Jesse Solomon, Peppa Pig & The Mailman: Thursday, April 10th, 2025

33:23I agree. She was like, that was fun. Put it out. Yeah. I like that. Sabrina's like, are you sure? She's a sweet little girl. I like her. It doesn't make Sabrina look bad. She's Sabrina. No, no. And she got to work with Dolly. Who can say that? I don't think it makes Dolly look bad. It was just bad. It was just a bad song. I don't blame anyone. We tried. We have to try. We tried. It's so important to try things. Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game. I believe it was the great Hilary Duff who once said that. Yeah. So Ed Sheeran. I've decided I like him. I have no problem with Ed Sheeran.

33:59I have no problem. I think that he's very talented. I think he suffers from kind of almost like a Taylor Swift syndrome where his most well-known music is his worst music. Because I have listened to like one or two Ed Sheeran albums in depth. And there are such good songs on there. and like the average person had never heard of them where I was like, bad habits lead to late night. Like actually play that song at my funeral because I want to be dead. Like I hate that fucking song. Yeah. You know? He's kind of like a victim of like the music pop radio complex. Yes, he is. Just my feelings. Are you ready for our next story?

34:38It's a little Mariska news. What is my girl up to? Her and Peter Herman are fine, right? They're fine, they're fine. It's about the other interesting fact of Mariska's life, which is that she's Jane Mansfield's daughter. Which is something that I know, but every time I hear it, I'm learning it for the first time. And just know, if you ever come to the show with a story on your iPad about Trouble in Paradise with Mariska and Peter, you have to handle me. Like, really. Like, you have. Yeah. No, but Mariska is detailing her quest to understand her late mother, Jane Mansfield, in a new documentary.

35:12She's such an underrated Nepo baby. She is. She's making a documentary called My Mom Jane about her mom, Jane Mansfield, the 1950s Halloween star who tragically died in 1967. So nearly 60 years after her untimely death, Jane's daughter. Didn't she die in a really crazy way? What is the way? I don't know a lot about Jane Mansfield except for that song, Jane Mansfield's Car. I'm sitting in Jane Mansfield's car from Mean Girls. From Mean Girls. Hold on. Let me just before I like make stuff up. Yeah. Yeah, she was in a crash, but she was only 34 when she died. So that's weird, that lyric then. About the car.

35:55Oh, that is really weird. What is that song? I'm independent. Okay, nothing's coming up in my Google search, so I'm glad I didn't say it. It sounds like you need this documentary. No, yes, okay, yeah, I'm right. Oh, it's falsely believed that she died. so they had said I thought that her car crash was so brutal that like it actually left her decapitated and like beheaded and that's sort of like what people say about her but I guess it's like a false rumor like Snopes.com was Jane Mansfield decapitated oh yeah she died in a traffic collision at 34 that's all this says yeah right right right and she had really interesting names for all of her kids because Mariska is obviously like we now know her but like is why it wasn't her name Marissa, you know?

36:45Zoltan and Miklos. Oh, nice. I didn't know Mariska had siblings, but she's now doing an HBO documentary about her mom's life that she both directed and produced. It will be released in June. She said, I feel grateful, fulfilled, and so proud to share this film. I never got to make a movie with my mom and she never got to make the kind of movie she wanted to make. Hashtag MyMomJane, which is the name of the documentary and now a hashtag, is a place of meeting for us. Now it's a hashtag, yeah. And words fail like to get pressed for the movie. No, I love that. Oh my God. I love that. That's what I was trying to say.

37:18Wow, that was like really scary. And words fail me to describe how meaningful it is to tell her story, my own and ours together. That's beautiful. I actually think this is a good documentary. I too don't know a lot about Jane Mansfield. Other than that, she's like a Hollywood girl from like the Hollywood golden age. Yeah. And that she's Mariska's mom. Yeah. But she reminds me she's like a Judy Garland, right? Yeah. So I think this will be great. It's a fun fact about her. It's the funnest fact about Mariska that I always forget because it's so. Random. Random and I learned it late in life. It's not something that I always knew.

37:54And like the timelines for me don't add up because like that golden age, Hollywood 60s, like is so long ago. I don't know how anyone in this world could be related to someone from that world. Well. Especially only one generation. She died in 1967. Mariska was three. so Mariska born in 1964 that feels right and yeah no like I get it it's just like it feels so far to me yeah well hopefully Peter's been really supportive I'm sure this has been like an emotional time for Mariska and I just know Peter's like been the most amazing husband and father maybe Peter will be in the documentary if they're like following Mariska at home you know maybe having breakfast with her family I would love actually like a small glimpse into their personal life Yeah.

38:35Because you know they have a lot of money. Yeah. And you know that they don't live like crazy, right? She lives in New York, definitely, because she films SVU here. They definitely live in like a brownstone. Totally. I bet I could find out where they live. But I feel like I'll end up on some list if I Google that. I'm just curious. Like that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not afraid. I hope that we do get a glimpse of that while she's like talking about her childhood. Maybe we get like flash forwards of her children's childhood. have we ever met mariska no but we've met peter so it feels like we know her by osmosis but i feel like we would have met her like somewhere like when we were like interns maybe you have like maybe you went to like a law and order premiere party i've never been invited to a law and order premiere party they probably have they've probably had 50 of them for 50 and they also have like a season wrap party so it's like 100 they're just always having parties and not inviting totally no I haven't put it out there you should get to go to set like you did for Blue Bloods I should get to go to set like I did for Blue Bloods we don't even talk about do you know Blue Bloods got cancelled like they ended it the show was off the air we just didn't talk about it and I think the fact that we didn't talk about it any final words yeah I love that show but all good things come to an end of course of course um but apparently everyone was really unhappy like tom sellick was like i want to still work oh he wants the show to go on the show yeah everyone did everyone wanted it like there was a lot of strife but so what's the issue i don't think it was doing as well as it once was yeah the golden age of blue bloods sort of ended i understand it's probably expensive to make too everyone has like high salaries at this point and it's all like on location in new york yeah so back to mariska yes hopefully we get some at-home scenes with her and peter perhaps some love making scenes i'll be tuning in are you ready for our fourth story some like random news i don't i don't know if this is a good idea snl is coming to the uk with an all british cast so snl is franchising across the pond the british version of snl was officially announced by UK broadcaster Sky in a press release on Thursday.

40:52The London-based series premiering in 2026 will be executive produced by Lorne Michaels, who will also continue to produce the US one as well, as well as a bunch of like UK production syndicate teams. Yeah, well, not that he can't do both, but I think in order to be like the Lorne Michaels of SNL, you have to have like a real grasp on the country and the culture. And like, I would think they would need an actual British person to be the Lorne of. They probably will have another director, but I do think he has to have his hand in at least like the initial casting and the tone and much more like of a higher up position, not like day to day on the ground.

41:27But I think in order to get it off the ground in a way that feels akin to U.S. SNL, like he needs to be involved. Yeah, I actually don't hate this idea at all. I would have thought that there was like a SNL equivalent in the UK. Yeah, I feel like every country has like an FNL. Yes, Israel's is really popular. They have like an Israeli like Saturday night skit show, sketch comedy, if you will. But this is like official SNL franchise as opposed to just being like the country sketch comedy show. I think it's a great idea, actually. I think there's a lot of crossover. Like when you think of how The Office is like the biggest show ever in the UK and then also in the US.

42:03Like I think there's a lot of like comedy overlap between the two. And I think it's a good idea. Do you think they have a lot of political? Yeah. No? Yeah. Do you not? No. I don't think they're unfunny. Like when I think of like groups of people who are not funny, the British don't come to mind. But yeah, I know I agree. Are there any British comedians that we know? Ricky Gervais. That's true. Maybe. Oh, that guy. Everybody loves. I do like him too. James something or other. He has like a million Netflix specials. Yeah, there are a bunch. I actually think this is a good idea. I'm looking at British comedians.

42:39Ricky Gervais comes to mind. This guy, this guy always, his name always comes up. What did he do? Who? Jack Whitehall. That's what I was just, that's what I was referring to. He has a bunch of comedy specials. So there's literally two people. But no, I do think that the British are funny and that they can be funny. Oh, Sasha Baron Cohen. Very funny. Well, I guess he is like a comedian. He's more of like a comedy actor. He's like a bit of everything. No, I think this is good. I like that. And then we'll get like musical performances. Maybe Little Mix will reunite. Well, I think this will be great for the British music scene.

43:14which yeah which i'm a big fan and maybe we could be seeing new artists and discovering new talent that would be amazing and now who do you get to host like the first ever we've been for as long as we've been alive snl has been around who hosted the first episode of snl like who was gonna host the first british episode harry styles so you're gonna say harry windsor and i'm like oh that's actually funny um harry windsor mount bad no i feel like maybe harry styles could be the musical performer. He would do both. I feel like they need a real comedian. Honestly, give Ricky Gervais. I know he's my answer for everything, but Ricky Gervais.

43:50Jack Whitehall. Sure. Or Sasha Barron. Yeah. I like that. We'll see how they do. You would love it. You would love it. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? If it's our fifth and final story, that's brought to you by YSL Love Shine Plumping Lip Oil Gloss. So if you're looking for a new go-to lip gloss, look no further. YSL Beauty has just come out with their new YSL Love Shine Plumping Lip Oil Gloss. It's an oil-infused plumping lip gloss that provides juicy, glossy shine and plumper, fuller-looking lips with an ultra-hydrating feel. It's infused with spicy ginger oil and hyaluronic acid.

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46:54That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com. Wayfair. Every style, every home. Thank you, Claudia. our fifth and final story a little aforementioned white lotus fallout drama white latest co-stars walton goggins and amy lou wood are sparking feud rumors after the finale so walton and amy play rick and chelsea rick and chelsea and they have sparked a few rumors with some instagram behavior several eagle-eyed fans began theorizing that there was trouble in paradise when they noticed that the actors aren't following each other on instagram anymore additionally they believe that he may have blocked Amy because her comments on previous posts have disappeared from his page which while his still appear on hers the room and then his like crazy Instagram stories medley pictures of them it was like 14 minutes long so yeah they keep posting like tributes to Rick and Chelsea and they're not tagging each other and like he very intentionally posted the entire montage to Silver Springs by Fleetwood Mac which is like a particularly devastating song like you'll never get away from the sound of a woman that loves you very telling you know was it just a fool so people thought that was also an easter egg as well there's definitely something weird going on well i feel like that's him like playing into rick and chelsea's love story and i do think that like this is the biggest moment of both of their careers people love rick and chelsea like no matter what's going on between them like they're gonna milk it on their social media Walton is like very social media literate for a 53 year old man.

48:26Correct. And he's like he has like so many dumps from White Lotus. Like he literally posts like a Gen Zer on a trip to Thailand. Like he's not going to miss the social media moment. Who would? It's good for their careers. And like everyone keeps like, you know, sharing pictures of Rick and Chelsea. They have all these behind the scenes pictures. Like they're literally acting like a couple that like just took a trip to Thailand and then passed away. Like. Yeah. so it's definitely there's definitely weirdness and where do you think the weirdness stems from I don't know because as far as I know he's in a relationship oh he is and then also a lot of people are reading into two other things so this video Walter wasn't at the premiere and then all the cast is together I know it's like I like Walter rather Walter wasn't at the premiere and there's this video the whole cast is like together except for Amy Liu and then she comes over and everybody's like so happy to see her and the actor who plays Greg just gives her kind of like a devastating hug.

49:23Like, you know, like it's just so, like, let me, like, lean on me. Like, it's so, maybe we're all looking too much into it, but it's kind of this like soul crushing hug, you know? Like, oh. Okay, the way that I hear that, like what I interpret it as like these people take the show way too seriously. And I actually feel like he thinks he's hugging like a dead girl. Like, because her story ended in tragedy and like he's hugging Chelsea. I'm so glad you brought that up because I want to stop talking about what we're talking about. I don't care anymore. And we need to talk about like how not okay people are that talk about the White Lotus.

49:58I saw officially today, this morning, I'm so glad you just reminded me, the absolute craziest take. Okay. For me, this is what somebody wrote. It was a TikTok. What was the most devastating part of White Lotus for me? As a Ukrainian, seeing three Russians get away with a crime. I'm like, oh, wow, okay. You're taking my ability to make anything about myself and like you've taken it to new levels. Like the discourse around White Lotus is really starting to piss me off. It's what I say all the time. I've actually seen this thought regurgitated. I said it first and I said it with the bear. People are, I need to say this right.

50:38There is like a trend now where if you criticize something thoughtfully or you just say you don't like it. People who do like it say that you don't get it. And it is actually quite possible to get something and still not like it. That's happened to me with the bear. That happens to people with White Lotus because now it's like, well, you don't like the White Lotus? Like you don't get it. Mike White's a genius. Like yes, Mike White is a genius and I do get it. I didn't enjoy it. By the way, I'm not saying that me. I actually did enjoy it. But like, I hate this level of, it's such a, I think people think they come off intellectual when they say, but you actually sound stupid.

51:13So explain it to me. Why is it good? explain it instead of saying you don't get it when everyone who says you don't get it like no one offers an explanation explanation just don't get it right what am i not getting explain it smart smarty pants come here yeah it's very smart aleck condescending thing to say makes them feel smart they understand something yes but it's also just like such a flawed like this is all art right art is subjective you're supposed to like stuff you're supposed to not like stuff so just to say like no it's good you just didn't get it i hate when people fucking say that yeah that's definitely one issue with the White Lotus and I think that the fans of White Lotus do get carried away and we they need to be held accountable for that but I'd like to hold the cast accountable for what they're doing too like actually thinking that they are these people and like they posting because if they're on vacation like with and it's fun and I think it's really good for like the the show and all these behind the scenes pictures but like I get sad for when the show's over no and by the way a couple of interviews of jason isaacs have come across my desk where he keeps like alluding to like some sort of drama he keeps just saying how like you know all these people live together in a foreign country for six months it was kind of like theater camp he said and you know that's going to come with its share of challenges and drama and nobody is like pushing him and asking follow-up questions as to what exactly he's referring to but he does keep alluding to something well yeah i saw a headline today and now i'll investigate it that he called um White Lotus in open prison camp.

52:37Open air prison. Yes. He. No he's referring. He's an open prison camp. You couldn't avoid one another. There are tensions and difficulties. I don't know if they spilled from on screen to off screen. Or if it would have happened anyway. There were alliances that formed and broke. Romances that formed and broke. Rick and Chelsea. Friendships that formed and broke. It's a long period of time for people to be away from their family with an open bar. And all the wildness being in Thailand allows. Yes. So he's like kind of being open with us. And nary a person is asking follow up questions. Like, hey, Jason, can you clarify what you meant here?

53:06Who are you referring to? Wow. But yeah, that does speak to like, I think that one might explain a little bit of Rick and Chelsea drama, whether it was a friendship that went south. But I think also them really when you're remote and you're this person and everyone's in character and like method acting, I think lines get blurred. And it's easy to get carried away. Yeah. Yeah. And we got to snap back to reality. Agreed. let's dive into Summer House speaking of reality. Last night's episode, Lexi has returned from her weekend away. She is like trying to work things out with Jesse. So this is where I'm bothered the most.

53:49Everything Jesse says to Lexi and then says to everyone else, I couldn't be more different. And the way that he makes these great advances with Lexi, like introducing him to her parents, and then we'll go tell Wes and his friends being like, like she forced me. Like that's not, you can't force someone to do that. So like either own it or just break up with her. It's really pissing me off like how duplicitous he's being. And I'm sure she doesn't know it at the time and I'm sure she finds out but also now watching it back is like so hurtful. He's really trying to make her look crazy and I just want to say she has not asked him to stop doing one thing that I thought was unreasonable for a girl to ask her boyfriend to stop doing.

54:23I agree. He acts so inappropriate. Like everything he does is inappropriate. Everything. Everything he does is inappropriate which is why he's a lost cause in this relationship. There's nothing that she could say, no behavior. She could exhibit, be chill enough that will make this relationship work because he's just - And she's never claimed to be chill. She's actually been very upfront. Like, hi, I'm a really kind of like possessive jealous person. No, but it's not even like, oh, if she did it this way or she did it that way that this relationship could work. It won't work because he's not ready and he doesn't respect her enough to stop doing all of these things.

54:54And I don't even think it will take a girl to change him. Like something has to change within himself or it just doesn't you know and this is just who he is and he can just that's fine this playboy for his life um but yeah I don't think anything she's said or done is crazy he met her family so when his family's in town like she should meet them she loves him they're together all the time she like really really likes him yes it's fast but it's it's not weird yeah especially when your families don't live in the place where you live and if they happen to be coming to town they might not come again for six months and like we are dating like yeah maybe you should meet them just to like know who I'm seeing I think it's a nice thing but of course he wasn't ready for that it does lead her on like Wes said like Wes was like I introduced Sarah to my family because like yeah that's fun I love I like you I like them let's all have fun yes he didn't that was a really good comparison he didn't realize what it would mean to her you know the implications yeah so you have to be careful with stuff like that especially when you know in your heart you're not serious about someone.

55:51I had forgotten that he like took her home and it like meant so much. And I feel like Lexi's a really nice girl. I think also she's a lot younger than everybody. And there's like a pre-established dynamic. They're all friends already. They're all like successful reality stars. She's new here. So when she comes back and she like wants to, they're all talking outside about like the Sierra thing. She's like so circling the drain and she's not even, she's trying really not to be like accusatory, even though like she has every right to be upset with Sierra and like say something. And the conversation like sort of goes nowhere and falls flat.

56:19And Like I actually felt really awkward because she had to bring it up, but she wasn't going to bring it up in a way that was like, Sierra, like I'm mad at you. But can I get some clarification? And I actually like that Paige is the first one who's like, I've never seen Sierra and Jessie as brother, sister. Like they've always had this like weird flirty relationship. So we need to stop saying that. Yeah. Also, when people say that about boy girl friendships, it bothers me because you're not brother, sister. And like you could have sex and we're not going to call it incest. So that's not a thing.

56:46but it is a really convenient excuse for like guys being close with girls and girls and guys when like you feel like they shouldn't be friends you say we're brother sister but like you are not like you don't share DNA you could happily run off into the sunset and then Wes bringing up like the parallels between him and Sierra like it actually it made me even more upset for Lexi being like you know what that's like Sierra that happened to you last year and like you were so hurt by it and so upset by it and you had every right to be so now you see a girl going through exactly what you're going through and you're not only not helping you're kind of hurting the situation now everyone's responsible for their own actions like jesse is the worst i cannot stress that enough i just have really low expectations for jesse and i have really high expectations for i feel like she's such a girl's girl she's like so um she like hates like she loves to like clown on toxic men and so i just would have expected different behavior from her i have high standards for her and i definitely hold them to different standards which is wrong yeah no one's really telling lexi the truth what happened like what happened whether they think it was inappropriate And then I also feel like when they were saying how Jesse and Lexi have already had an argument already made up and it's only been a month.

57:47And like, why is that even a thing at a month? It's like, and they're saying that to Jesse, like, that's crazy that you're already like fighting. Maybe it seemed like they're fighting because of Lexi. But it's because of what you did. Like, does anyone want to say to Jesse, like, you are the reason why your relationship is off to a rough start. Like, this girl is all in on you. What I think she's asking for, stop following. She's not even saying unfollow all girls. She's saying stop following new girls. like that isn't crazy no I'm so team Lexi and like I think that it's nice to see somebody like have really high standards and like all out like right out of the gate being like here are my boundaries here is what I like require from a boyfriend I think it's nice to see and the fact that like it's being made seem like she's so unreasonable I don't think so at all I think like we should be empowering young women to have really high standards and real uh boundaries and when they said she was so young and then they said she's 26 I don't think 26 is that young me neither I thought she was 21 I thought we're like 23 that's still like nothing serious like I feel like I moved at a pretty average pace in life um I met like Zach like not even that young and I got married at 26 and I didn't feel like I was super early for that at all so like her being she's not that young she's not that young I think when you're 26 like you have your head pretty much screwed on straight maybe you're not the level of maturity you'll be at like 30 and 35 but you don't reach those levels of maturity also until you do certain things and that like forces you to become more mature so I don't I didn't think that was a super strong argument I think at 26 like you're ready to settle down and she is and I like how open she is about how she feels and on the one hand like she should have played it a little differently right she shouldn't have like given into him the first week and like she should have made him work harder for it I don't think would have changed their outcome which I don't think they're together because he's not ready for a relationship but like in hindsight like you could say that that's why you know she should have like dangled the carrot a little bit more but one like that's what sierra did with west and it ended the same way didn't work and two i really like that lexi's like i'm not gonna play games if i like someone i'm gonna tell them and i'm not gonna regret falling in love really fast because that's how i am and it makes me not worried about her no i'm not worried about her either especially seeing her watch robin's live like she's fine she's healed she's moved on yeah now i want to talk about something that I feel like you and I have been waiting so long for and we got a window into last night because I was shocked to see Lindsay driving out to the Hamptons with Paige and then Paige just sort of talking to camera about like the journey she's been on with Lindsay and how she finally like now can understand Lindsay and really like likes her for who she is and I'm so glad these two have laid down their arms I think Lindsay's pretty much laid down her arms with everybody except for Carl and everybody's really appreciating Lindsay in this phase that she in which is that she's in which is nice because I feel like I've liked Lindsay for a while and I love to see them getting together.

1:00:30It was a tough watch at Shabbat dinner to see like Lindsay bringing up like her big moment and she was brutally rebuffed. And we knew last week because Lil posted on Instagram screenshots. So I've known that like this hill she's about to die on is like not worth it. So it was kind of like watching a car crash in slow motion. Yes, but you know what? On that one, I'm going to give her a pregnancy pass. By the way, I don't even need to give her a pregnancy pass. I'm just giving her a pass because I like her. I'm just giving her a pass that I like her, but like I do think she's allotted like a couple pregnancy passes.

1:00:56is like she said in the car with Paige, she's so hormonal. If you're on the receiving end of her rage, watch out. So pregnancy passed for that. And I'm not going to clown on her. And it was actually like a really funny exchange. And you know what? She gave Carl a nice moment. Like he looked good. Yeah. And I was going to say to his credit, he could have been a way bigger dick and been like, tell you. They had to drag him to get his phone. I would have thought that there was something bad on his phone with how slow he was walking and then he fell down the stairs. um so yes i agree she actually gave him a moment to look like a real gentleman and he and he did and then when he was explaining that like this particular anniversary of his brother's death was difficult because he also was like celebrating it for the first time without lindsey as like a friend or a support a partner um and she was kind of the only one who knew why he was upset that morning because the date obviously like resonated with her i actually felt really sad for him um because like grief is really hard but then also like to lose a system of support yeah that's also really sad like alone and not alone in distractions not have someone who's there whose sole job is to cheer you up that day I felt warm towards him and I feel like even on that day Lindsay might could have like maybe she did say something to him could have said something like I hate you but I have love for you today like I'm you know what I that's the sort of thing where it's like it doesn't matter there are things in life where like it doesn't matter what happened we can lay down our arms for a moment and like we're two human beings and like we used to love each other and no matter what happens between us like this is a terrible thing that happened and I am here for you in this capacity and I feel like that she didn't say it but I feel like that's how she feels you know I agree I feel like she's like laying off of him this weekend well except besides for the night before also I think that like Imrule really was like the worst possible person to sit next to Carl in that moment when Wes came out he just thought they were like bawling when Wes came out and gave him a hug I was like oh yeah that's what you're supposed to do thank you lord no when and like it's such a tough thing and Imrule was like oh I'm sorry like do you want to be alone which is a really respectful question um they're just not bros like that you know and and I feel like Imrule's maybe not the type of guy to like cry you know I feel like Wes and Jesse would start crying like you know yeah I I actually felt weird like I felt I just I felt bad for Carl and I felt bad for Imrule like they were just the wrong people wrong time yeah I agree oh hello oh my god you did scare me who's that oh the mailman do you mind just popping it on the table you need me to sign no that's not for me sorry thanks so much no you're good my heart just stopped are you okay no i will say i did recognize his voice he's like the the mailman here and i've gotten to know him a little bit I'm just lovely lovely lovely man but the door opening when you're recording is right I didn't hear the door that's why so I just heard hello my heart just stopped oh my god okay do you need a minute I'm sorry that happened you're handling it really well yeah I feel like I actually usually you're like I know I know but honestly I can't like scream like that it hurts my stomach yeah yeah that was so crazy I need to re-watch the footage because I think I actually handled that like a real adult you did you would never know Jackie I'm freaking out like literally shaking she's growing up you guys wearing her emotions on the inside do you think he was like listening to our summer house recap I think he was I think he was sat for it I think he's I think he's now wondering what we thought about the conversation with Sierra and Paige at the DJ event oh so I'm actually glad you brought that up because I feel like and this has been like a slow realization through every episode like Like these two were so headed for breakup because, you know, sometimes you'll watch a couple's fight or even Paige and Craig.

1:04:37Like they've had like tough conversations over the course of the last couple of years. Summer House, Southern Charm. But you know that they're together. So it's like they work it through. They've never said anything during those fights that they couldn't come back from. But some of the stuff Paige is saying is so final, right? Like, is this your person? I don't know. No, Paige had to break up with him before the season aired because he could never see this and then turn to her and be like, what? So I think she literally broke up with him smack in between the end of summer and when the season was airing.

1:05:02And I think she knew there was a countdown because the things that she was saying on the show, it's like, yeah, I wonder what we would think if they hadn't broken up yet. And it reminds me really of Kyle and Amanda, the season that they got married. And I feel like all the conversations that were had, like, how are these people still together? right like they were having such like devastating conversations that this is like the bad marriage bad idea run run run but we know watching it that they're already married in real life right so like you can so it's kind of a relief to watch you can see but like people do work things out and couples have issues and you choose to stay together and I guess if you're a good reality show you say what's on your heart and you know you deal with the consequences whenever um but we can see the wheels falling off uh and their relationship not being exactly like what it's been in the past and what we thought it was at that time and I feel like didn't he even go to some of her shows didn't he go on stage at some shows no no not on stage no I feel like I remember seeing him on stage at shows and now just like realizing that this this tour really was like a big thing for them and it will seriously always crack me up how they talk about Craig like he is broken and jobless when she definitely makes like millions more than him but I still think he makes millions and she's right if she were to stop working completely like they wouldn't be able to live at the same level like having two places and jet setting and you know designer this that whatever um but you know he still makes a living and it's like no and it's actually it's very hard for men in this industry to do super well and I think in terms of reality star influencers Craig's probably doing it the best.

1:06:44He's built a real business. Like his shit sells in Kroger. He has standalone stores all over the country. Like he's probably the most successful male reality star that I can think of because you don't get to do the fun brand deals, hair and makeup, Amazon. Like there's so many opportunities for women. And when you crush it as much as Paige is the best at being a woman, influencer, reality star. And Craig is really the best at being a man, influencer, reality star. But the two, like the best at men. There's a gender pay gap. It's kind of how they say like Serena Williams is the greatest female athlete of all time, but like she would lose to Roger Federer.

1:07:17Like who's not even the greatest male athlete of all time. Yeah. And that's a gender biological gap. And there is a gender biological gap in the reality star influencing industry. Yeah, there is. But it just like really makes me laugh that they talk about Craig. Like that went on his show. He's homeless. He's the big man on campus. Yeah. And so, yeah, I do. I see why they broke up. And I think that just the gap between them just got bigger and bigger and bigger. And I actually think that like it's good that they broke up. Yeah. Like I was devastated when I found out. And Craig probably wouldn't be happy living in New York City, raising kids in New York City.

1:07:53His wife is on tour and he's what stay at home dad. And he probably would have to put all of his passions on the back. Like it just there's no future for them. So even though they get along well and they're chicken and they laugh. And I'm devastated. Like I really am. But they're making it palatable watching this. Oh, these two people should not have been together. And you're right, like comparing it to Amanda and Kyle, like it's nice to see like the wheels coming off of a relationship and like it's okay. Like they broke up and it's fine. Yeah. Whereas like Amanda and Kyle got married and then we had two more seasons of like seriously what appeared to be like one of the worst marriages ever.

1:08:28Like your husband's out till three in the morning. You're depressed. You're having health issues. Your husband doesn't help you. Like that was hard to watch. So at least Paige doesn't have to go through. Whatever her version of that would have been. Yeah. So that's the episode. Yeah, Jesse Solomon. I'm really in a pickle with Jesse Solomon. Like, to go and do what he did with Shabbat, like, there's nothing you can do to make me dislike you. Yet I dislike you so much because your behavior is so abhorrent. When he was in bed with Lex, he's still singing the prayers from Shabbat. Like, I love him.

1:08:58I love him. And Ben came in when we were watching and he was doing the prayers. And Ben started singing along with him. He's like, wait, he's really Jewish. And he had a real tune. Yep. And the way he described Shabbat, I feel like was a very good description. It was really beautiful to see. He needs a stern talking to. Like, honestly, I think we need to talk. We need to have him on the show and say, what are you doing? We need to call his mother. I know. Like, that's what we need to do. I know. He's really pissing me off. He has a lot of potential. Oh, my gosh. What a guy. And the thing is, I think that he's so charming, right?

1:09:33I think he's, like, devastatingly handsome and charming. And I think that he like dazzles all the girls in the house. Like he gives them all a lot of attention. And I think they all like it in a non, you know, a sexy way. Like Amanda's obviously married, but I think she like likes being seen. I think they all do. He makes everyone feel really special. He's just that type of guy. So I can almost understand why they're all always just like telling him what he wants to hear. Because he's dazzling. Yeah. But imagine if he used his powers for good. Yeah. If he was a one woman man. Settle down. make an honest woman a Jewish wife out of Lexi yeah no but I actually Solomon I know Lexi Solomon like we went to camp together I would be happy if he ends up with Lexi but like I I've moved on for Lexi Lexi and Craig no me too me too it's actually not the right man for her but I also think it was a great entry storyline for her to be like a full-time cast mate now like I don't know what her story would have been but she's literally the biggest thing that we're talking about this season and she's the new girl I'm invested in her for sure I want her back like and that's hard to This is a hard group to crack when you're like kind of an outsider.

1:10:34Yeah. No, she's a great cast. Yeah. So that's the Summer House recap. That's our show. I have to like seriously go to the bathroom and change my underwear because I crapped my pants when the mailman came in. But that's our show, you guys. Thank you so much for listening to The Toast on Monday morning show where we deliver the fast five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcasts can be found. So that's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, iHeartRadio, CastBox, all the places where I listen to podcasts.

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