Lix and Brax with Margo Oshry: Monday, December 8th, 2025

8 Dec 2025 · 1 h 10 min

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Podcast Summary: The Toast - "Lix and Brax with Margo Oshry" (December 8, 2025)

Episode Overview In this episode of *The Toast*, hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry, along with guest co-host Margo Oshry, discuss a series of trending celebrity news topics. The episode covers recent breakups, celebrity interactions, and significant industry news, all while maintaining their signature humorous style.

Key Topics

  1. Alix Earle and Braxton Berrios Split (19:53)
  2. Overview: Alix Earle, a social media influencer, and NFL star Braxton Berrios have reportedly split after two years.
  3. Details:
  4. The split is described as mutual and distance-induced, with sources confirming the breakup to Page Six.
  5. Speculation arose as Earle was seen at Berrios’ house shortly after the news broke, leading to confusion about their status.
  1. Kelsea Ballerini’s Concert Incident (29:55)
  2. Overview: Kelsea Ballerini had a confrontational moment with a heckler during her concert in Sydney.
  3. Details:
  4. When a fan shouted “Team Morgan,” referring to her ex-husband Morgan Evans, Ballerini told the heckler to "f**k off."
  5. Ballerini later acknowledged the impact of her breakup on her music and expressed regret over some harsh lyrics in her songs.
  1. Keith Urban and Jennifer Lopez Dating Rumors (37:43)
  2. Overview: Reports suggest that Keith Urban and Jennifer Lopez may be dating.
  3. Details:
  4. The two have been friends since their time as judges on *American Idol* and have both experienced public breakups recently.
  5. Discussion around their compatibility due to their shared experiences.
  1. Paramount's Hostile Takeover Bid for Warner Bros. Discovery (44:33)
  2. Overview: Paramount has launched a hostile takeover bid for Warner Bros. Discovery.
  3. Details:
  4. This move is seen as an attempt to elevate Paramount's standing in the competitive streaming market.
  5. The hosts discussed the implications of such mergers in the entertainment industry.
  1. Taylor Swift at Chiefs vs. Texans Game (56:29)
  2. Overview: Taylor Swift attended an NFL game, bringing along friends Selena Gomez and Lena Dunham.
  3. Details:
  4. The episode touched on Swift's low-key public appearances and the reactions surrounding her presence at the game.

Highlights

  • Tension in Celebrity Relationships: The episode emphasizes the evolving dynamics in celebrity relationships, particularly the need for privacy and mutual respect in breakups, contrasting with public expectations for drama.
  • Fans and Celebrities: Ballerini's confrontation with a heckler sparked conversation about the boundaries between fans and performers, advocating for more respect at live events.
  • Industry Insights: The discussion on the hostile takeover encapsulates the competitive nature of the entertainment industry, focusing on the financial strategies big companies use to maintain relevance.

Key Takeaways

  • The hosts often reflect on the impact of social media on celebrity relationships, discussing how public perception can shape personal narratives.
  • Humor and camaraderie are central to the podcast's appeal, creating a relatable atmosphere while navigating complex topics in pop culture.
  • The merging of entertainment and business strategies in the industry highlights the need for audiences to stay informed about corporate actions that affect their favorite content.

Closing Remarks The episode concludes with the hosts expressing gratitude for the listeners and highlighting the ongoing engagement with their audience. They encourage listeners to subscribe and engage with the show's content across various platforms.

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0:27Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. Toast. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Monday. It's the final Monday of the final week of toast for the year 2025. And I'm kicking off the final week with one of our highly requested friends and family guest co-host. It's Sachi Lou Freebush. Satchi Lou Freebush, I did not have time this morning to post a clue about you. And also this is your eighth time hosting. Like the jig is up. And also you make me record so fucking early because you have a job.

1:13So sorry, everyone, that you didn't get a clue. It's Satchi Lou. It's Satchi Lou and her arms are covered. Everyone feels safe and comfortable in the studio today. Thank you. Wait, this is your last week. Wow, you guys are really taking a long vacation. This is the thing about owning your own business. You make your own days. You can do whatever you want. You make your own days. So one thing about us, we are going to take like a healthy Christmas break. And you're going to take the entire summer off. Well, excuse me, bitch. I had a baby. I didn't take the summer off, wench. And we are going to take off all the bank holidays.

1:44Of course, as you should. Now, some years, I'm glad you brought it up. It's an American company. The final day of the toast is December 12th. Okay. Some days, like, the holidays line up. Like, the way the weeks line up, it's like, well, if we then did the week after that, then we're done the 19th. Like, that's too close to Christmas. Do you know what I mean? No, it's not. A couple of years ago, like the last Friday was like the 16th. That's perfect. So does that mean you guys are off the starting the 12th and then you're back Jan 5? Why are you counting my time off, bitch? I work hard. That's crazy.

2:14Yeah, it's crazy. And like that's what you get when you're a successful CEO. No, no, no. Totally. This is called jealousy. Yeah. Well, listen. Jealousy, jealousy. Yeah, your friends are so cool. Yeah, I listened to Olivia Rodrigo. I was like, what song is a - Oh, you don't know Olivia Rodrigo? Your friends are so cool. We go out every night. You're not young? Yeah, you live and live. You're not young. Oh, I didn't know that. I'm younger than you. I am young. I am younger than you. Prove it. Okay, birth certificate. Prove it. Okay. Because you're looking old with your arms covered. Oh, oh. Okay, really hit me where it hurts.

2:48Sachi is fresh off the plane from Las Vegas. You spent the weekend in Vegas. You went to the Sphere. Viva Las Vegas. Hey, hey. How was it? It was so fun. The Sphere was the craziest thing. You saw Zac Brownman. Zac Brownman opening night. Did you see Kendra Scott? No, I didn't, but I did see TikTok that she was there. She was there, yeah. And can you explain to me? I saw like a lot of comments about - Demonic? Yeah, what happened? Okay, so that's the thing. Like I could totally understand why someone would think that like based off of online. So what's the rumor? Like that they're demon hunters?

3:21I mean, you know, everyone says that like Hollywood, they did the sacrifice. But Zac Brownman is like not Hollywood. Right, not at all. However I will say But also he doesn't Like have the best reputation You know that Right right The X-Y's Yeah and like Just like I don't think The industry like Really like loves him Because I think he's Kind of mean It's kind of like an outlaw Yeah yeah yeah That being said So here's the thing There were some parts Where I was like This is kind of weird But it's also because Like a lot of the theme For his new album Love and Fear Is like skulls And like things of that nature Dark imagery It's like dark imagery But does that necessarily Mean satanic I don't know Because then I went To Old Dominion Okay so I watched every single i actually skipped through a lot of your zach brown no offense like your seats were kind of high up okay i want to talk about this it's on purpose okay those are the best no no but by the way i had pit and i sold them for where i was and i said i'm finna be in the pit no i'm finna be in the pit because the whole point like honestly zach brown may as well not be there the stage is that small for a reason like it's really just about their visuals so it's like you need to be center middle to like see it all uh-huh so like that was on purpose sure it was no i had pit so i just like i wasn't like obsessed with your stories and then i watched every single one of your stories from old dominion concert um are they doing a residency or was it just like a show i think it's like a little bit of a residency they're perfect for a residency they are amazing the show girls like it was so pargy i have seen old dominion like eight times weirdly i'm not even like i'm a big old dominion fan but i'm not like a fan girl i've just found them myself at like their shows a lot yeah and they put on such a great show and they're just so happy to be there And they're ripe for Vegas.

4:54They're perfect for Vegas. Yeah. And so I was almost more jealous of your old Dominion stories than I was of your Zach Brown. Like, it's cool to go to The Sphere, of course. It was cool to go to The Sphere, and it was, like, such a good one to do it at. And, like, I'm sorry, like, Chicken Fried? Yeah. Like, at that venue? It's just, there's nothing comparable. That's so funny. Like, when I think of The Sphere, like, I don't want to hear Chicken Fried. What do you want to hear? Like, Rainbow by KCM Scraves. What about both? You know, I'm just trying to think. Like, they don't have, like, a ton of shows there, especially ones that we would like.

5:20So I understand that when you heard Zac Brown, like you're going to go because to go to the sphere is so cool and you want to see an artist that you know. Yeah. I just feel like for me in particular, I have not heard or seen a concert at the sphere that I have to go to. Like if Casey Musgraves, I would go. Right. If of course like Luke and Taylor, even though like I don't need to see Luke Holmes or Taylor Swift there. Like that's not the ideal venue. No, but also Taylor would slay. Like I don't even think it's the right venue for like a Luke or like a Chris Stapleton. No, no, no. So maybe a Chris Stapleton actually.

5:45You think? Yeah. Like what are his visuals? Respectfully. I don't know. I'm trying to think. What are Zach Brown band vigils? That's true. I guess he didn't. That's well. So that was there in lies the issue of Satan. I'm trying to think like who I would really love to see at that. I heard a rumor that Jonas Brothers are gonna. And I feel like that would slay. I have to speak my truth. Oh my God. Are you also so mad that we haven't gone? I'm obsessed with the Jonas Brothers. And I feel like I was like a Jonas Brothers hater. I've just been like critical of them because they did have like a weird few years.

6:13Yeah. Where like they became the biggest band in the world. They got back together. Sucker went number one. And then like shit was weird. and now they're in their era where they're just like having fun. I think a lot of people are making fun of them for all the TikToks that they make and all the projects that they're doing that like make me think that they might be in debt. Right. But to be honest, I feel like they're just like living their truth. And that's what's coming through to me. For a while, I feel like they weren't living their truth. No. And like now, I think it's like they have so much money.

6:34So they like just like to have fun and spend it and do whatever. And then like they, but they also work so hard. And I do, I do know like that apparently like they are the hardest working men in the industry. It's coming through. and I saw, I just, they're all, I'm like all up in Jonah's talk right now. And I just want to say like, I've been critical. So I feel like it's important that I say I'm loving this era. Yeah. I don't know which, I'm not a Nick girl. I've never been a Nick girl, but like I'm writing, I'm kind of straddling between Joe and Kevin right now. No, totally. But also just to give Nick a little bit of like pull, like he's coming out with an album that's like a gospel album.

7:02And like, you know, he like loves it. And it sounds so good. Yeah. So he did that one gospel performance of Jealous with the choir. I put my dear music up and I'm puffing my dress. And like everybody like loved it so much. And now 10 years later, he's finally giving the people what they want. And I appreciate, I saw a video of him singing with a gospel choir. It's just so crazy that that song's about Olivia Colpo. I feel like - And she's in the music video. Is she? Yes, on the motorcycle. And also, I feel like the lyrics to that chorus will never be clear to me. Because to me, this is what it sounds like.

7:31As I was just singing it, I don't know what I was saying. I put my chin music up. I thought cheer, but even still. And I'm puffing my chest. I'm getting ready to face you. You call me obsessed. Now, I think it's like this. I puff my, wait. I put my chin music up. What kind of music is it? What do you mean? I put my chin music. Cheer. I don't think either. And I'm puffing my chest. I think it said, I'm getting red in the face. Oh, to face you? No, I'm getting red in the face. You can call me obsessed. It's not your fault that they hover. I mean also I could look up the words I don't want to no I know it's so much more fun this way yeah sorry how did we get to the Jonas Brothers oh you heard a rumor that the Jonas Brothers are doing this fear yes oh yeah let me tell you I would go yeah no no we have to go yeah we absolutely have to go but I will say like I really thought Vegas was like a quick trip it's not it's like going to LA yeah and so that was pretty tough yeah and one of the craziest things I ever did was go to LA for one night I mean I went to LA for a one hour meeting and came home all on the same day okay meeting yeah Madison Ray I had to close the deal.

8:41Okay, meeting. Had to close the deal. But yes, it was super, super fun. Very happy to be home. So glad I did it. Really enjoying watching the discourse online. Yeah. Of the satanic rituals. Of the satanic rituals. And did you feel the presence of Satan in the sphere? No, I didn't feel the presence of Satan. But there were times where I was like, oh, this is a little weird. But like, I like just think that he's weird. And also, I don't feel like we are ripe to like notice satanic things. Because I think there are people who's – Like, I don't, what is Satan? No, I think it's also like anytime anyone sees like red, they're like the devil or Satan.

9:16But there's one time I did feel Satan. Okay. And it was at Eric Church's stagecoach performance. Yeah. Was that, was that there? No. Oh, okay. And it was like one of the strangest things I've ever been a part of. I was like Illuminati here. But here's the thing. Like, are we going to get like sacrificed? You don't know what Satan is. No, I have no idea what it means. Right. So like you feeling Satan, like girl, you don't know. You went to yeshiva. Okay. I have no idea. By that, I mean, I'm just like dark. I feel like something dark is going on. But when other people feel Satan, like they know Satan, you know?

9:44They know what to look out for. Is it an actual thing to feel Satan? I don't know. Is Satan in the Bible? The New Testament, I believe. Oh. Satanic. It's the devil. Got it. And I think the devil has like dual personalities. And then when he puts – I'm in the middle of saying something. Yeah. So I think when – yeah. So like when I'm talking, yeah. So I think the devil like has this like alter ego called Satan. Got it. And he like comes and like looks like normal, like Zac Brown band. It's like how Tate McRae has like Tatiana. Yeah. It's like when I get drunk, I've like become Cladette. I get Margaret.

10:13Yeah. Dark Passenger, I think. Like something like that. Got it. But it's acceptable for people to dress up as the devil on Halloween. That doesn't seem like. Well, I think you're getting into sort of. Yeah. You're saying I have a point. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You got it. How was your weekend? Oh. Let me put the iPad down. My weekend was good. Make it was good. You know, live, laugh, love. I'm scared. No, no, no. You know this already. I wasn't sure if I wanted to share. I was wondering if you were going to share. Two things happened this weekend. One, Jalen Brunson watched the episode of The Toast.

10:52I just feel like we have to mention that on Friday. Ben and I talked a lot about Jalen Brunson. We posted a clip about it. And he engaged with us on social media. Just like kind of a huge moment for The Toast. Huge moment for The Toast for Ben, for your marriage. Yeah, for my marriage. And then the other thing is, yeah. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you guys. Yeah. It's crazy. I feel as though, and I haven't started yet, but like I've made the decision to at some point soon in the near future terminate my breastfeeding journey. I'll say that. It's been a very, very tough decision. I've been toying back and forth with it for a while.

11:31But you feel ready. You feel as though it's time. I feel as though it's time. I did purchase a can of formula. I haven't opened it yet, but it's been purchased. But you're staring at it. That's like step one. I took a picture of it. Yeah. Step one, yeah. Okay. I think towards the end of the year, like as the year ends, so will my time. I also weighed myself this morning for the first time, which was obviously a catalyst for the formula journey. Right. Yeah. So just letting everyone know, the weaning journey might be starting. Might be starting. I'm leaning towards it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I bought the formula.

12:03You did great. Thank you. You really did. Thank you so much. And I really enjoyed it. Yeah. And I highly recommend it. I really do. Like if I had to do it all over again, I would do it 10 times over. Right. And God willing, you will. God willing, God willing. Yeah. That's what. That was your weekend. I'm like so upset about it and so excited. Upset about it because like. Like that's. Like I love it. Like I really love it. You really do. I love it. People are like, well, you have to run home every three, four. Yeah. Okay. Because you're robbing it. Because you're robbing it. Robin Aaron. What? I'm literally Robin Aaron.

12:31Like where the fuck else am I going to be? It's only about the weight loss, which just makes me feel so guilty. It's like such a shallow reason. Right. And such a selfish reason to stop. But you've been doing it for six months, over six months. I feel like by the time I think I'm going to be done, it will be seven months. Yeah. And I just feel like that's fine. That's normal, right? Yeah. No, I think it's like a – How old are most people normally breastfeed for? I'm pretty sure I breastfed for 18 months. You didn't, but you were like a long breastfed baby. It depends. Some people don't breastfeed at all.

12:56I think some people do three months. Some people do six months or some people do like the whole year before you can start giving them other food. So I feel good. I'm so happy for you. I'm like talking myself into it. I feel good. No, I'm so happy for you. You have to do what's best for you. I feel good. I feel good. You're such a great person to be hosting with me today because the stories are so good and they're very turdy. Satchy-coated. Satchy-coated. We've got Kelsey Ballerini sort of unraveling, having a moment. Having a moment in Aussie. in Sydney. We have Licks and Racks. Licks and Racks.

13:30Licks and Racks. Potentially breaking up. Keith Urban has a new girlfriend and it's not who you think it is. Taylor went to the Chiefs game. I actually only have four stories. If a fifth one pops up I'll choose it but there are four really good stories and I don't want to choose just some piece of shit because I feel like it. Totally. So Satchi Lou, Freebush. Ashtray Murdoch. Ashtray Murdoch. Are you ready for the past five stories? Yes I am. the Fast Five Stories that are brought to you by Roller Rabbit. Step into a world of color, comfort, and joy with Roller Rabbit. Known for their classic loungewear and iconic pajamas, Roller Rabbit is rooted in vibrant prints, thoughtful craftsmanship, and the beauty in togetherness.

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19:46Prolonlife.com slash T-O-A-S-T. All right, Sachi, Lou, I'm going to start with the big story of the weekend. Licks and lax. Licks and lax. Licks and brax. Licks and brax. They have split according to Us Weekly, and then everybody else reported it as such. After two years together, a source confirmed to Page Six on Saturday that the Dancing with the Stars alumni and NFL Star have split. That it was mutual. It was distance induced, the source said. A Page Six spy tells the podcast, tells us that the podcast shows. That's a weird way to describe Alex. She's not. She doesn't. Does she have a podcast?

20:18No. It's a vlog series. It's YouTube now. Right. And she's like a dancer. She's an influencer. She's a model. She's a businesswoman. Yeah. Alex was seen having fun at the one hotel in South Beach on Friday. She recently attended art possible parties in Miami. And of course, Page Six has reached out to representatives for Alex Earle and the Houston Texans wide receiver to no avail. So this is just being reported as widely true. The only thing that's like throwing a wrench in it is that she made a TikTok last night and she was at Braxton's house. Now, people are like, it's not true. She was at Braxton's house.

20:46Here's what I think. Go. I think we are so used to people breaking up and then going on podcasts and saying, you know, what color their shit-stained underwear was. like the worst parts of the relationship the worst parts of this person sharing it all on call her daddy that we're not used to two people who maybe just like broke up and still have respect for one another and they're not making tiktoks about it they're not even sharing that they're broken up it's just like through their reps and yes they shared a home she lived with him in miami so she had to go home to miami and he's gonna say what you can't live in my house like maybe he's still oh i don't know cares about her i think we're really her shit's there like she has of course i think we're really not used to it i think like we're just so used to being like all right queen I mean, sit down, 10-part story time.

21:23Yeah. Whereas, like, I actually think this was, like, a really meaningful, mature relationship. Same. It didn't work out. Yeah. For, I think, reasons we can all see. Like, he got moved to Houston and she's on the rise. And it's just, like, it's not going to work. Yeah. But I still think, and maybe I'll be biting my words and she'll be sitting down on hot masks saying Braxton, you know, said I was ugly or whatever. Right, right, right. But I do think the vibe that I'm getting, and I just think the internet isn't used to it. Like the fact that she could be recording at his house, people are like, well, they're not broken up.

21:51Right. The fact that maybe like she could be recording there and he's just letting her stay there because he still like respects and loves her. Yeah. It's so foreign to people. No, it's crazy. I think like it's, I think they're broken up. I think her recording there just means like this is exactly as we thought. She needs a word to say. We're not going to be getting this like 10 part tell all. She's not writing a book. He's not going on a podcast. Like I just think we're not used to it. Yeah. I think it's all very healthy and I think it's sad. I think they're both really sad that they broke up.

22:16Same. I also think like, there's so many things about it. Like one, I do think it really was like the distance thing. Like there's just like no way. I also think that like, there's like the Alex that came out of dancing with the stars is a completely different Alex than the one that went into it. No, she's like, it's so like focused, focused. And also she's just like, I think she, she can level up. Like, I think that there's, there's more for her in her relationship journey. So I always said that, like, I thought it was a weird pairing because like he's so random random and we only know him as a player because of Alex it's not like he's Travis Kelsey and Jackie was always like yeah but that's what makes the relationship like so cute like she obviously really really likes him and Jackie totally changed my perspective because like it's not an obvious choice she could literally date Leonardo DiCaprio yeah and I'm actually scared of who she's gonna date next because pet she is the most famous and the most gorgeous young woman on the planet also like I do have to say like I feel as though she's like so smart an angel yeah i think she's a real she's a really good head on her shoulders she's like so family oriented like i really and like you can like see that and also what i think is interesting too it's like even watching her basil content like she is growing up like she's not partying and i love that yeah i agree so i just feel like for her she is like there's no the limit like simply um does not exist like i'm jacob lordy austin butler glenn powell glenn even though Glenn Powell and Michelle Randolph, how obsessed.

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23:40It's perfect. You see Cassie Randolph got married? Yes. I feel like she was famous for a while, like a short period of time and is traumatized by it. Like obviously stalking her, like putting a GPS tracker. But I think she hated being famous. I think she hated being a part of the Bachelor world. And I think she's like so happy right now. And I'm really happy for her. No, and she looked incredible. She looked incredible. Like I just love that whole saga for the Randolph sisters. Yeah, so I love Michelle being like this famous actress. Obsessed. She's also like one of the most beautiful humans on planet Earth.

24:06And I never would have thought of her when we're always talking about who should Glenn Powell date. Married. Married. Perfect. Married. So back to Licks and Racks. Yeah. I want to also say one thing. Sofia Culpo? Sofia Culpo. I feel like the internet did her really dirty. I think Alex got thrown into the situation that she did not want to be a part of. So she really did not engage. I do feel bad for Sofia Culpo because this was her boyfriend for many, many years. And I think Braxton was not 100 % honest. Agreed. I don't blame Alex at all. And I don't blame Sophia. People are like, Sophia's crazy.

24:41It's like, imagine that was you. Like, for real. By the way, I'd be so much crazier. Of course. So a part of me hopes that Sophia Coppola's a little bit healed in this. Not that it has anything to do with her, and I'm sorry for bringing her up. Did you see the Jackson Dart stuff? I did see the Jackson. But did you see Alex's response? Oh, what? Oh, she was like - So wait, let's start this over. Okay. Tell everyone what happened. Basically, someone posted on a TikTok that someone - It appeared to be a screenshot from Alex Earl's close friend story. And it was Jackson Dart being like, hey, you single now?

25:09It was a screenshot of a DM from Jackson Dart. Who is? Who's on the Giants. He's a huge player. Like, we love him. Sending Alex a message being like, hey, are you single now? And she wrote, it hasn't even been 12 hours. And it went everywhere, like, blah, blah, blah. And then Alex responded. She's like, I don't know what this Photoshop photo is, but one, that never happened. Two, I would never post that. Damn. I know. It made me be like, oh, I really want to be on Alex Earl's close friend story. So same, even though I do ship her and Jackson Dart, and I think they would be an amazing couple. I don't know who he is.

25:37He's, like, I'm telling you. I think that at this stage, an athlete boyfriend is not the right call for her. I agree. She needs to go actor. Okay. Or a businessman beau. I'm thinking more like. By the way, you know who she'd be, like, great with, even though, like, not available and maybe too old? Scooter Braun? No. No? I need to think long and hard. She's also so young. Like, we forget. What is she, 23? I don't even think she's 25 yet. so um Scooter Braun's like over 40 so no right right right like that vibe yeah of course of course I just I'm not happy about it even though for a while like I was like this is not the right relationship for her I've become I had really thought I'm like oh wow she really they survived her skyrocket to fame totally but now the skyrocket I didn't think she could go higher also wait two more things one so now knowing this like him like the posting like the fake like supporting her stories on like every week is a little weird to me although I do feel like Like that was him and her.

26:34No, for sure. It was an option. It was a choice. And she obviously chose not to show it during the Dancing with the Stars, like filming. Yep. However, I will say that if she did, I think she would have won. Why? Just because like more people would have been talking about her. Like all that. What do you mean Robert Irwin, like the day of was like, I have a rib injury. And then he won. And also by the way, Alex had a rib injury the entire fucking season and never said a word. Although I, was it you that we said like, it's better that she didn't win? No, that wasn't me. That like second places were chic.

27:00she's not like the Dancing with the Stars girl now. She doesn't have to go on the tour, even though I think she is, which is so crazy. Well, I think because she really loves dancing and I think she really loves Val and Jenna. That happens a lot where people like fall in love with a craft. No, no, no. On Dancing with the Stars. Jen Tran, do you remember? She like was taking dance lessons after. I'm cracking, but now she's like back in medical school. Yeah, the goggles lift. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but like it happens to everyone. It happens to the best of them. I feel ambivalent about this breakup.

27:29I'm excited to see who she dates next I'm actually afraid I'm excited to just like watch it all Also by the way did you talk about Whitney Lovett on Chicago? I don't know if we did Would you like to talk about it? No I just think it's crazy But I also just wanted to bring it up To say I think that you and I Should go see Lea Michele in Chess the musical Did you see it? No that's why I'm saying that Okay I love Lea Michele And she's the only person Who will get me to Broadway Because you know I hate sitting Through a Broadway show Having said that I don't know what Chess is about Me neither but apparently it's amazing Really?

27:58The songs have been coming up on my TikTok And she sounds amazing And they sound good What I want to see Like if I am going to go see a Broadway show I do want to see fellow Glee alum Jessie St. James What's his name? Jonathan Groff Is Bobby Darin Oh love I heard it's so good Just in time I think it's called Oh I would love that Yeah And also you know who was in it? But I don't think she's in it anymore Do you know that girl from the Charlotte Lawrence? Yeah Is that her name? From the band? Oh Was she in a band? No sorry Charlotte Lawrence is the other girl He's one who's dating Charlie Puth and like – No.

28:29Okay. Sorry. No, no, no. Gracie Lawrence. Who the hell is that? Okay. So you – sometimes I just feel like you're not as young as me. I hate you. So Gracie Lawrence is in this band which is like big on TikTok. They're called like the Lawrence Family Band or something. Their popular song is – right now it's There Must Be Something. No. I'm not singing it right. I'm like There Must Be Something in the Water. Yeah. That's the song. No. I can't believe you don't know. Something in the Water. I can't believe you don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. like just give me two seconds okay so now i need to pull up my spotify laurence family band it's called laurence okay

29:05what is their song what's the one i want to see what she looks like this this grace grace laurence she then replaced renee rap on secret lives of college girls whatever it's called watching that show uh oh you're you were right for that like it didn't get good okay whatever um she was in the show temporarily as well you don't know grace laurence you're looking her up uh kind of eh she's good i like her okay um yeah it's just like a young person thing not a big deal don't feel like an old person thing don't feel like we're on different like f.i. don't feel bad oh also don't feel bad um broadway so that's what i would see if i were to go got it okay so i shouldn't go with you for the musical no i mean if you get a ticket and like it's a good one and like you'll call the uber sure i'll call the uber i just like can't like put energy you know you own white glove service And if I don't have to get my hair done, sure.

29:53Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about Kelsey Ballerini's trip to Sweden. Sweden. Sweden. I'm Sydney. So funny. Like, Australia, New Zealand area. Yes. Right? They're near each other. I don't know. That's why they are. New Zealand. Sydney, Australia. Yeah, okay. Sydney, Australia for sure. New Zealand, I don't know. Yes, New Zealand is like part of not really like, they're just like in the same region. They're like two different countries. Yes, yes, yes. But it's a region. Got it. They love country music. Love. Keith Urban. Keith Urban. Morgan Evans. It's like a sub market of Nashville. And so a lot of country stars, when they get really big, their first like out of the North American region is Sydney.

30:29It's like this weird thing where they love country music in Australia. And so I feel like it's like a sign that Kelsey's like reached a new level where she does shows in Sydney. Totally. Once you go international. But Sydney specifically like has a special relation to country music. She did a couple of shows and a few videos slash moments went viral from the show. The first is that, I kissed someone new last night. And then she changes the lyric where she says, I don't care where you're sleeping, baby. And then there's like a little bit of a quiet. And somebody shouted, Team Morgan. Which is just like, why don't you go to a Kelsey Pelleynick concert?

31:03Why are you here? So she said, fuck off. Which love. She said, Team Everyone's Happy. And it obviously went super viral. Oh, and then she also flashed the Margot Washery move. two two middle fingers yeah oh that is margot's signature move when something literally but i feel like now it's like this oh no but those mean different things yeah yeah this is margot's mad um so kelsey did it and let's talk about that and then i want to talk about some of the other moments normalize like shouting back at people i'm sorry people have gotten so comfortable and people got so comfortable screaming at things throwing things on stage like Like, no, hello, shut up.

31:45I agree. Like that video of Halsey shouting at the person. If you say G-Eazy one more fucking time and they literally find who the person is and throw them out. Like normalize throwing people out. I think the internet culture has made people really comfortable being animals. And a little too confident. And you know what? Yes, stop the whole show. Turn the lights on. Let's find this person. Bring back shame. Bring back shame. Bring back like flogging in the public square. Agreed, agreed. So yes, I love that she like didn't let this moment go. Yeah. Then there were like a couple of things that happened on this tour.

32:15The next thing I want to talk about is somebody posted a video of Kelsey at the show wearing this like fringe gold sparkly outfit. And posted a video of her dancing in it, like shaking the fringe and posted like, it was like close enough. Welcome back, Taylor Swift. Yeah, but it was not facetious. It was a girl who was at the show, a big Kelsey fan. Loves Kelsey. like and kelsey left a commented on it let me just find it did you screenshot it i did because i sent it to jackie we were just like talking about it you know okay i love love love ts but i'm not trying to be never a fan of comparing got it now it feels like kelsey maybe didn't get the reference like that's what people on the internet say like yeah close enough welcome back like Like that's what people say to me.

33:06Yeah. So it was like fun internet lore and it was clearly made by a fan. Right. Someone who, you know, paid for tickets. Yeah. And the girl like freaked out and made a video. She was like, I'm so sorry. I deleted it. I would have the biggest fan in the whole world. So I feel like Kelsey's in this like very sensitive, reflective era. Yeah. And that's hard to be like at shows doing when you're so raw. Obviously like her man was wilding out. Remember like with those Instagram chase. Oh, wilding out. I forgot. She's like going through a lot. Yeah. So I give grace. I give grace. Well, also, the second night to – Revisionist.

33:36Did she say something about Revisionist? Yes. Okay. I fucking love that song. This is what I really want to talk about. So she added it back into the set list and she gave a little speech. Added it? When did she take it out? It just came out. It was never in the set list. Oh, she added it. So she sang it for the first time. She gave a little speech about things that she would revise. Oh, that's what I thought about. Yeah, and she was saying, and it was all very pointed because she was in Sydney, which is where her ex-husband is from, Morgan Evans. He is the subject of rolling up the welcome mat.

34:00the album like really took her to the next level and she was like i do look back on that and i wish i had been what did she say kinder kinder or like given more like in terms of the lyrics and i think like there are some really kind of harsh lyrics in there like about him taking half yeah yeah um and things that like happened in a divorce and then she also went on call her daddy i think that whole era was very much like healing for her but now she looks back on it being like i shared a a little bad. Yeah. And being in Sydney, it feels even more. And she was like, a lot of people, she was like, it did so much for my career and I love the album and I will always like cherish the album, but like it hurt a lot of people.

34:36And I actually like really like that she said that. Me too. Because I love that album and not to be like annoying, but like I was a Kelsey Ballerini fan before all these other bitches. Oh, same. I didn't need rolling up the welcome mat to know her true talent. Some people did. We all know legends. Yeah, right. No, like do you know subject to change? Muscle memory? Please. Please. Please. So I like that she said this because I have thought that. And I know – and me and Jackie talk about this all the time. It's what I was just saying about Alex and Braxton. We just, like, live in this era where, like, you break up with someone.

35:04And, like, you're supposed to hate them. Not only that. And you're supposed to tell everybody, like, all the things that happened. And part of being in a relationship is, like, even if it doesn't end well – and we always say, like, I'm not talking about, like, Brianna chicken fry. Like, tell us more. Yeah. If you're seeing an abusive person, like, that person deserves no grace, deserves no protection. Bring back shame. Or deserves no respect. but like I'm talking more like you fall out of love. Yeah. And then like, you just think you're supposed to go on a podcast and like air their dirty laundry, like a little bit like Rachel Carconnell.

35:31Right. And it's like, that whole situation was also a little weird. It was, but it was still like a five year relationship. I just hate this thing where like, and I feel like Alex Earl is never going to tell us what went on with Braxton. Like I have a lot of respect for that. I do think she'll talk about it at some point, like on her episodes. About being broken up and being hard broken, but not like, and then Braxton said this and here's the screenshot. Like I hate that shit. And we just live in a world that eats that up. No, It's like everyone knows a little bit too much about each other. And I think it's easy to get caught up in like wanting to do that.

35:55Yeah. And I think that's what happened to Kelsey Ballerini. And now like in hindsight, she sees like it's also good for her career. I'm like, look at Morgan. Like, please. Yeah. No, she's like, I didn't need to go that hard. I know. And it's, it's sort of feels like, you know, punching down now. Right. Because she's so famous. So I really, really like, I have enormous respect for her saying this. Because a lot of people wouldn't, even if they felt that way. Do you know how hard it is to admit that? In Sydney? in front of in Sydney in front of so many people that is then now in front of the whole world yeah I that this really um it went a long way I feel and I think it's a really mature healed thing for a person to say yeah and when I listened to the revisionist that's not what I thought she was talking about me neither it's just you know classic you know girly stuff yeah like just like you of course you look back at things and maybe you'd want to change them like do you sit in parks I do sit in parks I do too I love the park I you actually sit in parks more than I do.

36:46I seriously love that. Like when you have a baby, like parks or everything. Yeah. Yeah. No, I do love that song. And the whole work of art. The revisionist, the trilogy of the revisionist, the architect and the prophecy. Incredible. Takes tattoo to church. Incredible. Takes tattoo to church. And then I think that was pretty much all the news from her trip down and down. To moi then posted like some paparazzi pictures of her just like looking gorgeous. Oh, and also I saw a rumor, allegedly, that Chase had cheated on her. So, like, it was giving something. It was giving something. And you don't post turnt Instagram stories like that.

37:24That's another example. Like, this was a three-year relationship. Right. And you're posting on Instagram, like, pandering to the fans, being like, sorry, guys, I really believed in us. Also, like, you're in your 30s. Not only that. I like it. Why is nothing private? No, it's crazy. Like, it's really pissing me off. It's crazy. Okay, now some more down under. Down under. Oh, down under. We need to talk about Keith Urban, who is reportedly sparking dating rumors with the one and only Jennifer Lopez. I can't. Okay. Okay. Friends are starting to wonder if the longtime pals have now crossed into new territory.

37:56Jennifer Lopez allegedly reached out to the country singer shortly after news broke of his split from Nicole Kidman. The source said J-Lo reached out to Keith as soon as she found out that he and Nicole had split up and she wanted to offer her support and check in. Both artists know what it's like to go through public breakup. Jennifer Lopez finalized her divorce from Ben Affleck earlier this year. Yada, yada. Apparently, they've been friends forever. I didn't know that. I'm trying to think of when their paths would have crossed. Are J-Lo and Nicole Kidman friends? I feel like I like – They're like actresses.

38:24Oh, I don't know why I thought – Okay. No, they run in different circles. Got it. Now, here's the thing. I just like – Oh, Margot. Yes, wait. This is how J-Lo and Keith Urban know each other. You're going to die. We watched it. they were both judges on American Idol in 2010. Oh my God. With Harry Connick Jr. Oh. And by the way, of course, my favorite video to get drunk and watch is when Kelly Clarkson is 800 months pregnant, piece by piece, goes back to American Idol as like a homecoming performance right before she gives birth and sings her iconic song, piece by piece, about the father who left her, but it didn't matter because she had an amazing husband at the time, Rip, who was passed away.

39:05And they cut to J-Lo and they cut to Nicole Kidman. because, excuse me, Keith Urban, because Kelly's crying, she can't get through the song. And Kelly's sang the song a hundred times, but she's pregnant, it's hitting a little bit different. They're both sobbing. It is my fucking favorite video, I talk about it all the time. That's how they know each other. Got it. Okay, I mean, I don't, I like don't see it at all. Like, I don't know what they even talk about, but like, maybe if there was a friendship there, and you know, if friendship turns into love. Now, I'm trying to think. I do feel like, when I think of like JLo I think like one of the big great loves of her life is like Mark Anthony right and honestly Keith Urban is the gringo version of Mark Anthony like very like small extremely musically talented and wait JLo is the Latina version of Nicole Kidman tall actress with a lot of hair yeah yeah it's all I'm telling you I kind of feel like I know people like this is so random i kind of see it okay right like i don't know but like if i i that's a good hypothesis a good analyzation i'll take it under advisement okay follow up by eod yeah i'll circle back i watched a diddy documentary oh how was you know i was talking with olivia about it because olivia loved it yeah i felt like it actually was not compelling at all and i feel like the media has made me think that like this whole diddy thing is like a mini or like similar version to epstein and we were going to get a list of who was at the freak offs.

40:36And it's like not really like that. Diddy is a horrible person. He's a violent person. He has, cannot stop beating women. Like that's just like his favorite thing to do. He has gang affiliations. He was definitely involved in the murders of Tupac and Biggie, like all of these things. But that's not what I thought the documentary was set to discuss. I thought it was going to be discussing his trial and his Cassie and the freak offs. The freak offs were mentioned like once. And then like, well, I thought it was like a thing where it was like once a month, there was a freak off at his house no he was just like all bad still yeah like he like worked with people and with like drug people and like all the people they had in the documentary they had really good people in the documentary people who worked with him um but then they went into the trial where he was literally not found guilty he was found guilty on the lesser charges which is why he's spending the next 50 months in jail but he's already served he'll be out soon um but like the big charges like he was actually acquitted of right and the documentary did not explain why I don't know.

41:32Am I the only one who thought the documentary was actually not good in cementing Diddy as like this Epstein type? Now, I cannot stress enough. Bad, bad, evil man. Really like horrible. Even just like when Biggie died and, you know, it's contested whether he was responsible. They threw this huge funeral. Diddy threw it, invited everyone in the music industry. Huge, huge, huge. he put the cost of the funeral on biggie like posthumously like made him pay for it like his estate and then did he was really famous for many years not as a singer or a rapper but as like um almost like kind of like a scooter brawn not a manager but like a producer he was but he was like known as more creative kind of like pharrell williams yes yes perfect example so he wasn't like he was featured on songs but he was more so like cultivating the vibe of hip-hop and r &b and his big breakout moment is when Biggie dies at I think the VMAs they did like a memoriam thank you and Diddy performs and it was like this huge woman and after that he's like the biggest star in the world and so he's a bad evil man morally corrupt person and they explain why he's morally corrupt he grew up really crazy like all this stuff but I don't know I didn't find the documentary like made me hate him more than I already did and I know a lot I don't know.

42:55I just wasn't. But I'll have to say J-Lo dated Diddy for many years. Years? Yes. That's scary. I know. She's so crazy, that J-Lo. That's crazy. And then there are certain people who, like, you don't realize their age. Because when I think of, like, Tupac and Biggie, like, to me, that was 100 years ago. It was. It wasn't. When was it? We weren't alive. P. Diddy was, like, 20, 30 at the time. No, but he's, like, 50 now. I know. But it's hard for me to, like, imagine there are people alive now who were alive then. Do you know what I mean? Right. To me it feels like It's a completely different era And it's not Right You know That's fair So all that to say J-Lo was in the documentary Very very briefly Oh did she speak?

43:33No no Her time She was featured Yeah So I shouldn't watch it I don't know It's like number one on Netflix I haven't heard Everything's number one on Netflix Oh my god Does that like mean nothing? It means nothing It means nothing I started watching the show Nurse Jackie Are you familiar with it? I haven't watched it But I've seen like Satchi you will love it Really? You will love it? You will love it Oh okay Is it funny or is it like a medical show? Both. Love. Both. Also. It's like House. Love's House. Meets the Mindy Project. Got it. It's really good. Also, what we could add as a fifth story is the Netflix Paramount acquisition.

44:07Oh, we talked about it on Friday. Oh. But we, no, not Paramount. You mean. Sorry. Morning Brothers. Yeah, whatever. But we can talk about the potential hostile takeover. It's giving hostile takeover. Okay. So actually, yeah. Because I got an email Saturday morning. Me too. From Netflix. Me too. To every email. Yeah. being like welcome Warner Brothers to the family so they're acting like the deal is done and I had thought it was done too until I saw this story about Paramount oh oh by the way 39 minutes ago the story the story was Paramount has launched a hostile takeover bid for Warner Brothers Discovery oh so Paramount's doing the hostile takeover not Netflix no Paramount okay so let me explain Paramount a lot of people wanted to buy HBO because in terms of the streaming wars whoever gets HBO it kind of like the streaming wars could be over got it like let me explain Netflix has 300 million subscribers about.

44:54Hulu's in the same. They're the big dogs. Big dogs. And then there's a couple of others. We've got HBO Max. We've got Peacock. We've got Discovery Plus. We've got Paramount. They're not on the same level. No. And in order to get to that level, you need hundreds of millions of subscribers, whereas all those other ones, I think, have 50, 60, 70, 80 million subscribers. Whoever acquires HBO, I think HBO is like 100 million subscribers, you're leveling up. You're leveling up. You're getting to the Netflix Hulu tier. Right. And so Netflix buying HBO successfully kind of ends the streaming wars they will de facto be the number one they'll have the harry potter franchises they'll have the superman franchises the sex of this everything on hbo it's over friends it's all friends does that mean friends finally go back to netflix so everybody put bids on buying hbo buying hbo including paramount paramount owns cbs that's paramount plus um that's i think there was cbs plus for a while but now it's all paramount plus where uh Their big thing is Taylor Sheridan.

45:52They have Yellowstone. Yes, of course. But beyond that, they're not like a major. Isn't that Taylor Sheridan? Tyler Sheridan. No. I think you're wrong. No, it's Tyler. Like. I love being right. Taylor? Being right means everything to me. Oh, you're right. I would like to thank God. I would like to thank my family. Taylor. Taylor, fine, sorry. And what's better than when somebody corrects you and they're wrong? It reminds me of the time when I was in college and I had a roommate who I like – it was a random selector. And we really – we did not get along. We just like were not friends. But we weren't enemies or anything.

46:34She was very, very smart. She told – like she was more than happy to share that she got like accepted into like so many Ivy Leagues, but she got a full scholarship to NYU. So she was like really smart. She was always like correcting me. and sometimes it was helpful like I had math homework and stuff but like for the most part like she was like kind of a know-it-all yeah and I'm on the phone with my friend in the room she's in the room and like I'm on the phone so I'm talking to somebody on the phone oh no actually she was there in person her name was Michelle I remember so my friend Michelle we were in person talking about like where we were gonna go and she was like um it's on Houston Street and my roommate of my life because she was like so smart and like and it really was not like academically smart at all growing up yeah um so it was just kind of nice like knife her right back yeah um sorry how did we get here taylor shared oh so the streaming power mount yeah so if paramount wants to be like a part of the big dogs they really needed hbo and same with comcast which is peacock okay they all made offers warner brothers was sold to netflix now but is warner brothers just hbo no there's other there's a million things there's a movie studio you know the logo everything is wb the most valuable thing in there they have a bunch of networks a bunch of channels on cable hbo max got it hbo that's the real value i mean that's what they're paying for so a lot of people made offers and they went with netflix what we don't know is that warrior brothers is a publicly traded company so you can't just like you have to go with the best offer for your shareholders people who like to get paid out it's illegal yeah so paramount said hey bitch we're paying 30 a share You have to take our offer.

48:13Now they're initiating a hostile takeover. Oh. Yeah. So Paramount has gone straight to Warner Brothers Discovery shareholders with an all-cash offer for the company that says it's more valuable than Netflix's offer on Friday. Paramount was widely expected to be the frontrunner for Warner Brothers, but Warner Brothers opted for Netflix, which it said offered a more lucrative deal. The proposed marriage with Netflix caught Hollywood insiders by surprise, including the Paramount CEO, who still contends that his deal was the better offer. the ceo david ellison told cnbc we're sitting on wall street where cash is king we are offering shareholders 17.6 billion dollars more cash than the deal that they currently have signed up for with netflix 17 billion more and we believe when they see what is currently on our offer then that's what they'll vote for so when you're a publicly traded company you can't just sell everybody's got to vote so then who said yes to the netflix deal i don't know it's giving like you know chate yeah the whole thing is chate better in law so weird so paramount offered 30 per share in an all cash jail for the entire company while netflix offered 27.75 for wonder brothers and hbo which is 23.25 per share in cash and 450 in stock got it paramount is all uh cash cash they're desperate they like in order to really be a part of the streaming wars if they don't get this like they're done kind of let's talk about all cash let's talk about all cash because like are we talking about truckloads of money like being delivered like what does all cash mean i think it's like a bank like a wire transfer oh so it's not cash it's not like you're getting like oh oh yeah no when you say like i'm buying a house all cash that means i'm you're not taking out a loan to pay for it oh it's not like suitcases oh my god i'm cracking up no sachet no all cash means like i have the money in my bank account i don't need to it's not like bring trucks it's not bringing no it just means like i oh because you know rich people like buy stuff but rich people are not liquid.

50:02So like I am worth$100 billion. That means I have$100 billion in real estate, in companies. That means I don't have$100 billion bills. Got it. So cash means more like dollar bills. Like I have it in my bank account. I don't need to liquefy. I don't need to sell my company to pay for it. I haven't. But like, okay, so then you're just saying that like Paramount like needs it so bad. Like blah, blah, blah. Like how do they have that much money? There's still like a, by the way, like I'm not, like we can't feel bad for these people. No, no, no. I don't feel bad. They're huge companies. Paramount owns MTV.

50:30They own everything. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. So, thank you for that education. Yeah. I've actually been following the story, because, you know, the streaming words mean a lot to me. Yeah. I've been following the story all weekend long, and I was shook to get that email from Netflix. They're, like, pretending, like, yeah, girl, we got it. Yeah. But, like, maybe don't. That's crazy to send an email like that. I'm rooting for the underdog. I'm rooting for Paramount. I'm rooting for the underdog, too, and also something about Netflix I just can't stand. Fifth and final story. Fifth and final. Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Chewy.

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56:35She brought a couple of famous friends. In my opinion, like her worst famous friends. Agreed. She brought Lena Dunham and Selena Gomez. Leonardo DiCaprio was also in the suite, I believe, as a friend of Trav. Yes. Because he went on their podcast. She looked great. We, like, never get to see her outfits anymore except in, like, blurry pictures. Right. She's behind plexiglass. She does not do, like, the media walks, so there's no paparazzi pictures. And the Chiefs lost. Oh, did they? She brought Selena for the first time. Oh, interesting. And Lena Dunham. And I think there was a question as to whether her and Lena were still friends.

57:11Was there? Yeah. And I guess they are. Interesting. Okay. yeah did you see the thing about her wedding which part um the with the story which i don't think is even true by the way which the ocean house yeah that she paid the girls yeah yeah and it turns out it's not true yeah they're like this story it's so stupid the story of taylor calling up the hotel and buying out the other girls wedding took the internet by storm like months ago now people in the media are talking about it um it's true it's not true i actually don't care i actually could see it being true i just want to say yeah also liz was posting she was like yeah everyone and their mother got a dm about this months ago yeah i got a dm about it a screenshot i sent to my group of friends i'm like look what i got yeah literally everyone's like same and liz was like i got it too yeah like every this person who may either made up this story or the real girl in fact has the biggest mouth on the planet like the worst friends honestly i relate like if that happened to me yeah when i tell you but when you have to sign an NDA.

58:07Isn't that part of the cash? Or she didn't. Or she didn't. Or cash. Yes, AJ. All cash. Yeah, no. What do you think about Lena Dunham? She's not for me. Yeah, me neither. She's never been for me. I've never watched Girls. I'm not a Lena. You've never watched Girls? No. So I feel like, here's the thing. I hate Lena Dunham for one reason and one reason only. That article she wrote. Which one? When she was dating Jack Antonoff, who is a Jewish. I can't believe she named Jack Antonoff. Jack Antonoff is Jewish. She wrote an article because she's like a writer first and foremost. She wrote Girls and she's an actress too but like she's known for her wit in writing.

58:42She wrote books and she wrote an article that was like let me just find it exactly okay because I don't want to paraphrase. Okay. Nina Dunham. Dog. Dog. Jewish boyfriend. Oh I'm scared. Yeah.

59:01dog or jewish boyfriend oh a quiz oh what yeah just basically saying her jewish boyfriend acts a lot like a dog it was so problematic and she didn't get canceled or everything she's been why couldn't it be dog or boyfriend why does it have to be dog or jewish boyfriend correct um so to me like i've never fucked with her ever since then now as a critical thinker i do feel and Jackie's going to think this is the craziest thing. If I could just take that out of the equation for one second. Right. I think the things people hate her for and why she's universally disliked. Is she universally disliked?

59:35Yes. I feel like people love her. No, no. I think it's a little bit blown out of proportion just because she's like a fat woman, honestly. Oh. I think if she did have the shit that she did and she was not fat, like people wouldn't hate her as much. Okay, that's interesting. Having said that, I hate her and it has nothing to do with her being fat. Just an anti-Semite. Totally. To be clear. To be clear. And it pains me that like my, in my opinion, maybe not my favorite, but I think one of the best Taylor Swift songs lyrically is written about her. Which one? I'm going to blow you around and I'm really going to upset you.

1:00:05Okay. You two are dancing in a snow globe round and round. Wait, what? He keeps a picture of you in his office downtown. town you understand now why they lost their minds and fought the wars and why i've spent my whole life trying to put it into words you're kidding you can hear it in the silence you can feel it on the way home you can see it with the lights out lights out lights out you're in love true love wow i'm devastated yeah she wrote that about jack and lena she was just like i'm sorry there's just no way they had a love that inspired a song like that they did there's no way jack antonoff's like dating history is so crazy it goes so deep within taylor swift's lore right and that's part of the reason why she's not friends with lord anymore right because lena right um and then margaret quayley like it's so taylor coded it's insane it's so insane and like and is all well with jack engine off in Taylor at the moment?

1:01:11I don't know. I think yes. Yeah. And he must love that like the life of a showgirl was not critically acclaimed. Right. And in terms of her recent success, like it's not a flop by any means. But in hindsight, we can see that it doesn't really rank up in terms of her greatest albums and especially those released in the last couple of years. I fucking love that album. Same. I have no issues with it, but I'm talking about like just in terms of critical acclaim. Right, right. He must love that. Did you talk about your Spotify wrapped on here yet? I did. Do you want to talk about yours? Yes. You know I'm like Serena Carpenter's number one fan.

1:01:38like she was my number one she's incredible mine was um honestly like oh you're such a bitch yeah when you were like um this is data like you hope that Margo posted on her story like her Spotify wrapped and was like oh my god so accurate and it's like yes it is accurate it is your data no but also by the way a lot of the time like it's not um what am I doing okay my number one song which is so true was 15 minutes by Sabrina Carpenter that song is such a pussy popper oh that was like a deluxe song. Like it's not even like a single or anything. When my times obey. It looks so good. Honestly, like, can you see my phone?

1:02:16It's so scary. No, you're fine. I went to RTMs. LOL. My second number one song, Margot, was I Dare You by Rascal Fats and the Jonas Brothers. that was my number one. It's such a good song. It's such a good song. Number three, Word for the Wind by Ella Langley. Love. I'm the Problem, Morgan Wallen. Mm-hmm. Wrong Ones, Tim McGraw. And that's only because, and Post Malone. Oh. That's only because it's the first song on F1 Trillion and there were so many times I sat down and just listened to F1 Trillion, Post Malone's album. And so the first song on it, it's not the song I listened to the most by any means.

1:02:44It's the first one. It's the first one. Yeah. Mine was - And by the way, same with I'm the Problem for Morgan Wallen. I just started the album and maybe I didn't finish it every time so all the songs weren't played equally. Yeah. My top songs was I Dare You, obviously. Why, John Belly and Luke Holmes. I can't believe you don't like that song more than, like, it's like about having kids. Claudia, you would fucking love that song. Okay, okay. Had it. Morgan Wallen. Such an old one, but really just like. We've all been there. Yeah. Man I Need. Yeah. Big Sky. Parker McCollum. Do you know that song?

1:03:14I know Parker, of course. Can't remember all the places I've been. You kind of look like Parker McCollum. I do? Thank you. He's so handsome. Yeah, you both have like chiseled faces. Oh my God. Do you think my face is chiseled? Kind of. And then my top artists were Morgan, Luke, Taylor, Mumford and Sons, Rascal. Yeah, Taylor was in my top artist, but no song in particular was in. It never is. Yeah. Because they say her discovery. She has such a wide breath. did I do the fast five oh yeah Taylor took Lena and Selena she's better friends but I do like I admire her loyalty that's a great quality to have and Selena and Lena have both been in her life for like 20 years so that's good but like if I was Taylor I could be friends with anyone like you would not catch me hanging out with either of those two in like insufferable women what else Sachi not much really what lip art product are you rocking oh Danielle Caroline got it for me for Secret Santa the Dior lip butter Dior?

1:04:05Dior. Dior. And it has like a little chain. That is so cute. What does young Caroline say about her time on the toast? She loved it. Yeah. She loves you. She was so well received. Ooh, let's gossip really quickly about all the people we've had so far. Okay. And let me tell you, I've got so many good people this week. Oh, do you? Yeah. No, I feel like you've crushed. I mean, you know, who's just like really just the best? It smells good. I like this. Joey Humasta. He'll be back tomorrow, guys. Don't worry. Because I wanted him to have like a final. A final send off. Yeah, of course. yeah um okay cool and like what are the young people talking about um what are the young people well i'm you're younger than me so true um i'm trying to think about that yeah i'm trying to think like who were like the major i'm just the only person i'm thinking i was like bethany frankel who else oh my god did you see everybody's up in arms it's so funny she really is so polarizing everything she does was um like heavily criticized she just got featured in architectural digest for her new house in Florida and people were like shook over it.

1:05:01It's giving wayfair. It's giving home goods. She actually made a video. I'm responding to it. Yeah. Um, no, I did see that. Who else helped me? Who else? What was on the show? Oh, um, that's been such a long maternity leave. Right. Dorothy, Dorothy, love Justin Sylvester. Love. Oh my God. I'm going viral. Wait. Yes. Also. Yeah. What was the video? There was a video that you posted. One of your clips. About him telling a story about him when he first got to Hollywood. Yeah, interviewing with his A-list actress. He told me who it was. Oh, I need to know. I'll ask him. Oh. Okay. It's not like your favorite girl.

1:05:39Yeah, it's not your favorite. No, also, like, I have to say, like, I think I'm sleeping on Justin Sylvester. Big time. Big time. Like, I was watching. I was like, wow, he's so funny. He's so quick. He's so witty. Great storyteller. Yeah, and I was just like, oh, shit. But, well, you know, he's, like, really up for the job of Jenna and Hoda. You know, Hoda left. Oh, yeah. And they've been doing, like, almost a year now with Jenna and Friends. Right. And he's done it a bunch of times. And Hoda has said, like, his choice is Justin. I don't know why the network, like, won't give it to him in an official capacity.

1:06:07And now, like, so much time has passed. I don't even care. I was – for a couple months, I was like, oh, I wonder who's going to get the job. Right. And now it's like Olivia Munn. And they just have people come and co-host for fun. Yeah. And, like, give it to Justin Sylvester. Right. So that's kind of the theme. I feel like I'm always putting people on who I feel need to be. Yeah. Like their voice is lifted up. Same with Joey. Like. Yeah. Joey needs to be more famous. No, he needs to be more famous. He's so like a star. It's coming. It's just a matter of like what it is. It's going to be a perfect storm.

1:06:32Yeah. But yeah, but thanks for having me on so much. It really has been like such a joy. Like I feel like we've been like so funny. Oh, I think. Stop. That's so sad. I'm sick. I'm sick. Don't you feel like we've been so close? No, I do. I feel like it's been really good for our sisterhood. A thousand percent, Tetchy. And what has the impact been on your end? Did you see increased engagement? Oh, I've seen increased engagement. My following has gone up. Really? Yes. But I also don't know. That's definitely a testament to the toast. But also I feel like it's been the toast in addition to like a lot of the things I've been doing CMA awards.

1:07:05Like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like it's just been a lot. It's been a good moment for me on socials. Keep engaging. Keep clicking. Keep liking. Keep subscribing. Please, please, please. Like, I'm still here. And I feel like also, I feel like people are like finally, finally realizing that I'm funny. Oh, I thought you were going to say that. I feel like people are finally, finally, like, thinking Magnolia's cute. Oh, no. We haven't brought her up once. Thank God. So, yeah. I feel like that's been a huge moment for me. That's good. Because I am funny. Nobody said you weren't. You didn't agree.

1:07:34Well, you just kind of get stuck in sort of like what Ben gets stuck in where it's like, yeah, technically you're funny. But you're funnier. I get it. No, and, like, I kind of suck all the air out of the room. And I feel like Ben's finally getting his flowers now. Yeah. Because, like, I feel like definitely do agree, like, since having a baby, like, I've really chilled out. Like I'm so low key and like famous. And so Ben's sort of definitely taking on like the star role in our relationship because there really can only be one star at a time. Yeah, so true. You know, Ben told me a celebrity crush last night.

1:07:58Ben has like this thing where he won't say a celebrity crush. He feels like it's insulting to me. And I'm like, just tell me. Right. And one time a million years ago. And he also doesn't know like a lot of celebrities. So I think like he said once off the cuff that he thought Emmy Rossum was pretty. And I never let him live it down. I'm like, do you love Emmy Rossum? Yeah, you're insane. And so last night, I forget how it came up. And I'm like, just tell me, like, who do you think is cute? Right. He's like, you, you. I'm like, oh, please, don't be so lame. And then he told me, you know what? I actually thought it was a good one.

1:08:26Who? Barbara Palvin. Oh, she's gorge. I said, okay, man of taste. And I'm like, and he also said, also, like, how does he know who she is? Margot, he said, Barbara Plaggin. And he was like, Suite Life. Oh, okay. And then I knew who he was talking about. I thought that was a good one. Who's your celebrity crush? We've talked about this, but now I have to change it because she followed me on Instagram and like I love her and so I would never. Miles Teller has always been my celebrity crush. No, that's a good one. Even though I think she's like accustomed to bitch as one of her man. I would never like, you know, do anything about it.

1:08:52Of course. Also like Kelly Teller. He would never do anything about it. But also Kelly Teller is my celebrity crush. Yeah, of course, of course. So like just I think. So if you're changing it, who are you changing it to? Who's someone that I'm like, oh my God, right now? Because I've had like really weird celebrity crushes in my life. Like do you think role model is cute? Did you see Emma Chamberlain made a Sally video? Yes, I did. Okay, am I young or am I young for doing that? No, obsessed. Here's the thing. I think he's like a cutie, but like not for me. He's like a little too skinny for me.

1:09:18Yeah, I wouldn't say he's my type either. Right. But I'm trying to think of like who like the hot hotties are these days. Like obviously a Glenn Powell. Honestly, it's always going to be Scott Eastwood for me. Scott Eastwood is a good one. Like it's just always going to be him. It's always going to be you, Such. Aw. Thank you so much for spending your mornings with us. I know you're super busy and the Toasters really appreciated it. Of course. You are a beloved co-host. I cannot wait for the end of the year where I do all the data and I see whose episode I got the most listens to. Oh, please let me know.

1:09:42You're always a contender. People love you. Thank you. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me. Thank you guys so much for listening to The Toast, the Millennium Morning Show where we deliver the fast life stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please don't forget to subscribe and give us a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast and where podcasts can be found. So it's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, public video, I-Rodcastbox, all the places where you listen to podcasts. Find us at Toast. leave a five-star review about a beautiful setting and wickedly talented we are we will see you tomorrow love ya bye

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