Jobbing Our Love: Wednesday, October 15th, 2025

0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the terst happy worst hey jerse hey nurse happy worst day um yeah even though it's so not i know what is the worst day have we ever decided monday of course it's monday yeah it is but jackie when you love your job and you job your love every day is the burst day oh it's a birthday to work with your beautiful sister every day is the birthday. Every day is birthday. Monday, Tuesday, Thursday. How are you doing? Preggylicious? I'm good. Thank you. Just like post it up. I'm in a comfy position. Like I don't think I'm going to move for the whole show. Yeah. But then like being in a comfy position is a blessing and a curse because you don't move.

1:10And then when you have to move, it's like and like you're like an ice sculpture. Like you literally cannot you're frozen. Yeah. And Bruto's not here. He does take up half the chair which is really crazy just like he takes up half the bed he's such a crazy individual that bruto um he's getting self-indulged he's getting groomed right now so tomorrow he'll be back looking handsome bringing his best to the show um but he did take a personal day for self care speaking of bruto i have just like a small personal update okay scary like when you phrase it that way yeah because you never know what koji's doing i kind of miss romeo like me and men were looking at pictures of him last night that's how you know I'm hating LA like I really miss my dog oh so today we hate LA yeah it's just like yesterday we were tolerating it yeah

2:02I just hate to be so negative you know I feel like when you and I actually really believe that even though like my joke is that like I'm a negative queen I feel like when you have like a negative mindset it really affects your reality like you see in the world what is in your mind like you're what now you're talking like a true podcaster no I know job your love love your job LA has gotten to her the dear media offices have gotten to her see I felt this way like when I was postpartum too because it's so easy to like slip into being negative like I'm tired but then you like start to see the world through like your hater-a-ter eyes and I really generally try to be like a positive person even though like I joke all the time that I'm so negative um and you know I live to complain but once I slip into like hating something I can't get out like so I have to like rise above I'd stay above water and I'm slipping you know what you should do I don't know what your plans are today but you should go to the ocean I should go to the ocean you love the ocean you're obviously a water sign um low-key so am I but let's that's inconvenient that's an inconvenient truth because I'm not and that's what Al Gore was talking about when he made that movie Jackie O being a water sign though not that's just inconvenient though not really liking swimming not really liking you do you have a pool how many times have you been in your own pool twice a couple times but I'm always like pregnant and you know I don't like to swim when I'm pregnant so I can't another inconvenient truth another inconvenient truth but no I think that you should head to the Pacific what about a little Nobu Malibu I think you need to like touch sand and I think that's I think I need to touch sand right I think that's like one of the great assets of California like is the Pacific and the weather and just like the sun in your hair I think you need to rent a convertible and drive down the PCH like I think that's what you need I feel like you're too much in tinsel town and you need to get to like tinsel burb tinsel adjacent tinsel coast tinselville so do with that amazing advice what you will that's really good advice I'm gonna pack a bathing suit oh my gosh that's so not koji so not water sign of me but i did pack two for ruby looks like you're skinny dipping uh it'll be a treat for my fellow beach goers down in the boo you should really rent a convertible and drive down the highway like ruby will love it yeah a hundred percent i wonder what each kid's can go in a convertible like you can't put a car seat in a convertible like you could but that's crazy that's crazy my baby would be fine oh well yeah because he loves hollywood and he's so taken with his town and he never wants to go home plot twist no he's he is literally his father loving it living it up that is hysterical and ben is even more like crazy than ever actually i jackie is gonna eventually go on maternity leave but i did want to do an episode i told jackie today i'm like if you're feeling like tired ben is dying to get on the podcast and i'm dying to get him on the podcast to like really we're having two completely different experiences here oh that is hysterical okay yeah maybe tomorrow you know no can do yeah if you just feel like a little tired i'm feeling a little out of pocket i know someone who's got the itch for fame but he's been is literally 50 feet from stardom that is really hysterical one of my favorite tropes about lish yeah me too have any opportunities that come his way since he's been in los angeles well just like the good guys is thriving right right um they ben was actually telling me i won't spoil it which means that it's time to go home correct once the good guys are doing better than us like we're being delayed once again better than us it's time for us to go home yeah or maybe that's why i feel so unbalanced yeah it's like maybe i'm not the most successful podcaster in my house don't even say that claudia i know um they did score a huge interview yesterday ben was telling me all about it i forgot to tell you incredibly juicy oh let's play guess who but you will I know you won't ultimately tell me no no I think Ben might have posted who it was on his Instagram let me just triple check before I blow up their spot you know man or woman man mustache I feel like it just depends on the day okay TV or film no I would say no mustache TV John Samos oh yeah Josh posted it oh okay yeah And he came with some piping hot tea.

6:21Regarding whomst? Again, I don't know if I can or should spoil it, but regarding one of his famous friends. Okay. He's going through something right now. Something that we know about? Yeah. I would just have to rack my brain of the full house. He's peeling the curtain back. Okay. And that's all I'll say. Okay. That's a really good teaser. Like, free promo for the good guys. Cool. Once again, how do we always get here? We're like, we're doomed. Do they talk about us? Never. As much as we talk about them. We're intent on destroying them while also lifting them up. I know, but that's what it means to be a hater, though.

6:57Like, you're actually a fan. Us and the good guys. Like, the more we talk about them, the more shine we give them, like, the more air and oxygen, and they just thrive. That's like a hater. Live for it. I understand my haters more than ever. Thank you to my haters.

7:22Today is Wednesday, which normally would mean a bussin' down Dancing with the Stars recap. But let me tell you another thing I'm hating about L.A. We watch it late. So it airs. They tape it at 5 p.m. Pacific time here. It airs for you at 8, but then it airs for us three hours later. So no thanks. At 8? I found out. Yeah. So first of all, 8 o 'clock for me. I was literally asleep by 8.15. Oh, I was wondering why like you weren't live watching. But I guess even if you were like ready to watch Dancing with the Stars when I was, you don't get it. I couldn't. Unless what? I'm going to download a VPN.

7:56Like, I don't know. I guess you have to go. You're going to have to go to a taping. And then I got a spoiler that like nobody got sent home. Spoiler alert. So I'm sorry. I was like, OK, I'm not staying up late to watch nobody go home. I'll watch the dances on TikTok. Well, we're going to recap it in the fifth and final story. I'm going to let you know what you missed. It was kind of a clusterfuck. um I don't know if that makes me like Scrooge that I wasn't so emotionally affected there were some dances and like some tributes that were really beautiful but like every time there were three people dancing on the screen like it felt weird yeah because dancing is very much like a two-person thing like and and every single there was all these different combos like Elaine and Chessie and Alan so it's like two girls and a guy and it was fucking weird then there was um Whitney and her husband and Mark fucking weird like every way that you sliced it I am loving like everybody's emotional tributes I watched Jen Affleck's like everybody's made like a montage for their TikTok I was sobbing watching Jen Affleck talking about how she just like needs her mom so much in the videos of her like giving birth while her mom was giving her like a hug so cute and Whitney also like making all these emo things for um what's his name Connor and Alex Earl and her little sister those are the three that I was deeply moved by the little sis was adorable and one of the better ways to do the tribute oh I have to let you know what they did with Mr.

9:13Feeney oh they wheeled him on to the ballroom floor in a sense but you'll have to wait till our fifth and final story oh okay what did things Mr. Feeney did you'll have to wait and see you're so Julianne Hough let's get your scores after the break let's get your scores dancers dancers I love your scores dancers and your favorite girl he was a guest judge who Kim Herjavec Kim Herjavec very interesting how do I feel I haven't thought about Kim Herjavec in a while so let me just recalibrate because the last time I heard Kim Herjavec I wasn't obsessed with the fact that Robert Herjavec left his wife of like 100 years to marry his dance partner but now they have like twins and they had a baby so like I think I have to move on right it's like yeah she was looking very beautiful and giving like really nice commentary okay it was running me is it a story about TJ and Amy getting engaged we don't have to make it a story but now that they're engaged like I think we all have to move on from how they got the thing is I don't know why it never really bothered me like what they had done and like I'm glad that they got engaged and they're thriving and like good keep going that's what you have to do you have no other choice but like I can't remember what the circumstances were that led me to like not really feel like so negative about their situation because they had both got huge professional ramifications for something that happened in their personal life and I remember when we were talking about it we were just like okay well it's terrible that they both like cheated on their partners but like what does that have to do with gma's third hour yeah and now gma's got no third hour big news story and i was like okay but again like these people being just like ethically wrong how is that relevant here yeah it just it yeah i don't know i think that's why we ended up being like kind of soft on them for sure and i feel good about that like they're super happy and and now their partners are together my favorite trope the shania twain effect my favorite trope that's a good trope i love your trope scorned lovers yeah it's like okay so it's like enemies to lovers um what what is this one called like scorned scorned lovers i like it or wife swap tessa bailey get on it did you see oh by the way are we talking about wendy osefo today no okay because like What are we talking about?

11:43I don't know. Honestly, the stories are really random. Well, it's fine because I had said a couple of days ago, like I was just waiting for like a Bravo account to break it all down for me. And there have been several. I am fully caught up on what Wendy Osefo did. And it's really bad and really stupid. Like I feel like Wendy, she was like, she's a good housewife. But I think her thing is like that she's smart, right? She has a lot of degrees. Her and her husband combined have like six or seven degrees between them. She's always just sort of like some women stunt, like their wealth, their fashion she stunts her education and her she's a doctor right she goes on tv she's just like kind of takes like a uh an intellectual high ground for sure and for her to have been so stupid oh and by the way her husband's a fucking lawyer oh my god like i could have committed a better crime they left so much evidence in writing via email be like hey when we put this fraud together should we take this ring and have it like literally just they made it so easy for the police They basically went on vacation and claimed that they were robbed.

12:44And what was missing from the house was items they had returned to stores years ago. Items that they actually still had in possession. And then Wendy would go out like a week later wearing the items that she claimed were stolen and documenting it all on social media. Like seriously, the least effective. She was wearing stuff on the show that she said was stolen. Upwards of like$400 ,000. That's what they claimed that insurance gave them. Oh, and they had multiple claims out to like different insurance companies. Not saying that like, you know, the other one filled the claim. So it's insurance fraud.

13:12And it's really serious, actually. So it's really bad. There's so much evidence. I saw a clip of her on a podcast talking about the robbery. Kiddos. Yeah. Was that like a red flag for everyone? Because when I saw it, I haven't seen like other people talk about that clip. And the thing is, it's so unfortunate because I would never watch a clip like that at the time and be like, this person's lying. Right. Right. And I don't want to ever be that sort of person that like, here's someone tell a really traumatic story and question their story. Right. But now watching it back. This clip is resurfacing of an interview she did on like a Bravo podcast right after the robbery.

13:50And they're talking about housewives. And then the host is just like, and by the way, like this robbery, like, are you okay? What happened? And she was like, yeah, I mean, you know, we weren't there. We were on vacation with the kiddos. And the way she said kiddos, it's like, you're lying. You're lying. Nobody thought it at the time. And like now it's an extremely sinister clip. 1 ,000%. The way she said kiddos when talking about it. With kiddos? Was so weird. And the whole thing was so weird. But now I could say it as like, oh, I could see you're lying. I would have never fucking known. I would have never known.

14:20I would have been like, that is so sad. That is so upsetting. Yeah. But you know what? I'm a believer. And I like that about me. I agree. don't change that about yourself like I just to become someone who just like doubts and doubt is cynical and whenever someone like especially with robberies weirdly some there's always someone like they're lying I'm like you're the worst person it's so true and I and that's why I feel like you know all roads do lead back to Jussie Smollett oh because nobody wanted to be the first person to be like is he lying because it was such a crazy thing and so that's why I think when everybody I don't know who the first person to like cast out was but everybody after that was like yeah you know what I was thinking the same thing I would never especially because Wendy was just like she was just an upstanding citizen right like that was like her thing almost like like morality police but I feel like that's always how it is you know it's like the person it's like the Ellen yeah person preaching kindness is like beating people up backstage no it's that's really such a crazy story so it isn't a crazy saga it's not just like a a little blip I do feel like they might go to jail and it's not just like three hundred dollars no it's upwards of 400 grand in items like claiming that they were stolen and then getting insurance to reimburse for them but they were not stolen they were either like hidden under her mattress or returned to stores like literally paper trail after paper trail not smart not smart from the doctor wendy oseffa right right Right.

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One, Nicola and Brooklyn Pelts have grown apart from Selena Gomez. as they say relationships evolve but I also want to talk about the Victoria documentary because I'm pretty sure you watched I did so let's talk about this and then we'll talk about that because reports of a feud between Selina and Nicola and Brooklyn Peltz-Beckham are untrue and insider tells people they said there's no bad blood where relationships evolve and it's true they're not as close as they once were but there wasn't any one thing that happened uh the lie detector determined that that was a lie yes agreed you don't like go from having like throuple vacations on yachts to not being invited to someone's wedding within a year and honestly the lie detector has also determined that like Nicola and Brooklyn seem like the toxic ones because like everyone around them is now like beefing but Koji that's what I think too because I was gonna say like who's the problem here but like Selena doesn't talk to her kidney donor yeah her own kidney donor so in this particular situation it's hard to know who's the toxic one um or maybe like a bunch of toxic people got together but yeah the kidney donor if we could take that out for one second selena does have like a lot of really long-term friends you know you saw them in her documentary she's had like the same people around her for a really long time so i don't think i think we could say a lot about leaner but i don't think i would say she's like a bad friend and that she has like fleeting friendships okay demi okay but those were like the disney years we can't i know and you could do that to anyone like people like go through like like are close with someone one day right and then not at another day but this is this was very like hot and fast and I definitely think that it is weird to at least like you could don't always have to be so close and sometimes you're with someone like for a season we're both liking the same things we're both traveling we like to do the same and that might peter out naturally yep priorities change but to not invite them to your wedding is weird red flag so I'm glad that like someone's circling back on this because I feel like we had said like let's see if they're they go to her wedding but we didn't follow up with it yeah well here is us following up they did not go and it was a big wedding again I think also a lot of times when celebrities get married you can say like it was a really intimate no it was like a big affair and they weren't there and they hate each other and it does beg the question like of now making me think they're the problem Brooklyn and Nicola I had thought that anyways so this only like confirms it um I did watch the Victoria documentary and it sucks because like I'm just comparing it to the David documentary and I feel like they put their whole family story in the David documentary so his was so much better not because he has a more interesting life but because their family life was documented that was the most interesting part I didn't give a shit about what happened to him in soccer like it was him in the media and him and posh and him having babies and so their wedding with the purple dresses like I learned about all that from his documentary and they didn't want to repeat themselves so they didn't and um while the story of her fashion business like was compelling yeah no it wasn't a fantastic documentary I enjoyed myself watching it I think she's really fascinating and she's lovely to watch and all these like pop culture tidbits were really fun but it left me with even more questions about Victoria like I understand they didn't want to talk about like Madrid again and the affair again like these big things that happened to her that we saw through David's documentary but like why didn't they talk about why the Spice Girls broke up like yeah yeah right and also they didn't even say like Jerry left and then we kept doing it like it wasn't a documentary about Victoria's life because they jumped over these huge moments and even the fact that she has four children like and she was doing that like when she was a pop star and a wag and in the public eye and having a fashion brand and like they just sort of like through that she was like oh I was breastfeeding Harper and I did my collection like I was just like I want to know more about everything that you're just sort of glazing over and it really was just an advertisement for her brand and it was a beautiful one at that yes it was an advertisement for the brand but I think it was also like trying to shift the narrative I don't know how like the fashion space especially like in Europe how they perceive her but I don't think she gets taken seriously or as seriously as she wants to as like an official like house and so I think the documentary's goal was to just like prop her up in that industry and like make everybody see her how she wants to be seen and like I personally don't care like that's not what it's just like the fact that she has a brand is like a fun fact about her it's not the whole thing but to me today like her brand seems so legit and so serious before the documentary I actually felt like the documentary was made for like you know the commercial lay people like us to be like oh Victoria has this like 360 brand she has beauty she has perfume like oh I might want to buy a shirt that's a nice thing I felt like it was actually meant for the common people because she has what she wants in the fashion industry which is immense respect like we were Anna Wintour.

25:29Anna Wintour's in the documentary. She was, her name was thrown around, even if it was just by one person and me for editor-in-chief of Vogue. Like she has reached that level. Watching her journey and watching her start from being like, I guess this quote unquote like tacky wag to then like refining her style. I didn't even know that that's how people felt about her at the time because I was like 10. That was really interesting to watch like what she's overcome. watching how she put David in like millions of dollars of debt I had no idea about that either there were two moments of like real honesty and I really appreciated the transparency in her just like saying like even though it's their money but yes he was the one and him talking about how like when they met like she was the rich one she was one who bought that house for them and she was one who paid for the wedding and she was one who did everything because he was this little soccer star and then of course things changed and she he's I think they said like 39 million dollars in debt for her fashion brand that was like very honest and I didn't expect them to be so open about the numbers and then also she was really honest about like her phase with like anorexia and how like it was just the only thing she could control and kind of like a stereotypical story of a woman in media um and how she overcame that so I wasn't expecting her to address either of those things as head-on as she did and so that was compelling but overall I think the documentary fell flat for me even though I enjoyed it immensely like Eva Longoria yeah and then keep cutting back to like this big fashion show in Paris it's just like really and that seems really stressful right like yeah that you rented a castle on the outskirts of town and all these big people are coming and it won't stop raining and like the models and the mud um

27:08stressful Kim there's people that are dying like like you really couldn't go and it was just this whole big production like I just don't but that's just like I'm not a fashion person I don't get the significance and from my perch like I remember some of her more recent shows because she did start like her business back up again the one that like Kim went to remember when Kim was like super late um so I'm like why do you have to make it so hard why do you have to be in a castle outside like in elements that you can't control in a venue that's never hosted a fashion show before like how much is this costing and I also appreciated how she was very honest about the fact that when she was like running her business into debt like the expenses were insane because they didn't have to be they didn't have to lose all that money yeah but it was just they couldn't stop like it was a snowball down the hill also not tom ford being in the documentary like she really did have a plus not a spice girl though she didn't want to get into that yeah i'm sorry i need to understand Like your whole life is theater.

28:09Then you get the Spice Girls. And she talks about the Spice Girls only positively. Yep. Then we broke up and I had an identity. Why did you break up? Like I don't understand. I still don't understand. We were Spice Girls fans at the time. Yeah, there were big holes in the documentary. And I just feel like she came into it with like a clear goal. I think they saw a lot of success from the David documentary. Like all their businesses just sort of rising. Their celebrity rising everything. And so I think she wanted to like target that. as she should business but when they started talking about her beauty and then showing her instagram stories like of her being so real and honest about makeup like it was giving infomercial yeah it wasn't infomercial which i will accept a degree of infomercial when i watch kardashians when i want everyone's got business like do your business but you you need to it needs to be balanced and i feel like and some people don't have the other thing the the stuff with which to balance it they are all their business and you know everything else is either not interesting or just not happening for them she has such an interesting life and I just felt like they were keeping stuff from us I don't know why yeah the best part was her making a TikTok with Harper and I don't even what's funny is like of course Nicola and Brooklyn were not in it they were not addressed oh well yes they were when at the show they she said my kids are here the Brooklyn and Nicola and then they cut to like them just like standing and taking a photo they were at that friends show yes oh so i guess the beef hadn't even started by then or they were just still like no they i think they were still good because i think everything went south with like the 50th birthday party yes david at the end was talking about how he's going to be turning 50 so maybe things were still got it good or they were just like fine yeah that's a mutually beneficial like nicola to be front row at paris fashion week is very good for her for victoria having these two young hot things at her show front row like it's a mutually beneficial event I could see them both wanting to go but what I was going to say is even if they were already beefing it's not like I was looking for that from the documentary like you don't have to get your dirty underwear of course of course like I don't need to see your dirty underwear some things can be kept private but like why did Spice Girls break up and literally then what happened you know yeah so that's the latest with the Beckhams our next story a little tv news that I'm actually kind of obsessed with with taisha adams and tyler cameron will judge hgtv's bachelor mansion renovation show that will be a competition show for renovating the bachelor mansion and the competitors are former bachelor contestants and it's hosted by jesse palm oh yeah and the contestants are out and so this is called wait so how how is taisha and tyler involved they're the judges they're the judges jesse is the host yes got it and then over six episodes they will be joined by surprise uh surprise guest judges to help judge the contestants renovation skills on the iconic reality tv site so the guest judges will be contestants are yes and we'll get into the former okay we'll get into the contestants from all the shows bachelor bachelorette bachelor in paradise right of course golden bachelor and golden bachelorette okay um and the guest judges will also be from those shows okay while they renovate the bachelor mansion i don't know how like 12 people get a chance to renovate one place maybe there's like challenges on different corners of the house I don't know that's like it's gonna make for a really messy disjointed house but also like the lore of the bachelor mansion is that it's always been owned by someone there's like a family who owns it and like makes lots of money they just rent it out but now with the renovations I feel like the network had to have bought it how do you renovate a house that you're renting I don't know I hope at this point that they bought it but they've just bought it right they said that like when they found out that the property needed a renovation that they you know just had to bring it to hgtv and bachelor nation well we have been really um like hard on the bachelor franchise because in terms of like reality tv they were the biggest and the baddest and they've so fallen behind all the streamers and they're so irrelevant in the real like mix of reality tv but it does feel like somebody like got poached from like netflix or hulu and now works at abc and they're actually stepping their pussy up like taylor frankie paul the golden bachelor franchises have been really good now this is this is the exact type of shit we need like it's giving you know perfect sex on the beach couple whatever it's called yeah alumni show melting pot yes exactly but in a way that works um it's also airing on hgtv so it's like kind of perfect here are the contestants and i don't know why it's these contestants and if they have any construction or design background so i would hope so dean bell we all know dean deanie babies he definitely doesn't do construction he lives in a van yeah he doesn't even have home let alone right you can't build home if you don't have one I do think by now like him and Caitlin have a home yeah she was at Dancing with the Stars last night was she yeah I don't know Nick Vile was there and Natalie was there and Caitlin they were all like in the front row I do think it used to be like you would come as like a friend of a contestant but now it's sort of like a red carpet like a fair yeah it's just a fun thing to do but also like uh Dylan was just on Vile Files I think maybe him oh yes yes yes yes that's also true um Jill Chen is the next contestant bachelor season 26 and I don't think I think she's after my time okay I just want to say producer in my ear letting me know Dean does do construction he like renovates his own house and everything okay does Jill Chen do production I'm not sure but like I think it's safe to assume that all the contestants do okay Noah Erb he was bachelor at season 16 I forget who that is they need to do the lead's name no he was with Abigail he was the lead no no no no yeah he won I mean sorry he's married to Abigail yeah that's how I know him from paradise they're really cute she comes up on my tiktok a lot yeah Alicia Gupta the bachelor season 29 that's so after my time Tammy Lee the bachelor season 24 I forget who the bachelor was but I remember Tammy and she was on bachelor in paradise she was starting stuff she's a stuff starter for sure uh Sandra Mason golden bachelor season one okay Sandra get in there Sam McKinney bachelorette season 21 passed our time yeah Brendan Murray bachelorette season 16 yeah I know this face he was he's in from our time Courtney Robertson From Bachelor season 16, she won her season.

34:40You know, she was like the most, she was like the villain of her season. And she won. He looks like Josh Groban. I can't remember his name. They're not together anymore. Oh, of course. Courtney Robertson. Who was the man? Yeah, this guy. He does look like Ben Flodgik. And he does look like Josh Groban. That's an amazing call. So like, does she wear construction? um she or interior design she must and this is her first coming back to the franchise since ben flagenk season well these bitches like don't know what it was like you know everybody thinks like reality tv now not to be such a grandma but like there was a time ben flagenk like that's all i'll say yeah yeah uh oh our favorite contestant that we've never watched jeremy simon jeremy Jeremy Simon if you don't remember him he was on gen season and he shared with her that his great-great-grandfather was like the chief rabbi of of Lithuania Lithuania before the Holocaust and it's very significant to him and we're pretty sure we're related to Jeremy Simon because we also had like a family member deep down the lineage who was like a big rabbi we are definitely related to him but far enough removed that like we could still set him up with Sachi with Margo a thousand percent honestly this show looks so good then Christopher Stallworth who's from Golden Bachelorette season one I feel like anyone who's from Golden Bachelorette could win this because they'll have just so much experience yeah I honestly I think that this is brilliant I also love them tapping Tyler C um and Joan from Golden Bachelorette I think people know her I think she looks familiar to me I think she won I know Joan okay she's the last one I think Joan was like the scorned woman Teresa Teresa yeah I think it was like Teresa and Joan understand it was Joan the golden bachelorette she might have been I don't know

36:43yes she was well all's that to say like good job to like good job oh speaking of jobs are we going to talk about Apple TV Apple TV Plus no you know they're dropping the plus I heard it rebrand over at apple tv plus the plus is no more i just can't believe like people are seeing this stuff and they're like oh we should like and seeing the reactions to it like max dropping max and they're like oh we should do something like that like that's a good idea i don't know it's kind of like an attention whore type of thing like they saw how much attention hbo got for dropping the eight drop putting dropping and then putting back in the hbo and yes while everybody was clowning on them making fun of them they were talking about them so maybe apple tv was like i want people to talk about us too let's do something just as stupid let's drop the plus the plus never fucking made sense the plus never made sense but it never made sense without the plus either because apple tv is also something you can physically purchase without having a subscription do you know what i mean but everyone calls it apple tv like it's on apple it should just be called apple i actually and then apple tv is the thing you buy to like plug into your tv when you want to watch netflix yeah because that's what i when you say apple tv i'm thinking of the little black box with the hdmi cord yeah but if i'm like the buccaneers is on apple tv i would never hit the plus no you would never hit the plus but i would never even hit the tv like what ted lasso's on apple the thing is we don't talk about their show like right this is not even it's a non-issue we as a society they had one good show no one's really talking about their shows and where you can stream them and to be clear we all interact with apple tv plus in the same way right like there's one show that gets popular you buy it you watch it and then you cancel ted lasso friends and lovers enemies high places what's that show called good neighbors and friends love your neighbor your friends and naders um everybody was talking about it i bought apple tv plus canceled it when it was over like that's just what it is i leave my subscriptions going um but you're better than you're financially reckless no i just like i i hate that feeling of like what's my password i need to make a login like i just want ease and because i'm a cord cutter I cut my cord for this reason so that I can have my so you could be free so I'm gonna pick of the litter but I don't know if you can call yourself a cord cutter if you still have a YouTube TV honestly YouTube TV is cable well that's why that's why I'm not hurting as a cord cutter but I am a cord cutter no people who are cord cutters like live with streaming services and they when there's like something on cable like they watch it on Hulu the next day like Dancing with the Stars No, just YouTube TV.

39:14You're not living the life of a cord cutter. I'm just letting you know. YouTube TV has like circumvented cord cutting so that we're not feeling pain. But like that's what it was meant for. You're cord cutting asterisk. I guess. But like, no, I don't have traditional cable. I don't have a cable bill. I cut that cord. You don't have a cable box. You don't have like a cord into the cable wall. But you watch cable. Just saying. But I'm not a cable cutter. I'm a cord cutter.

39:44sure cord cutting implies cable cutting as well i'm just saying well we do have some other streaming news that i felt was very pertinent to some of our favorite topics here at the show oh is it podcasts gonna be on netflix yeah i love that netflix will stream a selection of spotify video podcasts starting in 2026 no we are not one of them but we're not we're not not yet not yet we could be because as you guys know we are an official spotify podcast and if you wanted to watch us on Spotify you could which just like coincidentally happened and now Netflix is like oh Spotify video podcast we'll take you I love this and I just want to say okay sorry you go here are the details um for people who hadn't already heard this amazing podcasting news Netflix is officially diving into the podcast biz the video streaming giant inked a deal with Spotify to bring a batch of top original podcasts so they're also the originals like we're not a Spotify original podcast no we're not we're not we're not um maybe that's like the second wave Yeah, right, right.

40:38We'll get there. Don't rush, Jackie. Don't rush our life away. Right. Let them be the pilots experiment. Yeah, right. The guinea pig. Like, say that it failed because of them. Like, not because of us. Right, not us. We'll come in when things are... Jackie, they can't blame us if it flops. Including a podcast from Bill Simmons' The Ringer to subscribers worldwide. The companies do not disclose terms of the fact, including how long the deals run. But the partnership will bring sports, culture, lifestyle, and true crime podcasts from Spotify studios and the ringer that compliment netflix's existing programming and unlocks new audiences and wider distribution for the shows so you'll be able to watch these batch of shows on netflix obviously not to center ourselves and make everything about us but it does make the potential of us being on like a major streaming service one day like a reality we don't sound crazy so for that like i'm excited i'm excited for my fellow podcasters excited for everybody who's going to get visibility on like a huge streaming service and this is just exciting and this is like a huge win for us like independent journalists you know independent media and you know we are an independent media company not to get ahead of myself because we're not on this program yet but if we were to be on this program like that would mean the frames would be on netflix and and after everything we've been through it's just a testament to the haters being their motivators yeah like they started from the bottom now we're not on netflix but we could be and we might be no one has approached us about being on netflix by the way but this just feels like this is where the industry is going so maybe it'll be something else i would love like i love your flicks net but yeah i would but i'm obviously open to being able to stream on hulu i'm apple tv drop the plus i love your rebrand yes max of course we would love to have you yeah i'd even take you know peacock discovery plus whatever hulu yeah i said that already rising tides raise all shines this is great for everyone and you know what even if they like even if it never happened to us i'm happy for my my friends in podcasting because i'm just really passionate about the space now not to be a hater but did you like look at the list of podcasts and say to yourself who like of course i've heard of bill simmons and like his ringer network i've never seen a clip or listened to a minute of it but i know it's popular and so i'm happy for his fans like the other ones I was like who are these people so it's a lot of sports and I I couldn't say like it's if I haven't heard of them that doesn't mean anything read them to me Bill Simmons podcast the Zach Lowe show the McShay show fairway rolling the mismatch the ringer f1 show the ringer fantasy football show the ringer NFL show the ringer NBA show then culture and lifestyle the rewatchables the big picture the Dave Chang show the recipe club dissect and true crime is conspiracy theories and serial killers.

43:20I do think, I don't know how many of those, but I do think like almost 100 % are The Ringer shows. I think it's really like a pilot program with The Ringer because Spotify owns The Ringer. Got it. Okay, well, I love that because The Ringer shows, while I've, again, never heard or seen them, they are really popular amongst people whom I don't know. So I want the pilot to be successful. Yeah, so Ringer fans stream Ringer on Netflix. I think a lot of people like finagle their podcasts and get them on TV. Like they're air playing. They go to the YouTube app. So this is just a more streamlined way of what people are already doing.

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48:54And Sheena actually had the producer of the show on her podcast to sort of, because everybody would have said like Sheena's not on the Valley because like they didn't want her. But she was offered a role and she declined it and had Alex Baskin on her podcast to sort of like validate that that was true because no one would have believed it otherwise. Right. Did she say why? She did. She said she read a comment. I actually thought this was really profound. And shout out to the person on TikTok who recapped the whole interview for me because I did not watch it. His name is Josh. she read a comment about herself that like really shifted her perspective.

49:26They were like, Sheena's like the senior who graduates high school and comes back like knocking on the door is like being like, I used to go here. And she did not want to be that. And she said that really affected her. And then she also saw how Paige left Summer House and actually called Paige for advice. And really all of that empowered her to make this big decision. Wow. Yeah, I thought that was really interesting. That is interesting. I don't I'll have to watch the next season of the valley and see how it goes but like it's not like she's trying to go back to high school and like be on banner pump rules like the valley is college like I I agree I actually feel like she's being a little hard on herself um me too and I think the valley could have used a person like Sheena she was like literally this ethereal figure on it anyways so we're always talking about her yeah Sheena told me yeah she was like literally starting drama on a show she wasn't on like her absence is kind of glaring it's not like she's like forcing herself who told you this big rumor who told you right She's like forcing.

50:17It's not like she's forcing herself into a cast or position where like she doesn't fit or she's not friends with these people. Like when they tried to do Vanderpump Younger and she's like hooking up with like Max or whatever. Brett. Right. That was the senior going back to high school. Yeah. I'm sure there were other things factored into her decision, but I actually hope it wasn't just that common because I don't think that's an accurate take on the situation. Me neither. And I think the phase of life that she's in, it's perfect for the ballet. Right. Right. So, yes, she talked about her. Lala's talking about her return to reality TV life with two kids in the rebrand of her podcast.