Looking Mighty Tasty: Thursday, January 8th, 2026

0:02good morning girlies it's the toast it's jackson claude and we're your host it's your favorite show the fast five things you need to know we'll start your day off swirly it's the toast i sound amazing welcome back to the toast and happy thursday hope everybody's having a thargelicious thursday and speaking of somebody thargy it's jackie hi koji why are you looking at me like that i don't know i don't like podcasting with you in person you're always looking at me at you we could move away from each other well maybe for tomorrow because our frames are set. Smile. Like there's two chairs on the outside.

0:47Maybe we need to go farther. We need some distance. Like you're seriously looking into my ass. Like you're good at making eye contact. I've always said, even though like I haven't held a traditional job in many, many years that the next time I have a job at a rear, which, you know, God willing is never. Um, if somebody says, you know, the classic interview question, what's your biggest weakness? And it's like, you want to be honest, but you don't want to be like, I suck. Yeah. Yeah. I can't do any jobs. I think I have the perfect answer and it actually is my greatest weakness I cannot hold eye contact with other people it makes me deeply uncomfortable I'm glad you agree that you can't do it because I thought you're about to be like your strength is your eye contact no I wasn't talking about you I was talking about me your strength no no no my greatest weakness is my inability to hold eye contact I find it really uncomfortable if you watch a podcast I'm always looking up I'm like telling a story and I'm like looking at the ceiling okay I don't think you should say that in an interview because I do think that's like a red flag like oh you think it's like a bad I think it's like a weird thing.

1:41I understand why you don't want to maintain eye contact. And hopefully like you don't have to go on a job interview anytime soon. Like just to be clear in this hypothetical scenario, if I am going on a job interview, like that's what we need to be worried about. Cause that means things didn't work out here. And that's bad. I agree. But for future yourself, which, you know, God willing. I think that's like a really big, weird thing to say. That's like, would be like saying like, I find people tasty. Like I like to eat people. It's like serial killer stuff. But why would somebody say that? Like, I find people tasty?

2:17Why did you say that? Is that a quote? No. I find people tasty. Someone who can't make eye contact chops people up and eats them. Oh, okay. I guess. Like, if I can't look someone in the eye, I also find them tasty. But how could I allure them into eating them if I can't even look them in the eyes? A problem for another day. but I just think that's not something that you should admit to someone who doesn't know you like me I love you you want to look at me don't look at me look away don't look at me that's fine I'm literally dating I do I'm always talking to the lord I'm always looking up I understand I'll look here there I won't look at you too hard and I wasn't looking at you in any sort of way no when we first started the show you were definitely you looked at me like I was tasty

3:05i was definitely maintaining eye contact with my partner that's like a weird thing to do i just want to say having like good eye contact is weirder than having bad eye contact i don't know if in the comments do you agree i agree i don't have good eye contact either and now we're just talking about eye contact so i just find it all uncomfortable i'll look over there let's be newscasters today okay hey guys how y 'all doing welcome to the toast happy thursday what did everyone do last night we had tacos at trouts we did have tacos at trout they were really good they were really good i've been trying to eat a lot of protein to like stave off endless snacking and it does help when i eat a lot of protein yeah so that's what i've been up to just thinking of ways to eat like real protein in addition to you know protein bars yeah that's like not what i'm talking about like i need to find like more meat eggs you know what you should do you should go on the Weight Watchers nursing program because like ground chicken, ground beef is zero points.

4:01You can literally eat as much of it as you want. I have to look into it. Same with eggs. Like I think that's a zero point food. She said I have to do Weight Watchers and I have to watch my weight. That's what she said. Yeah. Who doesn't? Everyone has to watch your weight. She said I should do Weight Watchers. I just want you guys to remember that the next time I say anything mildly offensive to her. Was that offensive? I said you should. I did the Weight Watchers nursing program. I didn't lose any weight. I certainly did not watch my weight. I just like tried not to get enormous. You did? Yeah.

4:25What'd you eat? On the Weight Watchers nursing program? Yeah. I'm a volume eater. You definitely do NP. Especially when. I'm a volume eater. No, especially when you're breastfeeding. It's just about how much you can take in in a given period of time. And so that's why I was eating a lot of taco meat, which is zero points if you get a lean ground beef or a lean ground turkey. Anything with ground, you know? We love ground. I. What do people eat like before the ground? Well, they ate ground. But like before the ground machine. You can grind without a machine. I guess you can. People like breast, of course, as do we.

4:55I love breast. Leg and thigh. I don't love leg and thigh. I'm exclusively white meat. And, you know, a steak. Oh, and to be clear on the Weight Watchers nursing program and just the Weight Watchers program in general, I'm pretty sure white meat is zero points. But, like, darker meats that have, like, more things going on, not zero points. Okay. I think. What about a steak? I love steak. I make a nice steak. I haven't made steak for you yet. Do you want to come over for a steak? That's a poor reflection on you, not me. Do you want to come over for steaks? I would love to come over for steaks. Okay, let's set a date.

5:27A mister and sister? A mister and sister. We're doing a triple date with our husbands and our sister. And we're calling it sisters and misters. We're not. Olivia is. And she's like really trying to get the name to catch on. So let's just give it to her. It's cute. I just feel like, I don't know. It's giving six chicks. You love that. I do. But it's like, I don't know if we're having like a theme tonight. Like let's have a game night. Okay. let's do mahjong because I took my mahjong lesson and we haven't even talked about this on the toes we have to play before I forget everything I learned Jackie took a mahjong lesson at her neighbor's house when I've been begging my bitch ass sister since I'm in high school everyone is playing mahjong now and I just feel like it's you know worth mentioning that I've been playing since like the eighth grade shout out to my best friend Alicia and her mom Esther um who taught us how to play and like it was like not a cool thing we would like sit around and play mahjong and everybody thought we were weird and now everyone's like mahjong oh um how did I get here oh yeah and so when I learned how to play I was so excited because it's a four person game and what do I have at home?

6:21Three fucking sisters. I bought a square card table. I bought like a set from Amazon. When I tell you to be try once or we never tried. I don't remember. I feel like we tried once and it ended up in like a fight. Nobody wanted to play. And I was like begging the card table went unused. I believe we actually threw out the card table a couple of months ago. I need to get a card table. You do. Well, I was toggling between, you know, just a foldable card table on Amazon or like an expensive game table. There was a three thousand dollar one And I'm a scout. I'm dying. Right. I think you should get the card table.

6:54Which one? The foldable one. Yeah, yeah. But then I was, and I wasn't going to get like the fancy one. I can barely play. That's something I can treat myself to after a couple wins under my bed. After I take all your money. Yeah, Olivia was getting like hella competitive with it. Good. That's like the kind of energy I've been begging you guys for. We should play for money. And when I win, I can buy my card table. Sure. That's a great idea. So then it's like a communal card table because we all kind of paid for it. Yeah. We need to get a game going before I forget everything I learned. And of course, I already have a pargy board, files and racks and stacks.

7:23She has all the accoutrement. Racks and stacks. She has all the accoutrement, but none of the skill. Shout out Oh My Mahjong. But none of the skill. Picking those out was a real joy for me. And that is motivation to play because it's a pargy game that's incredibly pliny. It's a pliny game. So yeah, keep saying I have none of the skill and I'm going to whoop your ass. Good. No, yeah, I'm bathing you and Olivia into like... It's just hard because I have a newborn baby. that's actually why we haven't played. Yeah. Okay, sorry. I'll just go kill myself. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Because I'm down to clown.

7:57I've been wanting to play. Even for the lesson, I had to wear him in the carrier because I have a baby. Right. Yeah. A Velcro baby. Yeah. Okay. So, sorry. So, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. How are you? I'm doing well. What did I do last night? Like, not much of anything. Oh, yeah. Kind of like big update in my life how you said yesterday, Max, turn two. Like, Ruby rolled. And I told everybody on the Patreon, like, yeah, my baby's, like, not rolling. And every other baby is, like, starting to crawl. He rolled. Like, not a big deal. He sleeps on his stomach now. Rolls back, rolls forth. You need to roll forward?

8:26Oh, no problem. Oh, you need something behind me? I can get that, too. So not a big deal. Like, if your baby's not rolling, he will. Don't worry. Is it everything that you hoped it would be? Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. It's amazing. Does he enjoy it? I mean, he never had, like, a sleep problem. Yeah, I think a lot of people, like, wait for their babies to turn just so they can sleep on their stomach because they're, like, not sleeping well. you know my king 12 hour king never an issue which way yeah and now it's just like you put him to bed on one side boom sometimes i check the camera i'm like are you even in there he's in the corner like oh like i literally didn't see him so it's like a little bit of a panic attack but motherhood is beautiful that's very exciting we're all very proud of him yeah it's kind of been like a big week for my family and he's sort of just like on his own time like he he's kind of like his mother in that sense yeah more like his father i was gonna say more like his aunt his His mother, who's his aunt?

9:11Margo, just like a little stubborn. Oh, I was going to say, takes his time, like his father. Oh, right, slow. That's very generous phrasing. Not lickety split like his mama, showing up early. I was actually talking about this before we started. I don't know if people know this about me. I'm a chronically early person. To the point of borderline embarrassing, like, don't you have a family? I am everywhere 20 minutes early. 20 minutes is a long time. I allot 30 minutes to get anywhere. and in New York it usually takes like 15 to 20. Now I'm like a commuter while I'm here and it's not that serious.

9:45But I am always, always so early to the point where other people when they're on time I'm like you're actually late. Like we've been here all day. Like I was actually early today whereas I'm usually like on time slash late. Because you have a Velcro baby. Because I have a, thank you for understanding. And I was still like after you. Like I saw your car and I was like oh I have to get here early. like I was just early. Oh, you saw my car and I saw your car. I'm like, bitch is still before me. And I was early. I am always early. And I just, I think it's now that we're talking about greatest strengths.

10:16Oh, that is, that's a good one to share with. And it, and it's true too. So I would say, so I feel like that, and I want to be honest to my future employer. So yes, let's do mock interview. Ready? Okay. Three, two, one action. So Claudia, we're really excited to interview you today for this position. I'm sorry that like your show. Can you explain this 11 year? work gap. Can you explain this gap in your career? Yeah. Um, you know, I can. And please do. Oh, sure. Sure. Um, you know, business is a funny thing, Miss Oshry. Oh, sorry. Mrs. Oshry, I know you have a Velcro baby at home. And might I say, you're looking mighty tasty today.

10:59Um, when referring to my 11 year age gap, I feel as though you should mind your own business. When referring to the 11-year gap in my resume, I started a business. And, you know, what makes me such a great candidate for this job? I take risks. I take risks and I know failure. And I wouldn't trust anybody who doesn't know failure. And as the great Taylor Swift one said, no one sees when you lose when you're playing solitaire. And that was me. But I guess I lost. And now everyone knows because I'm here interviewing for this job. So you would say you were failing forward. Yeah. And there's no shame in failing.

11:31Correct. And that's like a good thing you should harp on. I was pursuing my dreams when I'm young. That's the time to do it. Correct. What would you say are your greatest strengths in the workplace? You know, among my many strengths, of which there are many, I would say my greatest strength is my ability to manage time. I would say I'm a chronically online person. You know, as my great, great, great grandmother once said. You're chronically online? Oh, did I say that? Right in slip. Chronically on time. I'm also chronically online, and that's why you should hire me as your social media manager.

12:03But I am a chronically on-time person. As my great-great-grand once said, if you're early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late. And if you're late, well, that's just unacceptable, dear. And what's your biggest weakness? As I'm sure you could surmise during this interview, I do really struggle to maintain direct, steady eye contact. It's something I'm very aware of and something that I actively work on in both my personal and professional life. but it is something that at times I do find challenging. That was a good answer. Why do you think that is? Dig deeper. It probably goes back to my childhood and never feeling fully accepted by my bitch older sister, if I'm being honest.

12:43Yeah, Olivia, she's so weird. Yeah, yeah. Well, thank you for your time today, Claudia. One of my weaknesses is I don't like touching other people. Come on. Why the left hand? It's just a reach for me. clammy now that's why you know why i don't want to shake hands with you oh and to be clear i don't want this job okay you're a bitch and your office sucks and you have no snacks in the pantry i checked well thank you for your time today thank you for your time today thank you more for your time thank you the most thank you more than anybody why don't you break the microphone you're like bed he probably sat here yesterday oh yeah ben did record in the studio yesterday should i spoil who their guest is just because i'm annoying and they got like the most famous person in the world on their podcast no but give clues okay do better blank that's it perfect clue perfect clue if you oh real ones will know yeah it's only for real ones it's only for real ones do better blank it's eileen davidson that's my clue good clue thank you um how are the stories today dan stevens that's my clue oh oh should we just tell him who it is No, no, I'm sorry.

13:53Yeah, Dan Stevens is a great, oh, I love it. It's Lady Mary. The clue is Lady Mary. If you can't press it, well, you'll just have to wait. Yeah, yeah. How are the stories for today? They are good. Like, for Thursday, we're going to continue to update the Celeb Mom Talk drama. Today is the day Traders premieres this evening. I've been seeing TikTok ads for it, so, like, it's not missing me. Okay, great. I'm so excited. Oh, also, if all goes to plan, Redheads will be coming out today. We recorded yesterday. I was downstairs. as I heard the cackles from below. It was really fun. The girls caught up.

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19:29So I do think she's like using all the visibility. As she should, as she should. To her advantage to showcase her new song, as she should. Everyone's talking about her. I'm talking about the song. Yeah. Were you on the toast when her, no. She had her first song come out called Mature. I think it was Ben. And it was perfect because like Ben's obsessed with Hilary Duff. And we were really hyping it up because before it came out, Hilary Duff's back in music. She's done amazing music. And now she's married to this big time magazine editor, Matthew Comey. He's one of the biggest music producers in the world.

19:57Like there's no way this could be a bad song. There's no way this could flop. And we were so wrong because the song Mature that she put out was genuinely like a bad song. Like AI actually could have made a better song. so for the second song I had like little to no hopes and those hopes were met right where I was because the song is also really bad but it also now has like kind of crazy lyrics. Mature did too kind of had like sexually explicit lyrics. This is a little bit more overt and it's also referencing an iconic moment in pop culture herstory so please go on. So she put out a snippet of the song where she's lip syncing to her own song and in a field.

20:30These are the lyrics and unfortunately I'm going to have to read them out. Yeah and it's giving when Jackie had to read the lyrics to WAP. and like uh oh no bruno mars yeah sex with uh sexy red or yeah or whatever your favorite artist announced he's dropping new music oh really yeah i think at the end of this week he has a new album called romantic i think it's called and luke combs and luke combs that's the story yeah so we'll talk about music at the end but um hillary duff's new song here are the lyrics i only want the beginning i don't want the end i want the part where you say goddamn back of a dive bar giving you head Then sneak home late, wake up your roommates.

21:05I want the highlights 10 out of 10, the butterflies from holding your hand before we swept us under the bed and we practically became roommates. I'm touching myself by the front door, but you don't even look my way no more. If you thought I had trouble making eye contact before, I literally can't look at you after that. Okay, let's get into it. It has to be done in order for you guys to understand. Here's the thing. if you're going to be like very sexual in your music a couple of things have to happen so i'd like to bring up two examples of women being sexy and where i think that they've done it right and what the difference is first you have you can't be so like overt right like sometimes you're going to be a little bit more subtle like it took me a while to realize that hailee steinfeld's amazing song love myself is actually a song about masturbation like it actually took me probably 100 listens before i realized and you know like that's good songwriting like it's innuendo i believe the kids call it and the song itself was so amazing that like whatever she was saying it wouldn't have mattered now kind of a more recent reference would by taylor swift which is a crazy song his love was the key that opened my thighs right like that's why you listen to the clean version yes normally the clean version is actually better and it goes to this sentiment yes but even so even the the non-clean version the song is so good like i actually like i don't care i'm able to look past the cringy lyrics.

22:22The first couple of times it was hard. The thing with Hilary Duff is she doesn't have that subtle thing here. It's going to be more overt. And it sounds like one of the worst songs I've ever heard. It sounds like a fake song. So having said all of that, it's going to be a no for me. Additionally, I don't think this is a song put out by someone in their marriage. Because she's talking about the relationship going south. And I'm sure she's talking about a classic theme that anyone can relate to. Right, it's hypothetical. But I do also consider the artist. And so I don't want to, like, unless you guys are getting divorced or like you're telling me about your marital issues, I think that's weird to sing about.

23:00Yeah. I think the weird thing here is that a seasoned pop star with hits under her belt in conjunction with a very seasoned music producer are unable to make anything happen. Like, they're now two failed songs. And a lot of songs fail for a million reasons. even good songs fail right it's it's the industry tiktok whatever but this is just bad music it's bad songwriting it's bad beats it's bad everything and i'm shocked that's the shocking part beyond the lyrics of course these aren't the lyrics of a happily married woman and i believe she's happily married like her husband was just out here defending her so it's like you're singing about nonsense right why not sing why not be authentic the year of authenticity why not speak your truth hill or sing your truth like yeah so that's for me in addition to the fact that it's It's not subtle.

23:45It's very like overt and. And also. Broody. I'm going to say one more thing. Okay. When it comes to like women talking about sexiness. It applies to men too. There are just certain people who do it better. And when I think of Hilary Duff, I think of so many things. And I don't think of like one of the first adjectives is like sexy. That's not who she's played. She's like fun girl next door vibes. Even the video that she put out is not. Because you could say like she's breaking free from Lizzie. She doesn't want to be Razor Voice anymore, even though who would ever run from that. But even the video itself is not congruous.

24:20The vibe of the video is not congruous with the vibe of the song. And I think that's also why Taylor Swift's wood was so hard for people to digest because she is not historically sexy. She's a lot of things, good things. You can't be all things, right? So. Someone who does it really well, I think, is the sexy woman of the sexy lyrics of a year. Let me think. here i'm actually shocked she hasn't come up yet because we always talk about her in this context who breiner sabrina carpenter is always singing about sex sometimes you know that and sometimes you don't these days you know it too much and that's where the issue lies in tears yeah album in general i was just listening to taste in the car and it's actually when you read very much into lyrics like it's a crazy song but she does it well she does it well and it's a combination of aesthetic the photos even like you know everyone was talking about the hair being held the cover of her most recent album that's her thing yes that's a great example thank you for bringing that up and so hillary's just not that girl and to like pivot to it so overtly and so quickly and it's not reading as authentic maybe that wasn't one of her new year's resolutions yeah and i just feel like she so successfully transitioned from like child actress to musician to mom to actor like yeah actor like successful actress that what does putting out music now do for her i do find it interesting when people totally um change lanes like for no reason i feel like ariana is doing that right now you know she's obviously in wicked and now she's going to be in meet the fuckers okay so meet the fuckers they had meet the fuckers two three whatever and now it's like the new one whereas i think ben stiller's the dad and his son is getting married to Ariana Grande, something like that.