Lexi Truthers: Thursday, April 9th, 2026

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27:25No. You haven't seen these pictures? I saw that and I thought it was Bill Belichick. No. So he is. Explain to me like why, like who are the players and why I care.

27:36Claudia Oshry:He's the head coach for the Patriots. Okay. So like formerly Bill Belichick. The new Bill Belichick. Yeah. The new Bill Belichick. So that's a big job. Oh, and then remind me to tell you about what happened with Alex Earl. She used to be an anchor on ESPN SportsCenter, and now she works for the New York Times' NFL publication called The Athletic. That everyone reads. Right. But anyway, she's a big sportscaster in the NFL. He's a coach. They were spotted together in Sedona, like holding hands, and then sitting poolside together. They are both married. Also. Who would recognize these people enough to take a picture of them?

28:13Claudia, and the person who recognized them and took pictures has pictures of them all over the hotel. Like, when she sees them from afar, she takes a picture. And then also—

28:21Claudia Oshry:How do you know it's a woman? Because it's a woman. And when the lady walks past her at the pool, she takes a picture. Look. Look at this. She's obviously a lounge chair. And then, now old clips are resurfacing of, like, this lady. Oh, I saw this on Liz Wood's story. And I just thought it was a funny clip, like, somewhat recent. So I was cracking up. But now I understand. she has a long history of like degrading her husband publicly right she old clips are resurfacing of like things that she used to say about him on her show when she was on sports center just saying how he's like average and ugly and a loser yeah like really she joked about her marriage falling apart she's like kind of crazy yeah yeah um and now it seems as though she's stepping out on her mans with like someone else in the sports world which makes it like a scandal for people it's giving amy and tj yeah it is yeah thanks for supporting my call you're welcome this is so funny okay I like I've seen all the content that you just referenced I did not know

29:14Jackie Oshry:how they were like what the backstory was wait can I quickly tell you Alex Earl I meant to tell you this sure so she did a get ready with me like two days ago being like get ready with me to go on a first date and yeah I thought it was like shockingly um she's so authentic she's so yeah um and then she did like an un get ready with me and a sleigh because this video was so interesting and she was doing her whole skincare routine with reality yeah um but she was basically saying how she doesn't think there's going to be a second date uh but i told the story of this like very strange date it was at like 3 30 um and she had plans that night like so he came and picked her up and was like dinner's at 7 30 in malibu and she's like oh i like it's like a day date like i have stuff to do tonight i mean he was like but i'm so hungry right now and she was like okay i'm not that hungry and he like took her to starbucks no she was like i got like a coffee and like he got a croissant or something and then we were just like driving around malibu like the plan was like to go to malibu and like walk on the beach a little bit and like hang out and then like have dinner or have a meal like the timing was weird it sounds like she didn't have her schedule on lock either like no no he was just very loose with it and she was like i have a date at 3 30 i can go out that night yeah so and it's in malibu so she like tells the story he's like driving around she's like just driving and he's driving further and further away from and she was like are we going somewhere like we're driving really far he's like oh no no I'm just like driving and then she started to get a little scared she was like I'm like in a car with a strange man she was like we should like do something like go to a farmer's market or whatever um I actually didn't finish watching the video because like something happened but I just thought it was so funny that this guy took her to Starbucks and you're telling me none of you saw Alex Earl and this random at Starbucks and took a picture so then I was actually going to put it out on my Instagram but like I didn't want to be a drama like I need like on a biblical level I need to know who this day was because obviously it was someone high profile whether it's an individual who's wealthy or a celebrity.

31:06Jackie Oshry:And like Dumas, if you are worth your salt, you will find out who the fuck this is. A hundred percent. I just like need to know the kind of guys that she's dating. Don't call yourself Dumas if you can't find out. I'm being dead serious. And maybe she like got a tip. Like Alex Earl spotted with like random, you know, tech startup guy at Starbucks. And she was like, no, she fucking does it. No, she was like, I don't believe you. Because it's not believable. And the comments were like, girl, this is a bad date, even for like our standards, like regular people. This is a Starbucks. it was really crazy i thought it was crazy that she was like talking about it so publicly that's store books and then it ended up being this like catastrophic date oh my god well she definitely doesn't want a second date because he's obviously gonna see that and he wouldn't want to go out with her again either knowing that she spilled the beans yeah so she doesn't care i often wonder about people who make like dating content how you can like genuinely show your face no you can't

32:01Claudia Oshry:show your face and if you ever do wind up liking someone then your content is done like unless that person's thirsty and it's like happy to be a part of it but like who are you unless let me introduce you to someone who i know you don't know her name is danielle walters i i don't know and i just want to say like i will like defend this girl till i die tell me what she did she did a lot of like single girl dating content like very from the pov of like hopeless romantic right like you know really looking for a knight in shining armor a prince charming whatever and she goes on dates and recaps them while she does her makeup talks about like this guy that guy she never says their name she's like oh the guy from starbucks or whatever um and people were just like along for the journey because it was very relatable just like this hopeless romantic like normal nice girl looking for a normal nice guy and just like not being able to do that yeah and just like funny dating hijinks and then she started dating this guy and it moved very quickly um and as she was sharing like date number one date number two and she would you know share a lot about like milestones and like when you say I love you and like people were really taken aback at the speed in which the whole thing was happening and they were taking things that she said being like he's love bombing you he's abusive you know like the way people just the way they do run with things and she was like a decently popular tiktoker but this particular relationship that she got into and

33:13Jackie Oshry:then documenting it um really put her on a level of like like the wrong side of the internet and she became so deeply hated like reddit hate accounts but like literally in in fucking zane and it kind of blew up this like her and her boyfriend she's like i have a boyfriend like it was so cute and sweet whatever then she disappeared for like a couple of weeks slash months and then she comes back and her content is very highly produced so she comes back with this this series and she's like sitting on a park bench and she introduces everyone to her boyfriend i don't have to tell you the threads i met him once yada yada he's just a guy like i don't know anything about him i think he used to be an uber driver they say he's like really thirsty and famous like who fucking cares um they just got engaged okay I don't know and end to end how long it's been it's obviously like a fast-moving relationship but she's a woman of a certain age like she doesn't give a fuck and she like you know she does things her own way like she knew she was getting engaged and I kind of set a date for it um they're very intentional with each other they're like deeply in love um why did I bring this up you said because I don't know I said how can you get out of that doing that sort of content when you find a real relationship because who would want to be like well now he's a part of it and i think he also was like a little content creator before also he's a little thirsty okay so that's what i said you have to be with a thirst monster yeah no and just like seriously leave her alone like it's so mean thirst monsters need love too just because someone is a thirst monster which like a lot of like men are especially

34:37Claudia Oshry:of women who are reality stars like doesn't mean they can't also be a decent partner

34:44Jackie Oshry:agreed and it's like i'm thirsty i'm a good person i'm a thirsty person like what's wrong thirsty is just a like a a code word for networking like i'm sorry if he was a c-speed executive moving like that like you guys wouldn't think twice of it just because it's on the internet

34:55Claudia Oshry:if he's using you if he doesn't love you if he actually dislikes you and just like pretends like you've heard that's a different thing but like you have to have be with someone then who's like or you no longer do that sort of content or you're with someone who's like down to clown and up for that sort of lifestyle which not everyone is agreed so that's why it's kind of tough like when you actually do find a relationship, when you make that sort of content, or you even, not even a relationship, like someone you want to go on a third date with. It's like, wait, do I tell them about the last date?

35:23Claudia Oshry:What if he sees it and then he knows how I felt about our last date? That's what's weirder. Yeah, of course. I mean, I don't know if I'd be defending this girl if she wasn't getting so much. I have yet to hear what she's done wrong. It's insane. Let me look her up. She's just moving in ways in her relationship and her dating life that other people wouldn't. Like, okay. It's getting me jealous. It's getting me jealous. They think all of her content is so staged and fake, Even though she was up front with her audience being like, no, no, we planned when to get engaged. She's not hiding anything.

35:50It's just not how I would do it or it's not how someone else would do it.

35:53Jackie Oshry:That doesn't make it wrong. Yeah. She's like a sweet little girl. And she put a lot of wallpaper up in her house. That's how she got viral. She was doing all these crazy DIYs. She lives in a really cute apartment that she designed herself completely. I've gotten to the wallpaper stage. I just got past engagement. That's funny. I'm surprised she didn't come up for me because I look at everyone with wallpaper. Is she on reels? She's on reels. She's a real person. she's a real person for sure well mazel tov to her i don't see the problem yeah i don't see the problem either but i don't know how people like actually show their face when they like actively date it was like say you went on a first date with someone and you had a good time but your job is to like talk about your dates so you like made an instagram but the thing with alex earl is that it's actually not her job so she like actually yeah no i'm not saying you have to do

36:36Claudia Oshry:like someone else and then you make a video like i just had a great first date he's like this and that and then he saw that i would die i would seriously die no no seriously it's like that one time i made a vine about ben you know i never recovered from it i'm still talking about it 15 years later yeah but you kind of like slayed slayed i would say you slayed in despite like not because of my digital footprint a thousand percent okay back to this um like nfl drama everyone like wants the next astronomer wants the next dj name me now this is the genre of the sports world sure i'm just like not in the mood today i know i know and because i didn't even know of one of these people not a name not a nothing i can't now care i can't now like and that would be so phony be like outrage how could mike for able to do that to his beloved i don't know mike for able maybe i don't know these people maybe this is my plate maybe he does it all the time that's like a lot of the rhetoric on skamand of all right now where it's like oh i don't know the players like can somebody catch me up it's like no sorry like we've put in the work and if you don't know the players you will never understand why it is so significant because when I say oh it's her friend's ex-boyfriend from two years ago they dated for six months and now she just got divorced and now she started dating him like okay that's kind of kosher like a little but it's about the fact that her whole shtick when she didn't have a lot on the show aside from her marriage was like girl coat in the bed girls crying Sierra like you had to have watched that over and over again every week for the last two years to understand why such a betrayal it's so true like and actually bethany is kind of in hot water because she was doing press and was asked about it and she obviously doesn't know like deep the lore she's like what's the big deal a castmate dated another castmate's boyfriend who she dated for a couple of months yeah yeah and it's like well it's so much deeper than that bethany but okay i saw bethany's take and that's obviously not my take but like i appreciate the take i first of all i like when people say different stuff and i especially like when it's not popular like it doesn't mean that she's right or wrong or we all have to like be like oh how could she say that's what she thinks great no i also gather that like she doesn't actually know the context actually knew because even when you know like no one committed any crimes there's no adultery here it's just bad form and it's bad friendship it's just shocking it's just shocking is what it is it's just shocking and then also and i just want to say the label of amanda like and i agree with you what you said like her whole thing was girls girls girls that was such a false label nobody was meaner to the new girls like why did every new girl become friends with lindsay i don't even think gabby hello gabby i don't think she was mean to the new girls i just think she was like a little bit she's a it's funny how like

39:05Jackie Oshry:just like standoff she was like you have to fend for yourself yeah and i felt like even with lexi

39:09Claudia Oshry:she kind of was lexi's connection to the house and then she like didn't have lexi's back and i forget what happened in the scene on the porch where she's like telling lexi what jesse had said about her like something like that's upsetting to lexi and i just felt like she didn't have her back comfort her and then when she saw like things weren't going like in the way of lexi like no she didn't support Lexi at all Lexi had no one and Amanda was the her connection to the house like I don't think she was mean to the mean girls I just like don't think that she ever was like hey I'm Amanda like let's make you feel warm and cozy no she was never welcoming she was never welcoming it was very much like fend for yourself like if Paige and Sierra had been welcoming then she would have been welcoming I just want to say when Paige and Sierra were welcoming she was welcoming Paige and Sierra were not where everyone's like opening up old wounds about like

39:48Jackie Oshry:Hannah and Jules and I don't see enough people talking about Lexi we are Lexi truthers and I I can't even look at fucking Jesse Solomon because of it. Like it bothers me so much. Not enough people are talking about Lexi.

40:01Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

40:01Jackie Oshry:The girls were awful to her. Like Amanda specifically. Yeah.

40:04Claudia Oshry:And just like gaslighting her that she's crazy for wanting like her man to be appropriate around them. Because now we know like all this flirting. It's not brother, sister. Oh, absolutely. Lexi clocked it first. How inappropriate everybody acts. You're sucking on Sierra's toe or whoever. Whose toe was it? A random. Oh, even worse. A random toe. Yeah, that's weird. Everyone in this house is brainwashed into like fornicating with their friends. No, like laying on top of each other in the bed, in the pool, in your bathing suit. With the legs. And like it's not weird. It is. She was right for saying like Jesse obviously feels some sort of way about Sierra because this season he said he wanted to make out with Sierra, which I don't think you would make out with your sister.

40:42Claudia Oshry:And she was also right for saying all these close friendships like it's a little bit concerning because look, Amanda and my best friends, brother, sister. Brother, sister. Mm-hmm. justice for Lexi and it's not just Jessie that I'm mad at I'm mad at Bravo because she should have been there this season to like have a redemption have a career like they just brought her on this show ruined her life broke her heart and said go in the garbage can bye it's so true the network like so left her hanging out to dry after she like I know she also liked Jessie back so it worked out but he gave her no choice but to date him like he so aggressively pursued her opted her time like was on top of her and she likes him and thought he was cute so like great but like just totally took advantage of her life agreed oh it makes me sick let's talk about Lexi let's talk about Lexi next I guess we have to be like what the jewels truthers have been the Lexi truthers yeah yeah next let's talk about Summer House actually because Kyle Cook is sharing a little bit of a lover boy update as he cashes in on Wes Mandeville you know what else I was thinking carl's a mess is the send it to daryl of yes west mandeval it's also like the goodbye kyle of like lisa vander yeah but like lala can't literally bought a house off of send with that merch and now carl's a mess is gonna save lover boy i believe they have carl's a mess merch they do they do and he made a video i guess everyone's been like buying merch and supporting lover boy I hope Carl gets a piece of that.

42:18Claudia Oshry:I feel like he will, because also this season has been a lot about how Kyle hasn't supported Carl. And I feel like even if he takes a piece of that merchant, invests it in soft bar, like he absolutely has to, or he's the biggest idiot on the planet. Like, yeah, this is an alley. You like slam dunk. Yeah. Slam dunk opportunity. Like I would actually wear a sweatshirt that says Carl's mess. I think it's so funny. I thought goodbye to Daryl was like, no, send it to Daryl was really forced. I didn't think it was like a funny, I think like I watched a video. I was impact unimpacted by what she said.

42:46And then everybody started saying send it to Daryl. And I was like, it just felt so forced being like send it to Daryl. But this is so genuinely funny. Carl's a mess. Like hilarious. I would wear a sweatshirt. Wow. You've really done an about face. No. On Kyle. Well, it's hard to like hate someone who's like such a loser. Like, yeah, he's just not threatening to me anymore.

43:11Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Also, I think lover boy is like doing better. I'm surprised they even made it from the summer until now, given how he was talking about Loverboy's financials. He said they had six months, and it's been more than six months since the end of August. I guess people are, like, buying Loverboy and buying merch right now. But I don't think they've been actively dropping new products. I think, like, they sell in a bunch of stores. And they're, like, sunsetting a little bit. Yeah, yeah, and I think they probably got a bunch of online orders. I hope this doesn't encourage him to, like, keep it going, though.

43:38Claudia Oshry:Because, like, this will fade, and then he's, like, back to what he had before. And I just, like, it would just be so weird to me if you're like oh Amanda is hooking up with West let me buy a lover boy like no but people do I mean that's what happened with Spritz what Craig Craig 20 oh yeah no but we had lunch a new flavor like it was actually about like the product no we had it the Craig flavor yeah but that's not what Craig 20 was about the drama well no we were giving you a discount but we're giving you a discount so buy it because there's a discount right not just like amanda but also to support craig from the slander yeah no but it was also like we're running a promotion bravo fans do we're running a promotion based on so yeah oh i can get this on sale great but this is like i didn't want lover boy for the last six years but now that amanda has hooked up with wes i want to give me one of those espresso martini margarita teas they have such crazy flavors it's just funny But yeah, I guess that's just the circle of life and happy for Kyle.

44:40Who would have ever thought? Who would have? And it's so funny because watching the new episodes, like he's acting like so awful, whatever. I don't know. I'm just like genuinely unfazed by it where you actually make me so mad. But now it's like, well, no, she was obviously awful.

44:56Claudia Oshry:So it's just it's so hard. And like two episodes ago when he told her, fuck you, which was obviously so wrong. and I will condemn that every time. He says in his confessional, like all these guys in the house like say that they're here for me, they're here for me. But it's like, if you're really here for me, you would tell her to like stop like giving you guys all this attention and give some attention to her husband. And when he said that, it was before Wes Mandeville and everyone's like, Kyle's so terrible. But like now knowing like what she's capable of, it's actually sort of prophetic what she said.

45:22And I feel like no one's really willing to hear him out. So you don't even like, you don't even ingest what he says. But like even before Wes Mandeville, I think we all could have agreed. Like she does spend a lot of time with the other guys she's very flirty and touchy and it's like well yeah i could see your husband no matter how awful he is being annoyed that like not only are you not spending time with him but

45:41Claudia Oshry:you're like all over these other guys if we had said that before west mandeval we would have been so fucking canceled i know i know which is just a good reminder that like you should say the truth even like not that i felt like saying that then i wasn't really thinking about them that much but it's just a good reminder like say your truth before it becomes so painfully obvious Right, like you couldn't defend Kyle. No, you couldn't. And like, you really should, he told his wife, fuck you, but like, he had some points and they were just all, they were all lost by the way that he acted too, but like.

46:11It's not the message, it's the delivery.

46:12Claudia Oshry:You could have never, ever said that before. Like, you couldn't have never said, well, maybe Amanda's not like the most like amazing wife because he was a worse husband. Yeah. What came first, the chicken or the egg? They're both still true. And it's also crazy how now that the like gates are open because she like except with us like now people can say like the nastiest fucking shit about her and it's like that's not nice either. No people are taking it too far like calm down. Like a bathing suit. Yeah like calm down. The bathing suit. Child's dad. Gobbling it up. Eating it up. Hailey Beecher.

46:44The reincarnation of Hailey Beecher. Like shut up. Yeah no like the Bravo fandom is so fickle. Like it's crazy. It's so scary. It's so scary. Yeah I mean hyping up like Oliver Press Amanda fucking Matula. Right. Like literally our automatics slay mama. Yeah.

47:04Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our next story? The housemate author, Freda McFadden reveals her true identity after living a double life for 23 years. So Freda McFadden is finally dropping the disguise and the double life. She revealed on Wednesday, her real name, which is Sarah Cohen, and that she's a New York born doctor who treated brain disorders as she has built a publishing empire over the last 23 years. So she did an interview with USA today saying, I'm at a point in my career where I'm tired of this being a secret. I'm tired of people debating if I'm a real person or if I'm three men. I am a real person and I have a real identity and I don't have anything to hide.

47:39Okay, so like I love this, but I feel like I knew this. I saw there was a picture of her. Yeah, I've seen this picture of her. I've seen pictures, but I guess we never knew her biological government name. She always like she attended the red carpets for her books and stuff, but she wore a wig. Yes. Yeah, and she's like wearing the same hair and glasses in this interview.

48:02Claudia Oshry:Yeah, so maybe that's just her hair. She said, I have no idea how to style my hair. Cracking up. So maybe she's wearing a wig. We also didn't know that she was a brain surgeon. I thought she was like a psychologist. I knew she was something, like a doctor. Like a brain doctor. Maybe that could be a psychologist or a brain surgeon. I just want to say. It's so true. She treats brain disorders. I'm cracking up. She's a psychologist. She's not a surgeon. I'm cracking up yeah that's what I thought like a very very high level she treats like very disturbed individuals we knew that yeah so all of this I knew yeah so I didn't know her real name which like I guess I didn't know that she was a Jew now I won't read her books now I won't read her books cause she's a Jew clip it yeah I won't read that Jews books

48:52I feel like Mark Ruffalo how does it feel powerful yeah yeah um so like congrats i thought we knew this but congrats congrats too

49:19oh my god you sound so funny like i'm seriously cracking can we still call her freedom mcfadden though like what's she gonna publish your next book That's what I was going to ask. Are they still Frida Rita's?

49:32Jackie Oshry:I think that she has to keep her name. It's Frida McFadden. But does a pen name only serve when they don't know your identity?

49:42Claudia Oshry:No, like I feel like pen names still serve. Like Lemony Snicket. Yeah, I think she should keep it. It's also such a great name. And like I want to read Twisted Thrillers from Frida McFadden. Not from Sarah Cohen. some random Jew Jew

50:02yeah I'm all set I like how she made herself Irish like what do you she's sick oh Frida McFadden Frida Frida McFadden she's like that's such like so opposite yeah I mean maybe she was on to something would you think she could have had had the success as a Jew I have a pen name Codejourner's Truth Charlie Lefriwish That's not your name Nobody calls you that It's just my name No your name is Cojourner Turdy Lou Everybody calls me Turdy Your name is Turdy Lou When I get stabbed in the street Turdy Turdy Lou Yeah And even friends of mine Call me Of course Everybody Sisters And you know I've always wanted a nickname I just love it so much And you're turt Sure Really turt Really turt Yeah Yeah.

50:56Really Jew. Well, anyways, I'm happy for Frida that she feels unburdened by the thing that we didn't know was burdening her.

51:05Claudia Oshry:She's putting the free in Frida. Yeah, she's free. But I guess like for like, you know, uncultured swine, they didn't know. But like, we're so close to it. Like we've read every book. Like we didn't know this because we also like see her picture when we go on Goodreads and we click the book. So like, yeah, she had to like put herself out there for like probably new fans of the housemaid, people who only watch movies and don't read books. Right. Yeah. So now you know.

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56:04Claudia Oshry:spencer pratt's la mayoral bid so the new laguna beach old reunion on roku is coming out soon they're doing press and steven kristin and lauren which is so crazy they were all on it's insane the today show with jenna bus hager and cheneal jones they were asked if they would vote for Spencer great question yeah um Lauren responded I'm not a resident of LA and Stephen said we live in Orange County uh Kristen said I've seen it everywhere I can't get away from it she said I don't live in LA either but I think he's on to something we'll see what happens I will always have a soft spot for Spencer she then then the the host inquired whether Lauren and Spencer have since squashed their beef from their time on the show and like Lauren she said she was confused she was like looking at Kristen and then and didn't answer and she then she was like oh I didn't know the question was for her she thought it was for someone else and like didn't answer and then she said you're asking me about people I haven't spoken to in decades agreeing that she doesn't care at this point I mean the refreshing thing about Lauren Conrad is she's probably one of the only people from reality TV who has a genuinely no interest in ever being on TV again she's completely not media trained so it's very refreshing to like just hear a normal person talk she was on Kristen Cavallari's podcast talking just about like you know her decision to do the Roku thing and her obsession with like not wanting to be famous and how her time during the hills I guess it was just like so successful all the different ventures like the books and the shows that she just doesn't have to work and she's so blessed because she just like lives with her family and she hangs out with her friends and that's exactly how she wants it it's just like it's so unbelievable to Kristen Cavallari who's like the total opposite who's been like hustling from the second that the show ended.

57:47And it's just two totally different girls with two totally different perspectives. So this question is just like, you're not gonna get like a media trained. I wonder if like somebody even briefed Lauren on like that this might potentially come up a former castmate and like maybe, you know, to have like a more polished answer. And like, I do believe that she didn't think the question was for her because she's so not strategic.

58:07Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I also think she fucking hates him. Yeah. Still does, always will. Like you just never forget your first. and even though you think it's reality tv and it's 10 years later like to her like that's her roman empire like she's not moving on especially like why would she move on nothing's happened to make it better no and i actually think the beef is not even from the show because we know so much of the show was scripted and like maybe you know you're just young and yeah they thought he was a bad boyfriend but you know heidi and spencer have a great marriage so sex tape thing that what's she when they were fighting on the show it was um because like Heidi and Spencer she said Heidi and Spencer started a rumor that like she had a sex tape with Jason Waller that was out there and that's when she's like you know what you did oh that's really bad but I also was gonna say I think a lot of her resentment is things that Spencer has said long after the show yeah like he doesn't stop no and he like was trying to reverse psychology like Lauren's the villain trying to like turn people on lauren um and so i think a lot of it like maybe you can get past like teenage drama yeah the sex tape maybe not so much but i think a lot of it is like not even about the show it's about the years later like they kind of don't stop yeah that's true i don't know how much she sees of that but i think it's like just like that was like friendship ending for her and like nothing since then has like brought it back um but it is so interesting how she was able to like make i guess enough money from the show and like her her ventures afterwards because she still like works and like has her line that like Kohl's content just like that she set herself up so nicely to not have to work forever whereas like no one else has been able to really do that in reality tv well she probably like took the deals that other people didn't want you know you're on top of the world who wants to work with Kohl's right but she has a licensing line there for what 15 years now yeah like it's so smart and I think she makes mailbox money and yeah she does have instagram and i think she's like a little blog company whatever i don't think that's really what's paying the bills um no but she's like a

1:00:06Jackie Oshry:lifestyle influencer like yeah but she doesn't do like a million brand deals no but she used to

1:00:12Claudia Oshry:well she has to like you know have a brand out there in order for people like want to buy her stuff and certainly in the years after the hills she did like more like like she was like such a vibe you know the hair oh my god her books her coffee table books and like her braid and her hair and like the waves and the pinterest like a tumblr girl yeah and so like i think she actually is like a really great household name of like oh if you're telling me it's lauren conrad i know the vibes yes yes beachy california yeah yeah and she looks the same i want to watch her on kristin's podcast and i wonder why she decided to do the reunion she talks about it because

1:00:51she wants to put a pin in it forever. And so they were doing this with or without her. And so she felt like it was the perfect way to close the chapter because she gets a million opportunities over the years to do this. Yeah, the hills came back.

1:01:04Claudia Oshry:She didn't go on it. I think she had a very positive experience to doing Back to the Beach, which they spoke about on Kristen's podcast again.

1:01:11Jackie Oshry:And she thought this was like the perfect way to end it. It was happening. She didn't want to not be a part of it. and she's like and I'd never want to talk about it ever again okay and you know what I want to

1:01:21Claudia Oshry:watch it because now that I love Steven from Traders what a guy yeah what a guy um also our final story is some more like reality T OG reunion news how much did they pay them because Roni icons Bethany Ramona and Sonia have teamed up for a skincare advertisement and an iconic Yeah, they're doing a campaign together. They're doing a campaign together, but it's very big. So Roni, Legions, Bethany Frankel, Ramona Singer, and Sonia Morgan recently reunited in Paris to shoot a campaign for French skincare brand Rock's latest and most advanced anti-aging launch retinol correction deep wrinkle-rich cream.

1:02:02Claudia Oshry:They did like a whole sketch. It was like called The Reunion. And it was about like Bethany getting her friends ready to be back on TV. They're like, it's like, I guess it's scripted, but it's comedy. She's saying like so that they don't we need to get them looking good so they don't embarrass me. Like it was just so it literally felt like I was watching an old episode of Housewives. And what's funny is that they were spotted filming this in Paris. And I think everybody thought that Bethany was finally joining the golden years. Yeah. And that they've taken a group trip to Paris. And I thought that's what it was, too.

1:02:30And I was like, oh, my God, that's so funny. Like Bethany made a million videos saying how she would never do it. And then here she is.

1:02:35Jackie Oshry:I think this is a perfect way for her to engage. Obviously, they all probably got paid extremely handsomely.

1:02:39Claudia Oshry:that's always I imagine Bethany got paid so much for this because for her to like you know go back to doing like you know roni lore sort of stuff they're going to Paris there she's putting all of her like brand and endorsement behind the skincare line like I think this is a huge campaign for them yeah rock is also like a pargy skincare line and I feel like Bethany's really particular about like where she and so I think it's I think it's fabulous for everyone I'm sure Ramona and Sonia were thrilled. Yeah. And I also think it's so smart to like tap these women who have aged in the public eye, like very gracefully for 20 years.

1:03:14Claudia Oshry:Like you want to sell anti-aging cream, like get Ramona. I don't know if I would say very gracefully. Physically? Physically. Yeah. But not like behavior wise. I'm saying physically, like Ramona's in her seventies. It's insane. Right. Or she's in her sixties. Late sixties. Late sixties. If you want to advertise your anti-aging skincare line call Ramona Singer I can't think of someone who was a better endorsement for looking fabulous at any age looking ageless looking like someone rock should actually come out with a line in collaboration with her called ageless by Ramona Singer like I think that's it's such a great um yeah housewives don't get tapped enough because there are it's you know it's a show that focuses on older women and there are but and yeah of course they're all very open about the fact that they have work done which is fine but there are many women on the network who are like insane looking for their age and they should tap into that more yeah it's a huge market i feel like they you know everyone's like oh who's gen z but like don't forget about the anti-aging women who want don't forget the boomers with disposable income with spending power correct so i think this is really and i thought the sketches were so cute i couldn't believe that they got the three of them especially bethany to like participate I'm like the budget is massive.

1:04:29You know I appreciate that about Bethany. Like she you know stands where she stands and she says what she says but she can be bought. That's extremely relatable.

1:04:36Claudia Oshry:She can be bought but it has to be like really worth it. And I don't think she would do it for like any old skincare brand and any amount of money. So like I don't know I just feel like this is a ringing endorsement. It's really a sleigh. Yeah I enjoyed it very much. And the content was really good. It was making me nostalgic. and I'm like Bethany was like making them do TikTok so I was cracking up so funny and they're also like talking about skincare in between it's hysterical but it worked um and like Bethany has to go on the new show I'm sorry I know I know like I understand I do but I think not only do they need

1:05:12Jackie Oshry:it because she's so polarizing like something about her just grinds the fucking gears and maybe Kelly Benzmod would have to be escorted out and I think that would be fine oh because they don't talk like no i think bethany like actually would never film with kelly benson ever again and i would i would understand i would so like okay but i think she should do it like i do and this was just such a fun treat to watch and i think also maybe part of her hesitation is like i do think while she's okay with jill i think they've got like just tension that's what i'm saying so i think that i do think that they're fine like they'll say hi to one another but i do believe that they both like deeply deeply hate each other um and now jill's not on the show so bethany's your con oh okay because i'm like well if they hate like yeah like bethany's not at a place where she needs to put herself in situations like that like her whole thing now is like reality tv reckoning and she's very like anti-reality tv so i don't really know how that would all work but i also think they'll have like way more control over what they're doing versus when they were just starting out and like needed the show and would have done anything to like make it work it's just a playing field I hope she had a good experience with them on the skincare collab and maybe it'll be the motivation the motivation that she needs to join the show.

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