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The Toast Podcast Episode Summary Episode Title: I Love Your Show, Toast: Tuesday, September 16th, 2025
Overview In this episode of *The Toast*, hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry delve into various pop culture topics, celebrity news, and advice segments. The episode features discussions on recent entertainment highlights including Coachella's lineup, personal anecdotes, and a segment dedicated to listener advice.
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Key Highlights
Celebrity News
- Coachella 2026 Lineup Announcement
- Headliners: Sabrina Carpenter, Justin Bieber, and Karol G.
- Discussion on the significance of the lineup and the excitement surrounding the festival.
- Claudia expresses that Sabrina will likely draw the most crowds.
- Reba McEntire's Family Update
- Reba discusses how her late stepson, Brandon Blackstock's children, are coping with their loss.
- Reba shares her engagement to Rex Linn, highlighting her resilience and supportive family dynamics.
- Dakota and Elle Fanning's New Projects
- The Fanning sisters discuss their careers and the upcoming film adaptation of *The Nightingale*.
- Insight into their personal growth, experiences, and the impact of sibling dynamics on their careers.
- Demi Lovato's New Album Announcement
- Lovato reveals her ninth studio album titled *It’s Not That Deep*, showcasing a shift towards a more upbeat and liberated musical direction.
- Jackie and Claudia share their thoughts on how Lovato's past influences her current music.
- Love Island's Iris Kendall and TJ Palma
- Iris and TJ are seen together post-breakup with Pepe Garcia-Gonzalez.
- Discussion on the dynamics of reality TV relationships and the public's interest in them.
Advice Segment
Dear Toasters (52:24)
- Submission 1: A listener expresses frustration with her intrusive mother-in-law during her pregnancy.
- Advice: Jackie and Claudia suggest setting boundaries and prioritizing her own comfort and experience.
- Submission 2: A listener feels ungrateful regarding her birthday gifts—a meat thermometer and an umbrella.
- Advice: The hosts encourage clear communication about expectations in gift-giving, emphasizing understanding and training partners in this area.
- Submission 3: A listener contemplates funding her own engagement ring to expedite the proposal process.
- Advice: Focus on allowing her partner to take the lead while expressing her desires. The discussion emphasizes the importance of mutual respect and understanding in relationships.
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Reflections
- The episode showcases Jackie and Claudia's humor, chemistry, and genuine insights into the complexities of relationships, celebrity culture, and personal growth.
- Their advice segments highlight the importance of communication and boundaries in personal relationships, making the episode relatable for listeners navigating similar challenges.
Key Takeaways
- Coachella 2026 promises exciting performances but also reflects changing music industry dynamics.
- Personal Relationships: Setting boundaries and effective communication are essential for navigating family dynamics and personal expectations.
- Celebrity News is intertwined with personal anecdotes, showcasing how hosts draw connections between their lives and the lives of celebrities.
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Conclusion This episode of *The Toast* provides a delightful mix of humor, celebrity gossip, and practical advice, making it a compelling listen for fans of pop culture and personal development. Subscribe for more insights and discussions from Jackie and Claudia every weekday!
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:20I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Chosen Happy Tuesday and I choose you, Follet. Today, tomorrow, and every day. I choose you, Gisseltank. I choose you forever and a day. I feel like not enough people know about forever and a day. Do you want to tell them? This is just like weekly lore. I feel like once a week. It's actually weekly Jackie lore. We've been kind of exposing Jackie. I have a lot of lore in my life. I feel like I'm a very interesting individual. songs have been written about me yeah like what was it for a birthday it was for our one year anniversary when Jackie and Zach first started dating he wrote her a country song and let me tell you it's the best song I sing it all the time I find myself singing it whenever I say the phrase oh me oh my which I kind of say a lot oh my love let me sing it for everyone so they could really like hear it because they know I'm the singer here oh me oh my love like this comes once in a lifetime that's how i know i got my girl and i'm never letting go go i don't know how it goes after that one hun dopey it's the best thing that's happened to me that's how i stay loving you forever and a day it was so good he recorded it it was the cutest thing ever and let me tell you the song eight down yeah no the song left no crumbs my husband is actually like very musical as am i but he like raps and i think growing up he like his bar mitzvah theme was hip-hop yeah growing up he used to like write raps and like he liked to like play around with music and then when we started dating and i love country music he wrote me a country song and he recorded it in a studio and gave it to me and it's it's such a good song because like if someone's gonna write a song about you like it better be good right you have to sit there and listen to it like and it was so good everyone would sing it and then at our wedding he like sang it to me like drunk on the dance floor not in a serious way and like yeah don't worry but like all of our friends and family know the song because when he wrote it for me like we all shared it so like the whole wedding was singing oh me oh my love and it was just it was like a late night moment not like a babe no like singing you down the aisle and it was extremely lit so that's something cool about me it is just like a fun fact it's so good i'm telling you i sing it I'm like oh me oh my love like this comes well I can never remember that one hundo p because we that was when he wrote it like people used to say hundo p a lot and it's kind of a a time capsule it is and he and I used to say it a lot it was like a a core joke in our relationship in our relash oh it's so cute I love it and I stay loving you bitch forever and a day mofo thank you I love you forever and day as well mofo i love you you're so beautiful why thank you so much i'm really trying to like look like a human being on this show because we can't believe you didn't say anything that you're wearing my sweatshirt yeah well the sweatshirt's mine now because i stole it directly from your closet but and like you didn't know and it was yeah no let me tell you why it makes it mine because i was wearing the sweatshirt when i found out i was pregnant with ruby so it's mine now right no and it was still mine no there's like a huge stain on the wrist from me it's mine but it's so mine it's Botticelli uh possessions nine tenths of the lawn like once you stain something you own it okay just watch your back little girl oh no I'm afraid of the pregnant woman looking so parche in her little brown outfit oh my gosh thank you so much getting dressed at this stage like has been a feat I have a lot of challenges to overcome I need to give a shouts out to one of our sponsors actually cakes i love your cakes cakes because one of my many issues is like nippleitis in pregnancy i feel like my boobs show through everything so i've been wearing their grippies in my bras i was doing it all summer when i was wearing like athletic dresses just things that are like sort of thin and i wanted to wear like a cute little t-shirt a girl and a t but like we don't need the headlights on you know who yeah no it's hard to be a girl and a t at this stage spotlights on so um cakes has been like saving my arse They're a toast sponsor.
4:27They're a toaster-owned business. They went on Shark Tank. They have stickies and grippies. But I like the grippies. I just, like, put them in my bra. They're actually one of the sponsors today. So stay tuned for an offer I got for you guys. Not to tease. We also have Dear Toasters. Kind of a teasy kind of day. We're all about the synergy. I feel like that's such a good call. I think when you're, like, at the late stages of pregnancy, like, your nipples are getting ready to breastfeed. So they become enormous. And they show through everything. Yeah. So you want to, like, put something. I feel like some people start using their like lactation devices beforehand.
5:01But those leave marks. Yeah. No, but I've been using these grippies and like I'm smooth. You're looking smooth as butter. You're looking like a sexy little piece of dark chocolate today. I just want to take a little nibble out of you. Thank you, Jissel. Rare. Claude's name is Jissel. No, I really don't like the nickname. And I'm going to like tell you, I need you to change it. I know. It's going through a flow. But so this summer she's she's Koji when she is like in ant mode. and so all summer let's start from the beginning let's start from the cover koja is what the koja is what the kids used to call me they didn't really call you it we tried to like dumb down your name so that they would so they could say it say your name more so we start with koja and then it kind of turned into koja so like we always tell the kids koja koja koja to make it easy so that they like feel inclined to say her name and it worked by the way you see these kids they're like koja koja i love you you're skinny koja i love you you're beautiful they always say anti koja yeah And then this summer, like, we were calling her Koji all summer because she was in Animal all summer.
5:57So it morphed into, like, Koji. And then Kojis. Yeah. Then Jissy. Right, of course, for short. Drop the Ko. Jissy. And now Jissel. And now Jissel Tank. And I'm going to need you to evolve once again because I'm not loving it. I will. Just let me. I think you know by now. Just let me go on my journey. Oh, yeah. And to be clear, make sure your journey doesn't include just calling me Tank. Because at my current stage, I don't think I would be able to take it, honestly. Okay. Tank-a-lish? No? No. Like, seriously, no. Okay. We'll walk that back. I've given you free reign to call me whatever you want.
6:40So much so that I embrace being called Turdy. Okay? Do not call me Tank. Okay. We're going to walk it back. We're going to workshop. Me and my elves. Walk it back. Walk it back. Okay? We're going to pivot. What did I do last night? What did I watch? I wanted to watch something that I could talk about on the toes. Oh, it's Dancing with the Stars Day. That's exciting. I've been seeing so much Dancing with the Stars stuff. I am riding hard for Team Whitney Leavitt. I really think she's going to win, though. Jen Affleck is going to give her a run for her money. I also think Alex, you know, the thing about Alex Earl is she's so perfect looking.
7:14She's like, it's like she's obviously going to win. She's young. She's able-bodied. She's in amazing shape. She's actually kind of like not a good dancer. in the sense of like not super super coordinated that's like her thing she's like kind of like ditzy haha and so I've been watching her tiktoks of like really she's really trying hard like I think she's going to be most improved but Whitney's coming into this like a perfect I think Whitney has a career there I think she might have been a dance minor or something like she has background in dance she's got rhythm she's got riz like some people just have that like dance yeah flair bug alex doesn't she'll be a great contestant but like i would be shocked if she won i am rooting for her though me too i'm there's a lot of people that i'm rooting for just want to say once again i'm not rooting for glebs samchenko i'm rooting i'm praying on his downfall okay yeah i finished love thy nader last night you were missing one episode i was missing one episode and you were right that whatever we saw for next is like a preview a trailer the second half of the season not got it not next week coming out damn yeah glad to know that Jules like didn't father a child out of wedlock though I never thought he did and then Mary Beth Holland came up on my Instagram or no TikTok and she had made a TikTok with him like a week ago so they're still together I know I was really worried about her throwing her whole life away for this reality show but thankfully she only threw her career away her personal life is still intact yes and I don't mind her prioritizing the show over her relationship at this moment like she shouldn't move to LA without an engagement agreed um I think the show is a really good business for her like if it was just like I'm gonna do modeling instead of moving to LA I'd be like girl just go to LA but like the show she's doing it with her sister she should be there for it at least until he proposes that's I would love for the show to go across the pond when he takes her family to Wimbledon like I know Brooks isn't there but that's something I would definitely like to see maybe they do I think they filmed all summer I'm obsessed yeah very exciting and now they're so in the press like yeah everywhere every day that I'm looking for stories it's like Nader sisters here Nader sisters there no I love it yeah it's exciting what did I watch I say why am I having such a hard time remembering I called you didn't I yeah what was I watching what was I saying i put on hulu i recall because hulu's where it's at these days sorry like yeah everything goes in waves i just yeah it does every app has their moment surge yeah yeah wait i feel like i'm going crazy what did i watch last night i don't know i had to be early to bed it was a co-sleeping night it was an etb kind of night yeah so i just had to lay there in the dark love that i went to bed at 8 30 there's like right now I'm in my era of prioritizing rest I don't know when I'm not but yeah no but that's that's good you know tomorrow's my wedding anniversary it is what is the year 2017 till now eight three and five three and five right that's how I did the math as well um yes my eight year wedding anniversary and it's so funny we have a fab dinner reservation I feel like every time we celebrate a wedding anniversary i start saying the next year so it's like we celebrated our ace when people ask them again we're married nine years so i've been saying it's our eighth wedding anniversary for almost a year and now it feels like you've been married no time at all correct well eight years what how'd you say you're celebrating we have a pardy dinner reservation at a pardy hot spot oh wow do you think you'll be able to focus on romance with all the heat in the air no at heat no from the hot spot oh yes at this particular restaurant like not only can i i i have like many memories of never being able to like look at the person that i'm with because you just it's one of those restaurants you have to have your head on a swivel because everywhere you go celebrity celebrity celebrity yeah well that's romantic yes i love people watching and that's how you choose to celebrate gets me real hot okay yeah well happy anniversary to you and lish to the lishes so much the lish family how like do you never mind i was just gonna start a conversation that was gonna be uninteresting run it back can you can you just tell me what it was gonna be i won't answer i won't answer i won't have the conversation but like just curious No.
11:40Okay. It's like, trust me, I'm not holding anything back. It's uninteresting. I'm saving you. I'm saving you. Just take the save and move on. Okay. We can take the save. We can also get into the stories because we have some interesting stories. We have Dear Toasters. We do. We've got a show for you. I love your show, Toast. Let's try all this week to do titles. Like, I love your blank blank. Let's do it. I've been saying it so much. it's so funny I was on the phone with Shannon yesterday yeah I spoke to Shannon we're friends I love your baby Shannon right and I said I was like doing you know monologuing and I said I love your blank blank but I know she's behind on the toes so like it just um that was hard for me and for anyone who wants to know she's doing so well I spoke I yeah I spoke to her yesterday too yeah and I uh I sent her flowers did you maybe no you didn't I sent her flowers and she actually She texted me like, oh my God, that card was really beautiful.
12:40I got choked up. Wow. Yeah, because Shannon and I, we've been doing this together. You know, she's leaned on me. I've leaned on her. And it's just been like a really beautiful experience to go through with your best friend, Shannon. So I just wanted to send her some flowers to commemorate this amazing journey we've been on together. I feel like we're all. I guess technically you've been on it. I've been on it together too. I think I was like pregnant with her longer than you, but we're all in the journey. Taylor's pregnant too. Did you see her gender reveal? Donahue? And Monica. go oh yeah taylor donnie was also pregnant right and yes i did see her gender reveal but you know what i wanted to get your take on this because the taylors are being so annoying about their baby name like they haven't they will not tell anyone like even taylor's mom like they won't tell anyone and i gave a guess today gender name why would they tell you i don't know i feel like if you're not like crazy jewish like you tell i don't think so well they're just being like really secretive about it so much so that like maybe i wouldn't have cared but now i'm like dying to know and I had a really good guess that I texted them this morning.
13:38They said it's not the name, but now I feel like it was such a good guess. They might, it's such a good name. They might change it. It's kind of how I felt when I told Nicole Combs that she should really name her next son Boone because he's from Boone, North Carolina. And she was like, oh, I love that name. But somebody they know has a name, so she really can't. I think, and I just wanted to say it because in case I was right, but I don't think that I am now. They're having a girl and I think that they're going with the last name Strecker. So you have to think of all names with the last name Strecker.
14:05And I think that they're going to name their daughter, daughter, Birdie. Hear me out. Taylor Donahue is obsessed with the Eagles. Now, obviously, she's not going to name her daughter Eagle. But, like, as a nod, and it's a pretty name. It's also, like, a cool name. Like, a lot of people do it. Birdie. It is a pretty name. Take the Eagles out of it. Right, right. But, you know, like, that means a lot to Donahue. I understand. I think it's so crazy that you would expect them to tell you their name. Especially, like, we keep bars under lock and key and for seven days. Yeah, but we tell each other everything.
14:36Who? Me and the Taylors. You didn't tell them names you were thinking. I'm bound by the covenant between me and the Lord. Like, that's so different. I know, but like they're just giving you a taste of your own medicine. So I brought it up because I wanted to know if you - Do unto others as you would do unto them. Shut up. I wanted to ask you if you had a good name guess because you're good at that. I'm not good at that. Yeah, you are. You're good with names. You have beautiful names. I do. I mean, they come so hard to me. but what when did I ever guess well oh sorry not guess but like give them a suggestion well I think they'll go with something with a t you do I do what if they went with Donna what if they went with Taylor I like it yeah I think it'll be something with a t I think you've got it at that point okay fine something with a t and I feel like it's just gonna hark back to like philadelphia and the eagles what's like a town tate so cute that is cute really cute tate streck tate streck i said that they should do brady hobbs and name the kids strecker but that's if it was a boy agreed agreed aligned um stories are what good i something something's to really chew on today oh you're feeling chewy i am feeling i could just see you though being like who cares i seriously there are so many stories i genuinely don't care about i'll let you know when i care but it's hard because like sometimes i really don't care but like this is my job so right i have to care right you know but sometimes i just have to let you guys know when i really don't give a fuck yes i agree but sometimes you have to muster up a fuck oh do we have a story about iris and tj yeah we do okay okay so i won't talk about it right now but that's like what let's that's just on my FYP.
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20:24The company has also donated over a million dollars to women's health causes recently went viral for announcing the cakes child care credit which is fully funded child care for everybody who works at their company i actually saw that on tiktok which was really parche they're not walking the walk they're talking the talk and we have a fabulous offer for you guys to find out what all the hype is about go to cakesbody.com you can even use code toast t-o-a-s-t for 20 off your first order um that's cakesbody.com and i really like supporting companies that support their female employees because everybody's like women women mothers mothers and you get three days of paid leave like please walk the walk correct not just talk that talk i loved your proactive participation in the ad today we'd love to have you jack why thank you so much i know i get a little long-winded for you but i try to keep it tight keep it right yeah you know i'm all about the clock so whenever you're feeling like you want to join just be mindful of the clock and you're always welcome here at at a clock our first story some music news coachella 2026 announces their lineup with headliners sabrina carpenter justin bieber and carol g the festival will take place in indio california during the weekends of april 10th and april 17th so we have breener justin carol g thoughts parjolish i feel like with every festival but mainly coachella which is like the biggest one you're guaranteed to get like one headliner who like you love and everybody loves for me i'm two out of three i think for most coachella goers it's three for three i don't really know carol g i don't listen to like a ton of latin music which is crazy because i am latin i should probably get into that more yeah um this is huge i'm i don't really understand like the order of things because i feel like for as long as i've known about these festivals like the third night is the biggest night yeah even though it never really made sense to me because the third night is a Sunday so if there was going to be like one night where people are going to go home for work the next day I don't know why Sunday's the biggest but of these three I feel like right now Sabrina's going to pull the most people and she's on Friday night so I don't get it yeah but I mean if I were going and as a Briner fan who's most excited about Briner like Friday night would be like so exciting I really don't think there's a bad night even though historically like Sunday's the biggest night I do think people try and like skip traffic yeah so as far as like numbers wise it's going to be like Friday and Saturday night being the biggest I think up greener's an amazing choice I'm so excited to see like what she brings to Coachella because she's gonna bring everything in her toolkit yeah I'm I'm thrilled for this is huge I'm happy for Justin too because I think this will be great for him he has such a big catalog he has so many fans and like this is a great paycheck and it will get him like rehearsing and practicing and like you know busy yeah and I think it's like if history has taught us anything it's that like touring is really not good for Justin Bieber's overall physical and mental health.
23:09So I don't think if you're a big Justin fan, there's like the odds of you getting a show or a tour in your town anytime soon. But him putting together this one show, I think for so many of his fans is so exciting because he really doesn't perform live, but I think this is good for him. He lives in California. He doesn't have to travel. He doesn't have to be away from his house, from his family, from his kids. Haley and the girls always go to Coachella. So like, it's going to be, it's going to be pargy content. Yeah, it really is. I think that's a no brainer. They should do like a roadhouse. They should.
23:36They probably will. I'm sure they will. Yeah. And then Carol G. There was something else I wanted to say. I'm with you. I don't like listen to her music that often, but I've seen her perform at like award shows and stuff, and she's super talented, and I think she's going to put on a great show. I think this is three for three. Yeah, not to be like that person. Has Olivia Rodrigo ever headlined Coachella? Definitely not. She's definitely performed. Yeah. So this definitely like, you know, scoots Sabrina up in the race not to pit women against each other but they've been pitted oh she made a surprise guest appearance um that is she joined no doubt last year no it's not the same I just and I want to say this question came up in the search results on Google like pretty quickly I'm not the only one searching that this morning and yes I know you guys are gonna say I'm toxic pitting women against I'm just curious because whether or not anyone wants to admit it like there is a race going on between these two and it's been really leveled recently so much i think sabrina's taken the cake a little bit and this is huge sorry it's huge i agree other performers for the festival for festival goers i didn't even look at the other lines will be the strokes i like the strokes nine inch and that wasn't a joke actually okay i love your strokes Stroke.
24:53I like your song Strokes. You know they sing that song that they used in Sing. It could have been me. You know that Halsey covers. I guess you didn't watch Sing 2. I must have missed it. Nine Inch Noise. David Byrne. Iggy Pop. Young Thug. Addison Rae. Sexy Red. When you're driving your car I'm your baby. In the backseat. Sexy Red. We know it. she did with that what did she do she's on that song with bruno mars oh look it up yeah yeah teddy swims oh teddy swims uh moby cascade major laser fk twigs pink pantherist big bang somber the double x cat's eye and more oh so cat's eye is from that netflix show i was like why is everybody screaming for Cat's Eye at what was the most recent award show?
25:50MTV. Yeah and they're like super viral from this sort of like making the band type of show that Netflix put together. Oh I didn't know that. I've slowly been piecing together who Cat's Eye is. I was first introduced to them through the Gap Jeans commercial but I thought Cat's Eye was one person. I was like oh Cat's Eye did Gap Jeans. I have to find out what's going on with Cat's Eye. And then also I think there's someone in Cat's Eye called Manon and it took me a while for me to realize that's not like people talking about Shannon. Right. It's just a lot. That is a lot. But yes, I the origins are Netflix.
26:23Well, thank you for that piece of the puzzle. You're welcome. Taking a look at the rest of the poster. Oh, what I want. Sorry. No, sorry. Like literally not worth an. Oh, it's just a name I recognized. Who? Duke Dumont. What? He has that Parchi song. Sing it. I have to find it. I think it's like Ocean something. I know I don't think I'm the target demo for Coachella but I just want to say besides the headliners Ocean Drive yeah everyone knows it of course you don't know Ocean Drive those performers really sound stanky just want to say but it's the elk of Coachella because Coachella people forget not to be like an old person Coachella was not this like festival for popular artists no it's an indie music festival it's an indie music festival and then they realized when they put headliners on that people actually knew their ticket sales went up.
27:16So now it's kind of like this, it's like the Super Bowl. Who will do it? Who will do it? And it's not really indie anymore, but I guess like besides the headliners it is. They're trying to serve everyone. Like they want the masses so they get the headliners, but then the rest of the lineup is really like in the indie music category. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to say, I remember I texted Ben, what we watched last night was the new season of Only Murders in the Building. It's a good show. I'm sorry. It's really good. They lost name. I forget why, but I can't do it anymore. Martin Short is everything.
27:46I no longer found it enjoyable but I'm glad you're enjoying. That's fine. It's really a beautiful sort of Woody Allen-esque tribute to New York. It's like just it's really New York. That's how I feel about Love Thy Nader. Totally. It's different. It's a beautiful tribute to New York. This is Upper West Side. They're a beautiful tribute the Naders to Soho. Yeah. They really are. They make it look like the New York of your. Like events, restaurants, walking in the street. like yeah it's fun yeah are you ready for our next story yeah why not a little update from the blackstock family because reba shared how her uh late stepson black brandon blackstock's kids are supporting each other through his death so reba was at the emmys and she shared an update on the blackstock family as she uh it was his stepmother a former she ended up getting divorced from his dad but she was a stepmom for many years and they were really close and she's close with kelly so i think she did take close with the family yeah but you know that his dad also like took money from reba the same way that brendan sort of nefariously acted in the divorce financially his dad did the same to reba also reba's engaged yeah reba's engaged to that guy yeah who is he he's a famous actor i think his like big thing is csi miami but he is in young sheldon he plays the principal and then reba is in young sheldon playing connie's man's ex-wife so they work together they're so in love they're so cute his name is rex something right yeah you would recognize his face if you saw him he's the definition of a working actor like you've seen him in your favorite tv show he's been in a bunch of movies but he's not like movie stars reba low-key is a man eater Reba gets around yeah go off queen and she's doing it like and no one's really noticing like it's not like that's her reputation like oh are you calling Reba a slut and do you want people like to now start calling her a slut that's the vibe I'm getting from you you're calling attention to it at all I am calling attention to it but it's not in a slutty she's literally marrying everyone it's like more Elizabeth Taylor she's Elizabeth Taylor and I feel like she doesn't get the credit for that the seven husbands of Reba McIntyre Title.
30:07Anyway, she said, we miss him. We miss him every minute. The kids are doing well. They're all bonding together and hanging out with each other and taking it one day at a time. We know God's got this. That's so Reba. Because he had other kids. Outside of Kelly? Yes. Before or after? Probably before. Before. Yeah, they're older. So they're all going through this together. Just wishing everyone well, truly. Yeah. Me as well. And Reba's a queen. Yeah, she is. Even though you're trying to slut shame her over here. I literally, I'm trying to give her props. I'm trying to give her props. Because I just feel like she's doing all this and no one's noticing it.
30:44But I noticed. So what you're saying is that you want Reba McIntyre to join Amber Rose's next slut walk. No. I'm saying. Because it sounds like that's what you're saying. That Reba McIntyre is the Elizabeth Taylor of our generation. She doesn't get the credit. Who is the Elizabeth Taylor of our generation? Jennifer Lopez? Ariana Grande? Yeah. There are a lot, but who is a celebrity who's always getting married? Yeah, J-Lo at this point. J-Lo. Because Ariana Grande has been engaged twice, once. And married. Married once. Married once. Engaged once. Once. That's not that crazy. It's very normal.
31:20Well, Christina Hack. Christina Hack. Christina Hack El Moussa Hall is the Elizabeth Taylor of our generation. HGTV queen. Yeah. But also Jennifer Lopez. Yes, yes. Are you ready for our next story? It's some news you're going to be excited by. Really? Yeah, because Dakota and Elle Fanning are on the cover of Vanity Fair, and they're talking about their sisterhood, and they are talking about the Nightingale. They're talking actually about - Oh, they are? Yes, they talked about two exciting projects, one that I didn't know about, one being the Nightingale. So they talked a lot about how the start of their careers, they both are like, you know, Dakota, she really is like the kid from Uptown Girl.
32:04like she's like very brettened up like very precocious always been that way and Elle is just like a lot more whimsical and like free-spirited and that's how they've always been and like growing up when they were forging their own careers they really wanted to be like seen as different which they succeeded at but I imagine it was really hard because they're twins yeah they're twins but I don't even think of them similarly right but now they say like now they're at a point in their careers where they want to merge and like do stuff together but they've been waiting for the right thing and not just a role where they're each playing the same character but like young and old like they really wanted like a strong sister story and so they are fully aligned on the nightingale she said the reason why it's like taken so long is um they were supposed to go to where were they filming bulgaria belgium right before the pandemic budapest that's where they were filming pandemic hit they had to pause then when it was resurrected the filmmaker um had to step in like the filmmaker couldn't do it anymore so they have someone new so it was just like a bunch of admin also what i didn't realize about the movie is that reese witherspoon will be producing it as well oh oh you know when there's a book turned film or tv show and reese is involved with the exception of little houses everywhere fires you're in good hands yeah you are in good hands so they are taking it very seriously they're very excited and they like cherish the book as much as we do but something else that they're working on is a24 required acquired the rights to Paris Hilton's memoir on behalf of the Fanning sisters because they will be playing Paris and Nikki in.
33:37You're kidding. Yes, but we don't know who's playing who. Let me think. I think Elle will play Paris. I agree. Because she's more like whimsical. And Nikki is kind of serious. Not serious, but compared to Paris, she's just the more like leveled one. Yeah, agreed. Oh man, I love that. So that she was talking about her relationship with Paris and how like she's been like talking to her. they met on the set of cat in the hat the best fucking movie ever the best movie ever who met dakota and paris because paris did a cameo and dakota's in the movie paris did a cameo i know dakota's the little girl the little girl yeah i guess she did a cameo that's the best movie ever seriously alec baldwin's best work no it's so good i've watched it a bunch recently because the kids were into cat in the hat it's a little mature but like yeah it's not for kids no and even on the soundtrack like one of the songs it's like you know they're about to rhyme with ass but then he like yeah I like of course like turn on so it's a little mature but it's really good and really funny I just want to say the vibe the vision that I'm seeing for the Paris book with Dakota and Al is something directed by Sofia Coppola I just I think she needs to get involved yes also both girls have worked with Mr.
34:49and Ms. Coppola Francis Ford and Sofia so they have yeah they've worked with everyone Dakota and Elle Dakota and Elle have worked with Francis Ford Coppola? Yeah one of them I don't know which one How do you know that? It happened to be in this article like weirdly because they were saying all the directors Tarantino's Spielberg, Coppola's Oh that's so weird they need to like seriously it's a Sofia Coppola like she can do what she did with Bling Ring you know Yeah Banning, Francis I'm just like so curious how they worked with Francis Ford Coppola Twixt was an American horror film written, directed, and produced by Francis Ford Coppola starring Elle.
35:30There you go. That's really crazy. So the Fanny sisters are doing big things while also like remaining the most normal people in Hollywood. They give such normal vibes. For being child stars? I always have to remind myself that they're not related to Mary-Kate and Ashley. They give me such Mary-Kate and Ashley vibes because they look like Elizabeth James. Yeah, Elizabeth Olsen. Elizabeth Olsen, James' brother. To me, they're so intertwined, but they're literally not at all. No, and even in this article, they know that they're wearing the robe for their interview. Oh, they are? Yeah. I really like them.
36:10I think they're good girls. I think so, too. This makes me more excited for The Nightingale. And we know them as actors, and I feel like we don't really get glimpses into their personalities, but when they do, they just seem like fun-loving sisters. They seem really serious, but I don't think that they are. Yeah, I agree. I think they're like very sisterly. Yeah, I cannot wait for The Nightingale. Everything I hear, I get like more and more confident. I'm very protective over this book. Yeah. So I'm like, I'm kind of designed to hate it already because I'm so protective and I'm so close to it.
36:38But everything I hear from casting to production, like I feel good about. But just stick to the book, you know? There's enough in the book that you don't have to like make up a new storyline. Stick to the book. I feel like sometimes they feel like in the books, Like there's just not enough like plot lines characters. So they add to like make a movie. But like there's enough. It's a chunky book. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story, which is some more new project news? Yeah. And the one that I fear that you might not muster up a fuck about. But I actually have a fuck to give today. Let's give it like Claudia's fuck-o-meter.
37:12Okay. Demi Lovato is announcing her ninth studio album called It's Not That Deep. She shares a release date. She just put out two singles called Here All Night and Fast. What does Claudia, how many fucks do you give? So if this is the fuck-o meter, ready? So you're a little above zero. I would say I'm like 30%, you know? 30%, okay. I care deeply about the reincarnation, the renaissance, the renewal of Demi Lovato. Will I be searching, waiting till midnight streaming? Probably not. But if it's good, like, and it makes its way to me via TikTok or the radio, I'll be really happy for her. But I'm not going to be a part of the movement, you know?
37:54I just want to say, one of her singles, Here All Night, made its way to me. Like, I saw it on Instagram, and then it was on my release radar. So I listened again. And I already have it, like, I can sing it to you. Love that. I don't know the words, but I know the tune.
38:09Oh, get it, girl. Yeah, yeah. Let me get over you. It's, it's like good. and I'm here for this era. Don't forget, like she has an amazing voice. And what's so funny is even on this song, it's been 10 years, you know, multiple lives. She's been different people. She's died. She's come back. Yeah, literally. Literally. She sounds the exact same. It's Sunny with a Chance singing. I saw the artwork and I actually thought the artwork was quite well done. Powerful. I saw a behind the scenes of it too because it looks like it's this crazy image where all these things are going around. it looks clearly ai generated who would you know and i saw behind the scenes it's totally like real um and i thought it was kind of profound you know so i am here for this era i will listen i will learn and i'm i am i am rooting for demi i have always rooted for demi yeah she said about the album this music is a perfect reflection of where i'm at today i had such an incredible time making this album and it was such a freeing experience to let loose and have fun with it With my past eras, I often wrote cathartic music about heavy topics that I needed to process.
39:17When I got back in the studio this time around, those songs just weren't resonating anymore because I'm not in that place in life. I'm happy. I'm in love. And I just want to enjoy life and have fun. I realized it's not that deep anymore. And that became the ethos for this album. It's Not That Deep is meant for late nights and dance floors. And I can't wait for you all to dance with me. Is that the name of the album? It's Not That Deep? Yeah. Oh, I love that because I do feel like, and yes, it was totally reflective of what was going on in her life. And that's great. And I think we got some amazing songs from it.
39:42But like, yes, let's be happy. Happiness is everything. Joy, light. Love that. It reminds me of like a better take on Katy Perry's new album, 143, where she was like, it's just about the rhythm and the heartbeat. Like, and you know. Okay, that's a bad. You're making me hate it because I hate that. I'm like, that was dark. I'm saying a better take on it because she was doing like all, she was doing the most and then she's like, I'm stripping it down. We're making hits again. But they were like hips devoid of substance. Hits devoid of substance. And it had the Dr. Luke scandal. And I just I don't think it was like a done well.
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40:14But it is the same sort of concept that Demi. Yeah. But I think she's the right person to do it in the right time. I'm excited for her and I'm really happy for her. And I want it to go well because like I've loved this like cooking TikTok era that she's in. But she is a generational talent. Yeah. She's one of the most amazing singing voices. Like seriously of anyone out there right now. She's on the same level as like Ariana. And I want that for her. Yeah. She could have been Elphaba. Oh my God. she so could have been Alphaba. If Disney back in the day did the kids version, it would have been her and Ari.
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47:07and now because he cheated on her yeah seemingly weeks later respectfully iris and tj are back together so i'm feeling a lot of ways right because i loved pepe and iris together and i also when tj got sent home i was really sad for iris because i was shipping them too and and so i i was holding space for both now my only issue is that a lot of tj's post island behavior specifically his social media behavior like has not been my favorite it's made him a lot less attractive to me it's just like giving thirsty especially because he was making content with like what nick vile very you know beautifully called the leftovers like when the island was still going on and then like the casa amore people he got a lot of shit for saying that and i was like no it's perfect um while the island was still happening but the people who got sent home and then like the casa amore rejects they were all like in a house together making content with like vanna and that guy who what was his name who told ahuda that she was dominant oh you like to be dominant like with a crazy smile like he was on the one yeah he was on episode for three seconds that guy zach tj got like looped into that because he was just like home and like austin yeah agreed yeah you're not making it better jackie um austin was a part of that too and jeremiah i know jeremiah got looped in with the rejects even though he was like a core even on the reunion because he got rejected from the island like all the islanders who didn't make it to the end like started to hang out as the season was going on like yes it got loser-y but like not everyone there was a loser no with the exception of jeremiah like yeah and so tj like got wrapped up in that like yeah he's on the fence but jeremiah like didn't make that much content i didn't even think i forgot about jeremiah because he didn't make that much content with them which was smart on his part tj like went full force like they all like were hanging in a house together like it was just bad so everyone who everyone who came back from the island like at the very end or even like ace and shelly the last like two three episodes they're the cool kids to me and so iris is that and tj is that i understand as someone who shipped both iris and tj and then iris and pepe mostly just because i like iris this is the natural order of things like she had to continue her relationship with Pepe they like were there for each other attracted to each other got them through the end of days and then see the relationship through at home I didn't think that it was going to go on forever and naturally whenever that ends she should pick back up with TJ who she was in the middle of something with so I love this I again don't think that this is forever either but like no she has to see these things through and I'm having such a like a confused like post I really don't care that much anymore even though at one point this show was the most important thing in my life it's just funny how that works and you know they all go on to like be influencers and do brand deals and some of them have really broken through like olandria's like the doll of fashion week she's getting paparazzi everywhere she goes she's really broken the barrier from like influencer reality star to celebrity and nick is like just there because he's her boyfriend um and i just want to say like my feelings have not changed about them whatsoever i'm so happy for olandria like this is what she deserves she's literally the most sickening beautiful kind woman like I love that she's getting this treatment she needs to drop Nick ASAP he's such a hanger on her such a user he's a user and the fact like her and her fans like are shipping them like that's not what's in Olandre's best interest it's really not no his name is Ick literally I find it so interesting that like Shelly and Ace have really been sort of like written out of I don't see them anywhere and I'm not actively seeking out Olandre stuff it's making its way because she is a part of popular culture now she is a celebrity why isn't Shelly in the same treatment like where is Shelly in all this I don't know it's just interesting like who got there and who didn't yeah and like Iris is even doing her own thing even though she wasn't like the most popular but she's like Victoria's Secret and she's getting like great brands and her stepping out with TJ at Fashion Week was like photographed by everyone um yeah Shelly and they seem to be like more low-key i think they kind of like no i don't think it's a choice i'm letting you know i don't know they seemed at the reunion like over it yes and i'm really like everyone else like plays into it and they do all the podcasts and the press and like yeah these two just i think they really like each other i think their relationship is real and all the nonsense like i think they're just a little um mature over and over it yeah that's crazy because ace is like the youngest one on the show.
51:38I know, but he was always, even if you didn't agree with like the things he was doing, like he's always like very principled in like his feelings and like his thoughts. I was just surprised by that. Yeah, I haven't been taking as much stock, but I agree that like I see them come across my desk sometimes just like doing stuff, campaigns, whatever. Haven't seen Ace and Shelley as much except like going to Disney. Okay, and that was the second the show was over. Anyone could go to Disney. I saw them also going to Disney. that was like the day the show ended what has happened since then and i just think they keep going to disney which like you could i could do that they went more than once i just saw a lot of disney i think it was this one trip where they made a lot of content well it's paying off um should we dive into dear toasters our weekly advice segment where we try to help out the girls in need we try and i just want to say we have gotten so many submissions i urge everyone to write into us again it's dear toasters at gmail.com or just go to our website the toast podcast.com scroll down you can uh submit anonymously please keep your submissions brief as brief as you can like need to know information we can't be reading and then we get good ones but like i can't read them they're too long you know we could put them through chat to summarize we could but like then you're making extra work for us and just like rewrite your submission okay it's true all right first up dear toasters i need advice on my feral mother-in-law i'm currently pregnant she calls just about every day and will say how much weight have you gained no matter what i answer she'll say oh wow i only gained 13 pounds she's adamant about being in the delivery room with me and i'm thinking absolutely not i have my baby shower coming up and she's been uphill with it being with it being near her birthday and how inconvenient it is for her she just made her co-workers have a baby shower for her she facetimed me to show me all the stuff she got for her baby am i being overly sensitive from the pregnancy hormones or is it just absurd that she had a shower for herself.
53:31That is absurd. And I also don't understand like the intention because I imagine like some mother-in-laws when like they're having, especially like their first grandchild, like they're so excited. They call every day because they just want to know like what's going on in there and they just want to be a part of it. But then for her to like not want you to have your baby shower on her birthday is like, I thought she was so excited about everything. Not that she's being like resistant. So it's in Congress. What are her intentions here? It seems like she just wants to be a problem. I do want to say her only gaining 13 pounds is a sleigh.
53:59And if that were me, like I'd be talking about it when I'm a grandmother, you know, till that day. That I actually don't care so much. Everything else, throwing a baby shower with your coworkers. I'm surprised your coworkers would enable such crazy ass behavior. Shame on them, too. No, you're 100 percent right. It's important to ask these questions because when you are so hormonal, like you feel things so strongly. And the idea that you could be overreacting, like it's not even a question like, no, I'm not. So I appreciate you reaching out. No, no, this bitch is certifiable. She's crazy. and at this point in your life like you are entitled to be selfish and I don't even think you're being selfish if you don't want her in the delivery room that's absolutely you're right do not get pressured into having her there because you don't want to seem x y or z like do not yeah and you could say because I feel like after COVID like you could only have one person in the delivery room during COVID and then I think they got up to two at least in the hospitals that like I gave birth in but you could say like we can only have one person in the delivery like we we can't have guests right yeah like your teeth yeah watch like find a website where it says you can no no you are the priority here other people's feelings if she wants to have her crazy ass co-workers throw her crazy ass shower whatever you're not there you also like you become increasingly more busy when you get pregnant and then have kids like you don't need to answer all of her calls yeah yeah people like having direct access to you is a privilege and if people don't don't respect that privilege then they lose that access and that's fine you send her a text sorry uh we're doing bath time talk to you later we're doing bath time by ourselves no you're not practicing people get access to you and then they think like they take that they have that forever they take advantage so you don't yeah or you can say i'm sorry i'm going down for a nap yeah not a great time you don't have to answer everybody's calls i feel like once you make that realization it's kind of liberating yeah and you don't also have to just because somebody called you doesn't mean you have to call them back yeah just send them a text what's up catch up later i hate people who like refuse to communicate via like email or text like they just want to talk on the phone that's a privilege not very few have have the right and every day to talk on the phone is like nobody nutty yeah except unless you're like jackson my sister right all right next up hey guys am I a bitch such an important question I just turned 29 my husband asked me what I wanted for my birthday I said I don't know surprised me on the morning of my birthday two Amazon packages arrived he told me not to open them until the evening when he was home from work he was so excited for me to open these packages package one was a meat thermometer package two was an umbrella admittedly I was underwhelmed by the gifts I gritted my teeth smiled and thanked him for the presence.
56:42Am I being an ungrateful wench? I am looking for advice on how I should handle the situation and hopefully prevent it from happening again. You have to, you have to, the situation has to be handled because we got here, not by accident, right? Things don't just happen. You've clearly in the past, and I'm not blaming you whatsoever. Men do need to be trained when it comes to gift giving. Very few men just show up knowing exactly what to do. I feel as So in the past, you've either put like not a lot of pressure or not a lot of emphasis and you've accepted less than gifts. And that's how we ended up with an umbrella.
57:15Yeah. I will say you probably thought he crushed because you probably really did need a meat thermometer. Like you probably noticed that you like never had the meat thermometer or maybe like your chicken's undercooked and that like you needed an umbrella. So I feel like he's like really proud that he's been paying attention to your needs. Right. But birthday gifts are not about needs. It's wants. And like for you to say surprise me when obviously he has no training in this field. Yeah. You should have given a little more direction. Now I'm not going to victim blame here. No, again, we're not blaming you.
57:46But you saying surprise me to a man who's definitely not good at giving gifts. I don't know what you expected to happen. I'm sure you weren't thinking we'd fall as far as an umbrella and a meat thermometer. But we're here now. The circumstances are dire. Like we need to turn it around. Yeah. You need to be more specific next time. either say like jewelry or handbag or send the link yeah so um ben is an amazing gift giver he's always been pretty good but i've definitely gotten him to the place where i no longer need to request things but over the course of the year i'll say like i do wish i had like a matching pair of earrings for this necklace you know like you say things you drop hints you men are really not smart and it's nice like we want to live in a world where he notices that i need it's not gonna happen okay we have to put in the work and it doesn't really make it any less romantic if like you had to say i want these no it doesn't here is the link direct to shop no because okay it's not romantic so you say nothing and then you get a meat thermometer that's really not romantic right i do think the meat thermometer is a message and the umbrella is the gift or he always sees her like taking the chicken out opening a piece to see what it is like and she's just noticing like things about her that like actually you know what he does sound thoughtful like there is a lot of potential yeah like maybe you're the type of girl who has to like cut her chicken in half before serving it because she's worried that it's undercooked and then it's like he sees you coming home so many times with um without soaking wet because like maybe he is noticing so like the the roots are there like we can make this work but like he could also notice that you needed a thermometer and get that for you not for your birthday like that's not a birthday present it's just a kitchen tool right these are gifts that would be like so thoughtful if just on a tuesday you came home and there was a new umbrella and he's like well i see like you always running in from the rain like that's so cute the notebook in the context of a birthday it's shameful on a Tuesday it's so thoughtful maybe just play this episode for him as a way to tell him like you actually sound amazing and really cute and thoughtful um and I just wanted a little more I'm a firm believer that no matter your budget like you can make somebody feel special on their birthday it's not a money thing it's I'm sorry like there's no world in which an umbrella or a meat thermometer on a special occasion is going to make someone feel special even if it's a diamond encrusted meat thermometer like it's just it's not the vibe no it's not and i don't think you're wrong for feeling the way that you do but i don't think you've got a bad man no i think you've got a good one actually just a little misguided right even good men need to be trained and guided and again i'm not blaming you but you are part of the reason why we got here because he didn't he didn't know that if because ben knows if he ever on a special occasion and i always say and i mean this Like I don't need a gift.
1:00:22If there was like, I mean, I'm going to get him a present for our anniversary tomorrow and I'm not expecting a gift. Like you don't need a gift for everything. Like, okay. But if you're going to get it, it has to be good. Yeah. Yeah. Cause then I got excited. I opened the box and I think there's like a Cardi Bracelet in there, you know? And there's like a time for everything too. I used to like really want like bigger gifts. They were very important to me. And now I, they're actually not at all. Same. We really gift giving has like waned right now, except hopefully when we have a big moment, like I will get a gift, but like, I don't know.
1:00:51You put so much emphasis on them. So it's not like it's going to be this way forever, but it was important to you in this moment and you didn't get what you wanted. And that sucks. And that's happened to me before. And that's like a bummer. And you hate to complain because you don't want to be like Veruca Salt, like a brat, but it matters. It does. And it's a lot of people's gift giving. What is it? Love language. Yeah, it was one of mine, but I think I've grown out of it. And then I think for me, I'm like very much in like my physical area responsible era so like when i don't need anything and you're dropping money on something like it makes that makes me annoyed yeah it's like sweet but return it yeah all right our third and final is uh kind of similar dear jackson claude i've been dating my boyfriend and constantly been bringing up engagement and getting married the other day he mentioned to me that he was waiting to be able to afford the engagement ring and that was why he was taking so long i've been thinking recently about just giving him the money for my ring so that we can be engaged already but more importantly so that I can have the ring that I want for reference I make nearly double what he does am I crazy or would this be acceptable how do you think I should go about the conversation with him is there a world in which I could anonymously give him the cash specifically to be used for the ring anything helps thanks so I love like I see it I like it I buy it I get it I do worry that he's like using the money thing as an excuse to stall because like some men it's like a little convenient it's like well I'm not ready to get married and I make less money so I'm already so I worry that if you give him a very practical solution oh you don't have the money here I have it I worry that we'll uncover something else so just know that that could be a possibility yeah now let's say it's not let's say he just really he really wants you but he doesn't have the money and you say listen I want this ring I can afford it like here what do you think about that I think a couple times in life you have to be more hands-off and I think that this is one of them I think the next time it came up if he if it came up about the money again like you could throw out there like I'd be happy to like chip in to get like the ring that I want but like doing it all yourself like just marry yourself Sue Sylvester like like let him participate in this and like do things in the way that he wants and also maybe he was proposing to you in two days and he just came up with an excuse like you have to kind of let them do this it's a very big thing and it's like if he can't get down get a ring get down on and he proposed to you like he's not going to be much of a partner so like no and by the way you are setting yourself up to get a meat thermometer as a gift like you're doing everything for him you're setting yourself up for a one woman wedding like you need to let him be a human being and it's so Sylvester and I think even if the ring that he gets free with his money isn't exactly what you want like you can always upgrade down the line but like it's very emasculating I think but it's not even just like about like his ego or anything it's like this is something that he's meant to do just like let him do it because honestly and then correct it but don't like come it like don't micromanage it before it's even happened plus you also run the risk of like maybe he's not ready like you have to just let this process happen naturally yeah you also um um could I just want to say because you sound like maybe the type you could propose to him and I know you're focused on like your own ring but I think you're more focused on like wanting to get married and so I you know guys know how I feel about it but like some situations call for it like what are you are you the type of girl because you sound like very sort of um organized I feel like if there was more what you need is actually more transparency where like you go ring shopping together you see what he can afford you see how much the ring that you want costs and you say to him this is my dream ring I'd be happy to contribute like I feel like I can imagine couples where like the girl pays for being like celebrity couple you know like yeah of course um Devin Lovato and Max Ehrlich I think there's like radical transparency with the finances of like I expect this ring I see you can only do this one let me just help you out not like him saying I can't we can't get engaged right now because I can't afford a ring because that's never what like someone would say they would say I can't get you the ring that you want so I'm gonna get you this ring and that's when you can step in and say I can we can upgrade and also I would love to know what's more important to you getting engaged or getting the ring that you want because like if it's if it's an option today to get engaged with the ring he can afford think about rings is like you really can and everybody does like Joanna Gaines just upgraded her ring like it's really it's something you trade in you can keep as you evolve as you grow as your businesses grow so what's more important to you like seriously are you like ring obsessed which is okay it's not a shallow thing people there's it's an important thing or are you okay with like a less lesser smaller ring for now and it's something you guys work towards together i just think it's a little bit of a red flag that he said i can't afford a ring like he could get you a ring oh did he say that or he can't afford the ring that you wanted he said he can't afford a ring period No, he said he was waiting to be able to afford my engagement ring.
1:05:58Oh. Well, then, yeah, you could step in and my, what did she mean my? Like my dream? Yeah, look, I think that he knows what she wants. The other day he mentioned to me that he was waiting to be able to afford my engagement ring, and that was why he was taking so long. I've been thinking recently about giving him the money for my ring so that we can just be engaged already, but more importantly, so that I can have the ring that I want. I think you could float the idea. but he might have been saying that as a way to get more time by time yeah yeah just jackie's advice is sound like you do run the risk of being like crazy sue sylvester yeah and you have to like let the person be a person and like experience and go through and it's hard you know it takes a lot to like muster up the courage like go into a ring shop and like yeah And they should have that where they're like really like committing to every decision because it's a it's a big decision, you know, and just say taking it all out.
1:06:56I just like you just get half a man walking down the aisle. Yeah. And this is obviously something like only someone like me could say because I'm now married and like being engaged. Going on eight years. Yeah. It's like something far in the past for me. But like a ring is just a ring. Like it really what matters is like getting married more so than the jewelry, like getting the man. It's just as big of a prize. Like it's hard to get a guy, you know? Yeah. So that's just my two cents. But yes, it's easy for me to say now that I'm in a different phase of life. But there was a time when like the most important thing mattered.
1:07:28Like the cut, the halo. Like, you know. It's so exciting. It is, it is. I'm obviously just not there yet. It's like the biggest piece of jewelry that you will have owned until that point in your life. It says so much about like your personal style and who you are. It does, it does. But I think part of the wisdom that comes with age is like, you know, it's not everything. But it also doesn't mean that it has to be the most expensive. like you can have a beautiful ring that's like unique and and unique to you that it's not just about money it's also just about like style and style you wear it agreed and the meaning behind it and don't you want the meaning to be like he works didn't bought me this ring or not or it's like i want a big hunk and rock which i also totally love and respect zero um and i say that as a girl whose jewelry doesn't fit her.
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