Memoirs of A Tyler with Tyler Cameron: Friday, June 20th 2025

24:06I'm not trying to take it off. Yeah. So, I mean, who knows? You never know. I feel like life could take you on an ayahuasca trip with your buddies down in Costa Rica. I think that's where it goes down. Exactly. Yeah. I won a trip to Costa Rica, so maybe I do it then. Yeah. Where'd you win a trip to Costa Rica? I bought it at my gala. Oh, like you at an auction? Yeah. Oh, that's nice. When are you going to go? I don't have to book it still. I have to October to book it, so. Okay, well, get on it. I know. I need to get to it. That will be so fun. You'll go with Tate? Yeah, I'll go with Tate, bring a bunch of people.

24:38It'll be fun. Cool. Okay, we'll see you in Costa Rica. Like now when we see you there, we'll like know. We're doing Ayahuasca. We're doing Ayahuasca. Do you think Tate would do it? No, she'd be like, you're an idiot. No, I'm so with her. Our next story is some exciting music news for Beyonce and Miley Cyrus fans because Miley joined Beyonce for a live debut of Two Most Wanted during the Cowboy Carter tour in Paris last night. So this was very exciting. Beyonce took her tour to Paris. And Miley came out to perform their duet to Most Wanted. They seriously both looked amazing. And the song is so good.

25:15And this must have been really exciting for the fans. Why can't we get that here in America? I don't know. Why should I have to go all the way to Paris? Why are we giving that to the people in Paris? No, that's so true. They already have crepes and all these other great things and cheaper Louis Vuitton. And Miley lives in LA. They could have easily done it in LA or anywhere in the US would have been a shorter flight. I mean, just like do it in Houston where Beyonce's from or do it, you know. No, seriously. I heard, I just like saw some. I'm disgusted. I saw someone say on X that like Beyonce is like a very special relationship with Paris and her Paris fans.

25:47And so like she always does something like extra special for her Paris shows. What about her Florida fans? Right. And like what about like the real Miley fans? Yes. Not that I was going to the show. Like they weren't watching Miley back in Hannah Montana. They were not raised on Hannah Montana. No, they didn't have Disney Channel in Paris. I don't know this as a fact but I'm just saying it so what did you watch growing up? I watched remember Recess? yeah I used to run home and watch Recess that show was sick that show was sick and then like also TRL and like like watching the old music videos like I used to run home watch Recess or watch the music videos we don't have music videos anymore like no I know top 10 countdown of the best music videos it was awesome no and now when people put out music videos which they do still it's like why are you putting like why are you doing this like for a little bit of marketing or like clips for social media like it's not what it used to be there's nowhere where they live other than like youtube yeah yeah i guess it's also i don't know music videos are just sort of a lost art it was a beautiful thing what year were you born in 93 93 okay cool so like like similar to me but but younger no i was born in 92 and i'm not like weird about it yeah no that's what i said like i was being not facetious when i said similar to me but yeah do you know anyone that lies about their age i feel like i see people online not anyone i'm personally close with but like influencers that i follow that i can feel are lying about their age because it's like very murky and it feels like they've been the same age for the last six years that i follow that should be someone's like niche is like uncovering real ages to people yeah but i think it's so crazy to lie about your age especially you know at this age that we're at like whether you're 30 or 33 it's like when you get older it's like we need to we don't need to count forever like if you don't want to if you want to like after 50 you can stop counting yeah if you don't want to count anymore like 50 plus 5 yeah but i feel like for people who are like just trying to stay like seeming like they're in their 20s like that's weird to me yeah you only get 10 of those yeah yeah you can't get more are you enjoying your 30s i think it's gotten better and better every year yeah it's gotten more like serious and more like less party but more like building a life now yeah which because i was like i remember when i turned 30s like holy shit i got to become like an adult now 20s were just mayhem yeah 30 hit i was like well if i don't start building something i'm gonna look back at like my opportunity on the show everything has come from it like as like just like a waste yeah so i'm like all right now i gotta start building businesses start doing all these things.

28:20That's good though. I feel like some people miss that memo. Yeah. I know some grown children that are like 40. Yeah. Don't want to be them. No. I feel like men can get away with it like a little bit longer, but still like your window of opportunity, especially coming from the show, you don't want to miss it. Yeah. No. Sometimes I like can't believe it's been like seven years. That's amazing. Yeah. Because like you're like everywhere still. Like I genuinely forget you're from The Bachelor sometimes. You guys are still having me on seven years later. Can you believe me? No, and you're just doing so much more than like - Three kids since then.

28:56Three, I know. I'm trying to think when we podcasted together, it was, which studio? Usually I'm good at remembering. I think it was like in the apartment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was only like a two month - Remember the pup? The pup? But like we were only in that apartment for like two months and we had a lot of great guests come through in that time. That was like right before COVID, like January to March. and that's when you came on. That was fun times. Yes, I was. Yeah, good times. Our next story is not something I've been personally following, but I know a lot of people are. Karen Reed is not guilty.

29:29So on Wednesday, I think it was, the verdict came out and she was found not guilty of secondary murder in connection to the 2022 death of her boyfriend, John O 'Keefe. And she has now spoken out to thank those who have supported her through the years. She said, I just want to say two things. She said outside the courthouse. I could not be standing here without these amazing supporters who have supported me and my team. The second thing I want to say is that no one has fought harder for justice of John O 'Keefe than I have. Have you been following this trial? No, I didn't know this existed until yesterday.

29:57Yeah, I like had heard people like I saw people making videos about it. And I was like, okay, it's just like a cultural blind spot for me. I'm fine with that. And then I think Claudia watched the documentary. So she was like sharing with me the... Didn't like one guy like kind of like a blogger or something like uncover all this? I think I saw on TikTok is like a blogger or like a, he calls himself a journalist. The guy was like, no, you're a blogger. He's like, no, I'm a journalist. And he like uncovered a bunch of stuff and like made this a bigger thing. And then that's kind of like how he became a famous journalist too, is like through the Karen Reed story.

30:31Got it. Yeah. A lot of people have been like fighting for a very invested. Great green suit on her though. Yeah. We can talk about her fashion. Yeah, she does look really good. I don't know what she looked like before and what she typically looks like, but yeah, she, she looks good. She's ready to be a star now. She can be an influencer. Yeah. People are going to really want to be hearing from her and she's not guilty. So that's good. Yes. Brand safe. Brand safe. So I'm happy for, for her and for everyone who was really rooting for her. I know this like sort of like had people in a tizzy and I'm sure if I watch the documentary, I would feel the same way.

31:08So really crazy story. I gotta, I gotta watch the documentary. I gotta be more relevant. You think so? But I feel like, well now I've missed it. Cause like when the Murdoch stuff was happening, like I watched the documentary, like as the trial was happening, cause I was like, okay, I want to care whatever happens. I want to be invested. Do you ever watch that one? No, but didn't he like kill his whole family? Yeah. I think that's what the windup was. Yeah. Yeah. Yikes. Crazy. That was really crazy. Not brand friendly. Not brand safe. What kind of stuff do you typically watch? I've been actually watching like a lot of like, junk like reality tv um like i just watched temptation island oh wow yeah loved it yeah it was good junk it was good it was good um what else i'm oh watching this new show called walking dead is that like this other the zombie show from golden globe 10 years ago yeah i've just started watching that do you like it oh i'm locked in okay so yeah i'm always behind the times like i I still use Pandora.

32:09I'm never watching the relevant show. I need to start being more with the times. Got it. Well, I feel like, do you? Well, I think to know what's going on in this world. Yes, yes. To know what's on... Unless TikTok's going to be my only source of... Information. That's a scary place to be at. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Do you watch Game of Thrones? No. You have to. See, I wasn't into that. Like my girlfriend just started watching the court of thorns or reading the court of thorns. Yeah. And like, it's just like about like fairies, like banging and stuff. Like, I don't, I don't know if like game of Thrones is like a bunch of fairies banging.

32:45There's no fairies, but it is like medieval times, but it's amazing. Like you will be obsessed. It's the greatest show ever made. After walking dead, I'll give game of Thrones a shot. Yeah. It's the greatest show ever made. There's no fairies. Um, and I love game of Thrones. I didn't like a guitar. No. Yeah. You didn't like a guitar. No. My girlfriend was missing. When she was reading. When she was reading. I couldn't. Like she'd wake up in the mornings and read. She'd be walking on the treadmill reading. She would, you know, on the plane read. I was like, well, I don't. I'm so glad she's done with like the eight books.

33:17Yeah. And she went through them in like two months. I'm like, but like, I was like, for two months, we didn't exist. They say that if once you get into the second ACOTAR book, it takes a while to get into it. But in the second book, like you really get into it. And I was only halfway through the first book. I'm like, I'm not reading two books to start to. Like, that's insane. Yeah. How did the book ever get a sequel if the first one stunk so bad? Yeah, well, that's why I guess I never got a sequel. Yes, you have a book. Share your book. You Deserve Better. It's about dating. It's about dating?

33:44Yeah. It was a great time. It was like when the show ended, everyone was like, you're this feminist woke king. I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm just like a regular dude. If a girl says no, no is no. Yeah. It's kind of that hard. You know what I mean? It's like the bar was so low and I was like, well, maybe we should have a conversation about this. Yeah. Well, I feel like the sequel to that would be like a relationship book. So maybe if me and Tate can figure all of our do's and don'ts, we can do one. Yeah. Yeah. Or what about a memoir? Memoirs of a Tyler. Oh, yeah. That would be a fun book to write.

34:19I feel like it would be. Yeah, that would be like when I'm 60 and I don't care anymore. That's true. All of it's like too close. Like you still are like probably friends with the people. I don't know if it would be brand friendly. You think so? It would be a little wild. Really? I had a fun time those last like seven years. So in like the post-bachelor time was like the wild time. Yeah. As it should be. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was, it was, yeah, I'm slowing down. Okay, good. But like now you have all those memories, you know? So like no regrets. Cause like otherwise. I had the most fun. It was the most like, yeah, exactly.

34:50Did it all. As you should. Like, and I think that's what people would have hoped for Tyler C. Like coming off The Bachelor. As we hope for Jalen right now. Coming off of Love Island. Jalen, live your life. Live your life. It's going to be so fun. The best of times. He was on Love Island for two days. He got a passport. He never left the country before. And he came to Fiji for Love Island. And these good for nothings voted him off. My one Love Island Fiji store. I was in Fiji right before they were filming Love Island last year. Okay. And I will say Fiji, beautiful, but the worst place for me to go.

35:27Why? Because I went, I was like single. I was, it was like two years ago. I was single. I was just off the show Special Forces. And I was like, and I had all these Raya dates on Australia. I was going to go nuts in Australia. But then the travel person said I couldn't go to Australia. They said I needed a visa. Who's the travel person? The person in charge of me. So she lied to me. Everyone's like, you can get your visa in Australia. It's like the easiest place to get into. So then I was like, okay, do I go to Bali or Fiji? And Bali was raining the whole time. So I went to Fiji. In Fiji, I get there for 14 days.

35:57It's just honeymooners in me. so I'm like the weird guy by myself solo traveler solo traveler by myself like I'm expecting to party have fun do all these things no I'm like on like these remote islands I become I became like a villager I was like I was like with these people like spearfishing like eating it they're like they're like their little houses and everything like I was smoking weed with them like I was doing all the things that like the Fijians did that's cool so you were like living the local life. Yeah, but it was not the trip you had planned. Not the trip I had planned, no. You should have wound up on Love Island.

36:31Yeah, I should have just jumped from Special Forces to Love Island. Did you like Special Forces? Yeah, it was grueling. It was the hardest thing I've ever done, but it was very rewarding and amazing. Of all the reality TV alumni shows, and there are a lot now which I like because I like seeing our faves. There are faves. We want more. What would you like to do? what would I like to do Traders I haven't really watched Traders so I can't get my opinion on that but I don't know I feel like I would just love to do something like kind of like Summer House where you get like all your friends you live in a house and you party every weekend and you hang out and enjoy each other well that's a great segue like into our next story because we have some Summer House news and I wanted to talk to you about Summer House because as I was reading this news I was like Tyler C should be on Summer House so Emeril from Summer House announces his exit after one season He said, I know, shocking.

37:23In a post on his Instagram story, Emeril announced that he's not coming back. He said he meant to share this last week, but with everything going on, the timing didn't feel right. He said, I've decided not to return for another season of Summer House. I know, shocking. It was an incredible opportunity and I truly had a lot of fun. He said, I won't drag this out, but I want to say thank you all for your support and for supporting my foundation as well. You know what? Like all of the Summer House exits, well, really just Lexi, have been so shocking. that I actually thought Emeril might stay just because that would be shocking.

37:55So Lexi's out? Lexi's out. Do you know Lexi? Emeril's out and Paige the store goes out? Yeah, and that's all we know so far. There were rumors about Carl, but it seems like he's still, and I think he'll still be on. Jesse and West. Yeah, I feel like you're right there with those people. You could be on Summer House and you are interested. I mean, something like that would be so much fun. Yeah. They just go hang out. Why are they leaving? Yeah. It must be very toxic in there because like all you gotta do is hang out and party all weekend and they're just hooking up with each other. That's so funny because everyone's like, no, it's so hard to be in the summer house and like you are filmed.

38:28You guys know it's hard construction. You know what's hard is like actually working and like building a businesses and doing things that are hard, you know, like sitting there and DJing and partying with your friends and like that's not fucking hard. That's what I call a vacation and I will sign up for that vacation. You and Tate should go on. Yes, we'll go on but I just think like, Like, people don't know what hard is. No, I totally agree. But they say it's hard. No, I'll show you hard. Yeah. Come renovate this house with me. You need to do wife swap. Yes. With this summer house cast. They all need to go on Special Forces to see what hard is.

39:06Yeah. Yeah. What was the hardest thing you did on Special Forces? The last day, they wouldn't let us sleep. We went through interrogations for 14 hours. We didn't sleep for like 40 hours. and like they stripped me down into like this little suit and it's below 30 degrees so you're just like i was shivering i was like getting a mild hypothermia i was passing out like were there any moments when you were on it you're like why did i sign up for this yeah yeah and you can think that lady right there in the baby blue shirt right there it was her idea i was like like when i did this because i thought i was gonna be like this show like it's hollywood it can't be that hard right yeah or like a big brother sort of situation where you're just like doing these these challenges Yeah.

39:44But then like you guys. Can't be that hard. No, it was the hardest thing I've ever. They owned our asses and there was no production. There was no like, you either get hurt or you quit. Who from your season did you become closest with? Nick, Viall, and JoJo. JoJo. Siwa. JoJo Siwa. And then she did Big Brother. Yep. That's so funny. You just did Nick's podcast and you guys are friends from Special Forces. Yep. How did he fare on Special Forces? He has an amazing story because he was always doing pretty good. and then he they really got into him one day and like they are putting him through this like freezing cold dunk tank and making us work out and like and like imagine being soaking wet and like below 30 like below freezing temperatures and like and like having to keep jumping in this freezing cold like he when he did that he died yeah and like he like we were trying to warm him up everything he just looked like he was out of it like he was done and uh he like for sure i was like watching him i was like he's out of here and then he kind of you know licked his wounds and the next day like he was still down and out and then we had an event like a race we had to do and tom sandoval was his partner and he all of a sudden nick just became like this monster and just ate it up got through it was like yelling at tom like come on get going like it was incredible to see him like be at the lows of lows and come back and fight his way through and then he stuck it out and he went through it and I was just like, that's a dude.

41:09That's a fighter. I fell in love with Nick. Oh my gosh. That is so crazy. How was Tom Sandoval? He was an interesting character. I will say Tom Sandoval gives a thousand percent of everything he does. Yeah, yeah. I don't think that that was ever the debate about him. But he's oblivious to a lot of things. He doesn't understand how many times he made us do things more and more and more because he kept fucking up. You know what I mean? Which I think is, you know, what we see on TV. Yeah, that's really, really funny. Okay, so you would do summer, like the show that next you want to do, like a relaxing show.

41:47Yeah, because I did, right before Special Forces, I did my home rental show. So like, you know what's hard, guys? Eight months of filming a show where you have to manage clients, you have to renovate houses, you have to manage the production team, you have to manage your whole construction crew. And you got to renovate nine homes. Yeah. And stay under budget. and try and make money. Right. And so you're ready for a vacation. That was hard. And so then I went on Special Forces thinking that was a vacation. Really? That was freaking hard. Because you thought it was going to be like fake. I thought it was going to be Hollywood and fake.

42:18I was like, no way. Like this is that hard. Brutal. Brutal. Yeah. Okay. So if you could do that, you could really do like, you could do Amazing Race. I feel like you and Tate would be great. We would be great. That'd be fun. She would, that's been one of her dream shows. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. And what about Dancing with the Stars? I love to dance. So count me in. And Tate's a dancer too. So she'd be pissed if I got that before her. Yeah. People like love dancing with the stars. Like want to be on. I feel that way about it too, where it's like, that seems like a dream. I was, I was like two classes away from getting my dance minor in college.

42:48So I really enjoy, I mean, I almost failed out of college my first year. And so my coach was like, well, you're going to take all these dance classes, get your GPA up. And my first class was like ballet. And it's me and 30 girls. I was like, well, I love this. I love ballet. I am the bachelor right now. Did your dancing help with your football? I feel like what movie is that from where they like do dance classes to fix their football? Game plan. Game plan. With the rock. Oh, really? I had to watch that. Did it help with your footwork? Yeah. I mean, it makes you so much more limber and helps you with like with injuries and all that stuff.

43:22That is really funny. Have you been invited on any of these alumni shows and turned it down? Yeah. Yeah, there was like one that she, I was like, this sounds awesome. Like it was like a crazy, like you're in space kind of show. And I was like, I love space now. Like I'll go. Yeah. And then she was like, you're not doing this. This is stupid. What was it? Did it ever come out? Yeah, it went out. And then I got to do another show. I got to do Special Forces instead. And so we were grateful. Okay. Yeah, that sounds better. If Jeff Bezos like gave you a spot on Blue Origin, would you want to go? No, no.

43:56So there was a time when there was like that company, whoever did that, was like reaching out to influencers. Right. And they were trying to get influencers to go up there and make it this thing. And I was like, you got to pay me like$5 million. All right. You know what I mean? That's a lot, but I feel like maybe they were paying. I feel like I'm going to die up there. Right. You know what I mean? I remember like Pilot Pete said yes to it. And he made this whole post about him going to do it. And then it never happened. And then we see Katy Perry and all these people. I was like, oh, it finally came to fruition.

44:28It actually happened years and years later. But I remember Pilot Pete, like, I'm going to space, doing all this stuff. And then it never happened. And I was like, and I remember them in my DMs about it. I was like, this sounds awful. Yeah, so you're not interested. No. If anybody's, like, doing a reality show in space. Unless The Walking Dead starts to happen, then I'll go to space. Oh, okay. Okay, good to know. No, I feel the same way. I'm not, like, super interested in going at the moment. No. plans could change. What do you do there? Well, they really just go up and come down. It's not like they're going on living in space.

45:04It's not what you think. They're not really being astronauts. And, you know, what's everyone going to wait for me to say something like Katy Perry? Yeah, you have to have a quote when you come down. It's just a lot of pressure. And everybody apparently hates you when you go to space. Exactly. So stay home. Stay home. I'm going to stay in Jupiter. Well, instead of go to Jupiter. the planet. Yes, that was good. That was good, Jackie. Thank you. It needed to be explained so it couldn't have been that good, but thank you. Well, I'm a little slow, so don't take it personal. I also need to let you know that today's episode is brought to you by Olipop, which is a new kind of soda that combines the classic soda taste with the benefits of a functional ingredient blend to support digestive health.

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50:3116 billion. I better not be one of them. Well, I feel like how could you not be? This is like the biggest password hack of all time, but I like barely saw this in the news. Um, and it's really making the case for that strong password option. You know, sometimes I do it, but sometimes I don't. Sometimes I do it, but then I made the dumb mistake of not buying a MacBook. I bought like a regular computer one time because I freaked out one day. I couldn't figure out how to get to a file. I was like, I need to go back to the windows. That's easy. Back to the basics. Yeah. But now I still can't find a file there.

50:59So if I have a strong password though, it like saves to the computer, saves to your phone. I don't have that connectivity anymore It's stupid I messed up Oh you're in a pickle I didn't even Yeah I didn't even think about how A strong password is like an Apple privilege I guess like you could invent a strong password And like I don't know Keep a ledger of them Yeah but then you get No But that's I do think my password is pretty strong though Yeah but it's I have confidence in my password Hacked is hacked Not You can't hack my password But they're not hacking it Because they're guessing it They're hacking it Because they're getting into the mainframe Right?

51:31I don't even know what you're saying anymore But then it's like if you have a different password. So some people use the same password for everything. So if it gets hacked from one time, then people. I have like seven I try. If I can't figure out, I try like seven different ones. Yeah, I feel like. And then I freak out. Then I call Tate. And she goes, you know, you have a whole account or a whole spreadsheet of all your passwords. I go, I don't know how to get to it. That's even harder. I need a password to get there. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not a perfect system. I do feel like with face ID and stuff, it's like helping and like biometric, like fingerprints and whatever, like that is a little bit more secure.

52:06I hit a button the other day where now if I try to log into something for my Google, my Gmail or whatever, on my phone, I have to have Tate take her phone to scan my phone to let me in. And I'm like, I don't know what button I hit, but this makes everything way harder. Wait, that's insane. And also not that I think that this applies to you because I don't think you guys are going to break up. But maybe Tate is doing this to have control of my life. Well, that, but also it's like, what if you broke up and like, you didn't realize and then you have to like call your ex and be like, and not you, just I'm saying like the royal you.

52:33And then you have to call your ex and be like, can you come log me into my Gmail? Can you, can you log me into my Netflix? Oh yeah. Well, that's something else. Could you imagine calling her and be like, Hey, like I have this girl over. Can you call me? What's your Netflix password? Like we were sharing. It's really, it's getting really messy. Like all the passwords. I do feel like it needs to be streamlined and there are so many different like services, is even for when you think about like your Apple TV and all the apps, like every single app, you have a different login and password. Like that's just not working.

53:00I tried to like watch TV on a different TV yesterday in my house and like nothing was logged in. It was during nap time. Like my son was sleeping in my room. So I was like, okay, I'll go in another room. I spent the entire nap time trying to log into these things and I didn't get to watch one thing. Yep. Yep. It's troubling. It's troubling. Isn't it crazy too how like we had cable and now we just have 20 ,000 streaming services. So we basically have to pay for every one of them again. Like we have cable again now. Yeah. No. And then what's going to happen is they're all going to merge into one big streamer.

53:33That's cable where you can watch everything together. Like we go backwards just to go forwards. Exactly. And now Uber, apparently it's going to have like Uber transit where it's like a bus. No, that's really funny. I bet you one day we're going to be like, I need a cord on my phone to the wall. Well, now I do use wired headphones now. Do you? Because I'm sure you've seen, like people say like the Bluetooths are like radiating through your brain. Oh, really? Which I saw that. It's like, okay, I don't want that. Whether or not like that's really what's happening. It doesn't sound like what I want for my brain.

54:07But also like just the cord is like a little more dependable. Like my AirPods are never charged. They're always chiming. They're always, every time I leave my house, I get a notification that my AirPod is in my house. I'm like, I don't care. I didn't even know they were charged. Well, I panicked because I had my AirPods with me last week and I thought I lost them. I was like, this is the eighth pair. Yeah. Oh. At what point do you say, like, I'm not someone who's cut out for AirPod life? Yeah. I should. I should have done that already. They're so tiny though. I know. And they're so like, they're so slippery.

54:37But what's good now is they're louder. So if I lose them, I can like chime them. Right. You can chime them. I can find them, but they have to be charged. But they have to be charged. But what about like a big headphone? I've done those. Like a max. They hurt my ears. Oh, you're sensitive. I have sensitive ears. That is really funny. No, all this technology, like really, it's like bringing us forward to bring us back. And what's old is new again. I felt that way about, oh, also how like they used to put out a TV show and they put out like the whole season. And we would all binge it. And we got accustomed to binging.

55:11And now it's episodic. Yeah. But you just made us into addicted bingeaholics. I know. It's crazy. what can we do? And now we're all wearing retro clothes and it's cool to thrift and now my whole house is designed like it's like an old French cottage. Right, I love the design of your house. Thank you. And I feel like that is coming back, like having things in your house, not just like minimalist. Having character. Yeah, character. Bring back character. I think in your 20s you'd think minimalistic is cool. Yeah, but I think it's also the way that I experienced it. It's like I don't know what I like yet, so I'm just going to go with nothing.

55:45Also, in your 20s, we don't have money, so like having nothing is cool right i can't just like buy all these chachkis i remember like ah tapestry on a on a on a bell like that's cool it's like a little bit of design you know like it's like it was like five bucks you know yeah or like you in college we'd hang like posters you know like oh my god beer we liked you know oh yeah for sure i used in my college dorm like i really decorated but then once i moved to an apartment i just like i didn't know like how to design and then also once i moved in with zach we had to like figure out what our style was together because if it was up to me like everything would have been pink and was up to him like it would have been like black like a bachelor pad so like we kind of were just like okay like white and marble and mirror it's like neutral yeah and then we like built up from there and now i've got some pink in the house but not in every room you'll get more you'll get more yeah yeah no he's he's kind of given up he's like i know it makes you so happy and like it's i learned right away you just kind of got to roll with what she likes yeah you know so like a lot of this design state like 90 % of it.

56:45I wanted to keep some of the more masculine touches in here and some places. In certain areas that you use the most. Yeah, like my gym is all black. Right. And it's more modern and it's cool and it's like my space. You know, my office, they did a little bit more like modern-esque, you know what I mean? But it still carries the picture frame molding and the wainscoting from all the downstairs up there. Wainscoting. Tell me about wainscoting. How do you get wainscoting? It's like wall. No, I know what it is, but I just feel like it's something that if your house doesn't have it, how do you add it?

57:20How do you add it? You go get some wood. Okay. You call me. Okay. Actually, you call Tate. Call Tate. Tate's over here. She can cut all this stuff, put it all on the walls, paint it. She makes it look great. So you guys didn't use a decorator at all? No. We used Gailey Alex to do my office and basically my office rooms upstairs. Okay. But everything else was all Tate, except for the garage. which I, that was me. You guys have to look at the pictures because like it's fully designed, like different, you know, like moldings painted different color than the wall, than the floors. And like, it looks like completely done.

57:51She did an amazing, and this was her first crack at it. So what's next for her in the space? And are you guys going to have like, you guys should be the next Chip and Joe. We're working on it. Okay, good. That just seems like a no brainer. We're doing another house together here soon. I bought like this cute little brick cottage and like, we just kind of like, I kind of overpaid on it because we fell in love with this house and we wanted it to be like a rental. Oh, that's good. Yeah. And I thought it would be like a fun Airbnb for everyone to come to. Yeah. Or booking.com, you know? And we, so, but like we just didn't really do much to it.

58:27We thrifted the whole thing and it kind of like went a little grandma chic. Okay. That's cool though. It's cool. Coastal grandmother, cottage core. Cottage core. But like people coming down from Ohio, New York, wherever, they want to be in something coastal. So we're going to kind of go like Palm Beach coastal inside, and it's going to be really cool. So I'm excited for her to do something different than what she did at our house. Yeah, that's very exciting. Well, I'm so happy for the both of you. It seems like you're doing great. Where can everyone follow all of your projects? You can follow on my Instagram, Tyler J.

58:58Cameron. You can follow on Tate's Instagram. Ta-da, it's Tate. Oh, my God. I thought it was Tata. Tata. Yeah. Like when I think about it, I've never like set her handle at live, but I'm like, it's Tata Tate. Yeah. It's ta-da. That's really funny. That's great. Yes. Okay. Well, thank you so much for joining us. We absolutely love having you and the toasters love you and we really appreciate your time. Have a great weekend. Tyler's off to catch a flight and he's going to have a great weekend. Yes. I hope you have a great weekend as well. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. We will see you back on Monday.

59:31Have another fun episode in store. And I hope all of you out there have a great weekend as well. We love you. Bye.