LET'S ENJOY IT!!!!: Thursday, March 20th, 2025

30:54Like, I am not sure how to receive this. And maybe you're right. I'm just, I haven't even - I don't know, I'm not saying I'm right. I haven't even read what other people have said. Me neither. Let's game it out where it's not shady. Let's talk it through. Right. Okay. So Amanda posts this thing. Like I'm scared for Megan. You know, like people are going to tear her up. Everything she does gets like eaten alive, yada, yada. And like it's all like in jest, but also at its core, like protecting and fearful for Megan. Yeah. That's not a bad thing to be fearful. Megan sees that. And she kind of wants to rise above.

31:29Like, yeah, I know what everybody says about me, but we're having fun. Like here, here's a letter. I actually don't know. I can't even begin to understand because this is so crazy. I just feel like if you're going to support someone, like, yes, amongst other things, you could worry how it will be received for them. Yes. It's definitely something. When people care about you, that's something they do. But that's not the first and only thing you say. This looks amazing. Megan's stepping into her truth. I worry about this. You know, there are so many other things. So her comment was shady. You really think so?

31:59It wasn't. Now I'm sure if we were to ask Amanda, she would say, especially now, like that it wasn't shady. I would say she barely thought about it. Yeah, right, right. And also, here's the thing, and this is kind of my worst nightmare. Because every time I post something on social media, on any platform, I'm like, what should I caption it? Nobody fucking cares. Like these days, especially with Reels and TikTok, like nobody's reading your caption. So the fact that like a caption made news and you know she just like, she just wanted to post the trailer and get it up quickly. Because like in this line of work, you got to be first.

32:30Yeah. She just threw some shit up on the caption. And the caption is like what made Megan write a letter. Yeah. No, I totally agree with that. I don't even think she gave it a second thought. I think if you asked her what she meant by it. She might not even be able to tell us. Captions are so meaningless. They're full of fake words. I actually, the other day, put something up and wrote a caption. I'm like, I feel like I've written this caption before. And I actually scrolled on my own Instagram. I was like, I don't even remember. It was like for a real. and I had written word for word, emoji for emoji, the same exact caption.

33:03Because captions are just like bookends. It's an afterthought. Yeah. So the fact that like she probably threw some shit up on the caption, like really, I think we're definitely overthinking it because creators don't think about captions. Nobody reads them. Right. So the fact that Megan read it, internalized it, wrote a letter, this is weeks later too, because she had shared the trailer. That was what she wrote. I'm telling you, it took Amanda definitely two hours. to put together the map of what Megan is talking about. Yeah. I was feeling scared. About what? Yeah, like, what's wrong, Megan? Don't be.

33:38This is the fun part. Let's enjoy it. Because that's saying, like, if you don't enjoy it, you won't have fun. No, no. Here's what she's saying. Let's enjoy it. With a gun to her head. Yeah. Yeah. So, I guess we'll mind what we say. I just feel like Amanda probably has the biggest pit ever. And I want to say like you did nothing wrong. I feel like she had the biggest pit when she got the letter because that's the worst when you say something about someone. Not even like a negative thing. Just you say anything and it reaches them. Like seriously, I hate that. Of course, no. In this line of work, you're kind of used to like talking about people at a much higher level than you like celebrities.

34:15And it's not meant for them to hear. It's for the lay people. It's for everyone else. So then the idea of them hearing it. When they enter our arena, it's like get out of here. No, this isn't like it's about you, but it's not for you. it reminds me when Justin Bieber came from Morgan Stewart for something she said on like Fashion Police or that is something or Nightly Pop excuse me and he like took the clip put it on Twitter he like came for her really fucking hard it's like well it's not for you Nightly Pop it's not for you Justin like I don't like when celebrities enter like commoner spaces yeah it's really true so I think when she got the letter she probably had a pit but I think now she's like it's become like such a story and it's like honestly great for a man who's like PR like in this in this job you When people are talking about you and your podcast and your Instagram, it's all good.

34:57And I think it's a good look for Amanda, and it's not a great look for Megan. Net, net. I completely agree.

35:07Yeah, it's red rum. Let's enjoy it, Claudia. You better fucking enjoy it. It's like, here's Johnny. Let's enjoy it.

35:24maybe we'll get a letter i don't think she takes time to listen to podcasts no it's true like this was like we clipped something we said about her like then maybe she would see it because i think she's on instagram but she's not listening to this long this no laffy here's megan

35:42okay let's enjoy it so crazy sending like thoughts prayers and all my love to amanda Like I actually, that's my worst nightmare. It really is a nightmare. A waking nightmare. And the thing is, is we say such crazy things about people. Like of all the things that somebody could respond to, what Amanda said, like we don't even know if it was shady. It's always that, by the way. It's always like the random thing that you said. Yeah, because like if somebody can't respond to a fire point. You can't like worry about it. You know? Like I don't even want to know if somebody heard what I said. If they want to say something.

36:15I actually don't want to know. No, I mean, I just was telling you. I sent you that thing. Like somebody we talked about. Oh, right, right. And you know what? I don't even care. Great. You listened to it and you didn't like it. Anyone followed us. Great. Anyone followed us. Great. Once we start censoring ourselves, we have lost it all. I'm like, I'm never going to meet these people. I don't care. No, that's also what's such a fabulous part of not being a guest-based show. Yeah. Is that we could talk about people and never worry. Because one of my nightmares is, I think I told you this when it happened.

36:44I think I said on the podcast is when the chicks in the office had Katy Perry. They had, this is so funny. They had Katy Perry on their show and like the Katy fans like went back and found like shit they had said. Cause they've recapped pop culture. And when Katie, when Katie had that like nun murdered for like her house or whatever, remember she was in that lawsuit. The nun died. It was like this whole real estate thing. And they were just like making funny jokes about it. And never thinking like, of course back then that Katy Perry would be on their show. Meanwhile, cut to that is my worst nightmare.

37:14And that's how we run with people on the show, so we can continue to speak freely. It's true. It's true. Are you ready for our next story? Three? Three? Yeah, I'm ready. Colleen Hoover put out a weird-ass Instagram video saying she's broke as shit after a merch sale amid the It Ends With Us drama. Not only was there—okay, I watched the whole Instagram story, sad. I can tell you all about it. Great. Please do. I'll just share the need-to-know details. as Colleen Hoover is spilling the diet Pepsi tea. Right, right. The author revealed that all of her merch on her website has been marked down to$10 an item amid the ongoing it ends with a strama, which was going to leave her quote broke as shit.

37:53She said that's like - That's not what she said. Okay, like this is so misleading. So she put up five Instagram stories and they were so weird that it really caught people's attention. And then the thing at the end about the sale. So the first three stories were her, first of all, moving so slowly. I don't know if she - Yeah, I had to turn it off. Yeah, I don't know if, I've never seen her Instagram stories before. So I don't know if this is her usual way of talking and moving on camera. If so, it's fucking insufferable. If not, she looked drunk, being dead serious. But I don't think that she was.

38:20I think that's just like how she talks on social media. And look at me. I just couldn't keep up with it. She basically was showing us she made ice cubes out of Diet Pepsi. She's like a big soda gal. And of course, you know, watery soda when your ice and your Stanley melts. So she made, and she's a Pepsi, not a Coke girl. She made cubes out of Pepsi. I was going to share it with us. And then she did this whole boring thing about putting the ice and the cup and the diet peps taste testing all to be like, well, good. It's good. It tastes like every other Pepsi I had. We won't know if it worked for a few hours.

38:50I'm like, oh, riveting. Like it was just so boring. Then that was three frames. This last two frames were sharing that her merch has been put on sale. And it was like people are taking it out of context because it was it would be like if you and I had a big sale. I'd be like don't like Jackie put all the merch on sale don't tell anyone it's like a marketing technique do you know what I mean so she's like my boss just called me and was like we put all the merch on sale for$10 like I'm gonna go broke with how cheap it is it's like a marketing ploy do you know what I mean yeah she said that's like five times cheaper than what I paid for each item which means by the end of the day today I'm going to be broke as shit because I was about to be like girl merch is not your business merch is also not your problem no like you have the biggest books of all time people are taking it like far too literally wow so this is really some muckraking over here yes it's kind of like when we say you know the warehouse is so sick oh yeah the warehouse has a cough because our merch is so sick you say like you say dumb shit they were like pandemic breaks out at toast merch warehouse because all the items are so everyone in quarantine yeah and like it's a marketing ploy it's a tactic and it she's not broke i just feel like the way that she's talking it's just like not clear that she's joshing you no especially because the pace and the cadence of her voice was insufferable i i don't know if i've ever watched an instagram story of hers this might have been my first time and i'll just say like this is why you should not seek out or follow your favorite authors on instagram it's never gonna be what you want it to be and it it might ruin your favorite books 1000 when I first got into reading you were the one who told me like never look up the authors like on goodreads and you were so right especially because if you're writing like sexy books then you're like thinking about the author writing it and she's like someone's mom it's just like it's too much information so much so that when I first started reading before I got a kindle I would like flip really fast past the front cover so I didn't even catch a picture because you know they have a little author picture on the front flap you're so right we need to know less about authors bring back pen names yes what's the one daniel handler who's that lemony snicket well that was his pen name lemony snicket got it yeah his real name bring back pen names yeah especially for smutty novels else yeah yeah so so colleen's not going broke from the lawsuit that she's not involved in okay and if you are going to like research an author obviously do it when you're done with the book but it will change how you reflect on the book it's true it is true are you ready for our next story number four number four that's brought to you by vivrell yes pargelish so vivrell is the first of its kind luxury accessories members only club providing members access to borrow designer handbags, jewelry, watches, and diamonds.

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44:58The astronauts. The lady, I know there's like a bunch of astronauts that were stuck up there. There's two that were stuck because the reunion video, I think that was where like part of the rescue from the other rocket. Because like to me, the face of this whole saga was that woman. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny when she comes down to earth, like she looks different because her hair like because of gravity. It's settled. Yeah. But also I saw a picture, a video of her, like she hasn't walked for 10 months. Uh-huh. So she couldn't even get up. No, I know. I saw like people were saying how in the past when people come back from space, like they can't, they don't know how to walk.

45:30They drop everything because they're just used to like, they're, they forget about gravity. Yes. And they faint a lot. So it's actually going to be like, you know, kind of a long journey for them to adjust back to Earth. But here's the jaw dropping amount that the NASA astronauts, Butch Wilmore and Sunni Williams, are likely to be paid after an eight day mission that turned into nine months. Right. Do you sue? Or like, don't you get paid handsomely? Right. Are you getting paid per hour? Because at that point, what was eight days is now 800. How many days is 10 months? 300. 365 minus 60. 300. 300.

46:04Yeah. So it's literally like 30 times what you were supposed to do. Yeah. So NASA is now expected to compensate the astronauts for an extended stay in space, though an exact figure has not been released. However, a former NASA astronaut, Katie Coleman, said that astronauts only receive their basic salary without overtime benefits for incidentals, a small amount they are legally obligated to pay you. She said, for me, it was around$4 a day. She received approximately 636 in incidental pay for her 150-day mission between 2010 and 2011. $600? $600. For these people, they're estimating they would get about like 90K all in.

46:46It's not enough. It's not enough. Well, are they going to sue? Are they mad? I don't know. I wasn't getting like mad vibes, but they should be big mad. Well, the thing is, if I'm up there and the only people who can get me back, I'm not going to start doing televised interviews. No, I'm going to be like, they're doing their best. Yeah. And then I get back down on Earth and it's scorched earth for these bitches. So maybe now they'll get mad. But you're right. Every time I saw an interview, they were like, we're having fun. Look, my pee floats. I think they also lost their minds. Oh, one thousand percent.

47:22And NASA needs to cover all like mental health expenses. They need severe therapy. Yeah. And, you know, they fucking hate each other. These two like they were supposed to be stuck in this thing for eight days. and they're in this tiny little thing where they have to sleep on a mat for 10 months. No, this is hell. But you don't think it's also maybe like an astronaut's dream, like that you get stuck in space? And I feel like they always, they did always know that they could come back because SpaceX could always get them because SpaceX like runs trips to the space station all the time. It was just a matter of like NASA.

47:54Politics. Yeah, politics, like because it's a NASA mission and, you know, then they had to go and ask Elon to pick them up. Right.

48:03I, if, I mean, I don't know if like this is something you just come to it, like expect it's part of like the lived astronaut experience, like that this might happen. It does seem really out of the ordinary and really crazy and like, okay, maybe they thought eight days, but we ended up spending two weeks, like 10 months. Yeah. I'm sorry. It's unacceptable. And if I'm the families, maybe the astronauts themselves aren't mad. Astronauts' families are mad. Yeah, because I think also. You stole my mom for 10 months. In order to be an astronaut, like you go through a lot of testing, like mental and physical.

48:32You have to be a very even keel person like that's that's like works well under pressure. Not someone who's just going to fly off the handle because things go the way that they said that they were going to go. So what you're saying is I couldn't be an astronaut. You cannot be an astronaut. However, you're right in that their families don't go through that. Their families can be emotional. So I hope both families sort of band together. They deserve a million dollars minimum each. Yeah. Plus like the mental rehabilitation, the physical, the time lost with family. I want them at the best psychological and physical rehabilitation centers in the country.

49:06No cost. Yeah. To them. But so far the reunion and the rescue has been really joyous. When they landed in the water, there was dolphins around the capsule. I don't give a fuck. Like we, it's all been joyous for sure. But you want revenge now. Of course. There has been no anger. And if that's me, like I'm angry. I know, but they have the temperament of an astronaut. They are the elk of astronauts. Whatever, like, the equivalent of, like, the Tony Busby lawyer is of the astronaut sphere, they need the Tony Busby. Yeah, but I could also see this becoming a movie where, like, you know, it's Jennifer Lawrence and Chris Pratt, and then they're stuck for 10 months, and now they're fucking.

49:44And then they have to go home to their families, but they've fallen in love in space. And so maybe they, like, go back to, like, this just, like, Kennedy Space Center, and they, like, go in a simulation where there's no gravity, and they just to feel something recreate what they had i i that movie sounds amazing yeah i feel like it's not like based on a true story but it's inspired by real events inspired by real events and we don't know that they didn't fall in love we don't know what happened on that capsule right it is crazy that like it was and i think they're both heterosexual like that it was a man and a woman not like two girls or two guys or it's just like there is potential for love here if i have a hallmark if i'm the wife back home i'm pissed yeah and like are you concerned a little bit because at the end of the day you couldn't even blame them for falling in love what else do you do no what like they don't have netflix up there do they i think they do i mean they have all the technology in the stratus you need wi-fi they're connected they're connected to they could talk back home like they have wi-fi yeah i think they have a portable dvd player They definitely have Kindle.

50:46Well, no, maybe not because like Jeff Bezos. Because of Blue Sky. Yeah. They have like a Barnes and Noble Nook. They have like a Fire tablet. E-reader. Yeah. Plus they have Starlink Wi-Fi. Yeah. But like, I'm sure the whole like zero gravity thing gets old really quickly. Like it's fun. Not for 10 months. Yeah. No, they were just, even in that video where they're like reuniting and everyone's like bouncing off the walls. It's so crazy. It is really crazy. And I wonder like what would happen if you put your hair in a ponytail because her hair was like was loose the whole time. But obviously it would be up like a.

51:23Right. So I guess that does unless you did like a really slick back bun. Oh, could it be defying gravity? Do you think? I think there are buns so slick that they do defy. I feel like there are products that are like anti-gravity mist. Yeah, right, right, right. From like a Mika. Let's put it to the test. SpaceX. Here we come. So funny. Well, I'm happy. I'm happy these people are home. Get your money. don't settle for anything less than 90k yeah sick sick how about 90k per month then we're at a million are you ready for our next story that will lead into our tv recap of summer house yes i am because our fifth and final story like craig and page are making news offline off shows about their breakup so first the trailer for next week southern charm a little teaser drop next week or sorry tonight's episode of southern charm is the finale so it's when we'll cut to winter the future craig goes to his buddies she broke up with me i bought a ring and he says that page broke up with him over the phone after a great thanksgiving together so he tells austin and craig the story that pretty much we heard on watch what happens live from him that they had a great thanksgiving at her parents house then like maybe one or two weeks later she called him like i think we need to break up he waited a few days to like see her in person in new york and then they like confirm the breakup um and in those few days was something like southern charm premiered and then by christmas new year's is when they told us so he's sharing that on southern charm tonight like i'm sat have to watch but then page shared a lot of details about their relationship on the summer house after show with amanda and sierra she said that she tolerated too much in her relationship with craig can i tell you as somebody who loved these two so much as a couple everything I'm seeing now makes me so sad at the end of the day though the net positive is that this really wasn't the relationship that we all thought it was and and when we were breaking down like the day after they broke up like what oh Charleston it was so much more than that and these two people were actually like not right for each other so that's like the only peace and solace that I have but to see it like get ugly really makes me sad because I liked them I like them both individually so much but as a couple like they really brought so much joy to the Bravo universe.

53:37And I think that both of their experiences like are their own. And I feel like this week on Summer House, you could really see like they are speaking the same language, but they are not understanding one another. Like Paige, you know, when Craig is checking in on the status of their relationship and especially as it pertains to this big tour, when they already don't spend so much time together because they're long distance, you know, he sees that as a check in, right? She sees it as sort of like a doubting and like making her big moment about him. And so while I think that they're both valid in how they receive that conversation like they really were not on the same page at all like they were never gonna they were never gonna get to like a middle ground place honestly yeah and maybe when they started dating they were like closer to the same page and then over the last three years they've just moved further apart to where now they're just like even if someone's saying something with like a good fine intention it's just totally like misconstrued based on how different they are at this point yeah so and I thought that was a great question that Andy asked um Sierra and Amanda on Watch What Happens Live last night was like oh my god did you guys know like Paige was so he said like checked out of the relationship because watching this week's episode he said next week it's even worse like did you guys know at the time and they were like no watching it like we can see she clearly is but at the time we didn't know but so the fact that they broke up like between them probably wasn't shocking but it was to us do you know what I mean yeah and a few weeks ago on Watch What Happens Live Sierra had said that Like she wasn't shocked when they broke up.

55:05She's right. Yeah, so maybe over the summer she didn't see like what she's seeing now. But by the winter, like she knew that Paige was like having doubts and over it. And another big thing from the after show that's making headlines is that it's Paige, it's the girls. And the question that gets asked to Amanda is, do you think Kyle regrets anything he said on that episode of Watch What Happens Live about Craig? And she was like, he should regret some of the things that he says, but he definitely doesn't. And then Paige said, I don't think he should regret it. Yeah, now things, for like a few weeks, they both really like wanted to take the high road.

55:40Like relationships can end, but we have like love and respect for each other. And then after like the cheating allegations that like Craig refused to respond to. Get involved in. Now like things have turned nasty and now they're hearing what the other person has said about them on their show. So then you just like, then you want to get your side out. So now she's sharing a lot in the after show of Summer House. She said that she was really blinded in her relationship. She said, I think I loved him so much that I tolerated too much. And now that I'm out of it and I look back at things, I'm like, oh, wait.

56:07So she said anytime she had a personal or professional milestone, Craig would find a way to make it about him. She said it was just embarrassing. So that's something that I look back on now and I'm like, oh, wow, I was really very blinded. I had to do a lot of damage control. She acknowledged that her tour for Giggly Squad also affected her relationship with Craig, who already thought that she worked too much. She said when I started having a panic attacks this fall while I was doing Giggly Squad shows, he just thought it was because I was working too much. So it played into his whole, well, you work too much and you shouldn't be doing all of this thing.

56:36She also said that Craig had once encouraged her to watch a documentary about Swedish pop group ABBA's journey with touring and how it, quote, ruined their marriages and their lives. She said, I was like, I just got a beta blocker prescription, but thank you so much for the nightly TV watch. No, recommending somebody who's having a panic attack a documentary is such a crazy thing to do. I was actually laughing when I heard that. And this is what I mean. Like, this is what I was saying. I don't think either of them were like ill intended in like, I'm sure Craig thought he was being helpful when he said that, you know, but like when they're so, they were really are so far off from one another in terms of like goals and, and the future.

57:10And they've become even more further off that they're going to see the worst in what the other person does or says. Yeah. That's really what's happening. Cause I can like, he sees her diving into work as like a personal attack and she sees him like questioning her schedule as an attack on her accomplishments. Like no, So when her diving into work, like for him, it's like, well, he's right to feel like, but what, like, are we going to get married? Are we going to have kids? Like those things can happen. Like that's fair. But then for her, it's so fair to be like, of course I'm going to do these things.

57:38This is a huge moment. But also this is a huge moment for me. Yeah. No, like this is what I've been working for. Like, this is my dream. How can you, what do you mean? You're my flags upside down. Claudia. When will you understand? When will you understand? Like, what if this clip goes viral and they don't know what show this is because they have to look upside down at their phone? You know, thank you. You're not on this camera? No, because you're the one being so funny and on point. Well, not when I'm interrupted. Well, maybe your mic flag wasn't upside down. But it's all good. Continue. I don't know what I'm saying.

58:13One question that Andy asked Amanda on What Happens Live that I thought was such a good point that I never thought about was about Hannah Burner. And he was like, so have you never been to a Giggly Squad show? She was like, no. That's weird. I know but and I actually really appreciated her answer she's like I'm not even gonna ask like that's Hannah's thing first of all it's half Hannah um so my presence like would unnerve her and it's like her thing so I don't want to make her uncomfortable but also like it definitely puts Paige in a weird spot too because Paige is gonna be like Hannah my friend Amanda wants to come like it's but I thought it was so interesting that she hadn't been yet but then it's also weird that she's not like been there for Paige one time to support her show even though I know she supports her but like that's really weird i know and then andy asked like a bunch of follow-up questions about hannah and i find it really interesting how kyle and amanda talk about hannah now they're like it's very much they're the kim kardashian and hannah's the tailor they're like over it like we wish her the best like she's crushing it like she's so happy and i'm sure if you asked hannah which she'd never go and watch happens live but like if she was in the same spot like i don't think she looks back as rose-colored glasses as they do like that was really i think a very very hard traumatic time for her yeah but they're all like well we you know we wish her the best i'm just sure i wish them the best because it keeps coming up like i really want to watch it because i don't understand and i'm just like why can't hannah and amanda make up even if hannah doesn't ever want to talk to kyle again yeah like they can't they can't also i thought that was interesting on watch time and slide like a lot of the questions about craig and any like shady answers like more so came from sierra because like amanda's really not in a position to be critiquing relationships or like you know partners and how supportive they are and I think that's actually very self-aware of her she was not being like overtly critical of Craig like when she was like oh he was blinded by love like her answers I think because if she started pointing fingers that's like not a game you want to play when your husband is Kyle no and when you can see how the things that we see on TV might not be representative of the issues in your relationship for better or for worse like of course we see that conversation between page page and craig and we're like oh doomsday is coming but like if they hadn't broken up six months later and they know then they've had conversations like that over the last five years on summer house and now this time it's like oh well of course they broke up but in the past it's like they're working through their issues yeah so i think amanda can understand how a conversation like that is on tv but we're working through our issues right right um in terms of the actual episode i thought it was a great episode i was cracking up i have you ever heard of putting like a birthday cake in the oven no to to store to me like i couldn't because when they were cleaning up they had this like birthday cake it was from magnolia bakery and i don't think there was space in the fridge and like do you put a cake in the fridge it's like half eaten and gabby was like no you put in the oven with the oven off yeah yeah yeah but still it doesn't store it in the oven coldness because it has dairy i don't know you wouldn't put milk in the oven like you You wouldn't put milk on the counter even.

1:01:09I was cracking up. Why not just leave it on the counter? The oven is warmer. Because like the counter, like the elements, I don't know. The oven is warmer and you don't want your warm dairy. I was like, is that a thing people do with birthday cakes? I don't think so. To me, it makes no sense. But let us know. I mean, it would be great to, because like that's like a little second fridge, but that doesn't make sense because it's dairy. Oh, one thing that bothered me on Watched Happens Live and in reference to the episode, because there was that moment between Jesse and Sierra where he was like being flirty, your thighs turning me on, whatever.

1:01:40And then Andy was like, Sierra, would you ever like be interested in Jesse? And Amanda's like, yes, yes, yes. And Sierra's like, ah, ah. And it's like, that's the type of behavior like you hated that Wes did, you know, like going through multiple girls in the house. You hated when Austin did it. I feel like if I'm Lexi, I'm so annoyed at this whole thing. And the fact that like that thing happened on the episode last night and Sierra did nothing wrong in the episode. I thought she actually like, he was being kind of weird and she behaved appropriately. but like now on Watch Out and Side like egging it on and being like yeah we ship it's like well that's what we've been yelling at Wes for like that you didn't like and now you're kind of participating in the same exact behavior yeah yeah and Jesse and Lexi are not together right now right I don't know I know nothing it'd be like a big mystery right but it really is Jesse Sierra thing like keeps continuing because next week it looks like they have a conversation about like why didn't we ever give it a shot right and he was like i let west just sort of like i don't know but i'm gonna give jesse the benefit of the doubt that like because like this week he really had his head aside from the leg and the humping like when he was in the gym he was saying all the right things i don't want my head turn like i'm alexi i miss her i'm having fun with my boys but i miss her so maybe he can hold on to that for a few more hours at the party at the gym when he said that and then kyle was like yeah but if you don't have the exclusivity clause yet why don't you use this party while lexi's out of town to like meet and talk to some girls has there ever been worse advice given to anybody there's never somebody who's married there's literally never been worse advice because i was like i was like i wanted to shake jesse like don't do that's not a way to get one more bang and that's a way to make sure you and lexi never become exclusive some of the worst fucking advice i mean not shocking the worst advice yeah also something funny because it reminded me when carl so this is almost a year ago he's talking about Softbar, which still hasn't launched.

1:03:29And then Andy on Watch Rappens Live was talking to Amanda about her swimsuits and was like, and Amanda, I just want to congratulate you for being the first Bravo star in history to line up a product launch with the season airing. You're talking about the swimsuits and you can buy the swimsuits now. It's kind of brilliant. And it was so funny. And then I actually felt like it was a direct dig at Softbar. Yeah. Like they don't still don't have a bar. Dig at Softbar. I think he's still mad at Austin Kroll for not getting Trap Hop off the ground after like right seasons of promotion and like then at the reunion and he's like so where can you buy it he's like not yet yeah yeah um yeah that's really funny and then of course spring summer joggers she by shire of course of course yeah um okay so the episode uh they had this big pirate party that like carl's taking really seriously for some reason because he has this girl coming who seems really cute she does and and because lindsey's not there so it's like this is carl's bat mitzvah which makes it weirder just be normal you know like just go to a party and like it doesn't have to be so much pressure i know it's carl everything carl does i don't know if it's like these days post lindsey i don't necessarily always remember feeling this way about him but like everything he does is just like this pathetic aura to it but i think he also i think maybe like he's inherently like that but then he also like heaps it on because i think he like wants us to forget that he ended the engagement, that Lindsay was going to marry him.

1:04:48He is the reason why they're not married and why she's not carrying his child. So I guess it's a good way to make us forget that. Because otherwise he's the villain. And I don't feel him as a villain because of the way that he carries himself. Yes, sad sack. He wants to be seen as the victim. Sad sack, celibate, haven't had sex in a year. Why? You broke up with a girl. No, and he thinks it helps him that Lindsay moved on so quickly and that she's pregnant because he's still here. Like, I'm celibate. Right. And literally acting like he got broken up with. I don't think anybody is falling for it.

1:05:19However, it has helped in, like, neutralizing any strong opinions that I had. Like, listen, bro, just go talk to your lemur girl, okay? No, yeah, he's so pathetic. Like, that's the word. And even when she, like, gave him a compliment and she was like, you look like a lemur. Okay, I'll go kill myself. Like, it's like, he's so... But she likes lemurs. No, I know. And it's like, even, like, the good things in his life, like this girl complimenting him like they're sad and like is that girl gonna stay at the house that was a bad idea terrible when he said are you staying here i thought he meant like in the hamptons i should hope so what you drive three hours for a party with a pirate ship maybe like it was just no that's no did you pack a bag do you have clean undies no um so yeah it was like a big moment for Carl for some reason this party.

1:06:10And what else happened? I did not understand why Amanda and Sierra were dressed as birds. Because like pirates have birds with them. Like a parrot. Right. So when they took the picture and Sierra had I mean Paige had both of them on her arms. I then understood the parrot. But Sierra was dressed as a seagull. Maybe she was like a dove. No I think she said I'm a seagull. I think they could also have seagulls. Maybe it's not only pirates. No, I think it is. Like, that's the shtick. That's like one person's shtick, maybe from like Pirates of the Caribbean. Right, right. Let me see. Pirate birds. Oh, also, I feel like now because they're broken up and we know that like Amanda, I mean, Paige is like very much team lover boy.

1:06:57It's not surprising. But when you're watching the episode, just like for where they are in their relationship, it's like very clear that Craig Paige is mad at Craig for like getting into this fight with Kyle and she's like annoyed that that they're here because of him like she's not on his side which now makes sense but at the time it's like well that's your man you know yeah and she's like it's interesting how the primary feeling she's feeling is like annoyed at him I know but it's also like the issue I think regardless of like our personal in like it's so hard we have to take ourselves out of it actually when I'm watching this they blur out it's like I actually don't feel like attached to it in the moment so the issue is that like Kyle has completely co-opted the show with Loverboy and why can't seriously why can't anyone on the cast let alone a castmate's boyfriend do anything with any other alcohol or canned cocktail company like why that's not right so even though it's very inconvenient for Paige that Craig went and did this yes and it's gonna cause a bragus with Kyle and Amanda and that's very inconvenient and I don't want we don't want to fight with our friends they're wrong for asserting that it has to be this way and only this way and nobody else whether they're cast members or not can do something with another brand like what you're not paying people no at its core and that's what's so interesting you know jesse solomon did like a big truly ad the other day i i feel like at some point kyle has to like just start to act no i feel like kyle literally i think kyle facilitated the deal to be like i I didn't get Hattah fired for doing something with Truly.

1:08:25I love Truly and White Claw. Like, I feel like he's now, because that's what's being said about Kyle, and that's what bothers him so much. That's why he was texting Paige. I didn't get Hattah fired because she didn't add with another drink company. It's like this thing that people know about Kyle, and it bothers him that people know it. So I feel like he told Jessie to do it. So why would he behave the same way with Spritz? Say that again? Why would he behave the same way about Spritz? Like, why would he pretend to be cool with it? He didn't feel that way at the time. Like, the Truly thing happened, and then the Spritz thing happened, and then after the Spritz thing happened, everybody brought up the Hannah Truly thing again.

1:08:55So it became this like big narrative about Kyle. And a pattern. And now he's trying to pretend like it's not a pattern. So now I think he's trying to, I wouldn't be surprised if he went to Truly and said, my friend Jesse needs a deal. Like just to counteract the narrative about him. Got it. Got it. Like I'm sure Jesse did that with complete approval. Yeah. That's really interesting. But yeah, I just think it's crazy that there's this expectation of exclusivity for literally everyone in their orbit and only they're allowed to make money on canned cocktails and no one else can work in this huge space.

1:09:23And Craig was funny in the car about Kendall and Kyle. It's such a random example, but so true. Yeah, it was a random example, but it was hilarious. He's so funny. He's so funny. And then I thought that we were going to get like the Craig versus Kyle fight last night, but it's next week, so. Yeah, and I think it was fair that like Craig didn't want to have the fight the first night. No, also the vibe that I was getting was that if they were going to talk about it, they were going to talk about it right there at the table with everybody around, which is really not productive. Yeah, and that's not like an in the weeds conversation.

1:09:56It's just like, man, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. He has ish. Well, that's what Kyle thinks. Kyle thinks it's just going to be like, bro, I didn't mean to. Bro, I'm sorry. And Craig is actually like a very emotional person. And so I think, you know, us having this conversation after a long day in the middle of the table with everybody, there's no room for nuance. And I think Craig has a lot more to say than I think Kyle's expecting. Yeah, I agree. so southern charm recap from jackie oh tomorrow i have to watch i'm so excited yeah and you did recap last week so i didn't and something crazy happened that i just wanted to mention oh vanita and jt the girls are fighting oh my god i saw vanita making a lot of news and the five thousand dollars yes five thousand dollars okay because like vanita has actually been vindicated because i told this to ben but i need to tell it to you because remember when jt said like i don't want to date you I have a girlfriend yeah then they went to the Bahamas and he's like crying because he's fighting with everyone and she goes up to his room and she's like putting the moves on him and he's like says in his confessional how she's like throwing herself at him and it's really hard to say no but he has a girlfriend and she's like I want JT I love JT me and JT it's really crazy and then she posted in her Instagram story the conversation where he told her that he has a girlfriend happened after the Bahamas and they aired it before the Bahamas and made her look really stupid wait that's like really evil yeah really evil so I was glad that she cleared her name and I was like okay we can't like trust everything but we know that it's tv but like okay Vanita like isn't hasn't lost her damn mind wait I feel so bad for her that's so embarrassing but she really cleared her name and like people had moved on from it and so JT like there was this like the thing with the barber oh my god it was like so crazy remember when I told you that someone goes to the same barber as JT and then the barber um told I told you in the preview for next week someone goes to the same barber as JT a random guy named Ryan I don't even know who he is why he's on the show but he said that JT said to the barber something and then he told it to Levin we're like waiting to see what it was and it was really crazy he said that the barber said that JT said was talking about the show in the season and that like some black girl keeps coming on to me oh yeah and JT is flipping when Leva tells him this and like Leva and Vanita hear this and they're like that's not JT like we know him he doesn't talk like that he's a good person right is the person that we know like not the barber make it up so JT calls the barber on the spot he was like did I say this and the barber was like no but I was saying to write he was like that might have been the way that I said it retold it told it but that's not how you said it but it was like it was literally five minutes where it just goes from like all the way up to like oh it's nothing all the way down jt did not say he's like not he like that totally vindicated but i i feel like he's gonna quit the show and everyone says that he's gonna quit the show and that might have been something and anyways then something happened where vanita said like oh really you weren't spending five thousand dollars on me take me out when i'm not your girlfriend she said something like that on her instagram and then he was like no you paid for my suit because i was using a cane i left my credit card in the car and i paid you back and i know and like here's the exact amount dollars and cents like she made it seem like he was like whining and dining her and like paying her oh that's bad yeah bad look but i'm gonna hold space for the next truth because that's what keeps happening where it's like wait that looks crazy even with the jt thing i'm like what how can he come out how can this not be true what ryan's liar why would ryan lie and they say ryan's husband is black why would he just make this up right it was just like a bad game of telephone yikes yeah poor vanita poor vanita and she's like in her bed she's like waiting to hear the truth like is my friend a horrible like i felt so bad for he felt so bad for it was just like a really bad moment and for nothing because it didn't happen well i can't tell you how much i'm enjoying the season of southern charm through your eyes you know so i'll let you know what happens at the finale party molly is gonna kiss shep though it doesn't look so romantic craig will give us the update on the breakup even though i don't think anything we're gonna see tonight is something we don't know already i feel like i agree i feel like they've really teased everything.

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