Italia, Y'all!: Thursday, February 12th, 2026

0:02good morning girlies it's the toast it's jackson claude and we're your favorite show the fast five things you need to know we'll start your day off swirly it's the toast they sound amazing welcome back to the toast and happy thursday that feels like a friday it really feels like a friday in the sense that i don't think that we should work tomorrow yes i agree i just feel like there's so much happening today it's like a very celebratory day and tomorrow's just feels like like extra and we have a long weekend because it's the weekend of the president oh my god i forgot It's odd that it's a bank holiday on Monday.

0:47And of course we will be honoring it. Of course we would never not let a bank holiday go. Our presidents. Of course. Our banks. It's such an important historical day. Yeah. Maybe we should take a trip to Mount Rushmore. Maybe we should take off Tuesday too. Just to be like really. Respectful. Yeah. Very Charlie Puth of us. And maybe Friday, the Friday before. But we didn't. And we're doing a show tomorrow. Just one day. And it's enough. It's also like tomorrow is Hauer's birthday. Hauer's fourth birthday. So I'm already like thinking of tomorrow as like a fun celebration day. And it's just giving like weekend.

1:18Right. Yeah. It's a freaking weekend. But it is Thursday. And that's okay. And it is what it is. It is what it is till it ain't anymore. Are those real lyrics? What do you mean? Like you think I just made that up? No, I just want to confirm. Yeah, it's a Kacey Musgraves song. So take it up with Kacey. I love her. But that's not great. great and like it is what it is till it ain't anymore like it's not and i believe that's from the patch of material album her um her greatest work yeah it's just funny you know that everybody's out here thinking they know casey musgraves because they listened to golden hour and then dropped off um but i've been knowing her and i will take credit and i know you're going to argue with me on this but historically in the family like i introduced everyone to casey musgraves when Merry-Go-Round came out.

2:11Anything you want to say to that? So I'm not going to agree with you wholeheartedly, but I'm not going to dispute you. I remember where we were. I don't remember how I, like I don't have a conflicting tale. I just, I don't remember it being you, but if it's you, it's you. I also introduced the family to Luke Combs, but nobody wants to give me credit for that. See that one, like I will dispute you on that. So when we hosted the CMA Red Carpet for the first time, he had just released When It Rains and Pours, And I was telling you guys about this like cutie little redhead who had a song. And it was like making you a redhead.

2:43That's how you think of him. Is he not? I don't think of him as a redhead. Like when I think of like famous redheads throughout history. Oh, Luke Holmes is one of you. You don't know that? I never thought of it. Am I just like making stuff up? No, I guess. This is like when Taylor Strecker came on the podcast and was like Julia Roberts, like famous redhead. And I said, what the fuck are you talking about? What hair color would you consider Luke Holmes to have? No, let me just look like a picture of him. But he's one of those like brunettes that has like red. No, no, he's more than that. He's red.

3:12You don't think he's a brunette? Oh, Luke Holmes's hair color is generally considered dark brown. He has a fully red beard. I don't know what chat GBT is talking about. I'm right. He's a redhead. That's so funny. What do you consider? Like, look at the photos. What do you say? He's not. Yes. He's not. He has a fully red beard. But look at his hair. You said redhead. Okay, look at that second picture on Google. That's from the... This one? No, no, top. That's from the one it reads the... He's wearing a hat, so you can't see his hair color. But you see his fully red beard. No, but there are men who have brown hair and red beards, and they're not considered redheads.

3:46There are men who have brown hair and, like, red-ish beards. His beard is the same color as your hair. But they're not considered redheads. I don't care what is considered what. I have eyes. This is my community, and, like, I think I speak for everyone. I say, like, we... I would love to, like, include him. It's your what? It's my Q-munity. I would love like if he wants to be considered redhead like I would let him in no problem Luke Holmes what do you consider yourself I'll have to compare with Shannon we sort of are like the council women you are the Volturi whenever something happens like in the redhead world and there are things stuff happens and I know stuff happens because like Shannon and I discuss okay like what's the most recent thing you guys discussed at a Volturi meeting oh at a redheads meeting let me search my phone you know last night was twilight themed tonight on mass singer oh we need to talk about who got eliminated i know billy ray was oh sorry spoiler alert was eliminated on last night's episode i think everybody pretty much guessed that and the thing is i need to keep tuning in because i have to fucking find out who picasso is what my conversation with shannon i'm just searched redhead in my phone so here here's what comes up between me and shannon me yes it's more painful for fairer skin and then everything hurts more for redheads she goes I just assume redheads have shit end of the stick anyways I said it's harder and more painful for redheads you know that right your favorite statistic she said such redhead things so that's so you weren't really talking about major current events at the most no but I think when we were like both experiencing childbirth like there are things to know as a redhead and that was in the fall so what's the biggest drama in the redhead community like like what it's well like you know when a famous redhead dyes her hair or when somebody tries to join no I don't when somebody tries to join not a big deal everybody's always like dying their hair a famous redhead dyeing their hair is drama in the red that's like so crazy to me um hurt your feelings no no i just can't understand it yeah it might be like how i feel or felt like when a fellow fat person like decided to lose weight perhaps like being left behind like what you don't love us anymore perhaps um and then also sometimes like there's a couple like iconic redheads that Shannon and I feel like we keep tabs on, you know?

5:53Okay, who? Madeline Petsch? No. Who are famous redheads? Like Julia Roberts, of course. But like not even. Not even. Like we have Isla Fisher, Amy Adams. Yeah, of course, of course. The classics. The classics. But I believe one of Amy Adams is not a real redhead. One of them isn't. But do you care? Like are you like an authenticator? No. No, you know what? It's like if I never knew, then you're a redhead. And you're the elk of a redhead. Because there are also people who are like the elk of redheads where it's like, like jacy marie but she's not but she's not but i consider her a redhead okay that's very big of you like a very um you welcome everyone with open arms i do i love that and she like it does such justice for the community she makes it so cool okay so yeah shannon and i have to get together for our quarterly redhead review so we watched the olympics last night okay um so much going on is anyone familiar what the hell is his name jason we were talking about breastfeeding that's why i I was talking about painful for redheads.

6:47Got it. Jason Stolls, Justin Stolls. Oh my God. I only know. Stool drum. Of course. And Utah. So he's a speed skater and he won gold last night for America. And they were just telling the story. It was literally ice princess. So he grew up in like very, very rural Wisconsin. And, you know, I watch things now like as a parent, like I'm always looking at his mother, right? And grew up in very rural Wisconsin on a pond and, you know, tales all this time, the pond froze and him and his siblings were like, what should we do? And they literally made like a rink. and he just fell in love with speed skating.

7:17He lived 40 miles from the nearest facility. He was like training in his basement. His parents drove him every day, 40 miles, 40 miles. And then like watching him win gold, I was literally crying for the mom. Like she must be so proud. He was so cute. Like, you know when they give them a pack, all of this is, they air it in prime time, but it all happened already. But I try not to spoil anything for myself. So you know when they're like airing the package that he definitely like did good. You know, so I was like, I was getting hyped. Yeah, I'm so onto Peacock, by the way. Like I know them. and they just waste so much of the coverage.

7:45I put on the coverage and like, why am I watching a men's hockey game of two countries that aren't even like, it wasn't America, but it wasn't like big ones either. Like, I'm like, girl, get out of here. But you know, there's, they've got to cover. There's so many things to cover. Who were the teams playing? Maybe they are like really good teams that will end up in the finals. I don't know, but it was annoying. It wasn't like the big hockey team. No, it wasn't like Russia versus Canada. What's that game? Miracle. Miracle. It wasn't political. on 34 it wasn't political it was like sweden you know like someone like literally neutral oh no switzerland both they both are so lovely and neutral and neutral yeah which i just want to say that's you switzerland ate down with that neutrality thing like yeah i feel that sometimes you just don't want to get involved yeah it's like this is not literally this is not my plate but sometimes don't you feel called yeah of course like i think switzerland famously turned their Jews away when they were like escaping.

8:41For sure. So much for not getting involved. It's an imperfect system. Okay. It's an imperfect system of course. What else can I tell you guys about before we dive in? Actually the stories are like really. There are a lot of stories today. I know and I've like personally fallen down the rabbit hole about the Casey Wasserman thing which I'm sure we're going to be talking about. I have started to enter like Epstein reels like I'm getting a lot like of Epstein content from the files and it's not a good place to be. I don't know if I said this on the podcast but I was talking to you about it there was and I was so annoyed I was reading this like thing a carousel on Instagram and then Ruby woke up from his nap and I like lost the carousel forever um but it was all the Bravo Leberties Bravo adjacent people mentioned in the Epstein files now almost all of them it was fairly um innocuous like nothing really none of them met Epstein nothing like associated or an accomplice but like some guy was emailing Jeffrey about how he had dinner last night and met a guy named Whitney who's putting together a show called Sarina's.

9:40Sounded amazing. Yeah about like you know Russian princesses living in New York. So Whitney never met Epstein. The only one who's like involved in a way that's like a little close is Carol. Radswell. Also Annabelle from Ladies of London. Annabelle from Ladies of London who now like it's so easy. She's passed. She has passed and now it's easy to look back on like her death as being. But she was like asking Jeffrey for money. She was like he was like an investor. Like really weird. Yeah. And talking a lot about girls. Like young girls. Yeah. Her emails were bad. Her emails were bad. I would put her in bad category.

10:15Mauricio Umansky was in there but like so on a huge list of business people. Yeah like here are a bunch of business people whose net worth like it was so unfair. Like it's not Mauricio's not in Epstein Piles. Caroline Stanberry was in there in a way that I did not think was suspicious. Me neither. But I but it was also like without context it's hard to understand but like Like they were just talking about her. Yeah. It's also crazy how like frequently these people who were doing like really bad things were emailing. Like why don't you just call them? Like. Yeah. But one I think they thought they could get away with it forever because they did and they were.

10:45And they still. By the way like they still get away with it. No one's gone to. No one's been arrested. Yeah. Even like the names who you know are like the names. The obvious ones who are obviously. Wes Lexner. Lex Wesner. Wes Wesner. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing. Bill Gates. No no. Literally everyone. Like and I think that. And it's like I was watching an interview with his ex-wife And she was asked about it Melinda? Uh-huh And it's like no one's being asked about it except Melinda No, and like she's not even denying it Really? Like she was just like it brings up a lot of painful memories Oh, I didn't see that Yeah, she was with NPR Yikes Yeah, like okay And then he's just gonna go talk somewhere and tell us what to do Right, that's so crazy No, it's really that it's very upsetting Yeah but the the amount of people like just and so sorry all back to the Wasserman thing which I started seeing some things about on TikTok a couple of days ago but it's only recently become more of a big story because some bigger names are talking about it which we'll get into and then of course so sad James Van Der Beek so is that a story yes it is um like really like so upsetting sometimes a celebrity death like just hits you sideways yeah so lots to discuss today Lots to discuss in the stories.

11:53What are the other stories? Not to like. I have like one fun Olympic story of like, just like an Olympic fun fact of a crazy thing that's happening. Okay. And you didn't know that was happening. Okay. So I like to add one of those a day. Okay. Well, if I tell you all of them right now, like, doesn't that spoil the fun? Yeah. But like sometimes it's nice to know what you're getting into. Okay. Like a little teaser. A little teaser. Okay. But I'm going to make it like super teasy. Okay. New face of Skims. A hot bombshell has entered the Skims campaign. Okay. Oh speaking of bombshells I don't know if you saw big news Iris and TJ Who by the way are still together Iris got her lip filler dissolved Iris I love when and I say this as somebody who got lip filler two weeks ago I love when girls get their lip filler Dissolved I feel like it's a real coming of age Story but do you feel like Getting lip filler And then getting it dissolved you don't look Like the same person who never got it all like You always leave a little bit in there It's kind of like the best way to do lip fillers Is to have lip filler and get it dissolved A thousand percent because you still leave a little bit in there.

12:53Yeah. And you have like this new puffed up shape. You're not like the person that you were before you got them. No, but I feel like we all remember where we were and Brielle Beerman got her lip filler dissolved. Like it was a cultural reset. Kylie. Brooke Snader just did it. Like, yeah, it's such a. But they still have like bigger lips than when they started. Of course. And that's the whole point. Yeah. But I feel like the look now is get filler and dissolve it. Not just skip it. Iris looks amazing. Not just skip it entirely. Oh, no, no, no. Iris looks amazing. Oh, I have to see. Yeah. So do you feel like we could dive in?

13:22I don't know. Yeah, except that I actually am so, I'm kind of becoming like a moisture queen. So by the way, my hands and my ankles, ankles, what am I talking about? What are they called at the bottom of your feet? Heels. Had been so cracked. I haven't been on top of my moisturization because I thought being in Florida, we didn't have winter skin. No, you definitely do. And today's sponsor, Gold Vaughn, has been keeping me in check. I don't know if you guys know. I heard other postpartum moms talking about this. Do you know you're more likely to have dry skin postpartum like as if we don't have enough to deal with of course and if you're breastfeeding it takes all the moisture out of your body my hands get dry my nail beds get dry my elbows are dry dry elbow nobody wants to see that I have like I'm now like that person with hand cream and actually I did hand cream we were playing mahjong yesterday and I whipped out my gold bond hand cream and I was like asking the girlies if they wanted and everyone said no they're like it'll make the tile slippery can I tell you I feel like I didn't play good because I was like really slippery with my hand cream too close to the sun I did so I'm really excited about today's sponsor Gold Bond, if you have been alive or conscious for the last 20 years, Gold Bond is an industry leader.

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14:52So like being proactive. And just because you escaped winter weather doesn't mean you escape winter skin. I feel like a lot of people don't know that. No, and the sun can be drying as well. So true. Do you know within minutes of applying, 85 % of consumers agree that their skin looks healed, hydrated, and healthier. Also, it's smooth skin in just three days. So if you're trying to get dry skin back on track and winter has been doing its thing, it's such an easy way to add into your routine. Yeah, I started like a week ago and I'm good. Because also I'm doing a lot of music classes and like you take your shoes off.

15:18And it's like, it's mortifying. Yeah. Yeah. So I can't be showing up. I like embarrassing my family with the crusty feet. And with Mahjong, like everyone's looking at our hands. It's so true. I've been staying on top of like my manicures. I can't have like a cracked knuckle. It's so true. Like flaky and the newly flakes on the Mahjong mat. But I also just want to say like I endorse taking like a moment's break during the show to rub our hands. I love that. I feel like I'm at the spa. Yes. And it smells good. As much as one could be at the spa in the middle of a podcast. And Lifehack, you don't really have to shower because you smell so good from your cream.

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19:29He met his final days with courage, faith and grace. There's so much to share regarding his wishes, love for humanity and the sacredness of time. Those days will come for now. We ask for a peaceful privacy as we grieve our loving husband, father, son, brother and friend. So I'm like so upset. So he has five kids, six, six kids. I think every like we haven't like seen him publicly a lot since he announced his diagnosis and every time we saw him like he looked you know like he was withering away so I don't think it's like a huge surprise but it's so sad I don't know like I don't watch Dawson's Creek so that's not how I came to James Van Der Beek I think a lot of people came to him to Dawson's Creek I came to him to Don't Trust the Bee he was huge I want to say is his greatest work like I know I agree I know he's like known for Dawson but like him and Don't Trust the Bee if you haven't ever seen it treat yourself first of all It's an amazing show.

20:17And like he plays himself and it's just comedy gold. Yeah. And then a lot of people came to him on Dancing with the Stars. He was like so popular. So really just like an America sweetheart. This is so sad. I saw Becca Tobin today shared. They started a GoFundMe for his family because he has six kids and, you know, leaving behind a wife to take care of all that. And it had reached like over a million dollars and so many celebrities donated, which obviously like I'm obnoxious. And I wanted to see. And so I think like. yeah because also um apparently he like does he wasn't like making money from dawson's creek like he's not making the money that you would think that he would make oh he was on a show that's like you know syndicated and was has a million seasons like you would think it's like mailbox money and like they are not in that sort of position so as of this morning it's 1.4 million dollars and then the people who donated um jonathan chu that's john m wicked right 10 000 um guy o siri 10 000 um i don't know a lot of other people donate 10 000 but i don't know that i'm only saying the people that i know um and then i anonymous too a bunch of anonymous a bunch of people whose name um names i don't know and then i saw zoe selton a day and it donated 2 500 a month and it says there's like a green thing that says monthly oh wow like every month um the celebrities like are getting flack for not donating enough and you know posting about it's like well why don't you give it um all's that to say there's now over a million dollars and she's like now a single mom of six kids so I'm not I'm not gonna clown on the celebrities yeah in this moment no not today no it's very nice that everyone's doing that and I think he's someone who's just like beloved period I know everybody loves him not like see him in person I remember I saw yeah when we were in LA I hadn't Margo and I were really excited I hadn't watched don't trust the bee yet so you guys chased him down the street and I and he was nice yeah um no because because our behavior was off like like acted like an animal no no no like we chased him down the street like you said he was with his family and like he just wasn't interested in like being a celebrity yeah and I don't hold it against him no of course you know as I've like grown up like I can realize you were in the wrong like that he didn't owe me anything in that moment no and I feel like and it doesn't change how I feel about him if anything I'm just like okay so he's more interested in being a father than like being a celebrity go off king go off I completely agree Like such an upsetting way for this story to have ended.

22:35And just like sad, really sad. Yeah. I feel really sad for his wife. Me too. And his children. I know. They're so cute. They have like this troop. Are they all girls? No. But they're all like platinum blonde. Yeah. They all look like him. They look like the Von Trapp family. Like so cute. Yeah. Really sad. Really sad. Are you ready for our next story? the teaser that I mentioned new face of skims I can't believe you didn't see this I did Kylie Jenner strips down for a new skims underwear campaign so like skims did the most yesterday announcing like new everyday cotton collection for skims like Kim posted like a little behind the scenes vlog she's trying out her content creation and she's doing that on tiktok too Kylie is like the new face of this new collection so it seems as though in the last like month Kylie decided to show up for work like she also did a lemmy campaign right um and i feel like she's been like all the sisters like do each other stuff every once in a while but like not really kylie yeah and i feel like maybe they had to talk with her or something because now she's like not done two hmm interesting maybe she like wants another plane you know maybe she's hustling i don't feel like that's how she gets another plane by like doing campaigns for her sisters i feel like you take like the day right maybe she needs them to like watch her kids or something so she can go on a trip with Kimmy.

23:49She needs something from her sisters and that's why she's now done two campaigns. What would make Margot do something like? She is Margot and that, I guess like, I don't know, like what, but Kylie's in a unique position where she doesn't really need anything from her sisters. No, she doesn't. And like, she doesn't need to use them for clout. She's like more interesting and famous than she's ever been. I feel like with the Skims thing, like she could just also have wanted like a bombshell campaign. This is like very good PR for Kylie and her body. Yeah, it's good PR for Kylie and her looks and her ability.

24:16I don't know what she got out of the Lemmy thing. Herb, I think it was a Kylie Cosmetics thing though. Was it? I think so. And that's like, you know, they need relevant, like they need to like stay up, not saying they're irrelevant. They need to stay up in the culture. Oh, so let me. What was it like a beauty gummy? Kylie Cosmetics, you're right, a skin one. Speaking of actually saw the craziest thing this morning. I saw the craziest ad for Lemmy today with the influencer, Michaela Naguera, your favorite. My favorite influencer to hear about from you. She did Lemmy Purr, which is the sexy one.

24:50So you knew it was going to be. How'd she say it? It's a great, once you hear what she says, you're not going to care. Like that's, okay, ready? Can you play it? I have an embarrassing confession. And if you're my grandma or my mom, and I know you watch my videos, if you could just scroll on this one, that would be great. I love her. I have never been eaten out. I know. When I first told my friends this, their jaws dropped. I'm going to tell you why. I am so terrified that I'm gonna taste like shit I'm just being honest but in the new year I'm trying new things okay and when I saw Lemmy Purr was viral this is a vaginal probiotic gummy I was they are not paying her enough I don't know what they paid her but it's not enough mind you is that viral married is that viral I mean it has I'm in shock when is this video even from i didn't know i thought it was just gonna be like the way that she said it okay it has three and a half million views which for her is not like the video surrounding it have two million five million eight million two million one million um so it's a very high performing ad okay this is from two weeks ago i don't know how i'm just seeing it the comments no amount of money would make me say this somebody being like but you have a husband the other one you couldn't torture this information out of me somebody else the rent could not have been this high um yeah there i just was shocked it's not breaking news because i guess it's a two-week-old video oh my gosh um yeah maybe she wants a plane the things like would you do it for a plane no there are a lot of things that i would do for money um actually i have a campaign coming up that you guys are going to know exactly what i'm talking about okay it's like very much like Lisa Rinna doing depends like I'm very Lisa Rinna like that like I'm a hustler I do draw the line at certain things and I actually like you couldn't have paid me to make a video like that no but shout out to Lemmy she also could have like done a video for Lemmy Pearl like that wasn't like she didn't have to be so honest no and she yeah sorry how did we get here oh Lemmy yeah it just reminded me I saw it this morning and I was like it was one of the first things I saw when I woke up and I was like wow okay we're going there No.

27:04One thing about Michaela Naguera, she will always be famous. Yeah. She knows what she's doing. Wow. Mm-hmm. Wow. Well, Kylie's the new face of Skims. His pictures are insane. Oh, Timothy is just like. She's seriously never looked better. She looks drop dead gorgeous. This is like a modern version of becoming a Victoria's Secret angel, which like if Victoria's Secret was what it was, like Kylie would have been one, you know? Yeah. So, yeah, I can understand her doing this. I don't understand her doing the Lemmy thing, but I'm just saying they had a family talk. Like that was what I, that's how I interpreted this collaboration.

27:38Well, I like it. Me too. I like when Kylie's with her sister. I like when they all do their other, like they don't do it a lot. Oh, oh my God. I saw this video. I think I sent it to you. About Chloe. About Good American. Yeah. And it's not confirmed or whatever. It was just like purely conjecture, but it seems like she's not involved with Good American anymore. Yeah. She hasn't posted for Good American in like months. She posts mostly like Fabletics ads now. She's very involved. Which is a direct competitor. Good American recently launched at Leisure. right um like the followings like people unfollowed each other yeah the emigreed of it all like can somebody with insider knowledge let me know what is chloe kardashian's involvement in good american it seems very limited at the moment maybe her contract ended how can it be a contract for a company you started that's what it looked like but maybe like she started it like with emma but maybe she was more of like a face a face kind of how like people forget but when fabletics launched it was kate hudson's company you guys remember it was like kate hudson's launching athleisure I don't think she's been involved for many years She definitely got like a percentage of the company I thought she was still in it Right, like I think it might be one of those Yeah Like launching off the back of someone Yeah, and I think that like Maybe that has a term, you know If someone ever wants to get out of it Or you can re-up it Yeah, yeah Maybe Chloe felt like it was holding her back But like good American gang Like all that stuff That was so Chloe Good crew, what was it?

28:50The good gang Is that what it was called? The good guys? No The gals? Yes Like good American Good squad Yeah, good squad Yeah, that sounds right yeah yeah they all sound right yeah um yeah i feel like we'll we'll find out more in time because someone was just like on to it like that the reel that you saw the tiktok it's like one person like putting it together but eventually we'll probably know more yeah and shout out to my favorite creator who put it together i feel like that is georgie you have a favorite creator yeah she's like british and she doesn't give a fuck like she just makes a lot of pop culture content and like she does deep dives on like you know she's british so like british aristocrats it's like she does a lot of royal stuff that's how i found her um and she was one who put together this skims thing well emma's british now maybe that's how she landed there maybe that's how she got british connection but i find that some of those people who make those videos about like pop culture and stuff like they're so off base yeah right like they're insane you would like this girl like she has our our vibe and is she always on base no she just always gives like yeah she's on base yeah she's on base because like i'm down for you want to do a green scene yeah it's green screen content sure they're so off base with a lot of times like worse takes worse predictions yeah agreed agreed agreed get it together i only follow good ones i only follow get it together girls agreed because it's it's it's interesting it's my favorite type of like culture content yeah yeah um are you ready for our next story speaking of pop culture dorinda The medley is set to join E's Roni reboot after Jill Zarin's firing.

30:23So Dorinda is now joining the Golden Life. Is that what we're calling it right today? Golden Coast? The Golden Life. Okay. Featuring the original cast of Roni that was set to feature Jill Zarin, Sonia Morgan, Luann, and Ramona Singer, and Kelly Ben Simone. I don't know why she's not here. Oh, I knew that. I feel like they're positioning it due to the timing. It's like she's replacing Jill. but what I heard she's been in talks you don't get cast on a TV show in one day like I think she's been in talks to do it for a while and I think like they're trying to like continue the news story like the momentum flush out the Jill thing like and and make it a positive again but Dorinda doesn't live in Florida well she must be like getting her ducks in order she could probably spend they'll probably shoot for like a couple months she could spend a couple months right down here I hope she gives more to the show than she's giving on Traders she's like oh but it's funny because Traders I feel has been like positive for her because I feel like her going into the season like she's never she hasn't said anything vile and nasty to anyone she says like the lowest thing I don't know if they're like allowed to drink on set right remember when she was like making fun of Tinsley for like having to have a baby via IVF and so she's like were you in your turkey base like like the worst fucking thing you could say yeah yeah we haven't had a lot of that Dorinda although I do think that's why people like her and so like now especially in the absence of all the interesting characters like we're kind of rooting for Dorinda by default.

31:43Oh, well, also she's one of the few remaining ones who's familiar to us on Traitors. Like I don't know Natalie. I don't know Tara and Johnny, even though now watching the Olympics, I'm so rooting for them. Yeah. Yeah, we are rooting for Dorinda just because she's like there. By default, yeah. By the way, they finally dropped the Colton files. We watched. I watched. I've never, maybe like, I don't think I'm the only one who felt this way. And maybe it's because I was like waiting for it for so long that it felt so disappointing. But they did it differently than they've been doing all the other ones.

32:13And there is a theory, like people conspirizing that Rob told Colton or Colton knew Rob, like Colton knew something. And I kind of agree with those people now because for literally every person who's been eliminated since the season started, they film them finding out who the traitors are by flipping a playing card over and it has the person's picture on it. they did this like spooky thing with colton like the spirits tell me who it's candace and we don't actually see his face when they say the words candace and rob um it's giving setup it's giving fake yeah also we didn't get his guesses yeah like it was just done the way they've been doing it is perfect literally perfect i don't know why they decided to switch it up with the player people were anticipating most and it's also like when you're gonna do this video you don't need to cut anything like put the camera on them no edits what ask who you think that they is yeah sure ask who you think that they is he will say it and then have him open the cards and let us see his reaction press record i don't need an edit i don't need you to put the their pictures i know what the traitors are yeah i've been watching i don't need to see a full screen picture of candace and a screen picture of rob i need to see colton seeing a full screen picture of candace and a full screen picture of rob just put the camera on them okay yeah you're doing too much uh completely agree so I'm now like a Colton truther and I think that there's something weird going on interesting I'm not convinced yet you know what if they continue to make the videos of the future murdered people like different yeah then maybe they're like covering their tracks and maybe I'm not maybe I'm not convinced but if they go back to just doing it the normal way shite yeah those videos are a little like kind of a mess like it's a great idea so I didn't want to knock it but like oh you hate them no no no No, the execution.