I Love Your Opalite, Sky: Monday, October 6th, 2025

6 Oct 2025 · 1 h 22 min

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Podcast Summary: The Toast Episode - I Love Your Opalite, Sky

Episode Overview

  • Title: I Love Your Opalite, Sky
  • Air Date: Monday, October 6th, 2025
  • Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
  • Episode Length: 1:12:41
  • Main Topics: Celebrity News, Recaps of "Love Is Blind" and "The Life of a Showgirl"

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Key Segments

Introduction

  • Hosts express excitement for the week and share personal anecdotes about their weekends, including making chili and plans to travel to LA.

Celebrity News Recap

  1. Mark Sanchez Incident
  2. Ex-Jets QB Mark Sanchez reportedly acted erratically, body-slammed a truck driver, and was subsequently stabbed in Indianapolis.
  3. Sanchez was under the influence of alcohol during the incident.
  1. Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs Sentencing
  2. Diddy sentenced to four years in prison after a mixed verdict in a federal prostitution trial, including a $500,000 fine and a requirement to attend mental health and substance abuse programs.
  1. Hilary Duff at ACL Fest
  2. Hilary Duff made a surprise appearance as Sally during Role Model's performance at ACL Fest, showcasing her talent and connection to the character.
  1. Bari Weiss Named Editor-in-Chief of CBS News
  2. Bari Weiss has been appointed as the editor-in-chief of CBS News following the acquisition of The Free Press by Paramount.

Love Is Blind Season 9 Recap

  • Jackie and Claudia discuss the new season of "Love Is Blind," sharing their opinions on various couples and individual contestants.

Couples Overview

  1. Anton and Allie
  2. Engaged but not much depth shown in their connection.
  1. Joe and Red Dress (Calambria)
  2. A painful watch; Red Dress is blind and they explored their dynamic.
  1. Edmund and Calambria
  2. A seemingly perfect pairing that may face challenges.
  1. Patrick and Casey
  2. Casey's manipulative behavior towards Patrick during a breakup scene was described as uncomfortable and confusing.
  1. Jordan and Sparkle Megan
  2. Sparkle Megan prefers Jordan over Mike, but her choice seems to hinge on superficial attributes rather than deeper connections.
  1. Nick and Amy
  2. They have a genuine connection, though Nick's previous declarations of love to two other women in the pods may become a point of contention.

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Key Themes and Discussions

Personal Life Insights

  • Jackie and Claudia share their personal lives, including preparations for travel, family life challenges, and food preparations, creating a relatable atmosphere for listeners.

Reflections on Celebrity Culture

  • The hosts critique celebrity behaviors and societal expectations, especially in light of the incidents involving Mark Sanchez and the legal troubles of Sean Combs, sparking a discussion about accountability in the public eye.

Critique of Reality TV Dynamics

  • The discussion on "Love Is Blind" emphasizes the emotional struggles of contestants, the manipulation involved in relationships, and how editing impacts the audience’s understanding of the genuine connections being formed.

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Conclusion

  • The episode wraps up with reflections on the discussed topics and hints at future episodes, maintaining an engaging and humorous tone throughout.

Closing Remarks

  • Listeners are encouraged to tune in for more celebrity news and reality TV discussions, maintaining a connection with the hosts through their candid commentary and insights.

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Key Takeaways

  • Celebrity Accountability: The discussions surrounding Mark Sanchez and Sean Diddy highlight the importance of accountability among public figures.
  • Reality TV Impacts: The manipulation and emotional distress of contestants in "Love Is Blind" raises questions about the ethics of reality television.
  • Entertainment and Humor: Jackie and Claudia's dynamic brings humor and relatability to the topics, making for an engaging listener experience.

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0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy monday hope everybody had a splendid weekend mine was splendid yeah i went to dj maxx hey jacks how you doing doing good mine was splendid as well i made a chili so that's always going to be a recipe for success i was actually promised a chili and one never arrived ben on sunday was like should we make a chili and i i knew something was up you know because why would he be so generous ben like low-key like doesn't like making chili i'm always like oh we should make a chili and he's like fine he has to film an ad you he has to film an ad oh what brand is sponsoring his chili i don't want to spoil it because it's i don't want to spoil it okay well that's really exciting but he didn't do his chili for his wife nor his brand work is that what you're saying no he's delayed content is delayed well we had the busiest weekend I'm sure you did it's a busy time yeah I am going LA you are going to LA and he didn't even make you a chili even though he's trying to court you to go to LA and a chili would definitely help move the needle I ran out of reasons to say no and now I actually believe it's a good idea like we should definitely go how fun is that like I was being a hater but first of all the lack of air conditioning in my studio was not going to work for me you know It's 80 degrees.

1:41It was 80 degrees yesterday. 80 degrees. It's October. It's been 80 degrees for three days in a row. I've had enough. I'm leaving. When do you leave for LA? Flights are booked. We'll literally be leaving this week. And if merely a few days. Okay, great. We also need to like then sink because then you're on LA time. Yes. So LA Swirlies episode will be coming out on our time. Sorry. Like I'm not waking up at 5 a.m. to podcast. Like, yeah, we will probably we'll be like a noon one o 'clock show for the East Coast Swirlies. Isn't that what we are now? will be a one two o 'clock show for the east coast swirling coast swirlies and we can record at like nine my time well no we had that we have to we have to discuss we'll figure we'll coordinate don't worry i like haven't even told you i had to find a place to live um i had to get like a stroller so many things i had to call brian kelly 1000 times asking i've never taken ruby on a plane so you know and i literally in the middle of my text messages with him i said i feel so privileged to have like direct access to you i would be googling all these things and brian knows everything and Brian has two kids so yeah we figured it out we're gonna be okay we are gonna be okay he's at such a great age to travel it's really like he's kind of just attached to you yeah we like yeah it's it is what it is listen we're doing it can't turn back now I'm very excited for you same and then by the time I get back my new place will get done everything that needs to get done there's like no furniture um so much work needs to be done so you know what It's good.

3:10It's good. Turdy takes LA. I love LA. Turdy would. I love it. I'm going to be like my co-host is LA. I feel like Ben and Josh. Benny and Joshie. Joshie and Benny. The Knicks are so bad and this is not good. Yeah. Except Joshie and Benny will be like Jackson Cod. That's disgusting. That's disgusting. So I had like a crazy weekend of just like getting all that planned. Like buying packing cubes. I now own packing cubes. Yeah. I don't want to talk about it. That's like something that kids, like when you have kids, you have packing cubes. I have so many packing cubes. And I stand by that. Like they're not that like different.

3:47They're kind of nice because you don't have like a, because their clothes are so little that you don't want a huge suitcase with all these little folded individual things. You take out the sack, you put it on the bed and it's like you're staying for a long time. So obviously you'll unpack, but like you could kind of keep things in their cubes if it was a shorter trip. They do serve a purpose and they make you feel really organized, especially when the clothes are so little. Yeah. I see people on TikTok like always getting their packing cubes like pack with me for whatever. And it's a grown ass people fitting like two pairs of shoes in a cube.

4:15Two shirts. I don't. And I'm an extremely organized person. I live for organization. That's like porn to me. I love cleaning. I love like everything having a place. I don't think packing cubes. I think it's a little bit like Internet shtick. Not maybe for adults. But I stand by the fact that for kids, you kind of need them for all the little items. There are just so many little items. You can't have them like loosey-goosey in a big suitcase. Yeah, no, I get it. I just like I'm annoyed that that's like the stage of life that I'm currently in. Yeah, but then there's some cute packing cubes. I do like one color for Harry.

4:51I did Amazon same day delivery. One color for Charlie, you know. Yeah, some of us don't have time to color code. Like we had to get the ones that Amazon could deliver today between 6 p.m. and 11 p.m., you know? Yeah, I understand. So that's what's going to. And also, I'm blogging today. I have kind of a busy day being like a businesswoman, a mother, and like a celebrity. So I thought it would be a good time to date in the life vlog. People always ask for that. So here you go. So here you go. She chose the busiest day, as one should. Oh, my God. And I left my LaCroix on my desk, which is like 10 feet away.

5:22Like seriously kill me. Did I? Oh, my LaCroix's over there. Didn't you just get up? I did because I left a light on so I didn't want to like affect the lighting I'm like so all over the place today yeah I mean that's honestly that's kind of giving like LA creator no it's giving like hair brain mother oh you know like creator hair but like I feel like LA influencers are always like oh my god like they're just hair brained as well yeah yeah oh man I'm so LA you are I'm excited to see how it changes you yeah like like I said I will be forgetting the little people so if you want me to remember you like do something nice for me today you know yeah or every day make a donation to the mark shown writer holocaust education foundation i'll remember that that's really beautiful um so many things we're gonna be talking way more about taylor's album today because i listened to it all weekend long um i have so many thoughts like i don't even know what i said on friday like delete everything i said i don't even remember what i said i don't even know if i still stand by it i have new thoughts new theories new meaning I have thoughts as well in my own personal opinions and in the context of the conversation that's happening.

6:29There is a conversation that is happening. Yeah. So I have a lot of thoughts. There are a bunch of really catchy hooks. Yeah, they are. Like, and that's Elizabeth Taylor. Elizabeth Taylor. Elizabeth Taylor. And that's. Yeah, there are. We'll get into it. That will be our first story recapping Taylor, everything that's come out since the news, the drama, the beef, the videos. At the end of the episode, let's also do a little bit of a TV recap. We both started the new season of Love is Blind. I'm only on episode three. Like I just saw Edmund, like the reveal. And so that's what I'm up to. So don't spoil it.

7:12I know you're further along than me. Yeah, we'll talk about it. And then you might have to take your headphones off because I'm on episode six. But I want to say. I'm so behind. Yeah. I want to say in general, as a general statement, like this season is a travesty. I felt that way during episode three, like some of the worst television I've ever watched. If my husband wasn't so obsessed with this show, like he comes in and turns it on. I'm like, OK, I have other plans. He's the pusher. He's such a pusher. He loves the show. I would not be watching. It reminds me of that Minneapolis season that was positively dreadful.

7:44Remind me. Give me one person who was on that season. Joey and Monica. Ben Platt. Yeah. yeah yeah joey monica yeah yeah yeah i didn't finish that season um this feels like that also they're like committed to giving us way more pod time i think to like establish a couple things one that um you know so let's save it let's save it so we could see more of the couples like and so that they have like you know roots and we understand why they connected but also they're showing us more of everyone's overlapping connections just to say that that always happens do you know what i mean like it's yes but it makes it confusing it does make it confusing and okay we'll save the rest for later but i will take my headphones off i am like well now i'm getting to the good part because i'm on the honeymoons but like the pods were a really low i have three more pod episodes they yeah episode five is when like all of the reveals get done not but they get done along the way but like you're done with reveals in episode got it it's rough out here the pod episodes are like a necessary evil right like you really do in order like to have a good season you need to understand the connections and then last season I think they like understood that people don't love the pods so they gave us like half an episode of pods half an episode of honeymoons and the whole thing was them living in Minneapolis like who gives a fuck no but I feel like Minneapolis was a lot of pods I had to stop watching no no no the most recent season we got no honeymoons and no pods like we saw so much Minneapolis in their sad apartments like I'm good the honeymoon is hands down the best part I need a whole season of honeymoons when they started doing like the group meetup on the honeymoon yep and without fail these people always get weird in that scene yeah without fail like you would think that they would be like on their better behavior not drink so much not make comments about other people's looks that aren't their partner without fail they are so freaky and and this this current mixer that i just watched is actually one of the worst because the experiment like truly makes people crazy first of all you don't have your phone you're not connected to the outside world which already is like heightened weirdness then you're with a bunch of freaks and you're having like heightened emotions because you're falling in love with people and then you're traveling to a new country which is always exciting but you're this like freaky weird version of yourself and then like you get reunited with like your cellmates from the pod so it like reignites more weirdness it's it's definitely a social experiment no and like just everyone going forward you think people learn from reality tv they learn from seasons past like i'm not going to say this i'm not going to do that stop drinking at that honeymoon mixer stop it 1000 like drink when you go home okay so we will dive into that in the tv recap and we will do stories anything else you want to chat about before we dive in any more pre-fast five banner that you want to ban oh any more banter to be banton no i had a nice weekend i'm just been like taking it easy trying not to do like the most but we've been um we had people over actually yesterday for the games that's why i made a chili and i hosted and i cooked a chili that's a lot you also made corn muffins i did make corn muffins to accompany my chili parchy a fun fact about me i fucking love a corn muffin but i don't like it in the way that other people do i know it's like really popular to have with chili you like with jelly i love it with like as a sweet my man raspberry preserve oh speaking of raspberry preserve are we talking about megan markle in paris it did not make the cut can we talk about it briefly yeah because it almost made the cut and then i was like we're gonna do a whole story about blood and siaga because they switched their creative director but they never actually took accountability for the weird shit that they did like it's not gonna be a story sorry no of course and i i wanted to talk about it just like sort of put on blast and like shame everybody who went like anne hathaway like you like some people like need to be slumming it like jenna ortega like i get it like you're it's exciting for you to be invited to balenciaga but like anne hathaway with your leather gloves first so she looked terrible like the outfit was bad all these celebrities like flocking to balenciaga is so and i'm shocked megan markle went outside of the child scandal with balenciaga like balenciaga is a brand isn't like the in the high fashion world it's not like really elite right like megan Markle a former royal they're like street wear right I would say I could see her at Chanel I could see her at like honestly that's it like literally Chanel or maybe Dolce & Gabbard Hermes yeah right right right but like you're like slumming it at Balenciaga like I was shocked that that's and when she went she looked gorgeous like leaving that hotel with like her silk wraps her chiffon her look is so elegant I'm like you're going to Balenciaga where everyone wears leggings Like I was shocked.

12:21Like why? She could get an invitation to any show. Like unless maybe some of them are like monarchists. But like why? You never leave your house. You're going like a big thing. You're looking bad. It was a big deal that she went to Fashion Week for the first time in like 10 years. I thought maybe she has. Balenciaga is like so low of the totem pole even besides their big scandal. Maybe she has like a friendship with the new creative director. Maybe. But now in thinking about it, maybe they paid her a good amount to sort of like shift the perspective. Because she does like give off like royal energy and it's like you can't get Kate.

12:49like let's get Megan and she did bring a lot of elegance and if that's very elevated if that's the look going forward for Balenciaga then she is a good face for it so like maybe it was a big payday for her but fashion but like they don't make money because nobody's been shopping like as much as celebrities keep going in their shows nobody is shopping Balenciaga the people the streets we remember so I don't even know how they would have a lot of money to give her I was so confused I loved the idea of her stepping out in Paris Fashion Week I think like for the level of celebrity that she's at it's like a very like only top tier people new york fashion week is literally like influencer fast like it's not chic it's not elegant anymore milan fashion week and paris fashion week are so top tier i loved it for her i was like i wonder what show she balenciaga and her outfits are so not balenciaga they're so much better yeah i was shook yeah i kylie was in paris i don't think she went no they went to scaparelli like there are more there are more i know sorry kim went to balenciaga oh wait no did she where was she wearing her pixie cut i don't know i don't think it was balenciaga i thought she didn't go to no because her boy left her which is even weirder that she didn't go this time but like only goes for weird ass demna yeah ugly clothes that's even weirder like now it's like okay demna's not there like everyone can pretend like it didn't happen and like go support balenciaga even though i don't forget personally but I can see why they would think that I might forget um but to like now not go and I'm sure you didn't see this because you don't have TikTok and while I agree that like having TikTok is not the right move for you it makes me sad that you didn't see the video of Ina Garten at the Hermes fashion show in Paris with her Kelly on her lap sitting she's sitting at the end of the front row she has a Kelly on her lap she's watching the clothes she looks so sweet it is bar none the cutest thing I've ever seen she's just wearing like her little black trousers and her black button down.

14:43Like classic Ina Fares. She doesn't look crazy, but she has her Hermes bag on her lap. She's looking so fucking cute. It actually is like the cutest thing I've ever seen. That's really cute because you've been hard on her. I have. She's literally pissing me off. Oh yeah, to close the circle, we did get a food processor. But like not even about the food processor. Even before that, like with her memoir and like the bits and bobs she was sharing. Okay, by the way, one thing about me, I'm a fair person. I love Ina. The name of her memoir sucks. She was wrong for what she did to Martha Stewart. I'm holding space for three truths.

15:11There was also other titillating anecdotes that you sort of shot down. Yeah, about her and Jeffrey. And then you went in on Jeffrey. I did not go in on Jeffrey. I did not. You went in on Jeffrey. I would not. I didn't. Oh, you didn't even mention, make any sort of commentary that I got a haircut. You always have a fresh hair. Yeah, I got a haircut. Just a trim. Not a big deal. guys stop freaking out you get your haircut every three weeks stop freaking out about how different it looks like i know i just wanted to switch it up stop freaking out is this your new la hair yeah i love la but for the record like you did go in on jeffrey i lit okay you know what i did i went in on jeff and you know what he needed it i feel like no one i know he like thinks he's like a protected class like yeah sorry and like i you know i actually can't get into this without going in on him yeah actually yeah i do yeah you have to restrain yourself yeah it's fine okay well i think we should get into what we have to get into because we have a lot to discuss today so without further ado to do to do here are the fast five stories that you do need to know And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Wayfair.

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22:30Like, I think a lot of it is just, like, songs put together, which is what an album is. But hers are always, like, so cohesive, so thematic. And I'm just, like, not understanding the life of a showgirl of it all. But I can get past that. Because every other artist does that and, like, nobody cares. But Taylor's just, like, often better than that. Yeah. And, like, she's being compared to herself where that's not something that she's done before is, like, put out this entire aesthetic and, like, mythology around something. And then it not be that at all, especially one that's so exciting and so ripe for like parginess and creativity.

23:05And then instead it's just like, not that. So can we now do what we did on Friday and go through all the songs? Because now I feel like I have way more to say about each song. Yeah, but what I want to say, I feel like I'm always, you know, very honest in my thoughts about Taylor for better or for worse. And I am a Swiftie and I have been since day one. And I feel like the way I'm enjoying this album. I feel like the experience people are having with this album like I already had with like TTPD of that like disappointment almost of like this person doesn't have a lot new to say doesn't have new ways of saying it and I felt like for TTPD it was so many songs to get about three hits for me three songs that I really like totally songs that I really liked whereas this album is 12 songs and I still got three songs that I really like so I'm like this is more concise this is more fun I feel like for a while I've been feeling like the lyrics are cringe there are cringe lyrics on ttbd yes there are very like even I know people were like joking about like the charlie pooth thing but like that was a really bad lyric line like that and people like got you know had fun with it but it was like we smoked an eight seven bars of chocolate are you gonna tell me what time you went to the bathroom as well like I it's so in the weeds and I feel like so what people are saying about this album is how I felt about ttbd and even a couple songs off midnights where it's like we didn't need this song sounds like some other songs not much new is said like but there are also some incredible songs on that album that like really um make the album and the rest is sort of filler I felt like this album had the less of that filler verbal diarrhea so I was able to enjoy it more yes so we do not align on ttpd because to me ttpd is very much like a sister of folklore evermore which is so my vibe and like yes it's very long-winded and I happen to really like that not you know for when I go on the treadmill every once in a while but like for the most part I love it um yes the cringe lyrics are something they're not new I think a lot of people have ignored her cringe lyrics like even I come back stronger than a 90s trend like even my ex-man bought his new girl I was just singing that song I'm like and when that came out people like felt like that was cringe but it just aged as well because it's yes a catchy beat but the cringe lyrics are not new but i do think as she gets older one they're getting like a little cringier but also relative to her age well it's just like the thing is it's just who she is i feel like we say this a lot like taylor herself it's like a self-proclaimed like choogy millennial so to hear it in like a cool pop song it sounds off but at least it's authentic to who she is and what i was gonna say oh yes so the thing is is that taylor what's different in Taylor's life like she's married I mean excuse me she's engaged this is clearly like a new different type of relationship it's like her biggest yet she's never been engaged um but at the end of the day like what she writes about is love and being in love and when she's writing those songs like about Joe Alwyn now they're not in love but they were so her being in love is like not new and her writing a lot of these songs about you know people are saying she references the music industry which aka is like Scott Borchetta a lot of Kim is definitely referencing one of the songs they want a fat ass and a baby face like we're beating horses dead and there's no newness in terms of content she's writing about love which she's written about before and like the same three scandals in her life and like that's where I feel it's getting repetitive and I selfishly like I'm over it yeah but I actually feel like the songs that she wrote about love on this album and the new love she's experiencing you know like one that's like positive and happy and cute and not like depressing are the best songs like yeah so she actually has something new to say in her relationship with Travis so I don't even think it's like oh you get happy and you get boring like not at all no no um but I do think like the ages old beef that that like I yeah I am a bit sick of those but I'm also sick of like hearing like these like minute details that are so niche to the point of like I'm not like gonna be walking around like singing about this like small thing so So let's go song by song.

27:12Okay. First, The Fate of Ophelia. The Fate of Ophelia. Which is the lead single, I believe. It's also the song that she did a music video for that's now out, but it was in the movie that she released in AMC. I watched a music video. I absolutely loved it. I thought it was so beautiful. She looked insane. I love the different vignettes. It was pargy, and that song is really good. It's kind of what Taylor does best. like a pargy radio pop song that you can't get out of your head yeah I really like this song but now I and I'm getting like I'm getting so much like T-Lo us just commentary in general and another piece we have to talk about is like the song sounding like other songs which I'm like we'll get to that but I saw a commentary about how like her description of Ophelia is actually like not Ophelia's arc in Hamlet like that she's just like waiting in this tower for like a love to be rescued like that's like really not like it's like snow white actually yeah no it sounds like a disney princess and like actually like ophelia like her tragedy said she had no agency like she was like told what to do by her like brother and her dad and like and now it's like i feel like on other albums when she would talk about these like larger concepts like they're so above all of our pay grades that like there's no criticism like what are you right we can't disagree with that we don't know major you don't you know enough and so now it's like to criticize like that or even poke holes in like the fact that she maybe used this reference incorrectly it's like well damn influence well damn travis's influence so but at other before the song was like you know tainted for me by that piece of commentary i this is such a great song it's on my liked love it agreed it's party and usually the first song there's like a little dance usually the first song on the album i always start at number two i never like the first song on her album like fortnight yeah yeah yeah uh i don't agree but yeah but this one actually elizabeth taylor is number two and even though people are saying it's growing on them it's like not really growing on me but that's okay it's a it's like a good it's not a bad song there's only one song that is actually bad on this album and it's called honey um but elizabeth taylor is like a good song if any other like pop girly released it we'd be like it's good like it's I disagree oh really yeah um I don't also like fully understand what she's saying in Elizabeth Taylor yeah I don't really either do you think it's forever Elizabeth Taylor I don't turn it off when I listen to it I'm like it's cute it's fun I like the beat I didn't save it okay did you I don't save music like that when I listen to the album in full and that's how I listen to TTPD and that's why I love TTPD next the best song on the album and the best song I think like on the last three albums not midnights but the others opalite yeah so good it's all right you were dancing through the lightning strike and there are so many theories about what it meant to go from onyx night to opalite jackie cracked the code but people on tiktok are being really crazy about it so i was listening to and it's like we know opalite is travis's birthstone so now the sky is opalite because it's travis's birthstone is this and opalite's also just like beautiful and pargy and she's like so happy and light and bright and she was previously um dancing through the onyx night now every time i hear that lyric i'm like i would have thought she would just say like dancing through the darkest night because if it was like dark times but i'm like wait onyx is that a birthstone yes it is a birthstone for the month of july so i went through recent exes no one's born in july i went all the way back i asked chat gbt they said connor kennedy is the only one so she's not referencing like an old boyfriend clearly um but they met in the month of July so like in July it wasn't Onyx night because it was dark before she met Travis and now she's having opalite yeah there are some like crazy Swifties who think that Onyx night because Onyx is black um they're referencing Taylor uh Taylor they're referencing Travis's ex-girlfriend who's black like people like people are really being crazy about this lyric it specifically but they're also like they've the the woke community is coming for Taylor and a lot of the lyrics and specifically saying that this is a microaggression.

31:18Oh, well, no, I cracked it. I don't think she would be so blatantly racist. No, no, no, you guys, it's just about the month. I cracked it, so there you go. Yeah, Jackie cracked it. They met in July. They met in July. Onyx is the birthstone for July, and the song has a theme of birthstones because it's opalite, which is October. Oh, his birthday was yesterday. Happy birthday to Travis. Happy birthday. I love your cake, Travis. I love your cake, Travi. Yes, agreed. that song is a pussy popping banger yeah and like for me that's like such an amazing song that this makes this album amazing like i got one of my favorite songs that's why i'm enjoying the album yeah it's all right it's just joyful too right and that's like definitely what i gravitate towards joy yeah and that's what i'm saying like she's writing about her love with travis it's a new form of love and it's a beautiful song and it's great and it's fun so it can be done yeah next eldest daughter i'm not a bad bitch there's a lot of cringe lyrics in here but we'll get back to it and this isn't savage i ain't never gonna let you down never gonna leave you out okay there's actually a lyric in here that's trolling and memes like she says the word that's the first sentence that was that's hard to hear it is so it's like she's creating these beautiful melodies and her voice is so beautiful and then she'll say something that just like takes you out of the song and like i'm sorry a song like this can't age well because like memes you know memes like i can't yeah no it's it's rough um and also i heard that the clean version of this song goes I'm not the baddest and this isn't savage I like that better I'm not a bad bitch is like really yucky cringe but it's but the lot the melody is really pretty so it's not a total like miss for me but um same and I understand what she's saying and I actually like what she's saying like in this world of like internet and trolling and just like negativity like she's not like that like she doesn't play like like I actually get it and she's such an eloquent person I feel like there would have been a partier way to say it instead of I'm not a bad bitch and this isn't savage I think I need to start listening to the clean version of the album because I like some of those lyrics that make I heard that about a bunch of songs yeah like for because for the movie theater version it's the clean versions of the song so you could bring your kids oh um that's nice of like the one the lyric that everybody's like dying over actually like actually romantic like make you wet uh we have to talk about that makes you sweat good um then before that was father figure which people are saying it's either about scott borchetta olivia rodrigo or both inverted it's so in the movie theater she says it's about the music industry okay aka scott borchetta okay um i'll be your father oh because my dick's bigger that's like a cringe line that i don't hate yeah i and the first time i heard it i missed it and And then when she said at the bridge, when she turns the tables, because now her dick's bigger.

34:22I was like, well, damn. But in the clean version, it's my check's bigger. I like that. Also good. I like that. Also good. This song is not amazing. It's not terrible. It's fine. It's on the bottom half for me. Yeah. Next is Ruin the Friendship, which, how does the chorus go? It wasn't convenient. How does it go? hold on wait I mean I have them up here I could play it hold on I don't want to hear it should have kissed you anyway oh yeah I don't want to say anything bad about it because it's like obviously about something sad and I think it's also the same person in Taylor's life who Forever Winter was about it's just about like somebody who struggled with mental health so it's like a sweet song I think the lyric about her getting the call from Abigail and having to fly home and it not being convenient.

35:18I think that was a really weird word to use. Convenient. Like, sorry. Sorry that this funeral is not convenient for you. Yeah. Also, her talking about like that she's it's about prom. Well, one thing about Taylor is that she often uses the structure of like high school as a metaphor for stuff. No, it's not. I know what you're saying. but like a lot of people when she released um miss uh miss americana yeah yeah no she's talking about i love the high school metaphor she wears short skirts i wear t-shirts like i love it right she's talking about like 30 years ago her problem yeah and this is a nice song about like something she's been through but i don't understand how it fits into the album from like a bigger perspective especially like 12 bops that we were promised not just a stream of consciousness right and that's what this is it's very ttpd yeah it is maybe it was from the cutting room floor of ttpd yeah but this song had no like this song was like only hit like only the best of the best yeah next actually romantic the charlie xcx song yeah charlie xcx posted actually that she's in the studio so it's giving you know diss track coming back and if i was taylor i'd be really scared like yeah because you know charlie xcx invented brat and if you actually look up the definition of brat like the definition of brat is like having loose morals right and you don't want somebody with loose morals writing a diss track about you like that's that's the scariest thing ever um i don't know why taylor wrote a song about charlie xx even though i'm down like i ride for taylor and taylor versus charlie like i do not fuck with charlie there's this coalition emerging against Taylor.

36:59Yes. I feel like, you know, five years ago, there was one that sort of have moved on with their lives. And even though she talks about them all the time, it's like Kim and Scooter and Justin and like everyone's sort of moved on except for Taylor. But that's fine. They don't like, I don't think get together and meet about like how they're going to take her down. No. I think this coalition of Charlie XCX, Maddie Healy. Billie Eilish. Billie Eilish Lord. um so phineas actually reposted a video that somebody posted that taylor's new album feels spiritually israeli like in a derogatory sense um and phineas reposted everything yes our pro palestinian king phineas and i just want to say i fucking hate phineas um yes there's a big group of losers who hate taylor um it's because they're jealous and yes charlie xdx but i do feel like they have a kind of a strong choke hold on culture and it's like not good for taylor in the pop wars i think taylor will emerge and i'm so firmly team taylor of course like them not liking her makes me like her like her more it's all the people i don't like that don't like taylor so i'm good but it is like a group of crazy people because he's like kim and scooter like they're not crazy they're just like you know no the uh intense business people whatever but like those people are crazy radical where's lord because i kind of put her in that group yeah and people were saying that one of taylor's songs sounds like yellow flicker beat from lord does it from hunger games and i feel like if any like a lot of people are saying a lot like i don't think the jonas brothers are going to sue taylor over cool showgirl i think it's cool for them and they're not they don't want to awake the beast but also i don't know if they necessarily have legal grounds to stand on Like sometimes a song sounds like another song and it's completely within the rights of.

38:48And that's what happened with Ed Sheeran versus the estate of Tom Petty. No, Tom Petty. I think there's both. I think we've had the conversation. Right. So sometime. Oh, no, that was sorry. Sam Smith versus Tom Petty. Both. They both won. Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran. Songs can legally sound the same. There are only so many chords to put together. There's eight notes. But like what Olivia Rodrigo did was use a sample of Taylor Swift's New Year's Day. like that chord progression and not credit it. That's illegal. And that's why Taylor gets a cut of Olivia Rodrigo songs. So I have to imagine if anybody could sue Taylor, they would, but Taylor's not that stupid.

39:25Like some songs might sound like other songs, but in a completely legal way. I'm just saying, just look out. I know that's like a big, that's a big issue for Taylor. And that's what a lot of the Taylor haters are saying. Is that like Taylor's the credit queen, right? She like, you know, took the profits from a teenage girl, Olivia Rodrigo. Olivia Rodrigo is not a teenage girl. Everybody needs to stop calling her that. Oh, sorry. I started this whole point by saying, I almost wish Taylor didn't write this song about Charlie XCX because it's so punching down, right? Like Taylor's the biggest star in the world.

39:53Like who is Charlie? I know Charlie X is having a big moment with Brat, but she's not on the same level as Taylor. She will not be remembered for years to come. And now, like Kim is a worthy adversary for Taylor. Charlie XCX is not. And now this song is, I don't know what's going to come out, but I just know she's going to say like the most horrible things about Taylor. Like there's, like that's just, like she said, brat is loose morals. So you're not going to like hold back. Yeah. And it's just crazy that like she's like it's Charlie XS and she's one of the 12. Right. And there's only 12 songs.

40:25Yeah. The 12 just like holds it to a higher standard. I know. And the song is good. It's fine. Except for the wet line. Like really unnecessary. Clean version. Right. Next is wish list. Okay. So this one, like I love the message. I love the beat. There are a lot of cringe lyrics, but like, I don't care. Yeah. I enjoy it. I really like the message. That's what I had said. And so she's having babies. We didn't need dollar signs. No, but I love the message. It's like, you can want different things. Like for, I feel like Taylor was basically saying, I've always been a girl boss, girl boss, girl boss, career, career, career.

41:00And now she's found this love. Like, and she wants to girl boss and settle down. Like she's settling down. She wants a basketball hoop. She's having a crop of kids. Got the whole block looking like you. I love. Love. Yeah. Love. Next, Wood, which is a song about Travis's penis wrapped in double enchantras. It's a two minute and 30 second song. 230 centimeters is nine inches. It's the ninth song. They're saying Travis is a big, juicy nine inch dick. That's what's being said. And then Taylor's out like celebrating the album with her parents. And Donna is going to like release party song parties.

41:34I don't know. I need to look past the lyrics because I want to say vibe wise, melodically, this is the best song on the album. It is so much fun. It does sound like Jackson 5. By the way, the Jackson 5 is amazing. I love that. I don't know what style of music that is, but it's just like happy music. I love this song. And I really listen to it like blindly in the sense that like I know the words, but I'm not listening to them. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't do me any good. I ain't got a knock on wood. Like, yes. Party. Party. Though I don't love the concept of like writing about penis. the fact that I listened to it the first time, it wasn't so overt.

42:14Like it is more like double entendre. Little Breener. I think she's been influenced by the Breener. I know people are saying like, she's trying to be Sabrina. I think you can be influenced by someone. I think that's okay. Yes. But I also think this is like a real life reflection of what's going on in Taylor's life. Like we have to like take stock of all the people Taylor has previously dated. And I just don't think she was like getting kicked down in the way that she is. Like, yeah, it's giving 500 days of summer. Yeah. Yeah. or like i would be surprised a song like this about like joe or maddie they would be like embarrassed whereas travis yes sick like yeah right yes that is the best one and let's be real like she was not writing songs like this at travis about maddie and joe like it just wasn't going down like that like i just know it like i said 500 days of summer yeah oh my god it's literally raving gates on the bachelor i that's what i was thinking to and now and then i realized like oh it must be that must have been a callback to that movie that you're talking about maybe taylor just watched nick vile season is that who it was whose season was yeah maybe he she just re-watched that season of the bachelor and that was her inspiration you i wouldn't be surprised she loves reality tv and these references i just want to say sometimes i know when taylor's influenced by stuff like the song jumping problems is totally influenced by evelyn hugo I really think that Taylor watched recently 500 Days of Summer and she related to like that him walking to work like with such a giddy smile because he finally got laid.

43:40That's what it feels like. She was like dating this like skinny like shorter than her British man who definitely had bad breath. Like no. And now she's with Travis and it's nine inch cock. Like yeah. Yeah. I've got something to think about. And in the I spoke to a Sachi Oshry this morning. Our Taylor Swift RT Loas correspondent because she went to the movie theater yesterday. I watched her review. I spoke to her and she said that she talks about wood in the movie. Just being like, it's a song about superstition. You know, walking on cracks, knocking on wood. I like that. She said that's all it's about.

44:15And I like that we can think that. Yes, agreed. You know, there's a version for the kids and there's a version for the adults. Except like dickmatize. I didn't need that word specifically. Open my thighs. What the lyric is on the clean version. Hypnotize. Beautiful. Beautiful. next canceled okay this song's getting a lot of hate i love the message good thing i like my it's giving reputation i agree and the first time i heard it i said i like elements of this song there are some cringe lyrics i don't know why the title is in caps with an exclamation point when we're not screaming we're right it's actually very sultry we're singing in a sultry manner so that's like just not congruous for me but i like britney mahomes getting a song like well she's one year in people wait a lifetime she's the friend that's canceled i liked them draped in gucci and in scandal when they went to the u.s open they were all wearing gucci and that was like the peak of her friendship with britney mahomes and everybody's like taylor's friends with maga and like everybody was coming for travis and and taylor and like not being appropriate at the u.s open remember like there was so much scandal with that one event i do believe this is about britney Mahomes amongst other things like all of Taylor's friends have like anytime she's spotted with someone it's like well they once went on a podcast like everybody like Taylor's like annoying fans I think that's what it's referencing yeah does nobody else think that I didn't think it was about Britney specifically and I feel like a lot of her friends could wear Gucci and I didn't see that US Open thing as being like Martin scandal matching Gucci she was wearing Reformation travis and they were wearing gucci there was gucci happening but i don't know and also i don't recall that event being like martin scandal so that's not like where my head goes um of course blake lively like does come to mind a couple things one taylor's wearing a blake lively bracelet in the photo shoot it was like a custom by lorraine schwartz but i do think like two people could have the same bracelet no taylor doesn't overlook details like that um like somebody would to put it together i don't know if it's like a nod to like my bestie blake who i ride for or it's like a reference like this was like blake can't come to the phone right now because she's dead and i stole her bracelet oh interesting i don't know but then this song like makes and her putting it out like at the moment where like blake is right canceled and they're not friends like makes me feel like they actually are still friends and when she says um oh a lot of people say father figures it could be about ryan reynolds too like that that ryan like threatened taylor on behalf of blake being like come defend us or like whatever and she's like well my dick's bigger like i can get my subpoena you know and there's also references to flowers in this canceled song which was the big reason my blake was canceled because she was promoting flowers um because she was promoting flowers and also like did you make a joke only a man could like i feel like the way that like blake is being canceled because like you know her diva behavior on set like if a man did those things like right i don't know i just want to say i hope it's about blake like i don't want blake and taylor to not be friends one i think it's an important friendship for taylor but also like if like it just so it makes the whole thing so much worse for blake lively like and i just i actually hope that they're not yeah but that's why there will be a wedding and a bachelorette party and yeah and taylor said on gram norton everyone's invited yeah next honey which you and i both agree is the worst song on the album and i'm glad that we are aligned on that margot ashtray posted like i feel like we're not talking about honey enough i'm like yeah we're not talking about how on purpose that is enough on purpose we're not talking about it yeah and then life of a show girl featuring brina which is like what we were promised the princess who was promised so many people have made references to this song being very similar to the greatest showman um bar scene where Carlisle, Philip Carlisle and PT did me to the, and it's where this like old and new sort of decide to join forces and work together and then eventually pass the baton on to Zac Efron.

48:13And it's so Olivia Rodrigo-Codan. I'm sorry. Like it's literally Taylor's always talking about how the industry is like trying to push her out, push her out, push her out. But the song really says like the Eros tour made me like, I'm married to the hustle now. Like she, no one can ever, there's not like a new Taylor Swift like Taylor Swift's reach a level that nobody else will ever reach but they're always like new new new and it's like her totally like passing the baton on to Briner like she's okay with Briner being like the next Taylor but Taylor's not going anywhere the song is just melodically sonically so good but listen to the lyrics it's so Philip Carlisle coded and that's exactly what happened the greatest showman but like I feel like people really there is no Taylor next Taylor I agree with that and like Taylor's here to stay but like Like there's so many girls who she brings up with her.

48:57Like what about Gracie Abrams? She doesn't get to be a part of this conversation because she's not part of Olivia V's Breener. But like Taylor's done the same thing for her. She's collabed with her on songs. She had her open for her. Like she has gotten as far. Gracie Abrams is not threatening to Taylor Swift's place in music at all. Sabrina is a little and Olivia Rodrigo was. Gracie is a little because of her songwriting abilities. Okay. But you know Gracie's like songwriting abilities are all that girl Audrey Hobart. No, I don't know that because I like, why would I know that? Audrey. Yeah. Do you know the song?

49:30What's that girl's song? I can't remember. Whatever. Like she writes a lot with this girl, Audrey, and then Audrey just released her own album. And it's like literally that's the Gracie Abrams vibe, like the talking, the not breathing singing. It's this girl, Audrey. So I'm just saying, I don't think Gracie Abrams poses a real threat to Taylor's ability, like her passing the baton to Gracie. It's like, no, actually, you actually can't reach. Okay, I'm just saying there are a lot of people who, like, we just go, like, for Brina versus Olivia because it's titillating. Olivia Rodrigo is all over this album.

50:03Like, she just is. But I do think from a songwriting perspective, like, Olivia Rodrigo would be amongst the next Taylor Swift's that we have. Yes, of course. That's why, like. Yeah. Yeah. So that is your Tiloas recap. Oh, and then she announced, like, acoustic. Matt oh my god by the way read the room girl she has to stop doing that yeah it's what people always criticize her for and like there's so much Taylor criticism that's just like I just say you hate her like your reasoning sucks this is so valid and no and she said she kept saying names there's 12 songs and you're not getting any more whereas like when she did Midnight's and then like Midnight's 2am version it's like well we never thought we weren't getting more but so to say that we're not getting more and then we get five more and they're like acoustic mashups with like so many words it's just a lot so here are the the songs that she's releasing life of a song life is a song acoustic version with opalite life is a song acoustic version and ruin the friendship my advice version what dressing room rehearsal version with wishlist settled down acoustic version and the life of a showgirl dressing room rehearsal acoustic version alone in my tower acoustic version with the fate of ophelia alone in my tower acoustic version and eldest daughter now your home acoustic version and um you how can you listen to these songs not even on spotify there are four four limited cd releases each including two acoustic bonus tracks on her site now for 24 hours but if you want all the different versions you need to buy all four cds now this is her way of like gaming you know the charts and making herself the most you know downloaded streamed in cd and i get it like releasing multiple a lot of people release different versions sabrina released like a couple of different covers taylor has now released like four or five vinyls with different covers and there's so much imagery coming out of Taylor's camp like different music videos photo shoots alternative covers every single picture I see is 50 times better than the one she chose for the cover just saying yeah she has already sold like 2.7 million copies on day one of life of a showgirl which is the second best for an album's first week in history and she's on what was the first best number one is Adele's 25 which sold 3.4 million albums and like it even if Taylor happens to sell 3.5 million like it's not as impressive that was three honestly Adele Adele's not doing multiple covers and vinyl signed on her website 4 million people buying Adele's album right with Taylor's 2.7 it's like a million people buying three different versions of it yeah that's that's a very valid criticism of Taylor it's also just like so wasteful oh billy eilish okay no it is i'm not billy eilish don't ever call me that that's like the most insulting thing you can call me i just feel like it's so um stupid yeah like i don't care about like the material waste it's just like oh i'm sorry i wasn't talking about like the recycling of it all like people's money like it's wasteful yeah but people get to choose what they spend their money on no one is forcing you to buy no the shiny bug collection um I just feel like it's so like in your like drinking your own kool-aid like in your own shit like it's just like it's not necessary yeah I agree but um people can do what they want as they please including her if she wants to put out some more vinyls are you ready for our next story yeah at last the weirdest story i've ever shared um ex-jets quarterback mark sanchez acted erratically and body slammed a truck driver before being stabbed in indianapolis cops say we are always talking about mark sanchez i just want to say that like remember during covid um we found out mark sanchez like was a toaster and then i went live on instagram with him like because like whatever no i honestly don't remember that oh you don't remember when i went live on instagram with Mark Sanchez?

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53:54No, but I do remember we were just talking about him. We're always talking about Mark Sanchez. You guys don't realize. And now our work has paid off because he is headline news. And like now he's like headline news for this. But before this, he was like, you know, a very low level sports broadcaster when I was in high school. He is still a sports broadcaster. Yeah, but when we were in high school, Mark Sanchez was like the hottest thing on the planet. He was coming to the Jets to save us. He was like this hot young thing. There was like a two year period where he was on the cover of the New York Post every single day.

54:22Like he was, he had such promise, such potential. And now he's like beating up older gentlemen in backyards. Like when I saw this headline, at first it was just Mark Sanchez stabbed. Stabbed and hospitalized. Holy shit, not my Mark Sanchez. I was like, no. At first it was like tragic news that he was stabbed and in the hospital in critical condition. And then it was also like, and he's arrested there. Then things started to take a turn saying like he was arrested. There was footage of him in an alley. And the other man who was stabbing Mark in self-defense was 69 years old. and he's a truck driver now you give everyone the details i'm finally going to get my la croix former jex quarterback mark sanchez was acting erratically reeked of booze and was slurring his words when he body slammed an elderly grease truck driver just before he was stabbed in the chest in indianapolis the 69 year old driver said he stabbed sanchez several times in self-defense after the attack telling cops this guy is trying to kill me court documents say grim photos we also of photos of the alleged victim the truck driver those photos show him wearing a neck brace and covered in blood lying bruised and battered in his hospital bed his family says he was cut in the fight and it went through his cheek and hit his tongue oh and um like mark was drunk mark was that's what the guy told the police he was like slurring his words starting stuff seriously i never thought i'd say these three words fuck mark sanchez what the fuck is wrong with starting fights with like older people like pick on someone your own size first of all you're a former athlete messing with this older gentleman i hope he sues the fuck out of mark where's the gofundme i'm so upset yeah and like what were they arguing what was even the catalyst i think it was like a pedestrian like can you move your car like a parking thing that's how it started like can you move your car you're in my way get out of my way the hotel said this like something so silly that's so crazy that's fuck mark sanchez yeah it just began as a disagreement escalated into violence like like if you find yourself as like an able-bodied young man um fighting with a 69 year old like you are doing something wrong shouting at him and like in his face but the man couldn't hear because he wears hearing aids but he oh stop i'm gonna kill myself wait i'm really out because the frying oil um truck that he works the grease truck gets really loud so he took out his hearing aids and that and so when mark yelled at him he couldn't hear him so he had to get in his face oh my god that detail made me so upset no like what the fuck is mark sanchez doing fuck mark sanchez like fuck mark sanchez i'm so upset oh my god that little detail just made me like really upset no it's it's actually absurd uh hopefully since i we know more soon because like what like i just don't understand how and what they're wait that's so upsetting him and his hearing aids i don't know weirdest story the weirdest yes so we'll stay tuned for deets on that yeah um our next story some more legal news diddy has been sentenced to four years in prison after a mixed verdict in his federal prosecution prostitution trial so this doesn't feel like a lot of time like i know if i was sent to prison for four years like it would be the longest four years of my life it's an eternity but just in the grand scheme of things you know i'd love to compare it to like the chrisleys i don't know how you get accused of like all he You got to keep something to go to jail for four years.

57:50But he didn't get like convicted of everything. I think he got like convicted actually of like the smaller things. The smaller stuff. I also feel like the trial. I don't know if everything like came to light. If it was like a successful. Well, we were promised a list. I don't know if it was like a successful prosecution. You know? Yeah. And I'm sure like the sentence will be probably shorter than. Overcrowding. Which is apparently a real thing. He's like, behavior. So, I don't know. And is he going to Rikers? Oh, but also, he's like low-key been in jail already for like a year or two. And that counts towards your sentence.

58:29So, while you're like waiting trial if you can't get out because he was, you know, without bail, he has been in Rikers for at least a year, maybe two. Yeah. Because we were in the old studio. I remember when we were talking about it. So, he could get out in two years because it counts towards your sentence. That's so crazy. That is so crazy. He'll also have to pay the court a fine of$500 ,000 as well as participate in programs for his mental health and substance abuse issues. There is no restitution. Cool. Okay. That was like a whole big nothing burger. Yeah. It always is. It always is. There were no cameras inside the court, but there are illustrations.

59:07I know. And those illustrators, like, they go hard. You know, they put their own spit. I love those court illustrations. but high profile cases that are not televised i just i can't i feel like it's like a i know it's state by state they all have their own laws but it should be like a public service like a part of his punishment like you know the shame of having your trial televised yeah just saying so that's the latest with that are you ready for our fourth story if it's our fourth story that's brought to by Bear Bells. I feel like we talked about Bear Bells a lot during my health era. Another official sponsor of the toast, which is so exciting.

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1:04:16I know, you literally have. Come over here. I could try Tertra. open up our fourth story is made for claudia two of her favorite topics in this world one hillary let me think oh and two role model sally guest it's not my favorite topic i just like like to keep you in the know because we've so i wish you could have seen me on saturday jackie i took ruby for a walk these three hot young thangs came up to me they're like are you Claudia from The Toast? Girls or boys? 16. Like they were so young. I was like, you guys know me? You recognize me? And sometimes like young people come up to me and they're like from TikTok, you know.

1:04:55Then again, we love The Toast. That's amazing. It's probably because you've been keeping us abreast of who comes out at role model concerts. And I'm so glad you brought this up. Hilary Duff did an amazing job. She was a great Sally. So you should understand the headline here. Hilary Duff makes a surprise appearance on stage at Role Models ACL Fest as Sally. Claudia has been keeping us abreast that Role Model, who is a singer, who sings a song. He's very TikTok-y. He's like a young guy. He doesn't have, he dated Emma Chamberlain, which is how everyone knows him. His name is Tucker, but he goes by the stage name Role Model and his big hit is, oh shit, here we go again.

1:05:31I'm falling head first. Telling them in a soda, hotter than a fever. Sally. And so when he performs it live, he does this cute little thing he'll bring out a girl and she's the Sally for the night she comes on stage and she sings and dances at first it was fans and then it was like influencers Jake Shane you know but he's really leveled up. Jake Shane was Sally? Jake Shane was like one of the first Sallies. Wow Jake Shane doing big things. Huge. Then it really caught on to be like this big thing and he started getting like huge names Olivia Rodrigo has done and he's not like an enormous artist like it's worth mentioning it's just like this big song um Olivia Rodrigo's done it Kate Hudson did it and then over the weekend he performed at Austin City Limits and he brought out Hilary Duff who like is Sally and Sally's just like sort of this all-American swirly and what people do with the platform is really interesting Kate Hudson has been like everyone's favorite because she's so it's like Sally's a girl in a rom-com you know you hear the song and it's just like fun loving gal and you just like get up there there's no choreography you just like let him sing to you and you like dance and you're like cute and fun and you engage with the crowd some people have been terrible some people have been good Kate Hudson has been amazing and Hilary Duff crushed Even though there's like nothing to crush, you don't do anything.

1:06:42She crushed. No. She crushed. I agree. I haven't seen footage of other people being Sally, but I know about the Sally concept. I didn't have any expectations, but I could see that Hilary Duff was doing a good job. It's literally Girl in a Rom-Com, which she has been. So maybe that's why she like flipped her hair around. She did a little dance and she also knew the words. Not just people coming on stage and Natalie Portman and not knowing the words. Yeah, she knew the words. She sang along. She had her cute little mini skirt. She's coming back to music. She's doing her docuseries. Yeah, I feel like a lot of the times it's like people with kids who like love Tucker because he's really like young for like young teenagers.

1:07:15So I could see like Kate Hudson's kids like liking him. And that's why she just agreed to do it, even though I could see also him have written the song about her. Like she's so Sally. Got it. And speaking of Sally, I know you're obsessed with Alex Earl's friend Sally. And huge news for Sally over the weekend. A video was posted because there was like rumors that she was dating Fibula. Right. And she is dating Fibula. There was a video of them kissing, like sitting on the couch. Not me seeing Fibula three days ago and he didn't tell me the girlfriend I'm so upset. That's huge for Fibula. Yeah. No, it's huge.

1:07:41Okay. So it's huge because also like Fibula has a podcast with a girl. He like hosts with a girl. And everybody like ships him and the girl, even though they're like, they're truly just friends. But there's like all these theories that like they're in love. But he like has a girlfriend. So that's like tough for the people who, you know, think that theory. So like their podcast community on TikTok, they were like burning it down. They were so upset. I'm sure Sally's getting hate, but I'm sending Sally love. Sally's definitely getting hate. As always. Sally and her 24-hour birthday. Never forget.

1:08:09right are you ready for our fifth and final story yeah it's some news news by the way we should do like a weekly segment like what that just was like turdys like gen z corner where like I just like tell you about what's going on with the youth for sure but you typically do like send me stories if you want to talk about them like gen z things I don't need like a segment to like share my passions I was just saying like we can definitely do turdys gen z corner but can you make up a better name i kind of like love it you do turdy's gcc gcc i love i kind of love the gen z corner and it just like it won't happen like in installments because like gen z is gonna gen z and i can't commit to doing it does happen then we then say and that was how was turny gen z's it no and that's how turny gen z sees it because it's as you say oh sure sure that's good that's good i love that collaboration collaborative our fifth and final story is some news news news about the news oh barry weiss has been named editor-in-chief of cbs news at as paramount acquires the free press so i thought you were gonna say some new news and maybe they decided who's gonna permanently fill in for jenna and hoda like what is taking them so long that would also be news news because it just reminded me over the weekend i thought about this too and i texted justin sylvester and i was like why aren't they giving you that job like it's so obviously justin sylvester yeah hoda went on andy and watch happens live and andy asked who do you want to replace you and he literally said justin sylvester what did justin say when you texted him he was you know always the diplomat very political like oh it's been such an honor to be yeah and I'm like bitch it should be you it's so annoying and now it's like the Jeopardy thing I don't like I forgot about it I don't even care who they choose but I cannot believe they still haven't chosen someone yeah uh it's been almost a year I don't know I'm I'm off of it now and I I doubt that it will be like someone very exciting and even if they are exciting it's like sad because we're no longer excited yeah and if it's not Justin like I won't be excited like even if they chose me I wouldn't be excited like I want it to be Justin it's it's his job to lose yeah for the show that you don't watch correct but uh best believe I would be watching yeah that's true um anyways this has been like in the works for a while there's been a lot of rumors about it rumors but it's now confirmed Barry put out like a video today and her podcast saying like the free press which is like her original was a media company that she started after she left the new york times um which is like a subscription media company but they also have like free articles has been acquired a newsletter that like is immensely popular it's a pretty like middle ground politically it's very centrist yeah that's like the whole purpose of it right a lot of people i know like on multiple different sides of the political aisle subscribe to it because she has like lots of different people writing for it and we had her sister co-host when i was a maternity she does like the pop culture she does the pop culture beat barry sister suzy they're like four girls also one of the best episodes of jackson friends everyone was obsessed suzy was so good and the free press is just it's really great it's really like for everyone who's interested in like news and like culture interesting takes has been acquired by paramount plus or paramount in general and barry paramount owns cbs right paramount acquired free press and barry will be the editor in chief of cbs news which is like a big is that like is that like the website or like the tv channel both cbs news in general the brand i didn't even know that was like a job you could have so like those two brands are will probably be like merging in some sense which is just interesting which would make like interesting television yeah i also feel like this marks like a huge moment in like there's so much traditional news media like tv radio that's been around forever and then like the new you know sub stack and people uh social media and this is like the kind of the first big merger yeah this is like a major shift yeah i wonder what this means i think it will be good i think it'll be like more opinions more content she's like done an amazing job of like doing like a multimedia company and internet since she left the new york times in 2020 so like what she'll do with the cbs newsroom and budget like i think i think it's a net positive and i think it's exciting for the industry you love to see a woman in male-dominated spaces specifically a jewess and a toaster and a toaster by osmosis no i think barry's a toaster she's so toasty suzy really like was i i watched the episode really giving like everyone comes on and like you know is amazing and like but she was like so serious about like like the stuff that we talk about because like she takes it as seriously as we know she's like an intellectual who's like deeply invested in pop culture it's such a great combination yeah she's like an intellectual who's meeting us down here yeah no it's a great episode if you want to get a sense of what they do over there in a pop culture sense watch that episode with suzy um you love to see toasters in high places so i am going to dive into the love is blind recap um and you tell me when it's time to take i'll just give my cursory thoughts i hate this show i hate everyone why is everyone leaving um and why is like okay so i feel like actually do you remember that guy who's like suing Love is Blind.

1:13:36Yes, Nick and Danielle. Nick and Danielle, Nick. It's funny how like I can't remember. I don't know anyone's names on this season that I'm watching. You texted me like Joe is weird. I'm like seriously who's Joe? I've never heard that name. Nick and Danielle, right here, top of my head. So he was like suing Netflix and the production company for like his mental health and how he's homeless now and it was like really like made it some serious allegations about the production's behavior. So I feel like they're like trying to negate that by like letting people go and not following them around with cameras.

1:14:06Like, bitch, follow Anne home. Why did you, like, are we never here? I'm only on episode three, but like, are we not hearing from Anne ever again? And then that other guy, Blake, oh, Anna. And then Blake went home. And we're just letting them go. And I like how they had the producer, like they left that scene and the producer talking to Blake being like, whatever you need to do for your mental health, go. It's like, okay, Nick wrote that script. Oh, that's so funny that that's how you saw it. I'm also just like, at least give us kernels that these people are like, sort of like struggling or not thriving in this experiment.

1:14:33because like when I saw Anna she was like crushing it and in love she was like no her and Patrick were really getting along everyone who spoke to her like was really dazzled by her like she's crushing it so why would this person who's literally like miss congeniality miss popular be like having a heart what am I missing they should have like showed us or did something happen like they always like leave crumbs of like you know someone will say something in the pod that is going to come home to roost later yeah and they give us that crumb and they gave us like no indication or no crumbs that these two individuals were like having a hard time or suffering I don't think something happened I I don't know what happened though I just I think that like yeah maybe it's just like their mental health but like there obviously had to have been footage where they're like not thriving in the experiment and it just would have been nice to have like an inkling of that yeah as opposed to like she's literally about like she her and Patrick have just established that they are like each other's number one for each other and she leaves same with Blake and yes if one thing will derail this entire season it's Sparkle Megan it's Sparkle Megan's nickname of Sparkle Megan because as an individual she's completely fine yeah I like her so I have seen three reveals and I'll talk about what my thoughts are on the couples and then I'll take my headphones off what was the I'm never gonna remember the first couple's name Anton and Allie yeah what was special about them I was half watching the first episode So gorgeous.

1:15:57Okay. I literally don't remember. I didn't really watch their connection. But do you even know, can you visualize them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. But like, what's their thing? Nothing. Okay. I think they related on something. We didn't get a lot of their connection, but they obviously have the strongest one because they showed us their engagement first. Even though everyone gets engaged on the same day. Yeah, of course. The second couple was names I don't know. red dress and the guy who was like very clearly not in Joe Joe and what's her name it's a great question Joe and red dress red dress yeah that was genuinely painful especially because I really liked their connection in the pods like I thought for sure that it was a match that's big that you even were watching that closely to have an opinion okay sorry that was definitely an exaggeration I have no idea what their connection in the pods is all I know is she is the one who is going blind blind therefore oh right that's so crazy is blind love might be blind in the future love is blind means even more to her yeah um and i feel sad for her and like i just know it's going to be like a painful honeymoon and i feel sad and i'm really sorry that she signed up for the show the third couple i saw get engaged was edmund and calambria two people have never been more perfect for one another ben thinks that they're like the most amazing cutest couple ever he like can't get over how much they are um sure I don't know where they find these people they are they are perfect for each other they're a little freaky pop off the first few episodes I was more distracted mentally I was like having a lot of like conversations on the side like I was on my phone and I was talking to Zach and we were like just a lot going on in her life going on so those three couples I have no idea what they connected over and if it's like strong or anything the latter couples that get together well I don't know who ends up so should I yeah because I have nothing to say about what you've seen the extra three couples which are Patrick and Casey and Sparkle Megan and Jordan and I don't know if I'm gonna remember the sixth couple oh well uh Nick and Amy sure um I think those are like maybe given what I've seen like more of the stronger couples even though I will say I thought Megan was right to choose Jordan over Mike I'm sorry his name was um because she was just like Jordan was just like a lot lighter and happier and like made her feel like like just life was like lighter with him however what you don't see about Jordan in the pods which I guess Mike had seen behind the scenes and maybe this was what he was alluding to when he was trying to put Jordan down is that like Jordan is extremely immature and the way he is at that mixer on the honeymoon with all the guys was seriously so awfully cringe like I guess in the pods you don't get a sense of what a guy is like with his bros his sense of humor was so off so unfunny of course Joe's was too and they were like you know takes two to be unfunny and like bad fiancés but um I expected more from Jordan whereas Joe's just seems to be spiraling he's obviously like not happy in his connection and his relationship and isn't trying to like make it work whereas Jordan and Megan seem like two serious people of course he has a son and like they are serious about each other I think they'll take this experiment much more seriously so for him to behave like that was like really icky and if I were her like I don't I couldn't see past that I'd be like oh you're two different people when you're with me alone and when you're with your friends and I don't like that goodbye then Nick and Amy at some point like is he ever going to tell her that he told two people that he loves them in the pods because that was weird Other than that, I think they're actually a really good fit.

1:19:42They seem really pleased with how the other one looks. And they seem really like actually a good connection, which is nice. Casey and Patrick, that was insane to watch. It was seriously one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever watched. I was jumping out of my skin watching him, like watching her touch his face, like so tactile while also like breaking up with him, but not actually saying it. Saying like, I love you. I'm sorry. I can't. And he's like, so are we still together? She's like, I love you. I'm sorry. Like he has no idea that they're broken up. She is so manipulative, especially when in the pods, like when she felt like she was losing him, she just wanted to get him so badly.

1:20:16And she just starts like throwing like all this sex talk out there, which is just like such low hanging fruit to like, you know, get a man to want to have sex, like be with you. So I don't know why she went so hard for that when she was like ready to throw in the towel two seconds after meeting him. I'll wait to talk about that scene more with Claudia when she watches it, because like I seriously can't. You're good. I'm back. Yeah. Some of these scenes that I've seen, there are a couple of like crazy scenes that like I've just touched on. But when you watch them, like we have to go in. Claudia, some of the most uncomfortable television I've ever watched in my life.

1:20:51Can't wait. And that's what we get for sitting through five pod episodes. And we've earned that. Right. Right. Even though it was hard to watch. Like it wasn't enjoyable. This is the definition of a Nalafi. And we kind of need to get it out to people. So I am making a judgment call. That's the end of the episode. That's the end of the episode. anything we didn't say like we have every other day four more days yep four more days thank you guys so much listen to the chosen Monday morning show where we deliver the best five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so if you listen to YouTube oh no no wait no I forgot I have to redo it shit I hope everybody enjoyed watching this on Spotify oh I wanted to say to our Spotify swirlies the same way that our audio comes out immediately and then the YouTube video takes like an extra hour it's the same with Spotify so the Spotify audio is going to come out instantly just like it does on all the audio platforms and then probably an hour later the video goes up like it does on YouTube so that's just maybe today a little longer given the Nalafi of it all right thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast of Millennial Morning Show where we deliver the fast five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube and Spotify fuck you know what just like we love you so much you're the best keep coming back podcast anywhere podcast we found so that Spotify is in Stitcher public radio I already cast Fox all the places we live in this podcast find out so don't leave a faster view of Ed Weevil Sending and Wickedly Talented we are love ya bye leave a message

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