Love Island With Purpose: Thursday, June 4th, 2026

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28:11Claudia Oshry:You're welcome. Our first story, some glorious news. Love Island's Molly May and Tommy Fury welcome baby number two. Really cute. So Molly May shared yesterday that they had given birth and welcomed their second baby together, a girl. she captioned it and then there were four and it's a photo of like the baby on the bed with molly tommy and bambi yeah i'm curious what the name is because like bambi was such a cultural shift yeah and like out of left field like no one could have predicted that and it's so crazy because i was just thinking about molly may and tommy because i'm watching love island and i know love island us and uk are so different because i was like these two would never go on love island usa like last night when they had three people in a bed like filming a porno i'm like tommy and molly would fucking never it's insane that they're from this franchise even though it's different because they're so fucking classy everything they do is like so high proud and it's crazy that like molly i mean i watched it i can't remember a certain moment but like had to do these challenges like making out i'm sure they did the challenges still it wasn't as insane graphic and i had heard the early seasons of love island uk were like really raunchy like they're showing sex in the bed oh yeah i've seen those clips but then it smoking then they went on to like cable yeah and that's what love island usa needs they need to be on nbc so that they have to keep it in their pants that's actually a really good call it's like because they're on peacock they just do whatever should get away with and then more more more but it's like it's a lot right about that i never put that together they need the constraints of cable they do and the fcc needs to get in there and like the mother's group and say like bryce get in your own bed that was really sick we'll save it for the tv recap um but i also wanted to say one more thing what was what do you think they'll name the baby.

29:47Let's do a prediction. What was Bambi's mother's name? What was Bambi's mother's name? Or like another Disney character? No, I think they'll, you know what's just coming to me? Cinderella. Is it a boy or a girl? Girl. Cinderella. You know what's coming to me? Just, this is what I think. This is my prediction. Dove. So pretty. Rapunzel. I'm sticking with the Disney theme. Bambi and Dove. Dove is really pretty. I love the name Dove. I love the name Dove too. The thing is, like, Dove is a name though, and given her track record, she likes to choose names that, like, aren't really names. But Bambi's now a name.

30:17Okay, if you want to think about like mystical, mythical. Animals. Woodland creatures. Yeah, like someone from Madagascar or something. Or like Simba. Or like Nala. I just want to say Bambi and Nala is like a little too on the nose. That would be insane. Like who is she married to? Bob Iger? I think Bambi and Dove is really cute. I agree. There was something else that I was thinking. For a name. for a name for her oh yeah yeah i'm like this is so fun um oh i'm trying to think of like frozen oh it's been such a beautiful name oh no i got it i got it weselton i love it but i don't think she did bam because of like disney necessarily i think it's what is bambi before the deer yeah it is a name of a deer but it's like a very unique name it's not like Apple she was so like ahead of the curve that Gwyneth it's so true what did they say that Apple Martin is starring in oh the next Nancy Meyers movie the pressure's on can't wait can't wait I'm happy for Molly they've also come really far

31:36Claudia Oshry:they've come so far like you know what and it's just such a great example of like work through hard things It's true. It's true. Don't give up on your family. Try and make it work. Try and make it work. And like, but it's also like a huge testament to like the men who are like living toxic lives, like to stop doing that. Yeah. It reminds me of Whitney and Connor. Another example of try and make it work. It's true. They're making it work. They're making it work. And like, I've never, ever been happier. I don't want to talk about what he did. I know. It's like, I don't want to think about it too hard.

32:03It's like, what are you doing? It's like, we kind of can't come back from it. But yeah. But what if we just didn't think about it too hard? What if we moved on with forgiveness?

32:09Claudia Oshry:and love in our hearts and like and real earnestness in trying to make it work for our young family yeah i respect them both whitney and connor and now tommy like setting aside like your personal grievances to like prioritize your family and keep your unit together at like a cost to your self-esteem or whatever is such an admirable thing to do and it's the right thing to do but it's the hard thing to do so i commend them both i hope they're so happy i hope so too Mazel Tov to the Furies. Mazel Tov to the Furies. Are you ready for our next story? Another mazel. Andy Cohen and his new boyfriend were all smiles during a Miami getaway.

32:49Claudia Oshry:So Andy Cohen has been spotted walking down the street. Oh, I didn't see these pictures. I saw them walking outside of Via Coroto. Yes. Here, this is them in Miami. But I saw the Via Coroto. Could you hold the iPad further away? Sorry, I'm like, Why don't you zoom out more? There you go. Wait, like seriously? So cute. It's crazy that Andy's been in the public eye. I've read all of his books. It's not that he doesn't date. He always keeps it under wraps. I don't think he's had many long-term relationships, but the ones that he's had in the last 20 years, we have not known about. So they must be married.

33:17Claudia Oshry:At what level are they at? They're spotted together. The Via Corrado thing was his birthday party, right? Oh, was it? And so his man was on his arm. Who is, who, what, when, where, why, how? His name is Kevin Sobieski. He is the ex-boyfriend of Pasek, of Pasek and Paul. The world is so small. You're kidding. Not kidding. Okay. He's a businessman. Okay. Unemployed. I need to know his age because I would have thought like Andy would go a little younger. A little younger. Yeah. But I think at some point like when you want to be serious, Andy also has two kids. Like when you're actually like going to let someone in your life and around your kids, it has to be a serious person.

33:53But that is still young. How old is Andy? He's like well into his 50s. Yeah. When I saw a picture of Andy with a boyfriend, like I've never, we've seen him paparazzi a thousand times with fabulous friends and by himself and the dogs and the kids never with another like significant other I don't know why I think this is the craziest thing no the photos were a bit shocking yes yes and I'm very happy for him like I love this sort of stable era um he must be a great guy I'm sure like SJP loves him oh I'm sure he is works at a private equity and investment firm so he has like a real job he graduated from Harvard oh my god like normal like we should be encouraging like he's setting an example like date people with jobs and college degrees.

34:31It's so important.

34:32Claudia Oshry:He dated Benj Pasek from 2018 to 2022. So he's like familiar with the limelight. Right. He's also like in a very like elite NYC gay scene. Yes. That's probably how they met. Yes. And he's Andy's first public relationship in years. Yeah. I think his last ex is John Hill, who he talks about in his book a lot, who's now like his best friend. I think he hosts Radio Andy. That was in the early 2000s. But more recently, he dated a epidemiologist clifton dasinoko a what epidemiologist i see epidemiologist yeah what's that epidemiologist epidemiologist okay i'm gonna say it has something to do with skin like epidermis right but it's not a dermatologist analysis okay epidemiology is a study and analysis

35:19Jackie Oshry:of the distribution patterns and determinants of health and disease conditions in a defined populations who is more of like a research analyst it is a quarterstone of public health shapes policy decisions and evidence-based practice by identifying risk factors for disease and targets preventative health care so it's not a doctor it's either like a very serious job or a very fake job but it's good to be in a role where no one knows like goals i just want to say like andy is the helm of bravo which is like this insane universe with like seriously some of the craziest fans so i do understand why his like personal life has largely been kept secret because that's not what he signed up for.

35:54That's what the people who work for him have signed up for. So I am afraid of like what the fans are going to do.

35:58Claudia Oshry:No, I think the fans know better than to like mess with Andy. You know, he'll take your show right away from you. He'll fire your favorite housewife. It's true. It's true. So you don't want to start with him. Did you also see Andy like have this big admission on Radio Andy? Because we've sort of been waiting. He said that there was like a crazy story about who figured out who the rat was at the Summer House reunion. Everybody was saying it was Jennifer Lawrence. He said that like he was like hyping it up like when it happened too much. like they never really were able to figure out who helped them figure it out and it wasn't Jennifer Lawrence and he like regretted hyping it up because it became this whole thing and he like didn't know what to do about it I feel like we've been there like and it happens I actually respected his I respect the honesty as well thank you I can move on I also want to say I feel like radio Andy Andy and watch what happens live Andy are two different people you know you're in a different mood in the morning than you are at 1000 % and I find radio Andy like to be such a likable version of Andy whenever I see clips I'm like oh that's Andy like the guy on what happens live I feel like sometimes he's in such a bad mood it's so not fun to watch but radio andy i feel like he's sort of like built for radio yeah radio's fun and radio's easy and i'm sure they don't do video i wonder what pays more i'd be happier like for the job that pays more and like i don't have to be on video right and i'm not staying up till 11 30 yeah and it's like he sits and talks to his friends on radio andy the host is his friend john like yeah watch happens live he has to talk to people that I know he hates.

37:15Yeah. It's a lot. You know, to always be at that, like, level of, like. Fun and, like, I'm the silly gay guy everyone loves. Like, it's annoying. Yeah. Sometimes you just want to relax. To yassify every night. Every conversation. And morning. Yeah, but you're saying the morning's not, like. No, the mornings are just so chill. Relax. I also think he doesn't like the structure of his own show, because he's always rushing through things, and, like, radio is so relaxed. And you know what? And you know what?

37:39Claudia Oshry:I'm going to say something. Cancel the after show. There's no need for the Watch What Happens Live after show. Are you still doing it? They're still doing an after show. It's actual. It's an abuse of labor laws. It's true. And like we watched, watched. It's enough. Yeah. Let Andy go home. Yes, let Andy go. And maybe he would like. Sometimes they don't do it though. It's like an optional thing. Maybe he would give more to the main show. Yeah. If he knew like that was it. It was over. Yeah, I love that. Because it's like if you didn't make it onto the main show, if the conversation like. For a reason.

38:09And maybe like less stupid games. No, I think everyone loves the stupid games. Maybe that's like fan interactions like with the questions because people like are always wasting time. And it's a real trigger for him. Yeah. Andy hates the fan questions. So, yeah. Like switch it up. Yeah. Why do we have to have fan questions? The stupid games are the best part. Sorry. Like don't do more of that. Like that's silly and fun. The fan interactions like people do abuse the time. They don't realize because they don't work on TV. They don't realize it's like go, go, go. They're like, hi, Andy. I loved your book.

38:36Ryan Sirhan. I've been watching you for 15. Like shut up. No, it's like you're finally getting to talk to your favorite. I understand why you want to tell them what you think. I understand why Andy hates it too. Yes, I do. But he needs. So yeah, Watch Up and Zive needs like a little bit of a shake up. We need more Radio Andy energy. He's so relaxed on the radio. He's always sharing things. I feel like later in the day, he's like, maybe I shared too much. Like, yes. Yeah, more oversharing. More oversharing.

38:58Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our next story? Just as one ship sets sail, another comes back to port. Camila Cabello and her billionaire boyfriend have split after 18 months of dating. I hate to see a woman lose a billionaire. You do. It pains me. So Camila Cabello has been dating Henry Jr. Chalhub and he is a 40 year old billionaire. His family owns the luxury fashion distribution giant Chalhub group. What do they own? Chalhub. Let's go find out. Yeah. So like he's not a 40 year old billionaire. He's like a 40 year old son. He's a 40 year old heiress. And I know obviously like an heiress is amazing. Like who wouldn't want to marry an heiress?

39:33But don't you feel like it's a little bit of an ick? Well, of course. It's like you have never had a job in your life.

39:39Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but there are some heirs who like air well and they're, you know, going to take over the business. And there's all different versions of like the heir son. Right. The mango guy who killed his dad for the job. But like there are the ones that are primed to take over. I mean, it's literally Yellowstone. There are Casey's, there are Bess's, there are Jamie's. Exactly. An heiress is always fun. They are not. I was not talking about heiress. An heiress is everything. You're talking about a male heir. A male heir. And like looking through the lens of it as a romantic partner. Yeah, it is like, obviously, like, I would love to marry, you know, someone who's a billionaire.

40:10But it's like, it's your dad's a billionaire. Like, what have you ever done in your life? I don't know. It kind of gives me the ick. I know that's crazy. So the group. Oh, that's like. Yesteryear. Oh, so like his dad is like a billionaire. He's like, oh, like Ballerina Farm.

40:24Claudia Oshry:But yeah, no, it's. Oh, you guys, Redhead's episode comes out today. I just have to record the ads. You all need to listen to it. It's so fucking fire because it's like we talk about how it's just like about like what components are like Ballerina Farm. But yes, her husband's father is like super wealthy. So is Ballerina Farms. In real life, her husband's father started JetBlue. In the book, he's like a politician. He's running for president. And he is like a bad heir. Like he is like an unmotivated, lazy heir and like has zero purpose. I don't know Hogfathering who is... I kept calling him Daniel.

41:03Yeah, right. I don't know. His name in the book is Caleb. I don't know Daniel, the real life Caleb, but I actually don't think he's a bad heir. Like he has unique interests for sure. Like most heirs aren't into like raising cattle and creating dairy products. But he's a hustler. Like I think a lot of their like commercial success was him. Like he's, she's like very much a face and like she's, it's like her philosophy, but he's sort of like merchandise.

41:24Claudia Oshry:Well, that's like in the book, they go on there for a scene and he was like, what do you want for your life? And she was like, she grew up in Idaho. So she's like, I'd like a farm in between a couple mountains, you know, with the cow and some kids and and then she was like what do you want and he was like i don't know but but that sounds nice okay but respect like not knowing what you want so it's like her vision that like he yeah that he brought to life in the book it's very nefarious miranda lambert said it perfectly daddy gave life to mama's dream like it's beautiful it's a timeless american tale that's beautiful that reminds me also of the cody johnson song the painter i kind of want to never speak to you again for introducing me to that song the painter so upset about how the woman like brings color to the world obviously i don't see it like if i'm a romantic it's literally about ruby like is ruby the painter are you the painter my life was black and white but he's the painter oh he's the painter i don't remember this is how we sing it live before who came into the picture like seriously i can't listen to that song it always makes me cry um and it was on like my birthday about it from like ben can't remember life before you came into the picture sure like i literally don't care what Ben thinks about me.

42:31Do you know what I mean? Like, it's me and Ruby. Did you listen to the song last night that I told you to listen to? I did. Jackie was like, there's this new Dan and Jay song. Like, it's so emo. Like, you should listen to it. It's going to make you cry. I heard it for the first time on Ruby's birthday. I didn't like it. Like, and I didn't think it was, like, powerful. And I didn't want to tell you that because, like, I didn't want to shit on your... Well, that's fine. I just, like, was listening

42:49Claudia Oshry:on Ruby's birthday. He had turned one and it was about how, like, you know, you're young and then you're going to be like the old man. It's just like about how time flies when you're like beautiful and skinny. Well, that song for me is Thomas Rhett and Remember You Young. I can't fucking take that song. Also, the reason why I asked you about that song was because I'd never really listened to Fathers and Sons, Luke Combs' album. Because I know Front Door Famous and I know the hits, but I never really gave it a deep, dark listen to. And I was like, because there'll be a time where I'm ready for that.

43:16And my favorite song, also on my birth playlist that I can't listen to, is Take You With Me by Luke Combs, which is very much Fathers and Sons Coded. so I listened to fathers and sons and like literally I had to stop um and that's why I asked you about the Dan and James you were just like in the moon to cry yes yes I put Ruby down early and I was like what should I do now maybe I should cry yeah and Bedwins and I'm like this feels like the perfect time to self-harm no and a perfect time just have a good cry sometimes you have to cry absolutely I cry pretty much every night when I put Ruby down like um there's like an hour between like putting him down and like when my shows start yeah so I usually use that hour like look at pictures from the day he was born you need to move to a different time zone where the show started seven absolutely like it's eight o 'clock here bad for my mental health yeah so that like you could sort of skip over that hour we'll see you on central time what was the

43:59Claudia Oshry:story oh can we look about you oh yeah child hoob group they are the oh what do they own uh the largest luxury operator in the middle east they represent over 300 brands like doing distribution in retail so like they don't own the brands they have a couple in-house brands that you've never heard of but they more so like men distribute in retail it's just crazy like that makes you a billionaire because like they can't even explain what they do like I don't think they want us to um to look into it I was actually just watching this insanely interesting video about Walmart um you know they're headquartered in Arkansas like this small town I think it's called Fayetteville don't quote me on that and they have created like um if you've ever been to the town there it looks like um what's the place in San Francisco where like all the tech companies are Silicon Valley It looks like Silicon Valley.

44:49You know, everyone has like an intern. Like it's like a campus, like every the parks and Walmart built this whole town. And it was why Walmart decided to spend like billions of dollars creating like basically like a. A haven. And it was like in order to attract people to come work. People don't want to live in Arkansas. If you're like operating at a high level, like a C-suite executive, like why would they move to Arkansas when they can get a great job in like New York or whatever? So it's like the most amazing place to live. I kind of like want to work for Walmart now. You should. what would you do there?

45:18I could be like the face of the company. In what sense? A model. Folksperson. I don't know if the models live there. Well, I would obviously be like the in-house model. What are you not getting?

45:33Do you need to explain it more? I'm beautiful and thin and they need a model. Forever. You would model all goods. Yeah. Well, they would just generally like take my, you know when you like do a video game and you have to like wear all those dots on the body suit? I would want them to get my whole face, my whole image. So I don't have to go to work everyday modeling. They could just use my name and likeness while I enjoy all the work. You sit there in Fayetteville and live off the land. Correct. Understood. Okay, of course. Of course. They have insane parks. All public spaces are funded by Walmart.

45:59You love parks. I know. It was the parks that got me. Yeah. Bentonville, thank you. Okay. Fayetteville is something else, though. Yeah, it's in Arkansas. Okay. Okay. Well, see you in Bentonville. You will or you won't. Are we ready for our next story? It's our next story that's brought to you by Weight Watchers. Because one thing about us, we are watching our weight. We're not liking what we're seeing. We're not liking what we're watching. But we're watching it. But we watch closely. And Weight Watchers is perfect for us. It fits into your real life. So you can enjoy the summer cookouts, patio happy hours, and vacations while still hitting your weight loss goals.

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51:53Claudia Oshry:Yeah, so Amanda's talking about being on the show about Rihanna's message, about how she's feeling about it next season. She still has not made a decision. Okay. She also was talking about Dorit's house, and she said, sometimes I consider buying it. She said, if it wasn't so modern, if it wasn't so pigeonholed into this one specific style, and I thought we'd have an easier time renovating it into something that would make us money, I think I would absolutely consider buying it. I like the headline, Money Queen Buys House, but I don't think it'd be a fun renovation for us. That's funny considering the way that she renovated Kyle's house.

52:23Claudia Oshry:It's so chuggy. No, it's the look of Dorit's. No, no. Dorit's is so builder grade farmhouse. Like it's actually shocking that Dorit's lives in a house that's like so lacking real style and like personality because her style is like so colorful. I agree. It's like not Congress with Dorit's personal style, but that is a style. And at the time that Dorit bought her house, the style of like modern farmhouse and like Dorit's is like a huge version of it and what Amanda did to Kyle's house is not really farmhouse it's very like choogy millennial no like she put the black windows on and made it like white and black farmhouse also she shouldn't move I think

52:57Jackie Oshry:that there's like really good energy in that Kyle Richards house I think Kyle would agree I think it's like a house where like it's like a great place to raise your family it just gives really positive vibes I don't think she should buy Dorit's house and also I think Dorit's house gives terrible vibes like they got divorced it was robbed like no yeah she had some um things to

53:13Claudia Oshry:say about Dorit's finances which are hard to hear for me but I actually think she's like saying a lot of things that make sense she said um I was trying to understand how much understanding Dorit had of her finances and she didn't know I think it's just really obvious if you're not sure the mortgage mortgage is getting paid call the mortgage company and if the mortgage isn't getting paid even if it's supposedly your ex's responsibility if you want to save the home pay the mortgage and spend less on designer clothes. I love to shop, but I would never not pay my mortgage. She suspected that Dorit believed PK would look bad once people realized he was not paying a mortgage.

53:45Claudia Oshry:And Amanda said that everyone looks bad. And she told Dorit, you have to pay your bills. As far as season 16 and her coming back to this show, she said, it's not official and I'm not sure. Even my husband was the strongest one saying, you shouldn't do that again, baby. We're really unhappy. But he's had a change of heart. It's more psychological space than anyone can understand. It's kind of a painful experience. Yeah. But she said, you can tell when you're filming with them, with the girls. She said, I think me not needing the show irritated some of my castmates. Those who need it, like need the money.

54:13Claudia Oshry:Make their responses bigger than they actually are. Those who need it are always trying to make sure they're getting the camera time. And they're very different on camera than off camera. So when you get there and you feel like people are doing whatever they have to do for their strategy and their storyline and their takedown, you're like, how do I ever get to know you? I do feel like she's ripe for an amazing second season. I do still believe that she's like not a good fit and poorly cast but now like knowing what I know about her I think that she's misunderstood and she could now knowing what she knows like have a great season if she doesn't have to and I don't understand her finances I can't lie like I have no idea how she's affording all of this stuff then don't do it but I think probably it's helped a lot with like her digital company and her digital courses because like while some people think she's crazy some people maybe resonate with the whole manifesting money and if she has good courses which I feel like she does because people she said she has like such a good like return rate retention rate and people like it so if people like discovered her through the show and got the course and the course is good then that's good for her business yeah and while she started poorly I do think by the end like I ended up having a lot of respect for how she handled a lot of the situations I think like she kind of ate up some of the women like bows a little bit um she has potential I think she should come back just because she shouldn't be a one season wonder with like the worst season ever.

55:31Claudia Oshry:It's such a bad way to go out. Like very Peggy Sulhanian. It's so Peggy Sulhanian. I think even though it's very Harper and she said this, like she said that like filming is just like so draining on her. She had a break where she didn't film for one week over this past season just because of how things shook out. And she remembered the producer was like, how are you doing after not filming for a week? And she was like, my brain turned back on. The creativity I was able to give to my business this week is something I haven't given in months. The presents I was given to my children, I became myself again.

55:55Claudia Oshry:So like that's really hard to go back. And yeah, filming is definitely like a toxic hard situation but especially when you're not really like in the inner circle but no one's protecting you yeah but no one ever thought that it's like a fun actually for some people like it seems oh that would be fun you know for some people it's definitely like fun and easy and light for a time i think it looks fun yeah but it was definitely not fun for her i think she would have a better second season i do think that she should come back to like her yeah yeah i agree and i do think there's more to her i'm open i'm open the first episodes where people really hated her I didn't like her but I didn't hate her as much as everyone and I really maintain the fact that like that whole original sin of like Kyle said this and then you made it your own opinion and you've repeated it like it's just not that big of a deal and that's what she means like when it's more so Kyle like Dorit and I think a little bit lost in the sauce because Dorit was like annoyed at this new girl talking about her but more so at Kyle yeah so she was sort of collateral if it wasn't Kyle it would have all about Dorit and Kyle Amanda for the first few episodes and then because I think Dorit and Kyle were trying to maintain some sort of like detente and it just wasn't that big of a deal to me so I didn't understand all of the ire.

57:08I also feel like she's referencing in this interview Erica a little bit like people who need the money having like really outsized reactions it did feel like a lot of Erica this season was like so drama over things like that weren't that big of a deal. Yeah I don't know because obviously Dorit she's usually like cool as a cucumber right no she was like kind of weird

57:27Claudia Oshry:this season but some of the things like is personal stuff to her like her friendship with Kyle and Dorit like is real I think she doesn't care so much when it's like up here at the surface Sutton I don't think she cares so much yeah yeah yeah so I don't know yeah I guess like Dorit has big reactions but Dorit has always had big reactions yeah right who else needs the show for the most part and why I like the franchise is like no it's not like a group of like desperate financially forsaken women it does sound like erica duri bows no bows is fine and bows didn't have any like crazy outsized reactions that's one of my favorite things about her she's like so mellow and like very um measured yeah i don't know she could be talking about bows she also like does just be talking she doesn't really like bows yeah right so she i feel like she'd be shading her yeah i think she should mend her friendship with duri yeah yeah um i think was a good interview for her even all the quotes that i'm reading like she comes off like very cogent and likable and um rj i'm i'm open to her our fifth and final story love island recap a little news is that sean's mother has responded to the mayor the mayor so as you know the mayor of the police department that sean worked for like spoke out about how like disgraceful this guy who like used all the resources from the police force to join the academy become a police officer only to quit within one year to join a show.

58:50Like blowing up his spot. And while maybe that's like an argument worth having, like publicly blowing up his spot to like get attention for your police force is like really lame.

58:58Claudia Oshry:So Sean's mom responded saying, this is Sean's mom. And this makes me very sad because the mayor doesn't see what a huge missed opportunity this was. I care about facts. So let's start with Sean. Put in for leave. Secondly, they didn't pay for a full academy for Sean. Sean came to Pennsylvania after being a contra sheriff deputy since April 2021. And they paid to put him through a full academy. So, you know, PA did not. Because he had a son. I'm not saying they didn't do any training, but they also weren't fully honest about all the details. I'm proud of my son. It is a brave decision to put yourself out there to find love under the microscope of the world.

59:27Claudia Oshry:And then also she commented something else saying he put in for leave to go on the show. And it didn't come through until he had already left. And it was denied. Slay mama. Like, yeah, protect your son. And thank you for providing those facts. I did forget. Like, he had to move. So, yeah, it wasn't this particular police force that was responsible for the funding of his career. And when he said he was a police officer for six years, the first five were before he moved to Pennsylvania. Yeah, they were in contra. They were in contra. But every time Sean does like anything wrong, which he's really not.

59:53He seems like a really nice guy.

59:55Claudia Oshry:You know, it's like Sean B. Mayer. Sean B. Mayer. I want to say I am hating. Have they ever done this Paradise Villa thing before? The threesome. Like paradise Cove. We're watching a pornography. When I saw that big jumbo ass bed, I was like, hell no. So I was doing admin when I saw what happened with the girls and Gabriel. No, not Bryce. Because what happened to Bryce? I was I was all that like that bed was like namesake on steroids I'm sorry that bed was we had Rice Zach and Kata three people sleeping it's already crazy that they like make you sleep with your partner but it's like a good sociological like psychological experiment the making out being in a room sleeping in the same bed when he went over there I was actually I was glad that he was declined of course because the alternative is an actual made out with him only fans like this is insane okay and then what happened with the girls in Gabriel He was like giving them both the time of day.

1:00:47In the bed? Oh, oh, oh. No, I think they all just slept. Okay, but like. He was definitely more into Bea. In the bed. Like just before conversations. They had a date afterwards. Like in the bed. In the bed. They only showed up for one second. They were all just sleeping. Like nothing crazy. As they all showed up. No one touching. No.

1:01:02Claudia Oshry:Okay, that's nice. Yeah, that's really uncomfortable. And I would feel bad for these people that like, oh my gosh, you're going on a show and now they're forcing you to like make out left, right, and center. But that's literally what they signed up for. and I'm pretty sure that they were told like, you can't not do this. So do you want to come on the show or not? Of course. And also like Bryce and Trinity, both not getting chosen by the bombshells and having to recouple as like two losers. Like I was seriously cracking up. But maybe they could be bonded in loserdom. I kind of ship. Well, that's how I felt.

1:01:27Why didn't they just also couple up Kenzie and Sean? Because now they're both up to me. That's always a thing. No, and they're actually, the more I saw them, like the two goofy big smiles, I'm like, oh, you're perfect for each other. Yeah. Trinity and Bryce are not a good match.

1:01:39Claudia Oshry:But that's like not how couples usually happen. We always have like a couple singles. shells we have to have people who are vulnerable uh if there's a recoupling they could like if the girls are picking why would bryce and trinity get rematched oh because they're still in their couple like right oh they tried to leave successfully yeah i like that they got rematched and um i think that like maybe they'll appreciate each other now then somebody on twitter pointed

1:02:03Jackie Oshry:out to me that bea has clear braces and i wish that they didn't because they're like first of all i need the name of her dentist they are so fucking clear like i can't see them i'm like no what are you guys talking about just braces she does i wish nobody told me i can't watch a show it's so distracting i'm always trying to catch the brace like i don't know why i'm like oh i see it oh i see i think maybe it's only the bottom i seriously don't know i can't see it um it's so fucking going on live island with braces is crazy work it's insane yeah and that's what we were saying she has so much confidence like and i think that's what like really fine like people find attractive about her is she's a very person like the leads with her personality obviously she's like an amazing body and she's beautiful but like her personality shines through first which is kind of crazy.

1:02:41So yeah, only like a person with insane self-confidence would get braces before going on TV. Or not get the braces on TV. Or just get them taken off. Yeah. And then it's only six weeks. You can put them right back on. Or she'd look nice. They're so normal looking. Yeah. I don't know. I like Sean and Kenzie, I just want to say. Yeah. Like Kenzie's so - They're not letting her go. Kenzie's insane. Like why is she crying so hard? The producers are not letting her go. No, of course, because she's clearly like the most emotional because to literally cry over a guy who you like kissed once on Love Island, And like all day she was crying, like in the hideaway, in the glam room.

1:03:13Like, why are you still crying? Yeah, but it really hurts that like Kata is the most beautiful woman on the planet. Yeah, no, it sucks to lose to Kata. She's insane looking. I'm really glad she's here. Me too. Definitely brought up the group average. She's really, really beautiful. And it's a lot of pressure on her to have a good personality because on this show, like people come in. I was telling you about Adriana. Like someone from last season, she was a bombshell and like the world stopped. Everyone like left there. They left their wives. They said she used to date Michael B. Jordan. Yeah. Like everyone was shook.

1:03:41Like everyone would have left their girlfriend. Everyone would have left their girlfriend to be with her. And then. She made no impact.

1:03:49Claudia Oshry:She made no impact. She got sent home. Like no one wanted to couple up with her. And it's like, wow, your personality must just be such a dud. Yeah. So yes. Lots of pressure on you. Your looks will get you to a place. But it's not everything. Now the pre-existing couples like Sincere and Melanie, is that her name? Are actually really cute. They're strong. I want to like Anaya and Casey, but I feel like Casey's just too excited to be dating the daughter of a basketball player. Like when he found out he could not like get that smile off his face. He looked like he had just like sort of like found a treasure.

1:04:21Like he was like that meme. You know, the yellow jacket guy where he's like by the tree. I actually think he's like a nice guy and I don't get like bad vibes. I don't think that's a bad thing. I like you. Oh my gosh. And I'm so excited that like you're from an NBA family. family like and she's wealthy girl like great excitement excites me i don't think it's a red flag also we need a meme of the yellow jacket guy being like casey when he found out what an i his dad does for a living he was so excited yeah and like good he should be it's exciting and if she was worried about like people using her for that fact she wouldn't have shared it now i have a question about love island and i would think that's lame like you are who you are and i know i brought this up last season but like i don't really understand why they have a host and And it's like always a big deal.

1:05:04Ariana gets her like slow-mo walkthroughs. They have this like high-profile host. And they use her sometimes for challenges, sometimes not. But like the rose ceremonies, what are they called? Fire pit ceremonies. Recoupling. Like big moments. It's all done on the texts. What's the point in having a host? Maybe they don't want to like pay her hourly rate. It's insane. It's really weird. She doesn't need to show up literally at all. Except that she's like having cocktails with them. Like what the fuck?

1:05:28Claudia Oshry:No. And she does some recouplings, but not at all. Yeah. I feel like the host does no recouplings. It's always the phones. She does no recouplings? And the phones, yes, is drama. And some challenges are... With a guest host. With a host. Some challenges are... Remote. Yeah. Who hosts the challenges? I guess they have guest people coming. But sometimes none. Yeah, just usually Ian explains to us what's going to go down. I love him. I love him. When he said, and here comes Bryce, quoting like a like an informal like doula an informal midwife what's that baby he's actually very funny i would think that like that shtick is stupid it's not no it's very well done very surprising yeah i wonder who writes those jokes like he does he's a comedian yeah there's something like a team of writers for sure but he is a comedian yeah it's hysterical hysterical hysterical put love island on cable yeah that bed scene was just too much when i saw that like xxl bed I gotta pit my stomach I'm like no fucking way yeah and then like what's the new guy's name Gabriel Gabriel is like choking Bea and Trinity's just like watching on the bed like it was literally porn it's insane that we're watching porn it's very weird it's wrong I know but that's the show so like do you want to watch the show or not like not that part yeah I sort of like want you to disassociate yeah I want to take a stand though like they actually don't care about courting viewers like us yeah no because we're not like gen z morons who like make twitter fan pages like they want like that really like gen z toxic sort of fan base yeah and more porn not the level-headed millennials no they really don't care like every criticism i've ever had they turned it up yeah right they just do more of it they probably watch the show what does jackie i'm not like let's do more of it yeah which i don't think that's a good strategy but i guess all my favorite shows get canceled so maybe it is keep doing what you're doing but i do think that like the show overall all like benefits from very good marketing and just being part of the zeitgeist.

1:07:29Claudia Oshry:They got there with that season of like Leah. Yes, that was huge for, because we were watching Love Island USA before that season. No one was watching it. No one was watching it. Shannon and Josh. So they had like one really strong season and they're like living off of the goodwill of that. And they have very good marketing and hype, but the show is not good. So it's only a matter of time before the jig is up. Yeah, this season, last season was very good. I will say that. I know you didn't like it, but I think in terms of drama and moments, like it was there. There were moments, but like all in all, how many hours a week are we watching?

1:07:59Claudia Oshry:It's not good television and it's possible to have good seasons. Like there are real good seasons of shows of Love Island. Yeah. We need, I know it's early, so it's just, I'm not feeling very hopeful about the group, about everything. I need like more villagers. I need a mean girl like to come in. Everyone's like best friends. No, like where's the bully? Yeah, but the girls always come in like, I'm not here to make friends. I'm going to take your man and then like next. crying they're like yeah i'm so sorry i talked yeah yeah right totally like i need someone i need a big bitch to come in big one i agree that's our show honestly i think it was an amazing one like i mean they all are obviously like life-changing um completely unique not ever been done before but this one i feel like we had a lot of good laughs always i mean for me it's always you know it's just classic jackson claude thank you guys so much for listening to the toast the morning show where we deliver the fast five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube.

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