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The Toast Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title
Memoirs Of A Daddy: Wednesday, February 25th, 2026
Hosts
Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Episode Overview In this episode of *The Toast*, hosts Jackie and Claudia discuss various trending topics, including Sofia Franklyn's upcoming memoir, celebrity podcast news, Kim Kardashian's new venture, nominations for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and the expansion of the *Summer House* franchise.
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Key Topics Discussed
- Sofia Franklyn's Memoir
- Title: *Daddy Issues*
- Content Focus: The fallout from her time on *Call Her Daddy* with Alex Cooper.
- Cover Reveal: Features a photo of Sofia and Alex with Alex's face crossed out, likened to a "Mean Girls" burn book.
- Themes:
- Emotional and physical consequences of the fallout.
- Feelings of betrayal and personal reinvention.
- The memoir is prompted partially by Alex's documentary on Hulu, which glossed over their past.
- Discussion Points:
- The hosts speculate on the potential for a TV adaptation of the memoir.
- They also discuss the deeper implications of the fallout and how it impacted Sofia's mental health.
- Lil Dicky and Benny Blanco's Podcast
- Podcast Title: *Friends Keep Secrets*.
- Content Overview: Light-hearted and casual, with a recent viral moment featuring a humorous incident.
- Hosts' Views: Jackie and Claudia express skepticism about the show's potential for success but acknowledge the accessibility of the podcasting medium.
- Kim Kardashian's New Venture
- Role: Co-founder of an energy drink brand, Update.
- Product Features: Claims to be caffeine-free and wellness-focused, aligning with Kim's wellness branding.
- Hosts' Reactions: General fatigue regarding celebrity involvement in various product lines but recognize the trend of celebrity energy drinks.
- Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nominations (2026)
- Notable Nominees: Shakira, Lauryn Hill, Pink, Jeff Buckley, Phil Collins, Wu-Tang Clan.
- Hosts' Discussion: Excitement about the diverse range of nominees and the inclusion of various genres beyond traditional rock.
- Anticipated Performers for Ceremony: Speculations on who might perform tributes during the induction ceremony.
- Expansion of the *Summer House* Franchise
- Current Developments:
- Plans for new iterations of *Summer House* in different locations.
- Discussion about the necessity of capturing the summer house culture and weekend getaway concept.
- Hosts' Suggestions: Potential locations include Jersey Shore, Nantucket, and other weekend getaway spots across the U.S.
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Key Takeaways
- Sofia Franklyn’s memoir could provide significant insights into her experience with *Call Her Daddy*, challenging the established narrative.
- The hosts remain critical but intrigued by celebrity podcasts, reflecting on how accessibility doesn't guarantee quality.
- Kim Kardashian's new venture exemplifies the trend of celebrities diversifying into the health and wellness market.
- The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominations showcase a blend of iconic and contemporary artists, highlighting the evolution of music genres.
- The expansion of *Summer House* reflects an ongoing interest in reality TV dynamics and the changing landscape of summer vacation culture.
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Conclusion This episode of *The Toast* delivers a mix of humor, insight, and critical commentary on current cultural phenomena, primarily focusing on the intersection of celebrity and personal narrative. The hosts maintain a conversational approach, making the discussions relatable and engaging for their listeners.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOValentine's Day Flower Saga
0:45 to 2:00
Discussion about a Valentine's Day flower mishap and its humorous aftermath.
“And you do have, like, sort of, like, multiple sides to you.”
Target Adventures
2:00 to 5:00
Sharing experiences from a trip to Target and observations about family life.
“And then Ben went on his podcast saying that when we were at your house and Zach sent you flowers, it reminded Ben that he didn't get flowers.”
Creative Design Show Experience
5:00 to 7:30
Overview of a design show attended and the unique ideas encountered.
“Like, I guess if you're like a single, not a single, sorry, a stay-at-home mom or you're like home with your kids, like you're just going to go to Target.”
Exploring Reading Habits
7:30 to 10:00
Discussion about reading preferences and finding the right books for partners.
“We went to this design show in Palm Beach that's like a really big.”
Cultural Activities and Goals
10:00 to 14:00
Reflecting on cultural activities and aspirations for better couple interactions.
“It's a book that I should have read because it's like, you know, popular book.”
The Importance of Reading and Recommendations
14:00 to 17:20
Explore the significance of reading and discover popular book recommendations.
“Wow, I deeply relate to Zach in that way because a book is also like an image thing.”
Sisterly Bonding and Nostalgia
17:20 to 19:20
Reflect on cherished memories and the changing dynamics of sisterhood.
“I feel like we need to take a sister's trip to LA with her.”
A Call to Reconnect with Family
19:20 to 22:30
Discuss the need for familial connection and future plans for sister trips.
“Oh, do you want us to plan a trip, the four of us, and we could stay at the Mr.”
The Allure of Fame and Broadway
22:30 to 24:20
Delve into the challenges and excitement of fame, particularly in Broadway.
Hospital Bill Surprise
29:58 to 31:06
A personal story about unexpected medical billing experiences.
“I tried to write this in the family chat, but like there was a lot going on and nobody answered me.”
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Postpartum Billing Issues
31:06 to 33:42
Discussion about billing frustrations after childbirth.
“So whoever started that fucking lie on the internet that you should call for an itemized bill, fuck you, okay?”
Memoir News: Sophia Franklin
33:42 to 36:30
Discussion on Sophia Franklin's upcoming memoir about her podcast fallout.
“Our first story are kind of two of our favorite categories of news.”
Exploring the Fallout
36:30 to 42:00
Analysis of the fallout between Sophia Franklin and Alex Cooper.
“because like she's sort of the injured party.”
The Call Her Daddy Saga Unraveled
42:00 to 44:30
Explore the complex dynamics between Alex and Sophia from Call Her Daddy.
“They had a lot of sagas, like famous episodes, like how people go back and watch.”
Anticipating Sophia's Book Release
44:30 to 47:20
Discuss the implications of Sophia's upcoming book and its potential revelations.
“I don't think it had to do with this, but like kind of like a very sad story.”
Lil Dicky and Benny Blanco's Unique Podcast
47:20 to 50:14
Dive into the controversy surrounding the nude podcast by Lil Dicky and Benny Blanco.
“I didn't even realize it was a roof in COVID.”
Kim Kardashian's New Venture in Energy Drinks
50:14 to 56:00
Examine Kim Kardashian's new role in the energy drink industry and its implications.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominees
58:59 to 1:10:00
Explore the nominees for the 2026 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
“Our next Story, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 17 nominees for 2026.”
Relationship Drama Unfolds
1:10:00 to 1:10:53
Discussion about a misunderstanding in a relationship that caused tension.
“So she then hears like she walks into the conversation.”
Introducing New Characters
1:10:53 to 1:11:38
Talking about new cast members on a show and their dynamics.
“Because I remember there were new girls.”
Analyzing Past Relationships
1:11:38 to 1:12:32
Debating the implications of past relationships on new interactions.
“But if he's bringing someone who he like has he he can't hook up with anyone in the house.”
Critique of Jesse's Behavior
1:12:32 to 1:14:15
Discussing Jesse's questionable actions towards women and their impact.
“And I think based on the previews, she has something going on with someone else in the house.”
Navigating Reality TV Opinions
1:14:15 to 1:15:25
Hosts express their views on reality TV and public perceptions.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03Sofia Franklyn:Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.
0:22Jackie Oshry:I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy. Why am I having such a hard time this week? Tuesday? Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. It is hump day. Don't forget to have someone you love. And speaking of somebody that I love, it's Jacqueline Phile. I love Miss Phile. Thank you so much for taking the time to join our show.
0:36Lil Dicky:Of course. I always take the time. You actually, like, I'm someone who doesn't take the time. I know.
0:39Benny Blanco:I'm not, we're not, like, a guest-based show. So, like, sometimes it's fun to welcome people to the show. You like to pretend that I'm your guest. Yes. And you do have, like, sort of, like, multiple sides to you. And it's, like, kind of like a new guest every day. Really? I feel like I'm so, like, rock solid.
0:54Claudia Oshry:You know what I mean? You're very dynamic. Thank you so much. You have multiple personalities. I have multiple rocks. Cura. In my solid. So if I was your guest, like, what would you want to be interviewing me about? I wouldn't because I want to talk about myself and something that happened to me today. I should say welcome to the toast. Oh, so you're stealing my intro. Thank you, Claudia, for joining us today. Claudia, tell us about yourself and what it's like to be turd self. I want to talk about something that happened yesterday at Valentine's Day. Okay.
1:21Jackie Oshry:The flowers.
1:22Claudia Oshry:Yeah. What? You were saying it like something I don't know. Like you were about to tell me a story. Well, you kind of don't know.
1:29Kim Kardashian:I don't. What happened in your house? I told a story on the toast yesterday that like Ben also told on his podcast and his version was like, oh, slam dunk on Claudia. Like, OK, so obviously.
1:40Claudia Oshry:I also can't believe that if we hadn't just happened to mention this like stupid flower thing that you would never know that he said that on Good Guys.
1:47Kim Kardashian:Yeah. So, yeah, right. Because I don't listen to their show.
1:51Jackie Oshry:So I told the story. if you're not familiar with this saga yesterday that like on Valentine's Day, we were at Jackie's house and Jackie got flowers. And I yelled at Ben for not getting me flowers. But turns out they were at home and we just weren't home and they were very beautiful. And I had to apologize. And then Ben went on his podcast saying that when we were at your house and Zach sent you flowers, it reminded Ben that he didn't get flowers. And so we went into the other room in that moment, ordered flowers. And then they were there when I got home. And like, obviously I knew that. Like I was trying to protect my husband, like by trying to make him look good.
2:17Kim Kardashian:He's like disgustingly honest. So yeah, the man forgot to get me flowers. Imagine how many years have we been together? 15. No, not a single flower. And then he had to like, and then this is just like where you're going to piss me off because I am all about like a fiscal conservatoriness. And because Ben went so nuts and didn't get flowers, he had to then overcompensate. So instead of like a normal person getting like three dozen roses, he got seven. It was$700 on flowers that I threw out two days ago. So like, that's dumb. Yeah. So not only are you forgetful, but you're also irresponsible. Like jail twice.
2:53Kim Kardashian:Two life sentences. Yeah.
2:55Benny Blanco:So yeah, guys, I know. It wasn't like a big, oh, look, dirty. Like I knew. That's like really sweet. No, like I lay it all out here on the podcast like to a point. Like I'm trying to protect my family. I had no way.
3:05Lil Dicky:Just want you to know I really, I bought what you were selling.
3:08Kim Kardashian:Yeah. And like I make like my bones on like making fun of Ben. So like sometimes I try to protect him and just like not everything needs to be shared. and in his defense he was like well I assumed you were just going to tell the story on the podcast
3:20Benny Blanco:like no I protected you you didn't protect yourself like I can't help you there your
3:24Claudia Oshry:protection ends here oh yeah no more secret service also I'm sure the florist like has
3:30Lil Dicky:up charges people who ordered like who forgot to order flowers and they definitely have extra flowers that they know there's going to be people who need them same day and you could charge like
3:37Claudia Oshry:3x for delivery literally charge 3x that is a desperate person you're talking to yeah
3:44Kim Kardashian:lish extremely desperate and the funny thing was that ben has started to like not keep shabbat but on saturdays he's been turning his phone off to like be more present and like connect with the lord and i think it's great so valentine's day was on a saturday and he had to use my phone behind my
3:57Benny Blanco:back like not on my phone i'm using my minutes to call the florist watch how he like didn't know his credit card number put it on my credit card probably went into your apple pay thousand percent thousand percent so that's what i get for trying to protect my husband duly noted won't happen again okay well thank you for your honesty though you were dishonest with us yesterday i wasn't dishonest i like wanted to share funny screen but i don't need to lay no i understand i hate this whole like you have to like lay your whole life out online to be an authentic influencer okay i'm not no but it's been 24 hours and i told the truth and she told the truth yeah so that's what
4:31Claudia Oshry:because you also could have continued being dishonest yeah and said no but now i look like a fool oh i don't fucking think so i don't fucking think so not today she's nobody's fool
4:41Benny Blanco:This foolishness ends here. Yeah.
4:44Jackie Oshry:I also went to Target yesterday.
4:45Benny Blanco:Now, I know what I'm going to say. Like, this is not. That it's an amazing, magical place. It was such an amazing, magical place. And it was just really ruined by the fact that I had to pee.
4:53Kim Kardashian:So I was like rushing through it when I really wanted to be leisurely. And it's funny how like Target on a weekday is like a daycare. There were kids everywhere. Like, I guess if you're like a single, not a single, sorry, a stay-at-home mom or you're like home with your kids, like you're just going to go to Target. Yeah. You're going to put them in the cart and you're just going to wheel around for fun. I was like playing with kids I felt weird not having a kid there like I went by myself like for some me time they should do music class they should do music class like they have a Starbucks they need to open like a little gym or yeah one of those gym places um it was so magical like I
5:24Jackie Oshry:loved I haven't gone to Target for convenience these days like if I'm ordering for Target Target online has the best delivery you get same day delivery Target Instacart I know but you pay an
5:34Kim Kardashian:upcharge on Instacart Target website delivery Target Circle you could shop from the store
5:39Benny Blanco:locally and it comes directly you can also like pick up and then get like one of the best spots yeah sometimes i park there when like i'm not picking up and the suit makes okay cuff me up
5:48Kim Kardashian:um wow first she's lying now she's stealing the law oh and i did steal because i went to uh target and i had a card of about a hundred things i spent yeah i spent four hundred dollars i needed so many things and it was self-checkout so i did my best i did my best i didn't realize you've been through that i did my best knowing that like i probably wasn't scanning like each thing maybe correctly and i just thought like that's the tax of making me self-checkout like i had multiple items like i bought like um like 10 onesies like baby onesies because we needed new pajamas and i was getting them all i didn't hear the beep every time and i just thought self-checkout tax i tried yeah like
6:29Claudia Oshry:and that's the price you should be playing me i'm your employee that's the price of them no longer paying cashiers like you're losing it on the self-checkout and at this point like i'm a cashier
6:38Kim Kardashian:i want benefits i want health insurance i want this onesie you're the checkout girl when i was walking out like homes yes i work in the market as a checkout girl when i was walking out like
6:47Benny Blanco:i heard a beat and and i said self-checkout tax and i kept walking nobody stopped me okay i spent 453 dollars like i'm good so target you heard all that um do what needs to be done i'm a big fan but there are improvements to be made. Okay.
7:02Kim Kardashian:And I like how they all have Starbucks. A lot of them have Ultas now. I love that. They should put a daycare or something. Like they would make bank.
7:10Benny Blanco:Yeah. Bank. That's where the mamas like to go. The real mamas. You guys, it was jam-packed with kids.
7:16Kim Kardashian:Like I felt like the only person there who didn't have a kid with me. And I felt weird. Rubel I missed out. No, I felt like inappropriate. Like it's like if I went to like a music class without a kid.
7:26Benny Blanco:Yeah. It's weird.
7:27Kim Kardashian:So it was amazing.
7:28Benny Blanco:I got some great stuff.
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7:30Lil Dicky:Oh, good. I'm so glad. That I paid for, of course. I'm so happy for you. Zach and I took a field trip yesterday. We went to this design show in Palm Beach that's like a really big.
7:38Benny Blanco:Everyone's talking about it here. Everyone's talking about it. Have you been to Kipps Bay? Kipps Bay. I'm like the movie theater. That's what it's called in the city, the Kipps Bay movie theater. Well, the neighborhood is called Kipps Bay. Yeah, but nobody goes there unless they're going to the movie theater. Yeah. Unless you just graduated college. Yeah, yeah. Nobody my age goes to Kipps Bay unless you're going to the movie theater.
7:53Claudia Oshry:Yeah.
7:54Benny Blanco:Or the fairway next door.
7:56Claudia Oshry:And it was so cool. Spritz was a sponsor, so we were just like the bell of the ball. You were kind of like the big wing. Yeah, that's my beverage. Yes. Yeah. Anyone want a sip? Yes. We donated. And we vlogged, so I'm not going to like spoil everything of what we saw, but it was seriously sickening, like really cool, talented stuff. I would find like an event like that upsetting because then like I have to go home to my
8:17Kim Kardashian:house that looks nothing like this fair, fair.
8:19Lil Dicky:Yeah, but the fair thing was like so cool. So it's in a house. All these designers, you have to be like selected. You get a room to design. and everyone does their own thing with it they do their big one of course that's pretty cool they literally put in new toilets if you get a bathroom and then what do they do with that house afterwards they leave it it belongs to the own like the owner who lent his house out he then gets the house who was the owner of the house i don't know but then was it like a mansion yeah and this time it was like two houses it was like a mansion on the intercoastal and across the street a cottage like the guest so cute so cute and every room is so different though so i wonder if like if it's annoying no or it's like maybe there's a couple rooms that they wind up just like taking some stuff down.
8:57Lil Dicky:It's a lot to live with all the time. But yeah, you get like a free, insanely decorated house.
9:02Benny Blanco:And I wonder if that like increases the value of your home. Kind of how like, you know, oh, this home was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. But this home was designed by 20 different designers. It was a part of the big festival.
9:11Claudia Oshry:Yeah.
9:12Lil Dicky:Zach and I were discussing in the vlog, but I just thought that was so cool.
9:15Claudia Oshry:That is really cool. And they also do one in New York and Dallas. Really? Yeah. Like in a New York City apartment or a house? I feel like in an apartment because it's New York City. Yeah. Really cool. Love that. Look at us just like expanding our interest. I haven't done something culturally that wasn't like the children's museum.
9:31Lil Dicky:Yeah. Or like being a housemate. Or going into the aquarium. Right. We do a lot of cultural stuff, but it's always like for kids. Like for all science. Like I haven't done some cultural activity like for just an adult self. And it was very cool. Like, oh, everyone's doing cool stuff. Love that. Cool. I'll have it for you guys.
9:47Kim Kardashian:Well, speaking of culture, you know what else I got at Target? What? And I would love to get your take on this. So Ben has been keeping Shabbat. Great. and he said he wants like a Shabbat book because he gets so bored and a book would happen he like refuses to do a Kindle he thinks it's like not the same so when I was at Target I'm like let me find a book for Ben that I think he would be interested in and in the past when I've tried to get him to read I've gotten memoirs um he did like Rich Paul's memoir um but other than that like it hasn't stuck so I'm like let me go fiction so I was reading like a bunch of covers and I got
10:13Claudia Oshry:him have you read Remarkably Bright Creatures no I haven't okay so I had heard of it I've heard of it too and it like what what no i just can't believe that's what you got for it wait why
10:25Lil Dicky:like first of all it's like you know part of the similar like crawdads of like literary fiction popular yes and i think dana and or rebecca read it and it was not recommended shit okay because
10:37Benny Blanco:if it were marine life on the cover and ben loves marine life and then i was reading the back and it's like a thriller somebody goes missing and then she also works in an aquarium which is ben's It wasn't for me. It wasn't for me.
10:49Lil Dicky:It was for Ben. It's a book that I should have read because it's like, you know, popular book. Good reads. But it did not come recommended to me. In fact, it was not recommended to me.
11:00Kim Kardashian:Okay. But I think that might still make it a candidate for Ben. You and Ben are very different. And I like what you're doing. Yeah, I tried. And, you know, books at Target, it's not Barnes and Noble. I feel like it's like airport books. It's just the pot. Mel Robbins was all over the place. And like a bunch of cookbooks, which I was going to get for Ben. so I was limited like I couldn't find like niche books it was just the Goodreads Hot 100
11:22Claudia Oshry:yeah it's a Goodreads Hot 100 um let me know how it goes I endorse his message he plans on only Saturdays so it'll be like a couple of months before well if he loves it he will read it on
11:34Lil Dicky:Sunday as well yeah and Monday and Tuesday until he finishes it because that's what a good book does if you're really only reading it every Saturday then you don't like it yeah and you
11:43Jackie Oshry:I can't pick up a book and then like days later or weeks later, pick it up again. I have forgotten the entire thing.
11:50Benny Blanco:And it just means I didn't like it.
11:51Lil Dicky:Like really. Yeah. If we're being real.
11:54Claudia Oshry:If we're being honest. Because if I loved it, I can't put it down. Correct. That's the thing about books. I'm about to read.
12:01Kim Kardashian:So I'm hoping that Ben's book will get me to, I haven't read in months. And I did it more so for myself. Like I would love to, we have a TV schedule, you know, tell me like Tuesdays. Yeah. Last night was a light load. Right. Right. So I'm thinking like we are in a heavy schedule with TV and like on the nights now Tuesdays have opened up like on the nights like that.
12:18Benny Blanco:Maybe we could read. And I thought if Ben had a book, maybe I would then pick up my Kindle. That's so cute. And that's really goals like reading in bed with your partner.
12:25Lil Dicky:And then like putting on moisturizer. And then also like you've both read each other's books so you could like talk about them. Right. You know who does that? My friend does that with Sam. Sam and Ben. Yeah. Well, they're both like really smart, smart, but like in a book's way. Like we're all smart. I think Dana and Josh probably do that. Like he recommends a lot of books to her and like sometimes she'll even like make them for the redheads. They like swap books.
12:46Benny Blanco:That's like elite living. That is living on a different planet than the one we're currently on. We just swap. We doom scroll. We just swap reels. We just share memes. No, I want to get to a place where like we're moisturizing and reading. Yeah. In bed. And then like Ben like will take off his glasses. Yes.
13:02Kim Kardashian:It's such a scene, right? His and her sides of the book. They're both behind the sides of the bed. They're both reading. She takes out her cream and moisturizer. She's like rubbing her elbow. and they say like did you know Winston Churchill
13:12Benny Blanco:yada yada like I just want to know things yeah yeah goals yeah we'll get there we'll see
13:18Claudia Oshry:no like that's really okay resolution resolution is you and Ben reading well you're on your way he asked for a book we're halfway there yeah you have to want
13:28Lil Dicky:we're not there actually there was a book I wanted Zach to read and he endeavored to read it over the course of multiple years oh multiple years he didn't like it It was Bad Therapy by Abigail Schreier. I thought it was like really insightful. And he enjoyed what he read over multiple years.
13:46Claudia Oshry:Does he reference it ever? No, but like every time we go somewhere, he brings it.
13:52Kim Kardashian:Oh my God, that's so fucking cute.
13:54Benny Blanco:That's actually better than if he had finished it. Yeah, even when we were dating, he would always like bring a book like if we went on a trip or something. Wow, I deeply relate to Zach in that way because a book is also like an image thing.
14:05Kim Kardashian:It's obviously nourishing the mind, but also having everyone around you know, like, yes, I read.
14:09Lil Dicky:Yeah, but like he would always like want to, he would always bring a book on the trip and it was always the same book because he never actually read it. And now that book is that book for him.
14:20Claudia Oshry:Got it, got it. That's his go-to. His marriage book. Well, the book that he wants to read next. What was the book first? What was the first book? I think it was the one with the orange cover. It was like - The Art of War? No. How to not give a fuck?
14:32Benny Blanco:Like subtly. The Art of Not Giving a Fuck. The subtle art of not giving a fuck. Maybe that one. Something like that. People who don't read own a copy of that book. I know.
14:41Kim Kardashian:Because the funny thing is that. They think that's the one you start with. Yes. Because I've been talking for years with Remy Bader about how I actually think she would love to read it, especially when she became really famous on TikTok. It was very bad for her mental health. And I was like, if you take a couple hours a day off your phone to read, I think it would be really good for you. And you love all the shows and everything. Books are shows. and I've been dying. And she was like, the one book she has, and she's like, okay, I'm going to read it. She's always posting about this book,
15:07Benny Blanco:The Orange Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck.
15:09Claudia Oshry:People think you need to start with that. If you start with it, you will never read it. You're never going to continue. Just start with Colleen Hoover, okay? Colleen Hoover is the gateway book.
15:17Benny Blanco:Yeah, I think Verity is the gateway book. Okay, I think that's a great recommendation.
15:23Jackie Oshry:For me, the gateway book was recommended by you. It happened one summer. When I read that book, I was like,
15:30Kim Kardashian:oh I didn't know that books were like this I didn't know we were reading like rom-com books like yeah and then also um Seven Husbands is a gateway book it's just a little long no but that
15:43Benny Blanco:is really good that's where that's when I read books I'm like oh this is what books are I was
15:47Kim Kardashian:my whole mindset on books was school yeah literature boring we have to like find double meaning and everything is it a pencil or a penis like I was like this sucks I didn't realize like that books were just TV shows and TV shows are books.
16:00Benny Blanco:Yeah, and we could just read for fun.
16:01Lil Dicky:But you know what Margot said once? Margot Mastray? Yeah, like a cute, insightful thing she once said when she talked about when she was the first one in the family reading. She was. She gets credit there.
16:11Benny Blanco:She gets really annoyed when we don't share that.
16:13Kim Kardashian:When we were on tour, she would bring a Kindle and it was such a vibe killer. I'm like, can we go out?
16:18Lil Dicky:Yeah, and when we would go on family vacation, up until I started reading, she would always be in the bath reading. So she read first. By the way, 100%. And she said that she likes reading over TV shows because, like, you know what the character is thinking.
16:33Benny Blanco:That's very insightful. Isn't that cute? It's not cute. I knew what I thought you were going to say, but. I just thought it was cute. No, the cutest thing Margot ever said. Do you know what it is? She wants to be a mom and a cheerleader. Oh, when you would ask her when she was a kid what she wanted to be, she would say a mom and a cheerleader.
16:46Kim Kardashian:No. You're going to remember it, though. Like, we were in L.A. Okay. Okay, so you don't remember.
16:53Benny Blanco:I'm not there. So we like took a sister's trip. Remember we stayed at the Mr.
16:57Kim Kardashian:C hotel and they had the two really small beds and we had to share two small beds. Margot like started crying one day and we were like, what's wrong? Where were we? We were in the hotel room sitting on the tiny bed. Okay. We must've been like getting ready or something. And she started like tearing up, getting upset. And we were like, what's wrong? And she couldn't explain it. And she was like, it just like makes me sad. Like we're not always going to like be doing this. Like I'm literally going to cry. Like talking about it was so sweet. She was like, like, we're not all just like going to be like sisters like this.
17:21Kim Kardashian:Like it was very, very sweet. Oh my God.
17:23Lil Dicky:I don't remember.
17:24Claudia Oshry:I didn't know that that had happened. You don't remember that? I feel like we need to take a sister's trip to LA with her. I was so impacted by it. That's so, you know, it's not really congruous with the way I think she feels about us.
17:39Lil Dicky:So maybe she misses us. It's a cry for help. Maybe she misses us. It is a cry for help. I think we should take a sister's trip to LA and sit up and share Mr. Seabeds.
17:49Benny Blanco:We have to share. Okay, we all have our own room. No, no. We like to share.
17:53Kim Kardashian:I do I love sharing rooms that's my dream like us all being in I know what Margaret was saying like yeah it was such a girly moment we were getting ready for something we were like having we went to like Chaconis for dinner it was like so fat it was like a fabulous trip I don't we don't like
18:05Lil Dicky:do that like we don't know no and she's right because we used to be like a unit a unit we used to do every like every Saturday night it's like what are we doing like we're going out with our friends but we're all going like we're just like one group every day like we were always going on trips and this and dinner and this and that and it's obviously not like that anymore yeah and so
18:22Kim Kardashian:She was kind of like speaking truth about what the future would hold.
18:25Benny Blanco:Yeah. Like everybody went on and like grew up and did their own things and made new friends and got married. Like it was very. It was mostly just like married with kids. Because it's not like we like made new friends and ditched our sisters.
18:33Lil Dicky:Yeah.
18:34Claudia Oshry:We're always like.
18:35Benny Blanco:Life is different now. Life is different now. It was very sweet. And we were. That was like really when we were the Steens. She literally said it's not always going to be like Steeny vibes. It was really sweet. I mean it's. It isn't always. I wonder if she like. Am I making this up?
18:49Claudia Oshry:No. I think for the second day tomorrow we have to call Sachi. Okay. But like tell her we're recording. I will, of course. And also like I feel like it's a little personal.
18:58Lil Dicky:So she might like say she never said it. But like know that she did. Just like Olivia and Brian. But know that she did. Hi. Are you on the toilet?
19:06Kim Kardashian:Okay. I won't show you, but we are recording. And I wanted to ask you if you remembered something or if I'm making this up. Because you know I do sometimes. I make up memories.
19:14Lil Dicky:Hey, Sachi.
19:15Kim Kardashian:Do you remember when we took a sister's trip to L.A. And we stayed at the Mr. C Hotel? Of course. and you said yeah and you said the cutest thing ever okay I probably don't remember that but what
19:29Jackie Oshry:like we were all like sitting in the room like getting ready or something and you were like you got upset and we were like what's wrong you like couldn't explain what was wrong and you basically were just like it's never it's like not always going to be like this like steany vibes the four of us like oh I do remember saying that okay good I just wanted to make sure I wasn't making it up
19:45Sofia Franklyn:Oh, I was ahead of my time there, yeah.
19:47Benny Blanco:Because you were right.
19:49Sofia Franklyn:I'm sorry. Hell yeah.
19:50Benny Blanco:Thank you. And she wants to go to L.A. Oh, do you want us to plan a trip, the four of us, and we could stay at the Mr. C Hotel and stay in tiny beds again?
19:56Sofia Franklyn:I think now at this point there are always we can do better than Mr. C, but yeah, I would love to. Okay.
20:01Benny Blanco:Enjoy your poop. She would love to. You would want to do that? You would want to do that?
20:05Sofia Franklyn:I'd love to do that.
20:07Benny Blanco:Do you miss us?
20:08Sofia Franklyn:Of course, and I will see you Friday.
20:10Benny Blanco:Yay. Yay, love you. Love you, bye. Maybe we do like a staycation.
20:14Lil Dicky:Maybe for her birthday we plan a trip to LA.
20:20Benny Blanco:That's really cute. She's so cute. That's actually just when you think she's going to zig. It's so true. She zags. She zags back to her sisters. We are like the best. Who wouldn't zag to us? Like we're the best. I know that's how we feel. There aren't two more charitable. Everyone's using our sound. Monica Lewinsky. Team USA. Team USA but Monica Lewinsky. Monica Lewinsky and Dylan Mulvaney. like when I say we have range that's what I'm fucking talking about everyone's using this
20:49Claudia Oshry:in the same day the men's hockey team it was men's and women's oh right men's and women's and that was the official team USA they had all the men's and women's hockey team together and then they said we are two of the most fabulous whatever I don't even know I just want to say it was a social media manager she ate with that because it was like two teams so we are two of the most yeah crush it I don't even know the sound we are two of the funniest
21:12Kim Kardashian:generous charitable people And I know us like offline.
21:15Lil Dicky:And then Dylan Mulvaney.
21:16Kim Kardashian:The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind.
21:20Benny Blanco:To this day. What were Dylan and Monica up to?
21:23Jackie Oshry:I think Dylan's on Broadway and Monica went to see the show. And then, you know, you go backstage, you make TikToks. And you create content. Oh, you know what? That just reminds me. I saw a video of Daniel Radcliffe. You know, he's on Broadway as well. Don't you feel like everyone's on Broadway?
21:35Kim Kardashian:Yeah. Like Jake Shane is on Broadway? Jake Shane. Whitney Lee Ovid. And Daniel Radcliffe's like, of course, in like a critically acclaimed. And, you know, part of it being a Broadway actress. And I just want to say, I never want to be on Broadway, please. Unless it's the role, like we're making a full reprisal of Hairspray. Do not come. Do not come knocking on my door. It looks like the worst job ever. You make no money and it is so fucking hard. And then when the show is over, you have to do the back door. So you leave the stage door. You can't just like finish a hard day of work, get in the car and go home.
22:00Kim Kardashian:You have to go out, sign playbills, take pictures. And so many videos I'm always seeing like, oh my God, you know, Jesse was so nice. And Whitney was so mean. Like, you know, they say like Daniel Radcliffe, like literally put on his puffer coat. It was like the blizzard.
22:14Jackie Oshry:ran out people didn't even see him because he put his hood on and he just thought he was like a staff member who worked there and the comments were like oh my god like you didn't come to the stage why you hate your fans oh my god i could never the fact that broadway actors and actresses have to do a whole performance after like after doing that have to go outside and take a picture with
22:29Kim Kardashian:every single person and sign everything single playbill or else you're like not like or else you hate your fans oh my god i hate that shit i could never yeah that sounds like just to stand outside everyone's filming you you're exhausted and if you don't do it exactly right because the broadway
22:43Jackie Oshry:folk like they take that backdoor stage thing like so seriously um and i forget who it was that like didn't do it like oh the person who hates his fans the most ben platt ben platt was like i'm not
22:56Benny Blanco:doing it like he literally like was like he walked out it was like waving and i just want to say i respected that yeah that's i don't take issue with that no me neither the fact that like so
23:03Kim Kardashian:many Broadway people like they just they just do it like you have to yeah when I'm sure all you
23:08Benny Blanco:want to do is go to sleep yeah no I don't know Radcliffe said not today I won't use that again spend no me neither yeah of course court adjourned um let's get into the stories right because that's
23:22Claudia Oshry:the job we're here to do much like those Broadway actors right and we love the back door okay we love the back door title you actually you said like i just wouldn't go to sleep you would love it remember when we used to do jizno i would that was seriously i actually
23:42Benny Blanco:fuck ben platt because that was the high of a lifetime it's so true when we did jizno and like
23:48Kim Kardashian:certain venues like the beacon when literally they put up barricades there were so many toasters like want to take a picture of us seriously it's a drug i can't understand and i want you guys to know like we knew that people were outside so we had like a whole presentation like we told everyone to get in the car like take our stuff we can't be carrying like bags i said take my jacket like i wanted to be and had like a red solo cup because i see like cool people like drinking and we were going to our after party and i walked out and i was like surprised i was like oh you guys for me for me i was like oh that's so sweet let me yeah i can take some pictures like oh autograph yeah you have a sharpie we when i tell you it was like that's how people like die from fame addiction Like, I understand how you then become addicted to heroin.
24:25Kim Kardashian:Like, because there is no high quite like that. The fact that we didn't become drug addicts after that is insane.
24:30Lil Dicky:A hundred percent. And I have no sympathy now for Daniel. I agree. Except for like a blizzard.
24:35Claudia Oshry:But like, seriously, that moment of adoration, like it's. Addicting. Yeah.
24:40Benny Blanco:I feel like it would actually make you want to get up and go to work. That's what you do it for. It looks fabulous. It looks alluring. And I could tell you as somebody who's done it, it feels more than that.
24:49Claudia Oshry:Like. Yeah. So when you see people like getting paparazzi, like leaving, like Kimmel or whatever and there's like like when there's two barricades and it's civilized you're not being
24:56Kim Kardashian:like in when i see those episodes of kardashians where they go to like different countries and people like storm their car that is horrible i'm talking about barricades where they have
25:04Benny Blanco:police officers yeah that look and you're just like walking like yeah no one's touching you
25:09Kim Kardashian:you're just getting photographed and you like look the way you want to look yeah we need to
25:14Jackie Oshry:get paparazzi more we should just like hire someone to follow us around yeah we should have
25:16Benny Blanco:like we need paparazzi at those when we did that you know absolutely call paparazzi um for the next time. We should do a Gizno soon. Like we're both sort of like free to do it.
25:26Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. A couple months. Give me a couple of months. Yep.
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29:58Benny Blanco:I'm sorry. I have to tell you something. Thank you, Tert-Macion. I tried to write this in the family chat, but like there was a lot going on and nobody answered me.
30:05Jackie Oshry:So I remember like two, three weeks ago when it was a Monday. It was a Monday after the Super Bowl and I wasn't on the show.
30:11Kim Kardashian:So I had to take root of the emergency room. He's totally fine. I didn't want to talk about it then because I was like scared, but he's completely fine. And I got a bill. I got a bill like a couple of days later, of course, you know, they don't miss a beat. And it was$3 ,000. And, you know, I've heard forever. Like it's, you know, I'm Erica and I read the fine print so you don't have to. And they always say, like, if you call the hospital and ask them for an itemized bill, they will send you one that's almost always like half less. They overcharge people because people don't ask for itemized bills.
30:38Kim Kardashian:You get charged for things that you don't do. And I've never done it before. And I was like, sure. Like, I don't want to pay this bill right now. So I called. The lady was so lovely. She said, yes, you will receive it in about 10 days. I got it yesterday. Less? So the original bill, let me just get you the exact amounts, okay? Okay.
30:53Jackie Oshry:The original bill was$3 ,376. And the bill that I got yesterday was$8 ,446.
31:06Benny Blanco:So whoever started that fucking lie on the internet that you should call for an itemized bill, fuck you, okay? Oh, my God. You know what I'm dealing with right now?
31:14Lil Dicky:And that's what I get for, like, muchkering. You know what I'm dealing with right now? What? When I gave birth and then I'm checking out of the hospital, they're like, Like we'll mail you a bill. I was like no I want to pay it now. Because if you mail me a bill. I'm never going to. I don't. What about insurance? They already did my insurance. Like whatever. You can pay when you leave.
31:32Jackie Oshry:Like a hotel.
31:32Claudia Oshry:Yeah.
31:33Lil Dicky:And I literally am wearing a diaper. Carrying a baby. And I'm like here. Charge me. I don't want a fucking bill. I'm not going to pay it. I don't look at my mail. Right. And I can't get my bill. Yeah yeah yeah. But I want to pay this. Yep. That's very magnanimous of you. Bleeding. Postpartum. Day after I gave birth. I paid my bill. so that they would leave me the fuck alone. They call me every day with a charge. What? Every day I have a missed call, but I don't get it because I have my screen calls on and I don't have their numbers. I never even see it. That I have an outstanding balance. I'm now getting mail from the hospital that I owe them money.
32:06Lil Dicky:They undercharged you? No. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. But like I, what happened in between when I left right now, unless like my insurance didn't cover as much as they thought it would. Sounds like a you guys. Agreed. Agreed. Sounds like a you problem because I spent a couple grand on my way out the door. I'm done. That's big of you. Like what?
32:26Benny Blanco:Yeah. My hospital bill for Ruby was just about$1 ,000, which I was shocked by. That's really, these people on their bills, they're crazy.
32:33Claudia Oshry:No, that's why I did the itemized thing because like it's kind of like fake. You know, they just make up prices. No, they just make up prices. We had to go to the hospital over the summer one time. And so I've been just getting bills from that, which I paid.
32:46Lil Dicky:And then another bill.
32:47Benny Blanco:like yeah at 45 what yeah right so that's just something i'm dealing with and thanks to that
32:54Claudia Oshry:girl on tiktok who started the fake rumor i know this isn't going to be like a new statement or anything but like the health care system is broken i mean i watch a pit so i know how broken it really is like it's really broken like i paid my bill like what are you calling me about no i didn't do any new work i can't believe you paid your bill like i know but that's how much i know myself where it's like if something comes in the mail like that's so funny because like that wasn't even an option for me like the bill i was like who wants my card the bill just comes like later
33:24Benny Blanco:no that's crazy i don't roll like that no i didn't even there wasn't like a desk with a credit card machine like i don't even know where i would have done that on checkout there wasn't a checkout they
33:34Kim Kardashian:just gave me papers and they were like someone your credit card she went shopping on the real
33:39Claudia Oshry:real and now i'm getting like my bill yeah that's funny um okay let's get into the stories because We still haven't done that yet. Oh, my God. Sorry, I just saw the clock. Sorry. Our first story are kind of two of our favorite categories of news. Podcast drama and memoir news. You guys, I was not prepared for this cover.
34:00Kim Kardashian:She released something. Sorry. Can I tell the story? I am so not well.
34:03Lil Dicky:Maybe I should say who she is. Sophia Franklin is writing a memoir about the Call Her Daddy fallout. So Sophia Franklin, the co-creator of Call Her Daddy, announced this morning that she is writing her memoirs specifically about what happened in 2020 with her podcast Call Her Daddy that she started with Alex Cooper and the fallout from that. That memoir is called Daddy Issues. And the cover, as Claudia was just about to say, was not what she expected.
34:29Kim Kardashian:I mean, it's a picture of Sophia and Alex, like probably from 2018, like an early picture of their friendship. And Alex's face is like crossed out. It's like cut out. it's giving that scene in Mean Girls this girl can't be trusted she is a ugly slut like the cover is insane the title is Daddy Issues which you know we love to criticize a memoir title I think it's a great title it seems like Sophia has not really leaned into like the daddy branding because when she launched her first podcast after leaving Call Her Daddy or like being booted whatever I think a lot of people thought she was gonna do something daddy like as well whether it's like single father or whatever and she totally like didn't lean into the branding at all which i do think was a mistake um and so now it feels like she's going like full force with it i feel like she's going to put in her instagram bio co-creator of the call her daddy podcast like because now i went on the website her bio it says sophia franklin lives based in new york city and is a co-creator of the call her daddy podcast like now she's like taking credit yeah where up until recently like she wouldn't
35:32Lil Dicky:have yeah um the way you describe the cover so i think that the the format of it is like looks feels a little funny but like it does feel like Mean Girls Burn book and when I see this book I'm like I feel like this will be turned into a show like yeah because we should sell the rights she should sell the rights this would be like such a great show and this would be like the piece of material that they need to go out and make a show and the funny thing is that
35:58Jackie Oshry:while it was like the biggest story ever and Alex made that one YouTube video after that the girls never talked about it. Like when Alex has ever been like interviewed or like even alluded to it, she like has a boundary up where she won't talk about it. So actually I believe that a lot went on behind the scenes that people still don't really know about. I think there's like actually a lot of meat
36:18Kim Kardashian:for both girls to talk about. It seems as though Alex is, that's like a no-go for her. Like it's sort of buried and she's moved on and won't be going there. But I think it's very hard for Sophia to take that same route because like she's sort of the injured party.
36:32Benny Blanco:Yeah, Sophia like talked about it in podcasts and stuff.
36:34Lil Dicky:Like she goes on other, she's been on this show. She goes on other shows. And like, we'll talk about, especially when like the$60 million Spotify deal happened. But it seems like from the description of this book that there's a lot more that happened. And I think by the time Sophia was ready to tell her story, like people had moved on. And it's like hard to just like start screaming and be like, wait, what about me? And people would be like, you're still talking about that? Right. And so I think she's talked about it a little bit, but that there is more. And I think this book is also about like her healing journey.
37:02Lil Dicky:And I think we're going to like read more about like why she like there was months before she even put out her first video. Like I think she was like paralyzed.
37:10Benny Blanco:Yeah.
37:10Kim Kardashian:I think she went from like first of all they had such quick success. Like they were the number one show in the world like above Joe Rogan. And it hadn't even been a year yet. So to go from being like an unknown person to that level I think is traumatizing. Like nobody can handle that. And then overnight like you're the devil. Your man is the devil. Like an entire barstool. Everyone like coming for you making merch about you making fun of your looks making fun of your family. Like she got it so bad that she's really. So a lot of people were like, make a video, make a podcast, do something. She didn't come out with Sophia with an F for like months.
37:43Kim Kardashian:I agree.
37:43Jackie Oshry:I think like she was probably, and I'm sure she'll talk about this, like really in a bad spot mentally.
37:49Lil Dicky:Yeah. I think that that is what a lot of this book is going to be about. It says the memoir will delve not only into her time on Call Her Daddy, so probably like the rise too, which is also just interesting.
37:59Kim Kardashian:Very interesting.
38:00Lil Dicky:If you ever go back and watch their vlogs.
38:01Kim Kardashian:Oh my God. They were crazy. They were so crazy. They were so funny. They were magnetic. Like it's, it's no shock that they were as successful as they were as quickly as they were because they were magic together. They were just crazy fucking bitches, like living in New York, doing what, whatever they
38:18Claudia Oshry:wanted. Like it was insane.
38:19Lil Dicky:So she said, but it will also talk about the emotional and physical result of her fallout with Cooper, feelings of betrayal and learning how to reinvent herself. She said the decision to write the book was one I came to on my own. Six years ago, I was reeling from an experience I didn't understand. I needed to grow up and be free of ego as much as humanly possible. She said for her, losing Call Her Daddy also meant the loss of her friendship with Alex. Everything that we had been working toward and planning for the last year, half a year to year, was suddenly not the plan anymore. And Alex thought we just needed to stay with this company and do what Dave was saying.
38:51Lil Dicky:I found out later that Alex and Dave 1 ,000 % had this relationship that I was not aware of and not a part of. I thought Alex was my best friend, sister, and we were not hiding anything. There's no way in hell I would speak to our boss without you. That would be fucking crazy. And I don't think that went both ways. That's what Sophia had said in 2023 to Rolling Stone. But then I think the impetus for this book, at least in the video that Sophia posted yesterday, is the documentary. So Alex had her documentary on Hulu. It came out last year. Call me Alex. Call her Alex. And they talk about the inception of the show and the falling out a bit.
39:26Lil Dicky:Briefly. And I think that the way that now the story is told, Sophia's now like, hold my beer. Well, I think it's been very convenient for Alex
39:39Kim Kardashian:to repackage how the story went
39:41Jackie Oshry:because Sophia hasn't spoken about it. So she thought maybe she was safe to put her own spin on it. Enough time has passed. Sophia's moved on, started her own show.
39:49Kim Kardashian:We're not going back there anymore. So when it came time to have an official retelling, she could have like, you know.
39:55Lil Dicky:I think she just probably glazes over, you know, just like we wanted this. We were getting paid this. We were the biggest show in the world. Dave is in the documentary saying that they were paying a lot of the salaries at Barstool. They were locked into a three-year contract and two years into that deal, they became the number one podcast listened to by women and they deserved more money. And they did. Yeah, they did. And he made them a deal that Alex said like we couldn't refuse. And if I do it for one more year, we get the IP. And she thought that was a great deal.
40:21Claudia Oshry:And Sophia didn't want to take that deal. No.
40:24Kim Kardashian:Or they didn't tell Sophia about the deal.
40:25Lil Dicky:No. Sophia didn't want to take that deal. From what I remember, and this is just my memory, they were each offered half a million, 500 ,000. They were making$60 ,000. Like$70 ,000 plus bonuses. Merch. Merch. So all in all, I think they were making like$100 ,000 or$200 ,000 a year when -
40:41Benny Blanco:They had the number one podcast in the world. Which is insane. Because like Joe Rogan makes like$30 million a year. No.
40:46Lil Dicky:And the math was coming out that like their episodes were generating a million dollars
40:51Claudia Oshry:for the business. Yeah, they got like a million downloads an episode. Yeah. That's fucking crazy. Or maybe they were generating$100 ,000 per episode. Something insane. Yeah.
41:02Lil Dicky:More than their yearly salary in one episode. Yeah. So then the deal that we had heard was that they were each offered$500 ,000 to continue the show for one more year at Barstool.
41:13Claudia Oshry:And then they would have their IP. A little piece of merch, right? Like a percentage of their merch sales. Like little things. But the base salary was$500 ,000. And Sophia said that wasn't enough.
41:20Lil Dicky:Sophia said that wasn't a good deal. And then Alex said, met with Dave, met with Dave and said, I'll take that deal. And she got Sophia's five hundred thousand.
41:28Claudia Oshry:Oh, so she got a million. Yeah. She got a million for that year. Oh, that's kind of crazy. I didn't know that. Yeah.
41:32Lil Dicky:Yeah. That's how I remember it.
41:33Claudia Oshry:And if I'm wrong, just let me know. Yeah. That was such a crazy time. And then she did it for one year. And then she got the show. And then the next year she got 60 million from Spotify. Right. And Spotify.
41:42Benny Blanco:And I'm sure Sophia will talk about this.
41:44Jackie Oshry:The Spotify deal. Was 60 million dollars like for Alex to continue exclusively releasing on Spotify, but also for the back catalog. So all the episodes
41:53Kim Kardashian:that Alex did with Sophia that were extremely valuable, like the MILF Hunter, right? MILF Hunter! Where's MILF Hunter? I don't know. They had a lot of sagas, like famous episodes, like how people go back and watch. Yeah, right. Things people would go back and watch. So they were really paying for the inventory as well. The$60 million was for future episodes, but also past, like the archive. And I think that's where Sophia was really felt robbed, where it's like, well, okay, you're selling her voice, like her actual voice. Her work. Her stories, this time she got arrested, the time she accidentally did meth, like that got sold to Spotify and she didn't make any money from that like that's really crazy yeah so I'm set for this book and I want Alex's side too Alex is like you know I get it because like it's murky and Alex is so moved on and I do feel like the success of call her daddy now is all Alex like she like you cannot and I think that that's really something like she's probably insecure about not people being like you took the success of two people and made it all your own you can't deny that like how far alex has come is all alex yeah like she is a marketing she knows what the fuck she's doing so i think she's hesitant to go back there because she doesn't want it to undercut her current success which is fair but i do think the early days and like the whole saga like i don't think people know like how wronged sophia was yeah they thought she
43:11Lil Dicky:was just like being greedy and like letting her man you know write the terms and like that he wanted their podcast I think he was just like trying to lend his business sense to her because they had something that they didn't know what to do with right they were so underpaid it's a joke
43:27Benny Blanco:and even 500 ,000 is like it's not enough it's not like one percent of what they make if they had
43:33Kim Kardashian:been a unit and like continue to negotiate either with Dave or left and they didn't have the IP but they could have started another podcast at that height like there were options for them outside of it but it seemed like there was things going on between them in their friendship that like
43:47Benny Blanco:Alex didn't want to be with Sophia anymore and it seems like that Sophia didn't know about it
43:52Lil Dicky:yes like that one person's like this friendship doesn't serve me this is toxic and you know we're not because Alex said in her documentary like it's a situation where what it seems on the internet is not what it said was like in real life I feel like Sophia thought they were best friends yeah
44:05Kim Kardashian:Yeah, like roommate sisters, lovers for life. Yeah. Yeah. So I would, I don't know if this will encourage Alex to speak up. I feel like Alex is never going to go there. Like that's a hard stop for her.
44:14Benny Blanco:And I'm sure she like felt like she covered it in her documentary. Box checked, we're good. That's that on that. Yeah. And when she went back to the Barstool office, they were like, do you talk to Sophia?
44:21Kim Kardashian:I think that like she thought she was really opening up a lot there and like she covered her bases. But I would, I would really love to hear like a rebuttal.
44:29Lil Dicky:And I feel like we have heard Alex, like even when she put out that video, when it all went down and then she was like you know telling us like see you guys see fuckers Wednesday um she shared her side in the roof and everything yeah the roof um so it's really like Sophia's side that hasn't been heard and I don't really think Alex will respond to it but I think maybe Sophia's sharing her side will show people things that they didn't think and at the time they thought she was just being like a stupid girl being like used by her boyfriend right and I don't think that's what happened i don't think so either and like yeah it was like kind of like a tragedy it's
45:05Benny Blanco:a tragedy her and her man like her man being like oh i wish i never helped these two bitches like
45:09Kim Kardashian:he was like his life was ruined he was a very successful executive at hbo so he like worked in media he knew the scene he knew that like his girlfriend was getting robbed by this company so he was like yeah sure let me help you and your friend the friend ends up like cutting a deal dave decides like not only is sofia my enemy now but her man is and was selling merch about him he ended up losing his job like years later. I don't think it had to do with this, but like kind of like a very sad story. Yeah. For him. Like,
45:37Benny Blanco:yeah, but I think he's happy now.
45:38Claudia Oshry:I think he's married and they like broke up. Yeah, they broke up. I mean, I don't really know how a relationship can like, and it's just like,
45:43Kim Kardashian:but they did stay together for a while after. I'm curious if she'll talk about him in the book. She has to, I know, but I think she's like, I don't actually don't know this. Like I just have a feeling like maybe she feels like I dragged him into this
45:54Benny Blanco:like media storm once before. Like, let me let the man have peace. But if it's for justice, maybe we can let the man have justice.
46:01Lil Dicky:Yeah, I don't know. You know? Yeah. I think she has to bring it. Otherwise, he stays like, he really can't get worse for him. Yeah. For suit man.
46:09Benny Blanco:The book doesn't come out till November. So like, okay, talk to you then.
46:12Lil Dicky:Yeah, talk to you then. That's a really long time. That's unfortunate. You can buy it on Saturday for Ben. It could be his Saturday book. I think he will like it. I think he would like it too. Oh, and title name, what do we rate it? It's very good. It is very good.
46:24Benny Blanco:Now, it's not memoirs of a daddy.
46:26Jackie Oshry:but I also think she talks about her upbringing I believe she was raised by a single mom so there's also like daddy issues of course call her daddy but then also your father I think I think don't
46:35Claudia Oshry:quote me on but I also want to say like if this were bought like the name of a show daddy issues
46:41Benny Blanco:it's a slay yeah no I think it has real potential I imagine part of her motivation for writing a
46:48Jackie Oshry:book was having it be optioned because that's like a thing now you write a book and before it
46:52Kim Kardashian:even comes out somebody buys the rights to it because we're like big into book adaptations and i'm sure when the idea was floated to her um that was like a huge part of it somebody should buy the
47:01Lil Dicky:rights before it even comes out like this will be a great show yeah period because it's an insane story it's an insane story i can't believe it hasn't been like fictionalized so true like the
47:12Claudia Oshry:roof scene and uh it ends with us the roof scene and daddy during covid but they went to get got together on a roof during COVID. Are you guys not mad about that? I'm cracking up. I didn't even realize it was a roof in COVID. That's so funny. It was a roof in
47:24Lil Dicky:COVID and it was three strangers who were like sheltering. Two I thought. Was just Alex at the meeting or Alex and Sophia? Alex and Sophia and Dave. It's hilarious that they had it on the roof. They were all quarantined in different places and they got together from three different places. Called the COVID police. I think we need some retroactive cancellation. Agreed. Down. It's only right. Only fair. It's only fair. Are you ready for our next story which is some more podcast news oh my god yeah Lil Dicky and Benny Blanco have a nude podcast yeah and it's that it's um
47:56Benny Blanco:there was a video like going viral of Benny Blanco like farting into his microphone and his feet up on the couch his bare feet yeah the thing is what I love about this industry is
48:06Jackie Oshry:like the cream's gonna rise right I don't foresee this being the next Joe Rogan call her daddy Theovan um
48:18Kim Kardashian:and I know you know a running joke is like don't give men podcast mics or they should make podcast equipment more expensive oh yeah I've seen I see a lot anytime like there's
48:25Benny Blanco:a stupid podcast that people comment like tariff podcast equipment it's like funny but I actually
48:30Kim Kardashian:like that it's such like an a low lift accessible medium because like anyone can do it that means anyone can be successful at it so it's really talent based right so these are two people with you know, unlimited money for clips, editors, set building, audio engineers. And at the end of the day, if it sucks, it sucks. No matter how much money or status you have. And I love that. Like, I love to see successful people fail. So I'm excited.
48:53Claudia Oshry:You know what's so interesting about this?
48:56Lil Dicky:Also, Lil's wife is a co-host, the third co-host, Kristen. Does Selena, like, make an appearance? I'm sure that she will. But their podcast, and it's called Friends Keep Secrets, it's produced in partnership with Jay Shetty's podcast. Oh. And now that I'm thinking about it, remember when Selena and Benny went on Jay Shetty's podcast? It was like really great for Benny. And like, I forgot that that's where I landed with Benny. Like, oh, this is like very cogent, like emotionally intelligent and romantic. Because then I just saw like this Fartapalooza. Yeah.
49:24Claudia Oshry:But going back before Fartapalooza, like, oh, he actually should have a podcast. Right. He seemed like very smart and had nice things to say. I forgot. That was like, I guess, a very fleeting feeling that I had when I saw it.
49:35Kim Kardashian:It's funny that he went into business with Jay Shetty. It must have been like really overwhelmingly a positive thing for him.
49:41Benny Blanco:Yeah.
49:41Claudia Oshry:But it's like, doesn't he produce every major song? This is just a hobby. This is not a money making venture. Benny Blanco is just fine. Yet. But it's like, this is a very time consuming hobby. Like, why does everyone want to do this? People don't think it's time consuming.
49:55Benny Blanco:That's why.
49:55Kim Kardashian:But I guess if you have like unlimited resources and you don't need to book your own guests, edit your own episodes, make your own clips, like have any part in it other than sitting down for 60 minutes. most people who start podcasts are very involved in no matter how many resources they have are very involved in the strategy of the podcast but if like if someone's producing it for you you literally just show up once a week for an hour fine like that's I think what Amy Poehler does you know like she has a great team around her yeah but I could also see why for Amy Poehler
50:22Lil Dicky:like starting a podcast is the next logical step in her career do you know what I mean like no
50:27Benny Blanco:actually if I was Amy Poehler like I wouldn't have done a podcast but that's why I'm wrong what would you do like more shows and movies well first of all I don't think she needs to do anything i think like there are a couple of things that i don't know this is the devil's work of
50:38Kim Kardashian:course i'm talking about financial right so like now it's like what are you interested in um
50:43Benny Blanco:i don't know i i when she started a podcast i was like okay like kind of like corny you know no but a comedian starting a podcast like yeah makes sense yeah like you have stuff to say in your but i don't think of her so much as a comedian i think of her more as like tina
50:55Kim Kardashian:fay right now comedy yeah but like they're writers yeah they do comedy but like they're writers they're producers they create like yeah they're more like bts so if amy if tina faye started a podcast today i'd be like okay yeah i don't know it didn't seem like an obvious choice for me um
51:11Benny Blanco:i feel like tina faye is about to start a podcast oh really it would it would seem like she's just
51:15Lil Dicky:copying tina it's like not her because i remember when she said she hates when like celebrities like have work outside of their acting thing yeah yeah that's kind of mean but it's like yeah it was
51:25Claudia Oshry:mean but it's like oh i'm not talking about you you or you yeah right like meanwhile um once upon a farm just like got acquired or went public or something for like like over a billion dollars
51:36Benny Blanco:right not enough not enough it's not enough money give them more money i agree like what a sleigh yeah and actually when i was at target yesterday i was in like the baby section all the pouches were like out on the shelf not fridge not refrigerated yes i mean i now i'm used to just refrigerated because once i've got a farm i think that's really crazy yeah it's crazy to
51:56Claudia Oshry:think about shelf stable like would you eat a piece of fruit that was sitting on well dried fruit
52:02Lil Dicky:would sit on the shelf oh so there are ways of like i mean it's not like there's nothing wrong with it yeah but like fresh fresh is best fresh is best are you ready for our next story a little fresh news kim kardashian is joining energy drink brand update as a co-founder so kim kardashian has taken a new brand under her entrepreneurial belt she is now the co-founder of the parazan Thine powered energy drink brand Update founded in 2022 by Daniel Solomon's so Update is an energy drink that does not Have caffeine does not have alcohol And it's an energy drink
52:37Kim Kardashian:I'm so fatigued by this Like update I know that Kim is like constantly Working
52:44Jackie Oshry:That's like her thing right Meanwhile like Skims is like enough To pay the bills and then some like she's a billionaire Many times over because of Skims Um Like, okay, like I'm just like, I'm fatigued by this.
52:57Benny Blanco:Like I got it with Kylie too. When Kylie did Sprinter, which was just so inauthentic.
53:00Lil Dicky:But to me, this tells me, this seems to tell me that Sprinter is a success. This looks like Sprinter. It feels like Sprinter. Now Kim wants a Sprinter. I've never seen anyone drinking a Sprinter. No, me neither. But that's like, look, the cans look the same. Yes, they do. So it makes me feel like, oh, being in the beverage industry is a success for the girls. 8182. Yes. because what is what does this do is she so she had an update once and she said oh my gosh i have
53:28Claudia Oshry:to get involved although i heard something about 818 from somebody really in the know
53:33Jackie Oshry:um but they had gotten like an acquisition offer for like under a billion dollars i think it was like 750 million and they didn't take it because like you know the kardashians are obsessed with the billion um and that was the number that they were going for and now the value like and that was at the peak of the company it's kind of like on not on its way down but it has stabilized um And so I actually don't think like all in all that was a good decision.
53:55Benny Blanco:That's crazy. I feel like there has to be more to that story.
53:58Claudia Oshry:Well, it's just what I heard. From someone like in the know. Update.
54:04Lil Dicky:Yeah, update. Like, okay. She said she first discovered update three years ago. She said immediately aligned with how I think about wellness and energy.
54:11Kim Kardashian:Yeah, I saw this video she put out and like my eyes just rolled so far to the back of my head. I'm sure it's a good brand. Like she does that rigorously. yes and energy energy drinks are so bad for you but for a lot of people they're so necessary so i feel like a lot of art and you know a lot it's a trend now like you know better energy i feel like we have a lot of like neuro gum and mints one of our sponsors like it's a very trendy thing now to try and find like caffeine alternatives beverage sugary drinks alternatives so she's on the on trend i'm sure it's good but it's just like an eye roll it's like enough i'm
54:41Lil Dicky:a little influence she said i'm someone who moves at a really intense pace but still prioritizes focus, balance, and what I put in my body. Same for me, I would say. The energy category can feel loud. An update offers something different, a more intentional approach designed for sustaining energy. It became part of my routine very naturally.
54:57Benny Blanco:Yeah, I mean, I think it's, you know, you look at the success of like Celsius, literally the biggest brand. And Celsius is so good. It's crap, like the stuff inside of it. Not as crappy as the other one. Red Bull, no, Celsius was like a better alternative to Red Bull. So we're all trending upward, right? And so this is just a very on trend. I need to see a picture of Daniel Solomon's. Yeah, I was saying the same thing. A nice Jewish man for... For Khloe. Yeah, or for Kim.
55:20Kim Kardashian:Yeah.
55:21Claudia Oshry:Oh, who's she dating? Lewis Hamilton. Oh, yeah. She's not interested in Daniel Solomon's. But for Khloe, I love it. He's so cute. He's so cute. Like a little nerdy. Yeah. Should he be Businessman of the Week? But he hasn't done anything yet.
55:36Lil Dicky:He roped Kim into being a part of this brand. I'm sorry.
55:39Kim Kardashian:You don't go from the CEO of Hermes and MGM Grant to like some Miranda. I need to know more about like his personal. If Daniel Solomons comes across our desk one more time in an organic way, then he could be BMOTW. Let me like look. I'm not willing to give up on Axel Dumois yet. I'm still waiting for my work.
55:54Benny Blanco:Maybe look at his ex account. Like does he, has he been to a Kelly Clarkson concert recently? Like what's he up to in his personal life?
55:59Kim Kardashian:If Daniel Solomons has been to a Kelly Clarkson concert, then yes, he could be businessman of the week.
56:05Lil Dicky:I have to look at his LinkedIn. He's going to see I looked.
56:08Kim Kardashian:Why don't you research him while I let everyone know about today's sponsor,
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59:02Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Tadurka Honey. You're welcome, Tadurka. Our next Story, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 17 nominees for 2026. I know that we like never like know who they are. So, well, we know some of them. Okay. Should I start with the ones we know or just go in order of this list? In order. The Black Crows. I've heard of them.
59:23Benny Blanco:Jeff Buckley. Oh my God. He wrote Hallelujah. My favorite song. Mariah Carey. Okay. Rock and Roll Queen. Phil Collins. My God. We were just talking about him. Melissa Etheridge. Oh, lesbian queen. Lauryn Hill. queen oh my favorite movie okay not knowing everyone first of all billy idol not billy joel and not billy armstrong right not american idiot okay not billy crystal yeah right
59:50Claudia Oshry:not any of the billies that we know the idol one okay in six i-n-x-s in six i'm gonna say oh in six okay i don't know them iron maiden i used to have a shirt oh yeah of course the shirt Yeah. Joy Division slash New Order. Love the music. New Edition.
1:00:09Lil Dicky:That sounds familiar.
1:00:10Claudia Oshry:No, it doesn't. Oasis. Tell Ben. Oasis. They sing.
1:00:17Benny Blanco:Wonderwall. Anyway, here's Wonderwall. Anyway, here's Wonderwall. Pink. Oh, my God. Wait. Is there going to be there?
1:00:23Kim Kardashian:Because I know Taylor Swift performed at the induction for someone. Will you still love me tomorrow?
1:00:31Benny Blanco:tomorrow um so i imagine there's like a party ceremony where people sing and we get covers like very like when someone gets honored at the kennedy center and like everybody shows up to cover their music which i know is painful for the person sitting there um so i hope we get like pink and i feel like kelly clarkson would shop to sing for pink you think so are they that
1:00:46Kim Kardashian:close they're not very close but they're musicians who respect one another and their um joint cover of that's all i know so far that's all i know and pink is wearing like airpods as earrings is one of like that youtube video is most watched in my you know who i feel like will show up for pink as a tribute who's just showing up let me think it's such a good call that i don't think you're
1:01:09Jackie Oshry:gonna get who john legend is that a good call it's just like he just shows up he is like kind of the tribute guy he's like the go-to guy the go-to like tributorian yeah he's very like
1:01:22Benny Blanco:tribute fine with everyone yeah and he like covers like a wide range of music um i think people really respect him in the industry so that's a good call anyway here's john legend
1:01:31Claudia Oshry:sure like when in doubt john legend like no one's gonna be mad yeah no one's gonna be like so freaking excited yeah it's just a safe choice yeah i like that sade oh we're not done with the list no there's okay sade okay shakira oh baby when you talk like that yeah that's the thing i
1:01:50Benny Blanco:love about the rock and roll music hall of fame it's not about rock and roll to be you know anchored by the boundaries of genre you know yeah luther vandros dance with my father again and who will show up to tribute him who was just talking about him you oh no i thought they were talking about him in um like one of the real housewives maybe i'm making that up oh who luther vandros i don't know maybe i don't why because we were just talking about luther vandros
1:02:19Kim Kardashian:Oh, because Cher said Luther Vandross instead of Martin Luther when she announced at the Grammys that Sia and Kendrick Lamar won. Oh, that's funny. Bring Cher.
1:02:32Claudia Oshry:Bring Cher. That's why we were just talking about Martin Luther. Luther Vandross. Yes, thank you. But you just sang that song. Because we were just talking. Oh, okay, okay. Dance with my father again. That's beautiful. But didn't Ruben Stoddard sing it on American Idol? Probably, and I love that song. He should do the tribute. Okay, sure. And I was saying we were just talking about Ruben Stuttered. Yes, we were, but you're off base. Like, we were talking, okay. Okay, we talked about, I just, I thought we were, like, more simpatico than we are.
1:03:02Lil Dicky:That's all.
1:03:03Kim Kardashian:You're not simpatico with the facts right now. Like, we were, I sang that song because of Cher.
1:03:08Lil Dicky:When I said who should tribute him, we were just talking about him. I meant the person who, we should, we were just talking about the person who should tribute him.
1:03:14Claudia Oshry:Oh, I thought you meant we were just talking about Luther Vandross. No, I meant we should, we were just talking about the person who should tribute him. Yes, Ruben Sitter did sing that, Chilling. Chilling. And when he comes on our podcast where we interview people.
1:03:23Benny Blanco:Oh, I just want to say, the name of the podcast is Namesake. Yeah. Yeah. Write it down. Beautiful. Yeah. You don't even need to write it down.
1:03:31Claudia Oshry:And maybe it's like a miniseries, you know? Yeah. Like a moment in time. I don't think we can go on forever. Oh, my God. I can see us starting to dread it.
1:03:42Lil Dicky:And Wu-Tang Clan. Now, these are nominees.
1:03:46Claudia Oshry:Oh, damn. So some of them have already been nominated. Oh, so you don't automatically get in? No. That kind of sucks. Yeah. So they have to work for it.
1:03:58Lil Dicky:Okay. Get to work. And maybe you have to be nominated like multiple times, you know? Yep. But good luck to the candidates. Go off.
1:04:06Claudia Oshry:Kings and queens. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I'm trying to think of what movie I'm quoting.
1:04:13Benny Blanco:Oh, it's Friends. Sorry.
1:04:14Kim Kardashian:when like Phoebe's just like good luck to you.
1:04:18Claudia Oshry:Sorry, continue. Are you ready for our final story? It's a little Summer House programming news
1:04:22Lil Dicky:because the Summer House world is about to get even bigger as truly original plots next steps. So as we know, Summer House is spinning off into the city. But they are also looking for Summer Houses of other locations.
1:04:37Claudia Oshry:They are trying to like build out the Summer House. They are currently searching. It's kind of what Jersey Shore tried to do with Floribama Shore.
1:04:43Lil Dicky:Yeah. They are currently searching for locations for new iterations of Summer House itself. The show has a very specific architecture in terms of its narrative. So finding that is what we're endeavoring to do. There are actually two potential places that we're looking at. So once we find a place where the architecture is correct, we'll begin the casting process. Didn't they do this? Martha's Vineyard? Yeah, they did. So they said you need a place that people go on the weekends, then come back to their own city life. And it has to extend over a summer in order to make the storytelling compelling.
1:05:06Lil Dicky:It can't be a week or 10 days. That won't work.
1:05:08Kim Kardashian:I only know what people do in the tri-state area. So I know Nantucket. I know the Jersey Shore, which obviously they cannot do. I know the Hamptons. So people who live in like other parts of the country, like chime in.
1:05:18Benny Blanco:Where do people go on the weekends? In the summer. Well, first of all, they could do the Jersey Shore. Good luck to you. Good luck to them. But like it's Slade. No, but I actually would find it like disrespectful.
1:05:27Lil Dicky:Yeah, but they could do like Jersey Shore, Tom's River. Like they could call Jersey Shore. What is the one? Long Beach, Long Branch. No, but also like Long Island Beach. You know what they should do?
1:05:36Claudia Oshry:What's that one called?
1:05:37Benny Blanco:Long Island Beach. Long Beach Island. Thank you. Okay, but if they're really looking for like niche, they should do Deal.
1:05:43Kim Kardashian:Like Monmouth County. That's where like a lot of like very wealthy people go over the summer. And it's like, it's not a real place. They should do Deal.
1:05:48Benny Blanco:They should do Nantucket. They should, even though that's not, you don't go back. You have to fly to Nantucket. That's true. You don't go on the weekends. And why are they obsessed with the whole going back on the week thing?
1:05:58Kim Kardashian:Because I think that they don't, they like this format for summer house. I think it's like a flaw in the format is that people always have to go back to the city. And that's why I've always felt that they should cast people who can work from anywhere. and after COVID like a lot of these people could have worked from anywhere so they're all like in the house all week like having to work like that's more interesting I guess but it would be a lot of
1:06:16Lil Dicky:they can't party like I mean I guess this fits like Jersey Shore was so good like you're stuck in the same house with the same people but I guess they're not trying to recreate Jersey Shore they're limiting into the weekends where like everyone gives everything that they have they
1:06:27Benny Blanco:get to like I think the format like works for I think no I think that it's good for this show
1:06:33Claudia Oshry:like there's Jersey Shore there's a house there's real world where people live in a house together And then there's this.
1:06:38Jackie Oshry:I think in Texas, there's like a lot of lake towns that people go to. Like remember on Real Houses of Dallas, they would go to Brandy and Stephanie's Lake House. Like what's that?
1:06:46Lil Dicky:Yeah. Or like in LA, where do people, do they go to Tahoe? Yeah, like Santa Barbara.
1:06:50Kim Kardashian:But not for the, eh. There's not like a culture where you have like a summer house. Because like LA, it's always summer.
1:06:55Lil Dicky:I guess because the city is where you really have to get out of the city. Other people don't, they have pools. Even if they live in an apartment, like their apartment building has amenities. In New York, like you need to touch grass, literally.
1:07:06Claudia Oshry:Yeah, and I think it's similar in like Austin and Dallas where there are a lot of like lake towns nearby. Interesting. Yeah, where people go every weekend. But I do think like down the shore, Long Beach Island. Yeah, you're going to get the most characters in Jersey.
1:07:19Lil Dicky:Yeah, but that is like anywhere where New Yorkers go.
1:07:23Claudia Oshry:Yeah. So I'm saying, are they just continuing to do the tri-state area? They didn't say.
1:07:27Benny Blanco:Right, I'm curious.
1:07:28Claudia Oshry:I think that's interesting.
1:07:29Lil Dicky:I'm open and I watched a lot of Summer House. I didn't finish the episode. It was a whatever episode. They had like a singles event for Ben, the Australian. Lindsay came. She came to the event. Her and Ben are like flirting. Is that her first? I think so.
1:07:46Benny Blanco:I don't know. Where is she?
1:07:47Kim Kardashian:And then she came to the. I'm like more inclined. I'm so over Summer House. I just want to say sorry. Until like it's like bopping so hard. Everybody's like, I need you to watch it. I haven't really heard much.
1:07:56Lil Dicky:You don't need to watch it right now. Nothing's really happening. Except like Jesse asked Wes if he could hook up with Sierra. Oh, and what did he say? He was like shook. And he sat in front of all the other boys too. and I think like West is feeling like no that's really weird Jesse and Sierra are in bed together every episode like cuddling recapping like being best friends so their closeness like when they wouldn't even they couldn't even be possibly closer like who cares if they kiss at this point right they're literally so close yeah like Jesse's a crazy person Jesse is a crazy person but I also feel like West like after the way that he went about his business like he's not allowed to stand in the way i know that like technically it's bro code whatever but like he just can't stand in the
1:08:36Claudia Oshry:way i think if he said yes it would really hurt sierra's feelings oh true but i don't know i don't
1:08:40Benny Blanco:know why sierra doesn't love jesse back like they're so well i hope she doesn't love jesse back because like seriously this girl needs to learn her lesson like she needs to stop hooking up well maybe that's why she doesn't love her yeah but i think she like does love him back they're very very and if she is gonna hook up with someone like it should be carl like honestly
1:08:54Kim Kardashian:his desperate plea last summer was so sad and he's like the only one like while i don't find him attractive or think he would be like a good partner for her he's the only one who's like not
1:09:02Benny Blanco:a like a dick like he's the only one actually looking for a relationship though jesse says
1:09:06Lil Dicky:he's looking for a relationship oh please yeah please i actually can't take him yeah but it's
1:09:10Claudia Oshry:like you had one last summer and it was a great one you loved her so like what no you weren't so
1:09:15Jackie Oshry:you're not you were not serious um what was the other thing i was gonna say oh so yeah i'm not watching somewhere else although i did see like a big conversation maybe it was a week or two ago about like amanda smoking pot which i thought like actually might have been interesting yeah Can you explain it to me? So, yeah.
1:09:27Lil Dicky:So, Kyle, of course, you know, in the wrong capacity, shares with the group, the boys, because Amanda wasn't there hearing the conversation until she, like, walked in. That's not good. He's talking about intimacy issues in their relationship and that Amanda smokes pot every night that she has for two years. So, it's like they don't really get down because, like, she's high every night. And when would they be able to do that? Which was just, like, really disrespectful that he shared that with this bunch of, like, randos, including some new people.
1:09:53Benny Blanco:Was Amanda upset because is that like, was he like, was he misrepresenting like that? It didn't sound like it.
1:09:59Lil Dicky:No. So she then hears like she walks into the conversation. She can tell they're all talking about her. So she now knows like they were talking about her and like their sex life, which is so not cool. So like, yeah, he thoroughly he was drunk when he said it, but he like it ruined their week. They didn't talk all week. The next week they had to have a big fight. He apologized in front of the whole table for having said that to everyone. But Amanda's like, you still haven't apologized to me. Yeah. Going about it wrong. But then the next week they were talking and she was like, you act like I'm at high every night, but I don't smoke until I take the dogs out.
1:10:28Lil Dicky:So that's like after 10, like you can hang out with me before that, but not denying that she does that she smokes every single night.
1:10:34Benny Blanco:And that doesn't leave room for intimacy.
1:10:36Kim Kardashian:Yeah. Well, obviously, like she's running away from him. So like the pot is not really the problem. It's like, why am I smoking this pot? Oh, because I don't want to be with you. Like, yeah. Yeah.
1:10:45Benny Blanco:But bringing it up in front of everyone, that's really bad. Yeah. It's just like they just keep one another.
1:10:52Claudia Oshry:What were they up to? Have they introduced anybody new? Because I remember there were new girls. Two new girls, Bailey and Levi. Is there like a makeup girl?
1:11:00Benny Blanco:A makeup girl? I saw this girl on my TikTok when they announced like new people.
1:11:03Claudia Oshry:She was like, yeah, it's me. And she was like doing her makeup. She was like a TikToker who does makeup.
1:11:05Lil Dicky:It wasn't Bailey.
1:11:06Claudia Oshry:This is not a Tik... None of them are a TikToker who does makeup as far as I know. What TikTok did I say?
1:11:12Lil Dicky:Oh, Dara. We just met Dara. Oh, okay. She is an influencer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She is very beautiful. Yeah. She just came. So West invited her to the singles event as everyone had to bring a single. So he was like, we used to hook up and I'm bringing her because it didn't work out or whatever. And someone thought that was we Amanda was like feeling like you're bringing her around to like hook up with her again. Like in front of Sierra. Don't do it. But I don't think that's the case. In front of Sierra. I thought we've moved on from that. No, I know. But if he's bringing someone who he like has he he can't hook up with anyone in the house.
1:11:44Claudia Oshry:Why? He just can. That's just. No, I don't agree. we're talking about Sierra and Jesse hooking up but Sierra's injured party she can do what she wants no I'm sorry people are allowed to break up with other people and then still hook up but even last summer like when he was like last summer he was in jail fine he had to act right but like he's allowed to live I don't know if they're gonna they say he's on probation no I'm sorry like he's out of jail
1:12:06Lil Dicky:I'm sorry he didn't
1:12:07Kim Kardashian:even do anything that bad
1:12:08Claudia Oshry:he's out of jail
1:12:08Lil Dicky:he's on probation last summer he was in jail this summer he's on probation
1:12:10Kim Kardashian:last summer he was in jail because he got famous and gave a really weird article interview and broke up with Sierra he was allowed to break up with Sierra but he wasn't allowed to talk about it. And so, yes, you're in jail and you have to act right for a summer. The cuffs are off. I'm sorry.
1:12:21Claudia Oshry:Like, this is ridiculous.
1:12:22Lil Dicky:But anyways, I don't think him and Dara are. He said in his interview, he's like, I'm friends with a lot of my exes. Like, they're really cool people. That's why I like them to begin with. Like, it doesn't mean we can't have like a friendship. And I think based on the previews, she has something going on with someone else in the house. Oh, OK. Good, good, good. But yeah, she seems she seems cool. We didn't get to know much of her yet. Got it. OK, because I'd seen a TikTok. And then boys, we have Ben, the Australian, who was also the Bachelor of Australia. Oh, he was on The Bachelor? He was on The Bachelor.
1:12:48Lil Dicky:Oh, you're kidding. And he's really cute. And I think he must be like so insanely charming because the way they talk about him. Oh, my gosh. KJ, who's also really cute.
1:12:58Claudia Oshry:He's a friend of West's. I think I met him in the first episode. Skateboarder? Skateboard model?
1:13:04Lil Dicky:Yeah, whatever. Skateboarder slash model. And I think that's it for the boys right now. All right. Plus the usual suspects. but no last night like nothing really that major happened just like Wes Jesse kept me up with Sierra Sierra and then I think like Wes is going to identify like that he still has feelings for Sierra okay I kind of am rooting for them you are yeah like they were like a real couple and like the fact that he just
1:13:32Kim Kardashian:got famous like so quickly I think really messed with his head and he handled it like an extremely immature man would do and then we need like um and I give Grace because I do feel he was like, I believe his feelings for Sierra were really genuine.
1:13:46Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but his desire to meet girls at watch parties was more genuine.
1:13:50Benny Blanco:I could get him thinking like this is only going to happen to me once. I could see somebody who was like right person, wrong time. He's not like the smartest guy ever.
1:13:57Kim Kardashian:I could see him making a mistake like that. And if she wants to forgive him, I'll allow Grace for that. But if she doesn't want to forgive him, I allow Grace for that too. Oh, okay.
1:14:06Benny Blanco:Very interesting. Yeah. because I felt like at the time like they were a really nice couple like and I felt like it was real but now like Jesse is kind of in the way I think Jesse is a crazy person like nobody should
1:14:17Kim Kardashian:be with him he is he's crazy yeah if you didn't see what he did to Lexi last summer and want nothing to do with him oh my god I would never be with someone like that like honestly what he did to Lexi was borderline evil like I like you didn't you literally forced her into a relationship and then did not protect her on tv like yucky yeah any girl who sees that and is like yeah that's my man and whatever happens to you is on you gaslit her into thinking like you and sierra are brother and sister and now you want to kiss your sister jesse showed women everywhere who he is last season
1:14:51Benny Blanco:whoever he dates next people didn't what happens to you is on you people don't see it that way okay
1:14:57Lil Dicky:fine so you date him see what happens yeah no i i'm with you he's crazy and he keeps saying in confessionals like he's looking for a relationship liar he wants something serious and west is the
1:15:06Benny Blanco:one who doesn't want that wrong because west west can be tied down by the right woman you think so i do jesse's crazy yeah you may well start watching it sounds like my opinions are like not going to be liked yeah i'll let you know when it like picks up a little bit i'm sick of my opinions not being liked you know what i mean like yeah i don't why is whatever i think about a show like always the hot take i just feel like we really we're elevated we see beneath the surface
1:15:29Lil Dicky:Yeah.
1:15:29Benny Blanco:Yeah.
1:15:30Claudia Oshry:Maybe because we're like in the industry. Like, and we know.
1:15:32Benny Blanco:We have extra like life experience. Yeah. That colors our opinions.
1:15:36Kim Kardashian:I'm just like sick of it. People are like, oh, once again, Jackie and Claudia with a bad take. Like, what show are you guys watching? Like, I feel crazy. Yeah.
1:15:44Benny Blanco:Maybe I won't watch it.
1:15:46Claudia Oshry:But that's it. That's your show. Yeah.
1:15:48Benny Blanco:It was a good one. That's our show.
1:15:50Claudia Oshry:We did it. For you. For you.
1:15:53Benny Blanco:Thank you guys for listening to The Toast, the millennial morning show where we deliver the fast-paced stories that you need to do every Monday through Friday. I like how we've become the millennial morning show again. Like our episodes, we are a morning show now. We're so early now.
1:16:01Claudia Oshry:I like that. Yeah.
1:16:02Benny Blanco:I think like, of course, when we were in our 20s, like we couldn't be the morning show.
1:16:06Kim Kardashian:Like, I'm sorry. But now I feel like we're back. We're sitting at a desk. Like we're back to being a morning show.
1:16:12Jackie Oshry:Yeah. We haven't like really taken that on yet. And I digested that. It's just a commitment.
1:16:17Claudia Oshry:It took us a while to shed it. We literally changed the name of the show. I know. Do we go back? No. No.
1:16:25Benny Blanco:I think like this was so freeing. Yeah. No. And like some days we can't be the morning. And we are like just the toast. Yes, but I. We're the toast of the town. I think it's exciting that we've sort of reverted back to the original form of our show. Like sitting at desks. Being, dropping in the morning.
1:16:42Claudia Oshry:And being news based. And factual as always. As always.
1:16:48Benny Blanco:Thank you guys so much for listening to The Toast of the Millionaire Morning Show.
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1:16:59Lil Dicky:love ya bye
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