Influencer Drama For All: Thursday, March 13th, 2025

34:34Oh, that's because it means a period of paid leave granted to a university teacher or other worker for study or travel. Traditionally, one year for every seven years worked. Claudia, we've been doing this show for seven years. We have earned a sabbatical. I just want to say, like, getting a whole year off because you worked for seven years, like the entitlement of college professors, like that's insane. Yeah, it's a nice job. Do you know who else works for seven years in a row? everyone who needs to live yeah but i guess like and they don't have summers off and winter break like like a college break break right and and office hours but i guess it's like they can justify it as being like if you're a professor like you've learned and studied and how can you grow and have more to give you need to learn more in order to teach more take a year off to go and learn more to come back with more to teach well that's how i feel about our sabbatical well so So I sit here and speak on my own experiences, right?

35:33And I need to live those experiences, those experiences in order to share them. So a year off is good for my work. Yeah. Well, it's not, you won't have a job to come back to. Literally. Like I, like I know you guys are going to be really like impatient with me on my maternity leave. And like that's three months. So I think that's kind of the max. Yeah. Well, the show is off two months. So that's true. But I'm talking about me specifically. I think I have definitely a contingent of fans here. Who are going to miss you. Who are going to miss me, yeah, specifically. They might not even tune in without you.

36:07Don't do that, you guys. Don't do that. Not cool. Are you ready for our next story? Some exciting news. Three. Yeah, I'm ready. Wendy Williams looks ecstatic as she hits a New York City hotspot after passing her psych evaluation with flying colors. Wendy Williams was spotted leaving a New York City hotspot after she was hospitalized and subjected to a psychiatric evaluation. The TV personality appeared in good spirits as she smiled wide for the outing at Max Tucci's Tucci restaurant in NoHo on Wednesday night. Have you been there? No. Is that where the New York City influencers are? That's why I'm not a New York City influencer.

36:47She kept it casual, wearing a green and orange bomber, black top and tights, photos of hers. She looks so, so happy. So basically there's been a lot going on with her in the last week. She was like photograph looking frazzled. She was taken in for a psych evaluation to like finally get to the bottom of like, is Wendy okay? What's going on? And she has been maintaining that she's totally fine, but she's been put in this conservatorship and we don't know if it's a situation where it's like a crazy person saying they're fine or like somebody really taking advantage of somebody who's having like a mental breakdown.

37:16So she got evaluated psychiatrically. She passed. She's fine. She's free. The conservatorship is over. Wendy is back. Now, I hope that this works out in the best possible way, because I feel like our frame of reference for, and I'm going to say the thing that I feel like you're not supposed to say, for conservatorships is Britney Spears. And while the conservatorship that she was in and the people that were a part of it were corrupt, I don't know that she was a poor candidate for a conservatorship. Like when she was released, it was clear that this was is someone who maybe needs structure like that.

37:54The one that she found herself in with, you know, Lee, her dad, and then that woman, Lee, whatever. Not good. But there was maybe something to be said about her having that level of protection. I hope that with Wendy, it's the opposite case where it's like she never needed one in the beginning to begin with. Yeah. Do you have doubts that? No, I don't. I actually I have believed Wendy this whole time. I hadn't known what to believe because both cases are just like so hard to swallow if true. Like the one where she's obviously she's unwell or the other one where she's fine and she's being taken advantage of.

38:30But I'm happy to know that she is fine. I hope she enjoys her life selfishly. Like, you know, maybe a little back to work. Give us some good bits again. I think Wendy Williams. I think she will have to work now. I think they took all her money. Well, she also, she is sick. Like, this isn't a perfectly healthy, well person. But just because, like, you have illnesses, both physical or mental, doesn't mean you don't have access to your own money. Like, that's not, it's not just like, boom, push a red button, conservatorship. So she is quite ill. You know, she has Graves' disease. She has a lot of health issues.

39:05Yeah. So I don't know if we'll see her, like, hustling back, you know, hot topics. But I do think they took her money. So I think if she'll want to live at a certain level, she should do a podcast. It's like such a, she would be a natural and it's a low lift if you're good at it. Yeah. Yeah. We need to get Wendy some low lift work. Yeah. Also, so they're going to use the results from the psych of Al to end her guardianship. And they are waiting to retest her for frontotemporal dementia after she denied that she suffered from the condition, though she was diagnosed with it in 2023. three well somebody who was diagnosed would deny that they have it but would someone who was diagnosed packed a psychoval 10 out of 10 flying colors they say uh yeah if they're just having like a good day that's the thing with dementia like it hits and it doesn't you know wow especially in the beginning ruining the story for me no i'm saying it's still like possible yeah okay Sorry.

40:01This is a bit of good news. Yes, it's a big W for WW. Yes. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. I don't think you're ready for this show. You don't? I don't think so. Oh, but it's the fourth story? Yeah, the fourth touch fifth. Oh, okay, thank you. That's brought to you by Avara? Oh my God, yes, Avara, my favorite clothing brand. If you're looking for on-trend, high-quality pieces that are perfect for spring, Avara is the place to go. They offer carefully curated designs and affordable pieces, making it easy to refresh your wardrobe without breaking the bank. They have sizing up to XXXL. There's something for everyone, no matter your body type.

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42:21Now that we're just like coming off of award season, I can take a look at all the awards at a glance. Like the Golden Globes were truly a highlight. And I think they're a good show because they're very casual, right? Like it's like a seated dinner. It's not so formal. It's TV. It's movies. It's like every, it's music. It's people from all different walks. And then Nikki Glaser like really made it so fun. And I feel like when we recapped the Grammys, the Oscars, like all the big award shows this year, the Golden Globes were definitely what I enjoyed the most. And I think a lot of it had to do with her.

42:46Yes. So it's a no brainer. What they have in their column is that they go first. And so you're excited and you're not fatigued. And this is our first time seeing all these people, not our fifth time. And it's all just very exciting and new. And the dinner setting and then having a great funny host. It's all on top. It is one of the better ones when you look at them all on an even playing field. But the fact that it goes first really helps. That's a good point. I don't know if I realized that they go first. They kind of open the awards season. And it's so funny because I feel like the Golden Globes really struggled.

43:17they were canceled a couple of years ago and i mean canceled like as a program not as like they were moved from taking off tv i think they were like losing their funding nobody was watching it and there was like this last ditch effort by people in hollywood to bring it back and i remember when they brought it back i'm like enough like people don't want it leave us alone but you know what i'm a woman enough to say i might have been wrong because i had a good time and i think nikki glazer is a huge part of that it was no surprise that they were going to book her again like she crushed it i'm sure her salary is huge because we were talking about her payday right what did she she had said she got paid i thought it was like five hundred thousand dollars but yeah i was thinking four hundred so something around there um and she has all this leverage now i wouldn't be surprised if she got a million dollars yeah or like more she deserves every penny yeah she really does okay so she was paid just over four hundred thousand dollars but it will rise when like coming back and then who hosted the grammys trevor noah who hosted the oscars conan yeah like when you look at the landscape of people who hosted this year she's the only woman and she was the only one who did a good job so yeah i also feel like golden globes is a good format like and ripe for just comedy because even if you think of joe coy which was obviously a train wreck like it was hysterical in the sense that it was so painful to watch like the way that it's like it's not we don't have performances up there it's just like someone talking like whether it's good or bad like it's gonna be entertaining because of the structure of the show it relies on a host probably more than all the others and like really it's very intimate with the crowd it's not like yeah the person on stage can't see the audience so it is just an interesting dynamic to watch and when it's good it's great and when it's bad though it's like still like good in a cringe way i mean we're still talking about joe coy sadly for joe coy sadly for joe coy that was so crazy that was so crazy um so very exciting for nikki looking forward to that would you like a fifth and final story do you want to go into the tv recap what is what do you have well it wasn't what i wanted to talk about because i did want to watch the episode of kardashians first but kim kardashian is making news because not only did she pay for her engagement ring from chris humphries he made her give it back so yeah i actually do want to talk about this because i have like an extremely hot take kim shared on the recent episode of kardashians they were uh at her and Chloe were at a wedding in India so they were talking about wedding rings and she shared that she first of all shared like the size and scale of her previous ring saying her first one when she was married to Damon Thomas was a cushion cut 14 carat she said she still has it and then she recalled how her ring with Chris Humphreys is an emerald cut 18 carat but she revealed that she no longer owns that she said I didn't keep that I was pregnant with North still married to him and in order to divorce him he said I had to give him the ring in the divorce but Chloe interjected saying that Kim was actually the one who bought the ring.

46:08And he contributed a fifth of the price. Also, the ring was made by Lorraine Schwartz, who was in the room for this conversation. Unclear if that means Kim paid four fifths or she got a discount. 20 % came from Chris Humphries. Unclear where the other 80 % came from. So they didn't say explicitly. A mix of Kim and discount, I believe. Or did he pay a fifth of the discounted price? Also, am I crazy? 14 carats, 18 carat ring. Is that not the biggest thing in the world? Huge. Huge. Now, I want to say something about this. Are you ready? Put respect on Chris Humphrey's name? No. But, like, can we just lay off?

46:45Like, I've had enough. Like, it's funny, ha-ha, yeah, oh, he's poor. You know what? Like, we destroyed the man's life, okay? It was funny. Like, I don't, I think we're beating a dead horse here. Nobody thought he paid for it, okay? Nobody thought that. He was playing on the Minnesota somethings. He wasn't good. He had$3. Like, we didn't think he bought the Lorraine Schwartz diamond, okay? Yeah, no, but if he didn't buy the ring, that's no knock on him. She wanted a big ring and he could afford it. I think it's like he made her give it to him when he didn't pay for it. I'm sure he asked for it in the divorce.

47:22And by the way, if she gave it to him, that means, like, he had some legal standing, okay? And I don't think it was that. She was also just pregnant and wanted to get rid of him. I don't think it was. I bought this ring. I want it back I think it was like you know we are getting divorced you exchange I make less money than you maybe he gave up spousal support just for the ring like maybe the ring was like yeah there might be other dynamics at play but typically in a divorce like you do keep the ring because it is a gift yes well I don't know what the laws are in California actually in New York it is considered a gift like you do not have to give it back under any legal circumstances I don't know what the what the rules are in LA but I I when I heard this I understood it as like not the ring is mine but like the monetary value of the ring like cut me a check or just give me the it should cover you know what you've done here which I don't even know if it does but no we're still talking about Chris Humphries ever know who Chris Humphries was in like in his own professional career if not for Kim like I don't I don't think so if I was into basketball yes but outside of that no but I just think that the whole thing it was obviously done very badly um and I think that for Kim and her fans like it was one of the moments where she almost like lost a lot yes of her fans people were I remember it like I was like and who was I but I just remember like it was like a bad moment for her because it all felt like so fake it felt like he was so used that it felt like all the things people had said about the Kardashians up until that point were kind of being proven and then they had that whole um episode of the kardashians where it was clearly pre like recorded yeah later but then cut in with chris yeah and they were like editing episodes to make her look good and that was the first time she ever had like real i think it was from the fans it wasn't just like critics it was from people i remember i was in high school i literally remember where i was when i found out it was like not a good look for it was like are you serious like you're like a joke yeah it was i think that's a good distinction because even like the sex tape was a scandal but like not from her fans didn't care like the fans really did not like what happened with chris humphreys um we always say justice for chris humphreys like to give the marriage 72 days like you really don't give a shit like no and then you got such a bad edit on their show and i know you could say well but look he was like mean to her in the gansevort it's like yeah well that's her show and they're producing it and they're cutting it together i don't think that's like a fair reflection of what their marriage was really like it was nba lockout which seriously fuck the nba lockout because these two would still be married if he had been gainfully employed during the time that they were married they're living in an apartment in new york with her sister and scott like this is not a recipe for a successful new marriage and like she didn't even care to make it work because she didn't give it a chance because she didn't care yeah so it was it was like a fake marriage and it was just like this whole time people had been saying like the worst things about kim but like we saw in her what nobody else did like her real fans were like you guys are just jealous whatever but then she did this thing and we were like oh It was just a bad moment.

50:20And of course, we've all moved on. And then she reached greater heights than ever before with Kanye. Of course. Had a vision for her life in the future. And now in hindsight, with Chris Humphries, it's small potatoes. No, of course. But at the time, it was a big scandal. And I think that it didn't go the way that she thought it would. People were actually upset with her, like her fans. So now I think she thinks enough time has passed where she can like, but to be honest, I'm over it. I'm over it. I just don't think it's a joke. Like this was this man's life. And it's just. No, and he is a joke now.

50:48Like you see him on red carpet, but it's always a jokey Chris Humphries. Ha ha ha. Like he's a joke. And I oddly like feel defensive of him. Like, can we leave this man alone? What's it for all? I agree. As a Kim fan, like I moved on and forgave and we can move forward. And she's obviously like, like very happy in her life. But let's let Chris Humphries lie. Let Chris Humphries lie. I seriously have had enough. Don't be out here making me defend Chris Humphries. We always defend Chris Humphries. I know. I actually feel so bad for him. I know. But it's also like a little bit on him. Like he could have done something with his life.

51:25Like he had the biggest stage in the world and also all this sympathy from Kin's fans. Like go make something of yourself. He succumbs to the victimhood. Yeah. Like he became the victim he wished to see in the world. Like he didn't. You're right. He didn't pick himself up by his bootstraps and become a great man. Make the moment work for him. He's the name on everybody's lips. Like he could have done something with his life. And he didn't. So that's also on him. He also then like really like his career deteriorated and basketball like they don't give a fuck if you're popular in popular culture.

51:53Like you good? Are your points going in the basket? Like he just started to like stink it up too. I think it took a toll on him like and it started to affect his playing. Sad but like if Tristan can do it. If Tristan can get on the court week after week. Tristan's like can't. But like he's always playing. No he's really not good anymore. Okay maybe today he's not good but like ever since the original. It's been a slow decline. Like he got on the court and played basketball after the Jordan Woods drama while people were booing him. Like if Tristan can do it, you can do it. It's kind of like how we have to come and do the show every day.

52:24Like if someday we say something, we get like a lot of backlash. Like the next day we can't hide. Like we have to come out here. It's true. We are. We are the Tristan Thompson's of the podcasting sphere. We are. But the haters like aren't in the room with us. You know. Oh, that's so true. Like physically. Physically. He has to listen. He gets like booed through games and he still plays and they still put him on because he obviously scores points. I think Tristan's like pretty decent basketball. What team does he play for? Cleveland. No, Jackie. Yes, True was in Cleveland on last week's episode.

52:56True went to Cleveland for her first game. Chloe was there. Everyone thought they were together, but they weren't. Oh, yeah, you're right. He played on Cleveland like at the beginning of. Beginning of his career. Then I think he went to the Celtics. Then he went to L.A. Not the Lakers. I believe the Clippers. And now back to Cleve. Got it. Okay. Let's talk about Summer House. So the episode opened and we kind of like put to bed the Paige Kyle thing, which like I didn't like. Like I feel like it ended before it was really over. But Paige's whole thing was like this is not my circus, not my monkeys.

53:27Like leave me out of it. So she wasn't going to sit and like go tiff or tat with Kyle on like the Craig stuff or the Hannah stuff, which I kind of did want to see. But it's not her problem. I agree with her. Like I just, Kyle gets away with too much. Yeah. I think they're just like brushing it under the rug again. And because Paige and Craig have since broken up, it's not going to flare up again. Otherwise it would have. And it just becomes like this bigger dust bunny under the rug of their relationship. But you know what? Some things are just like always going to be a conflict. And you can either let it ruin your relationship or just ignore it.

53:57And I think for them, especially with Amanda, they just have to ignore certain things. That works. It makes the show less interesting because we can't really ever like fully dissect. and it renders Kyle and Amanda like kind of irrelevant to most storylines because there's not much that can be done about it. I actually really enjoyed this episode for the reason that it felt very different than episodes in the past. Like they all went out. I don't even care that there weren't cameras. They never all go out together and they actually didn't go out for 30 minutes. They were home at 2.30. Like they went out, then they also had like separate dinners.

54:33I liked that dinner with Paige, Wes, Craig, like Rand not Craig excuse me Kyle no what's his name the tooth Craig Kyle Carl Carl tooth boy so I like that like random crew it made for interesting conversation like it was just different and then and when they're all sitting around the pool like talking to Emeril I can't remember a time when they've ever all been in the pool I think it was because they were all hung over so they all had to just be sat whatever like they usually just lay in bed or lay in the couch it's like if I see that kitchen one more fucking time it was nice to see them in a different part of the house.

55:08Yeah. And that Imrule thing was like actually interesting. Also like really crazy that he shared. Yeah. Well, first of all, I think he was speaking very cautiously because he didn't want to make it seem like he only married his ex-girlfriend for a green card. And even if he did say that, I do feel like it's too late. Like you got your green card. Yeah. See you suckers. Yeah, but so he said like we were going to get married anyway, but just like the immigration issue just like expedited us getting married. but he didn't say how long they were married for yeah and i just wanted to know more about like life as you know living here illegally what he was saying like i found that to be so interesting like i just of all the things he was going to say i was not expecting him to say that no and i wonder if like the fact that he got married young is why now he's like a male gigolo but i i don't think so he didn't make the clear distinction as to what about the marriage forced him out of monogamy forever yeah and like him i he added some you know he value to the episode last night and sharing his story but otherwise him using like the house as his personal brothel hotel not really like interesting to me i agree especially when they don't even show us the girls yes he's like a lone wolf he's literally like a border like when comes home separately renting a room from yes to bring people back and that's it and aside from the conversation by the pool like he doesn't even engage with the cast.

56:33He's going to need to do more. Now, let me tell you who's pissing me all the way off. It's Jesse Solomon. He berated this girl into liking him, right? He was so aggressive. I love you, I love you, I love you. Sleeping in the same bed. You're my girlfriend. And the second she starts to show interest, he's pulling back. And that's just the most toxic trait. And I really can't get over how much it bothers me that all the girls in the house are gassing up Jesse, being like, she's jealous. She's insecure. She says you can't comment on pictures. like you literally said you loved her after meeting her like it just that's actually the definition and people always overuse these words that's love bombing right like love bombing love and then like when the girl shows interest you're gone I just and then next week he starts fucking around with Sierra like he's really pissing me off I don't know if it's love bombing because I feel like love bombing like also leads to like some sort of toxicity which I don't think Jesse Solomon is toxic but I think he's very insincere and I think he's very unserious and he doesn't like think about what he's saying and like what those words will mean to someone he's just saying it because he's that's how he feels in that moment I believe that in that moment he's like I love her like what's not to love but your words carry weight and you can't say stuff like that if then you want to go and rub Sierra's leg and hump her in the pool and to be honest like I do like him like up until this point when he went back to his room and farted like I he was like oh I haven't been able to fart for 12 hours and he lets out the biggest fart I will never be able to look at him the same like he was in his underwear and he like squatted a little bit like he was so disgusting to me in that moment in like a physical sense it's so funny i'm so over him like you loved him and you thought that was funny no no um no yeah i'm really getting over him i don't like how he doesn't want to like progress with lexi and how he doesn't understand why like getting all of lexi and getting her exclusivity and she's not going to be dating brooklyn beckham anymore right and presley gerber because she's focused on you why that doesn't mean that you have to pull back with other people as well like everything is a trade-off and the fact that he doesn't see like you're gonna get this prize but these are the things that you will have to quote unquote give up or you they'll have to change about yourself you're not changing yourself but you change your behaviors when there's another person in your life and that she is coming off as like crazy for wanting those things and that the other girls are endorsing that she wants too much from him that that like i know people that's type of behavior they literally roasted west for at the reunion last year i just want to say i i think this phrase is overused but i do think in a situation like that like they're not being girls girls because agreed they're they're really throwing she's really not even asking for a lot like really the bare minimum and even a person who's not a jealous person like i could never be one of these people in the house who it's like you are seeing someone and then that person is like laying on top of another person or like yeah legs crossed over another person or like even when they cut to some of the stuff he said at the beach about like lindsey's boobs and stuff like inappropriate inappropriate and so i mean at such an early stage in their relationship i would just be like okay we have different like ideas of commitment relationships like how you behave so i don't think it would work um even the way they all dress around each other it's like if some people are in relationship it's just not for like i it's not for me yeah i agree um i do quickly back to the beach really want to talk about the conversation between danielle and lindsey i can't stand her and like i definitely am like biased i just don't like her but then she does things like she's so awful could you have come into a conversation with your quote-unquote best friend who like you're you're also like newly back together so you're not trying to like cause drama could you have come in more judgmental about her life choices like if she moved in with turner you would say she's moving too fast but because she's not living with i'm sorry i don't know if we're supposed to like say her boyfriend's name i can't decide okay well because she's not living with her boyfriend which is definitely unconventional but there's nothing conventional about how she's lived her life up until this point there's nothing conventional about how her daughter was like conceived like it's just the lindsey way and it's like get on board or shut up like when also what the fuck do you know you have a boyfriend no like what do you have you don't know shit no and there's no template for what lindsey is doing and so her approach is like we did this thing very unconventionally but the rest of our like relationship we're going to try and like follow a a more normal roadmap because I think that's what will be best for us and okay like that works for me and if she'd said this thing was unconventional so the rest of our relationship is going to be unconventional and we are going to live to I would say okay that works for me it's like whatever works for you Lindsay like if you want him there all the time and to live with you and you're pregnant like and that's what's best for you let him move in if you don't want him there and you don't want to put that pressure on a relationship and you want to have some your own space because this is like a new person and that works for you great like she should just be everything she shared blanket support such yes especially because she's so happy she's clearly she's trying to be cautious too like like even though it might not be for everyone she's making the right decisions for herself it's not like someone's like you know when you see someone making decisions you don't agree with and they also seem to be suffering like you say to them like listen i think this is not what's best for you but she obviously what happened your mic flag is upside down oh who gives a fuck Me?

1:01:34I move around all the time. I change it all every day. I'm always moving my mic around. How are people going to know when they see this clip how amazing our show is and where they can tune in? Because they will be hearing the words coming out of my mouth. But I guess for the deaf community. If this clip stopped you dead in your tracks and you don't know where to find it, we are the toast. Okay? They could have seen yours. They could have seen the iPad on your lap and the one right here. Yeah. Or they could have seen your mic flag. Sorry. Continue with your thought. I don't remember that's the end of it just it's also coming from someone who last year was like you're moving too fast you're moving too fast you're moving too fast so look she's being cautious she's doing things differently she's just a contrarian yeah she's just like a she just wants to say the opposite of what someone is doing would be better for them what Lindsay sees in her as like a friend I'll never know she cleans up the party she sets up the party she does a lot of the physical like maybe not mentally and emotionally is she a great friend but like physically she's a good friend Especially for a pregnant person.

1:02:33That's a good point. You know, and sometimes you need someone to cover. You wouldn't love a physical friend. Yeah, that's what I keep been around for. Another random thing that I found interesting from the episode was Wes talking about his job. I actually think that show that Complex gave him is a good idea. I'm surprised I haven't heard of it because this was last summer. The show obviously has made no waves on social media. But it's a good concept. It reminds me a little bit of like Chicken Shop. Yeah. But like American. and he's just like this very all-American relatable guy. I thought it was a great idea.

1:03:05I wonder why it wasn't successful. Maybe it is successful. Plenty of people have like web shows like this and you might not have heard of them. Plus it's on Complex so you don't consume, like go to their YouTube page, like go look at the, I'm sure it does fine. I think he interviews like, it was weird that he said BC and D because it's like your guests are going to see this. Yeah, rude. Yeah, rude. I think he also interviews Summer House, like reality stars. Oh, yeah. It reminds me like he - Yeah, but like West date ever. oh a cute name too he reminds me also a little bit of the guy who hosts um wing stop what's oh my god yeah hot ones hot ones like he's just very personable very down to earth i actually think it has great potential yeah i'm only seeing three videos but i'm just on the search page but um just because i don't know if he still works for complex what you don't oh I don't know if he still works.

1:03:55Well, then he's like a very employed individual, which is impressive and also surprising because like how badly he came off on TV last year. But he was working for Bleacher Report. I saw a clip of him on Jason Tardik's podcast talking about how he was banned from the NFL, which is like interesting. Yeah. And then he was also sharing how his week, like he's going from New York to here to there. Like he's booked and busy and good for him. Yeah, Hustler. Yeah. I agree. And I like that he had that complex show. I think that they should bring it back. Like if there was something there. And I also think that for him, he's like a good person to be a reality star because he like works in new media and rising tide raised all sides and he'll get more views on his on his media things.

1:04:34And it's good for complex or wherever he's working. But then I also think that it's it's good for him as like a person on this show to see him like employed and working doing other things for men on reality TV to make a career of being a media personality is so hard, which is why I love Harry Jowsey. and the other ones complain like carl well it's easier to be a woman influencer right oh shut up look at west wait did you see that carl is now crowdfunding or what's it called crowdsourcing soft bar i did i actually bookmarked it uh i just about died when i saw that so as you guys know from last season carl has this idea to open up a bar that doesn't serve alcohol lindsey like shred him straight to filth that it's one of the worst ideas he's ever had and he is still you know going he's had a launch party he had he literally he made merch i thought like the bar was about to be open meanwhile and he's talking about his investors meanwhile he doesn't have any investors he doesn't have anything he then posted we're so excited we are raising money crowdfunding and so basically like i can give 200 to become like a 0.1 ownership in a bar in brooklyn um the reception was not positive as a shock to nobody um i was floored to hear that because It's just the way he's been acting up until this point.

1:05:51I assume that the bar, he was like sharing recipes on TikTok I saw. I thought we were there. I thought the bar had like partners and that he has investors. Yeah. So, you know, someone else has this idea and he's going to be the face of it too. And okay, that works. I saw that he was crowdfunding. And then I also, I believe that this season they have an event for Soft Bar. He has like an event at the house that's like a soft launch. And that's a year ago and you still don't have money to open the bar. And also, like, it's expensive to open a bar for sure. But he makes good money from the show. And he has investors.

1:06:24And you guys can't cobble together enough for, like, one space to just. I don't know that he has investors. He keeps saying. He just, like, made it seem that way. We, we, we. I'm the investor. Yeah, no. I think the minimum was, like,$200. The comments were not it. I was giggling hard. I'm going. I'm trying to find it. But I don't know if I will. and I know he can't stop because it'll be like an admission that Lindsay was right but before the train gets like fully off the tracks he really needs to stop it's a bad idea clearly like you tried right it's been over a year that you're trying to get this up and running there's no interest from investors there's no interest from crowdfunding like at what point do you let an idea die you don't because you don't want Lindsay to have been right I don't know I feel like he's gonna keep it going I feel like the cast are really gassing him up every time I see one of these posts like everyone is like go carl this is awesome here people say that they're not showing up that's the difference yeah no here's the the post he posted the opportunity to invest in softbar is coming soon we've been building the vision of softbar mindful blah blah blah blah our thoughtful and exciting programming and events make this experience like no other softbar is a platform that offers incremental revenue sources and significant corporate value stay tuned to learn more about how you can get involved and own a piece of soft bar like okay lula roe and then page like let's fucking go page page that's really nice of her i think she's really trying to be on good terms with him specifically she is carl she's really supportive it's really sweet um but at some point i feel like she's actually doing him a disservice yeah because it's one thing especially with like online stuff like if you launch merch like something people can buy from home or support from home as a reality star it's kind of easy money a physical bar but i think he like sees themselves as like the east coast banner pump rules this is their sir the difference is sir first of all existed before and sir served alcohol yeah and i think a bar that does it it is and i don't know how many times you can get people to show up yeah i i don't know let's see what happens he obviously has big plans he's got a lot of branding and trucks and and stickers so we shall see and then also oh another also if anybody contributed to the crowdfunding like please let me know how that goes yeah and how much do they need to raise i don't know the minimum was like two hundred dollars from for any person to do it we hit our goal i mean a restaurant like that's expensive i don't know i imagine like fifty thousand dollars at least what more software investment that's assuming he has no other investors no he's not contributing anything personally okay they've raised 50k and their their goal is 75 000 minimum goal but it might be like go fund me where it keeps going up wait they've reached 50 i'm shocked so and by the way by the way that's a lot oh you just said 50k is what they need oh my god i did and so i mean if that's all small contributors that's a lot of people a lot of investors maybe i'm wrong i don't think i am but maybe i am maybe they've got a deck they've got decks on decks that's what people who aren't successful do they make decks i'm sorry like if you have so many decks it means you're not busy also like the first bullet point is such a shark tank no-no entering it like the na industry is an a nearly$1 trillion business.

1:10:01If we could just get a piece of that pie, we'd have a billion. They hate that on Shark Tank. They hate that. It's a great point. It says entering the$987 billion non-alcoholic beverage market in hip NYC space. They don't like that. No, they don't. Like, don't tell me how you're going to get a piece of this big pie. Like, that's just not, that's pie in the sky. Oh my God. That's also our show. So thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast on Monday Morning Show. we deliver the fast five stories you need to have for money through Friday and YouTube so you can see us on YouTube so you can see us on the YouTube or also on the podcast anywhere podcasts can be found so that's Spotify, Stitcher, Public Radio, Radio, Radio, Castbox, all the places you want to visit the podcast find us the toast leave a five star review bitch okay about how beautiful studying and wickedly talented we are just do it no no no no no no love ya bye