Love, Hockey, and Healing: Thursday, July 30th, 2026

6:24Nara Smith:well let me just tell you

6:25Clara D.:like if you're not a Patreon member you should join and go watch that vlog episode that's like at people's favorite episode and just decided to go tost bart's like i had to

6:33Nara Smith:pack using her closet and i was so skinny like oh my god it's and i had so i had amazing things for and i gave her everything and i was the best dressed woman inst bart's like hands down um it was probably the happiest i'd ever been and it was an amazing time and an amazing vlog the

6:50Angela R. White:vlog is amazing it's like it's real peek into like my closet it's a real taste of her trip and

6:55Jackie A.:That trip, that vlog also inspired me because your closet was like very impressive in the sense that like you had clothes for 10 different women.

7:02Nara Smith:You had literally extra small up to like postpartum pregnancy. I am 10 different women. And I, every time I lose three pounds, I throw away all my big clothes. I'm like, ew, I don't need her. Sweeper. And every time I get big, I'm like eventually throwing away my small clothes. So it did really inspire me to like, you know, have a closet for a real woman, you know, just be a little less sweeper when it comes to my sizes. Yeah.

7:23Jackie A.:Because when I lost all the weight on a Zempic, I was like, I'm never going back there. So everything can go. Even my expensive stuff. I got rid of everything. Meanwhile, I had a baby and I need all that clothes. Yeah.

7:32Clara D.:Now, this season of life through the ups and downs, I need a closet that's small through extra large. That's got your back. So that was a really fun vlog. So tomorrow we are taking Margo shopping. We're going to like set a budget. I'm going to dress her. And like I'm definitely going to sort of like push. Well, I always push.

7:50Angela R. White:But like. I know you're pushing an agenda. I'm pushing an agenda of a mature woman. A mature woman, yeah. A mature woman's agenda.

7:57Nara Smith:Unfortunately, I did have to agree to, like since we're making Margaret do this and take time for her day, we do have to pay for her clothes. Right, because she was like,

8:03Angela R. White:well, do I have to pay for everything?

8:04Nara Smith:We can force her to film and then also spend all this money. Do you have to pay for anything?

8:08Angela R. White:She has to call the accounting department.

8:10Clara D.:Let me call cardboard.

8:11Nara Smith:And I agree, but we have to be strict with our budget.

8:13Clara D.:Yeah, so you'll see all the buried down. I'm thinking$500,

8:17Nara Smith:but I know you're going to say that's not enough.

8:18Clara D.:I think, you're right, 500 from you 500 from me a thousand my budget was gonna be a thousand we want to have a good vlog with lots of options things are expensive out here i just want to say i find myself like leaning a

8:32Nara Smith:little too much into my card like the cardboard joke is so funny and like it's like the best thing ever but like i'm like not i'm really not that cheap like i have like cheap tendencies of course but i find myself like leaning into it more becoming like really cardboard just for the sake of the joke like i need to calm down because it's actually like affecting my life now like what let me think just like i told you that thing about like ben's ad we were going to butterfly world oh yeah we were going to butterfly world like with um ben's parents which is like this really cute like little butterfly exhibit and like the tickets are like fit 20 or whatever and i forget what was happening but i was like well bruce doesn't need to go and like they're gonna they were gonna make him go and i'm like don't make him go he was tired or whatever he like wanted to stay home i'm like don't even go we need to buy him a ticket they're like claude it's like a$20 ticket.

9:18Nara Smith:Like you're going to be completely fine. He can go. Yeah. So I. He can go see the butterflies. I feel like cardboard has become a self-fulfilling prophecy and I would like to stop it dead in her tracks. Like I'm really not. You're not cardboard. No. I mean I live

9:29Jackie A.:an extremely lavish lifestyle. Like I'm renting a home in the Hamptons

9:32Nara Smith:for the summer. It's true. I need to like remember who the fuck I am. Wow. Yeah. I'm not cardboard. Like you're you sort of like made me this way. Oh my God. You wore it with such

9:42Clara D.:pride. Cardboard cadets. You started like your own community.

9:45Nara Smith:I love like a little, like a cardboard tip.

9:48Angela R. White:You started like Koji's Cardboard Corner.

9:51Nara Smith:Yeah, Koji's Cardboard Corner. Yeah, no, my Cardboard Cadets. And we are a strong community. So. But I just want to be open and honest with people. Because it was a joke. I have a couple of Birkins. Like I'm not like. It was a joke. I'm not Bradley on a budget.

10:04Clara D.:It was a joke that like could have died the day that I said it. No, but it's so good. And it lived on because of you.

10:10Angela R. White:Yeah.

10:11Nara Smith:Because of you. But I feel that I have leaned in. I have cardboarded a little too close to the sun.

10:15Clara D.:Okay. Well, tomorrow's going to be really fun. Patreon.com slash the toast. We're shopping with Miss Margo.

10:20Nara Smith:Patreon's on fire.

10:21Clara D.:And you can see my skills in action.

10:23Nara Smith:Yeah. No, it is. Even yesterday, the bag that I ended up taking, you completely chose. You are a very helpful person. Yeah. And I'm very encouraging.

10:31Clara D.:It's so funny. When I was shopping with my friends and I was saying how whenever we go shopping, this is my role. I encourage everyone to buy everything. And they were like, and does Claudia do the same? I'm like, no. She tells me I look fat. Yeah, it's true. I look stupid.

10:41Nara Smith:Also, I hate shopping in person.

10:43Clara D.:She tells me everything looks stupid. I always want to leave the store.

10:45Nara Smith:Unless it's a store that like has really cozy chairs for like the husbands and cardboards. Then I'll be like, yeah, try it on, try it on. But I find shopping in person and in store to be so unpleasant that I'm always dying to leave the store.

10:58Clara D.:I find it so invigorating. And that's why the no influencer sign like really, really hurt me. Because as someone who loves shopping, if I walked into a store, it would save like no Jews, you know. Of course. I can't go here either.

11:12Nara Smith:No. And it is funny not to keep, it's like the new Michelangelo where we have to talk about it once a day. But this store is benefiting so greatly from all the buzz on social media. Like the influencer type of culture. The culture that they're hating on is benefiting them so greatly right now. Like the store is packed effort. They have so much engagement on social media that they never had. So it's like, you hate the player. You hate the game, yet you are the player. Funny how that works, isn't it? Funny. I thought of one more thing, wait, I just wanted to say. Okay. Hold on, while we go back.

11:42Nara Smith:You're talking about shit. Oh, do you remember the store Big Drop? Of course. Everyone knows that saleswoman. Yeah. There was a store in the city. It was like an iconic Upper East Side store. I bet it was featured on Gossip Girl. It was so classic. It was on 3rd Avenue. It wasn't like that. It wasn't high end, but it was so classic. Yeah. It was right next to Haru, the sushi place where everyone on the Upper East Side ate. It was just like a very classic place. And it was like low-key expensive, like regular clothes. You know? It didn't need to be so expensive. And they had the most insane salespeople there.

12:09Nara Smith:Woman. There was one woman. It was a company mentality. Like they, you couldn't walk into the store because people used to joke, they used to like stand outside and pretend like they were getting sucked in.

12:19Jackie A.:Like it was the craziest place. Like I actually bought a ring there once. Like when I was like 17, I'm like, what am I doing? They had, that's like the worst type of sales associate.

12:30Nara Smith:It was such a truly like toxic workplace. That place was crazy. But that strip, if you were like alive. I mean, scoop. Scoop, yeah, like that four block radius was just like the place to be. Atlantic Grill, Scoop, EJ's.

12:46Angela R. White:Was there a Pinkberry there? There's a Pinkberry second. No, no, that's not the same strip. Too high.

12:52Nara Smith:Second, we're on third and it's lower. But it's like, Atlantic Grill, Haru, big drop. EJ's, Skip, Atlantic Grill. Like those five blocks. That was probably the happiest time of my whole life, those five blocks.

13:02Clara D.:That and the other thing you said before was that that was the happiest time, doing the vlog in St. Barts. Okay, that was the happiest time of my life.

13:10Nara Smith:Sorry if it's just like had a happy life.

13:12Clara D.:Yeah, like the more the merrier. The more the merrier.

13:15Nara Smith:So many moments.

13:16Clara D.:We love happiness. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what we were up to. I majed a lot yesterday.

13:23Angela R. White:I played with friends and then I came home and like Ben was just ready to go. I've like seriously made monsters. Like I'm just trying to relax and Ben's like you want to play maj.

13:29Jackie A.:And I never thought like I would be the type of person turning down maj games. Every day Ben and I.

13:33Clara D.:But it's like we have to do other stuff too. Ben and I look at each other. We're like Siamese. You guys are crazy. We sort of like cut out the middlemen.

13:39Angela R. White:Me. much like quince yes right no you've cut me out yeah because like sometimes you want to mash and sometimes you don't and like when you don't i love mash more than anyone i made it my whole personality but it's like there is a time and place for it and like for you guys no it's always the time and place except for after dinner like that's when i'm not mashing but when you don't

13:57Clara D.:want to do something like you don't do it but like if you guys were mashing i'm not flexible and i personally didn't have the itch in that moment but like my whole family's mashing like yeah i'm gonna mas right um so that's why like we can't really go by you anymore and i'm not upset

14:08Nara Smith:that you guys are like love Siamese that's great that's great that's great I am just a little bit

14:14Angela R. White:more discerning about like time and place I don't know I don't know but now like good luck getting a time with us I've made genuine monsters but in a beautiful way yeah this is all I wanted like my

14:26Nara Smith:whole life yeah I always like had an easy time getting Ben to play but I've like wanted you and my sisters like to play Mahjong it's a four-person game you and my sisters as if I'm not you plus the sisters i'm not a sister i've always wanted like we grew up in a house rumors are gonna start it's a four they already have it's a four person game we have four girls in the house like perfect

14:43Clara D.:yeah it's my dream yeah no but now it's it's it's the time it's a reality except like it's just me

14:52Angela R. White:and ben works for me when margo comes she'll play oh yeah miss margo i think she's coming today

14:57Clara D.:word on the street word on the street oh and then the other happening of yesterday

15:04Angela R. White:bruno bruno's annual pancreatitis flare-up has begun bruno only gets sick in the hamptons

15:11Clara D.:because he as i've told you guys he eats so much when we're here there's two guys bruno is fucking enormous bruno is getting so much weight there's two children two babies baby led weaning he like picks up scraps all day long and yesterday like he was throwing up all day and was sick he obviously has mild pancreatitis which he gets every summer because it's like

15:31Angela R. White:this every summer like there's more people in the house there's more food for him just when he's getting back to his og weight we go to the hamptons i know like he needs to spend the summer at a fat farm yeah i know a place a fat camp for dogs no for adults oh i've been to it for dogs i think

15:48Clara D.:he would love it because yeah he spends like all the year like you know trimming getting in shape and he's looking good he comes out here for summer and he just bulks up and i feel bad but you know what like it makes him so happy until a point and now he's sick so he overate to the point of like

16:01Nara Smith:genuinely it was it was all good and fun until he made until he's like not feeling well so

16:05Angela R. White:yeah oh now zach is like using this to be like he's not gonna sleep in the bed with us anymore i'm kind of with zach on that like ever again oh i don't know about ever again he was like

16:14Clara D.:the last night he slept in the crate he needed that and he needed to sleep through the night like no co-sleeping for bruno but he was like and never and now he's not gonna sleep with us anymore that's just like that's unnecessary i say that well that doesn't work for me yeah does Zach not like

16:29Angela R. White:co-sleeping with Bruno I don't know

16:30Clara D.:because there's so many of us in the bed but like Bruno's the best sleeper in my family yeah why does he get the boot I don't know why he's a problem I don't know either I was like that won't work like that's stride clock like if Bruno doesn't get to sleep with us like that's what does he get all of his the love that he gets in the day like I was like honestly like this won't stand he's like it's me or Bruno in the bed I was like you don't see you on the couch I was like you don't want to go there

16:51Nara Smith:there's a battle you're not gonna win

16:53Clara D.:and last night when I was tossing and turning in the night, I genuinely was like, where's Brudo? But he needed to be quarantined. Yes, last night. But he's trying to use this as a going forward measure, as an excuse for him to never sleep with us again. He's literally not the problem in the bed. Broody, my feet were so cold

17:15Angela R. White:because no one was laying on them.

17:16Nara Smith:Broody. I actually hate when Romeo lays on my legs. Theo, it's not just a Romeo thing. Get off my legs. Get off my legs. Get off.

17:27Angela R. White:And I wish you a hearty mazel tov. You see that comment I sent you? Yeah.

17:33Clara D.:I got to the mic. I didn't have a pen. Pen and paper. That was Claudia.

17:40Jackie A.:Like me wishing everyone a hearty mazel tov. Like it's insane. And look at so much mazel you have in your life. Like all because of the one wish. The one wish. The one wish for me. I'm a powerful. I was a powerful young girl. Your wish for me. And look. Come to fruition. poo poo it's beautiful

17:55Angela R. White:now it is Thursday so I think we've thoroughly like combated the allegations of PFFB yes yes of the shortening of the PFFB we would never we would never just like hide from you we would never it's my personal favorite part of the show what's your favorite part of the show that's an amazing

18:12Jackie A.:question it's not really like a part it's like when sometimes I enter like a flow state you know where I just can't be stopped okay and that's my

18:20Nara Smith:favorite part and when do you

18:21Clara D.:feel that that happens

18:23Angela R. White:the magic of turdy is that like it can happen anytime anywhere do you find like more so that happens during the stories or the pff i think maybe the stories interesting because it's like

18:34Nara Smith:i enter a flow statement i can just like make fun of people and that's what i do in the stories so

18:38Clara D.:fun so fun um okay let's get into the fast five stories that you do need to know and the fast

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21:45Jackie A.:Probably the Lord. Visit Outshine Fruit Bars in the freezer aisle at retailers nationwide. You know I can't answer that question, Jackie.

21:51Clara D.:I know, I know. Well, you could have said Ben.

21:53Angela R. White:No, Foo. Right, right, right, right. Foo is my best friend. It's true. Such a good listener.

21:59Nara Smith:It's probably my favorite person to talk to just because of the lack of, you know, I don't have to interrupt him because he doesn't really say anything.

22:05Angela R. White:So that's who you would take on the Outshine sweepstakes?

22:07Nara Smith:Absolutely. Abs a motherfucking low-lay. What is the vibe for the stories today? Let's find out. Jackie's iPad's charging.

22:16Clara D.:Now that it's charged. The vibe for the stories today is sort of all over the place, but with a little bit of fear, because I've just been seeing people yelling at me about the stories. And it's so funny, because they'll be like, why don't you talk about Tony Romo's DUI? Oh, wait. Actually, can we? We sure can, but then I feel like if I talked about it, people would be like, what are these stories?

22:36Nara Smith:If you brought it up, I would have been like, question mark, except that the body cam footage has gone viral. So he definitely was drunk, which is, of course, like so bad. But I guess like the cop broke a lot of protocols. Like you can, maybe it's like state dependent, but you can decline a field sobriety test. And he like didn't know what to do. So he's like, can I call my lawyer? And they didn't let him. And I think that's illegal. So I do think while he definitely drove drunk, I think that it will get thrown out.

23:01Angela R. White:The guy like broke a lot of rules. It's all on camera. I thought you were going to say like in the other way, like making special treatment for Tony.

23:06Nara Smith:No, no, no. And I don't think that the guy knew who Tony Romo was at all. And, like, Tony just kept laughing because they were like, have you ever had any head injuries? They, like, ask you that when you do the field sobriety test. And he was, like, cracking up because he's, like, a football player, like, probably with CTE. He was looking forward to cracking up. Yeah, yeah. It actually was, like, as far as, like, celebrity body cam footages go, obviously, you know, the number one reigning queen is Reese Witherspoon. This was a pretty good one for Tony. Yeah, the thing is, like, I actually really weirdly, like, like Tony Romo a lot.

23:33Nara Smith:Of course, Jessica Simpson has a lot to do with it. and you know me and my like hard line in the sand with the DUI so this won't be as easy as like Sam Hunt Bella Hadid in terms of like cutting them off from my life completely

23:45Angela R. White:right right right Karen it's a Karen Huger situation

23:47Nara Smith:it's a Karen Huger situation like I think Tony Romo is so handsome and I love what he did with Jessica Simpson during their time together and I think he has like a really cute wife and kids it's like it's actually I'm sorry it's insane to drive drunk when you have kids I'm sorry like it's always insane it's insane to drive drunk but you can sometimes explain it away Like she was young or whatever. Like you literally have like multiple children at home. Like that's insane. And you're so wealthy. And like you're in an urban area. You're in like Dallas. Take an Uber. Yeah. I'm sorry. It's like his is bad.

24:16Clara D.:Yeah. So that's what like people are saying. So today stories are, yeah, sort of all over the place. I'm sure people will complain. That's fine. Complaining is engagement.

24:24Jackie A.:So feel free to air your grievances in the comment section.

24:26Clara D.:And they're in like no particular order. I will say. Because I'm like even trying to find like what's the lead story. And there's not like a.

24:31Nara Smith:I mean, if you have it, I would say the lead story is that two couples from Love Island went on Watch Happens Live last night. Who? Is that weird? It was Bryce and Trinity, which I genuinely think would have been enough. But I think Andy doesn't really watch the show and they needed more people. And then of course, industry plants, Carlin and I were there. They were sitting on the bar stools behind Brinity and Trice. Okay. I cannot say their names. Trinity and Bryce. Oh, I see. They were sitting so far apart. It was legit so weird. There were a couple of weird moments and interesting moments. But all in all, I thought it was actually rude that Trinity and Bryce didn't get their moment.

25:02Nara Smith:They're the winners. You go on a press tour. Like, Carlin and I are three minutes old.

25:06Jackie A.:Like, if I'm Trinity, I'm annoyed.

25:08Clara D.:Yeah. I won. Also, this is just, like, kind of weird because there's a reunion coming.

25:11Jackie A.:So, they've all been, like, very quiet in terms of podcasts. Like, I feel like everyone always goes on. We had Kenzie on Call Her Daddy, and that was it. Not even anyone else on Call Her Daddy.

25:22Nara Smith:And none of the other people, I feel like it has to do with that new Peacock contract that we talked about.

25:26Clara D.:No, but then why was Kenzie allowed on?

25:29Nara Smith:Because, like, they don't want to stifle everyone so much that no one's talking about it, you know? I think that they're also waiting for, I think this only helps the reunion.

25:38Clara D.:And then after the reunion, everyone goes on podcasts.

25:41Jackie A.:Maybe there's like less of an embargo on the Vile Files.

25:44Angela R. White:Because like seriously, Brinity on Vile Files when? Like this is their bread and butter. Brinity on Call Her Daddy. Yeah. Well, our story was also going to be Nara Smith went on Call Her Daddy. Yes, she did. It was like very jarring to hear her talking voice. I know. Because it's like she's very much a performer on her Instagram as like you would probably know.

26:01Nara Smith:I think that she, a lot of people, I didn't know this, but I don't think a lot of people understand her schtick and that it is schtick. And so she literally went on the podcast to set the record straight.

26:10Clara D.:Yeah, that it is satire, which of course it is. She's like, I was feeling hungry, so I just whipped up. Made gum from scratch. And then four hours later, it was already like, of course, if you're hungry.

26:20Nara Smith:No, and you're wearing like a$10 ,000 Schiaparelli dress.

26:23Clara D.:You're like, you can't wait four hours. No, of course.

26:25Nara Smith:That's where we're always saying like media literacy is at an all-time low in this country.

26:29Clara D.:And it's also like her content is very much like cooking videos. It's like creating content. But it's not like her lifestyle day to day. It's not. That's what she said too. Like so you can't just because she's in the kitchen making cooking content like you can't label her a trad wife. You don't know how she spends the rest of her day.

26:43Angela R. White:Right.

26:44Nara Smith:And I think at first when she first launched on the scene and people didn't really get her myself included she was labeled a trad wife. But if you paid attention for five more minutes I don't consider her a trad wife at all.

26:52Jackie A.:And she pretty much went on call her daddy to tell people that like she does not want to be looped into this conversation.

26:58Clara D.:Yeah. So she's getting candid about being labeled a trad wife and what people get wrong about her. She opened up about crying to her husband about a situation where someone on her team refused to see her as anything other than a trad wife. She said, I'd be like, what is happening? Did they not know that I worked as a model? I've been working since I've been 14. All these things. But I think I'm very, very compassionate. I understand where that can come from. But then the more the narrative started swelling, I was like, well, let me say something. So I remember posting this video of this morning routine.

27:25Clara D.:and my voiceover was me being a working mom and traveling and kind of debunking all of that. But then a lot of the comments were still that narrative and I realized that a lot of people that are very stuck in this narrative do not want to be corrected.

27:35Angela R. White:True. Yeah. I don't really like know what she is because her videos are low-key comedy. I would say she's really a content creator. Well, yeah, no, but I mean like

27:46Nara Smith:what genre of content creation? Like she's not a trad wife. She's not really like giving cooking tips.

27:52Clara D.:I would say cooking. She has a cookbook coming out. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she is giving cooking tips. Like if you want to learn how to make something from scratch.

27:59Nara Smith:It's like hard to, a practical application of policy.

28:01Clara D.:But it's very like, she's creating videos that are like siloed. She's not, she doesn't have a stream of stories every day. Like come along with me for the day. Like she's very much not Ballerina Farm.

28:12Nara Smith:No, not at all. She's just friends with Ballerina Farm, which I think made people, like gave her the Trad Wife Association even more.

28:18Clara D.:I would say also like being so young and having a lot of children. Like I think people might have used that as another reason to just assume she's a trad wife but like I think she like makes her cooking video and then like

28:29Angela R. White:lays by the pool and orders McDonald's like yes she's also Mormon which I think also gives like a trad wife smell yeah but she's not like if you really like think about her life at a glance she's

28:41Clara D.:not yeah and then I think even hearing her talk on this interview even if you just saw the clips and you didn't like watch the whole episode like it's her real self yeah her voice is so different Yeah, she doesn't talk like that. She's like a normal voice. Yeah, yeah.

28:55Angela R. White:Yeah.

28:55Nara Smith:And she was wearing like jeans and a sweater.

28:57Clara D.:Yeah. Not, you know, high fashion.

29:00Angela R. White:Correct. Couture in the kitchen. Mm-hmm.

29:06Yeah.

29:06Clara D.:So I didn't know she was feeling so misunderstood. I felt like she kind of has like a dream career.

29:11Nara Smith:Where it's actually like it almost benefits her to be misunderstood in the sense that, first of all, it gives her like a real sense of like private and public life, which is huge. And two, like she does benefit. She doesn't want to be called a trad wife. Like that's the topic of the moment. And everyone's talking about you. Like it's just as somebody who's job it is to like get attention and stuff. It does ultimately benefit her.

29:30Clara D.:Yeah. And it just seems like everyone who's called a trad wife is saying I'm not a trad wife. It's so true. So it's like who is.

29:36Angela R. White:Who are the trad wives?

29:37Nara Smith:Where are the proud trad wives? Well, the thing is like if you're a trad wife whose name we know, you're not a trad wife because you're a working woman and you're generating revenue, probably making more money than your husband. So the trad wives, like the true trad wives are no names. It's true. They're your neighbor, you know?

29:53Clara D.:Yeah, and that's just like stay-at-home moms.

29:56Nara Smith:Yeah, people who like have traditional gender roles. Yeah, stay-at-home moms. I think that trad wife like is a little bit more extreme in the sense that they make everything from scratch. And like they do, you know, granola type, have chickens.

30:09Clara D.:Yeah, but like you say that it's a bad thing.

30:11Nara Smith:No, no, no. Technically, I guess anyone who is a traditional wife and like makes dinner for their husband every night and raises the kid. And doesn't work. And doesn't work. We would not know who they are.

30:20Angela R. White:Correct. That's true.

30:22Clara D.:Essentially, nobody's a trad wife. Nobody's a trad wife in this conversation that we're having. Right. Yeah. It's just so weird. People get so bogged down by the label of trad wife. And then they're like, I'm not. It's like influencer. I'm not an influencer. Exactly. What's wrong with being an influencer? What's wrong with being a trad wife?

30:37Nara Smith:That's exactly what I was saying yesterday. These female-dominated spaces are just always getting negative connotations. Trad wife has a negative. I'm sorry. Nobody wants to hear me, but I am right about that. Yeah.

30:49Angela R. White:um also i personally like i'm over the trad wife conversation i just feel like it's not a coherent conversation we're not hearing no one knows what they're saying and it's so divisive amongst women

31:02Nara Smith:like we're just like hating people who like live different lives than us and make different choices and i don't think it's good for us i don't i really don't i'm not a hater no me neither like you want a girl boss to the sun slay mama slay send me a paycheck if you want to do like legit nothing all day like slay mama slay i don't know have you heard about aha but eva oh i have but

31:21Clara D.:wait but you're saying legit nothing again wrong sorry no no but i'm saying even if you like let's say like no i'm sorry if you want to do legit nothing all day i have a problem with that okay

31:30Nara Smith:fine no you're right no you're so right not me like exposing my own misogyny by saying doing nothing all day that's not what i fucking meant if you want to not work and raise children cook tend to your husband like i homemade i have seriously no problem with that like zero and

31:43Clara D.:Can you know someone argue it's harder than nine to five?

31:45Nara Smith:Oh, 1000%. Like I feel like I don't even know what to call myself. Cause I'm very much like a stay at home working mom. Like I do genuinely half and half. Um, and I don't know which I would prefer to like, I think I prefer to be home all day.

31:58Clara D.:If you had to choose one.

31:58Nara Smith:I would prefer to be home all day, but let me tell you, it's like, it's so hard. Yeah. It is so hard. Um,

32:05Angela R. White:you know about a Javariva? Has she made it to reals? She has. My heart. It's rage bait. Now it is.

32:11Nara Smith:What did it start out? it was just genuine she's like this 19 year old girl she's married and she was like hi I'm 19 I don't have a degree I don't have a job I cook for my husband they don't have kids she's like I cook for my husband and her whole life is like her husband her husband her husband and the video she was a very small content creator the video went so viral of course like it started you know conversations amongst everyone like she went private she's super young I started to feel like really bad for her and she just like kind of shut down and then she came back like a week later and I'm so curious like what her strategy was going to be and she has taken on this like very much rage baiting um she does live this lifestyle and like people think it's crazy but now all of her videos are like come with me to lick my husband's ass like she's really extreme um just to piss people off and it's funny now but like but it is a outsized version of her reality like she is 19 she doesn't work she just sort of like literally cooks like cooks her husband all day and like dresses her husband and it's like my husband my husband my husband um and of course like you could would argue both sides like it's crazy or it's like sweet like it's just i'll say i've seen i

33:15Clara D.:think i saw the original video i did the original video i've not been able to get through a whole video i don't enjoy the content me neither like i just i saw one of her like making sourdough and like rage baiting about like some shit yeah and i was like this isn't like enjoyable for me no me

33:28Nara Smith:neither but it was like the perfect time for her video to go viral because everyone was like talking about yesteryear and it's like i'm personally so over this conversation like we're just obsessed with what other women do.

33:38Clara D.:And also, like, I want to see, like, real. You know, people, like, I don't want to see your fake, like, oh, I'm making this, like, big stupid cake because my husband said he wanted this. Like, I just, like, I want to see people, like, doing, like, you know, making life beautiful. And it's not taking them all day. Like, in the in-between. You know what I mean? Like, that's what we're all trying to do. We're all busy. We either work or have kids. And it's like, but you still want to make dinner. So like I'm interested in really, you want to make your home beautiful. Like I want to see people who can accomplish not everything, but like most of everything, you know?

34:13Clara D.:And that's very aspirational. Inspiring. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

34:16Nara Smith:I'm just like so over this conversation. Like it's tired to me at this point. It's like when people were like, I hate the word moist. It's like, I tried. I can't, it's like, it's actually becoming like boring conversation to me.

34:24Clara D.:I agree. And it's also like, it's not actually like, it's not good for women. No, but it's what everyone is saying is, does not make sense. Cause none of these people are trad wives. And if they were, I wish you a hearty mazel tov. Extremely hearty. Are you ready for our next story? Some memoir news.

34:42Angela R. White:Angela R. White, the artist formerly known as Blac Chyna, is announcing her new memoirs. It's called Sober Mine, Letting Go of Blac Chyna and Living My Faith. I love this.

34:56Nara Smith:First of all, I had literally forgotten about Blac Chyna, which is just a testament to how well she's doing. Her journey is so inspiring. Like I actually think that this book will change lives. I would love to learn like how she did it. Like she really turned her life around completely. It's very rare to see people like truly change in the public eye, like so wholly. And she did that. And I think that, of course, there'll be interesting tidbits in there about the Kardashians. And like, you know, I think that while she was struggling a lot,

35:25Jackie A.:they did pick up a lot of the responsibilities when it came to dream. And I think now, even like the whole lawsuit thing, like is awkward.

35:34Nara Smith:I am curious like what her feeling about them is. Cause like they did support her, like maybe not in ways that she thought at the time, but like now in hindsight when she couldn't really be there.

35:46Clara D.:Yeah.

35:47Nara Smith:They did do a lot.

35:48Clara D.:My only like concern with the book is like, it sounds a little like it's a little bit more like self-help and less like memoir. Right. Like this is what happened to me. So it says like for years, people knew me for headlines, opinions and assumptions, but now they'll have the opportunity to hear directly from my heart. So we're mine is not just a story about where I've been. It's about who God, who God helped me become. There were times I felt broken, lost, ashamed, and I would never get another chance. I know what it feels like to have people judge you for your worst moments while never seeing your heart.

36:15Clara D.:This book is proof that no matter how far you fall, healing is possible. No,

36:20Nara Smith:I mean, I love, but you're right. Like hopefully it's like pulling from her own experience. Yeah. But regardless, like I think,

36:28Clara D.:I think she will have to tell her whole story in order to like get to the part of like the healing and the faith. So we'll get, those years like from her pov i'm curious what the status is of like their relationships the co-parenting with rob

36:43Nara Smith:i feel like you could tell for a while that dream was like always with the kardashians just because they share so much and like literally every picture every sleepover chloe's house chloe's um it doesn't appear to be that way anymore anything for her kids like she does it for three

36:56Clara D.:for dream yeah like if she's getting something like i don't know it's always three of them it's So as if she has three.

37:02Nara Smith:Yeah, it is. And when she had her necklace, like she had like T for True, Tatum, and she had a D for Dream. And she got a lot of shit for that. But like at the time, I think she really was like taking on so much of the parenting responsibility.

37:14Clara D.:No, and it's like a dream is always in her house and like she's wearing a necklace with the two kids. Like it's for Dream. Of course. And it's like, sure, maybe people will have something to say about it. But like I think Chloe only cares what Dream thinks about it.

37:23Nara Smith:Yeah. I don't know if it doesn't appear to be like that extreme anymore. I know they do include dreaming stuff and like cousins stuff, of course.

37:31Angela R. White:But it doesn't look like she's like living at Chloe's house. Would we even know?

37:34Clara D.:Because like we don't follow them. Like Chloe doesn't share so much on social media. But she still shares a lot.

37:40Nara Smith:Like about the kids too.

37:41Clara D.:And we haven't had a new season in a while. We haven't had a new season. So I don't really know. I just like hope that, you know.

37:47Angela R. White:And I just feel like the last time I saw Chloe do something, I like remember thinking like, oh, it's three. Right. No, it was three for a while. Yeah. I guess we'll find out in the memoirs. But this sounds really good.

37:56Clara D.:You know what? I heard I need to look this up that Madison Beer has a memoir coming out or already already out

38:03Angela R. White:I think we should read it I actually like want memoirs of a beer to just confirm that that's what I mean when I say like the strangest career of all time well you know Miley Cyrus also has miles to go I feel like it's like a miles to go sort of vibe like a young adult no no that's

38:18Clara D.:coming of age story it's her story but it's like they're short like right you know Madison Beer the half of it a memoir oh it looks moody 4.16 on goodreads that's really good read me the synopsis i will it came out in 2023 so like relatively relevant a memoir from singer songwriter madison beer chroniling the past decade of her life spent in the spotlight the ups the downs and the in-betweens that you won't see on social media discovered at 12 years old madison beer was one of the first artists to have her entire life documented online over the past decade she has navigated the spotlight as a child through her teenage years and now as a young woman in her 20s.

38:54Clara D.:In the half of it, Madison pulls back the curtain to show the behind the scenes of her journey from reckoning with mass hate online and the time her private pictures were leaked to battling suicidal thoughts while making her highly acclaimed debut album, Life Support, and her recovery since then. I kind of want to read it. Yeah, she does look like a crazy story. It's 176 pages, very reasonable. You could do that today. So could you.

39:14Angela R. White:You should read it too. You like love her. I do, and I feel like I know. No, I feel like there's like a, I saw a clip of her talking on a podcast about like when her label dropped her and everyone dropped her. Was that what she went on color dating? Why did everyone drop her?

39:28Nara Smith:That's what I mean. I think she was like low-key blackballed because of like the whole Justin Bieber scooter brawn thing. That's just a theory people have.

39:33Clara D.:No, but it sounded like she was canceled. Like in a day, everyone dropped her. So that's a cancellation, not just like a, we are slowly disassociating from you.

39:40Nara Smith:Perhaps it had something to do with like, well, she did have, when she was super young, like had like nude photos leaked. Yeah. Maybe like now you would never drop a young girl for having like her privacy invaded. But back in the day, it was like, you're a slut.

39:50Clara D.:Yeah.

39:51Nara Smith:Maybe.

39:51Clara D.:I kind of want to read it. Do it. I think I will. But I also have to read the next Redhead's book. I was watching Josh Herbert. What's his name? Oh my gosh. This is what I wanted to say. I finished off campus. Oh my God. Leading story. That's what I meant to share with the class. And? What a show. What a show. I seriously was crying during the pop showcase. I know. Like it was so good. The show was so amazing. I don't know what's wrong with the world that it was like so misrepresented in terms of like are you watching off campus I have to watch in private like yeah there's really like nothing that crazy about it it has a lot of heart considering how much nudity and pornography we are accustomed to we are accustomed to like this was really not anything different so much heart like I love so many characters and I really like I wasn't loving Ali in the beginning of the show and I was like I will definitely be missing next season season two by the end like Ali and Dean.

40:45Clara D.:I love Dean. Ali and Dean are everything to me. Agreed. This Hunter Davenport brunch is just so crazy. I know. And then Hannah and Garrett like I'm so happy for them. I really needed them to like stop being broken up. Of course.

40:56Nara Smith:It was like very painful to watch him be broken up.

40:58Clara D.:It was. The only thing I didn't love was like their reunion scene after the pop showcase. Like I didn't like what he was saying. What did he say? I don't remember. He was just saying like it was actually kind of icky because he was like because her song was like the girl I am today right it's not who I was because of the girl I used to be so it's all about like the girl she is and he was like the girl that you are like I want to be more like the girl that you are and like I was like you want to be a girl

41:27Clara D.:I guess yeah that I just thought I was just waiting for him to be like I love you like I need to be with you yeah I love you that's all I need not like I want to be like that girl I want to be like you ew I guess don't be like me be your own I was just like so excited to see them together like i was no saying i was no because i just like needed them to say like the obvious which is like i love you so much like i only want to be with you not like i want to be a girl

41:52Nara Smith:i'm seriously cracking up i'm so glad you like the show like seriously i truly loved it i think

41:58Clara D.:there's something wrong with everyone in my life that there was like a huge conversation like would

42:01Nara Smith:she like it you are seriously like impossible to predict like you i love that for me can't put you in a box like don't blame us okay don't zone um okay you know what i like being impossible to

42:15Clara D.:predict you can put me in a box i would agree with that great but of course i loved the show it had so much heart and soul and it was just it was gripping stuff it was like gripping stuff and like garrett graham like you get it i do but for me the show it was like my takeaway from the show wasn't like garrett graham garrett graham oh mine is my takeaway from the show was like love and hockey. Love wins. Yeah. And healing. Of course. There's a lot of healing that needed to be done that she did at the pop showcase. I'm glad she didn't win the pop showcase because like then it would have been too long.

42:46Clara D.:But her song was. And also you can't win

42:48Nara Smith:a competition you entered five minutes before. Yeah.

42:50Clara D.:Her song was really good. When she like was doing her pop showcase and. Which was so raise your voice by the way. Yes. Yes. And she like looked out and she saw all of them like sitting. In the front row. In the front row. Like not just Garrett but like she has all these friends now. She had like two friends at the start of the show. And she was this like loser. Yeah. Yeah. And it just was, and like Jules is her friend and like it was just this testament to like the girl she is today is because of the girl she used to be. A thousand percent.

43:18Angela R. White:It was so beautiful. Ugh, I love, I'm so glad to hear that. So that was my only note.

43:22Clara D.:Like the reunion scene didn't give what it needed to give.

43:25Angela R. White:That's fair.

43:27Clara D.:Looking forward to season two. Of course. I'm sad for Allie and Dean. Won't miss it for the world. And I love Dean. Me too. I really do. Me too. De Laurentiis. Dean. De Laurentiis and Bo his friend is apparently a football player Bo Maxwell in real life no no no like in the show that's why he's not on the hockey team oh he might be from like in this

43:43Nara Smith:universe like another franchise where the woman who wrote the book has like a a bunch of football

43:47Clara D.:books do you know what I mean got it well Dean's friend Bo Joanna's brother like he's not a hockey

43:53Nara Smith:player god I didn't get the sense that he was I thought he was like a random but the fact that he's football makes me think that there's another series coming about the football players okay and

43:59Clara D.:then also like I can't get over the injustice that they lost all the games that they played all season and confusion because Garrett's suspended for four games and he's ineligible for all the games that he played earlier in the season. But after these four games, he can play again. Yeah. But, but he, that was like, did the practice getting off.

44:17Nara Smith:That's him getting off like Scott Frey.

44:19Clara D.:No, but he did the practice with the Bruins. Like if they said he's not eligible to be a college hockey player because he did the practice with the Bruins. Why can he play again in four games? I don't know. So I'll have to talk to the NCAA. I don't run the league. I'm sorry. I'll have to talk to the NCAA about that.

44:31Angela R. White:Yes, please do.

44:33Clara D.:So, yeah. So what? Those are my thoughts. Are you ready for our next story? Which, seriously, like, I didn't know this was happening, but I needed to know. What? Jacob Tremblay. Oh, of course. The Unabomber. Is playing the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, in first look at troubling new Netflix film. So, Ted Kaczynski is the Unabomber, and he will be played by Jacob Tremblay. He will be starring as the infamous domestic terrorist who coordinated and carried out a series of mail bombings that persisted for nearly two decades. in Netflix's forthcoming film out this September.

45:06Nara Smith:Now, you guys might be wondering, like, why this is a big deal. And if you don't know who Jacob Tremblay is, he's the little boy from Room and the little boy who literally stole the hearts of Americans many years ago. He's continued to work in a couple of capacities, but I think he's maintained, like, a pretty decent childhood.

45:19Angela R. White:He did Wonder, but, like, a couple of movies. He doesn't know. He does a lot of movies, but, like, he's a kid, so he's, like, also, he's not a celebrity. Right. But this, I think this is, like, his foray into adulthood. This is the role of a lifetime.

45:30Clara D.:Yeah, because the movie, this movie, zeros in on his early years, including his time as a student under controversial Harvard professor Henry Murray. So the Unabomber went to Harvard. And I think there was like a bunch of like really like twisted experiments conducted at that time at Harvard, which is like a lot of people don't know about that time. So it like focuses on what happened there. The Unabomber included. But like it was just like a crazy thing that happened. but I'm a little fearful because I'm reading like the description that it's like sympathetic towards the Unabomber you know

46:07Nara Smith:I'm kind of afraid to bring this up but like are you familiar with what's going on with Lindsay Clancy I see headlines from the New York Post it's like really upsetting so she's a woman on trial because she killed her three kids like confirmed it's not like a so obviously like guilty but when you learn about like what I know it's like not me giving sympathy to like the woman who killed her kids but like what she went through like she experienced something called postpartum psychosis

46:29Jackie A.:and she went to like a hundred doctors who like over prescribed her she was on like so many antidepressants she literally went to her doctor said i'm hallucinating i don't know what's real

46:37Nara Smith:and like all these doctors like genuinely failed her to the point where like she was in psychosis and she killed her three kids like so i feel i don't even know how to feel about it because it's like when you hear about what her experience was up until that point you're like well like nobody helped her and like her husband's on trial and it's like where were you like and but then she also like killed her three kids so it's like where do we go from here i don't know that's crazy it's a really crazy story yeah that's i don't know what's gonna happen like like she did kill them yeah but there is this like insanely lengthy medical record of her like seriously like not being okay for an extremely long time yeah and sometimes like when people even if they kill like

47:14Angela R. White:they're like mentally unfit right so it's like do you get off for that i don't know i don't know

47:18Nara Smith:what's gonna happen that's really it's really crazy i don't really like want to get so into it

47:21Clara D.:because it's like very upsetting yeah it says here like the movie is the tale of a young man who feels increasingly disenfranchised by society and decides to take up violence as a means of

47:32Angela R. White:revenge oh so it's giving like unabomber origin story yeah like feeling bad for him right how

47:38Clara D.:many people did he kill like hundreds dozens i think um it's told across two thailandians the creation and then the capture of him you know like unabomber is this sort of blind spot for me even

47:49Nara Smith:though you did recently explain to me like who he was and so i know a little bit more but maybe this jacob trembling movie is like what i need i'm also i am gonna watch because also another

47:55Jackie A.:blind spot for me is the idaho murders but apparently netflix just released an amazing documentary about it so i think i'm gonna watch that yeah that's because the trials are happening

48:04Angela R. White:or coming up um brian code number i thought the trial's over oh is it yeah all right so i guess

48:11Nara Smith:I'll find out in the documentary.

48:12Clara D.:Yeah, what happened. Yeah. Tremblay said it felt crucial for him to paint Kaczynski as a real person. Ugh, Jacob. Not even a Unabomber sympathizer. I wanted him to feel real. I drew from my, I guess, yes, you're playing a human being. You want them to feel real. But like, I don't know. It's giving a little bit too much like pass for the Unabomber. And you know that the Unabomber is like sort of like becoming like a heroic figure to people. Oh God, like Saddam Hussein. Okay, so we'll be watching the Unabomber Toast Movie of the Week. I think so. Yeah. Toast Movie of the Week. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

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53:44Jackie A.:Go to zenni.com slash podcast. That's Z-E-N-N-I dot com slash podcast. Use code podcast15 for 15 % off your first order. The styles sell out, so don't sit still. that's z-e-n-n-i dot com slash podcast the promo code is podcast 15 that's p-o-d-c-a-s-t one five today thank you turd five you're welcome our next story ben affleck won the elusive one million

54:09Clara D.:dollar prize on who wants to be a millionaire what would you have gotten the winning question

54:13Nara Smith:okay let's see i'm so bad at trivia especially when they give options like it almost makes it

54:16Clara D.:harder ben affleck and jeopardy champion jamie ding won the elusive one million dollar prize on who wants to be a millionaire on wednesday night's episode of the hit game show they

54:23Angela R. White:answered the 15th. I did not know the show was still on. But let me tell you, I have such a warm and fuzzy feeling about the show. It's so nostalgic. Of course.

54:28Clara D.:It's so nostalgic. And it's very straightforward. Who wants to be a millionaire? Yes, please. What are the questions? They answered the 15th and final question correctly to take home the grand prize, which will go to Ben's foundation, the Eastern Congo Initiative. Oh, that's nice. So the episode began with them only having two questions left. First was the$500 ,000 question, which was, what achievement occurred just two months after a New York Times article said it wouldn't happen for 1 million to 10 million years. These are your choices. The first airplane flight, splitting the atom, cloning a mammal, and the polio vaccine.

55:09Angela R. White:Okay, the New York Times is wrong. Nothing like putting them on blast. But what would the New York Times historically be wrong about? Read it again, the last four. The first airplane flight. No, I feel like that's not the answer.

55:24Nara Smith:Splitting the atom. Like, I don't know when the atom was split, but, like, was the New York Times up and running then? I feel like no. What is splitting the atom? I don't know. I know it was, like, a huge medical, scientific advancement.

55:36Clara D.:Cloning a mammal. Can we do that still?

55:39Angela R. White:I guess. Okay, what was the fourth one? Polio vaccine.

55:44Nara Smith:No, I don't think they would have said that, like, the vaccine was a million years away. A million years away.

55:48Angela R. White:I guess, like, maybe splitting the atom. but what was the third one cloning a mammal okay i'm gonna go like b or c i really don't know this

55:58Clara D.:is hard so i'll tell you how it went down they initially thought it was the first airplane flight both of them uh he had ben said i only remember this because it was a time in my life where i spent time looking up examples that the press got things wrong yeah just randomly and i sort of vaguely in my subconscious remember the times in the wright brothers and that whole thing was like 1905 oh three or four or something um then they phoned a friend or they decided to use the 50 50 lifeline to eliminate two answers oh my god okay leaving them to choose from splitting the atom and the first airplane oh so a and b a and b and the correct answer which they got correct

56:35Angela R. White:was the first airplane oh my god okay obviously i got that wrong like then the million dollar question okay so i would have been out but continue in an annual thanksgiving tradition

56:45Clara D.:all but which of these have been the names of turkeys pardoned by a u.s president okay i'm never gonna get this who would ever know this peanut butter and jelly tater and tot are there

57:01Angela R. White:two turkeys why are they all and turkeys i guess they pardon two okay tater and tot mac and cheese

57:10Clara D.:and spaghetti and meatball. Okay, read them again. Peanut butter and jelly, tater and tot, mac and cheese,

57:22Angela R. White:spaghetti and meatball. So I was thinking like, obviously something that could be Thanksgiving food, which is tater and tot, right? I would say actually tater and tot

57:32Clara D.:are the only ones that are like, there's not already an and in tater tot. There's mac and cheese, spaghetti and meatball, peanut butter and jelly.

57:40Nara Smith:oh i was the extraneous things on your things on your thanksgiving table could be tater tot

57:44Angela R. White:what was the second third one mac and cheese peanut butter and jelly yeah not peanut butter and jelly but also not what was the meatball but you couldn't make spaghetti meatball from turkey

57:52Clara D.:or so is that rude to name a mat does that like rubbing it in yeah because that's the only meat product oh that's good let's go with that spaghetti meatball final answer even though i hate a turkey meatball i am gonna go with that's really good that's an outlier yeah but so is tater and tot

58:09Angela R. White:Although I don't think that there's a rhyme or a reason. I think that like three of them just were and one of them wasn't. You know what I mean? If I had turkeys, like I might want to name them Tater and Todd.

58:17Clara D.:I agree. So cute. Okay. I like our reasoning for spaghetti and meatball. Let's go spaghetti and meatball. They phoned a friend. LOL. Oh, but Ding's friend didn't answer in time. Oh my God. They took Kimmel's advice and chose spaghetti and meatball winning a million dollars. Oh, we were right. We were right.

58:33Nara Smith:Look at us. We should go on. Oh my God. There are a couple of game shows like I might do good at.

58:39Jackie A.:obviously Family Feud I would do good at I know that I would um who wants to be a millionaire the questions are so hard I almost anytime I've ever watched I've like never even gotten one right

58:47Angela R. White:no but it's like the early questions are supposed to be easier so I would love to know what those questions were because like these two honestly I have no clue I would do good I would do like

58:55Nara Smith:decent at Jeopardy like when I watch from home I get a couple like I'm not gonna win by any means I'm not gonna embarrass myself um Family Feud of course Wheel of Fortune Slay I don't think I would

59:04Clara D.:do good at family feud i'm really not in in step with like what with culture you are not in step with culture you know like yeah that just wouldn't be what the survey says a thousand percent survey

59:14Nara Smith:says yeah every time jackie's on i would be like the first person do you know what i mean like they go like they always have like the dad like at the front or a parent yeah um i just feel like that's the strongest player i would be up there you think you're the strongest i watch a lot so

59:29Clara D.:yeah no I want to like be responsible for my own self not like what other freaks are thinking yeah

59:35Nara Smith:that's true you can only be responsible for what you put out into this world you know so I just

59:38Clara D.:feel like I don't want to work with others I love that it still makes news when someone gets all the questions right like it doesn't happen a lot well now it's like celebrity also yeah who remembers

59:46Angela R. White:the game show the wall so good you do I talk about it all the time it's literally one of the best shows I've ever seen in my whole life are you ready for our fifth and final story I am Miley miley cyrus reveals that she's working on a new album that's a love story and i i believe that the reveal also shows that she got her teeth fixed um did she say that no but like i saw like footage from this i didn't know there was a problem well she i think a lot of people started

1:00:09Nara Smith:having the conversation about veneers about miley cyrus like she had her snaggletooth which i loved but of course she wanted to fix it and she ended up getting these huge veneers that like didn't even fit in her mouth and it was like kind of like people were talking about it a lot it appears

1:00:20Angela R. White:that she got the fixed. Oh, okay. Well, she revealed that she's working on a new album that's a love story while speaking with actress Daryl Hannah for Wonderland. Of course. Of course the actress Daryl Hannah from Love Story. This album is a love story, but love stories are never one-dimensional.

1:00:33Nara Smith:Oh, not for saying love story like in front of Daryl Hannah. That's fucking rude because you know Daryl Hannah wrote a piece in the New York Times about how mad she was at Ryan Murphy for making her look like the biggest loser ever in that show.

1:00:41Clara D.:They're always layered. There's definitely a romantic thread weaving through it all because like all of my records, it's a reflection of where I am in my life. She said, the upcoming album feels especially meaningful because this feeling has stayed with me throughout multiple eras that's something i hadn't really experienced before a peaceful kind of love has become a theme across my last three records yeah she's been with her man's max morando for a really long time for a very long time and she don't talk about it because he's like

1:01:05Angela R. White:not famous they're not like interested by it right but this is clearly like it for her amazing like

1:01:10Clara D.:i love that especially with a rando like that's good yeah huge i'm excited to hear new music for

1:01:16Angela R. White:Miley like it appears she's also like going back to her rock era just based on like the Luke's where where was she last we saw her something flowers yeah like that's like two albums ago flowers something beautiful really came and went yeah that was like more like

1:01:34Nara Smith:visual it was a visual album yeah right exactly so I don't really know I didn't catch the visuals so I don't know what the vibe was. I think I nailed it.

1:01:45Clara D.:Yeah. So I would love a Love Story album even though I feel like that's what Taylor is doing next. True, but like... Taylor's next album should be called Love Story because that's her origin song. It's one of Travis's favorites. It's come up in their relationship many times. It's become the anthem of their wedding. Yeah. Love Story.

1:02:03Nara Smith:Yeah, or we could get a Love Story sequel song. It's like the sister song to Love Story. That's so cute. Yeah.

1:02:10Angela R. White:The older sister song.

1:02:12Nara Smith:He's back at camp. So like they're back in the real world. I don't know if they went on like an official honeymoon or anything. But I saw this morning he was photographed. I saw. At training camp.

1:02:17Angela R. White:So like the honeymoon is over. Back to work. That's good. They've had like a nice chunk of time. But like you know, idleness is the devil's workshop. It's so true. Like you need to miss your man. Yeah. You need a working man. Oh, you need a man with a job. That's actually like just a non-negotiable for women everywhere. Yeah.

1:02:34Clara D.:So that's good news. And maybe she like finally has some time to herself. She can go through her pics, like make a carousel. Right. Perhaps upload to the Instagram.

1:02:43Nara Smith:Perhaps upload to the gram. Although at this point, I've just sort of come to terms with us not getting anything. That way I can only be. Ever? Yeah.

1:02:54Clara D.:I think that would be wrong.

1:02:56Nara Smith:I agree.

1:02:56Jackie A.:But if I think that, then I can only be surprised in a positive way. I can't be let down.

1:03:00Clara D.:I think she owes it to the fans. I think she does too.

1:03:02Nara Smith:The whole world has been rooting for this. we've been through there was a time where like she like demanded so much respect for her private life and we all really did like we let we understood she couldn't walk the red carpet with you like we all just sort of understood these rules but obviously when she married someone who was like not so miserable she realized like she'd need to have all those rules and so it's like yeah let us in now we respected it at the time but like now like it's fine like you had your wedding and

1:03:24Clara D.:you had your privacy and you've had weeks of it just being for you guys but like you have millions of adoring fans who have just been like waiting for this and are so happy for you and like feed them. Us. Feed us. Feed us. Feed us. I'm speaking in the third.

1:03:36Nara Smith:Yeah, of course. Well, those were the stories and yes, I would agree that they were insanely all over the place but I enjoyed every minute.

1:03:41Clara D.:But I feel like we covered a lot of

1:03:42Angela R. White:ground. So if you're like going to complain about yes, like. Oh, you didn't cover sports. We talked about Tony Rambo. Oh, you didn't cover music. We talked about Miley Cyrus. Oh, you didn't cover art. We talked about Nara Aziz. Like. If you look at just like the description of today's episode

1:03:55Clara D.:like you might have been like what's going on at this show. But you don't realize like. But it's what's in between the lines. there's a method

1:04:02Angela R. White:no no no and it's like in between every story we like added another story it's true we probably did like seven or eight today

1:04:08Jackie A.:and that's beautiful well thank you guys so much for saying emoji you choose

1:04:15Jackie A.:okay I'll choose the pen to paper emoji like where you're writing something why I didn't have a pen

1:04:20Angela R. White:I got to the mic I was like press record niche niche reference from the episode

1:04:24Nara Smith:well just make a decision you know thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast on the Line where you show we deliver the fast five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so you're watching on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe because video thumbs up are also available as podcasts anywhere podcasts can be found. So that's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Video, I, or Recastbox, all the places that we listen to the podcast. Find us at ToastlyV5, so I'd be a better, be able to be stunning and wickedly talented we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow for a beautiful day of celebration.

1:04:43Nara Smith:Love ya. Friday. Bye.