. Sorry.

47:22Claudia Oshry:I would, but they've been married for eight years.

47:25Jackie Oshry:No, I didn't say eye roll, Nick Jonas, and Priyanka. I'm saying Nick Jonas, who says that? We French kissed? like what are you like what who are you danielle steel like just let the man who are you colleen over so anyways one thing about me i cannot let nick jonas live like i keep my foot on his neck like i need to hold him accountable i just like do you find it shocking that like he needed a wingman and he asked kevin i just based on like the vibes when i read their body language i just

47:51Claudia Oshry:feel like nick hates kevin well i feel like there's a wingman for different things and like I think he was really interested in Priyanka like wifey material so he's bringing his husband friend the stable dad yeah but like if he was trying to woo someone else like maybe Kevin's not the vibe but I think like Kevin is the vibe to show Priyanka like what their life could look like being stable and happy I just want to say like this story I didn't know that like this was

48:15Jackie Oshry:the origin story of Nick and Priyanka makes everyone look so good especially Kevin yeah

48:20Claudia Oshry:and I just love him and so then on hey Jonas hey Jonas um Kevin was they were talking about um the date because he was saying it's like coming up on the eight year anniversary of when they went out and Kevin said I wingmaned hard I wingman so hard I threw up in the bathroom and rallied again I love him so much like seriously dad friend brother of the year brother of the year what's crazy and we knew this at the time but like I guess it sounds even crazier they got engaged two months after their first date what yeah and then that so they got engaged in july and then they got married in december and it was very quick and i remember at the time like no one believed that they were real because like well who gets that didn't help so quickly it was such a

49:04Jackie Oshry:random matching and then yes a speedy courtship that there was so much doubt cast on them as like a pr relationship it was so it was bizarre i'm sorry it was now obviously they've been together for eight years and there's like nothing weird about it they're like a very happily married family but I'm sorry at the time like dispersions were cast and I want to say for good reason I

49:23Claudia Oshry:yeah but like we were all wrong of course like they knew what they had they were set on each other more of that you know agreed but I think celebrities do that a lot but they're not set on

49:36Jackie Oshry:one another so it's like you know Max Ehrlich and Demi Lovato it was the same season that like

49:41Claudia Oshry:Ariana and Pete got engaged yeah and then also Haley and Justin so people were casting down on all three but what's so crazy is like Nick and Priyanka got like the most doubt yeah I think

49:55Jackie Oshry:there's also an age gap and I think that people also were just like how did this two even meet like it just felt so fucking random yeah it doesn't feel random now because like they're no

50:03Claudia Oshry:it's like they're actually so cute I like forget that they are together and like that's they got married so quickly and engaged so quickly and they just knew like kudos and you know what else

50:14Jackie Oshry:I feel like we're always talking about celebrities who keep their babies off, like, off outside, like, the public sphere. We never talk about the Jonas kids. Kevin doesn't, but the other two do. Yeah. We've never seen a picture about either of their kids.

50:26Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I don't follow them, so.

50:30Jackie Oshry:I know that Priyanka and Nick don't. They do emojis, right? I don't know what they do, but, like, blurred lines, whatever.

50:39Claudia Oshry:And then Sophie and Joe do a really good job.

50:41Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I've never seen a photo of them. I don't even know their names. Like maybe Willa. I think there's a Willa in there.

50:47Claudia Oshry:I think so too.

50:48Jackie Oshry:So whenever we're having those conversations, we never bring up the Jonas Brothers, but like, Sly.

50:53Claudia Oshry:Yeah, totally.

50:56Jackie Oshry:So Hey Jonas is making waves in the podcasting world.

51:00Claudia Oshry:Hey Jonas is working for me. It really is. It's something to say. I want to include in the stories.

51:05Jackie Oshry:I was a doubter, non-believer. And based on the limited clips and headlines I've seen, like it's cute. I haven't seen any clips. love a whole episode you see clips i think i did yeah yeah i saw joe talking about his co-parenting relationship remember i was saying that it was a clip oh wow yeah i want to see the logo they have these like custom mic flags and it's called hey jonas and they obviously had one of their kids right like hey jonas probably like one of the older girls who like knows how to write so cute

51:33Claudia Oshry:and that's the logo that's so cute her penmanship needs work but yeah she's she's literally working on it i'm kidding i'm kidding are you ready for our fifth and final story summerhouse west wilson madame marable garrick gram karen reed exactly says benson boone says he thinks about dara leviton's reunion comments every day oh and what did he say this on his turn podcast when he just sits down and lies yes so i get clips for his podcast me too um and they're very low engagement don't you find they're not like huge episodes it's like they're so short i know like you like short clips this is something that we like always talk about i would have our we will never truly

52:14Jackie Oshry:be famous because our clips are not like buzzy sound bites 10 seconds each like no no we're having thoughtful two-minute conversations and people don't want to watch a two-minute podcast

52:23Claudia Oshry:clip but i like watching a longer podcast clip like because like like i want to see a conversation like this isn't like a yeah but the whole point is that like you're gonna like what you see but it's not enough so you go listen to the podcast i feel like people who have like buzzy like little little bites like people aren't actually listening to the podcast now oh I like your clips you're

52:40Jackie Oshry:you're a content creator yeah yeah yeah I just yeah I don't know what the right thing is but our four minute clips like are cutting it I love them and I love watching other four minute clips

52:49Claudia Oshry:like oh you entertain me for four minutes you have talent right anyway so I find their clips to be very short and there's literally like two sentences in them but who are we talking about again West Dara and oh oh oh West's podcast clips yes I agree they're too short short I agree i'm glad you agree so he is addressing what dara said which you know went like super viral he said which time which one the first or the second all he said i think the reunion is good for people to just get shit off their chest dara i've known her for a long time obviously it hurts a little more to have a friend like really fucking cook you like that in that moment he said i've thought about it probably every fucking day since then so he said um i haven't run away from my bad communication style or dating history it has not been clean in a long time she's valid for calling me out in that capacity because yeah I've dated casually and hurt people that one did stick out to me honestly a lot because I was like oh this is someone who I've been romantic with and been friends with to have them just give me the full scope of what that reads like to someone who's been a part of it all in all facets that's a lot to take in like is there any like okay so this is acknowledgement right like he acknowledges that that's his behavior I think he's

54:05Jackie Oshry:taking accountability for his behavior that's the west wilson way like he says the all the right

54:10Claudia Oshry:things like where's like is there any desire to do it differently or like no he just acknowledges it because it like makes him look good he knows exactly what to say like he's very he can recognize i don't even think he's putting on like i recognize i hurt people i recognize my actions were bad and they hurt people is there any desire to not want to do that anymore no because that's also like

54:33Jackie Oshry:over the summer when he was talking with Ben about like how him and Sierra have just such amazing romantic sexual chemistry you know uh friendship chemistry but like he obviously can't be in a relationship because he has that like disability so it's like he knows all the things but he is physically incapable of being any different but he is capable of acknowledging his shortcomings but that's sort of where he draws the line just acknowledging them

54:56Claudia Oshry:yes but so then it's like what is he saying to Amanda that's keeping her around like I feel like I don't think she's requiring a lot of explanation. No, but I feel like this is the different one. And I feel like in the reunion tonight, we're going to hear more from what their conversations have been like because really, why would she throw? And I know I'm always giving her some sort of benefit of the doubt to believe that something is being told to her that is keeping her in this position, that she threw away her whole life, her career, and her friendships, and her reputation and her name.

55:25Jackie Oshry:Watching the reunion, it's been made kind of more clear that they're kind of unsure about where they are And they just made this announcement because they have feelings for one another and they don't really know where it's going. So they haven't really firmed up anything. So she really did throw her whole life reputation career away for a feeling, for a crush, not a relationship, not a great love. Maybe it'll turn into that. But at the time when they're recording this reunion, like right on the heels of their statement, it's literally just a feeling that they're exploring.

55:54Claudia Oshry:Right. But like in the last two months, like since the reunion, since the statement, they're traveling together. They're together all the time. It doesn't appear like he's dating other people because like when would he be doing that? He can't. He can't. Right. So maybe this one's different. Like I just I don't know. I can't wrap my head around someone being so stupid. I really can't. That's why I always. I know. That's why I always think there has to be something else. There's something that they have between them that we don't know. Because how could you be so stupid? Yeah, there's something they're not telling us.

56:22Jackie Oshry:Right. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment every Tuesday. Jackie and I like to help out members of our community. They write us in, whether it's dating stuff, wedding drama, workplace romance. Email us, deartosters at gmail.com if you need advice from your girlies. Or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down to the submission box. Both totally anonymous methods of submission, and we will never, you know, blow up your spot. Ready? Hey, Jackson Turney. First of all, love you guys. I spent my weekend saying the place looks great. Well, it always does. I need advice because I know the logical answer, but I'm conflicted.

56:53Jackie Oshry:I take Pilates at a studio with a coffee shop attached to it. and one day I noticed this really handsome guy there. We made eye contact a few times but I assumed he was writing, waiting for his girlfriend and I left without saying anything. A few classes later after realizing he's just working and not a significant other of anyone there, my instructor ended up showing him my Instagram and encouraging him to follow me and instead he gave her his number for me but before I even texted him, he followed me and DM'd me first. We instantly clicked, we talked for hours but then he casually mentioned that he has two kids.

57:21Jackie Oshry:I jokingly said, you're hopefully not married and he told me he's separated, co-parenting and the situation is complicated i did some investing and found that the co-parents instagram while they don't wear rings then they have different last names they all still live in the same house for the kids he's reassured me that there's no chance of reconciliation but i can't tell if i'm ignoring obvious red flags because the next the connection feels so strong i obviously don't want to tell him i've seen her instagram do i trust the vibe should i run before i get attached so she is like yeah no i think it's a very complicated situation and like you

57:50Claudia Oshry:have to think about what you want and like what your timeline is because by the time that this man like figures out his mess of a life and and honestly the idea that they're living like in the same house for the kids while not being together like is actually like kind of nice for their family so like of course so is he running to move out as long as he lives with his wife you're never going over to his house like that's not a real relationship for you and like if you are looking to like get married and have kids like by the time he's available to have a real relationship like it could be five years like i think this sounds like a waste of time yeah although i just

58:26Jackie Oshry:want to say i like that they're living together like i don't want i feel like it really speaks to him being a committed dad i do i don't think about her who our girl our toaster no no i i agree with you like this is seriously he sounds like a nice guy for you and if you could be patient like No, you can.

58:46Claudia Oshry:Yeah. He sounds like a nice quality guy. I'm happy for his ex-wife.

58:50Jackie Oshry:I believe that they're not reconciling. I don't think anything nefarious is happening.

58:54Claudia Oshry:But like you have to like figure out your own life. And like this sort of situation like probably doesn't work for a young woman's timeline. I don't know how old you are. I don't know what you're looking for. You can't just like wait around for him. Like sad.

59:07Jackie Oshry:Because this setup works until one of the people gets into a relationship. So like are you going to be the girl? Like that's a lot of drama. If you feel that this is the great love of your life, like maybe you want to go and waste your time. I wouldn't recommend it.

59:20Claudia Oshry:You can also say to him, like, I like you so much. I, you obviously have a complicated situation. That's not fully fleshed out. Like, I don't think we should be together right now, but like when you know what your future holds, like calm, calm me. And in that time you can go and meet other people and, and make a go and try and find someone, but maybe you'll wind up back together.

59:42Jackie Oshry:but the time is not right right now yeah so like is he also really shouldn't be dating right now

59:49Claudia Oshry:yeah it seems like really fresh yeah it just sounds really messy and like it's not your mess

59:55Jackie Oshry:this isn't your place you're supposed to be on a clean slate like you're starting

59:59Claudia Oshry:to find your person like it's just a lot if you it's just a lot and the odds of it working out perfectly and in the time frame that works for you are very slim yeah right all right next time

1:00:13Jackie Oshry:hey swirlies i'm two weeks postpartum with my second child and my husband is horny as fuck in addition to nine months of a medically traumatic pregnancy i just got home from the hospital after almost dying from postpartum preeclampsia my husband was actually in the room when my heart stopped and i had to be revived so i feel like he wants to fuck me so bad because he almost lost me but good god i'm two weeks postpartum how do i set reasonable boundaries gently with this very sweet man who's clearly traumatized and also horny as fuck by the way I promise I will submit an update because I'm also annoyed with the lack of updates yours truly a mama of two with no libido I I feel like the fact that you like are seeing this as like a sweet thing that your husband's doing like you are a better woman than me because your husband needs to fuck all the way off and now we all have to come up with a plan for like you to let him down easy why don't you send him this episode sir fuck off okay like leave your wife alone she gets

1:01:00Claudia Oshry:a year I'm sorry medically she gets a year medically she can't even talk to you or look at you for six weeks no six weeks yeah right well she's already two weeks postpartum so she has four more weeks medically and then it's whenever she decides but like seriously two weeks like aren't you busy like don't aren't you busy with the newborn and your pre-existing child like a toddler presumably right like i i think you're giving him a lot of credit he almost lost me so he wants to

1:01:26Jackie Oshry:no you're so sweet like you sound like such a fucking queen and i like that you really see the best in your husband like you don't see him as a pest with his own making his yeah he's a pest you don't see him as that like making his own needs like the priority versus your like genuine clinical medical needs that's sweet like you seem like a really sweet wife you obviously love him because you see the best in him but like seriously this is not that he's annoying and he

1:01:49Claudia Oshry:has to go yeah yeah just by the way no no is a whole sentence and also like medically you can't

1:01:57Jackie Oshry:do anything well you know people do because then you know there are people who have babies who are like 10 months apart it's insane who could possibly 10 months apart no then you're like at the six week i just want to say like the first time that i you know after postpartum i had to like soak in

1:02:20Claudia Oshry:a tub i was in so much pain yeah no it's it's crazy work pelvic floor is a real thing yeah no is the whole sentence by the way

1:02:29Jackie Oshry:I only recently found out you could have postpartum preeclampsia which is not like I'm comparing but like is much more painful scary yeah so no that's my advice to you sister it's just no

1:02:43Claudia Oshry:and then also you could like tell your doctor even if you had six weeks you're like not wanting to get you

1:02:48Jackie Oshry:why don't you see the doctor tell your husband the appointment's at 2.30 but it's actually at 2 have him come in at the end and you could just tell the doctor please tell my husband I need another I can't have sex for six months.

1:03:02Jackie Oshry:All right, next up. Hey, Swirlies. I'm also a member of the Dead Dads Club for about eight years now, and I've been seriously dating my boyfriend for over a year. I talk about my dad occasionally, but not often. I don't do much for his birthdays or anniversaries, but I am fully present for them. Long story short is that I took my mom and dad's old golf clubs. My boyfriend was cleaning them and getting me all ready to start playing soon. He later told me that he took one of my dad's clubs to get re-gripped for him because he thought I would think it was sweet. Is this totally fucked up because he didn't ask or is it a pee job move?

1:03:32Claudia Oshry:I just don't understand why someone would do that like as a surprise, like not letting you know, or like, I don't even think he meant to do it as a surprise. Like, but why not tell you that he's doing it or ask you if he can do it before he maims something that is precious to you?

1:03:48Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no, this is crazy behavior. Like to, first of all, it's your boyfriend, not your husband. So he needs to calm down.

1:03:55Claudia Oshry:But even like any normal sane person would just be like, oh, my gosh, I love these clubs. Like, I think it would be like nice if I, you know, let me know how you feel about that. Like no one would actually just go and do it without saying anything. Permission. Psychopath.

1:04:10Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it's giving sociopath like to touch the item like a personal item of a loved one who's passed away is crazy. Like you shouldn't move it. You shouldn't touch it. Like it's up to the person. but to then like actually change it to fit your fucking hands like that's insane without

1:04:28Claudia Oshry:mentioning asking telling nothing this is a crazy person yeah i guess they like re-gripped the moms

1:04:35Jackie Oshry:for her and he's like let's do the dads for me is that what it was i thought like yeah she took both okay say it again so long story short i took both my mom and my dad's old golf clubs my boyfriend was cleaning them getting me ready to start playing soon so obviously she was going to play with the moms.

1:04:52Claudia Oshry:Okay.

1:04:52Jackie Oshry:So I think he saw like that journey for her and was like, do me next.

1:04:57Claudia Oshry:Yeah, that's a little creepy.

1:05:00Jackie Oshry:It's a little self-centered. Like, I don't want to look too much into it, but like, that's not a person who's like looking out for you. That's weird vibes.

1:05:07Claudia Oshry:So like evaluate the rest of the relationship.

1:05:10Jackie Oshry:It's also obviously like gay, right?

1:05:12Claudia Oshry:Because he wants to stick the golf club up his butt.

1:05:16Jackie Oshry:It's very phallic shaped product. And obviously if we wanted to look more into this,

1:05:20Claudia Oshry:we could but let's not go down that road i think that evaluate the rest of the relationship like are there weird breadcrumbs if this is like a perfect pijam wonderful sweet and like maybe he just had like a lapse in judgment senior moment you know yeah senior moments in essence where he just like did the wrong thing one time i can forgive the wrong thing one time i can forgive it yes of course sometimes you genuinely it's the wrong thing one time yeah let's do an audit

1:05:49Jackie Oshry:this calls for we need a button like your husband is gay this calls for an audit yeah let's audit the relationship relationship at a glance

1:06:01Claudia Oshry:rag take a look rag rag take a look tag and you know like you're listening to this you're like

1:06:08Jackie Oshry:yeah well there was also the time and right right so you know you know i know you know like sometimes dear toasters is like looking in a mirror you know or you're like no this was so

1:06:18Claudia Oshry:crazy that's why i had to write it and it was so so out of character and you know that okay he made a mistake one time we can forgive yeah only you can answer that question my sweet sweet friend

1:06:29Jackie Oshry:and the good news is you already know chills that's your toaster thank you to everybody who wrote in deartosers at gmail.com or our website the toast podcast.com reminder that our summer merch drop launches tomorrow at 10 a.m eastern time we've got sweatshirts we've got t-shirts We've got hats. We've got crew necks. We've got rugby shirts. We've got matching sets. All available at choptoastmerch.com, 10 a.m. Eastern time. Check it out. I am wearing a size extra large slash large, depending on if I want more of a fitted or oversized look. Jax, would you say the same? I'm wearing a large.

1:07:03Claudia Oshry:I'm wearing a large.

1:07:05Jackie Oshry:Great. Choptoastmerch.com. Thank you so much for listening to The Test. I'm letting you show where we deliver fast-fifes. You need to remember the Friday night on YouTube. So watch your kids on YouTube. Please don't forget to subscribe and give us a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast. We're on podcast. We're found so it's by Fights and Stitcher. about how beautiful studying and wickedly talented we are.

1:07:21Claudia Oshry:Love ya! Bye!

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5. Summer House’s West Wilson Thinks About Dara Levitan’s Reunion Comments ‘Every F***ing Day’ (US Weekly) (51:42)

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