Keep Your Man Ugly: Monday, December 2nd, 2024

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36:22Yes, and they've released just information about the Valley, and the Vanderpump Rules season 12 will be completely rebooted with a new cast. And to be clear, that's the upcoming season? Yes. So they don't even get like goodbye or nothing. It's like you're fired. It's over. Yeah. We thought that they had. And it's so crazy because it's just so classic us. We were talking about this on Tuesday. So I actually don't even feel like we missed out that much. We had this conversation about where do they go from here. And I was telling you how they're at a standstill because of salaries. Except the only thing that I got wrong was that Dumois had said that this season is being filmed and it's good.

36:54But where do we go from here? But there is no this season. So here's the information that we have. On November 26th, Bravo announced that the hit series was renewed. But the twist in the martini glass is that Vanderpump Rules will feature a brand new cast going forward. Lisa Vanderpump said in a press release in the restaurant business, one shift always gives way to another. Cheers to the next generation of Vanderpump Rules. So the original cast learned of the major series Shake Up 24 hours before the news was made public. Pretty much everyone is off the show except for Lisa Vanderpump. And now it is being reported that The Valley Season 2 will feature Sheena, Tom Schwartz, and Lala following the reboot news.

37:35So that's where we're at at the moment. So I understand completely, and I don't disagree with why they did this. Like, it's not sustainable. However, having said that, they did attempt a small-ish sort of reboot. And I think those were some of the worst years on Vanderpump Rules. Like, dreadful storylines, dreadful people. Max, Brett, Danica, Charlie, like that was horrible. So I don't have a lot of faith that this new reboot show they're going to put together is going to be good. Having said that, I actually think that a lot of the cast graduating, like the whole tie to Sir makes no sense anymore.

38:11Like these people are parents. Like, so having Lala, Sheena, I find Tom Schwartz really like an interesting choice. Having them graduate to the Valley, especially when the Valley was so successful, I think is natural. I just I think this is the end of the OG show because no one is going to watch this yeah so while I do think what we said last week about the salary cap issue being a major issue there the sources are saying that there had been a long long pause in production and nothing had really changed among the cast since the season 11 reunion the network felt there was no path forward with the group in that capacity I do think what I had heard was that Ariana was in like a in negotiations and she like doesn't give a fuck she has so many opportunities so not only did she want I think like a million dollars like something something huge she also wanted stipulations in her contract that she didn't have to film any scenes with Sandoval no scenes with Lala like things that really make the show we're gonna pay you a million dollars and you're not even gonna participate like really not it's not workable I think that if they didn't have rules like that and they put them on you know on a cash trip together and turn the cameras on I think they could have had entertainment value but it's as they say nothing lasts forever I thought Sheena had a really good outlook on it but also knowing that she's going to be on it's easy for her to like say goodbye to this like her next job is waiting um this wasn't going to go on forever and things change people graduate so I think this makes a lot of sense I'm actually glad they're just ripping the band-aid off and not letting this the whole show go like even though they technically did this with Roni I don't feel like it's the same I feel like this is a better use of this idea well Roni yeah is the natural comparison Roni felt really premature like I don't think there was really a lot of demand it didn't feel like they were at this stand so there was like an issue that the women were drinking too much and like going on in circles and then the next morning they had no idea what they were talking about so it felt like a little bit of a waste of time but there were fixes to it and the women really wanted it now it's like everybody shows up to Vanderpump Girls and they don't even want to be there like there's a lack of interest and I think that's where the two situations are really different but Bravo just doesn't have a great track record thus far of rebooting shows the good news is though I feel like there's really a lot of potential there are well I guess they're going to cast from whoever is already working at Sir but I feel like you know people in LA they want this so badly they're going to do what it takes to make great television and maybe we'll get a real like junior version of Vanderpump Rules the one that we all loved now as someone who is in my Valley era and who really enjoyed Valley season one one I've heard Valley season two is insane.

40:37Did you hear this? No. Oh my God. Where are you hearing things? I don't know where I saw this. I literally have no idea. Probably just like something in my explore page that it's the craziest season of reality TV ever. Oh my God. You should watch season one. I should. And now that Lala is going to be there, like, of course I'll still be watching, even though I already was going to. And I just want to say I'm holding space, a lot of fucking space for Lala and Tom Schwartz because I know by the reason is there for him to be on the Valley. yeah she was on watch what happens live last week and handy was asking her about relationships with different castmates like ariana she hasn't spoken to her katie she hasn't spoken to her schwartz she said i love schwartzy yeah i think that we feel it i think we're not like everyone we're not feeling nothing like there's something there if there ever was a reason for them to not especially from lala's pob it was her relationship with katie even when it was strained but when she was on watch Tom's Life she says she hasn't spoken to Katie like like there is no friendship there now they don't even work together on the show like what the hell does Lala owe Katie I think it's definitely a possibility and it could be one of those things that like gives the valley like it's sort of Scandaval moment like it's it would be huge but it also could have been the thing that saved Vanderpump Rules but the thing is even Scandaval didn't save Vanderpump Rules no sorry gave it a season and a half yeah it gives you it gives you a little bit more life but maybe like the production company couldn't afford it and the valley could because i sheena lala i mean sheena and not tom schwartz actually just sheena is the only one going to the valley who was an og cast member from vanderpump rules season one so she was one of the hot her katie maloney and tom sandoval were the only people who from season one were full-time cast members so they were the highest paid on vanderpump rules i guarantee you sheena took a significant pay cut to be on the valley but that's you know that sustains her podcast that sustains her instagram all the things that make her money.

42:29100%. Her YouTube, yeah. No, it's good business. And now I should rather be on TV than not be on TV. Everybody's talking about The Valley. They're going to be talking about The Valley. It's only in its infancy. So it's all up for them. And I'm really happy. And I feel like the people who didn't make it to The Valley, most of them seem uninterested in reality TV anyway, like Ariana and Katie. Except, and I think it's, no, no. I think the only person who wasn't invited to The Valley, and I understand why, but I do think it's a miss to not have James Kennedy on TV at all. and he needs to get married he i bet i bet you now he gets engaged and they have a baby just so he can get on the valley like i like how having a baby or like trying to conceive is like literally the one rule to getting on the valley which is why i don't understand how tom schwartz but that's so tom schwartz that has been tom schwartz's tom schwartz is just one of those people i think that's why so many of the cast members had fights them like bored under a lucky star he never worked at sir he never worked for lisa vanderpump he ends up getting his own bar he is a huge cast made on this show he never worked at the restaurant and served all those years in the back alley smoking cigarettes like everybody else he never put in his time but he gets these things because he's like a likable guy it's actually so unfair yeah that is i forgot about james kennedy where does james fall into because he's also like kind of i consider him more of like the new yeah like he could be on the reboot yeah he could but i think they just want to start fresh they want someone who's like this is my restaurant you know like they need all new and i get that and maybe he'll come to the valley one day yeah but he does live there yeah like they have the airport they have the house i don't know if that's in the valley well the burbs yeah um no he's on his way so i'm very excited for valley season two and and you know what in hindsight what we got at the season finale of Vanderpump Rules last season like that was a series finale now we know why there was that weird montage well I don't think they meant it that way but I think they left space for like how do we come back from here we might not so we're just going to show you like really where we're at and what we're thinking and in doing that they put a period on it You know that it's our time.

44:43These are the best days of our lives. Just raise your glasses high. This one's for you tonight.

44:59It feels right. I'm ready. I like change. Yeah. It had to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? some more marvelous changes in the air amongst love hailey steinfeld and josh allen got engaged in a rose filled proposal they shared on instagram this week that they will be getting married after getting engaged last week they shared a photo of them on the water rose honestly i'm seeing a chuppa and a lot of candles i'm seeing honestly that this was a wedding um and he it was a collab post and the caption was infinity 11 22 24 infinity okay written by josh allen by the way he's the lead on the collab oh actually i feel like it depends on who you follow because mine came up hailey steinfeld as the lead this is yes because you follow her but this is the people magazine embedded okay it's josh um i opened my phone and saw this and like actually made a sound like i was like oh like i knew these people i did we not talk about this one week ago that they need to get engaged in like the comparisons between them and Taylor and Travis not then Taylor and Travis both liking this photo like giving them ideas and shit yeah I think it's all good for Pars and Trav but not to take away from Hailey's moment because like I'm really happy for her she's really defied all the odds all the Bills fans not liking her I feel like she honestly like kind of put her career on hold for this man yes it's working out also I don't know if you saw like Josh Allen's ex making like a little bit of drama somebody um like had left a comment on her post being like you need to find like another NFL boyfriend now that yours is taken something like obnoxious and she responded well uh actually my current boyfriend is the owner of the team so no more CTE morons something like that oh my god wait and then she deleted the post deleted the comments and wrote on her Instagram sorry guys my Instagram's been getting hacked all weekend like trying to figure it out stay tuned okay like seriously lying about your instagram being hacked or any social media is the biggest loser thing you could do on the planet and it does remind me especially because you just have a big pair of brass balls to say that so keep them do you remember when um casey musgraves liked a tweet that was like derogatory about taylor swift and then said her twitter was hacked no i do i was years ago before casey was casey like it was it It was niche to me because I knew Casey, but people didn't know Casey.

47:31You could tell Casey, like, has Taylor Swift, like. Chip on her shoulder. Yeah. You know, she has that lyric. Never part of no big machine. Don't sound like. Don't sound like. Good old boys club. Yeah. No. If you're. If you've been present for the lore, like, you could find things with Taylor and Kelsey. But, excuse me, what's her name? Casey. Casey. Yeah. Lying about your social media is getting hacked. like when you said something that you didn't like it's a move i respect it but it's a really bad move i actually don't respect it and is like just to go back to the original point like is she dating the owner i don't know who she was referring to she says she her current boyfriend owns a team and so she doesn't have to deal with any cte idiots owns a team or a team no age and not the i thought i thought like he owned the bills i'm like damn and i actually watched the bills game last night did you see the bills played the 49ers and it was like 15 inches of snow like it was insane people couldn't get to their seats okay and the bills won and before the game started i had a thought and then the more i was watching and this is gonna offend some bills fans and like seriously i don't give a fuck so like eat my ass because i actually like the bills but the bills like have been consistently good for a couple of years they don't win the super bowl but like they're always good especially with josh allen like they're good and they always have like a good record right because you play half your games at home and like you're training in the snow and then you have people from the Miami Dolphins and the people playing in California come to your town and obviously you win and I saw this guy holding a sign that had like a statistic and they put it on TV I'm like you guys shouldn't be proud of that it makes us realize like maybe you're not that good you're just good at beating people like in the snow because this guy held a sign it was like we're 10 and 1 at home since 2020 like for the last four years you've barely lost any games at home okay so like that's why you're good because you trick people to coming get a roof why is there no roof like literally in minnesota where it's always snowing the vikings have a roof why the fuck would you a like subject your players to playing in the snow like it's such a bad health risk and two like it's a trick i bet you if they closed that roof and they all played regular games and there was like air conditioning and shit like that their record at home would not be so good no i don't know if you guys are ready for that conversation but it's a good point but i guess like are they not better football players because they know how to play in all the elements no that doesn't make you a good football player because you know how to like slip and slide on snow you like to dip yeah no and it's like it maybe if there were other and you know how to pop and lock and jackie there are no maybe maybe once every couple of years will it snow during a game like in new york like it's very rare but it's consistently always there's like a ton of games every season i just feel like we're not having that conversation out loud about buffalo and now I've said it.

50:10Now I've said it. I think you raise like a really fair point and they'll never get a roof. Like they, that's too soft for them. No, the lack of, they just like want to be hard. They want to be hard but there's also like a, not cheating. And I'm not saying like. It's a method. It's a strategy. I just want to say like, and you are hard. Bill's like fans. You're hard. You're hard. Like I'm not a part of this conversation. Just get a roof and like let's see what happens then. I would love to know like what the stats. I'm going to fade into the curtains. She fades to black. I would just love to know what the stats would be with a roof okay i'll call the roofer yeah get a quote get a quote never hurts to get a quote but i'm always getting a quote it's sometimes so inconvenient to do all the legwork and for what not only that sometimes it does hurt to get a quote because then you get like follow-up emails and texts for months on end i got a quote and then i decided not to do it of course that's what happens the quote talks you out of the project i got a quote and i decided to do it and then a few days later I was like I'm not doing it and then I had to like pay for the the time that the quote and it was like very off book it wasn't like in the contract to pay for the time yeah he was like don't you think you should like oh you got me and I measured and no getting a quote is free yeah no we got you paid with a quote yeah it was Jackie you're such a sucker the biggest everybody knows this oh my god if you're looking to swindle someone out of money like the vulnerable she's right here yeah no it's true i won't you don't pay for a quote that's like seriously the whole concept my husband is the opposite of me like yeah you two balance each other out so i am like this is you and by the way he was the one who took it on and still we had to like pay us something i guess if i if i gave you more details maybe you would understand more but still it doesn't always like not hurt to get a quote right you sound like somebody who got hurt I got hurt I got hurt I'm so sorry I feel better anyways Mazel Tov to Haley Steinfeld and Josh Allen I hope that he will be converting I hope they have a big beautiful wedding is she Jewish yeah yeah she is Steinfeld Steinfeld yeah I never thought of that so I hope that I'll meet you under the chuppa do you think Josh Allen will wear a yarmulke oh my god I'm freaking I do I was excited about these two before I even realized that yeah you think Taylor and Travis will be at the wedding no well that will be the big tell i think that i think taylor gets invited to a lot of weddings and unless like you're a true ride or die best friend she's not gonna go she's actually like a distraction like yeah it's cool to have taylor swift at your wedding no one's looking at you i guess unless it's like abigail you know but if she's like not there then there's beef and and we've long been wondering so even though they like the post i'm sorry there is beef you can't like the post of your enemies but you don't go to their wedding maybe taylor swift stop being friends with hailee steinfeld when hailee steinfeld released a song gotta love myself no i don't need anybody else because taylor was like i can't be friends with somebody who wrote the best song of all time because it'll just make me look bad because love myself actually her very brief foray into pop stardom is some of the best music what was that other one in capital letters yeah and then there was one more um when i get chills at night no that's love myself hold on hold on no she really like slayed the pop game for 30 seconds she kind of slays everything that she does it's true she doesn't flop oh let me go with alesso florida oh starving most girls most strong and smart and beautiful most girls work hard we uh go far unstoppable I'm obsessed.

53:46No. Starving. I didn't know that I was starving till I tasted you. That has over a billion streams. Jackie, both times when I sat down to write my Grammy Award winning songs, Toast and 100%, I spoke to the producer and the songwriter and they were like, what's your vibe? Like, who do you? They were like, Jess Glynn. And I literally said, no, Hailee Steinfeld. And they were like, oh, okay. Both times. Yeah, Most Girls is a Toasty Anthem. Most Girls is a Toasty Anthem. And Love Myself is really good. Shut up. Love Myself is really good. But if you do look below the lyrics, like beyond the surface lyrics, it is a song about masturbation.

54:25Do you know that? Yes, yes. Okay. Yes. Are you ready for our next story, which is a perfect segue because it is about Parson Trav? Okay. Taylor Swift and Travis. I think about masturbating. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's family spent special Thanksgiving together for the first time. For the first time in forever. There'll be music. There'll be live. Taylor and her family, including her mom and dad, hosted Trav and his family members in Nashville, people reported on Sunday. A source told the outlet that Taylor and Travis had a great Thanksgiving together with their families, calling the Tennessee gathering very festive and special.

55:07Okay, now I'm trying to like figure out why Nashville, but I think just logistically when she has a house in every port, you know, he was going, Trav had to go on. When was his game? You're asking the wrong person. What day did he play? Whatever. He had to get to Vegas. So I guess maybe her LA home would have been better, but no, it's not the vibe. Like New York makes no sense. Like it's just too far from Vegas. So Nashville's kind of halfway. Yeah. And you have to think about, you have to think about vibes. Like you want to set the right tone. This is a big weekend and you don't want, you know, no offense, the L.A.

55:45attitude. No, but in terms of her options, she has an L.A., Nashville, New York, and Rhode Island in America, right? Those four? That we know of. So it was really only going to be L.A. or Nashville. And I guess, yeah, you have to consider the vibes. No, Thanksgiving in L.A. It's like a Hallmark movie that's filmed in July. No thanks. And then I think you also have to think about hospitality. Like everyone's staying at your house. Like which house has more bedrooms? Now I don't know the layout of both houses. I would have thought her LA one was bigger. But in terms of bedrooms, like you have to think about the Kelsey parents and the Swift parents are both divorced.

56:17So it's four bedrooms. What about Jason, Kylie, and the girls? Were they there? They were. So it's Jason and Kylie, a fifth bedroom. And also Nashville's easier for those Kelsies to get to. They're not going to LA. The girls, six. Taylor and Travis, that's seven. Is the brother there with his fiancee, Austin, for sure? Unless he was with his fiancee's family, but that's eight. I'd say conservatively, that's before any friends, assistants, eight bedrooms. So she's got to think, which of my houses has eight guest bedrooms? I'm sure most of them. So definitely Nashville does because otherwise they would have done holiday house.

56:50Yeah, which is such a vibe. And I guess when you have a private jet, like it doesn't really matter, but it's a little inconvenient. And it's a little chilly. Like Nashville is probably perfect. It was probably idyllic. I'm sure that like every side dish, every turkey, I'm sure it was literally like a hallmark Thanksgiving. if you looked up a textbook picture of a Thanksgiving dinner, you would have seen this. Now, this is really behavior of two people who are betrothed. Yeah, you get engaged and then you do this. And then the baby comes in January. I think that it's just really serious type of behavior.

57:26And, of course, you can do this with your boyfriend. You actually don't do this with your boyfriend. I know, especially your boyfriend. Okay, let's say you're just like people who've decided not to get married. So he's your boyfriend of like 15 years. Your life partner. Your boyfriend of a year and a half. A year and give or take a few months. No, it's really serious. It's serious behavior. Yeah, they started in July. So a year and what? Four months. Half. It's serious. Yeah. It's serious. I think they actually have to be engaged otherwise. Like if I had a friend who was doing this with her boyfriend, I'd say that's too much.

57:59I'd say it's time for him to pop a question. Right. Unless he popped the question at Thanksgiving. Right. Right. Which people do that. Is there a better place? That's like a very, and honestly, when you're someone who has it all, like what's he going to do? The top of the Eiffel Tower? Yawn. It's so true. The more intimate, the better. Do it in my home, in my backyard. And maybe he played that Chris Lane song where he talks about doing that. Yeah. Remember when Chris Lane wrote that song for Lauren Lane, like about how he was proposing to her and then played it in real time? Of course I remember.

58:24I think that's what Travis did. I remember everything. What kind of music do you think that Taylor and Travis listen to together? because I think individually, like, they probably have really different tastes in music. Lurd listens to everything. She does. So I think she's fine to listen to whatever he wants to listen to and I think he likes a, they probably listen to, like, Post Malone is what they can agree on. He's for everyone. She's also very country and I know he likes Morgan Wallen so, like, he likes country too. I can't see her liking Morgan Wallen. Yeah, but I could also, like, he also likes, like, hip-hop.

58:59That's why I'm like, maybe Post Malone because he kind of does everything and he does country. It's actually a really good call. She loves him. Mm-hmm. And that's their, like, move their safe artist. Yeah, that's cute. Maybe he came to perform at Thanksgiving. Maybe he'll sing her down the aisle. She'll totally sing herself. No, I'm kidding. Oh, my God. Anyways, this is a really major update in the love story. It's also crazy that we know. No? It is crazy that we know. I hope we get some pics. I would just simply plot. I just want to see like the tablescape even. I think if we ever get pics, like it would be of the tablescape and it would be in three years.

59:38And we'll be like, oh, that was the Thanksgiving we talked about in 2024. I actually think the vibes cultivated like we're very folklore and evermore. Yeah, Taylor is like, and I mean this in a positive way, like really corny and she loves like a baked treat and she definitely gets into the theme and the spirit. Like, I love that about her. So she definitely like lays the table very Hallmark and maybe they got together and watched the Hallmark movie about them that Donna's in. She 100 % did and they laid the table with the fancy shit. lay the table with the fancy shit are you ready for our next story our fourth story if it's our fourth story that's brought to you by sex.com perchance it is perchancy today's episode of the toast is brought to you by sex.com the premier digital platform for luxury fashion with the holidays right around the corner sex.com is making it easy to find the perfect gifts for even the pickiest on our lists including yourself with an expertly curated assortment of fashion so whether you're shopping for that hard to please family member someone that seems to have everything or even your ultra stylish bestie, Saks.com has you covered with the most versatile selection of fashion, beauty, home decor, and so much more.

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1:05:12So Jacob Elordi attended the red carpet premiere at the Marrakesh International Film Festival in Morocco on Friday for his new film. No one knows what that movie was because no one can stop talking about his beard. So everyone is saying this is the first time that a beard has not enhanced a man's look. And considering he is objectively the best looking man of our generation, all is to say it doesn't look good. The thing is, it looks bad. I don't even think there were mixed reviews because I didn't see anybody saying anything positive. Like it's a bad beard. Now, I don't know if he's just a person who doesn't favor beards or this is a particularly bad one.

1:05:49It's a little unkempt. It's a little too big. I happen to have really liked it. I like when very good looking people look a little bit ugly. It makes them relatable to me. And I think it's like humbling. And I don't dislike it. I actually think overall like his Q score will go up from this. But he does need to get rid of it. But just knowing he's capable of looking ugly, like that's so human, you know? Yeah, I also think it's good for his future as an actor because, okay, maybe he's not always going to play the teenage heartthrob. Maybe he could play the ugly guy. Yeah, no, he's a chameleon. Yeah, not every person in a movie should look like a movie star.

1:06:25They're supposed to be based on real people. Regulars. So I think this shows range for him. So true. But if I'm his lady love, shave it. Well, if I'm his lady love, I'm grateful and I'm not going to be complaining. Like, hey, you should shave your beard. is like shave it the thing is is that if you look at olivia she's very beautiful skin and i i can't see that like rough coarse beard hair like being gentle on her skin and i worry about that because her skin is her business you know like that's how she makes a living i think it's an exfoliator for her maybe that's why her skin is so great maybe maybe but you know that there are people who experience what's that thing called like beard burn what is that oh man you don't know it happened to like one of my best friends in college when she was like dating her husband like anytime man well no yeah I guess if you date a bearded man yes like if you kiss them like some people have really sensitive skin I'm surprised this never happened to you because you have such sensitive skin where you literally break out into a rash like and like just from getting kissed so yes that happens to me I get redness but I wouldn't call it a rash it goes away in like 30 minutes oh no this like lasts a day or two no I wouldn't say a day or two google beard burn it's like on your chin no it's just like blotchy and red I would get irritated for sure yeah well some people have it really bad um it's called beard burn and that's why like their husbands have to you know live a beard free life a beard free life so maybe we need Olivia to fake a little bit of beard burn and then be like Jacob you have to shave look or maybe she's like wants to keep her man maybe not that it's hard to date the hottest man alive it is important that we all encourage our husbands at different points like to look ugly because like that's my man right and like who you're looking so good for no and it's like nobody's gonna want you for his job i guess it's good that ben doesn't brush his teeth yeah and i'll tell everyone my husband doesn't brush his teeth don't kiss him do not he's gross do not come he doesn't brush his teeth that is funny yeah okay are you ready for our fifth and final story some actually heated drama Not the heated drama.

1:08:34Not the heated drama for the fifth and final. But like Billboard magazine is really going through it right now because they endeavor to do something that nobody fucking asked for. It's so true. And they're pissing everyone off along the way. They are. So Billboard magazine has been putting together their top pop stars of the 21st century. And they've been like teasing every day, you know, number 10, 9, 8, 7, 6. So first they named Justin Bieber number 8. and Hailey Bieber is, you know, throwing shade their way. By the way, that wasn't ever confirmed that Hailey Bieber's, I thought that was, I think that was fake.

1:09:07Really? The Hailey Bieber shade. Because first of all, them naming Justin Bieber number eight is actually like extremely generous. I feel like that feels right. Yeah. And then the comment that she allegedly left on a Billboard post was never seen. I don't know that that comment was real. Okay, well the comment said, Billboard is a fucking joke as per usual. But that's just. I don't think she wrote that. That's just an appetizer to the main dish. It's an anecdote. Which is that it's a story about Parsley again, because Taylor Swift was crowned number two pop star of the year, which already has people like in a tizzy because they think that she should be number one, given all of the.

1:09:39After after they announced number three, everybody realized the only two spots left were Beyonce and Taylor. So they were like fighting. I don't remember. OK, it's so of not important. And also I think Billboard doesn't know the definition of a pop star because there are people who are left off that list. and then there are people who are on there's bands on that list yeah so I guess a band is a pop star and then that means like where Maroon 5 wasn't on the list and they should have been like they don't know what a pop star is and then like some people on there weren't pop stars Rihanna was number three Drake was number four I don't think I would consider Drake a pop star correct pop stars for the girls I just I agree completely but I don't know was the weekend on there um yes he's number 18 no there's a lot of he's like a boy pop star to me Justin Timberlake is also a boy pop star yes now my issue is that he's number 14 which doesn't feel right but um he could be here that's fine and Justin Bieber too is a boy pop yeah fine yep um five Lady Gaga six Britney Spears seven Kanye West I wouldn't consider a pop star eight Justin Bieber nine Ariana Grande 10 Adele 11 Usher oh you know that feels right really yeah he just he just operates under the radar that's the thing but like 20 Bruno Mars are you guys okay oh that's wrong he should be top five he should be taught he could have been that 10 yeah 10 spot that's wrong also so yes the it started because then Rihanna was three spots everybody started fighting Taylor and Beyonce are left for two and one and they announced Taylor as number two so people are upset about that fact just in general but then they put together this video package of her highlights And in that video, they included footage from Kanye West's music video where he had created a mannequin of a naked Taylor Swift.

1:11:31And this is like the thing. This is her Roman Empire. Yeah. From the famous music video. And it's like it's not even really her. But like, why would they include that? It's a 3D model. It's not germane. It's offensive. It was offensive then. It's offensive now. It has nothing to do with all of her amazing accolades. Like, it's seriously so offensive. They got so much backlash for including it. they finally like apologized in the middle of the night but people are not happy about that in particular and it's kind of like ruined this whole fun that they were having it's true it's true now I really want to talk about two things one can we just quickly discuss like what you think of them giving Beyonce one and Taylor two like I I disagree with that but I do understand that like this is subjective and like someone could argue both sides um like there are things that Beyonce is definitely better at and there are things that Taylor is definitely better at I happen to think the list of things that Taylor is better at is just a little bit longer which is why she would have been number one um but like I'm not mad Beyonce is one of the greatest so like if she's gonna be one or two like I get it I just that's if I made the list I would have done the opposite yeah I just feel like you can't call things until they're passed like it's so true we'll see how history remembers all of this and what what turns out to be the biggest things like I can't call it while I'm in it no that's a really good point so and then I think today they announced that Beyonce is number one but I that's all sort of been lost in yeah their statement was like it was an oversight this is what this is sorry they said we are deeply sorry to Taylor Swift and all of our readers and viewers that in a video celebrating Swift's achievements we included a clip that falsely depicted her the publication wrote an apology post shared on X just after midnight on november 28th we have removed just after midnight yeah they posted it at 1 a.m like they thought they could like get away sly with this apology and honestly one thing about the swifties they're not dropping anything and and they shouldn't drop this like a dog with a bone they said we have removed the clip from our video and sincerely regret the harm we caused with this error i just like things like this don't happen accidentally or slip through the cracks like it's very intentional and it's so disrespectful it is and i feel like taylor went through a period in her life and i I don't know if she's still like existing in this space where anytime there was something like within culture that she found offensive, like she would speak on it.

1:13:42Like Ginny in Georgia, you know, she called out Netflix for making that joke. And so I think there was a time where she would have spoken on this. I don't think she's really about that life anymore. And also like Billboard is such a strategic part. You can't like alienate Billboard, right? If you're an artist like her who cares about all the accolades and the charts, like they are a strategic partner of hers. So I don't know if she would say anything regardless of that, but I do feel like that part of her career where she was like constantly like speaking out is kind of over. Yeah. I also want to know the criteria for this list because I saw some interesting stats because then the Swifty started arguing why Taylor should have been number one.

1:14:19The most interesting thing that I read was that Lover was a five-year-old album sold more copies this year than Cowboy Carter album. And how do we fact check that? I don't know. Didn't you tell me that? No. How many copies of Lover sold 2024?

1:14:42In the first half of 2024, it sold 208 ,000 copies. So I guess let's say 410. Okay. Okay. Wait. Why did I think that though? Like I really thought you told me that. I never told you that. Copies of Cowboy Carter sold 2024. by the way oh the first album's first sales first week I'm sorry 407 ,000 so no that's not true oh my gosh okay well then take back what I said stricken from the record no and by the way I saw people arguing both sides of why it should be Taylor why it should be and there are really compelling um arguments like you know the fact that Taylor is the sole songwriter of most of her music and she plays multiple instruments is like a huge factor that that compared to Beyonce is not also um I mean if you compare I think like a big thing is like being a hot pop star it's like the dancing and that's like Beyonce is like you know amazing and Taylor you know she's gotten better but it's not like her thing yeah um also like the number of number one hits according to Billboard how many times you've been number one on the charts with Taylor was so much more um so there are compelling arguments on both sides and that's why there's really no wrong answer it's not wrong to say Beyonce's number one I just would have made Taylor number one yeah no it's not wrong to say and I actually think you know what these two fandoms I just I don't want any part in this if it was my list like it would have been Kelly Clarkson number one little mix number two and by the way it's important to note that Kelly Clarkson was noticeably absent from this list in general okay and that's why this list is disgusting it's actually so true so why like why are us caring we're giving this list credence that it doesn't like a not because either you're gonna piss off the Swifties pissed off the beehive or pissed off billboard like i'm not part of this what's my play fans call themselves the clarksons what do we call ourselves yeah i don't know you know you know i'm the biggest fan of people but i've never really engaged in like stand um what's the name of kelly clarkson fans club kelly-anators clarksonators team kc no thank you that's bad no thank you that's the name of like her official fan club that's the kansas city jeeps yeah that's not a good one sorry it's okay when you have that's okay she's not on the list when you have raw talent like that you don't need frivolous things like that yeah and also we're like grown women us kelly fans it's true like your mothers your lawyers your business owners like you're not arianators arianators oh my god my entire timeline on every platform now me too behind the scenes wicked content and i'm like i think i might be an arian either like i just am i actually think i might download threads because i'm getting all these like threads really compelling thought provoking yeah teased in my instagram where they just cut me off right before where you would be interested their crush i'm so close even one person I looked up their handle on x because I wanted to see and I couldn't find it they're about to get talk about threads like that failure that was really crazy I didn't download threads that day that one billion people did but like now I did these wicked movie reviews that they're leaving me in the lurch might get me no but if you're writing shit on threads and not other places like do you not want people to see it I don't know I don't know what's going on but Like Threads is trying something.

1:18:11I just want you guys, I'm warning you. They're coming. They want you to engage. And you're getting dangerously close. I'm getting dangerously close to the edge, I am. So I have to say, the studio has been a dream. Let's just pray that my, what do you keep looking up at? Jack Self. There's a huge TV right here. Yeah, huge. Like I'm literally, I'm a movie star. It looks like a movie. Okay, Jacob Elordi. Yeah. Are you at the Marrakesh Film Festival? Yeah, I actually look like I'm at the Marrakesh Film Festival. Will you be in the studio tomorrow? No. Oh. No. We'll discuss. Oh. Am I supposed to know something about tomorrow's show?

1:18:48Yeah. Are you not on? Yeah, that was the plan. Were you going to tell me that? It's fine. I'll get Ben to sub for you. Remember I kept saying December 4th, December 4th. No. You don't remember? Search December 4th in your texts. No, what I'm going to do is text Ben. He's so dramatic. When I make any sort of change to his schedule, watch us. Honestly, the studio is pretty close to the airport. Can you host the toast with me tomorrow, question mark? By the way, we can record early if you want to come back to the studio. You just let me know. It's pretty close to the airport. Just makes you think.

1:19:18And then Zach has to get the boys ready for the play, not you. Yeah. Let me know what Ben says. But, like, we can make – it's always a make it work moment. No, Ben, like, Ben will be, like, difficult about it. But then he – all he wants to do is come on and promote good guys in Spritz. So he'll be like, I'll make it work. Yeah. No, he loves it. And everyone loves him. So it's, like, as much as I'm going to miss you guys. And, of course, like, I'd love to see Mike Gerton again. it's all to the good I would love to see your curtain again too so we'll discuss offline that's our show you guys thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday morning show where we deliver the fast-paced stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe and give us a thumbs up we're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast can be found so that's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, Ryer, Radiocastbox all the places where we listen to podcasts find us The Toast leave a five-star review do it I dare you do it you guys it's been so long about how beautiful standing and wickedly talented we are This has always been so Wicked Coded.

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