I Love Your Episode, Emergency: Tuesday, September 30th, 2025

0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy tuesday and it's so important that you choose to spend your days with people who lift you up co-workers who brighten your day so if you have a co-worker you hate this is your permission to slap the shit out of her hey jacks how you darn oh sorry her could be a him but let's be real it's a her it's a her it's always the women hey swirly how you doing i'm darn good excited for this fantastic tuesday we have a lot to do today uh the theme of today's episode well well well it's an emergency it's an emergency not to like jump right into the stories but like just to give like a tease of what we're talking about today which is nicole kidman and keith urban which we had previously said was one of literally two reasons why we would ever do an emergency episode um very sadly i feel like not everyone who listens to our podcast is also a patreon i mean that's just a sad fact that um that's just an unfortunate reality i get it people have different priorities it's okay you're always welcome to join us patreon.com slash a toast um having said that over the summer we had this like running bit that you know people always say when there's breaking news like oh my god Claudia Jackie you need to do an emergency episode and we say well like yeah but we do an episode every day so just wait till tomorrow morning and there are very few things that could happen that would make us physically get up and record a emergency episode one of them down to think about what things could possibly happen that would trigger an emergency episode and we could literally only think of two things one was of course the engagement of one taylor travis kelsey which ended up happening and we ended up recording an emergency episode was or was that what spawned this conversation no like a week before we had said like realistically an emergency episode list we would actually what would make us get up off our ass i guess would be taylor's engagement okay yes and she ended up getting engaged a week later and we recorded an emergency episode we did because we weren't because we weren't doing daily episodes and then we were like what else really could and honestly I feel like we're always talking about the strength of the marriage of Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban and we reference them quite a lot and we love them both so much like as a couple as individuals we're kind of like their biggest fans weirdly we're always referencing or not referencing them and we're like I guess if they got divorced like that would call for an emergency episode and we only added them to the list because it was so out of the realm of possibility and when we said that I got dms from people being like well you know I live in Nashville and I heard xyz and it's like please they say that about everyone i wasn't taking any of those messages seriously lo and behold tmz breaking news yesterday nicole kidman and keith urban are getting separated nary a month later we were called to task and we did not rise to the occasion but what's also funny is claudia and i had just recorded a patreon episode yesterday literally we had got up from our chairs and one hour later this news broke so like we couldn't get back in the chairs the thing is this is the emergency episode it is it is and it's nice to have like more information even though people are just speculating the news is like so silly they're like Nicole Kidman was at a beauty event solo a few days ago before announcing split it's like Keith Urban would have never been there even in the heyday of their marriage no they do a lot of solo work which is why we've always commended them for like making their individual schedules work we always say like when a celebrity couple sites like scheduling you know it was hard to be by coastal like we broke up because the time management well Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban do it and they both are at the top of their game in their respective fields so if they can do it anyone can but you know what even though they split they did it for 20 years so do it for 20 years and then tell me you can't do it um it also did remind me that I've been wanting to talk about Reese Witherspoon did an interview where she was talking about her relationship with Nicole Kidman and she said the absolute funniest thing that I actually was laughing so hard she also did an impression of Nicole Kidman was hysterical oh my god do you know what I'm talking about yeah we're the real estate bitches it was the the clip made me laugh so much I'm like I never thought reese weatherspoon was so funny but like she's hysterical um just something i wanted to mention so what did she say that made you like the impression made you laugh the impression made me laugh of like nicole kidman sending her a property oh no we're the property bitches like a take on the property brothers like not nicole kidman being funny yeah oh yeah yeah no it was really cute i think she was on um podcast uh culturistas culturistas um culturistas that's So, Jackie.

4:35Las culturistas. Speaking of las culturistas, the Chostar community is upset with me because I didn't, like, you know, say that I was really excited for Bad Bunny. And you know what? Like, I stand with my community. You guys are right. He's for the girlies. I take back everything I said. And then I was trying to find. I know one Bad Bunny song. And I was trying to find it on Spotify. But, like, I don't know. Jackie. And I was trying to ask chat. Come be happy. Be happy. Do you know that one? I don't think I know one Bad Bunny song. I know. I know the one. And then chat, I sang it for chat this morning and chat was like, I don't know what you're talking about.

5:07Yeah. No, I don't know one. But I'm listening. I'm learning. That I'm familiar with. I'm listening. I'm learning. I'm streaming. And you'll catch me at the Super Bowl in the front row. That's really. One thing about me, I stand for my community. Yeah. Like they didn't like what I said. I take it back. Oh, wow. Even though after our episode yesterday when we're like, no, when we say something, we're 10 toes down. Like deal with it. Yeah. Except like the Tostatic community like has let me fully infiltrate them and they never give me shit. Like, so if they're giving me shit, like I stand, I, okay, nevermind.

5:35Control Z. So it's not your truth anymore that you're not hyped for it. Yeah. Like I can get hyped for anything. That's good. No, the more I think about it, the more I'm like, this is a crazy choice. I'm so lit up. Let's go. Oh, wow. Viva Puerto Rico. Shooting bad bunny on repeat. Viva Puerto Rico. Well, Viva Puerto Rico anyway. It's a fab place. Any day, Viva Puerto Rico. Send love to Puerto Rico. sending love the paul brothers live in puerto rico there's like so many great and actually puerto rico is a deep like integral part of ben and i's romantic history it's true and it's u.s territory you don't need a passport to go there they're so true it's it's pargy so it could be pargy regardless of the super bowl of course and it deserves its flowers and they've been through some hard times in the last few years of course lots of natural disasters i'm sending love and we're huge in puerto rico by the way I believe it we're the elk of Puerto Ricans sending love always and forever in perpetuity and a day so of course and a day don't forget the day the first story of the day is of course going to be the breaking news we will dive into it but before we do how you doing Jax how you doing I'm doing well uh busy week another like weird week because we have Yom Kippur on Thursday so like we'll be off on Thursday so just like you know orienting myself to the week last night I'm just like I need to get off my phone I find that I'm on my phone too much these days so I did something crazy crack crazier meth I started a book that is really crazy it is really crazy I just like needed to turn my brain off uh-huh so I read like just started reading not like the most amazing book or anything yet but like I'm really just trying like it's not good I've just too much time on my phone and I really am looking forward to Yom Kippur because I'm not fasting and because I won't be on my phone I'm gonna turn it off for the 24 hours and I need a reset like that I don't know if anybody else is feeling it yeah I feel like nothing quite puts into perspective how much time you spend on your phone until you have a baby and it's like what name a worse feeling than getting caught up on your phone and like your baby's in the bouncer or whatever and you catch him like looking at you and you're like oh my god I was looking at my phone I'm disgusting yeah Or you see someone else do it Or it's like if you could see yourself in this moment Being on your phone and like your kids are being adorable Like what are you doing?

8:01And it's hard when your phone is like right there And like vibrating because everything just makes your phone vibrate Even if people aren't actually looking for you No and tell me Tell me why like I never got as many text messages When I didn't have a baby And now that I have a baby it's like everybody wants to like engage with my content And send me text messages and call me and FaceTime me And tell me how beautiful I am Like nobody was communicating with me before I had a baby Yeah so it's like you actually have to keep the phone out of the room otherwise the incessant buzzing like of course you're gonna always be drawn to it so and let me tell you what the incessant buzzing is it's an anit okay yeah it's like that it's sound detected yeah i'm here singing like i'm right here yeah that's extra tough in an apartment like for me i still get notifications like even when we're not in there like if there's like a shadow motion right you know someone's screaming there's always a ghost on my nana there's always shadows like the sun comes and goes the ghost of snitches pass lives permanently in my house and so So I'm constantly getting like the ghost notifying the nanette.

8:54I have to, like a few months ago, I turned off all Instagram notifications. Like every Instagram cannot notify me. You know, Kim Kardashian could DM me and I would not get a notification. So that's been good. But still, too much time spent on Instagram. Like I've got to scale it back. That's a bummer for Kim. It's a bummer for everyone, really. Tonight is Dancing with the Stars. And it does, you know, it is worth mentioning that we are now a viral sound amongst the TikTok Dancing with the Stars community. As you guys know, Alex Earl and her partner Val used our sound. Which sound did she use? I think she used, I mean, I don't know how anyone has a problem with us.

9:32And then last night. I mean, there's so many sounds that we have that are viral that it's hard to remember who used what. Correct. Last night, Danielle Fishel and her partner used that sound. Hamstring. Hamstring. So it's clear that, like, they all use each other's sound. No, it's just clear that we're so viral that anybody who wants to be in the mix of making viral TikToks has to use our sounds. I think, like, I have a feeling Whitney Leavitt is next because they make so many TikToks, her and Mark. Yeah. I wonder why she hasn't, like, done it. Well, you know what? Take your time, Whitney. She's got lots of content to make.

10:03We are always here for you. Yeah. Maybe we'll come up with some new sounds, even though I think we produce sounds every day. But it's on the sound clippers. I don't know who out there clips the sounds. Well, we clip sounds and like when they go viral, it's never from our original videos. It's like other people just being like, oh, this was funny. We clip like conversations that aren't meant to be like viral sounds. Right. But the viral sound clippers, I just feel like they could be producing more. They should farm our content more. Okay. They should. For real. No, no. I do think people pay for that.

10:34Like you can pay like a company to like farm your content basically. I'd be down. Somebody sent me a bill. like yeah send us a farmer i don't know how it works a wife farmer and farmer wants a sound i love your sound farmer

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13:29But before that, Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban have separated after 19 years of marriage. TMZ dropped the news yesterday. Nicole and Keith have split. He is living separate from her. TMZ said that they have been living apart since the beginning of the summer. As a reminder, the couple married in June 2006, so almost 20 years of marriage. They shared daughters, Sunday Rose, who is 17, and Faith Margaret, who is 14. Like, genuinely, why? I don't know of a good reason. I don't think there was anything really nefarious, like cheating here. I really don't. So, you know, they grew apart, whatever. I'm like, seriously, grow up, you know?

14:06Yeah, no, and it's like, you've been through all the hard times together. I just was watching because I'm on my phone constantly, a reel about this girl. This girl was explaining that your marriage goes through different eras. And it's not about like always trying to get back to the honeymoon phase. It's about thriving in those specific eras, even when it's so hard it's like you just got to get through like having young children yeah and then eventually and if you do all those things and you work through those things then you get to the golden era and I feel like that's where they are so like what goes wrong now when you have all the time in the world for each other all the money in the world all the success like personal success separately like what goes wrong now I don't know and if you I don't know I'm so upset by this i'm taking it so personally i know it has literally nothing to do with me i'm so i'm not here for it i'm just kind of like not accepting it remember like back in the day when kim and connie got divorced like obviously before all of that like you were in denial you were like i don't believe it i think they can work it out i really do i don't know and i worry if you get to the point of announcing and i do worry like things are going to come out where it's like a point of no return like we literally say this about every couple who breaks up like literally like Zach Bryan and Brianna Chicken Fry were like I know make it work here's the thing we're still in the place where like nothing has happened yet like she hasn't gone on call her daddy and like said he had a crooked penis yet you know like I'm actually begging Nicole Kidman like do not go and call her daddy like or just like don't do what people do these days whereas like you break up with someone and you tell them what color their shit stain underwear was like I really don't think she will do that please like seriously please I'm so over that like can nothing be sacred between two people um maybe i'm naive but i really think that they will keep this between them they do have two children so that does like kind of keep the wheels behind you i think the most we would get is like music from him that alludes to what happened the issues yeah and i'm just upset because like nicole kidman ran so far away from hollywood from tom cruise he literally kept her kids she ran he is the devil and she found this like wonderful thing and they built such a wonder it could have been just like a rebound you know she like needed a normal person who wasn't in a cult but she ended up finding this great love after Tom Cruise and they built a beautiful life together and he sort of healed her from the inside out with his little guitar his long hair like and you know she's she lives through like one of the most painful things ever right like your children don't speak to you and it's not because you did anything wrong but it's because they're in a fucking cult with their dad and as good as life could have been for her afterwards I really believe that it was because of him like she found something so beautiful so healing and I'm sure her life is great now like she has amazing friends whatever but like I'm sad I really am like it's such a there's so much behind their marriage it's so much deeper than we even will ever know no in 20 years is a long time in 20 years is a successful marriage like yes even though it's not for Hollywood working like they had a successful marriage and it's good and just because it's ending but what's interesting about these stories is like the narrative is that he's leaving her she didn't want this yes that she has been fighting to save the marriage that like he moved out and he's the one like who's ending it now the only red flag if I now look back at like the last couple of years the only red flag in their marriage is the amount of work Nicole Kidman takes on for an actor of her stature is really not compatible.

17:39Like her doing that baby girl movie, like she does so much work. That Netflix show, which I'm sorry, was horrible. The perfect couple. Like she's so much better than a lot of the work she puts out. It's almost like, what are you running from? Good point. I could see a movie like baby girl getting between them. Like, what are you doing? You're married 20 years and like you're licking up cat pee or something. Although Nicole Kidman is one of the very few women in Hollywood who like made a commitment you know like we're lifting up female storytellers and she actually does do like x amount of projects a year that are directed by women so she's not just like you know saying stuff she's actually doing stuff which I appreciate and I want to say I think baby girl was actually directed by a woman and maybe that was like her you know box checking for the year for sure but there are plenty of things that are directed by women she also could just do less things that are still directed by women like I don't know I feel like that yes it was directed by a woman it just sort of that's kind of a conversation under no I'm just saying like everybody wears their herstory t-shirts and then they're back you know casting shia lavoch so you're just saying separately she talks to talk and walks to walk as an individual that's what she's doing yeah so i'm criticizing like the amount that she works but at least she's like helping other women sorry sure but you made me feel like i can't criticize baby girl because it was directed by a woman girl criticize not dana holsberg seeing that movie with her in-laws because she didn't know what it was about okay it's a classic dana i i just wanted to caveat that like while i'm criticizing her work she's also like you know she's moving the needle one I think one of the few women in Hollywood who like talks about like, let's lift each other up.

19:01And then they're like behind the scenes, you know, like stabbing women in the back. Not Nicole Kidman. She's moving the needle for a woman. Mm-hmm. Just one.

19:13I don't know. Baby Girl. I think that's where it could have all started. Just saying. You do? Yeah. Like that's kind of crazy. I feel like Baby Girl was like a cry for help. Like when we talk about how weird it is that actors like kiss people on set. Yeah. Yeah. that movie i didn't see it i actually don't even know what it's like she kind of gets into like a submissive relationship with her intern right yeah like her young co-worker so it's like porn like like bdsm pornographic movie it's all about yeah like submissive like he makes her like act like a cat and pee on herself and drink milk from a bowl so if i'm her husband of 20 years side eye especially because you're an accomplished actress like you don't have to take lowbrow roles like you could have said no but you wanted to drink pee from a bowl okay i have another i have another theory for you maybe like they're you know they've been married for 20 years like maybe things got a little dry stale in the bedroom and she didn't like love the way that he was seeing her you know the mother of your children like at some point you don't see things can get like a little boring and so maybe she wanted to change the way he saw her so she took that role and then what happened and it was just like a band-aid maybe it gave him a few months interesting just a theory so you think they just lost the spark i don't actually i i don't know he's also a musician which like we do have to take into account like even though like we love him he's no he's our p job like we love him keith ervin yada yada like he's a musician like he's like definitely i don't know like on the tour bus being bad oh oh i thought you were gonna say like you know he probably has a lot of feelings that need to be no handled they say that like the only man in hollywood who is actually truly genuinely loyal to his wife is robert downey jr that's what they say and so we should just assume that every other one until someone proves me wrong i know there's gonna be pierce brosnan definitely doesn't cheat on his wife i'm gonna open my phone and there's gonna be like story time I hooked up with Keith Urban you know no but like I guess unless he left to be with someone else but I don't think oh my god I would be so upset if he actually fell in love with one of these hookers I don't know I mean we could speculate all day I'm sad I'm just like I'm projecting I don't even know like I'm sure Keith Urban's a great guy I don't know I'm just upset yeah I don't know blaming baby girl feels safe 100 % well I guess that's that for now I'm sure we'll have updates we'll have updates but um are you ready to move on anything else to say do you want to like give us a I have one more thing to say to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban sorry let me start over I have one more thing to say to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban Kidman.

22:08I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you. How dare you? So you're mad. Yeah. Make it work. Yeah. I know your individual happiness is important, but you also are role models. You have to think of the collective good. You have a responsibility. Correct. As role models. Do better. You have a responsibility as role models to stay miserable in your marriage. 1 ,000%. that i said what i said are you ready for our next story which is some legal news i don't know why these two cup these two people except is actually what actually feel adjacent to nicole and keith i think they were neighbors at one point and that's jay cutler ex-husband of kristen cavallari has been jailed in tennessee following his dui yeah so he got a dui a few months ago and he has a four-day jail sentence so he began so he's just like chloe kardashianing it but four days in jail that's i mean unless he had like four hours yeah because of overcrowding but he went to jail today can i say something uh-huh chloe kardashian going to jail and then getting sent home like a few hours later due to overcrowding was the first and last time i ever heard of overcrowding in a jail is that a thing or was that just like a line on keeping up with the Kardashians like for real oh I think it's a thing I never that was the first and last time I ever heard of that happening to someone I never questioned it I know but have you ever heard of it happening ever again I don't know I feel like maybe I feel like sometimes like celebrities get out for overcrowding especially if it's like something like is it something that only happens to celebrities no maybe it happens to other people too we just don't hear about it because sound off in the comments like have you ever heard of somebody you know or like went to high school with like going to jail and then getting sent home early due to overcrowding like I think it's seriously like a fake phenomenon honestly interesting that we only think is real because like we watch it on the kardashians how could it not be real yeah well they had space today because uh jay cutler went to prison to jail and he will be there until friday for his dui i just want to say i know we could all say like it's four days whatever you do it like i could not spend four minutes in jail yeah you guys know my biggest nightmare in this life i'm so afraid i'm more afraid of going to jail than I am dying and that's what keeps me like abiding the law yeah hard I'm almost like a narc when it comes to the law that's like really crazy that he's going to jail that he's a jailbird and it's actually crazy that there are so many celebrities who just like low-key go to jail why do we put so much emphasis on celebrities like they're literally like delinquent criminals like it's insane brain dead morons almost every celebrity has been to jail like it's so crazy Or arrested.

24:49Like, why do we? Even the best ones. Like, I love her. Sorry. Reese Witherspoon has been to jail. Or, like, she got arrested. Why do we care what these people think? And, like, why are we literally talking about them every day on a podcast? It's so crazy. Sometimes, like, you do go down that wormhole. You have to zoom out. And you can't focus on her or else, like, we're out of a job. Like, what are we going to do? I know. It's fun. But, like, every celebrity is not college educated, has most likely been arrested. these days i know but like has mostly like all been arrested went to jail has like some sort of like addiction issue yeah like we're always talking about like she spoke out why do we give a fuck no i mean enlightenment is that crazy no longer giving a fuck yeah but the thing is i love them i love them i would give them my last dollar like it's so sick yeah let me who are like my faves in this life like have they been to jail or arrested taylor swift no of course not you would never Luke Holmes would never Haley Bieber's like turning into one of my favorite people on the planet never Gwyneth never actually I feel like Gwyneth like for carving her name into a tree totally but no I don't have a recollection of her having been arrested has Gwyneth Paltrow ever been arrested no oh she had her legal troubles with the skiing incident of course but she was never arrested um who are like my favorites uh kelly clarkson i don't even need to google it no she's never kiki palmer she's never been yeah mindy kaling never been yeah okay i feel good about honestly like my faves yeah you guys look inward has your are your faves like constantly getting arrested like maybe look inward yeah and causing trouble if your fave was jay cutler maybe you're looking inward today maybe take the next four days off to think about what you've done but I don't know he's really paying the crime the time for the crime you know right so okay by the way if Sam Hunt had if Sam Hunt had gone to jail like would you have forgiven him faster because he would have like paid for his sins here's the thing I actually as like a human being I really do believe in rehabilitation especially ever since I read the book The Many Lives of Mama Love did you ever read it no I think you should know that you're looking for books um I really do believe even like the beauty of rehabilitation.

27:08I just don't feel like any celebrities like ever get truly rehabilitated. And I'm not talking about like rehab. I'm talking about like doing something wrong and like coming out better on the other side. And if they do, it takes - Yeah, like truly changing their ways. If they do, it takes decades. Charlie Sheen. Yeah. Because I watched the documentary and I believe him, but I don't think he was saying these things 10, 20, 30 years ago. Yeah, I understand. So it's just important to like remember, like come up for air every once in a while. Like these people are insane. Yeah. They are insane. And here's what they're in a tizzy about now.

27:41SAG-AFTRA has condemned AI actress Tilly Norwood. Have you heard about this? I'm following the Tilly Norwood saga. She's gorgeous. So SAG-AFTRA has issued a statement condemning Tilly Norwood, the AI actress who has become a contentious subject in Hollywood after her creator recently claimed that multiple talent agents were interested in signing the AI creation. The acting guild believes, quote, creativity is and should remain human-centered and is opposed to the replacement of human performers by synthetics. To be clear, Tilly Norwood is not an actor. It's a character generated by a computer program that was trained on the work of countless professional performers without permission or compensation, they wrote in a statement.

28:19They said it has no life experience to draw from, no emotion, and from what we've seen, audiences aren't interested in watching computer-generated content untethered from the human experience. It doesn't solve any problem. It creates the problem of using stolen performances to put actors out of work, jeopardizing performer livelihoods and devaluing human artistry they added that signatory producers should be aware that they may not use synthetic performers without complying with our contractual obligations which require notice and bargaining whenever a synthetic performer is going to be used so the thing is is them building a program and referencing like art that other people created and not compensating them is wrong um and yeah we're at this stage now where like ai is coming for jobs that includes acting and so while I don't I don't agree with it why why would actors you know get their jobs safe from AI and not you know factory workers or coal miners like AI is coming for everyone in marketing it's coming for everything so it's not just about like SAG SAG is obviously like centering themselves and I get it that's their job but if we're gonna have a conversation like we're gonna have a big conversation not just about like theater actors yeah and I want to see this energy for all the other people whose jobs are being replaced by AI.

29:33Now I want to say the man who created AI gave a statement and he had probably one of the loseriest answers ever just being like I didn't make Tilly to um to steal jobs I made Tilly to start conversation. Well this is what I the creator's name is Aline I would have assumed that was a woman but it's a man. Okay. He issued a defense of Tilly by saying is she is not a replacement for a human being but a creative work a piece of art. I see a not AI not as a replacement for people but as a new tool a new paintbrush just as animation puppetry or cgi actually that's a sleigh of an answer what about animation was that putting people out of jobs what about puppetry what about puppetry or cgi which is fair open fresh possibilities without taking away from live acting ai offers another way to imagine and build stories i'm an actor myself and nothing certainly not an AI character can take away the craft or joy of human performance.

30:30I just want to say like the animation. Not him convincing me. The animation comparison is a sleigh. It is 100%. And I also want to say, I remember a couple of years ago where they had that like robot pop star, Sophie or whatever. Remember her? She like didn't take off. I feel like in an existential way, like these robot type of AI characters are not a real threat to the entire industry. But yes, it becomes like a new sect of art. Yeah. And I guess it's a new category. And then if you're going to have an AI character in a movie, I'm sure other actors would not want to work with the AI character.

31:08So everyone in your movie would be - Not Tilly getting discriminated against. No, I mean, it's very specious. Yes, it's so specious. So specious. So everyone in your movie would be an AI character. It would be an AI-generated movie. and is that movie better than what the real people are putting out at the end of the day it's like is it is it good it's not it's not right it's not a generalization because there are some animated movies that are better than non-animated movies and there are some non-animated movies that are better than animated movies so it's like it's not like saying all ai movies are going to be better than regular movies you make a good movie no like it could be worse also yeah like hollywood make a good movie they're making really bad movies and i think that also really puts their jobs in jeopardy because if AI is going to do it better, because they're doing it badly.

31:50Like if they were doing it really well, I don't think anyone would really like care, like crave anything else. But yeah, maybe we do want an AI generated movie. That's like, AI, make a movie people like, and they do it. The thing is, is that the future is here and you really can't fight it. So you have to find a way to survive, like an exist alongside with it. And it is, it's coming for every single industry. And whether you take a moral stance on it or not, like it's here. So you can either get on board or get left behind, honestly. And to be clear, I'm not picking a side here because I don't give a shit about this particular issue of AI actors.

32:27But I do find it very interesting. No, I do too. And it's like it's coming for every space, right? And so we're only hearing about this one because it's like SAG and everyone's famous. But there are great challenges in, you know, integrating AI into every space. I mean, lawyers? Tech. Lawyers. That's bad. Yeah. Like, hey, I could just write a contract lickety split. It's so true. Copywriters. Like, goodbye. It's, yeah. This is just a larger conversation. And what do you. By the way, even like interior designers. Like, I was using AI. Like, I forget for what. I was like buying a new rug for my master bedroom.

33:07And I was like, what rug would go with this? And they gave me like a bunch of good options. And I found a good one. Like, you know. No, everyone. And I said, I like the style of modern or whatever. I like your cake. I like your rug, chat. So I don't know what the answer is, honestly. Me neither. How can you fight this progress? Like, how can you just turn it off? It's coming. You can't. We should be using these tools to make our human work better. Like how we use ChatGPT on this show to enhance the fact-checking department. Or kind of how like the machine factory, like, you know what I'm saying?

33:49The Industrial Revolution? Right. They put factory workers out of a job. The assembly line. The assembly line. That's what I was looking for. The assembly line did include factory workers. They included people. But then it automated it. Yeah. Then it does get automated. But yeah, even, you know, the sewing machine enhanced seamstressing. And the seamstressing. thing no but you still needed someone to operate the machinery a seamstress is a woman yeah what is a male seamstress called seamster oh duh no it's not so duh i'm just saying oh okay i don't know that that's true but it feels right okay and a female taylor is a tailored yeah tell laura um i don't know these are big questions much bigger than me Of course.

34:37But I did like a lot of... But to SAG-AFTRA, sorry that happened and good luck. A lot of like AI advocates do like to compare it to the Industrial Revolution, where it's like it pushed us. It was a leap forward. Yeah. I'm not against it at all. I use AI in my everyday life. It has improved my life. But it's definitely scary. Yes, I understand the larger implications, especially as it comes to jobs. Yeah. AI is over here eliminating jobs. And I don't think they're really creating a lot. Yeah. And to be clear, like I don't always love the work that AI does. So I think there really is like value for human beings.

35:11And if they're only ever studying like human, say in acting, they're studying like actors. Then they don't. And we just, you know, keep going with AI actors. They won't have like new things. They won't be able to get better. Right. Because their references are old and they're putting people out of business. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. Not as having big philosophical debates here on the show and like ethical dilemmas. but to be clear like i i have you she has no horse in this race no i do i mean for the general question of like yeah it puts i don't know what the right answer is no because what are you just going to shut it all down stay for progress no it's been amazing in other ways people upload like their medical results and get like all this information that it would have taken them like years to get who knows who knows check back in in a few years once it's already done we'll be able to call it yeah classic us what uh stories number next four i can wait it's a little book to movie news what people we meet on vacation trailer just dropped oh i didn't even wait i didn't even know that it was getting the movie Treatment.

36:23It's on Netflix. I happen to think that everything Emily Henry has ever written is the most overhyped thing in the world. Like, she gives such industry plan to me. Having said that, her best book is People We Meet on Vacation. Oh, having said that, People We Meet on Vacation was the reason I stopped reading Emily Henry. Like, I really didn't. What did you read before that? Beatread. I liked Beatread. That was her first book. I'm watching. Okay.

36:52What is this song? Hang with me, Robin. Oh, the girl singing in the trailer. Okay.

37:01Oh, I hate it. I hate this.

37:16What? Am I... or your trip, we suggest the following itinerary. I say we just wing it. Wing it. Oh my God. You're okay. I'm the king of the world!

37:34I've seen enough. This does not look good. It doesn't look good. It doesn't even look like the book that I read, which I didn't like, so I guess I'll be glad if it diverges from the book. I actually liked the book. My core issue with this book is that the title has nothing to do with the book. The book is about a girl and her platonic best guy friend who go on all these different vacations every year and pretend like they're not in love. And then it's called People We Meet on Vacation. Right, you would have thought that they met each other on vacation. No, or that they go on these, and it's not even about the other people on the vacations.

38:08It's about them too. It's about them too. People We Meet on Vacation, it's like you go on a cruise and you fall in love with someone random. Love. I don't understand the title compared to what it's actually about. I don't recognize either of those actors and I just want to say Netflix does not have a good track record of adapting movies into TV shows and books. The Luckiest Girl Alive was not my favorite. Again, I was a little too close to it but I don't think it's generally regarded as a good adaptation. The Perfect Couple was horrible and that's literally my favorite book. What did they recently do too?

38:42I don't know, like that department at Netflix is not slaying the day no and this like the trailer looks bad the book was bad um actually so maybe it will be good and sometimes in a trailer you just like throw in a good song and like it looks like a good trailer and that was a good song and it didn't do it no and it's like it's it just seems so boring like these two people that go on all these trips oh no we're just friends and like of course she's so quirky oh i'm listening to loud music in the airport i didn't see you uh my headphones like okay it's like we're just friends and then by the end of this book we won't we'll be lovers we're fucking right cool seen it before i think i've seen this film before and i didn't like the ending i think actually at this juncture we should be leaving the book adaptations to hulu they do a very good job they do do we do do they do do a good job actually prime prime does excellent the summary turned pretty daisy jones Tiss tip, yeah.

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