Knicks in Five: Thursday, June 11th, 2026

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21:25Jackie Oshry:That's O-L-D-N-A-V-Y dot com. Thank you, Old Navy, for sponsoring today's episode. Oh, I'm not closing my iPad because I'm doing the stories. Okay. So much to talk about. So our first story is going to be sort of like NBA subset, Taylor Swift. Great. Taylor went to the game. Yes, she did. She was there with Haim, the two sisters, and then she got seeded because I watched the whole thing. So she didn't come with Mariska. Mariska was there, of course. You know, Mariska and Jalen Brunson are like best friends. Did you see when the Knicks won, Mariska Hargitay stormed the - Yes. She stormed the Capitol.

21:58Jackie Oshry:She stormed the court and she ran into Rick Brunson's arms. You're lying. Can you explain like Rick Brunson? So Jalen Brunson's dad is like a coach on the Knicks? Jalen Brunson's dad was also an NBA player for the New York Knicks during 1999 when they played and lost to the Spurs. Oh, wait. Rick Brunson - were in the NBA finals. They lost and it was 1999. They lost in five to the Spurs in 1999. I didn't realize it was to the Spurs. I'd chill. Yeah, and there were so many parallels. Remember Tim Duncan, who's now like a Hall of Famer for the Spurs? Yeah, of course. He was on the Spurs. He was 22.

22:33Jackie Oshry:Victor Wabinyama, you're saying? Victor Wabinyama. Yeah. There were so many of those parallels. Rick Brunson, player, NBA. And now he's a coach? And now he's a coach for the Knicks. That's so cute. He's been coaching Jalen his whole life. Yeah, it's amazing. The whole thing is amazing. Yeah. So Taylor was there. Mariska showed up in a different shirt and then they obviously made a shirt for Mariska. So I don't know if you saw Taylor was wearing like a blue shirt that looked like it had like the word Nicks on it, but it actually said Stevie Nicks. Yes. Which was really cute. One of the Hame sisters was wearing the same thing.

23:01Jackie Oshry:They obviously like did this like DIY project because one of the other sisters was wearing Nick Cole, Nicole Kidman. And I just want to say that one was dumb. I didn't like that one. They all should have been wearing Stevie Nicks because like it's Stevie Nicks. Yes. And Taylor's like best friends with Stevie Nicks. So I really liked the wardrobe. I didn't like Nick Cole Kidman. Oh, and no, one of them was also wearing one that said, Nick, go back. That's cute. No, like, the Stevie Nicks one was the best one. The other ones were silly. Kylie and Timothy were wearing matching chrome hearts. Okay, sorry, I'm getting off.

23:27Jackie Oshry:So Taylor was there. But don't you think it's really crazy that, and Taylor is like an OG Nick fan. She actually has, like, deep roots in Nick fandom. She's not, like, a bandwagoner. It's crazy that she went to the Cleveland game with Travis. Now, she didn't wear Cleveland outfits. She didn't wear Nick's outfits. But she was obviously there, like, supporting the Cavs, right? No, I do know. So you're telling me you know with 100 % certainty she was not wearing anything Cleveland Cavalier related during that game. Was she wearing red? What color are the Cavaliers? Red. She was wearing maroon. Oh, maroon is their color.

24:04Taylor Swift. Because this would be a problem.

24:06Jackie Oshry:Yeah, that's... And then I can explain. Okay, she... No, no. Okay, no. She did not wear maroon. She wore black and jeans. Okay. She did not wear one ounce. Okay. Actually, her jeans are blue. Okay. And Travis wore all denim and a red Cavs hat. Sure. Okay. Taylor Swift is a Knicks fan. She is. I know for a fact, during game one, I actually sat next to a lovely gentleman who was seated first row, but they wouldn't let him wear his Knicks jersey. And so instead of taking it off, he got a worse seat. Instead of taking it off, he got a worse seat. Okay. That's dumb. I just want to say. I was looking right across at Shane Gillis.

24:47Shane Gillis. Oh, is that who it is? Yeah. No, it wasn't. No.

24:51Jackie Oshry:Oh. No. These are two separate people. Oh, okay. You're being confusing. No, I'm not. So you're saying Shane Gillis took the seat and took off the jersey. He just wasn't wearing anything. Yeah, you can't at an away game. You can't wear the opposing team. You can't wear. You get a courtside seat. Correct. And I learned last night, actually, that courtside seats, for the most part, like, you really can't buy. The Garden Lease, I don't know if this is for every stadium, for the most part, like, a couple of people have season tickets, like Spike Lee, but for the most part, you can't even buy them.

25:15Jackie Oshry:Like they're given away at the discretion of the garden to Jimmy Fallon, to I'm sure like important business people. So yeah, they can be strict with the rules. And I'm sure others. Because you're being invited and you're probably not paying. Yeah, that's the thing. Celebrities, unless like Spike Lee has season tickets. But all the other celebrities like don't pay. No, there's, it's probably like 50-50. I think a lot of it's corporate, right? Yeah, right, right, right. Like, you know. Like that's why random. White Waterhouse Cooper. Sure, sure, sure, sure. yeah Taylor Swift is a Nick fan if she went to the Cavs game and didn't wear anything related to the Cavs last night I saw everything that I needed to see she was jumping for joy she stayed the whole time she did not stay the whole time at the Cavs game I mean anybody would be jumping for joy last night that doesn't like that's not it she was also drunk which I like love that she's like she gets drunk I saw her it's in my vlog I was like filming her the whole time like a true stalker the guy next the guy next to me was fucking drunk last night and let me tell you okay nice kid nice kid whatever I'm being nice you turn to me at one point you're like are you burping this fucking kid non-stop he must have had like 15 beers hot dog hot dog I was I was in his mouth yeah okay I was in his mouth and then by the way with like nine seconds left you saw hey let's take a quick selfie like I'm in the middle we're in the middle of a comeback okay and he kept asking me he kept asking me in the fourth quarter I don't know if you heard man how famous are you man man how famous Sorry, we need a selfie.

26:40We need a selfie. My ex-girlfriend loved you. She loved the toast. Oh, man, she'd be so upset. I missed all of this. I had no idea. Oh, man, she'd be so upset, but I don't care. I don't care. I'm here with you.

26:49Jackie Oshry:He was blackout. He was blackout. He was so nice. There were a lot of people there alone, which was nice because, like, no one's alone. You're never alone when you're with Brunson. You're never alone when you're with the Knicks. It's true. Once a Knick, always a Knick. So a couple of things about Taylor's presence there. One just interesting to see how like so many people interact with her. One of those people being Kylie Jenner. So I don't know if you know you. Taylor's just like whenever she goes anywhere it's like landmines. She has so many like feuds or whatever. One of them is of course with the Kardashians.

27:20Jackie Oshry:Kanye and Kim the whole song you know the letter the lyric you know the saga. Yeah but like I have to assume that now that Kanye is fucking crazy that the Kardashians and her have no beef. Well so Kim like when Kim is asked about it she always says like we're good we're good we're good. But it's like Kim is the one who did it to Taylor. It's not like on Kim to forgive. It's on Taylor. Sure. And let me tell you, Taylor does not forgive and she does not forget. She wrote like a whole reputation album about it. She still writes songs. She wrote a song called Thank You Amy where the K, the I and the M are all capitalized.

27:47Jackie Oshry:Like she fucking hates Kim. Oh. So Kylie was there. And now let me tell you because I was sitting behind them so I could see. They were in the same row but there was, they were like pretty far like and especially for coming and going during like halftime and stuff. They were using different sides. So they could have gotten away with not saying hello, not hugging. But they did. When everybody stormed to the court, there's this video that like they're in really close quarters and they both like turn and see each other. So they're like, hi. And they hug and Kylie was like, that was crazy. Yeah, I saw.

28:17Jackie Oshry:Kylie's eyes. Like, I just know Kylie's shitting her pants. Like, because the thing is, it's been grossly inconvenient for the Kardashians like to be beefing with Taylor Swift. They have so many kids who are girls around the age of like Taylor Swift fans. Like, I'm sure that they all wanted to go to the Ares tour. I'm sure that they can't escape the music. that Kylie Stormy's like five or six years old. Like six-year-olds fucking love Taylor Swift. I'm sure they're going to see Toy Story and the new Toy Story movie's all Taylor Swift. Like I imagine it's been really annoying, but like Taylor hates them for sure, but she was such a queen.

28:47Jackie Oshry:Like Taylor's so famous now that like a lot of her feuds are sort of not even worth her time. Sure. Like it's beneath her to even care. Sure. She's literally like more famous. Like she's just as, that's why someone at Mahjong yesterday was like, why do people care so much about this wedding? And I'm like, because it's really the closest thing we have to a royal wedding here in America. So, yeah, she's on such a different level. I don't even know who to compare her to fame-wise, like the Beatles. That's why it's so unbelievable that the Knicks did that last night. I know. Do you think they get nervous when they see her?

29:17Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I think that's exactly why they lost game three. She wasn't there. No. Trump's in the building. No, but he's all the way up there. Like, they barely even know this. He's just like a face in a crowd. She's right there. She had probably the best seat in the whole arena. She's at the half court line on the wood. Like, I imagine it's actually quite jarring. She is this. That's what I mean when I said, like, when she walked in, like, the vibes changed in the whole arena. Like, she is this presence. Yeah, it was crazy. I wonder if any of them, you know, where do they, like, where do they stream the press conference afterwards?

29:48Jackie Oshry:Like, I keep seeing clips, but, like, I would like to watch. On the exact, on the channel. Oh, really? Yeah, like, right after they have post-game interviews. You're kidding. No, like, right there. Like, you didn't have to change the channel. I'm cracking up. It's not, like, hidden from you. Oh, I thought it was, like, yeah, like, like, an industry thing. Okay. But I'm sure that Jalen Brunson is a big Taylor Swift fan because I'm sure that Allie Brunson is a big Taylor Swift fan. Yeah, 100%. She's very swirly. She's got that swirly too. Yes, 100%. So I'm sure that they were freaking out. I'm sure Josh Hart was.

30:14I'm sure that they were so excited that she was there. They are so used to having A-list. But she really is another level.

30:21Jackie Oshry:More so than even the Lakers. I think that their front row is the most insane A-list. So yes, I think to a degree they're sort of used to it. I think they're sort of used to it too. But like if I was in the press conference, which like seriously, get me a fucking press pass. Like I want to ask like, what did you guys feel when you saw Taylor Swift? Kylie looked insane. She wore a matching Chrome Hearts like denim Luke with Timothy. And this video of them hugging, like I could probably watch for two hours and like keep seeing new parts of it. Like it's just, I'm watching it right now. It's insane.

30:50Jackie Oshry:And like Taraji P. Henson in the background. That was also the crazy thing. It was like, everyone was trying to get tickets to this game. It was like the great equalizer. Like huge celebrities were like in the fifth sixth row like it was insane and that just shows you that celebrities don't pay for tickets right because there's a finite number of tickets in the front row and if you wanted to go and you wanted free tickets then they're going to sit you in the first six rows yeah last night's game though people slept on it ticket prices dropped they did they dropped significantly i'm not saying that they dropped into a place where it was affordable but they dropped you could have entered the garden at three grand and last week it was 10 12 yeah everybody blew their load on game three yeah everyone and everyone was losing game three took a lot of the i think like wind out from it's not even that i was in i was in the elevator this morning with a guy going to work wearing his knicks jersey i saw him everyone is wearing their knicks outfits and i said to him like he's like what a game i'm like yeah i was there he's like oh my god i have tickets to game six what i didn't want to tell him is i don't know if you're going to be going against sex but it's so hard to say if you have one pot of money are you gonna go which one do you go to you probably want to go to the one that you think is going to be a closeout yeah but let me tell you i really think that was our closeout i don't know how you go to san antonio and lose yeah like like that was it does not get better than last night yeah it doesn't it doesn't get better than last night a little bit more taylor swift drama which is like seriously cracking me up.

32:18Jackie Oshry:I saw this on Twitter this morning and I get got by like so much AI content, like so much fake, like celebrity posted this that I thought for sure Selena Gomez's Instagram story was fake. But one thing about Selena Gomez is like she's not of this world. She's the craziest bitch on the planet and she did write this Instagram story, okay? So fans are confused by Selena Gomez's very cryptic comment under a picture of Taylor Swift at an X game and people don't know what to make of it. So everyone was at the garden last night. The way BuzzFeed writes stories, like girl, just tell us. So Selena's posting.

32:52Jackie Oshry:Was that thing that I saw? No, I. OK, sorry. Yeah. All right. So she posted an Instagram story calling out people who have become sudden fans of the Knicks. So she posted like a NBA website screenshot, a historic comeback. And then her little comment is mad respect for the game. OK. Congrats to the peeps that represent. What does that mean? What a comeback. So funny how some of y 'all, how some are all the sudden fans though, LOL. So people think that maybe this had something to do with Taylor being there with, you know, friends and having like her girl gang moment and Selena's not there. Wait, aren't they friends?

33:32Jackie Oshry:Yes. Yeah, so that's not what it is. Really? Yeah, people want to start beef. And then, wait, and then MTV posted like a carousel of pictures of like Taylor and her girls being like, you know, swirly at the game. And Selena Gomez commented, LOL. Oh, that's right. No, I'm telling you, like, first of all, Selena Gomez is crazy. She's a massive Spurs fan because she is from Texas. So she was documenting herself, like, watching the game. She's in London at 3 a.m. on her phone being like, yeah, I'm watching. Then, yeah, MTV posted Mariska, Taylor, and, like, the girlies. And Selena commented just simply, LOL.

34:08The truth is, I don't wish on my worst enemy to be a Spurs fan last night.

34:15Jackie Oshry:So some people think Selena was just like lolling at Taylor's funny t-shirt. Others assumed it was like a playful team rivalry. She spurs their necks. However, some people think that the cryptic comment may have something to do with an Instagram story that Selena apparently posted and deleted after the Spurs loss. Which is so funny how some of y 'all are all of a sudden fans though. Hmm. Like this is something Selena would do. Her social media is, she's actually been quite. You know this better than me. She's been good for like a few years. But she's always posting like the craziest thing. Like I'm taking a break.

34:42Jackie Oshry:And then she comes back 30 seconds later and starts drama. Like she's really like deeply unwell. So I could see this. But her and Taylor are tried and fucking true. But the good thing is that we have this litmus test coming up for Taylor's wedding. Like who's in Taylor's life? Like who was a real friend? Who was a real colleague? Who was a real acquaintance? Because it's in a thousand person wedding. So she's being quite generous with the invitations. And like if you're not there, you're not there. Yeah. So if Celine is there, like we're good. If Celine is not, maybe it's mean something. I thought they were like, aren't they like best friends?

35:10Jackie Oshry:Like a decades long friendship. Yeah. So I don't. I don't know how Taylor's friends with her though. She seems so crazy. I don't think that this has anything to do with that. I think that, uh, I think that this has at least the first comment. Yeah. There are a lot of bandwagon Knicks fans. I don't give a shit. Like, you know, talk about that. That shit pisses me off. People like gatekeeping the Knicks. Like it's cool that like, even if you don't live here, it's so exciting. Like people wanting to be part of it, going to bars or every bar and restaurant. And there's no fun. And we want that sort of fanfare.

35:36Jackie Oshry:It's not like, it's really truly the more the merrier. I know that makes it harder to get tickets and stuff, but like it is annoying when people are like well you're a transplant or like you haven't lived here that long or like oh you're just now it's like girl shut up by the way it doesn't make it harder to get nick tickets okay that's like it's hard already it's hard already it's always gonna be hard there aren't enough seats for nick fans there is enough money like it's the tickets are too expensive that's a totally separate story these new nick fans are not coming up to old nick fans claiming that they're bigger nick fans they're just also nick fans they're just they're also just rooting for the team gatekeeping um so yeah i have no i have no issue with new nick fans like Like, there was a time where...

36:13Jackie Oshry:I'm cracking up. You are on one. Am I? Sorry. Am I? There is no issue at all with being a new Nick fan. It used to be embarrassing to be a Nick fan. Right. Like, it used to be, like, if you were a Nick fan, you were a loser. If you weren't here for the Raymond Felton era, like, you don't know. Oh, so you're gatekeeping. Because, yeah. Because, yeah, they were so bad. You know what else I found interesting? There were so many celebrities there last night. Like, they did this roundup. they obviously went to every celebrity and like had them wave at the camera but um so there was all those courtside seats but there were like two suites full of celebrities and i found it really interesting like who the garden cheered for because it kept showing everyone it's like they showed jerry steinfeld and everybody went wild like the classic people then they showed ben padgley and pen badgley and nina dobrev and let me tell you like not one person cheered yeah they showed like tate mccray and hailey bieber like there were some cheers but like it's very interesting like who's so New York like the people in the audience like they don't give a fuck about certain people like who otherwise are extremely famous Kevin Jonas was there Kiki Palmer was there there were so many of course Liam Neeson like the New York people like Edie Falco who plays um Soprano the wife what's her name Carmine yeah Karma no no Carmela Carmela no yeah Carmela Soprano wait wait wait I think Carmela yeah I think so Soprano Carmela Soprano and then like the other guy from Sopranos they were sitting together who's also from Blue Bloods Anthony something he's like they got the loudest cheers and they're not like the most famous or like the most of the moment it was just very interesting who got like the craziest cheers yeah I'm trying to think who were they who were they deafeningly silent for besides Penn there was another one wasn't there yeah who was it I felt bad Amy Schumer like people actually booed her like that pisses me off why would they boo her because she's like a Zionist is that what it is yeah it's really upsetting because like that's my queen right there so I'm gonna say that I think Selena Gomez was starting stuff but I guess we'll see if she's at the wedding like then that's that on that agreed that's kind of what's exciting about this wedding I feel like um I do still hold like one candle of hope that like this whole Taylor Swift like lively like feud is fake although I'm pretty sure it's not and if she was at the wedding I just think that would be like a really big say oh you know they say Taylor's getting married at the garden and like yes I don't know why she would be getting married at the garden because it's so private there's no windows you can't fly a drone over like it's literally and it's a thousand person wedding and i think they want to get married in new york city for some reason so it's like where can you own a thousand person wedding in the city that's so private it's kind of an inspired choice i guess that you could with unlimited money make it not look like the garden well yeah i think a lot of people are like what she's gonna have like an altar in front of a basketball hoop no they're gonna like you're not gonna see it's not gonna look like a stadium like when you have unlimited money like you're Right.

38:57They remove the seats. You go to an expensive wedding,

38:59Jackie Oshry:like you walk inside a tent and it looks like there's like drapery. They're going to do that like time, if that's where it is. That makes sense. I also just don't know if like, they're saying it's MSG July 3rd. Like, I just don't think we would know. But that does, it does make more sense at first. I was like, she's getting married on the next court. Yeah, right. But like, no, you remove the court, you remove all the courtside seats. All of a sudden, you just have this big, blank canvas, 20, 30 ,000 square foot area to just. Build tents. and I think Activate and like no one can get a picture and to your point crazy security crazy security I mean look how many people were there last night they had the president on Monday like they're equipped they're equipped for that level because that's the type of A-listers who are coming you're right you're right I know it actually does it makes a little sense it does it makes a little sense and the drone thing is very interesting yeah you can fly a drone anywhere if it's outside right not inside yeah it's kind of brilliant it is kind of brilliant um what's our next story let me I'll do one more Nick's story and then we'll move on to like other topics of discussion unfortunately.

40:00Jackie Oshry:So the last thing I wanted to talk about is this video that's going viral of Victor Webinyama getting pelted with eggs after the next game. So Victor Webinyama like is the star of the other team. He's 22 years old and he's like 6 '8". He's like this. He's 7 '4". Okay cool. And I think what's like there are a lot of really tall players but what's really special about him is like if you're really tall sometimes like you're not very coordinated because it takes a long time for like your brain to tell your arm to do something. So he's like very very coordinated and he's just like definitely gonna be he's been in the league what for one year yeah he he's gonna be a great he's gonna be like a legend um he's 22 so he's still like really young and um he's french which i just thought was interesting and everyone in new york hates him and i will say like some of the knicks fans were pissing me off last night because it's like victor wendigama gets no calls victor wendigama plays dirty and it's like by the way victor wendigama does play dirty he does but like a lot of the you got you and like your friends around you like the new friends that you made we're like that's a fucking foul it is he just has a big arm like no no no everything is a conspiracy no no no no no no it's it's it's real it's real you can watch the highlights the refs were terrible uh that said you said that he's from france is he not he is he played pro basketball in france okay they play dirty overseas that's a fact this is a different brand of basketball and he is playing an overseas brand of basketball where you pull jerseys where you elbow people where you are honestly a piece of shit like he really is he is so dirty and to be 7 '4 and so dirty that being said the same way that you said that we have these fair weather Nick fans that are in and all of a sudden everybody's a Nick fan let me tell you we do not claim for one second the person who pelted him with eggs we do not claim the Nick fan who beat up the Spurs fan apparently and we certainly do not claim the Nick fans in the streets that are destroying property breaking taxi cabs I've never seen anything like it and they are they are not Nick fans they are just hooligans in disguise who love chaos.

41:54Yeah. That's it.

41:55Jackie Oshry:The video of him getting pelted with eggs is so wrong. So I guess, and maybe this is not a thing at like every other city, but like, because it's in New York city, when like they get on their bus, they go to their hotel. When they walk from the bus to the hotel, there's like barricades of fans. Kind of like when Taylor walks to her apartment. Whereas like, I think maybe if you were in like a, like a more suburban town, it wouldn't be like that. Like a million fans waiting for you by your hotel. Like, no, it also get a little bit of privacy, but because it's the city, you don't, I really don't know.

42:20I, I was surprised to see that he was out in the street and not like going in like a back entrance to somewhere.

42:26Jackie Oshry:I think that they can't. But like if you were playing in like the middle of Texas, you can like pull into a garage, you know? Yeah. I don't know why they didn't fly home. So there were a lot of fans like waiting there, of course, like booing, whatever. And then somebody threw an egg at him. Like, I just think like that's really fucked up. And it's like, it's yeah. And then I saw the video of everybody like stomping on a cab. Like, stop. Like, that's not that's not the vibe. But by the way, you saying stop, we don't. these people are nowhere in our orbit. I know, but they represent your city and your team.

42:53No, they don't. They're transplants that are there.

42:56Jackie Oshry:Oh, now they're transplants. Now I know how the Philly fans felt when everybody was calling them domestic terrorists. You know what? You're right. It's interesting because I was saying that and I can confidently say - Now you say that about Philly fans in general, but you wouldn't say that about New York fans, right? I can confidently say that these are not Nick fans. So if in order for you to believe me, I need to say confidently that those are not Philly fans okay then they're not Philly fans I feel like they throw an egg at him like that's seriously so mean and he's 22 I like not you know I can't really watch too much sports as like a boy mom because I'm like very empathetic and I was really starting to feel bad for Webinyama like it's just a lot of pressure on him and he's very talented like skill wise but I think because he's only 22 he lacks like a little bit of like a maturity and emotional intelligence that's the whole team the whole team is unbelievable and 22 years old so like they lack the sort of like emotional strength versus the physical strength and it was really starting to feel bad for him.

43:47Jackie Oshry:Everybody was booing him and the arena kept cheering like, fuck you, Wemby. And it's like, he's just playing for his team. If he was playing for your guys' team, you would love everything that he was doing. Let me just make sure that I made this point very crystal clear, okay? Wemby is such an unbelievably dirty player. Unbelievably dirty. That said, it stays on the court. You do not throw eggs at somebody. You do not curse at somebody in person. This stays on the court. You're watching a basketball game. You're rooting for your team hard. The second that that game is over, he's a human. He's a human.

44:17He's a fierce competitor. I think he's incredibly dirty. I'm not a fan of his. I'm not a fan at all. Yeah. I'll probably hate him forever. He's one of those, like, I just...

44:26Jackie Oshry:What if he ever came to play for the Knicks? You would love him. He'll never come to play for the Knicks. He'll never leave San Antonio. This is like their generational, decades long, this is their guy. He will retire a spur. Oh, wow, really? Yeah, that's it. They will never let him go. This was our final story about the Knicks, so, like, we are going to move on to talk about, like, why? What the fuck else is going on? Just like a couple of other things. Like what? If there's anything else you want to say. I love the Knicks. Okay. I love OG Ananobi. Me too. I love Jalen Brunson. I love Josh Hart.

44:56I love Carl Anthony Towns. I love Jose Alvarado.

44:59Jackie Oshry:Let me tell you, I love that Mitchell Robinson. I love Mitchell Robinson. But like he's got to like learn how to shoot. I love Mikhail Bridges. Yeah. Also, I hope that OG Ananobi has like a beautiful woman at home who takes care of him. Like, I don't know. Whenever I see him, I always think like. I hope you have a wife. I don't know anything about him personally. I think he does. By the way, shout out Canada for bringing us the Toronto native in OG Ananobi, who just seems sweet as sugar. I agree. I love him. His disposition. He's very chill. He's very chill. And he is so fucking good. Yeah. The Knicks are, this was me last night.

45:34Oh my God. Oh my God. All right. I'm doing one loud one. Oh my God. Let's go Knicks. Okay. We can stop.

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51:58Jackie Oshry:But Jesse Solomon made a lot of news yesterday because he posted in his Instagram what he believes to be his complete timeline of the Wes Wilson and Amanda Batula romance. So we saw part three, the final part of the reunion on Tuesday, and everyone was just pretty much left saying like, we have no clarity. You can't get your dates right. When did this happen? Who, what, when, where, why, how? Like it was really not a resolution filled reunion. Everyone was left with more questions than ever. So Jesse Solomon took it upon himself to use his platform to share what he believes to be his timeline.

52:29Jackie Oshry:So he said, that's a wrap on the reunion. Thanks for having me. Time to lock in on my music. And he did a carousel pictures of Watch What Happens Live and him and Andy, Jesse Solomon with the camera. And then this screenshot of what he says is the timeline. It spans from February 10th to March 23rd. 23rd on February 10th I won't read you the whole thing you can check out his Instagram he thinks that like that's where he that's where it starts for him um West and Amanda go to dinner in Miami him West and Amanda are all in Miami together and they go to dinner by themselves and don't invite me then it ends on March 31st where he shares the news dropping confirms everything he calls out West for lying um I ask West and you know what I'm actually glad that he did this because I know that West is not like a main character in this it's like Kyle Amanda Sierra and West but he was crying the entire reunion he's very emotional guy I think that like him and West had a real friendship and he never he didn't get anything from West nobody did but he got nothing and I think he was really expecting like a moment with West or a cry and he got nothing so I like of all the people I want to hear from yeah like Jesse Solomon is one of them and you know what like fun fact Ben's having dinner with Jesse Solomon tonight have you met him before we've never met um I'm excited for dinner we're definitely not going to talk about any of this Oh, you think?

53:44Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I think, no, I think that he's just, I would hope, just like a real, nice, normal Jewish guy. Well, him and I were DMing and I was like, I know you're busy right now with like the biggest scandal in reality TV history, but I do think that you should find time to like meet my husband because I think you guys would be great friends. Yeah. Especially because he's now like doesn't have any, like his summer, Wes was his best friend, his brother, they're like not speaking. So I don't know if he's from New York City, but I just feel like he needs friends. Like he seems kind of lost. So I'm excited that you're getting dinner with him.

54:12Jackie Oshry:I'm like, yeah, don't get T. Just be a friend. Be a friend. And I'm also excited. This new song, Wildflower. Is that what it's called? You got that shocked me like a heart. Very good. Wild flyer love. Wild flyer or flower? Wild flyer love. Wildfire. It's so good. This song is very catchy. It is. I like it a lot. And I'm so excited. I hope that he's getting something out of reality TV. I know. Because it's so important to get yours. otherwise it just seems to ruin you yeah like dear friend craig conover would you say he's gotten something out of reality tv yeah a ton of course i mean built businesses work out but he met like one of the great loves of his life through reality tv he built businesses he yeah i would say yeah yeah he's gotten a lot about jesse solomon he's gotten a lot out of it and the people who get a lot out of it great it's a job and you use that job to propel a career yeah otherwise it just fucking ruins your life i think you need to do a verse like on wildflower love that would be great you need to do something i could be the rapper yeah i'm here in the wildflower love looking at you you're my wildflower love looking at me you're my wildflower love

55:27Jackie Oshry:i'm like literally literally okay like drop drop it yeah i'll drop so i can't wait to hear about your dinner with Jesse. Like, just be a friend, you know? I'm so excited. That said, I am so tired. I know. I can't believe you have to go out tonight. Like, I'm seeing my ass at home. I am so tired, but. Two nights this week, we went to bed at midnight. Like, that's insane. The Knicks energy is going to get me through. It's true. A bunch of coffees, maybe a little NeuroGum. Of course, of course. Yeah. Our fifth and final story is a little bit more Summer House news. I'm just sort of closing the loop on something that was a rumor.

55:56Did I miss the last episode?

55:58Jackie Oshry:You did. I didn't see it. Did anything happen? Anything good? Like, actually, no. Okay. There wasn't a lot of resolution. There's one more. They did drop a trailer. Oh, can I just say something? This is important. Oh, God. Why? Because I didn't see. I didn't watch this. And I'm not going to comment on all the. The drama's the drama. Okay? This whole arc that Kyle Cook is a good guy. I agree. Let's not forget that he called me a scumbag. And a liar. And he called me a liar. He called his wife a fucking bitch and a dumb bitch. Like, you're the least of it. Yeah. No, this whole rewriting history that like, oh, God.

56:29Jackie Oshry:Because Amanda slept with someone after her divorce, somehow Amanda being a disgusting friend makes Kyle a good guy. He's still a terrible husband. That was the most frustrating part, especially part two of the reunion where they really dived into Kyle and Amanda's. Everyone is rewriting history, being like, yeah, well, Amanda, you did this. And it's like, he literally called her a fucking bitch and said, fuck you in front of everyone. That's what he did on camera, in front of the world, in front of their friends. Like, please, this whole revisionist history, I completely agree with you. This Kyle Cook arc, like it's like okay like let's yeah let's do that I also don't ever remember when it was appropriate to say oh yeah I cheated but that's because I was in a loveless marriage right we weren't having sex I don't even know I don't know when that became a thing so he's a cheater he called me a liar he was mean to me if Kyle he was mean if Kyle Cook like just apologized to you would you forgive him of course yeah of course like it's not it's not that it's not that deep I just like this idea that he is now all of a sudden a good guy just because his ex-wife did something bad the real villain here is very clearly west well that's it hero here is very clearly an a-lister so okay do you remember before the reunion aired but it had taped there was an audio that got leaked like somebody recorded pieces of the reunion and it was a really big deal bravo took it really seriously they did launch an investigation it was someone from production they figured it out but basically somebody recorded at the reunion.

57:59Jackie Oshry:They film it and then release it like a month later. But somebody recorded like a couple of voice memos, like minutes of, and it was kind of tea filled. Like I lived for it, but Bravo took it really seriously because it was like a huge breach of privacy. Well, Andy Cohen has finally exposed who solved the Summer House leak, and it is an A-lister. So Andy Cohen revealed that the Oscar winning Bravo super fan, Jennifer Lawrence, was responsible for solving the case of the Summer House reunion audio leak. Andy said on Watch Revenge's Live, there's been a lot of speculation of who that Bravo superfan was with a lot of people assuming it was Jennifer Lawrence.

58:30Jackie Oshry:Andy continued, and I just want to say, Bravo superfans are the best. You rode with us on this. You knew that this was bad and that it was leaked and that you wanted to see it when we presented the facts. Bravo fans are the most loyal and the most dedicated. And they said that Jennifer Lawrence's online sleuthing helped the network catch the person who leaked the audio. Page six, reach out to Jennifer Lawrence's rep for comment. They haven't heard back. I just want to say, there was a lot of speculation that it was jennifer lawrence like people just made that up online like it was so and then and like andy like never spoke on who i just want to say like i think he's lying like i know that's crazy but i think that because i remember hearing andy talk about it on radio being like you know we made this whole big deal about who solved the audio and like now i can't really say and i don't know i just feel like there's this really convenient rumor that it was jennifer lawrence and like they can't prove that it wasn't so yeah it was jennifer lawrence I also don't understand like how could she have figured it out right that's what I mean in his Watch Happens Live admission he didn't say how she did it with some online sleuthing okay we can all do that like why Jennifer Lawrence but online sleuthing of what yeah no he gave no context I kind of feel like he's lying I know that's crazy I'm with you right not to be a conspiracy theorist but like why not why not us the kid next to me last night the entire time all he was he was looking he's like why not us why can't it fucking be us why can't we do this that's so nixed like everyone's so like self-pitying he was really though I think he manifested it the whole time yeah he was like why not us we were in a particularly crazy section can we talk about are the people behind us okay no like everyone's commentary and so funny no not the commentary them making us stand up when they had their own row no like New Yorkers think that like I guess New Yorkers just like talk loud so they think that nobody can hear them like the commentary around us was just like truly fucking crazy there was like an actual crazy person three rows in front of us it was extremely entertaining but when vibes were low like in the second quarter we were down by like 30 points and like nobody could score for their lives it was dark like these like everyone's emotions were just like so you could feel them yeah it was it was crazy the highs and lows of a lifetime it was almost like I was almost about to be so annoyed that I was gonna get home at midnight the Knicks lost by 30 we spent money on tickets I was about to be so fucking annoyed and it just turned it was really it was amazing it was amazing literally when and you will find out more on the Patreon blog when Brett came up to us at halftime he's like i'm so sorry you're at this game and then as i left he's like you're fucking welcome that yeah if you're not watching i made a roller coaster with my index finger it was really um i'm sure my aura ring i gotta check my stats my heart rate was through the roof by the way we need to go hydrate is that what you're doing right now yeah i need like a stick or something yeah we're not like no we need to stay i need my electrolytes i'm really just we went to bed at midnight no we went to bed at 1 30 like that's insane you guys and i couldn't even sleep when i got home i was just like sort of revved up i could have stayed up all night yeah and it wasn't even tired no i wasn't i wasn't tired i'm tired now i wasn't tired well thank you for joining us like seriously perfect timing yes thank you guys for watching thank you so much for listening tomorrow jackie's back so we'll be regular scheduled program can't wait to repeat everything i said here to her tomorrow thank you so much for listening to the toast and man i want to show you to the fast i'm going to be every Monday through Friday and YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube please share to subscribe subscribe so we'll be able to spot it back at Spotify Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.

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