Meghan Markle, Meghan Sparkle: Friday, October 24th, 2025

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0:34Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday. Yay. Last day of Jackie before Jackie's maternity leave. nay boo stay with us we want you don't go maybe i'll be back because the thing is is like i've got plans like i'm really doing i'm so i i'm not worried like you guys are gonna love the content i my desire to podcast with anyone but you no offense to everyone i'm i'm hosting zero i know there's nothing like jackson claude original recipe today is my last day and i'm looking forward to you know taking off and I mean I'm who knows what that will look like even for me but you never know I could I could pop in I would love that and I do want everyone to know like the next two weeks of maternity leave are not booked um because we're in flux right the latter half of November and December like we're slaying we have so many great people but the next two weeks I don't know when Jackie's gonna give birth I would like to come down and see you I might be in Florida so I haven't really booked people in the next two weeks um so it's gonna be like a lot of friends and family like you know ben's offer margolash taylor strecker energy um which is great but just know i've got like the big guns after jackie like i don't know not take your birth about me but like if you could figure it out that would really help me i know you were like yelling at me yesterday to tell you when i'm gonna go and i gave you like a an educated guess so let's see if i'm right you could do let's see if i'm right on my guess but it's really crazy i guess this happens like every time where you just really don't know there's like a four week span five weeks span where it really could be any day yeah I didn't have that experience because I did have a scheduled c-section which low-key there's a lot of things about my birth journey that like I didn't love but knowing exactly who what when where why how is so underrated especially for work like I stopped working on Friday I missed the toast Monday Tuesday and I gave birth on Wednesday yeah in the past I've slayed both times and so like let's see how this shakes out if I'm like here twiddling my thumbs in two weeks being like I could have been working yeah we'll see well just know if you wake up and you're like I want to toast like I will kick off whoever okay because it's gonna be bad like yeah um the part like the thing is I love to toast the hard thing is is like the waking up part because sleep is so fitful for me it takes so long to fall asleep I'm stay asleep by 7 a.m.

3:14I'm like finally feeling like lighter and I'm cozy right like you're you're back into REM at 7 a.m. that's exactly what I experienced too like the night is so hard but by the time it's morning you finally fall asleep right so like that's when I want to sleep and that's when I have to get up to work so that's why it's hard but like sitting here talking my swirly actually it has been painful also SPD visibility I've got a lot of outreach and love from people who have suffered from SPD and I just really feel so seen that like okay you guys know what I'm going through yesterday was kind of SPT visibility day like everyone was talking about it yeah I feel like a lot of us well not not a lot a handful of us have been like suffering and it's funny because when you go to the doctor you like talk to a friend you're like I'm pregnant and I'm in pain and they're like well of course you are you're pregnant you're pregnant and like nobody is worried like it's not that anyone takes you seriously but like yeah being pregnant is painful and uncomfortable and you You have, oh, you have pain in your vagina because you're pregnant.

4:11Oh, welcome to pregnancy. No, so it's like, but there's a threshold. And I'm glad that all of us who are experiencing it, like we see each other. Someone wrote in a comment that like they were talking to a midwife who had worked with a woman who had done a bunch of like home births, no epidural, no pain. And in one of her pregnancies, she had SPD. She said it's more painful than giving birth. So you're in a great spot, it sounds like. I am. You've been training for this moment. You shouldn't even be afraid of birth. No, but I actually, you know me, I'm like, I'm always going to get the epidural, but I'm definitely natural.

4:47I was saying to Ben, I'm like, Jackie's so close. I'm natural birth curious. I'm home birth curious. I'll never go. I'll never do it. But I have so much respect for it. I'm very interested in it. But in this situation, I need an epidural for my SPD. So I actually ended up on a home birth talk and I'm not home birth curious at all. I just cannot stress that enough. And while when I think of home birth, I think of like it being, you know, like weird and painful and like unnecessary. But I didn't even think about and I ended up on like a really sad part of it that like there are casualties. Like sometimes you're like you need the hospital or whatever.

5:27And like to me, that makes it not even remotely worth it. like the risk of not needing a hospital and not being near one. So like, I actually, I'm going to encourage you not to. No, no, you don't have to encourage, I'm not having a home birth. But I'm, I'm very, my ears perk up when someone's talking about a home birth. They need to come out with a fusion of birth where you give birth at a hospital and they let you go home that day because like the sleeping in the hospital is so horrible. Yeah. My friend just gave birth and I was FaceTiming her and she gave birth at the exact hospital that I did.

5:59and we were like talking about like she was showing me her room and I swear I actually had PTSD like I always say the best day of my life was literally not the day Ruby was born it was two days later when I got to lay in my bed with Ruby right but when you do a home birth just saying I know one of the perks for sure not worth it yeah no I understand what you're saying um anyways I just need that epidural for my SPD is what I'm saying you're so close we are going to miss you so dearly and again if you want to start doing like the evening thirst we'll work around you because like like I said I have stellar A-list talent coming and I'm so excited but it's not the same nothing like a little Jackson Claude this doesn't feel like going to work like this is just so fun um and yeah like it's gonna be work yeah I'm going to work but you know what you'll be creating conversation you'll really be like the elk of a podcaster that's how I felt on your maternity leave like we're creating conversation we're having dialogue we're renting studio space we're opening minds and hearts yeah which is fun purposeful work it's so important that like we constantly be creating purposeful content i mean it is we do thankfully like we have so much purpose in our pinky fingers it's not something that we struggle with but it's hard like i feel like when you don't feel like you have purpose that could be a hard guys feel we've got a great show today jack and i both watched the new episode of the kardashians literally the best show ever made um i i was i don't know how long it was it was 60 minutes of just giggles like i was just enjoying every minute of it um we have fast five we have queenie and weenie so much to look forward to i also started the new season of nobody wants this i'm just like so in my content era got logged out of the netflix household again last night oh me too what episode did you get up to and nobody wants this i think i watched two of them um i got up to the part where tova feldshire who plays the mom says and i have caesars did you see that yeah that's the last thing i saw too i was cracking up ben was dying i love her me too that's an actually a great casting yeah i can't get over how much they are the sisters the oh wait by the way especially this season Morgan the hair so Sarah Foster yeah it's it's really um it's uncanny it's uncanny I was noticing it more this season than ever I feel like last season I was just so excited about the show I forgot that they were supposed to be Sarah and Erin I was like it's just loosely loosely loosely based no it's actually like a hot uh an adaptation if you will it's literally copy and pace the only differences are that her husband's not a rabbi he's just a jew um sarah at least like previously was in a relationship so like she wasn't and she like has kids yeah so she wasn't like single talking to sasha oh yeah i don't like i'm i'm i what's his uh jonah what's his name sasha in the show oh sasha sasha sasha yeah like i want him and his wife to work it out yeah no they're the right for each other like even though you know she's an aggie bitch wife to a T she's his naggy bitch wife I just want to say I understand her most like on the show I feel like I see myself most in her yeah no I like I know she's like not super likable but she's real she's so real yeah um so I'm just in my content era me too I've been watching so much tv as I've put myself on bed rest for the latter halves of the day I do have put myself on bed rest it's actually so not true the thing i like thought about parenthood before i was a parent and it actually has been so true everything i thought i knew you know i'm like i'm not gonna use pacifiers like oh yeah sure the one thing that i thought before motherhood that is 1000 true is like you do not get into bed until it's time for bed yeah i used to lay in bed all day now i don't even get under the covers until 8 p.m it's insane no you get out of bed and then you that was in your special yeah that was in my comedy special like it was a joke it's one a thousand percent factual Yeah.

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17:18Wait, wait, wait. She had the baby already? Yeah, there is a baby. I thought she was pregnant. No, there's a baby. Whose baby? We don't know. How old is the baby? It's looking like maybe. Wait, I want to see these pictures. Go to page six. Maybe she has a male nanny and it's Jordan's baby. three four five months baby oh every month counts you know oh i see i see oh how old is that baby looks i mean she looks great she doesn't look like she recently gave birth but you know she could have snapped back surrogate a lot of things could be happening here and that's why like this isn't really a spoiler because we need to know more but it seems as though sparkle megan has a baby and in the preview for the reunion like they only showed like one question it was like nick asking you know jordan made you feel like you had said that you didn't know if you were ready to be a mom do you still feel that way i think she is a mom today that's insane and you know what it's a real shame netflix couldn't keep this under wraps because if we all found out like we would have freaked yeah and And people like are freaking.

18:34And I had heard, like first I heard the spoiler that like someone from Love is Blind this season has a baby. And it's not with their Love is Blind partner. And I'm like, well, unless it's with another cast member, like I don't really care. No, I care. It being Sparkle. Is huge. And Jackie and I were talking about this offline. And it does really support her theory from yesterday that like Megan really did go into this experiment earnestly. Like she's at a time in her life where she's eager to commit. And her ending up now with a new man and a baby like is just proof of that. And I agree with you.

19:02And I never thought that she wasn't competing earnestly. I just think that like she could have tried harder to make it work with Jordan. But like by the end where they sort of like package her out is like, oh, well, maybe I'm not going to be a mom and I'm just going to play tennis and golf and like stick to my hobbies. Clearly, that's not what happened. Yeah. So when we were talking yesterday, I did know that she was the one who was rumored to have a baby. So I'm like, OK, that definitely plays into account here. also it reminds me I said this to you of Lindsay Hubbard where it's like yes oh I'm getting like we're engaged oh we're not engaged moving on baby gonna be a mom yeah no it's a good comparison I'm really happy for her um I feel like I lead the Jordan and Sparkle rekindling club and we've officially closed shop like it's not happening and I feel like this is going to be crushing for Jordan to hear.

19:55But I also wonder how he found out. If he found out with everyone at the reunion or she must have told him before. Or yeah, or maybe everyone knew if she was pregnant, like if she was seeing her friends from the show, like people might have known. Okay, but like when was like... So typically it's about a year out.

20:16When was Love is Blind most recent season in Denver filmed? Yeah, we do need to know every month counts here. right right every month of the baby's age right who's this guy oh the age-old question who the fuck is this guy chat has really not been working i i feel like you don't ask chat honestly like this is a question for like reddit literally okay i'm doing it is blind season nine okay thank you spring 2024 okay i need to know like a little bit like okay so that's like a year and a half casting began in march 2023 with pod dates taking place around march 2024 february and march okay okay this gives us time do the math for me okay i don't get it so if they started in march say her her and jordan broke up in May, June, roughly.

21:17Uh-huh. This baby, like, and say this baby's three months, four months, let's say four months. So she met someone like three months after. She got pregnant like three, three. It's so Lindsay Hubbard. Three to six months after breaking up with Jordan. It kind of feels like then it wasn't planned. Unless this is an ex. right i like that yeah this is so crazy and this is the best possible promo they could have had for the reunion because like for this season that was otherwise when nobody gets married it's like well what do we need a reunion for um but no we need a reunion and i'm like i'm watching lives my baby yeah go sparkle go sparkle i love this for her i've team spark i've been rooting for sparkle and she like you know she talked the talk and she's walking the walk that's true it's nice to see somebody who went on the show it's like her niece literally even though that page six article said that this man is basically living at her house he comes in and out he seems to be living in her home has been out all hours of the day she was not pictured with the man she was spotted running errands visiting a local hospital going grocery shopping oh how fun for her that they're following her for all of this okay like slay also sparkle getting papped i'm sure she didn't think that or else they would have tried maybe like the idea that a love is blind maybe season one but the idea that a love is blind star would get paparazzi is so inconceivable that they never even thought like to cover the kid's face or hide the kid like or hide the guy he's outside in the front yard in the pictures he's talking to the neighbors someone must have tip them off yeah maybe netflix themselves to like drum up generate it worked it worked go sparkle go it's your birthday go sparkle uh uh but yeah like we need answers and we need them now yeah i don't know when the reunion comes out but it needs to be coming out now yeah sack's gonna flip yeah i oh that must be such a joy like to be someone who's not chronically online who just watches a show that they like.

23:29I don't know. Zach's like really always sending me stuff on Instagram. He actually might stumble onto this piece of information. But if he doesn't, like, please record his reaction. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know where. I think when after we watched the finale, I was like, have you seen any spoilers? And he said no. I think he's like, yeah, no. What? He doesn't like know what a spoiler is. Like, I just, I honestly. Like, what do you mean? The show is over. What spoilers would there be? Like, it's out. Okay, please record his reaction. okay i will so stay tuned major major news in the sparkle sphere in the sparkle sphere which jackie's like the mayor of i didn't see that for myself when i met her because i was like the most sparkle i was like this is so stupid sparkle megan megan i need josh peck to just like record a video for me of him saying megan like that so i can use it all the time so i can on the show on our on our soundboard like we need a sparkle megan it's actually an amazing idea there's some we're always talking about some megan megan markle megan sparky megan sparkle oh has anyone put that together megan markle megan sparkle title are you ready for our next story

24:50yeah some major transformation news britain's gone talent star susan boyle stuns fans has a bob with an unrecognizable look susan boyle has shocked fans with her new dude it's not just that she has a new dude but she's like snatched herself all the way up um let me look at the picture hold on while making a rare red carpet appearance in london And the singer slipped out with a blonde bob and blunt bangs while she attended the Pride of Britain Awards at the Grusnerner House Hotel on Monday. Yeah, like Susan Boyle is snatched. What about it? She looks so fucking cute. She's so cute. She has bangs and a bob and it's like a blonde bob.

25:37She's royalty. Like she's British royalty. I don't know if she's been knighted by like Buckingham Palace yet, but she absolutely should be. Dame Susan Boyle. And the crazy thing about Susan Boyle, like if we now look back at it, the reason why she went like so viral was like kind of mean. Sort of. I think she had this amazing voice. And it's like, yeah, that's why she went on Britain's Got Talent. It's like she was so like and she's ugly. She was so unassuming looking. It wasn't just that her hair was like a little like.

26:12Like the voice like really didn't matter. Like she just like her whole energy. It's not just like an, I don't even want to use the U word. No, but that's what they made it seem like at the time. They were like, she has a beautiful voice, but an ugly face. And it's like, she's so normal looking. No, but it's like everybody who watched the clip, like it was the literal most viral clip of all time. Like it was before everything's viral now, you know, everything's viral now. But like it was, I mean, it happened in Britain. Like it was cross continental. it was global it was the biggest video ever yeah like and for a reason not just because we're like she's not pretty everything goes viral now yeah it was just really shocking because also she was very unassuming in her like presentation and then she had not just a good voice like the voice of an angel and she's singing that song that like i dreamed a dream she's like I'm gone.

27:06It's like Andrea Bocelli and like this little woman's body. Like it was shocking. And there are dreams I never draw. Honestly, I want to watch it. Should we play it? Yeah. But can I play it so I can watch my queen? No, I want to watch Susan Boyle audition. Well, do we want her audition or like then her big performance at the end? No, the audition. Okay. Oh man, it's like before TV was like high quality. Oh, and they're all making faces.

27:49Chills.

28:07This song is so good. I love her. Yeah, you kind of are Susan Boyle. She's like, she's so Pat Moore. Oh, and like her last name being Boyle. Well, that was for you. That was unfortunate. She's so Pat Moore. It would be like if Mrs. Pat Moore tried out for Brayden Scott Talent. Has there ever been like a sit-down podcast full-length interview with Susan and her Boyle? I feel like, yeah, she makes the rounds. Susan Boyle podcast. And there are dreams that never die. That song is so Lea Michele singing with her fake mom, Adina Menzel. Maybe not. We need to. I had a dream my life would be. We need to add her to Dream Guests.

28:51From this hell I'm living. So more now than what it seems. Did you say we need to add her to our eligible bachelor's list? To Dream Guests. yeah like that i would love that yeah you would love it um so shout out suzy suzy b suzy b suzy b suzy b b's for bob looking good yeah slaying the house down boots slaying the house down boil our next story is some more jelly roll news i don't know like why he's decided to pop off this week but jelly roll confesses to cheating on his wife bonnie xo during the worst moment of his life so her name is bunny her name is wait hold on it does say bunny i was like wait he was married before he cheated on bonnie but not on bunny yeah no that did say bunny i imagined the top half of the you that's okay um unfortunately this is like not a sleigh no but this is really crazy so he opened up about his affair on tuesday's episode of the human school podcast um to make news on someone else's podcast when his wife has a podcast is even more egregious than the affair yeah that's actually really crazy like this is classic like podcasting couple on our own like janna kramer um and that turnt but maybe that's why like this is why are you laughing i just like that i'm joking my head that i'll share with you later um but maybe that's why like this is like healthy you know because they're not like duking it out on her podcast right right like for clicks yeah did i send you a clip of a couple duking it out on a podcast yesterday i saw one i don't know if i sent it who was the couple i don't want to say they're a really nice couple but it was just like like wasn't me and men no it was um just because like yeah I don't want they're really nice where are you sending this to me I'm just texting I'm just texting you the name it was just like too much um too personal I felt oh interesting anyways jelly roll cheated on his wife back in the day he said i don't talk about this publicly at all but one of the worst moments of my adulthood was when i had an affair on my wife he said the repair has been special and we're stronger than we could have ever been his transgressions occurred while he was spending time with people who were a bad influence he said i was hanging around a bunch of people that were cheating on their wives when i was doing cocaine and I was hanging around a bunch of people that were doing cocaine.

31:39When I was drinking a lot, I was hanging around a lot of people that were drinking a lot. He said, I used to be proud of longstanding friendships just because they had a number attached to them. Horrible humans, but I would just be proud to say that dude's been with me for 12 years. I understand. He said, I wanted to... No, I'm like loving all the points he's making. Yeah. Like I can't endorse. No, no, I don't endorse him cheating on his wife, but like accountability, check. The growth appears to be there. yeah and i think this is a like a wonderful story of how you can come back from something like this yeah but also if you have to change your entire life and i like you sleep with the dogs you get fleas so true so who did he sleep with like it was it did he go into detail and it's not here if he did and also it sounds like the way he worded it like you can say like i cheated on my wife or i had an affair so like affair makes it seem like it was more than once yeah and that like he was with guys who are doing this um she's addressed it sounds a little gay like no it doesn't no i'm kidding it's just like all we were all getting together and like fucking right each other right um she's touched on it a little bit but like she doesn't talk about it too much um i didn't know any of this but it's like a known part of their story that he's opening up about that's good i mean i guess like if it like you could only talk about it openly if you are like truly healed yeah um like damn that's kind of the kind of the first like non-p-jump actually that's not true like jelly roll literally went to jail for aggravated or uh drug dealing armed robbery yeah so i guess that's not p-jump behavior either yeah no i think like the p-jump nature of jelly roll is like despite in his growth yeah in spite of all in his past his mistakes yeah he has emerged a pijam yeah it's in the growth yeah precious growth precious growth of a man are you ready for our fourth story yeah i feel like so giggly today you are um i'm gonna miss you so much like please don't go just like podcast through birth maybe i should just like Stop being so funny.

33:57Yeah. Okay. Well, this next story is really big news. I don't fully understand it, but I do feel the need to talk about it. Okay. Classic. You heard about this gambling scandal in the NBA. Not only have I heard about it, my husband won't stop talking about it. So maybe you know something about it. I know nothing. Because I just know that a documentary is going to come out about this, and it's going to be the biggest thing. And I'm going to be like, where was I that day? Why didn't we talk about it? So here I go attempting to talk about it. Are you ready? Mm-hmm. Hornets guard Terry Rozier was indicted as part of an investigation into insider sports betting.

34:34A separate investigation into what law enforcement described as mafia-organized rig poker games led to charges for trailblazers coach Chauncey Billups. So two prominent NBA figures were arrested on Thursday in a nationwide federal investigation. One is a coach. One's a coach, one's a player. And I think like other people were arrested who are retired players. Yeah. But literally don't take anything I'm saying as truth because I don't understand. A federal investigation into internal gambling and high scam poker, especially a sitting coach and former finals most valuable player have roiled the league from players to front offices to agents, sources told NBC.

35:14The arrests altered the tenor of this week's conversations around the NBA, whose new season had only started two days earlier, as we discussed. NBC, NBC. It's the home opener. So, yeah, there's a big gambling scandal in the NBA. And it's connected to the Gambino crime family, right? Like, that's what makes it so crazy, or did I make that part up? I feel like, I don't know if it's connected or akin to. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I feel like, because I keep reading that it was, it's just. No, I'm right, I'm right, I'm right. Oh, okay. Yeah. So like what were they doing? Gambino, Bonanno, Genovese, and Lucchese meet the mafia families in the NBA scandal.

35:57So what were they doing? Betting.

36:04Like were people throwing games? Illegal sports betting and rigged poker games.

36:15I don't really get it. I don't really get it. It would be crazy if like... Here's what the FBI director said. The fraud is mind-boggling. It's not hundreds of dollars. It's not thousands of dollars. It's not tens of thousands. It's not even millions of dollars. We're talking about tens of millions of dollars in fraud and theft and robbery across a multi-year investigation. From poker? Behind the headlines, here's what we know about so-called New York mafia families that have been quietly involved in international sports betting operations and other crimes in recent decades, despite a dedicated Justice Department and FBI campaign to eradicate them.