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Maybe Turd Self Lid: Monday, June 30th, 2025

30 Jun 2025 · 1 h 23 min
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Podcast Notes: The Toast - Episode: "Maybe Turd Self Lid: Monday, June 30th, 2025"

Episode Overview The episode discusses various celebrity news and events, including Lauren Sánchez's wedding to Jeff Bezos, incidents during Beyoncé's concert, and a public reconciliation between Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo. The hosts, Jackie and Claudia Oshry, also provide commentary on the current season of Love Island USA.

Key Highlights

Celebrity News (Timestamp

0:00 - 1:03:28)

  1. Lauren Sánchez Weds Jeff Bezos (Timestamp: 23:41)
  2. Lauren wore a long-sleeved corset wedding gown by Dolce & Gabbana.
  3. The wedding was held in Venice, Italy, and featured on Vogue's digital cover.
  4. Discussion on public perception of the wedding and celebrity appearances.
  1. Beyoncé's Concert Mishap (Timestamp: 44:04)
  2. Beyoncé experienced a technical failure during her performance at the Cowboy Carter tour, leaving her dangling mid-air in a car.
  3. Concerns raised about safety and production standards in live performances.
  1. Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo (Timestamp: 48:35)
  2. Sabrina attended Olivia's concert, signaling the end of their rumored feud, with commentary on the significance of their public appearances together.
  1. Rita Ora's Proposal to Taika Waititi (Timestamp: 58:26)
  2. Rita proposed to Taika in a non-traditional move, which sparked discussion on gender roles in proposals.
  1. Kylie Jenner's Group Chat (Timestamp: 1:03:28)
  2. Kylie shared a screenshot of her Love Island group chat with Hailey Bieber, highlighting shared interests and social dynamics among celebrities.

Love Island USA Recap (Timestamp

1:03:28 - End)

  1. Recoupling Drama
  2. Analysis of the latest recoupling and its implications for the couples involved, especially focusing on Huda and Ace's interactions that created tension with Shelly.
  3. Discussion on the dynamics and chemistry between contestants.
  1. Character Dynamics
  2. Observations about the evolving relationships among contestants, particularly the loyalty and friendships formed, and how they influence the game.
  3. Mention of characters like Alandria and her perceived vulnerability within the villa.
  1. Overall Themes
  2. Reflection on the nature of loyalty and betrayal in group settings, with a focus on the implications of actions taken during challenges.
  3. Commentary on the need for more inter-girl conflict to keep the show engaging.

Final Thoughts

  • The hosts expressed a mixture of excitement and critique about the season's unfolding events, emphasizing the need for fresh dynamics.
  • Plans for future episodes and content on Patreon were highlighted, with a promise of more weekly content during the summer.

Key Takeaways

  • The episode serves as a blend of pop culture commentary and reality TV analysis, with humor and personal anecdotes from the hosts.
  • The discussions reflect broader themes of celebrity culture, interpersonal relationships, and societal expectations surrounding love and commitment.

Conclusion The episode of "The Toast" effectively combines light-hearted celebrity gossip with deeper insights into the social dynamics presented in reality television, particularly in the context of Love Island. The hosts continue to engage with their audience through humor and relatable commentary, making the episode both entertaining and reflective of current cultural narratives.

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0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast yeah that's right it's your bitch ass turd your bitch ass turd b-a-t hey jocks how you at art hey bitch ass turd b-a-t bat i like that we're both wearing duty green today because clearly we both packed all of our summer wears this is our last episode duty green with the side of duty brown oh by the way same oh and i did put a little like flare in my shoes just to switch things up and keep things unexpected no actually all of my pargy maternity wares are at the tailor right now like i do i totally forgot you were pregnant i know i mean i look so much going on in my life imagine how i feel everybody forgets including last night and then like at the end of the day i'm like having to rub my belly like girl you've just got to focus on this for a second i wanted to tell you i had a dream that you were having twins and it was like so vivid this happened last night so do with that information what you will maybe you want to go to the doctor.

1:19Wait, what was your dream? You cut out. Sorry. Oh, that you were having twins. Oh, that's so funny. No, I would love to be having twins. Trust and believe. I understand. So if that is the truth for me, like I will be thrilled about it. I don't want to get my hopes up though, but thank you for thinking so highly of me. Yeah. I've heard of people at like their 25 week appointment finding out there was actually a second baby behind the first one this whole time. well tbd i guess anything could happen anything could happen yes so if you're watching on youtube jackie and i are both wearing duty green because we packed all of our pargy wears and my other pargy wears are at the tailor so they could be extra pargelicious and like maybe look nice even though i'm not gonna be looking like my nicest this summer right we're headed off on our big summer trip today's our last episode before summer break so obviously i had to pull out my winter wears this is actually a maternity set i could send you an amazon link if you'd like um so we're looking Judy Green on the outside, but face and hair, like face card never declines.

2:16No. And on the inside, like we're feeling bright yellow. Yes. So this is my first show. Like, you know, Jackson friends is over. Turney's back for one day. Now let's take a look at Jackson friends at a glance. I want to ask you who was your favorite. Oh, wow. That is really so hard. No one like immediately comes to mind. Of course, like my most recent shows are top of mind, but there were so many honestly like they were all my favorite it would be easier to choose like least favorite which I wouldn't do but that would still be hard give us your least favorite Sachi no I'm kidding no that's the only safe answer we can never say even if you hated someone so bad they did you such a favor like there was not one person that I hated or disliked or even had like a bad rapport with like it was really like I don't know how many shows I did like 30 out of 30 and so many new friends I connected with so many people we had like so many different conversations it was really Jackson Wonderland and I really felt like I got to harness my inner podcast or like of course we podcast but we really just swirl around here but I was like really podcasting all month getting in the weeds and it was a really a grand old time if you want to ask me who my favorite was it was obviously the Costco guys sorry the Costco guy we have to talk about the Costco guy AJ um big justice like just I guess didn't want to come I kept making excuses for him like big justice isn't school big justice isn't camp he's like no he's not big justice is 12 big justice but I feel like and you know how I feel about like kids on the internet I got the vibe and I listened to the whole interview and I have such positive things to say I got the vibe that like they really want him to maintain like somewhat of a normal life so like this opportunity came up but it's summer break so like fuck it eight I keep I keep getting them confused which one's justice and which one's AJ justice is the kid like justice isn't coming on the toast it's summer break he's playing baseball and he has his Pokemon cards like and as as he should as a normal 12 year old you know 1000 both on the show and off the show I got the warmest impression from their family it was Mama Justice and AJ who came to the studio I can't believe you met Mama Justice like I don't even know I met her a year ago at Costco was Mama Justice with them when you met them yes and she remembered meeting us which I was like so impressed by because we didn't meet as like two influencers in the wild.

4:28Constituents. They were the celebrities and we were the sorry people. So I was genuinely shocked. Like, I don't know why she remembered meeting us because she had no reason to, but I was like so flattered that she did. Maybe you left an impression, like a swirly impression. Perhaps. They were just like, they really put family first. They have their heads on their shoulders. Like I got such a good vibe from them. I really enjoyed meeting them. Me too. Like the takeaway for me from the episode, I got like, I got like a little choked up at the end because obviously like what they do is like silly and fun or whatever.

4:58But when he was just talking about how he like went from being, you know, selling mortgages and he just didn't feel like himself. You know, he was, he takes his role as a provider really seriously. So he was happy to provide and give a nice life for his family. But he wasn't being creative. He wasn't being himself. He wasn't like, he wasn't happy at his job. And just to see somebody like fulfill their dreams, like I'm obsessed. Like that's my fucking king right there. No, I agree. And once we get that boom truck out on the road, I better fucking see it. It's over for these bitches. It's over. So that was a real cherry on top.

5:26last week was actually really buzzy like we had drag on juliette natalie my new best friend natalie like i have so many liz p who was already my best friend yeah so i just got to see my best friend but i have so many new best friends like so many inside jokes like i'm commenting on cast amico like be embargo and i know that you don't know this but you did like a lot of love island content and we of course clipped it because it's so buzzy and you don't know but like you actually went viral on TikTok a couple of times because for the first time ever, I feel like whenever we're recapping a show, like we always have the unpopular opinion, like everybody on the internet disagrees with us, but just so annoying.

6:02Like, how is that possible? We're so smart. But this time around, like you and your hard truths, like kind of your big sister energy was welcome on TikTok. Like people were really appreciative and agreeing with you. Yeah, it's true. They need a big sister out there on that island and it's supposed to be Alandria, but she can't get her house in order. I will say after last night's episode and reading the tweets, I do think this is the first time I have strongly disagreed with what the fans are saying. In regards to. Shelly and Huda, they are saying that Shelly has no right to be mad about the challenge.

6:36That's not what I saw. Everyone's pretty much in agreement that whatever was done was cut out. That's how inappropriate it was. Because you see Huda just getting her ass off of Ace's face. We didn't see her get on. it's like pretty much agreed upon that like we missed something that they cut for whatever reason people think producers interfered and like paused it interesting well because even pepe oh because even pepe was like that was you know not that was too much for a challenge even pepe my silent king oh yeah claudia's in love with pepe that's what you guys missed and by the way anyone who's not and anyone who's sleeping on pepe like that says more about you than it does me like let me tell you that's my unproblematic king and i ship him and andrina like of course i like Grayson gotta go she's just sort of like the flavor of the moment like Andrina and like they're both Latin you know what that means to me like if that's a winning couple that that's a winning couple and I'm so sick of Pepe getting cut out of this show like seriously people forget he's there and I understand he's they actually go out of his way to show him like not even a whole episode oh the episode's running long cut Pepe yeah he's the first to go let's not find out why he coupled up with Grayson.

7:45And he's so hot. I'm sorry. Like he's so good looking. He's such a genuine smile. And he actually talks like a human being, like an adult. I love him. Yeah. Well, I want to be on your algorithm because I saw people like saying Huda did nothing wrong. Like this is a challenge. It's challenge behavior. Shelly like pulled Chris a million times. That's Huda's partner. It's so different. I'm so team Shelly. And even if there wasn't something egregious that was cut out, just like the timing, she clearly like went for her big one with her best friend's man. That's her boyfriend chris nobody did that by the way nobody did that with nick like none of sierra's friends did that i get what sierra's saying and nobody did that with taylor or because olandria loves him so she was wrong for choosing ace for that moment and then i think she did the most and we'll do an official recap we will do an official recap but i just want to say one thing because i have like sort of been an olandria an apologist and fan since day one and I do believe I officially need to step back from that role because I really can't endorse someone.

8:46Like, I always thought it was weird that she liked Taylor. Like, to me, there's what's to like, you know? And now he's actually betrayed her and she's still, like, trying to get him back and, like, for that, I'm gonna have to take a step back. Like, it's important to know your worth. It is. It's important to go home and call Jalen. It's important to go home and call Jalen. Because Jalen's doing big stuff now. Jalen was the first Islander to reach a million TikTok followers, even though he was literally there for four seconds. We think Pepe gets nowhere time. Have you met Jalen? Who has the most TikTok followers after Jalen?

9:20I saw this statistic, like a chart. Because I don't like looking at their social medias. It makes me feel weird. No, and the people they left behind. So pretty much everyone assigned. And honestly, if it was me, I was going on Love Island, I would give you my login. Of course. And there are people like sisters, friends running the social media because I'm like, oh, how was Sierra posting a whatever? And people are like kind of loving Amaya because she's the only person who didn't leave someone in charge of her social media. So it's like she's clearly not thirsty. She's actually here for love in a genuine way.

9:50Wait, I seriously love that because when I go on to these people's social media, if I do, I want to see what they were doing before the show. I don't want to see their sister friend saying vote for so-and-so. No, and they put like a twist in like an attitude in the caption. It's like, shut up. We don't know you. I'm watching the show. I don't need you to recap for me. I want to see what they were doing before the show. That is a point for Amaya. Yeah. Because I really, like stop it. Statistically, I think it's Ace and Huda that have the most followers. But. They came on. They came on with the most followers.

10:24So I think in terms of growth, obviously Jalen has grown top whatever. her so has Ciara she was an influencer before but like very micro yeah and you could tell she's an influencer like I find myself being influenced by her I'm like she's so good at her makeup she's so good at her hair she's so good at getting dressed like she really is like influential what I like about her and some of the other girls but I notice it most with her is like the way she dresses is very original I feel like most people just like get an outfit from Revolve like shout out Revolve love the refreshing over whatever they just like wear the dress that it but like She really has style.

10:56She has her own personal style. I like that. Yeah. Okay. Let's pause because we are going to do a big Leusa recap at the end of today's episode. We have the Fast Five. And we're also going to do a little bit of a challenge in the spirit of Love Island. Jackie and I are going to be making out with each other. No kidding. So we were getting on the show today and it's kind of awkward. I'm like, well, are you doing the ads? Am I doing the ads? Oh, that's the challenge. Yes. Yeah. We just didn't know how to split it. And so we just said, okay, you know what? Let's split it. Jackie. Right down the middle?

11:26right down the middle. Yeah, I'll do the first ad break. Coaches will do the second one. Keep it fresh. You have to listen to the ads to find out who did better. And you have to see if we can keep it to a tight four minutes and 30 seconds. We'll see. It's a cabotish. Let's see, though, if the passion breaks the clock. Now, I'm so excited to be back because I have a lot of thoughts on the Bezos wedding. And of course, they're different than everybody else's. and I'm excited that that's a topic of discussion today. Yeah, a big one. The wedding, the weekend, the reception, the Vogue, everything. Physically, I am, of course, in New York, but mentally I was in Vinice all weekend long.

12:06Were you in Vinice? I didn't find myself stopping over in Vinice despite how much Just Jared wanted me to. No, I loved it. Venice does a good job of always getting paparazzi pictures of celebrities as they get on their water taxis and this weekend was no different. And I just have a lot of thoughts. And we have like long been kind of advocates of, what's her name, Nicole? Lauren. I always call her Nicole. Still, I know. Lauren. She looks so much like a Nicole. Do you guys agree? She does. And Lauren and Nicole are of a similar elk. And is her middle name Nicole or am I just like pulling that name out of my ass?

12:39Well, her new middle name is Sanchez Bezos. But it's not Lauren Nicole Sanchez. I feel like it is. Maybe that's where I'm getting it from. Can you Google it? I'll Google it. Lauren Sanchez. Lauren Wendy Sanchez. She's so not a Wendy. I love that. Okay, so I actually made up Nicole. Cool. We have long been like advocates of them as a couple and they're getting a lot of, you know, there's just a lot of commentary on them, on their choices, on their style. So I'm looking forward to discussing that in what I presume to be the first story. Yes, it's the first story. It's the big club story. We could dive into the stories, but I just don't feel like thoroughly caught up with you.

13:18I feel like we're acting like this is a regular day of toast, not like turdyspig homecoming. We've caught up quite a bit, like on the Patreon. I guess. Oh, speaking of Patreon, I dropped two episodes in the last two days and the one that went up this morning, don't sleep on it. It's my stroller haul. And I'm literally sending it to Shannon Ford. She was calling me about strollers. I'm like, you know, I know a lot about like breastfeeding things. I know nothing. I bought one stroller and I like it and I'm good. You should talk to Jackie. And I was like, actually, she's releasing a Patreon. Just watch it.

13:44Yeah, because I explained like why I have so many strollers, like which strollers I need and you would be set with and I never needed another one. But like then brands send them to me and like they're so fun. Why wouldn't I accept? And then I'm kind of like the car bomb for strollers. I think that I am. But then I also feel like people are going to be like, oh, I have the Nuna Kroona and I have the Graco Freco. And like, I don't even know. I feel like there's so much I don't know. That's what's so exciting. I have the Luna Hoona. The Luna Hoona. You have the Bugaboo Bonky. I have actually the Bugaboo Fox 5 for now.

14:12And the Fox 5 is just a singleton. Yeah. Yes. I have one child. And I can only think that far in advance, you know, there is a bugaboo that ultimately donkey, donkey, donkey, but you can use it as a singleton with a little pouch on the side that you could put Romeo in the pouch. I've seen people do that. Oh, that's actually mad fucking cute. Yeah. Mad cute. Never did it with mine, but mad. No, of course. In terms of catching up with me, I will say this is like kind of modeling how my life will be when I do come back to work full time. Like I woke up, I fed, I got, no, actually I got dressed. Actually, no, I fed, I got dressed.

14:46I fed again. And I had like such a pit, like a dreadful pit, like kind of just the whole morning getting ready. It wasn't like fun. Like I wasn't looking forward to coming back. I was just like, oh, like this kind of bubble is over, even though it's not. That's how a lot of women feel going back to work. The second I left, I was like, bye. Yeah. But the second I left, like bubble was fine. Like I was like, oh, scram. See ya. Ben's home. Like we're good. I think that's very normal coaches. Yeah. Yeah. No, so I'm feeling excited. But like, I don't know. I was I've been looking forward to June 30th like my ass back on the toast like putting these bitches I'm like I love Liz I love Nana like fuck you you love turd um and then I don't know last night I was like maybe it's too soon but it's just one day and also it probably didn't help that Lish had such a big morning we didn't even talk about it so daddy was not home yeah my husband was on the news this morning he's kind of becoming somewhat of a New York man about town let's say that like a socialite a talking head about the comings and goings of business and anti-semitism here in new york but those are two kind of different things but he really is becoming like a talking head yeah he was his head was talking his head was talking he was on fox business this morning varney and co yeah there's lish we haven't talked about this either about the crazy ass fucking lunatic running for mayor in new york who actually won the democratic primary it's actually so scary and he's just like this crazy like actual raging anti-semite and so the jewish community is sort of freaking out and that's what they brought ben on to discuss because he's been very vocal about his dislike of this mom donnie persona um it's very i mean disruptive like for the city and the jewish community because if he does win like what's right everyone has to ask themselves what they'll do a lot of people don't realize that new york city is the largest population of jews outside of israel so it's kind of like a mini israel over here um and we're freaking and we are freaking to globalize the intifada we're freaking and so that's what they wanted to discuss with ben on the pod um on the pod what is that called on the tv on the telly on the tube uh this morning and so they got down to work and i was so proud i was i literally had so good he did so good i had like rube on the boob and he watched of course well he was actually looking at the boob and the boob wasn't facing the tv but he heard he heard papa we were so proud and I was like, I need you to get home because I have to work now.

17:07Just like two talking heads, you know? The schedule of a talking head. Two talking heads passing ships in the night. Literally. Well, he did great. That was really wonderful to see him out there doing his thing and hopefully making change. But who knows? These people are so crazy out here. So crazy. I like went to the park the day after that guy won and I just had such contempt for my fellow New Yorkers. I'm like, you people are disgusting. Yeah, what about your fellow influencers? yikes yeah yeah no it's actually a weird one weirdly the new york city mayoral race has like taken to social media especially tiktok where everyone feels like they have to endorse this fucking crazy person um and i was like since when does everybody care most of you aren't even registered to vote here because you don't like you live here but you're not from here um it was it was so dystopian and honestly i buried my head in the sand a little bit like i'm still very much like in my bubble and i'm like you crazy people i i actually want a part of this like i'm i'm choosing to put my blinders on.

18:03I have a baby to take care of. He slept six hours last night. Like, slay. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like you've got options. You know, you've always got me. Yeah. Can always come on down. We'd love to have you. Yeah. But I know I can't push 30. No brush. No brush. I know I can't push 30. That's why I paid Zoharn. Jackie's Jackie is actually the largest campaign contributor to Zoharn Momdani just to run all Jews, including her sister, out of New York. Just to get my sister to leave New York. And it could be just the thing. Yes. But look, I'm so stubborn. It won't even work. And I destroyed the city.

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23:33That's rocketmoney.com slash toast. Rocketmoney.com slash toast. Very nice, Jackie. Very nice. Thank you, Kojus Wojus. Our first story, the$50 million wedding heard around the world. The Sanchez-Bezos nuptials took place this weekend in Beniche. Lauren Sanchez wore Dolce & Gabbana, and her wedding photos landed her the cover of Vogue. so there's a lot to break down here the digital cover like i feel like a lot of people are skipping past that yeah because i saw that too and everybody was making such a big deal about like these tacky ugly billionaires being on the cover of vogue and that's why anna wintour stepped down is there multiple of them multiple what billionaires being on the cover of vogue is this a pattern i'm talking about them like this is like people the timing of anna wintour i saw i saw that conspiracy theory it didn't work for me but go no i thought honestly i thought maybe except it was a digital cover.

24:29And then I saw Liz P. Woods posted this morning. It's really important to note. Anna's not like leaving and retiring. She got a bigger, better job at Condé Nast. Like the person who replaces her is going to report into Anna. Like she's bigger and better now. That's what we said when we spoke about the story with Liz P. Woods and I, that like Anna is not leaving Condé Nast. She has two roles at Condé Nast still. And she'll have like a more bird's eye view of the whole company. She won't be directing Vogue. I do think there is something, It's not just like this is a promotion because I do think that like Anna Wintour would have died on this throne and like, you know, sort of being put out to pasture.

25:03It's like a board member and like, oh, yeah, she does editorial. So I but this being a digital cover is nothing. It costs them nothing to give her a digital cover. They could give a thousand digital covers. No, for sure. And I also feel like everyone's like Anna probably hates this. Actually, like Anna was the one who started putting celebrities on the cover. So if you're mad at this, the person to blame is Anna Wintour. Like this is kind of the pinnacle of her life's work. Now she's obviously like a snob and looks down on everyone, but like integrating celebrities, if you look at like old Vogue covers, first of all, it was like just faces and it was models.

25:39And now this is like, and it worked for a while. And a lot of other magazines I copied and take note. And she definitely influenced like the fashion community, but why wouldn't Anna like this? I'm sorry. I thought this was a Vogue cover. And so I was just like, wow, that's major for her like Lauren Sanchez on the cover of Vogue like go off queen the fact that this is a digital cover is an absolute nothing burger anyone who has a big celebrity wedding and is a big celebrity gets a digital cover of Vogue yeah I'm no longer a digital cover is where they take your wedding picture and put the words Vogue on top like that's literally it no that's literally like a digital it just is not like even when there's a bunch of magazines that do digital covers it's just like throwing someone a bone and I wouldn't be surprised if Jeff Bezos did make like a very large donation in partnership with this cover and just like supporting the Met to the costume institute and I think that that's like the most important thing to Anna is like raising like she like has to consort with billionaires all the time for that and like it's a huge fundraiser and it's not just about like fashion it's about raising money and like keeping this alive and so and she only got the digital cover like why is everyone so mad no bitches were bothered this weekend everything about this wedding the dress the the stay decor the celebrity guest list the only thing i like kind of agree with people on is like the randomness of the celebrities like just i know there are people there who have never met lauren or jeff like you're telling me sydney sweeney is friends with these people like no she's not she's 22 and they're 100 like please so i agree like and that's just sort of a statement on celebrity culture sometimes you just get like invited places they'll fly you out they'll bring you on a boat just because you're famous and that's like celeb obsessed culture so i agree but everything else people are hating on so hard it's like the dress was pretty the body was tea like what are we talking about no the dress was pretty it's still jane gabbana like white lace buttoned silhouette is like a classic feminine silhouette it's giving olivia waste is like why is everyone so mad this is a beautiful thing to behold there's really no even an alien would come down and say oh yes that is beautiful it's objectively beautiful arbitrarily yeah was there a big piece of duty on it like it's just a white italian made dress yeah so anyone who's like clowning on the dress there's really nothing to clown on there's nothing controversial new or different it's like a traditional beautiful look and she she yeah her body was insane like i'm really excited for her to eat again me too she's probably so hungry that other dress that she wore with no waist you know the one on the boat yep i was hungry just looking at her yeah no she say what you want about nicole sanchez okay she bagged the second richest man what is he third richest i don't know some days like number one yeah it depends on the day i just did a big order i think he's number one right oh and i just want to say i know like billionaires are problematic whatever they don't pay their taxes the way jeff bezos has enriched my life like especially now as an ftm first time mom you are never gonna catch me saying one bad word about him like okay there are a lot of billionaires who do bad for the world jeff bezos does good for the world i don't give a fuck and you know what i I don't want to hear another fucking word about the climate.

28:45Okay. From these people. Well, yeah, that's the thing. I don't want to hear about it from Leo. I don't want to hear about it from these people. And I don't want to see the statistics on private airplanes flying into this tiny Venetian airport. Like, please, you can all like respectfully. Don't fucking talk to me until you're reusing your own bath water. You're not allowed to speak ever again on this particular issue. Make coffee. And if you're not drinking coffee, bath water, I don't want to hear from you. That is also a legitimate critique of this. are drinking coffee bath water i also don't want to hear from you so i just keep your stank breath away from me so i just don't want to hear from anyone regardless yeah that's a legitimate critic critique of like this elk of people are so patronizing and they're always like telling us to recycle bitch you shut up i don't need to recycle if you just take one less trip okay compared to the rest of the world compared to you i have a tiny tiny footprint i'm doing I'm literally an economist.

29:41Oh, no. An environmentalist. Okay. Compared to these people, please. And don't forget I have an electric car. I feel like I don't get enough credit for that. I recycle. I can do what the fuck I want with my single use plastics. I just want to say between us, I've gotten really loose with my recycling because like before I had a baby, like, sure, I can attribute one whole garbage can to bottles and one to trash. Do you know how much trash I accrue now? If like sometimes I just have to throw a dirty diaper in the recycling one. Like, I'm sorry. I need the space. I'm not taking the trash out right now.

30:09The baby's screaming. No, but you know that most of the time they go to the same place. I do know that. And it's like, I'm working so hard digging through like, because Ben never does it. So I'm always like, I'm literally rifling through the trash for nothing. But I get in trouble with my building if I don't. No, it's so crazy. I just saw a video of like some sanitation worker. Like there's a, like a public area of like trash is recycling, trash is taking everyone out. They all go in the same place. Putting them all in the same thing. Yeah. So all's that to say, I don't want to hear from Leo or his constituents on this matter ever again.

30:40Especially him. I feel like this is a real indictment on Leo. I feel like everyone else is like, yeah, save the planet. But they're not so annoying about it. Kim has never told us to recycle. No. Leo. Yeah. Put a cork in it. A big one. A recycled one. Yeah. 100%. Now, I know you spoke about this, but I want to talk about Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom breaking up. because everybody being like this was obviously you know I saw this coming really I feel like they've been the most stable sound like I was shocked beyond shocked and it makes me sad that it's coming on the heels of like her negative yeah because I have to assume it has something to do with it and that makes me sad but the timing just is too convenient otherwise yeah or maybe like maybe they're both related in the sense that like what she's doing in her what we see her doing publicly it might be a reflection of also how she's acting privately which is like a little maybe um but i also it was feel like this is like probably a very hard time for her between flopping publicly and getting divorced and i just i i feel like she'll be a phoenix rising from the ashes you can't keep her down yeah i just was sad to learn and confused to learn that when they broke up like he got the bezos's because she was on lauren nicole's bachelorette She went to space.

32:00She was on the rocket. Like, I thought that was her friends that she brought to the relationship, not his friends. No, I do still feel like it is. And maybe because of her tour, she couldn't go or something because that doesn't make sense. So he was like, why should we both miss out on the wedding of the year? And maybe he has his own relationship with Jeff. And they were both being invited even if they weren't going together. I just feel like the celebrity element of this was Lord Nicole. Do you know what I mean? Like, not Jeff it's doing. Jeff is like a loser. Yeah. actually I saw a video of Jeff like I'm sorry I know that he is like toxic billionaire for sure he's a big loser but he's also a genius right like the way we regard him is not as like a genius but he's so I saw this video of him like in the whenever what was Amazon created like the early 2000s somebody and it had obviously like just taken off it wasn't what it is now and someone was like why did you start Amazon he's like well I he was working in finance and he was like I saw this statistic that internet growth when it was up 200 to 2300 percent this year so I thought I want to start a business on the internet selling stuff and so the guy was like well why did you choose to sell books and what he said was so smart he was like well I looked at different categories and in terms of um number of products books is the category that with the most number of products like if you wanted to sell the second was music but if you wanted to sell the most like offerings to people books is the number one there's the most books when you think of like you could sell food There wouldn't be even enough, you know, comparative.

33:28I thought it was so smart. And then he's like, then we obviously got into other stuff. But he had hair in the video, too. He had like a little brown toupee. It was such an interesting video. And so I was like, yeah, we would like clown on him because he's like a freak, whatever. But he's also like so smart. Amazon is everything. I'm sorry. Like, I love it. No, I've seen that video as well. Oh, you have? Yeah, it's not like just he just decided to be a bookseller and he turned into this big thing. I thought he was like a nerd who liked books. No, I feel like I've been trying to tell you, like he's a nerd all around, like in the way that he's also very smart.

33:59And that's why when he goes to space, like I do think it's genuine for him. It's a real love of space. No, so I still think that the space thing, the space race, like he's a big loser. Like I don't think he had a genuine interest in space. I think he saw like Elon, who obviously like knows space. And I think he saw Richard Branson, who's like an aviation expert. I think he got jealous because I don't think he has a genuine interest as like a hobby in space and aerodynamics. I don't. I mean, he was a man who worked in finance, and he's a tech guy. It's okay to have interests. You don't have to like space just because you're a billionaire.

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34:30Yeah. Well, that's true. But I'm arguing that I do think that he likes it in earnest. But we could go back and forth on this all day. Back to the wedding, I also don't think it was$50 million. So I read$40 to$50, and then I also read$10. $10 sounded a little bit more because it was still just like a wedding, like a party. And they had said there was things about their wedding coming out months ago that it was like this. I don't know what they said,$50 million,$100 million wedding. And Jeff Flick tweeted, you couldn't spend$50 million on a wedding if you tried. Yeah. Yeah. Even if like you picked up everybody's private planes.

35:02And I do believe that they paid for a lot of the celebrities to be there. The same way when we watched. But it was only like a 200 person wedding. So that's not an insane amount of planes. How much did the Indian wedding that the Kardashians went to cost? Let me look it up. It was like, what was it? Was it$100 million? Ambani? I'm Bonnie because now I'm like mom. Yeah, I'm Donnie. Yeah. I'm Donnie. I'm Bonnie. Wedding costs around 600 million. But I also want to say watching that episode, there was a lot of just like diamonds everywhere. I was thinking the same thing. Does that include diamonds?

35:36Does that like there was just jewelry everywhere? Like the table. They had diamonds like in the flowers. I agree. And so I feel like a lot of the money was spent on the diamonds. Yes. But you know that like Chloe and Kim did not spend one cent getting there. They spent$9 million for Rihanna to perform. Right. And then also just like on accommodations. Yeah. Who? Justin Bieber. They also were thousands of people to accommodate versus 200. Yeah. So it was just like a really extravagant rich person wedding. And I know there was like a couple of events before. And they definitely spent a lot of money.

36:13But based on what I saw, like even just like the ceremony, it was like a really nice wedding. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it was$50 million. I'm really happy for Lauren Nicole. Like, I feel like she really wants to be famous and she did it. Like a dream. I mean, it's a dream come true. Everyone's just jealous. No, of course. And Jackie, we could be talking about a wedding between Jeff Bezos and a 19 year old. Like, cause that's what happens. And here is this age appropriate woman. I'm sorry. I like it. Yeah, I agree. They had a long courtship, like a traditionally, like two years until engagement, one year till marriage, all like, what more do you want they seem like they really love each other yeah i'm sorry i just i don't hate this everyone and now some tiktok was like making fun of her dress like it's i'm not i'm not gonna do that some celebs are like clouding to like charlize theron and olivia munn and katie curick did you see katie curick getting salty about this wait what did olivia munn say she's so my queen these days i know here's what she said one second and i kind of like that she's positioning even though i don't agree i don't know what she said but i probably don't agree with it i do like that she's positioning herself as like a celebrity who says crazy things like as an hater oh wait but the last thing she said was also about lauren nicole sanchez i feel like she has beef like for sure so she um this is what she said

37:35oh i guess she was just oh i thought you froze oh my god you were like this is what she said i guess it's a little misleading she was more so um giving praise to mackenzie scott but the time he's a little weird so basically mia farrow posted on instagram saying how awesome is mackenzie scott jeff bezos first wife and mother of his four children as of mid-december 2024 she had given a total of 19.3 billion dollars to over 1600 charitable organizations and then olivia munn responded truly incredible you know what i find incredible that 19 billion dollars solves nothing like because i remember i remember what mackenzie scott did that and it was all for like good shit right like poverty and uh-huh and it's like well there's still so much poverty no i would love to see like what sorts of positivity came out of that because it feels like nothing like the world nothing changed you would think 19 million billion dollars like could really could move the needle yeah now i think that's amazing and magnanimous of mckenzie bezos i find her so deeply unrelatable like that could just never be me like yeah night okay so but she did get what 36 bill if i remember that was like the number she does that uh she half of it she donated to charity i think is the right now of course donating half your money seems like crazy but like let's be real she's still like i thought billionaires are toxic like she still has 20 bill like yeah and you know that billionaire that billion is like you know invested and earning interest over time gave it all away I'll be impressed when you live in like a yeah because I'll think that's fucking crazy I'll be like a crazy person you just gotta own it that's why you just have to own it like stop trying to please everyone like whatever feels right to you that's what you've got to do it does feel like Olivia Munn has some sort of one-sided beef with the Bezos because maybe she's actually not a celebrity who says crazy things she's like a celebrity who's always talking out against the Bezos like the two the two like most recent and only examples are against the Bay's eye yeah yeah oh Charlize Theron said that they suck but like that's so Charlize Theron like I do believe Charlize Theron like lives in squalor to a degree yeah and like she's like a Leo in how she uses her platform at least she's walking the walk like I agree she didn't go then Katie Couric called the cover tacky okay well like that was crazy those in glass houses like You're not like a beacon of chicness.

40:03Let's be real. I just feel like that's so crazy. Isn't she meant to be above this? She's just like a neutral personality. A commentator. A lot of people. Now she's slinging mud? A lot of people were using the words like tacky, cheap, cheesy. Not cheap, sorry. Cheesy. When critiquing the design of the wedding, the decor, the wedding dress. And I just feel like there are very few people who can speak to that. Like you have to be perfect. Like Morgan Stewart, you can critique. Like there's literally a handful of people. Morgan Stewart is quite literally the only person that comes to mind. Yeah. So when I saw like all these people on social media, I'm like, you're ugly and like your clothes are ugly.

40:47So who the fuck are you? Yeah. No, it's so true. I'm really shocked about Katie Couric. Like, sorry, that's just like really throwing me. No, it's, it's, it's, it's, a famous person and I find myself not invited to the Bezos wedding when clearly such a wide net was cast like Brooks Nader was there right like they dipped into influencers models athletes celebrities and so I'm Katie Couric I'm Olivia Munn I'm finding myself not invited like yeah I'm big I'm big mad but I don't even feel like it was a free-for-all I actually wouldn't even be mad like there was 200 people aside from Sidney Sweeney and Brooks Nader you really named the two everyone else can be explained tom brady tom brady it lives in miami where they live right oh okay fair fair and maybe brooks was his date there have been rumors about them maybe he brought brooks sydney sweeney like someone explained it to me a big contract with amazon prime and so they brought their big client but jeff like doesn't even work at amazon anymore okay i agree sydney's like aside from and i'm sure there's a perfectly logical explanation but other than that like everyone else like victoria tretti she's there with leo yeah why was leo there i'm sure him and jeff are friends they seem like the type okay the kardashians they're best friends the kardashians are friends with laura and nicole yes and so like to the fact that the whole family got invited it wasn't just like individual invites it was like to the kardashian family yeah yeah yeah i love that kendall and kylie went me too we got looks for days yeah it's so funny how they were like such background actors when like typically they're the stars and i really love to see chloe taking the crown as best dressed in that family i feel like she always looks good but she's never like the one making the most waves and the most news and that pink dress like everybody agreed she was like the best dressed kardashian perhaps the best dressed guest yeah i agree so i didn't i agree there's like sydney sweeney is a big question mark um she her recent projects have a strong presence on Amazon according to Google Gemini.

42:48I don't believe it. Her movie The Voyeurs is available for rent or purchase on the platform. Jackie, every recent movie has a big connection to Amazon. Additionally, her upcoming film Split Fiction is being produced by Amazon MGM Studios. Furthermore, there are several biographies about Swinney's Swedish film on Amazon. That seriously means nothing to me. Amazon bought MGM Studios like a couple of years ago. They're the biggest maker of movies. None of it. None of it means anything. I just feel like she might have had a big, like she might be a big client of Jeff's and you invite your clients she's not okay but that's the only one everyone I want to say they're not just like the ambanis who literally invited celebrities they never met before yes that was like celebrities for hire and they were proud of it yeah and as they should be and but they had thousands of people at their wedding this was 200 people I do feel like they kept it close-knit and I want to say like say what you want about the ambanis but I actually feel like them just like hiring celebrities to come like did amazing things for like India's PR right like we we watched the Kardashians have an amazing time like for tourism like there was benefits no for sure we keep talking about it correct I think that's a wrap yeah yeah yeah Bezos wedding 2025 all in all I didn't hate it no not at all it was a fun time yeah our next story Beyonce was left dangling mid-air due to a scary technical mishap during her cowboy Carter tour performance yes I saw this So Beyonce was left dangling midair in a car while performing during the first Houston Cowboy Carter tour stop.

44:18On Sunday, she was catapulted into the air in a red car for her performance of 16 carriages, which she does. Which is my favorite song. And while the vehicle was supposed to make its way around the venue. So fans don't have floor who don't have floor seats could get a closer look at her. The car began leaning to one side and came to a complete stop. The car is literally like on its side by the time they bring her down. she was lowered to the ground and safely removed however it was a scary video to watch and I'm sure scary for her and her voice is like trembling if you could see on the monitors she stops the song she said stop stop stop like get me out of here yeah now obviously this is terrible for many reasons but mostly because did she finish 16 carriages like that if I came to the concert I'm coming to hear that song 16 carriages riding away while I like obsessed it's so good did we finished the song oh i feel like she probably finished the song the show must go on i think she didn't i just want to say this is unacceptable like if pink can you know fly through the air with the greatest of ease at all of her arena shows like this shouldn't be happening to beyonce sorry i agree like this should be done better but then it also begs the question like maybe we don't need to fly through the air on a car well i want to say i of course i blame taylor swift for this um because she started this sort of like communist thing where she created like a B stage.

45:38Actually, maybe she didn't create it. People are going to be like, you too did it. Fleetwood Mac did it. Who gives a fuck, okay? Fleetwood Mac used to go to another stage. Yeah, you too. It's always you too, okay? Oh, for me, it's always Fleetwood Mac. But I feel like Taylor Swift really popularized this thing where it's like a second stage, a second something. And now everyone does it. I went to Olivia Rodrigo. She flies around the arena on a moon. Like everybody has a thing where if you have seats like that stink, the celebrity comes in fine. you and it's actually nice right like why should we be punished why can you only see the celebrity if you paid five thousand dollars like but i i blame taylor swift for this because if if she had you know created all this pressure for beyonce to be a communist beyonce would be out here dangling in the air yeah and i saw people tweeting like beyonce we can see you on the monitors like we've got like you don't have to risk your life stay home and i think that's true but i do think in addition to taylor swift pink has set the bar too high for flying for acrobatics yeah and i I think people should get comfortable doing less.

46:40One thing about me, I'm not going to say anything bad about Pink. Probably ever. No, I didn't say anything bad about her. And you know that I would say. No, I could see. I saw you were like pushing a little blame onto her. No, like she does a lot. And she makes these other bitches look bad. She does. And the fact that I have not seen Pink in concert, have you? No, I don't think so. We really need to add that to our list. I hear it's an amazing concert. No, I know. And I would know every single song. I listen to every album of hers front to back. It's just like it hasn't worked out for me. What's your favorite Pink song?

47:17Maybe like What About Us. I love that album. What's yours? That's a really good song. I forget what it's called. Oh, that's all I know so far. That's all I know. And if you ever feel like treating yourself, head over to YouTube and watch her performing on the Kelly Clarkson show with Kelly doing harmony. Yeah. she has so many good songs I saw something on TikTok about Kelly what do you remember how we were talking about how she took like a hiatus and she had like personal things going on yes there is people on TikTok saying allegedly that her ex who we hate is very sick oh man which I feel like kind of made sense with like because Kelly's like a magnanimous queen obviously so she would take time off from her paying job to help the man who tried to steal all of her money the father of her children the father the father of her children if he is really sick like that's so sad um that's just what i saw on tiktok and it felt it felt right that's interesting yeah i wanted to share that with you sad if true and also sad for kelly because then you have to like be the bigger or you don't have to but she obviously would be the bigger person and it's a complex emotional roller coaster yeah damn yeah well um riff washley ma to beyonce yeah the show must Go on.

48:34Speaking of shows, Breener's making headlines as she takes in Olivia Rodrigo's set at Hyde Park Concert in London. So Olivia Rodrigo was headlining the event, the BST Hyde Park Concert, and Sabrina could be seen enjoying the music from the VIP section, like years after their iconic feud. Alternative headline, Sabrina Carpenter's a better woman than I ever could be, because, I'm sorry, like that's still like such a crazy thing and it all worked out great because sabrina's a star now but but she's a star in spite of that not because of it that did not make her a star no it did not but i don't know i feel like if brina weren't breathing as hard as she is right now and like she wouldn't be there she would not be there but like yeah it's easy to go watch the little people no it's easy to be the bigger person when like i would say that when you're the bigger person Olivia's no Olivia's been Olivia's bigger than her but only because she's had a little bit more time at this level but Sabrina in one year or two years time will be doing what like they're on the same exact track but Olivia started maybe like two years before yes I think at this moment today June 30th 2025 I think Sabrina's bigger than Olivia oh that's interesting I don't know if I agree I think that she's a little bit more viral but in term I don't know guys sound off in the comments who is a bigger star open to like all options but the way I see Sabrina is I feel like she makes music for everyone like old young and Olivia Rodrigo feels like just a little more young to me like it's for really young like teeny boppers yeah like the people who go to Olivia Rodrigo concerts probably fit into more of an age bracket than Sabrina who like everyone would go to.

50:29That's very interesting. That's how I feel. I don't know. I had the thought when I saw Sabrina at the concert of like who is bigger. I don't know. I'm happy for both swirlies. They both make amazing music. Like I'm happy to be a benefactor of their talents. Agreed. I do if I had to take a side. Like I am team Briner. But it's like it's it's being made clear to me that I don't have to take a side. But I still am. I just feel like it's good to take sides. Yeah. I just feel like it's good to pit women against other women. And so often we see both sides and we can never pick a side and we ride the fence yeah so when you have a side to pick not we by the way just so you were saying more society not us because we always pick a side us i meant us no i feel like we pick a side you think i feel like we're so diplomatic some and sometimes we really see both sides and like we can't call it sometimes we have to be diplomatic and sometimes like a situation calls for diplomacy right like i feel like the page and craig breakup is a great recent examples of us being extremely diplomatic but i really did feel that way like i can see both sides exactly now sometimes i don't see either side oh of course justin and blake right and then certain sides certain situations i exclusively see one side maybe to my you know to my what's opposite of like to my description to my detriment like like i literally can't see past my hatred sometimes it takes years sam hunt yeah but look at how far you've come in your work I put the whiskey back in the bottle.

51:57Let me ask you something. Pick a side, Kim or Taylor.

52:03Taylor. But that's just a reflection, not of the situation between them, of just like my fanhood right now. Like I'm kind of off Kim and I'm so on Taylor. Does being on Taylor and off Kim make you see the situation differently than you did at the time? no because you know what i know this will always break you no will but like i like i feel like i know taylor's personality and i could see her like seriously being so hurt and offended by being called a bitch right like and i could see like i don't think that was calculated of her to have said like you know that wasn't run by me and then kim was like wait no i literally have a video of us running it by you but it's like well you didn't run by the bitch part like i could see taylor Like, you know, that's like her brand of womanhood.

52:50Like, so I actually, once again, can see both sides. I understand. But I also feel like Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift should never have been friends. Like, you know, it's like high school. Like, not everyone's meant to be friends. They're so different. Yeah. Like, I couldn't see them getting along. Yeah. Well, it looks like Breiner has buried the hatchet. Like, I kind of hate that. I just want to say, like, I agree. Like I kind of hate it. I agree. Like what? A duet next? No thanks. No. It's like it's a little too late. I don't think so. Yeah. And I just don't know how like yeah of course we shouldn't put women against women and like it's not Olivia's fault that Sabrina did.

53:36It's not Olivia's fault that like her fans like tried to have Sabrina killed but like she also didn't help. Yeah. Yeah. And from Sabrina's POV like she just met someone and they started dating and then she became like the villain in someone's story. And I don't even think they like really did. I think it was like a fling and like she got the ick. Like it was like, how did I get here? How the fuck do I get out? Yeah, well, she's out now. Oh, big time. Manchild. Are you ready for our next story? If it's our next story, that's brought to you by Bowling Branch because I'm about to slay the house down.

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58:01They provide access to mental health professionals with a diverse variety of expertise. If you want to unwind from work, do it with BetterHelp. and listeners of The Toast are getting 10 % off their first month when they go to BetterHelp.com slash toast. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P, BetterHelp.com slash toast, BetterHelp.com slash T-O-A-S-T. Thanks, Better Tert. You're welcome, Better Jert. Our fourth story is some news that you're really going to hate. Okay. Rita Ora reveals that she proposed to her husband, Tanko Watiti, and even got down on one knee during a Palm Springs getaway. So Rita Ora has revealed that she proposed to her husband, turning tradition on its head by getting down on one knee herself.

58:45The singer, she's 44. Not only it's like she the woman and he's the man, she is 44 and he's 49. And she shared on a podcast how she broke convention and took charge of the proposal. She said, quote, I just did the thing. We were in a hotel room in Palm Springs, like a really nice fancy one filled up with balloons and cake, which is my favorite thing in the world. I got the bands made. I didn't want anything too flashy. He's like, what the hell is it? It's Valentine's Day. And she was like, oh, no, if you're going to say no, I'm going to have to take my clothes off. Anyway, I got down on one knee and take I absolutely loved it.

59:19So I don't hate this only because I don't care about Rita Ora. You know, if it was like Taylor Swift proposed to Travis Kelsey, like seriously vomiting, like take me to the hospital because I'm not OK. So I don't really care. But you guys know I just hate when women propose to men like men and women have different jobs in this world. Like and that's OK. especially with her being like younger than him i think she's like 15 years younger it's like if she were 15 years older woman i would say like okay maybe no i wouldn't i wouldn't say it then i should no i might be more i just think this is so weird and i just hate this and i'm sorry like i know that there are people who do this and that's great like break with convention like it will never be me i will never think it's like romantic or cute um sorry like this is one of my triggers and if you don't respect my boundaries then that's on you yeah so we'll respect your boundaries and stop talking about this yeah immediately i just needed you to know no thank you i know you saw this story and it said how can i hurt my sister today and add her to the list of becca kufrin yes and rita ora rita ora and unfortunately i don't i won't say which book but it's like one of those really popular like book talk books a book that i was loving until she proposed on the last page.

1:00:32That's really so crazy. And what's crazy is like you would think this sort of girl like who should propose to her man is like a girl whose man's not proposing to her. Like you know if you're if it's taking too long and like you don't fuck it. Why can't I propose to him? I want to get married. But it's never even that. For me that's always the assumption. I'm like oh you propose to your man because your man want to propose to you. Like well he's obviously not the one for you. He should be begging you to marry him. Not like you begging him. Now I know that's not what ends up happening. Like people do it because it's like an empowering thing.

1:00:57I just feel like there are other ways to feel empowered. I agree. And if I was ever going to like root for someone to propose to a man, like I would root for the girl who was like four years dating someone and he wouldn't propose and they either have to break up or she has to propose. See, I wouldn't root for that because if you can't get a man to like after four years to propose to you, like that's not the man for you. I know. We're getting into dear toaster's territory. We are. We are. But I'm like thinking of a certain, like a friend of mine. You don't even know her in my head. and it's like she should have a friend that I don't know well maybe I do need to move to Florida no no she's not even the Floridian and it's like they should have gotten married like they like each other they're a happy couple he's just like it's like you know commitment blah blah blah and it's like if this will get them down the aisle and they could go back to like being the you know in the relationship roommates that they were but she could have a ring on her finger I just ran into my friend at lunch oh you have a friend she just yeah who just got married you know her okay and i was like how's i was like how's married life and she was like the same like people who were like i'm afraid of getting married what the fuck are you afraid of there's literally nothing scary about it no if you're in a relationship like that's the scary part married does not change your life at whatsoever it actually gives you just a sense of like peace and calm and it's a lovely wonderful thing which is why like if you like your relationship and you've been together for years and he just like can't get this is important to your partner just can't get past himself then i then okay woman take it up do the damn thing yeah woman woman so i've repeatedly asked you not to call me woman what's that from what's that from i'll give you a clue murray i have repeatedly asked you not to call me woman clueless so i don't think that's what was happening with rita ora and that's why by the way i'm not talking about rita or not sympathetic anymore but i'm talking about my friend maybe Jackie, just like me and millions of Americans, I'm not talking about Rita Ora.

1:02:50I know, but then I feel like her relationship must be so great because she's just like stopped working. Yeah, no, I believe he's wealthy. And for that, I respect her. Put a ring on it. Wife him up. Yeah, actually, that's the only situation where it's okay to propose to your man if your man has a lot of money. Yeah. Though any man with like his head on right should say no. That's the thing. Like, I know Ben loves me more than anything in this world. And if I had gotten my fat ass down on a knee, he actually would have said no. And he should have. And that's why he's the one for me. Because that's a crazy woman.

1:03:25Yeah, literally. Our fifth and final story is going to lead into our TV recap. If that works for you. It does. My coccidinia is really flaring up. Oh, God. Well, Kylie Jenner reveals a screenshot from her Live Island group chat with Hailey Bieber. So Kylie posted the most relatable thing on Instagram, which is her Love Island group chat where everyone writes in invisible ink because they might not all be caught up on the same episode. Like even we do that in our chat. You're two minutes ahead of me. I need invisible ink. I don't want you to spoil it for me. What was interesting is that Hailey Bieber is in the chat under Hailey Road.

1:04:01Sydney is in the chat. Devin Carlson and Kylie. I would love to know what they were writing. Like, are they as mean as we are? The fact that Kylie, like that Haley, not even Kylie, Haley knows Huda is so crazy to me. I need to know what they're saying. Like what I would do. Can someone find a way to like transcribe this invisible text? I know. When I posted the screenshot of my group chat using invisible text because I wanted to be like Kylie, I was like, there's no way somebody can like decode this, right? And I just want to ask you. So you started doing invisible text in our group chat to avoid spoilers.

1:04:37Was that something that you had seen? Or are we all just like having the same experience of like, hey, let's use invisible text? No, I have a lot in common with Kylie Jenner. And we both came to the conclusion. I also love invisible text. It's a great like way to land a joke. It is. It's really good. I really want to be in their group text. I know. Maybe that would listen. It's okay. Our group text is so good. And the good thing about us is that like some people like have their group text where they like say stuff about Love Island and they would like never say it on their podcast. We say it, you know, like what's in our group text is on our podcast.

1:05:11Let's see what I wrote last night as we get into our TV recap. Last night we didn't have like a big, because no one was really watching at the same time. Oh, maybe I won't say this. Yeah. Well, I do want to say there's been a lot of discourse. I'll do the last one. It's fine. The way that Clark is reading that text, jail. I feel bad for Clark. I don't have any issues with Clark except for the way she read the text of the person whose heart rate was raised the most. And she got to do it for the boys. And the delivery came with a jail sentence. Yeah, because TJ did a good job of revealing who the girls.

1:05:48I didn't even notice it was TJ talking. I'm just hearing the answers. You're supposed to be invisible. She put too much Clark into it. It begs the question, where's the host? I find myself asking this question all the time. Peacock spends a lot of money on Ariana, right? and they're like always like gassing her up. They fly. She lives in Fiji for the summer. She's literally there. She's on the property. And I find, and I know that this is just like what Love Island does that like cell phones run the recoupling ceremonies, but literally why? There's a host. I don't know the reason, but I will say that.

1:06:19And then she comes for some challenges and she comes for not others. I'm glad that she doesn't come sometimes because they make such a meal out of her appearance. The walking slow. And like, I don't, just send a text, please. Like, let's get to the chase. Yeah, no, it's slow. It's slow. Um, so there was one recoupling that was really confusing and it was run by the phones. I forget which one. It was actually insane that there wasn't a host for it. I feel that way. But I also am new to Love Island. I always feel that way. And people are like, no, that's just like what the show does. Like the phones run.

1:06:47But the question is why? Like, what's the reason? Why? When there is a host. If there wasn't a host, I'd be like, all right, that's just like what the show does. But sometimes there's a host and sometimes there's not. Like, are she going over her hourly rate? Like, is she literally there? Is she unionized? She's working too many hours? She sits in a hotel room and just like waits to be called. I don't know. They obviously have a reason. And yes, what is the reason? The reason is the Motorola sponsorship because they're using those flip phones. They look cute. They do look cute. Okay. So last night's heart rate challenge was, I guess, a departure from usual ones.

1:07:22Usually it's everybody performing individually. Like the girl will perform individually for all the guys, which makes a lot more sense than what last night was. Orgy Island. It was one of the craziest things I've actually ever seen. And I know you're like a Clutcher Pearls type of girl. I'm actually not. Like, it does take a lot. I saw you and Taylor Stryker talking about how, like, you're prudes. Like, I'm not. Like, I have definitely, like, a conservative side. But for the most part, it takes a lot to shock me. I found it to be just, like, absolutely disgusting. And I felt like this challenge was on par with the milk challenge where they were spitting in each other's mouth.

1:07:53That one might have been worse. That was worse for me. I do feel like I've been hardened. And, honestly, some of my innocence has been stolen from me. Yeah. because now i watch this stuff and i'm like do more that's all really that's all you got you're not gonna win with that move take your pants off give a live blow job like that's where we're headed yeah no and we almost got there last night yeah no no claudia we're like seriously like minutes away minutes away from someone just like sticking a finger and like if someone like did that because like what's the difference really or someone like going under someone's shirt and grabbing their boobs but that would be like sexual harassment harassment so i feel like there were a couple of instances in last night's challenge where I could tell that the person who was getting kissed or approached like did not want it for Sierra all the guys and all the girls oh Jackie I was gonna say Sierra um for some reason anytime a girl wanted to kiss a girl they went for Sierra not Shelly who has been open about her bisexuality like you think she would be more open to kissing a girl maybe see well Sierra has also initiated girl kisses and previous challenges like with with Shelly's show maybe she is also bisexual we just didn't like hear that because she came on later on the show like I think she's open to kissing girls but like to kiss everyone in the villa like get away from me I felt bad for her too I really felt bad for her I don't know if anybody counted but like how many times somebody got pulled she definitely got pulled the most yeah yeah um and speaking when you were saying like what if somebody went under and grabbed somebody's boobs I feel like and this is what a lot of people on social media are saying I feel like that is what happened with Huda.

1:09:26And there's been a theory for like weeks that Ace likes Huda. So and that's why he was like kind of mean to Jeremiah. And that's why he voted Jeremiah off. And he got his minions to vote Jeremiah off because he like wanted a piece of Huda. And so the fact that like his heart rate was elevated the most by Huda does validate that theory. But it also validates the theory that maybe something happened that they cut out because it does look like Shelly's just like kind of being crazy, right? But Shelly's not a crazy person. And she actually really understands this experiment. And she's also kind of sexually free, right?

1:09:57She's very open about her sexuality. So I do think something was either cut or - Or just went on longer than we saw. Like I think it was condensed. I don't know if there was like an action that was cut. And I'm going to operate as if there wasn't because you could say that about anything at any time. But like Shelly and Chris are kissing on one side. They do their whole makeout and then it's over. Huda and Ace are still kissing. So it's too long. She has her ass. They're in 69 position. That's at first she's kissing him with her ass grinding on him like they're having sex. You know, dry sex. Okay, but that's what everyone was doing.

1:10:32Okay. Then she gets up and turns around and puts her thonged ass in his face and bounces on his face. Then they cut. So I don't know how long that went on for. But I just think the whole thing was too long and too much for someone. someone's ace is essentially shelly's boyfriend like there's not that many couples in the house i would say it's just ace and shelly and nick and sierra where it's like this is my person okay maybe it's time to close off sierra shelly and huda are like oh geez and they're really good friends or they were yes maybe it's time to close off and that's a separate conversation like why doesn't anyone want to close off and i i don't even fault shelly for going with chris because like that's an established connection she's gonna see it through huda could have picked anyone in the villa to have her big one with right and she picked her best friend's man everybody like went around the couch and diddled with the opposite sex and some of the same sex but then everybody also took one person and brought them back to the heart for like the grand finale so for huda to have taken her friend's man it was obviously like her kind of asserting dominance because Shelly is going still you know exploring with Chris and I think Huda knows like if if Shelly will take Chris Chris is going with Shelly you know like Huda is very much like a plan B for Chris What about Huda's love for Pepe?

1:11:51Why didn't you pull Pepe? Don't you have a crush on him? You sent Hannah home So I do relate to Huda in that obviously. But she hasn't even mentioned him giving him another glance. I know Yeah no because she didn't actually care she's just like holding on to people like life rafts Like, because ever since Jeremiah left, she's been really vulnerable many times. And she's been in the bottom a couple of times. I thought Shelly's reaction was completely appropriate. I just, I'm telling you, I've seen a lot of people being like, Shelly has no right. She's literally into Chris. Chris is Huda's partner.

1:12:19She's hooking up with Huda's partner. It's different. Chris is in Huda's man. They're exploring. And Shelly and Chris have the same relationship as Huda and Chris. Ace is Shelly's man. I care less about, like, who's right and who's wrong. Like, thank you, Shelly. I'm ready for the girls to start turning on one another. It has been boring as fuck. Yeah. Everybody being so obsessed with being perceived as a girl's girl and not a mean girl. There's been no inter-girl drama. And thank you, Shelley. Like, I needed to see Andrina being so fucking two-faced. I lived for that. Like, that's my girl right there.

1:12:47I related to her a lot last night because she was just, like, talking to different girls and telling them what they wanted to hear. And then she also was into Pepe, like, queen. And you know what is in a bad spot when she, like, needs two friends around her and she chooses Amaya and Andrina who are, like, the randos of the house. Not her friends. Not her friends. not the crew and like that means she's just like recycled through friends and it's like it i can't just explain like why that's so obvious like yeah i'm just gonna pull the people who i know would just be happy to talk to me because like they're kind of friendless here it's like when everybody turned on lisa vanderpump and so her only friend was joyce rod like you know she was just holding on to her for dear life because she needed someone to talk to at the party and the fact that shelly has all the ogs around her just goes to show like the state of things and i think they all agreed with shelly which makes me think even more so that something was cut because Like we said, we saw their facial reactions and I was like, wait, I feel like something is missing because Pepe is getting involved.

1:13:40Yeah. There was no ambiguity. Sierra said she would feel the exact same way if it were Nick. Right. Alandria, who even though she can't get her own house in order, does like see things clearly outside of her home. I need Alandria to go home. And I say that as a fan of Alandria because it's the classic case. You either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain and say what you want. like I hate Taylor but like he has chosen Clark um that's his right you know we're exploring connections right with Clark he never did opposite with Alandria so even though like it's a betrayal or whatever like wrong and he should love this is they all keep saying like they're not closed off they're all experimenting and they're all exploring so like this is what happens he found somebody he liked better and so we could argue on the ethics of that but at the end of the day she's now just like chasing after a man who does not want her who has done her dirty and she looks bad like I need her to go home desperately and find Jalen Coco should have stayed like Coco yeah to me Coco is a Jalen like really not only like eligible young thing most beautiful person one of the most beautiful not to compare it's not about looks everyone's beautiful but like she was on another level and like and there are other guys in the villa who had interest in her ship Coco and Chris when I saw that recoupling of Casa and Villa I like was just like immediately I need Coco and Chris together me too and there see there's nobody in the house for Alandria like that's been made clear there are a couple of people for Coco yeah so that like addition like these are the worst voters they need their voting rights revoked every single vote they get wrong they were right to keep Elon but that's because the Casa people voted and they're you know not is terrible at voting and i just want to say elan i don't know why they keep calling him elan i feel like his name is elan yeah they keep fucking up his name everyone's and to be honest i am too i don't know what it is somebody i thought it was elan i think it's elan i think elan and huda are a testament to peace in the middle east because like no for real they elevated each other's heart rates like i think that what they could do for for the situation for the very volatile situation hudda is palestinian elon there's been rumors about elon that he's like an israeli idf soldier who like killed yawasin war he's a curly-haired jew from toronto like i feel like i went to camp with him there's like literally nothing nefarious about him um having said that like i need them to to have a convo and like i feel like they could be a beacon of of hope and peace for the region You think they could ease tensions?

1:16:08I do. It's very possible, honestly. And, like, the show kind of, they keep sort of falling into each other's mouths. The show has found themselves, like, yeah, like, they didn't need to cast, like, a Jew and a Palestinian. But they did. And, like, I feel like Jews are never on this show. Like, it's not a show for Jews, you know? Like, they're in bathing suits all the time. Like, they went out of their way. And, like, let's make it work. What if Elon and Huda won the show? And they donated the money. to an organization right measures and they i don't know like it's possible i'm obviously being idealistic but that's i just feel like is that what you're saying yeah so winning couple so far pepe and andrina by the way yes by the way if they get together and they get together makes me so sad why nobody came into the villa with like more hype steam behind them like every guy was ready to drop their girl for her casa more like sort of like derailed all of her momentum so she chose jeremiah he gets sent he got sent home casa more she just becomes like one of the girls again and like she doesn't have any friends and like none these guys all the girls are new to them so like she didn't even get her like shiny new thing moment and now she comes back into the villa is just like a rando like she's just giving such rando and i just want more for her because i really like her are you okay did you think i froze not for a second i thought maybe like you were unwell oh my god i want to i've been planning the whole episode like no i can like hear the background noise continuing to move um i thought maybe like your coccidinia had you in a tizzy oh no i really i thought you were maybe holding a moment of silence for andrena for what could have been andrena's future i like that better that's what i was doing that's what i thought i thought you were about to like just land one on me oh i thought it was a performative joke no it wasn't i was like trying to just like prank you yikes okay um i agree with you like what could have been andrena's future like the timing all of it like Like it just, it was squandered.

1:18:19Now she's just like so random in the villa. And like, so I'm glad that her and Pepe, and it must be like. I feel like she's also just kind of like happy with whoever she's with. She's not super, like she, I think she would do that concept more. She liked that guy. By the way, do you see Michael B. Jordan like likes her photos? What the hell is she doing on the show? I don't know, but she's never had a boyfriend. I do feel like she would just be excited for someone to like her and she can't catch a break. And I think from last night's challenge, we really need to think about like, who were the mutuals heart raised by?

1:18:48like Pepe and Andrina like I think now they're like looking at each other a little differently I feel like that sort of sends a signal to both of them like oh I mean Huda and Ace are another one though that by the way they're the same height it's perfect that would be like that's the season does feel like it's getting a little stale right and I'm so over the OGs they have this like really toxic loyalty to each other and they're like not interesting anymore but on the other hand I can't handle a new person no me either I'm saying anyone else the show needs a shake up like a really big one I thought it was going to be Nicolandria it's not maybe it's going to be haste maybe it's going to be haste maybe it's going to be haste and you know who else is a winning couple my king and queen let me think let me think let me think who's left Austin and Jaden no they're so irrelevant like I actually I respect her like him no but I respect her because she's like trying to be an influencer like she needs to stay on and if she chose Nick in that ceremony she was getting sent home the next day i said the same thing she chose austin yes wisely and that's like best for jade himself but like her heart rate was raised the most by nick she played that all wrong in the sense of like she has no chance with him anymore because now nick is like obsessed with sierra as he should have been so wait who were you referring to oh yeah yeah by the way babes iris and tj like our bland give us nothing but they're like loyal and steadfast and they do look like siblings which more often than not like a couple that looks like they could be related are gonna be together forever like if if in 50 years time they have three grandchildren like i will not be surprised there's just like too normal for this show and i get like nervous for her in the challenge they're like boring because i'm like what are you gonna do like when the twerk that's how i felt about clark yeah because she also doesn't have like all the girls hyping her but i feel like they did a good job of like making her feel they hate her but they didn't want to make her feel i don't know why she just doesn't give me the vibes like everybody else like she's down to orgy clark she's i don't know what it is about her she seems kind of shy i think she's always like putting her hair in front of her face like like a shy girl would yeah and like she doesn't have a lot of friends in the villa just jayden and grayson yeah but they're weak yeah yeah so it's like what you're gonna go around and make out with everyone like they it's just really awkward so i feel that way sometimes for the challenges like some people are of course gonna turn up sierra's like built for this she's so good at it um but then some people i feel really awkward and i thought iris did a good job and like she didn't debase herself yes exactly they went first and i'm glad they went first yeah she was like a puppy it's really cute how to ship her and pepe pepe's just the kind of guy who like goes well with whatever woman's on his arm he's a pot that fits with many lids yeah maybe turd self lid

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