Long Suffering Propriety: Friday, January 17th, 2025

0:00Good morning, millennials. welcome back to the toast and happy fucking friday like my god thank you jesus and all the lords of all people for bringing us to this moment it's very exciting for a number of reasons second full week of the new year in the books and i actually i read a statistic that most new year's resolutions are broken on the second friday of january like and don't you feel that way that like that resolution energy has just gone out the window like you've made it till today I relate to that because my relationship with resolutions is like I don't do them and on the one or two years I have actually done them it was such an important resolution like the vaping or when I decided to change my whole life philosophy saying yes to life like those are the two resolutions I've ever even tried I've never been a person on January 1st who like goes to the gym like so I don't participate in resolution culture to be honest I'm very much participate in resolution culture and I was feeling like the lag this week and I was feeling really unmotivated and if I hadn't read that statistic I could see myself like giving up because by the way what's worse than being another statistic right it's the weekend so I'm not like up on my goals on the weekend I could see myself like giving up by Monday but now that I read the statistic I do not want to be just a statistic so I'm going to carry on I have my water jug we are drinking less and less before the show every day which is good because I can't keep running to pee so I just have to up my water intake in the afternoon.

1:33It is so important that I at the top of this show issue two enormous corrections from yesterday's episode. One of them is yours. Okay. Lane Meester was not in parenthood. Okay in my defense Minka Kelly is in parenthood and in my defense have the two of them ever been seen in the same trail of different park like literally they're the same person they look alike they have similar career trajectories of course I I correct I stand corrected but my heart was in the right and mine was also in the right place and I see how I made this error but when I was like getting my actual diatribe that's so me by the way whenever I have to issue a correction it's never like an offhand remark it's something I spoke about for 15 minutes that yeah you're very passionate about the severance tv show that um we did yesterday about like their big marketing campaign i was talking about my experience with the show spoiler alert i've actually never seen severance what i thought was severance was actually a show called industry and i could see how you could be the look up the posters they're the same fucking show they both take place like in the workplace and i apologize i've actually never seen severance now i kind of want to it sounds like something i might be interested in I had watched Industry on HBO Max.

2:48I apologize. That whole thing statement, I made everybody just undo, control Z. I heard Severance is a great show. Yeah, so maybe we'll give Severance a shot. Show called Severance. Show called Severance. Streaming on Apple TV. I have a very complicated relationship with Apple TV subscription. Like I refuse, I let a lot of my subscriptions stay dormant. Like I'm never gonna cancel Netflix, Hulu, Max. like even if I'm not watching them so frequently like that's baked into my monthly expenses but there are certain ones like if I'm not using it like with Ted Lasso I would sign up for Apple TV the second I was done with Ted Lasso we're canceling Apple TV same goes for Peacock I'm not like attached to Peacock I'll sign up to watch something and then I will cancel same with Paramount Plus some of them haven't really like adapted to my monthly expenses most of them I don't really go through the subscriptions and change them what I have is what I have but I feel you about Apple TV they don't have enough content to justify paying a separate price when I already have the you're telling me my Apple TV doesn't come with Apple TV yeah that part's really disgusting so crazy so it's kind of it's on principle that I agree because that makes no sense I bought your device when I could have bought a fire stick or Roku or something and you're gonna make me pay to watch like one show that you have you have one show to be clear like a lot of the networks that have streaming platforms like also have products like Firestick.

4:14Firestick doesn't come with Prime, but if you ordered it on Prime, like you probably have Prime, you know? The thing about Prime though, is we don't know what we're paying for. Like I have Prime, I assume. How much is it? I don't know. I signed up. I get to watch Prime TV. Molly May, I know I have that. I don't see a bill for Prime. I signed up for Amazon Prime when I was in high school. I don't think I ever signed up for Prime. No, Jackie, you had to have. No, Prime signs me up. Because it used to be like, when we were all just using Amazon to like order stuff in high school, it used to be that like you could get it or you could get it in two days with Amazon Prime.

4:49And if you were ordering enough, like it really justified it wasn't a crazy price. And I've never - What's the price? I don't want to know. Because it's such, to me, like there are 30 ,000 things I would cancel before I would ever cancel my Amazon Prime. Like I rely on it to live. I agree. And also like when I, I'm a Prime member, apparently. Does that cover my video, my Prime video? Actually, no. I know that Prime Video has recently like done its thing because I like have Prime Video, I guess. But now the Prime Video that I have has ads. So like they've obviously up to, there's like a tier. And I actually don't use Prime Video that much, so I'm not going to pay for it.

5:31But when I was watching. Stop with the tiers. Stop making me make hard choices. Yeah, and there are certain. streaming services that have like tiers, like even the highest tier still has ads. Like girl. They're wild. That's crazy. They're wild and out. That's crazy. Yeah, it's a mess. It's a mess. And I actually, not a resolution, but at the beginning of the year, because I pay my taxes at the end of the year. So in December of last year, I paid my taxes. And of course, then I always want to start out after that, like being a little bit more fiscally responsible. So one of my goals was to get all my subscriptions in order.

6:02Like I just know, sometimes I see a charge for like a dollar for like a VPN I used once. and that was like a year ago. So that's$12. Like, yeah. So I really want to get my subscriptions in order. That's a goal of mine. Not a resolution, but a goal. That's a, there's really good apps for that. Yes, actually, one of them is a sponsor today. Oh my goodness. It's actually a very good sponsor. So spoiler alert, stay tuned for the code. Should we do that ad right now? Honestly. Like that feels right. Honestly, yeah. It's so organic. It's so organic. It's so organic. And now I need to go get it. Guys, the start of the new year.

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12:07Let me tell you, all over social media, Kiki Palmer was yesterday and she just like crushed it. There was like so many funny moments, sweet moments, earnest moments. And she has a new movie coming out that like seriously I've only seen promoted on TikTok. I don't know why this movie is getting no, like I don't know where the marketing budget, it's starring her and SZA. And Maude Apatow's in it. Like it's like this trio, like girls night type. It looks so funny. I'm like, I don't know where I can see this movie. For some reason the rollout is not giving me faith that it's gonna be like mass distributed.

12:35and of course I don't know what it's called but so she's doing a lot of press and people fucking loved her like I think if she wants the job there has been such positive feedback from Kiki and Jenna that I actually think the job is hers to turn down I think she would be fantastic I wonder if she wants that job because it does mean you kind of have to give up other things some of your other hats and she's someone who always has like multiple projects because she is a multifaceted entertainer. So just to be sat there five days a week, very routine, I don't know if it's your job. No, and that's why the job tends to go to women who are a little bit older in the industry because they've done that, you know?

13:11They've spent their 20s and 30s like doing the most and trying every opportunity. And then it's nice to have some stability and just go to work every morning at the same place. It's not for everyone. I agree. Like you can't have like a thriving acting comedy. She's like really also an influencer, a podcaster. You can't do all of that while also being like a daytime daily host. but I'm happy to see her getting like the feedback and the respect that she deserves I'm just not surprised yeah things that don't surprise me you know what but has kind of confounded me me and Ben had like this 30 minute conversation last night that we actually ended up in a fight because like I thought he was giving such bad answers I have been singing um guilty a sin like by Taylor Swift it's like been stuck in my head and I keep getting stuck on this lyric that like I actually it could be in Chinese like I do not understand it okay me you put you can probably help me.

13:59I mean I said to Ben I'm like what do you think this means? It had been like bothering me all day and he gave like such a wrong answer. I'm like okay never mind. Why am I talking? Do you think he would give a right answer? Sometimes it's very profound and I'm like okay you know what never mind like I asked the wrong person. I should have asked Jackie. So tell me what you think this lyric means. Okay. If long-suffering propriety is what they want from me they don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly. What the fuck does that mean? First of all I had to google what propriety means i don't know what so it means like but i'm gonna use context okay what it means is like forcing someone to conform like acting proper propriety okay if long-suffering propriety is what they want from me say they don't know how you've haunted me so stunningly well before you gave the definition of propriety i was going off of like suffering and it's like they want me to suffer for a long time and they don't know like saying like well yeah okay they've wanted me to suffer propriety for a long time and they don't know that you've haunted me so stunningly haunting is a negative thing like they don't know that I've been suffering propriety but then the next lyric I choose you and me religiously he's making you suffer why do you choose him I mean that's a classic question like literally ask any girl in a relationship or that's pining after a person that doesn't want her and yeah the choosing you and me religiously is what's making her suffer because it's long-suffering propriety and he's haunting her because he don't want her who's it about metahilly yeah this makes sense does it because ben was getting stuck on the word stunningly like saying that it was about like beauty i'm like no oh yeah no i'm like no you're wrong like you are wrong yeah no it's just an adjective right i'm like but the stunning i said ben the studying doesn't refer to a person refers to the haunting like it's a possessive adjective yeah and he was no and then we just started fighting like oh well you shouldn't have even asked him not because like he couldn't be helpful in something but like with taylor you kind of have to know the lure a little bit and the lore of the lure sometimes and i feel like this happened a lot in ttpd like she lyricist lyricized like a little too close to the sun i feel like the older she gets the less of her lyrics like i actually understand she's like a little too smart i find myself having to google words yeah i i also would need like the context clues of the rest of the the song song yeah but it does sound like like people want her to suffer and little do you know i've been suffering by pining over this person who has haunted me who i would choose every day religiously who wouldn't choose me and that is suffering i asked you like i feel like i kind of get it but i also might really be analyzing them too much on the surface I have a tendency to do that lyrics of course I'm not very um deep what's the word no no I am deep but I just sometimes I just I'm too on the surface in my analyzation I don't know how else to describe it so maybe there's something so maybe there's more that I'm missing oh update on our theme song competition it is still in full swing.

17:05And as of this morning, you know, um, the Supreme court has decided to uphold the TikTok ban. So Sunday is still the deadline for the theme song competition. Jackie and I are looking all across the nation for a new theme song. Well, not a new, our first theme song for this podcast right here. You can submit on Instagram reels or on TikTok using the hashtag toast theme song. Um, try and stand out, you know, play an instrument, do what you want. And we're looking for like a 30 to 60 second jingle not too long not too short um of course the one and only social media competition we've ever run that's taking place on tiktok ends on the day that tiktok will be banned so if we want to sit down and watch all the tiktoks on sunday and make a decision like we actually we're gonna have to save and like screenshot the profiles of people i didn't even think about that like how we're gonna i do think like the the people who have really put them their whole cells into it like our real contenders are are on both but just keep that in mind that is so crazy we've never done anything like this and of course it's we chose the day we're gonna have to do Saturday night like Saturday night yeah Saturday night school but the competition is not over if you have not submitted yet we really encourage you to this has been so much fun oh also the winner wins five thousand dollars that's like a huge part and a contract with Toast Studios so that's just huge um that's kind of worth more than the five thousand dollars um and we're really excited so hashtag Toast theme song I've been loving watching everybody's competition some mish and And yeah, this has kind of been like one of the best weeks of my life because of it.

18:25Yeah, it's been really fun. And I'm mostly excited to have a theme song. Me too. Because some of the ones that I've listened to have given me chills, which is also like, if you don't give me chills, like whether it could have been the best song, but it didn't give me chills. So it's not going to win. And just to have that experience every day, I think will be really punch. And I'm like struggling because the one that I think is best, there has been another one that I was singing in my head all day yesterday, which is kind of like the benchmark of a good theme song. So I'm feeling really torn, but I'm also still open.

18:54If somebody, I just want, I can't stress it up that the competition is still open. Like, I think also that we'll pick our favorites, two or three, and then maybe we'll like ask friends and family to vote. And that won't be like the decision, but that might help us see what the people gravitate towards. It's a very intricate decision and voting process. It's so complex. A lot of people don't understand how hard we work personally on this. It's kind of like American Idol. like everybody has because there are certain videos on tiktok that have gone viral one of them is like a quarter of a million views but like and that's great that doesn't equal winner it's oh no it just means that we will see it for sure even though we will see all of them it's good to know though scroll till the end of the hashtag like that's good too that's true that is very true so there's a couple of buckets that go into the final vote which is like claudia and i our friends and family like social media reception it's just it's it's a very layered and complex equation.

19:48Yeah. Resulting in the best result. Wouldn't you say? I would hope that the equation would result in the best result, but you know, time will tell. Okay. And what do you think about this? If we're between two options, if we had like an intro song and an outro song, like that's when the podcast gets like crazy, like more songs, like just more songs. I mean, I think like if none of them work out we could always do what if he's written my mole on my upper thigh mole that's always an option of course that's guilty as sin I just learned of course we could also do that again um and I'll never stop singing my pargy song like we we have options of course if we like took the time we could have done this ourselves yeah but who wants to do that when you could host a competition we are busy women I'm such the Simon though wouldn't you say oh actually no I think you're so Paula like you're you think everything is so good like I'll send it to you and you'd be like oh my god I love it I'm like really like you are definitely the Simon you might be Randy who was who was more lenient Randy or Paula like Paula had empathy that neither of the other two had but randy had a low bar for talent like yeah i don't even know how how did those three become so iconic when i can't like even distinguish the personalities of randy and paula i think randy was just like more laid back yeah in his critique and i think paula like had a lot of energy like was definitely the one like the katie perry who was just like making best friends with everyone and like was there to serve looks and like be glamorous paula abdul yeah so crazy so crazy that was such an interesting because now it's like they look for the biggest and baddest star to put in one of those chairs but like those were three unknown now of course paula abdul isn't unknown but for the audience that was watching i had no idea who paula abdul was no me neither it was for young people and like we knew this was like an older successful pop star she was like known for her dancing but i had zero i never heard a paula I'll do a song in my life.

21:54So the fact that they became so known is actually so crazy. Yeah. And then they tried with X Factor. They tried to make like L.A. Reid, the Randy Jackson. He did a good job, but X Factor wasn't appreciated in its own time. X Factor US. Yeah. Yeah. What can you do? Where were you when you first heard Carly Rosson and Claire? Oh, I was sad is where I was. Exactly. well I guess we should get into the stories to bid you farewell to the we have queenie and weenie this week do you have yours I do I wrote them down I actually had a hard time I think it was because this week felt so long that I think on Monday I wrote down somebody like that I just wanted to put into contention for my queenie and now it just feels so irrelevant it just feels like last no I know because it's been so long exactly yeah also the good news is that next week is a Oh, yeah.

22:44Thank you so much for reminding. We're embarking on a three-day weekend. You guys know we respect the hell out of federal holidays. And I would never disrespect my King Martin Luther. And that's on Monday. So MLK Day. Literal King. Literal King. MLK Day. There is no toast. That's Monday. So just prepare yourselves. I think that's a federal holiday that's widely respected. Like certain holidays have become like everybody goes to work on Columbus Day. And people are like, oh, really? You have off for armor day? Yeah, I do. So not all of them are as respected. but I feel like everybody's off on Monday.

23:15And I do feel like after two long, hard, full weeks, like we need a day off as a society, not just us. Like it was a lot coming back into the year. And with like the TikTok ban, like we all need time to sort of like reset. Yes. And as you said, like Monday is just a big day for the world. Also like with the hostage deal, like it's just a big day. So we'll be off. I just wanted to say one thing. like not to like bring it up after like you said hostage deal so it sounds so vain but like um a lot of I was just when we were adding to our list like our Monday list I realized like the first if the deal goes as planned like the first hostages are said to be released on Monday okay so I'm actually not gonna say what I was gonna like now I feel really even more well okay let me say like just something else and then you could say it yeah um don't forget new redhead's book is the wedding people it's gonna be an amazing episode with fun with friends and family So I feel like I actually haven't given my official thoughts on the TikTok ban.

24:11Like I've been updating everybody on it. And like, how does Turdy feel? And I obviously love TikTok. I'm kind of the TikTok correspondent for my generation. I feel like your feelings are complicated. And you've been parsing through them. My feelings are complicated. Let me tell you why. Like, am I resentful that like I never reached a million followers? And I'm definitely underappreciated as fucking hell on that app. Yes. So do they deserve to go down for that? Absolutely. 100%. But I've gotten to such a good place in my TikTok. Like I pop up on TikTok at least once a day. Like I'm, I've like, I'm in such a good place.

24:40Like my engagement's crushing it. Like I'm getting so many brand deals. Like I'm going to miss that. I'm going to miss the attention, but I actually know that I will be better off because of it. Like I have a very complicated relationship with the app. Like I love it so much. I rot for hours and I know that it's bad for me. And it's like, I've got to enter this phase of my life where I need to be present. And so I know they're not doing this for me, but in its own way, it feels like it's being done for me. Like I'm actually looking forward to the person I become without this kind of addiction in my life.

25:09It's kind of like the vape. I think that's - Like I loved it, but I hate it. I agree. I do think it's coming back though. So like this will be short-lived. And on the plus side, like all the money that the brands were spending on you on TikTok that like you would be missing that, like those brands will spend that money elsewhere, whether it's on Instagram, on the podcast. Although, can you explain something to me? It's live events, trips to the Cape. Me and Ben were like talking about like China yesterday, obviously. What else do two people talk about? And he was asking like, why? Okay, so like China's stealing our data and spying on us for sure.

25:40Like, why is that bad? And I was like, oh, well, I'd love to cite the 60-minute segment I once watched. I like actually really colored a lot of my opinions on TikTok and like how they really do use it as like a weapon. They use TikTok, this amazing algorithm in China to like further the education of minors and teach kids to, you know, valuable lessons in math and STEM. And then they use that same sort of algorithm to target Americans to like keep them fat, lazy, and mentally ill. Like, yeah. And they use it like, they convince people like on TikTok that you have mental illnesses that you don't have.

26:08Like it's actually, the 60 minute segment, if you just Google it, it was actually really powerful. Like, cause at first I was like, who gives a fuck? So I was telling Ben that. He's like, no, no, no, that I know. But like the actual data, like, okay, so they have our data. Now what? Like what's bad? Well, so I think for a regular person who's not remarkable, it's like not a huge deal to have your data. But then there are people, like they get into your phone, they get into your wifi network. there are people whose parents work in government there it's ways to get amongst other threats but it's ways to get proprietary information that maybe just the 13 year old dancing in their room doesn't know but like their dad has or mom has government secrets or mom um okay then also then explain this to me because everybody like and you just said like you think it's coming back for sure even though the supreme court has upheld like the legality of banning it they say like no no the law There's nothing stopping the law from stopping this ban.

27:02Like it's legit. They just said that this morning. So obviously today's the last like working day of Biden's presidency. So now it's up to Trump. But like Trump's thing is he hates China. Like, so why, why would he? Why would we think it's coming back? I think because whatever like makes it so nefarious and there are a couple different things, I think those will get solved. Whether it's a sale, whether it's parameters in place. I think - thing i said earlier in the week is true about like that it can't be inextricable it can't be unlinked from the bite company which is based in china like their data centers even if you buy the company like for in order for the company to still exist separately like it has to be linked i feel like maybe it doesn't i love that there's a work around maybe there's a song and if anything it'll take i think the issues will get will get solved a bit is what not it's just gonna like oh we'll keep doing this because this has been a problem for a very long time.

27:59And then Ben also had an interesting point. He was like, you know what? And Ben doesn't like come at this with any sort of agenda. He's just like a curious person, which I like. It was like, but you know what? Like if anybody started an app eight years ago and was able to sell it today, it's worth$400 billion. That's like the market value. The fact that they don't want to sell it, like that gives nefarious vibes. Cause the whole point of starting like a tech company is to like, you know, sell it and make money. And you've successfully built the biggest one in the shortest amount of time. and now we're like the government is begging you to sell it begging and you won't why because money maybe wasn't your goal spying on 13 year olds whose dad's working government or moms well and that's just like one case of how they could spy but just like they had of course like they like to see what america then they have like full i get it i get it like we are into american life are so interesting like if i was living in china and i worked for intelligence i would want to know what was going on here too like we are the most fabulous people we are so complex and we are of course not perfect but like if I could spy on any country like of course I wouldn't be this one we are sick we're gorgeous god bless America like I get it I get the intrigue their obsession like I got it yeah it's a real think about all the people who live here first of all us like who's more interesting than us I know they totally want in our face like they're so if I was a Chinese spy I would say I want them first yeah I'd say these girls are really high threat and we need to be listening to everything we are head threat we're extremely influential yeah yeah well they can hear your end of the call not mine so true how do you feel actually and I feel like you haven't been annoying about this at all as somebody who has resisted tiktok for these reasons there have been like from day one like weird concerns about china at first it was like a conspiracy theory now it's like at the supreme court and you have sort of stuck to your guns and we all made fun of you and it has made your life difficult and honestly difficult of you know for the people around you to download and sending and you not only like do you feel vindicated you haven't been like annoying about it at all no I don't feel like I was right or anything because it's not like this was a working theory that I had like I was reading the same stuff as you guys I just like took it more seriously um and then there were also like aside from like the spying like it definitely the mental health I just realized like how much time I would be spending on my phone if I had TikTok and not that I don't spend a lot of time on my phone but it's not a number I want to add to um and I'm just really hopeful like I hope that people come to reels because then reels will get even better and the brand more brands on Instagram whenever they're like do you have TikTok I'm like yeah like okay cha-ching down the toilet so true but by the way I think what you said is super like we can all like talk about China like what the fuck do we know I actually think like the mental health implications for an app that is so targeted towards young people like that's the benefit of it getting banned like obviously the national security which is like a little high level for me I'm not gonna pretend to understand it but like I won't be if I had like a teenager right now I would be thrilled right that's so I think it will be a net good thing and all social media is like ripe with issues um but at least it feels like with most of the big platforms here like they at least pretend to care they're also like embedded so much in culture that like I don't think of Instagram as addictive I think of it as like work and I can like I can put it down no but if there was like an issue with Instagram and teens like Mark Zuckerberg would at least pretend to do something about it and not like certainly not try and make it worse and celebrate it um but he might put in something and there might be laws in place like I know there's laws in Florida about like like you can't have social media before a certain age so like at least there are things you can do and I just feel like TikTok has just gotten like so out of control but that's also it's like too big to to monitor even yeah but and not that I'm so for like monitoring or anything um that's why these like issues are complicated but I think the issue is that it is being monitored in a nefarious way it's not just like it like they are tailoring right you know people with 30 worst sorts of content to people and promoting that as opposed to it actually just being like free speech do whatever you want and the cream will rise it's not the cream that's rising yeah that's the issue how do you feel about like proceeding with the remaining ads like are we gonna dive into the Fast Five Stories ads.

32:01So we have one more ad break. Yeah. And like I feel so off kilter. Let's do the first ad break after story number two today since everything's been bumped up a little bit. I'm not going to do it after story number two because now you've just sort of spoiled it for people. But you guys just stay tuned. You never know when they'll hit you. Right. Well now it is time for the Fast Five Stories that you do need to know if you are ready. I am. Like it just feels so weird to be ready. Our first story is a big story of the day and you know of of the last few months um but a new update has emerged from justin baldoni's lawsuit because justin baldoni is claiming that ryan reynolds and taylor swift pressured him to accept blake lively's it ends with us rewrite in a new complaint so justin baldoni has filed a 400 million dollar lawsuit against blake and her husband and their publicist on thursday january 16th less than a month after blake filed a complaint alleging sexual harassment and a retaliatory smear campaign among and so this is a 179 page complaint there's a lot of discovery and things and you can go read all of that however among the claims made in this complaint he alleges that taylor swift and ryan reynolds pressured him into accepting one of blake lively's rewrites for the film christie hall is credited as a screenwriter who adapted colleen hoover's blockbuster novels so in the pre-production phase lively allegedly asked to take a pass on the film's rooftop scene where her character Lily meets his character Ryle for the first time.

33:29Justin was quote reluctant to let her rewrite this key scene per the complaint but agreed to take a look at what she put together. Justin claims her version was quote dramatically different from how it was originally written and after his quote exceedingly mild resistance Lively quote went silent for multiple days and later said an alleged text message that his reaction to her rewrite quote didn't feel great for me or to Reynolds and what Baldoni characterizes as quote another mega celebrity friend. A text message included in the filing reveals that quote influential and wealthy celebrity friend is Taylor Swift.

34:03Justin claimed that he was quote summoned to an earlier meeting with Ryan at their New York City penthouse where the pop star Taylor arrived and began praising Lively's script. Baldoni understood the subtext he needed to comply with Blake's direction for the script per the complaint he felt he didn't need ryan and her mega celebrity friend to pressure him so he texted her that while her changes made the scene quote so much more fun and interesting he would have felt that way without ryan and taylor adding a playful emoji blake allegedly responded by comparing herself to the game of thrones character cringe and that ryan and taylor are her two dragons like the sheer fact that this like real housewives level of drama is in a lawsuit is so embarrassing to me, honestly.

34:50And people are just gooped and gagged by this. The screenshots going around make Blake look out to be like such a loser and such a mean girl. And I don't think that's really ever been up for debate. Like the crazy thing to me is like he filed this 200 page lawsuit,$400 million and not one of it disputes the original claims that he sexually harassed people on this set. They had to take a break and come up with deal terms. and what so Blake Lively's a bitch what does one have to do with the other like his entire lawsuit yes this makes her look really bad which has been like the theme the whole time she's a mean girl her texts are so fucking cringe like my dragons my Khaleesi like cringe okay but you know what else is cringe sexually harassing your female co-stars like I don't see what one has to do with the other because um it won't change how I feel about this situation but you just get a glimpse into someone's personality and it's it's a little painful she said if you ever get around to watching game of thrones you'll appreciate that i'm khaleesi and like her i happen to have a few dragons for better or worse but usually for better because my dragons also protect those i fight for so really we all benefit from those gorgeous monsters no i actually cringe like my there's a chill down my spine smiling emoji you will too i can promise you and like great let's say jesse maldoni is telling the truth everything in his 179 page lawsuit is completely factual okay blake lively and her fancy husband and her fancy friend taylor swift like wanted to take over the project not a crime definitely like a bad personality trait but nowhere in there does he dispute any of the things that were alleged about him you know uh making her add more nudity scenes being weird about the intimacy coordinator showing uh nude images to female co-stars like i i really i don't understand how this has what to do.

36:38This is, I think, another strategy in what was originally. Oh, and by the way, there is no disputing that he hired people to do astroturfing. Like, so all the things that were in Blake's original complaint, like, to me, have not been disputed at all. If anything, like, he's giving us evidence as to why he was mad at her and did that in the first place. She told on him to sag about his inappropriate behavior, and then she... Wait, oh my God. It's crazy how your brain just turns off. Like he's mad at her and did all that because, oh yeah, she told on her to sag and she was like a pain in the ass on set.

37:18So I think here, and it's getting confusing and I think that's the intended effect, but he is trying to also prove why he hired Crisis PR because all of the things that happened that he's not disputing, there was beef and there were disagreements and creative disagreements and a million other things. and so he's showing why he went on the defensive which then it looked like an offensive right but the crazy thing is is to the public no one was ever team blake like she never put together any sort of strategy when the movie was coming out it was all making her look bad so he he's like i was on the a defensive from what we never thought anything other than you were the good guy and she was the bad guy right no but now he's having to prove that there was an offensive that either hadn't launched yet or was in the midst of it before like he came forward with his he sounds like a conspiracy theorist like he sounds a little crazy because all i've gotten from everything his original complaint and now this lawsuit is that blake was mean and her fancy friends who jacked me the tennis strip made me feminist feel bad and by the way i can completely see a world in which like blake lively who's the most beautiful woman in the world married to like one of the most handsome best friends of taylor's like she's definitely a bitch and she definitely like she's not even an amazing actress so I could see her like coming on being like I want to do x y z it's like girl just do your job you're not even going like I I can see all that none of that literally means anything to me like when there is proof and pretty much confirmation of like that list of 30 things that he was acting inappropriately on set harassing people sexually like why is that equal to being mean it's not these like these are two separate claims yeah I don't think it's saying it's equal to being mean I think no but he's trying to sway public opinion well it's like I was accused of sexual harassment well these people were mean to me okay no but he's like saying blake showed like what happened before the astroturfing campaign and now he's showing what happened before that led to the thing that led to the thing i never wanted to know this much about two people about one movie like just if stop making movies everyone like if it's this hard to just agree on a rooftop scene like seriously the book was written for you just write what's in the book it's really not that hard that's the other thing like taylor swift definitely read this book like on her own because we know she likes to read and this is a very popular big book, especially for women.

39:33And I could see her really getting so excited that her friend was playing Lily and wanting to get involved. And I think it's a really unique strategy because Justin, I think, is motivated a lot by public opinion. Of course he wants to win, but I think he cares a lot about what people think of him. And including Taylor Swift in your lawsuit, it's kind of a risky move. She's universally beloved. And I think people have made sort of an exception for Blake. They're like, yeah, she's Taylor's best friend. She sucks because everybody's now off of Team Blake. But now it's like, well, Taylor's a part of it.

40:10So where do you land? I think it's going to be really interesting to see if that hurts him or helps him. Yeah. Also, I feel like we already forgot that her song was a part of the movie. And that was a really big hype for the movie. My tears are cachet. So she's not uninvolved in the movie. I forgot about that. Yeah. so he probably had to like cozy up to Taylor because she's doing this favor giving the song yeah and she's like a part of the excitement around the movie and then also Justin like posted pictures yesterday of him in the basement at the premiere with his family like let me tell you how I do not care that you were at the basement in the premiere like you in the what regardless of what happened like you and the lead actress don't get along you don't like each other she will walk the carpet and then you will walk the carpet and sure you can wait in the basement you can wait in your car I don't give a shit I don't feel sorry for you that at your big fancy movie premiere that you were in a basement that like looks totally fine and lovely.

41:00I have such a like a hot take on the basement because and I know everybody's like just Claudia you're not going to be ever team Justin and I'm not but like this is somebody who in my opinion now has been really accused with a lot of proof of sexually harassing female co-stars. None of the female co-stars wanted to be around him they did not feel comfortable so much so that at a work event the premiere you had to be sequestered like a prisoner in the basement like that's what they do with people who are dangerous or like you are a threat like you're not being kept they're being kept from you like everybody was fine to walk together and be together upstairs you were the outlier because you are a threat and you sexually harass these people like I feel I felt like when he released those pictures I was like you're literally admitting that like you had to be kept separate like like a a violent criminal yeah this didn't do for me like I don't feel sorry for you sitting in the basement of a movie theater with all this popcorn and all your friends and family it's it's his big night he worked so hard like people are seriously not okay just about don't he's not gonna fuck you if you write a nice tweet about him like people are like it's so upsetting like this was his big night he worked so hard like girl it's literally not so upsetting it's not upsetting at all it ain't like i'm sorry move the needle i at this point i feel like people have chosen their sides right like at first people were really easily swayed like oh one lawsuit I'm here one lawsuit I'm there and now like the dust has settled and people have decided what team they're on I can safely say I've never really switched from disliking Justin Baldoni um and like nothing I don't think no amount of pages in a lawsuit is going to change people's minds now yeah like enough has been done that point so now also I I feel bad for the courts and the jury that will have to sift through all this and relitigate all of this what state California it was California sorry yes it was because they filmed in California um and it's like as if the people of California haven't been through enough now they have to sit on a jury going through this mindless Real Housewives drama like the receipts like literally it's like Monique and her binder like it's so mind-numbing yeah so they'll duke it out and I guess we'll wait to see who the courts find yeah because you know this is just us and also everyone is selectively reading these documents.