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The Toast Podcast Episode Notes
Episode Title
Nothing Will Ever Be The Same Again: Thursday, May 15th, 2025
Hosts
- Jackie Oshry (@JackieOshry)
- Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob)
Episode Overview This episode features a variety of pop culture topics, including celebrity news and a recap of *Summer House*. Jackie prepares for her maternity leave, marking a significant transition in the show's dynamic.
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Key Segments
- Celebrity News Highlights
- Prince Harry and Meghan's Secret Mansion Summit
- Harry and Meghan reportedly hosted Brooklyn Beckham and Nicola Peltz for dinner to discuss family feuds.
- Discussion on whether this was a wise choice, considering Harry and Meghan's own struggles with their families.
- Rihanna's New Music Release
- Rihanna announces her first song in three years for the *Smurfs* soundtrack titled "Friend of Mine."
- Justin Bieber's Financial Troubles
- Justin Bieber allegedly owes millions to former manager Scooter Braun due to a tour loan for the canceled Justice Tour.
- Blake Lively and Taylor Swift Drama
- Allegations suggest Blake threatened Taylor regarding personal text messages during a legal dispute, raising questions about their friendship.
- Rebranding of HBO Max
- HBO Max is reverting its name back from "Max" to "HBO Max," reflecting a recognition of brand strength and customer recognition.
- Personal Updates & Reflections
- Jackie's Maternity Leave
- Jackie discusses her last episode before maternity leave, expressing a mix of excitement and anxiety about the upcoming changes.
- Anticipation about new co-hosts during her absence.
- *Summer House* Recap
- Episode Recap
- The episode focuses on the final weekend in the house, highlighting the escalating tensions among cast members, especially between Lexi and Jessie.
- Lexi confronts Jessie about perceived dishonesty and the implications of his friendship with Sierra, creating drama.
- Discussion on how Lexi’s handling of the situation reveals her strong character amidst criticism.
- Themes of Honesty and Trust
- The recap emphasizes the importance of honesty in relationships, especially in the context of Lexi feeling betrayed and isolated.
- Jessie’s behavior raises questions about loyalty and boundaries in friendships.
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Key Takeaways
- The episode marks a pivotal moment for the show as Jackie prepares for motherhood, hinting at a shift in the podcast's focus.
- The celebrity news highlights the multifaceted lives of public figures and their personal challenges, often reflecting broader societal themes.
- The *Summer House* recap underscores the complexities of relationships, trust, and communication, resonating with listeners' own experiences.
Final Thoughts Listeners are encouraged to stay tuned for future episodes featuring new co-hosts and content, as Jackie embarks on her journey into motherhood. The mix of pop culture commentary and personal reflections keeps the content relatable and engaging.
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Additional Notes
- Merch and Patreon
- Information about available merchandise and the Toast Patreon is mentioned, promoting further engagement with the audience.
- Upcoming Guests
- Teasers for upcoming guests post-Jackie's leave hint at exciting new dynamics in the podcast.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy thursday that actually i don't know what it feels like but it doesn't feel like i know it's technically like a friday for you it's a friday for me it feels like the last day of camp i'll see you next summer i'm counting the days we've been living 10 months for two and we're gonna be living 10 months for two again it's so true we're breaking i guess it's the last day of school because we are breaking for summer yes so even though it is thursday today is jack's final episode in the studio this week because tomorrow's episode is going to be Ben and I.
0:54It kind of worked out perfectly that the last episode before my maternity leave would be Ben and I. We need to hear from the two of you. Send you off a big farewell. I have a personal matter to attend to tomorrow, so I can't do the toast. But I agree. Like, there's something very full circle about you and Ben saying goodbye, sending off together. Because I'm leaving on maternity. I literally tried to spell maternity, like, on my phone the other day, texting. It's a word that's no longer in my vocabulary because maternity yeah is the current what marion webster needs to update her website the maternity takeover so this is our last episode of pregnant podcasting publicly in person together uh tomorrow you and ben and then we're off next week and then i'll be back with jackson friends after memorial day can you tease one person who's being who's jackson friendzing with you the not the first person no not the first no no i was gonna say the first person but it's not it's just the first person i'm recording oh i was gonna tease i don't know how to tease this but one of the people that I'm recording with you and I have been talking about all morning having nothing to do with the fact that I am recording with her is that yeah oh yeah not us we're gonna find ourselves at the center of a lot of drama maybe over the course of this episode when we talk about the things that interest us you'll understand what we've been talking about all morning just know like this person will be discussed on the toast today and then she also we'll be co-hosting with Jackie next week or the week after next.
2:20Yeah, exactly. So we're making waves. We're kind of at the epicenter of all things pop culture. Nothing new here. Right. So I think that's a really exciting tease. And then I would say the other co-hosts, so interesting. So many people in media, so many different media publications. So many moguls. Two men. Two men. Okay. I know one. Two? You don't know how to mouth. Like, what are you saying? It's three letters oh mogul okay way to give it away yeah two men in media two men in media and then the person that i just discussed it's a four-day week it's a four-day week and then another woman in media in a major way yes wow you kind of have like an amazing setup for your new york week i forgot no i i'm telling you guys i have really cast a wide net i'm so excited to talk to all these folks and it's going to be really great so not to jump the gun and we're going to miss you and we love you and it's maternity yeah no and everyone's going to miss me and they're going to miss me so much yeah you're going to be so missed but you will be so fed vigils will be held in my honor but it's still about you this week and i'm just going to stop talking about what's happening when you're not no i'm thrilled i'm excited for the toasters and all the new guests like that are going to be coming and taking my place and everyone's gonna be like we need more jackson blank you know jackson blank you need more jackson clurd that would also have been a good name for the five weeks without you.
3:43Jackson Blank. Yeah, it's just kind of, it's very open-ended. Yeah, like, I actually love that. You guys can't see, but Rodeo's in the studio today. Do you see him? Make sure, he's not like doing anything bad, right? No, we would hear it. Okay. He's not, you have to trust your boy. I know, but I want him on camera. Oh, he'll make his way. Okay. Make way, make way. The way that I'm on to knew is where you are. Where you are. How are the stories today? We have Summer House Recap, which I almost didn't watch but I watched this morning and I'm glad I did it was kind of a titillating episode and so many people are like flip-flopping sides I was reading the toasters in um like the Facebook group I need to start going to the toast group like I was team Lexi like and now I'm team Jessie now I was team Jessie now I'm team Lexi really I'm feeling more steadfast in my take than ever I know I'm just trying to hold on to the piece of me that likes Jessie at all as a person I left that piece behind this morning yeah no I really and then I saw a clip of him like being caught in a lie on Watch Reppens Live.
4:41I'm like, this person's like a full-blown liar. Damn. Yeah. And we're wearing our new merch. Hope everybody was able to get what they wanted. Jackie and I are wearing two out of the three new t-shirts that we dropped. They are one size. And let me tell you, I have worn them when I was like so skinny. And it looked amazing. And obviously, I'm like a big moose now. And I still look amazing. These shirts are so versatile. You can wear them for any phase of life. They're available at shoptoestmerch.com. In addition to tote bags, hats, phone cases, shoptoestmerch.com. Don't miss it. It's all there.
5:09It's all available. And if it's sold out, it's available for pre-order. So check it out. Check it out. Yeah, I'm glad that we did watch Summer House. We had a successful transfer last night. So I was able to watch my program. Good, good, good, good, good. But then I wanted to watch Watch What Happens Live because I did watch my screener because I watched on my computer. I was too lazy. And I couldn't figure out the hotel TV to get off channel New York 1. So I couldn't watch Watch What Happens Live. New York 1 has a chokehold. Oh, I did watch a Knicks game. That's why I couldn't watch Summer House until this morning.
5:36They lost. Ugh. And it's like the Knicks just need to win one more game. Like just one. And last game, not last night, the one before last, their best player got injured with his Achilles. Like he's out for the season. So it was sort of a layup. But didn't a Celtics player get injured? Isn't a Celtics player out? That's what I said. Oh, you said that. I thought you meant the Knicks. No, like the Knicks were poised to win. Oh, losers. They're coming off of a win. Losers. The best player from the other team. They don't know how to operate as not the underdog. But Ben is so excited because. They're coming back?
6:06They're coming back. and I think I'm gonna go like with him. I think you should go. I think it's kind of crazy to go like nine months pregnant. Well you're a crazy woman. I know. And you love your man. I do. You would do anything for him. I do and I want him to be happy and he was like okay so how much should we spend? He was being so crazy. What's the cap per ticket? Well who are we asking right? He in this situation he is you. Well in most situations he is me. I was like I I was like I don't know oh, like you have to show me, but I'm not spending a lot of money to get a crap seat. Right, you, as much as you don't want to spend a lot of money, you won't sit in a shitty seat.
6:42No, and I was seeing, like a bunch of people I know, like socially were at the game, and they had like, meh seats. And I, like, they were like, we paid like$4 ,000 for our seats. I'm like, I'm not doing that. You're not, you wouldn't go to$4 ,000 per ticket. No, are you fucking crazy? Would you go to$3 ,000? No. Would you go to$2 ,000?
7:01Now, I don't like talking about money, because obviously this sounds crazy. There are people who can't pay their bills, But yes, for Ben, as a gift for like him being really one of the most amazing husbands anyone could be during the course of this pregnancy, like not a nary a complaint. Well, I do have complaints. Except for the golf and like. Except for the golf and like the mess. Cooking food that you don't want. And the smells. But beyond that, yes, I can commit$5 ,000 total to this gift for Ben. But the thing is, we're going to end up not going because the$5 ,000 is not going to get you to see it.
7:31No, that's not going to get you what you want. Timothy was at the game last night solo sitting courtside. at the Celtics at the Celtics game yeah Kylie didn't go to Boston TD Garden I feel like Kylie went back to the beach she's literally Kristen Cavallari back to the beach I also think she went back to the beach or she's just like posting delayed delayed which I think she also does but I think she went to Turks and Caicos like came to New York to be with Timothy for the night and flew right back and went back to Turks and Caicos with Kendall with Kendall I don't know she's kind of all over the place oh to be a jet setter I know to have a jet to set on I hope she comes back we miss her we do New York felt electric it wasn't the same it's been raining ever since she left New York is crying for Kylie it's true maybe she'll come back for the next game I think she had fun yeah okay well you should go yeah I'm thinking about it I'm thinking it through and even though I love watching games on TV it's so fun I love television yeah if any brands I know that you guys have all been really shy about the hookups um if any brands wants more I will ask you to give Turdy a sweet.
8:34Yeah, fuck the Brunson boys. Maybe they didn't want to do it because like who are these nobodies? But for Turdy. Makes sense. The queen. The queen is coming. Cup down. Cup down. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, okay, what else can I tell you? So last Jackson Claude before we go, like the show will never be this way again because Turdy, you will change. This is the last time we will podcast together as sisters, remote or otherwise, where only one of us is a mother. Yeah. And how does that make you feel? You feel like I'm encouraging a little bit on your mama space? Not at all. I'm excited for you to be here because then we get to talk about those sorts of things more, which I love, you know, but it's like, I can only like sneak it in here and there when you're not interested.
9:19It's not like, it just doesn't work that way. So I'm excited to dive more into that space with you and to hear your takes on it. I think everybody is so excited to hear your takes on it. Yeah, I feel like I'm definitely thinking through a lot now, like what my digital footprint, my identity is going to look like as like a content creator, podcaster, comedian, influencer, who's now a mom. Obviously, like it can take over your whole being. And I'm not really like wanting to do that. I think sometimes like you can't control it, right? And I feel like I've talked about like other people who I think do a good job of like balancing both.
9:52Like I don't want, I don't want to be like, like everybody's like, oh, all she does is talk about like being a mom. But I also don't want to be the one person that's like, why don't you ever talk about being a mom, you know? it's like a balance obviously women are so critical of other women so i'm looking forward to everybody critiquing me for like how i embrace this new era of my life um i don't have a chip on my shoulder about it or anything but we'll see we'll see how it goes i think you should just let nature take its course don't overthink it i think it will come really natural to you whatever the path is yeah you know what i mean i don't think you have to make a plan i think should i pack a snack well always always that's kind of the cornerstone of motherhood yeah and you're probably going to be hungry but I think it will be a natural next step for you I do and you shouldn't you shouldn't worry so no no no I feel like also at this stage of pregnancy like you're so bored like all you do is worry about things that are like are not real issues yeah like I'm I was so worried about my junk drawer I don't know if you saw that kind of like re I organized my junk drawer which was a big moment in my house um and the way that like that junk drawer weighed on me for like a week you know you just like you have nothing to do but just like worry about stuff I understand and when you're pregnant without other kids yeah yeah yeah obviously when you're pregnant like with a toddler like you're no i know i like brought out my keyboard from the cellar and started to practicing piano in my last few weeks you did yeah it was so bored i wasn't leaving the house also because of covid uh-huh and um that's funny when you said keyboard i thought like a dell computer keyboard no i brought my piano keyboard i got it for zach for his birthday years like when we started dating and i was watching so much tv in my pregnancy and like I couldn't watch anymore like I was sick of everything sick of laying there I was like I want to use my brain now so I brought up the keyboard I'm dying I learned arabesque okay yeah I got some coloring books that was good that was when I wrote the first draft of Camber and counselor oh that's a beautiful full circle story Jax right yeah it's available on Amazon now I wrote the first draft when I was in my final weeks of pregnancy maybe a children's book is waiting to pour out of you this week.
11:48I already have one. It goes like this. There once was a girl named Turdy. I thought you were going to say. She was really flirty. I thought you were going to say it's the first day of camp. My bags are tightly packed. I would have except I could not remember how the book started. Thank you. It's the first day of camp. My bags are tightly packed. My duffel trunk and pillow are all neatly stacked. We bump and we bend up curves bends and hills. The winding camp roads gives me goosebumps and chills. No the fact that people continue to write cheer uh children's books when the best one ever has already been written like seriously lay down your pencils it's so it's not necessary we've got this it's so true and if there are any toasters out there who don't know that claudia and i are sisters were sisters um and daisy jones and the six ends with her um after everyone's died getting back together with him and i wrote a children's book and it's loosely based off of our own life the main character is inspired by it's a biography it's autobiographical semi it's semi-autobiographical and the main character is um based loosely off of one of jackie's sisters who is not me which is low-key one of the most disgusting parts but we'll just like yeah because i know that the sequel is about a camper named trudy yeah it's such a cute name for a little like and the camper's obviously like chubby like trudy she's just like coming in and she's coming in second summer and so it's a different dynamic Right.
13:12How will things shake out? Our camper is always there. Right. To be a supportive friend. And the camper and the counselor, in the book, the counselor's name is Counselor Snitch. What is the camper's name? It's a great mystery. Oh, she's nameless. She's nameless in the book, but I know her name. Because she, well, I like that she's nameless because she kind of represents all women. She's all of us. Yeah, but you know her name. Are you going to share it? Maybe in a future book. Oh, Secrets Revealed. But I think you guys could guess her name. Jackie? is it jackie she has red hair it's jacks yeah okay it's jacks and trudy jacks and trudy trudy and jacks they're a great duo in the kids space correct kind of picking up where max and ruby left off that's like a little bit of the plot of the sequel i don't want to give too much away it has not been written yet maybe towards the end of this pregnancy inspiration will strike The rest is still unwritten.
14:09Hot take, I'm so fucking over that song. No, she can do no wrong, Natasha. I didn't say I was over Natasha. I said I was over the song. This song can never be bad. The second wave of younger people finding it and older people reliving. I've hated every minute of it, and I want the song to be done. Every time I hear it in an organic way, like if it came on my shuffle or something, I'm thrilled to hear it. For me, maybe it's a constant reminder that not us, but society, excluding us, let Natasha Bedingfield down. And they like forced her to just keep performing this same old song as if she doesn't have other music that is so unbelievable.
14:45They told me, girl, to get your way. You gotta be a bitch. Nah. They say the guy won't get the girl if he's not filthy rich. You stop with little changes till you don't know who you are. Surround yourself with friends who only call you a superstar. Oh, yeah. Those bitches will never know. What's that album called? Recovery. we will recover like but i just want to circle back to when i hear unwritten i think of just the the lost potential but i want to circle back to something that you said in your diatribe which was that it was not us no it was not us we are responsible for all the streams you guys didn't no okay you guys didn't i we are excluded from that narrative but you know else is excluded from that narrative i wonder if you're gonna know what i say like supporting Natasha Bedingfield's other work outside of Unwritten.
15:40You're not going to know. No, I am. It's like a niche me reference. I am, I am. Yeah, it's a person whose name we don't know. What do you mean? My favorite movie of all time. Like, do you know what I want to say? Not the other woman. No, close though. Something Borrowed. And they used the song. They end the film. Like, finally, she steals her, spoiler alert, she steals her best friend's man. She's picking up his dry cleaning. Like, her and the friend are never going to be okay, but she got the guy and she don't give a fuck you know um and she's picking up a dry cleaning it's like a perfect day in new york and they're walking away and it's like i have to keep reminding myself i'm not like anyone else so the person who scored something borrowed jacks and claude are not responsible for holding natasha beddingfield back from reaching her fullest potential but now she's out here just like making tiktoks to the same song and it's ashamed of yourselves you should be ashamed also like if you want to knock on her songs that are overplayed like i would go more Pocket Full of Sunshine.
16:33I would not. I think Unwritten is pargelicious no matter how many times I hear it. Pocket Full of Sunshine is more annoying. Agree to disagree. You like Pocket Full of Sunshine more than Unwritten? It doesn't attack me. I actually didn't, when you were saying her other songs, I'm like, what song is she talking about? I literally forgot about Pocket Full of Sunshine. You're thinking of it from the movie. Weezy A. No, no, no. Actually, no. I just feel like when I see that on TikTok or on Reels, scroll, scroll. I never see it. If I, and also, So someone did like a couple remixes of Unwritten? Yeah.
17:04No, they've been. With Unreels? They're resuscitating Unwritten. I'm here for it. I'm over it. And that's the kind of duality and complexity you can come to expect from the Toast podcast. But maybe when you're changed, the next time we podcast together on the Toast, we'll agree on that. Maybe. Maybe. Because you're going to be so changed. So changed. She's changed for the better. First smile that's never. Today's a Toast Tunes kind of day. I mean, we have to get it all out now, even though we are recording a Patreon after this, so it's technically not our last episode together. It's true. Oh, and next week there's Patreon episodes every day.
17:38Every day. So if you're missing your girls, head over to patreon.com slash the toast because we've been working overtime to keep you fed. Yeah. And keep you satiated. Yeah, so it's Jackson Claude every episode. So like if you're a Patreon member for the next two, three months, like you're completely fine. You're completely fine. Like every time you're missing us, there will be a Patreon for you. And we've been like putting in work overtime to make sure that the scheduled content gets released. So that's patreon.com slash a toast. But this is our last pre-fast five banter where we're so different from one another and we are the people that we are because I'm also going to expand my role as an auntie and I don't know how that's going to change me.
18:12Oh, let me lock my iPad. I'm so glad you brought that up. I haven't been a new auntie in two and a half years. Well, I did want to talk about that because obviously everyone knows like when you look up auntie in the Webster's dictionary, like my face is there. I've been like one of the most committed, devoted, and really hardworking aunties this world has ever seen. And I just want to say before I had kids, I was the number one auntie. And so that era of my life, I don't know if you've talked to your kids about it, like is going to change. Auntie Coaches is not going to be the Coaches that you know.
18:43Right, which is why I've been like making plans. Like I took the kids swimming. Like I just want them to know like auntie's leaving and she's coming back, but not in the way that they've grown accustomed to. And do you think that will be a difficult adjustment for all my nibblings? Well, here's the beautiful thing about the circle of life. Because while they are losing a bit of their auntie, they are gaining a cousin. Yeah. And like, it's like, I don't think Mikayla even noticed that I was slipping. That I was slipping because I gave her a cousin. You gave her a friend, yeah. And that was even better than what I was doing.
19:20So I think they're going to be so excited about the new addition that they're not even going to notice that Koges hasn't slept. I don't know. Koges is tired. I think Koges' like presence is so almighty. Like, yes, I'm giving them a cousin, sure. But like, I don't know. I think that they'll, like, if you notice any behavioral issues or any differences in their moods or scheduling, like, I would say, like, there's a major change happening in their life. Auntie Koges is kind of taking a step back. Well, I would say for Charlie, it's going to be the biggest change for him because he won't be the baby anymore.
19:52But he had the longest run as the baby. Yeah, chasing after those kids. So I'm excited for him that he doesn't have to, like, that he's not the youngest anymore. But, like, I think he loves being the baby. Well, you know, it's interesting how people act when they're on bottom and then they're on top. Do you think Charlie will be a benevolent leader? I think so. Me too. I think so. He's seen a lot in his time. You don't think he'll be like a Sheena Marie Shea, like, finally gets accepted to the cool crew and, like, turns on the ones that brought him there? No, Charlie has seen a lot. He's seen a lot of different ways of it being done.
20:22And I think he knows what he wants to model. And I think that's good boy behavior. Got it. So not Charlie Shea. No, he'll be modeling good boy behavior. Trust me. GBB. If not, come tell his mama. Oh, you know I will. No, but they're going to be so excited. No, it's so exciting. Just, you know, I'm like being annoyingly like, this is my last, you know, like. I feel like if we don't, it's weird. No, no, not even with the podcast, like at home too. I'm like, Ben, like this is our like last whatever. I'm like. Taco Tuesday. right I'm being so dramatic even though like I low-key still have time left like I need to chill you might have another taco Tuesday most likely even though taco Tuesdays really do give me really bad acid reflux so I actually can't um but I'm just being so dramatic I'm like do you think this is our last time in the car like now we'll be driving to the hospital like I'm really being so like commemorative I feel like if we aren't commemorative on this episode like it will be weird and it will pass us by and we'll be like oh my god that was kind of like a major one and yeah everyone else is gonna be like oh my god last Jackson Cloud and like I feel like we really need to be present in this moment even though that's so not like us sounds like you're saying we need to acknowledge the space that we're in we do need to acknowledge the space that we're in consider it acknowledged and like do a little manifestation of the manifest okay you know what i mean i have a really hard time like being present present i don't think manifest is the right word no no it's not but i do think manifesting more would help me be more present Oh, perhaps if you started, that was like a practice in your everyday life.
21:53Because it's like I'm saying all these things about how it's the last one, but like. Are you living that? No, she's not. It's just any other day. She's so inauthentic. No, I'm trying. Like, I feel like if you speak it, you will be it. Okay. So it's better than not commemorating anything. Do you feel like it's the last one? I can tell you recently hung out with Lauren Bostick. Oh, my God. Well, thanks for spoiling my guest. Oh. It's fine. Wait. Yeah. is she your guest for when who knows okay sorry my bad but that's not who we were talking about at the beginning of the show um yes i've been hanging out with lauren bostic um okay once once yeah but we text too okay um and we're both not big texters so it's like it's all the radiation the fact that we like do it for each other right right you take that risk that's really sweet we take that that's huge huge but yeah I'm trying to be present like I don't know what more to tell you and I feel like you're not present but you're not trying to be more so it's not an issue right if I knew what on earth we were talking about like I would be able to respond to that heinous accusation of me not being present I don't know I just feel like it's like when like we should be so much more like aware that it's the last right but I don't feel it in my bones I'm just like I know it in my head like I seriously I can't follow this conversation correct okay fine you got me I'm not present does it feel like the last you like do you really feel it's not my last I have to work tomorrow is it last with you no because there's something about podcasting in person especially in this new studio like this isn't real I and I know these episodes have actually been performing so well like numbers wise people love when we're together um i feel like every day three people are listening i'm like i don't even like these episodes feel fake every time we put out our regular episode it's like oh my god everyone's gonna listen and critique and it's like very high stakes these feel like we're cosplaying podcasters i don't know why in our room like like giggling yeah making videos on facebook in the box to go to legacy box one day i agree so that's why i'm just like maybe that's why i'm feeling present well your presence is a gift true always eternally one that we will miss oh yeah she's kicking me out already because if we're being present in this moment it is our last episode together and can I tell you something that I find really exciting about maternity leave like obviously I'm gonna miss everyone so much but as like the nosiest bitch alive what I loved about your maternity leaves is that I invited all these people to come co-host and they are people with successful YouTube channels successful podcasts successful businesses and like everybody online like makes themselves seem so big deal big deal I'm so famous I have so many fans followers and it's interesting to see who comes on the podcast like increases numbers you know who actually like has fans not just like followers um and so like I was nosy and like literally one of my favorite activities was like tallying up the numbers at the end of the week and I feel like I said before who crushed it but like honestly Shannon Shannon brings brings peeps brings peeps and then you would have someone who was like a huge podcast and you're like oh maybe that's a huge because everyone's on vacation right um so it's like a fun like if you're a nosy curious person like me well that will be there for you to run the data on the various media moguls yeah no when i have like a nap break i'll be running the data yeah you can find me in our analytics department it's really not that hard but yeah yeah yeah so now without further ado are you ready to wrap up the final fast five of jackson claude as we are I am.
25:22Jackson Claude as we are. Without further ado, ado, ado, ado, it is time for the Fast Five Stories that You Need to Know. And the Fast Five Stories that You Need to Know are brought to you by Hulu and The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives because today is the day. So the tea is, there is tea to spill and we are here for it. The wait for more episodes of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is over. The new season is now streaming on Hulu. And I just want to say thank you to Hulu for giving us all the episodes. Like not making us wait, not inventing binge culture and then taking it away from us. Like we are really grateful.
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30:23It's in the sun, so could be that. Correct, okay. But apparently Prince Harry and Meghan are secretly supporting Brooklyn and Nicola amid their family row and had them over for dinner last week. The foursome dined at the Sussexes in Montecito just days after Brooklyn skipped his dad's 50th birthday. A source familiar with the event said Harry and Meghan were very empathetic and very kind to them both. Harry was fully aware of the situation and offered Brooklyn his unwavering support as someone who has been through similar. Okay, so the headline was a little misleading. sounded like they took like a trip to a castle and like so they had dinner together and you know what i actually think that's entirely possible especially because like i could see because we know david is like a huge monarchist he literally was like one of those people who waited in line for seven hours to touch the queen's casket i guess they like leave the casket out in some yeah like as a rando not even as a he didn't use his special treatment and he cried he was like taking pictures with people so he obviously is like team royal and so i could see as like an extra knife to like his family him and Nicola having dinner with like Harry and Megan who are like these you know royal outsiders 1000 percent I just want to say if this is true and we have to like operate as if it is for the sake of conversation this is the worst idea I've ever heard for Brooklyn and Nicola like to go to like be on the outs with your family and then go seek advice from people who actually like burned theirs to the ground like do not be like these people no Maybe that's what they, like maybe they're looking to go no contact.
31:47No, no, no. Which a lot of people do. Stop it. Turn around. Which is what a lot of people do with like in-laws they deem to be toxic. No. And Harry and Meghan have sort of paved the way. I'm sorry. Plenty of people have in-laws they deem to be toxic and they don't take it to the level that Harry and Meghan did. No, no, of course not. But it is like a popular thing now. It's like more like TikTok. I know you don't know. But it's like if something in your life, like a person in your life doesn't serve you, we're going no contact, right? That's fine. I'm fine with no contact. what Harry and Meghan did was not no contact it was a lot of contact it was a lot of a lot I thought the story you were going to talk about is that they went to another concert it was going to be my next part like be because them going to another concert like isn't headline news except that he was wearing a hat and we'll get to it but I just need to say to Brooklyn and Nicola like you're hanging out with the wrong people like you should either be just taking a break from your family that's fine they're toxic and narcissistic allegedly so yeah you want a break but like to go get seek advice from these two this is what they are what not to do they are how not to break from your family I'm in agreement there is a way to like obviously I'm always on the side of like we have to make things work family is family sometimes you get to a point where like you can't with a certain family member um and so Harry and Meghan obviously got to that point and I think the way they did it was not the best and so if if Brooklyn and Nicola are looking to go no contact with the Beckhams which would make me so upset like that's not what I want I don't know if like they're being you know led by the greatest of leaders they can go no contact i i would endorse that because it's not working and they really tried they they for the last year they support they were at everything like i can say they really gave it their all and if you want to take a break from them and not speak to them that's fine with me don't do what those two did and do not take advice from them or it's just like fancy british people having dinner why would nicola she's like so gorgeous so young you know so why does she want to go eat dinner with some 40 year olds and their kids yeah they are like in complete different life stages different ages i don't know how these four would get together might be interested in having dinner with harry like he's a prince of the country a bunch of expats yeah but i'm sorry nicola like what is she doing there correct i'm sorry i think this is really a horrible idea and i hope it's false but i also if it is false i just want to give credit to the person who made it up it's funny because it's fucking historical well they did also go to a concert they saw james taylor which um is like seriously ben's favorite artist i've seen fire and i've seen rain what a versatile um taste in music they have like i wonder if like we know megan loves beyonce maybe harry loves james taylor like because like i don't know anybody who's like a big james taylor and beyonce fan they're entirely different generations and genres no i feel like that's the bridge that they like straddle in their age bracket i don't know why i'm making them to seem so old today yeah but they are like you know adults yeah you have like 40s taste and some of it is like the young cool stuff and also like megan is a friend of beyonce's yes i think megan loves being famous and i that's a part of her like i actually really relate to in the same way how she had to like tell everyone in her caption like thanks beyonce and team for having us like she wants everyone to like bitch i'm famous I'm connected I can get seats at whatever if you know events you can't get seats at so I actually really relate to her in that way um I don't know if James Taylor tickets are particularly hard to come by or backstage passes I'm sure he was thrilled to meet them but obviously the headline here is the fact that Harry's at another concert wearing another hat now and not only is it like obviously pointing to some sort of hair situation he also has bad taste in hats this one's like a real emo beanie that I feel like the men on the hills used to wear you know well I don't like his outfit either like if we're just criticizing his style I don't like him if we're just criticizing his persona it's not as if the hat ruins an otherwise fab outfit so I think all together it works because it's a bunch of weird stuff put together I mean well the thing is with hair plugs when your situation was so dire for so many years like we're gonna know so you don't like I know that when you get hair plugs or I don't know what the right word is these days a transplant for the first couple of weeks you have like sprouts on your forehead it's like buzz well yes but you also like it's a little bloody and it's like it's so obvious so you you do have to cover it up if you leave the house so it could be that he's in the covering up stage I don't know why they insist on doing public events I leave the house because they never leave the house pictures they we never they never post pictures yeah but also like if he were to come out and have a full head of hair in six months like that would be like me coming out with red hair like it's obviously a change so well maybe he'll come out and he'll be open about his struggles that's kind of his mo i think that would be like one of the best things he could possibly do for himself and his brand would you give him a chance yes if he said like i've been struggling with hair loss and we know even started like a a hair loss platform like how he's very big in the mental health space like a Rogaine or you mean like a better help like a yeah like a telehealth for hair health oh he's totally an investor in like hymns because you know that company like you can get like Rogaine or minoxidil telehealth for hair health that's actually I think it's actually a good idea he would be a great spokesperson because obviously he walks the walk and the mental health space is so crowded at this point and I think his company can't even play her employees wait did you see um what you just reminded me it's kind of how like oh we talked about it on the toast how Amy Schumer is an investor in that telehealth company that helps women with like weight loss drugs and she was like I had the best experience I invested in this company and yeah I'm on Manjaro obsessed and it's like an endorsement for the telehealth company that's definitely a possibility and that would actually be a good business move for Harry so here's the I don't think it's what's happening I don't think it's a possibility but I think it's what should happen and maybe even if he went to Turkey and he had no plans of being open about it maybe this will reach him and just let him know like I think there's money here and I like how saying like going to Turkey is obviously it's now code for like getting hair transplants and I think if you have unlimited resources you don't do it outside you don't need to go to Turkey like Turkey is just for like regular folk who want access to like really top tier medical care at a much more affordable price but like there are amazing people in the states they're just incredibly pricey I think I've not heard of them I don't think Harry would need to go to Turkey like I know a couple of people who've gotten hair plugs like wealthy men and they did in america that you know that yeah okay you do who um hit me with the okay
38:16no i'll just text it to you okay it's just to just and not to be annoying like it is juicy Is it a famous person? A little bit. Okay. Oh, that's juicy. And then this one.
38:32Juicy. And they were all done in America. Wow. Stateside plug. Okay, so he didn't have to go to Turkey. That's also good. That's what I'm saying. You don't actually have to travel unless you're just looking for a deal. A good hair plug at a good price. Right, because what you get for the price in Turkey, you would seriously have to go to Mexico for here and like get risk infection you know like one of those turn yeah they do a nice job there and the medical care is like so luxurious they like the cost of your procedure includes your flights includes like luxury recovery suites hotels for your family like it's really I watched Darcy and Stacey I know you don't know who that is it's a TLC show um and they went to Turkey to get like completely new faces and they took us on the journey so I know a lot about Turkey got it i saw a girl once go to turkey for medical care for like a no job no she just like wanted to run all those expensive tests on herself oh a medical workup yeah yeah a medical workup also they're i think known for their teeth as well are you ready for our next story rihanna will release her first song in three years for the smurf soundtrack so rihanna shared the news along with a trailer for the film on wednesday which also features snippets of the song but her new song is called friend of mine it will drop tomorrow as part of the soundtrack for the smurfs movie which is starring john goodman james corden nick oferman and sandra oh i think a lot of people like weren't expecting this um finally getting music from rihanna and i just seen this all before we panic to remember some of the best songs ever made have come from the troll soundtrack i got that sunshine in my pocket got that good song in my feet we hate justin timberlake but we love that song also it's broken and it's beautiful by kelly clarkson well that's and that's just trolls every animated movie worth its salt these days has an original song that's fucking popping oscar worthy i think i'm not worried for one second the fact that actually this is for the smurfs i think i might like it more than if she was just like dropping a song rogue single yeah it's called friend of mine i think the vibes are gonna be good the message is gonna be good and that's like the cool thing about being a billionaire like not from music like from her own business is like with the music she can do make choices that feel right to her obviously she's in like her mom era yeah her kids are gonna want to watch this and that's mom's song yeah how cute yeah and it's like maybe they weren't listening to her and but they only listen to the smurfs and so she's gonna get inside the tv and be like clean your room it's literally josie and the pussycats a little messaging in the music it is i love celebrities who become parents and then give back to the community with pargy content like fallout boy doing the spidey soundtrack like it's just really fun for everyone it's really crazy because it's like 10 years in the making waiting for a rihanna song um i have no doubt that it's going to be good one because it's rihanna and two like something about the troll soundtrack in particular like why do you keep saying trolls is it not trolls no it's smurfs well that's why i keep saying okay i thought you just said it once to like just say that Trolls has good music.
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41:36Oh, I'm so sorry. Okay, okay. I obviously got my caricatures confused. Your six-letter movie name. I thought she was releasing on the Trolls soundtrack. I'm like, well, the track record of Trolls songs going number one, the proof is there. Got it, okay. I know less about the Smurfs discography. I apologize. It's okay. Well, now we're gonna know more. Yeah. So I'm excited. We'll see it. We'll hear it tomorrow. maybe you and Ben could do a little live listen interpretive dance to a friend of mine by Rihanna you got it clap them cheeks from the forthcoming Smurf soundtrack are you ready for our next story speaking of music word on the street Justin Bieber owes his former manager Scooter Braun millions of dollars for a tour loan so this is very interesting because Justin still owes his former manager Scooter millions of dollars despite parting ways with him nearly two years ago an independent audit conducted by price waterhouse coopers and why like who put them up to this no i thought it was tmz based on the way that i read it but no i think once price waterhouse cooper is involved yes someone like the government like who's auditing well so here's like the story so this accounting firm firm pwc that's what you guys know them from the oscars they do all like the tallying yeah after ernst and young got fired after uh moonlight gate right so over a period of six months found that justin owes scooter more than eight million dollars per documents obtained by tmz yesterday the audit was reportedly completed in april source tells page six the money owed stems from a loan that scooter made to justin over debt accrued during his canceled tour in 2022 his justice tour you guys remember he started that tour justin canceled the justice tour in the middle of the tour but he had gotten an advance from the tour production of live nation yeah whichever one it was and he had to pay it back and he couldn't pay it back and scooter lent him the money in a tough time and they say he couldn't pay it back because um he is while yes incredibly successful especially for a musician i think at one point his net worth was like somewhere around 300 million dollars um he was spending and um he also had a bad business manager like he like he it is believed that he completely tore through his 300 million dollars yeah he sold his music catalog for 200 million dollars in 2022.
43:51So we talked about that and we were like that's kind of weird it's a little early to sell your music and now it seems like in the timeline of events that's being painted is that he was pretty much broke. Yeah TMZ reported last October that Justin was considering suing his financial managers for allegedly squandering 300 million dollars of his fortune. An insider told page six exclusively at the time though that his spending habits were to blame because they were out of control. He spends an eye-watering amount per month at one point he couldn't even get a credit card they said. Justin is surrounded by a lot of people that do not have his best interests at heart yeah i believe that especially when you think about like how young he was with so much money and how many like people around him just like wanting a piece of that and then the scooter brawn of it all makes sense because his sort of breakup with justin bieber was like the biggest deal ever um scooter brawn did go on to like sell his company to a japanese company for like almost a billion dollars so i feel like the eight million like he could live without like maybe we just call a spade a spade it's like if you lent your friend eight hundred dollars and they were going through a hard time and then like you end up winning the lottery or something just like leave it alone yeah I don't know if Scooter is trying to get the money back but I think Justin has like been saying and even trying to prove that like his teams and people around him stole from him and it's like actually no Scooter gave you money well actually it could have been both because it sounds like he did have like poor business managers and well yeah but to protect him from himself well that's the other thing I worry about because you know they say road is valued at almost a billion dollars now and I did see on TikTok so I take this with a grain of salt that they're shopping it around to like hopefully get bought um it's incredibly successful and so while I love that for her I do hope she you know protects her what's hers I'm sure that she will I'm sure she's the only one who has control of the credit cards good and maybe he could do what he wants with his money but certainly not with hers especially now that she's a mom like I don't think she would play she knows what she's doing yeah um TMZ's report on Wednesday also claimed that his business manager Lou Taylor found the 20 million figure to be an accurate and claimed that actually Scooter had been overpaid in commissions by 26 million dollars.
45:48So Lou Taylor is somehow involved if you guys remember her name she was a kind of a bad faith actor in the whole Britney Spears conservatorship situation. Then Scooter's company Hybe conducted its own audit and found he was actually owed a million dollars but reportedly waived that amount. okay so per tmz justin reportedly felt that scooter's audit was done corruptly which led to hype hiring pwc for the audit which resulted in the grammy winner actually owing eight million dollars oh okay well you know what i'm then inclined to believe price waterhouse cooper because they were hired by scooter and their results don't help scooter no they're the result he was trying to show hey owes eight million yeah no he was trying to show no actually you owe me a million dollars i didn't steal from you and then they come in and actually you're owed eight million Got it, got it.
46:34Yeah, well, if anybody wants to loan me$8 million, I am available, so. Will you pay it back? No. No, no, no. No. It's, no, but that's just a loan. How about, no. That's just a loan, more so as a gift. A gift, I agree. Which, it has been a gift in Scooter's case. I do think, like, Justin has really squandered his own. Fortune. Fortune. I agree. I'm sure people around him are enabling him. I'm sure they're spending his money. but he is there as well and like they take advantage of him and he doesn't help himself personal accountability is important i agree right as long as like hayley and and jack are you know covered are yeah jack's college fund is intact yeah well that's road correct but it's crazy when we talk about justin being like this just like totally down on his luck broke individual we've seen videos i want to say an allergic drug addict right but that's like hailey's husband i know it feels like two different people yeah and it's funny how we we keep talking like hailey's a mother like we keep saying that and like i forget justin's a father too you know yeah but the videos of him in the last few weeks are really bad yeah but they seem fine claudia but she keeps like she's posted she seems fine yeah yeah yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know but i think that we cannot begin to understand i agree that world no you know i found something really interesting totally separately because a lot of people think like justin bieber somehow involved in the diddy case and that's not what i'm saying but it just reminded me of diddy um because i've ended up on diddy talk and i'm glad because it like it needs to be widely distributed but you know that cassie long after they had broken up filed a civil suit against him and they settled out of court she got 30 million dollars from him and a part of that is obviously signing an nda she wasn't allowed to ever speak but because this is a federal indictment like civil suit NDAs don't apply so she not only got her 30 million dollars but she also got to speak her truth love that love that for her you love to see women in business when people say Justin's a part of the Diddy case like not the case necessarily like he just is a like people think he might have been one of his victims right just given the timing um Justin's age at the time um people he was hanging out with there's I'm sure like there's conspiracy theories with more proof but that's pretty much but when we say other people would be part of the diddy case it would be like they were accessories attending the freak-offs yeah no i meant justin as a victim and that's why he's currently having this like public britney moment because it's a deeply hurtful part of his past there's no proof of that but it's just a connection people are making i don't think that it's so far-fetched me neither but it's important to remember that he would be like a very tragic victim of what happened.
49:20Correct. So that's really sad. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Is it about Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively, and Taylor Swift? No, but it could be because I honestly don't want to talk about what I had chosen. Oh, great. I was just like honestly overwhelmed when I saw. I know the Blake Lively thing yesterday. And then like Salma Hayek was at dinner with Blake last night. Did you not see that? Salma Hayek? My girl? Watch. Even though I'm on Sal Talk? You're on Sal Talk. Oh, I did not hear that. Okay, can you explain? I can. Thank you. So some documents were published by Justin Baldoni's lawyers yesterday, and obviously people read them, and they were referencing Taylor Swift, so immediately people, you know, did their thing.
50:00And essentially, he submitted documents and is alleging that Blake Lively, when the scandal started blowing up, not only, like, extorted Taylor Swift, but, like, threatened and blackmailed her. Basically, the lawyers alleging that they have a really legitimate source that said Blake Lively
50:20asked, threatened, asked Taylor to speak out on her behalf while everyone was coming for Taylor, excuse me, for Blake. And if she didn't, then threaten to release personal text messages from the last 10 years of their personal friendship. That's what's being alleged. And it's apparently this really legitimate source who knows this stuff. um so then their text messages could be subpoenaed right and so Taylor then was subpoenaed earlier this week her team released a statement being like she didn't work on the movie she didn't work on the score yeah they licensed her song my tears were in shape with the trailer but like she was busy being on one of the biggest world tours like this has nothing to do with me please excuse me from this narrative so it's gotten really messy with Taylor and I think anytime like I think it's a strategic thing because anytime Taylor gets brought up this the lawsuit gets brought up again in a major way on this show on this show in a major way and it's really always in favor of Justin Beltone because even though at first I really didn't believe any of the things they were saying about Taylor and Blake like these two have not been spotted together in a really long time so I don't know what's true and at first I was like there's literally no way there's no way but if Blake did like even remotely threaten Taylor like Taylor's out oh I was gonna say where are you then where am I oh I don't know that would that's such crazy behavior how does this affect turdy is anybody asking these questions I don't know I don't know because this whole time I've really felt like so much of the Taylor rhetoric is like blown up like what the fuck does this have to do with Taylor Swift and I'm sorry I just never took Taylor as like one of those friends they have painted it up until this point that Taylor like is staying away from Blake because she doesn't want like the stain of a you know a scandal on her record and I'm like that's really lame like your friend is your friend and I didn't believe Taylor to be that type of person but now it seems like she's just mad at Blake for doing something to her like that's different than like you know is uh what's the word I'm looking for and distancing distancing yourself from a friend who's like having a public scandal you could be mad at someone yeah no I'm like if you're distancing your friend from having a public scandal like you've had public scandals that's really lame of you Taylor I never thought that that was the truth I didn't think so now it seems like she has a legitimate gripe and I'm like well if that's the case but this is all coming from Justin Baldoni like what do we know the thing is we will know if these two are never spotted together ever again like something happened yeah but Blake has been taking time off from like public events Taylor hasn't been seen in a couple of months I'm sorry no Blake's been everywhere sorry I guess that's true it's everywhere she's at Salma dinner last night she's at the time gallery only recently stood up and talked only recently I feel like she's doing simple favor press her and Taylor's um like blackout dates didn't overlap like Taylor was being really public and Blake was not and then Taylor went you know on vacation I don't know where she's been for the last couple of weeks slash months and Blake did time 100 now like I feel like they fine so if there's a time like Super Bowl or whatever like things that they would be doing together that they're not doing then I will say something happened okay but if Blake threatened Taylor which I think would be like the seriously the stupidest thing she could do yeah like that's your dragon you want to piss off your dragon they'll burn you my dragon dragon your dragon so like say blake burn taylor where do you stand well obviously i stand with taylor because that's so lame like anyone threatening your personal text messages like as a public figure like your privacy is the only thing you have as a friend but as a friend who like we know like what does taylor value most really her privacy and like the people she keeps close to her and blake has withstood every friend from the last 10 years the girl squad everyone has come and go but Blake has been tried and true and they're so close like with the kids and the music if that's devastating do you think it was Ryan from Blake's phone no that's funny you don't don't you want to blame the man thousand percent and you don't have to deal that was conflicting feelings no no my feelings are as such if Blake did this she's so wrong for that and like I'm team Taylor 100 % Taylor should never be her friend again now being team Taylor mean being team baldoni i don't think it does i'm holding the enemy of your enemy is not your friend i don't think in this case no but again these are all documents allegations being made from justin baldoni yeah and for their part blake's attorney spoke out to deny the claim that justin's attorney made about the actress's friendship with taylor thing is this is very easily deniable go to dinner like i will be settled go you two go to dinner give me a blurry paparazzi picture at a restaurant in philadelphia like go to dinner and we're good yeah this is easy to figure out if it's true or not because taylor would never talk to her again if it was true just to say the letter that they sent to get taylor subpoena said his lawyer said that they have a source who is highly likely to have reliable information alleged to them that there is evidence of lively's lawyers pressuring swift's lawyers Okay, so lawyer to lawyer.
55:14Lawyer to lawyer, not Ryan to Taylor. Ryan to lawyer. Ryan to lawyer to Taylor to lawyer. To release a statement of support for the actress amid the legal saga, if they refused, Lively was willing to leak their text messages in what he called extortionate threats. There is no evidence of the claims yet, but the lawyer said their subpoena seeks to obtain these communications. A legal letter. And by the way, they would have that. Correct. So this to me seems easily provable. in a year and we'll have forgotten him there's so many other things we're waiting on we're like okay we'll just bookmark that for the trial next year no i mean even in this trial like so many he said she said it's like okay juries out until the jury's in in march 2026 so we need to keep a list of things we're waiting for returns i think the taylor one is something we'll remember like this is like remind it's a personal connection please remind us please remind us yeah that's not good before we dive into the fifth and final story and then our long-awaited summer house recap let me letting you know that that is brought to you by Sprit Society, officially a nationwide company.
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1:01:16Max will be changing its name back to HBO Max after two years ago, changing its name from HBO Max to Max. So they started as HBO Go and then they were HBO Now and then they were HBO Max and then they were Max and now they're back to being HBO Max. And I remember when we reported that they were going from HBO Max to Max that that was a mistake because HBO like people die for recognizability like that and while yes Max offers a wide variety of shows that were never on HBO it's most popular for streaming the White Lotus things that are actively on HBO Game of Thrones like I don't know why they ran from it and obviously they don't either because they're going back and normalize like undoing something you know I feel like people they spend so much money on reruns like oh we can't we can't even though it was a mistake like no clearly it was a mistake good on you for like acknowledging it okay i just want to say good on you for nothing fucking stupid this is so stupid that they ever went to max and yes not only that i don't know if you remember this i only remember it because i was cleaning out my apps on my tv recently and i saw it was a different new app yeah they just deleted hbo max they made you download something new are we gonna have to download something new again you're so stupid with your bad shows one more wrong move and everyone's gonna know it's true we already know yeah they're gonna guess what if you make me download one more app i'm not gonna do it that's actually i can live without the white lotus i could live without success we had the blue app and they made us get the purple one and we had the black and i was happy with the black no if they make us redownload another app which i don't know why you can't change your logo without having a whole new app that i didn't even think about that jackie that's a really good point i I want to see heads roll at HBO HQ.
1:03:01I want heads on a spike. I want the name of the person who pushed this through. And I want them pushed out the door. And then I will think about downloading the next app, but not without accountability for all the upheaval you've caused in my life. Well, we just are supposed to applaud them for seeing what a third grader could have seen. Oh my God. It's like a new show. Are you smarter than a max executive? yes i'm cracking up no you're 100 right like normalize you're giving them so much grace and they don't deserve it i am it's textbook textbook and this episode's brought to you by hulu so you guys can eat my ass okay yeah they would never do something so fucking foolish innovative yeah they would never nobody i mean like max could never do something as innovative as sponsoring the toast but i challenge you we have spots available we actually i'll give you an extra 25 seconds if you change you don't make it no we won't we don't give idiots extra 25 seconds it's true oh my god i'm cracking up no you're right not me being so nice like get on you i just feel like sometimes people like make a mistake that's so obvious but like they did it in such a big way they're like well we can't backtrack you know we can't undo this yeah yeah but i feel like they're not even saying like we're sorry right they're just being like ha ha oops yeah they put out a tweet of that morning quote like okay make fun of the girl who you know tried something new it's like no make fun of the idiot who's an idiot make fun of the billion dollar company who couldn't see what as jackie put it so eloquently what a third grader could say make fun of the billion dollar company that can't hire someone with two brain cells damn yeah i'm sorry that was crazy you think you're gonna slip that into the fifth and final i don't think so i don't think so it's such fifth and final story if like fodder though you know uh yeah it's the streaming rebrand it's the elk of the final story the story was made for a thousand streaming news streaming rebrand news streaming and or rebrand news it's true it's true um let's dive into the summer house recap which was last night's episode the final weekend in the house um Lexi just like shows up and she's changed her mind and I live for it and I feel like some people what I had seen people saying which I found really disappointing was like they were so team Lexi up until this point but like last night was like clearly Lexi getting exposed as some sort of liar whereas I had a totally different experience like Lexi's valid in saying like we just had a whole conversation breaking up Sierra didn't come up once you go up to recap with everyone and suddenly it's all about Sierra and then they're parsing out they obviously had a conversation about Sierra this week at the U.S.
1:05:28Open and they are describing it entirely differently and I just want to say for everyone saying like everyone Lexi's so crazy yada yada like Sierra has been like a thorn in their side of their relationship and they're finally doing better and I don't know if they went to the U.S. Open together but like taking pictures with a girl who's not your girlfriend who's like like I think it's still inappropriate behavior on Jessie's part and I know that's like not cool of me to say like well like Sierra didn't do anything no Sierra didn't do anything but like you're obviously in a new relationship you've been accused of being super flirty with this girl and I know you care about your friendship with her but like do you think it's appropriate when you're like in a relationship to be taking pictures and like hanging out solo with a girl who you said you wish you had hit on last summer what's crazy is I agree with you and like that now would be the time to just like have more boundaries between the two of them just because she is like this sticking point that's not even what Lexi said what she said was like literally last weekend she was yelling at you calling you two-faced loser like couldn't give two shits about you she's mean to us and she's been mean to him all summer and that's his best friend and I don't know how that's not a bigger issue between all of them that like everything's about Jesse and CR and it's like wait what about Wes but he's just so happy to not be yelled at that he's not gonna start complaining but so she's like as your partner like this was a person who was mean to you two days ago and then I and it upset you and it hurt you and you said I dislike them and then to see you with them it does make you look like a liar and I'm in protective mode of like we're like we're not about this person right now so then I have to flip a switch because you just did but like that's not how most people operate a thousand percent and so it's either like one of these two people is lying and like their version of the truth is just so different and so I don't know who I'm inclined to believe but it's not Jesse right like this is a person who has been dishonest with Lexi all season long and then last night on Watch What Happens Live like literally he was asked kind of a harmless question um it was like Wes did you feel any type of way seeing Jesse like drunk mad that Lexi was allegedly flirting with you and Jesse was like I never said that and both Andy and Wes were like yeah you did it's literally on camera like we're not mad but like why are you lying like it was such a random thing to lie about that I'm like I'm not inclined to believe you as a truth teller yeah I think that when Lexi and Jesse talk sometimes and I think this happens in a lot of relationships like where she says one thing and he hears another thing so then he tells the group what he heard but that's not what she said and I felt like her reactions last night like really unless she's a complete sociopathic liar in which case I stand no chance against her right we're just victims I'm just watching it and she's like an actress for the ages but her reaction to when Kyle brought up Sierra and she was like wait was genuine she was she wasn't even like putting on she was just confused like what about Sierra like um what does that have to do with anything and then at the table like I felt like nothing that they said she never for one second looked guilty or like oh my god I can't believe you told them what I said caught in some sort of life she didn't right so I'm with her I think she's been more consistent than Jesse I trust her version of events more than Jesse's what I do want to know and I'm sure she could answer the question if I get a chance to ask her is she said over the summer she caught him in a lot of little lies now of course there's togate and Sierra flirtgate but I feel like there were other things during the week other like just little omissions that she had noticed that she's also talking about and I just would like to know like some examples and even whether or not he got a manicure is irrelevant and i don't think she was saying that he didn't get a manicure it was just a feeling she felt when you ask someone a question they tell you something and you can't believe them that's not a person you should be with yep and like now she knows that yep i feel like also people will probably try and make something of the fact that she either should have broken up with him after the season no no no like not like i feel like you could say that it was a little like thirsty so that's what people had said like tv i was team lexi but it seems like she just wanted the relationship to run its course the entire season and the second the show ends on the last weekend she's breaking up with him which no I don't agree with either I don't agree with that I understand why she didn't want to lead him on all weekend and then break up with him next week I also understand why she didn't break up with him on a Thursday like we are doing a show we have been the main storyline and like let's just put it to bed and when everyone is involved in the house sometimes like yeah you don't want to have conversations in front of everyone but like this dinner table conversation needs to happen oh yeah when it's a game of telephone it's like let's all sit down and talk and I can hear what you said about me and you can hear what I think about you no and like Lexi feels so alienated from the girls she blames Jessie for that Jessie feels like um Lexi's a liar and hates Sierra and like Lexi and Sierra like really have never talked this is long overdue and I like that she came in kind of guns blazing like defending herself because it kind of is her against everyone like they there are insides but the girls like Jessie yeah and they like Sierra and if it's turning into Lexi versus Sierra which more and more offline it is like this during the season I think you could say well they are not having no issue but they clearly have an issue there's clearly like this underlying tension and then the rest of the year like it gets bigger and it's gonna blow up at the reunion and she said don't talk about me and all this stuff so I think it all does need to be said out in the open and I think Lexi's handling herself really well for someone who's coming in season one kind of friendless yeah Bailey got so cut out I literally forgot about her she at least she has Lindsay and Gabby but they're not going to speak up to defend her because they have no idea they barely know her but like she's really on an island of her own yeah and I think that she's handling herself well so I feel bad for her I do think that she really liked Jessie and something that people say that bothers me it's like this was always fake they have no where's the chemistry where's I've never seen two people so obsessed with each other like from the minute they met it was like sparks flying agreed I don't I don't agree with a lot of what people are saying like are we watching the same show they can't keep their hands off each other 1000 um the other thing I wanted to say is I felt like everybody was like really being dramatic and not understanding Lindsay's Instagram post at all like I did not think it was weird and like yeah it was this major moment for her she wasn't even talking so much about the breakup she's talking about all the things she's accomplished in the year since and how like a year if you told her you know you're this is the worst day of your life but in a year from now you're gonna be so happy pregnant like literally filling your dreams like everybody Carl's so butthurt like and everybody was like gassing him up like it was weird like it really i didn't think it was so weird people who weren't being like carl about it were just being so shady towards her like amanda like i read your your book yes so shady don't be fucking rude agreed like this is a monumental moment and i don't know like lindsay at this point can do no wrong for me she can do no wrong for me too but also like she is pregnant i do think that she has a she's feeling reflective to have a long instagram caption it's not like she's always been short and sweet and chose today to write a novel like i think she that's the type of social media user that she is she's being reflective like what's and it happened to fall on a friday like i'm sure if it happened on a wednesday she would have she didn't meet like it put to post it an hour before coming into the house but that's how it shook out no and also even when she was like making her speech it wasn't even derogatory towards carl it was like we're both better off like it's good i don't know they were like really looking for something there wasn't anything there yeah like i was like what's the big fucking deal you just let her like be and she let her be she's so funny like i was cracking you're not funny so i'm never gonna be on your side no i mean carl rolling up in his mobile mobile bar excuse me mobile burp yeah yeah i literally burped it wasn't his mobile bar that was like a low for humanity yeah but at least like that truck looks good compared to ten thousand dollars a month for the next they should continue doing the truck yeah it's a nice truck yeah keep the truck go around it's not liquor so you don't need a license it's like a little ice cream truck yeah everyone wants a little refreshment in the summer thousand percent of the spot park it outside of surf lodge here you are claudia here you are that's like me at the beginning of the show trying to manifest and be present be present here you are near and i need to go to soft bar to become present you're kind of like a target demo you don't drink the thing is i'm the target demo and i wouldn't want to go that's a problem you couldn't get jackie within 100 feet of soft bar not even because it's carl's like no i know well for like well yes because it's carl's but also because it's a terrible idea who would i go with who would go with me if i even a minor who can't drink right nobody wants to go there with kids it's true they shouldn't honestly if it's it's a bar because it's soft bar obviously they don't sort of alcohol they shouldn't allow kids in right right it's supposed to be like an adult elevated experience yeah it's very problematic this soft bar to put it mildly yeah um so i think we probably have one more episode next week's the season finale and then the reunion which i've heard was great so it's been a good season and for everyone and also don't forget on the season finale we're gonna get like page and craig oh yeah but for everybody being like enough lexi and jesse like honestly thank you like what the hell would we be talking about kyle sperm like it's the only thing that happened this season like they're the only people who brought it No, it's really true.
1:14:05What would have, maybe someone would have done something. Imrule. It's time to talk to Imrule. I should have him on for Jackson Blank. It would just be a silent episode. But like, I do look forward to hearing from Imrule at the reunion. Like, I do need to, I hope he's not here next season. No, he's not. But we do need to close the book on Imrule. A thousand percent. They cut him out of last week's episode. You know, he was in the house. He was? Yeah. I saw like people putting it together on social media. Like he was fully in the house. Yeah. why cut him out i don't know it's like more work like i literally don't know maybe they didn't want to pay him like he can't be that pricey so true the editor's work was probably more pricey so crazy if they didn't want to pay him oh my god like to me he's up there with benji on the stick of like horrible reality tv that warms my heart yeah like sometimes you just have to like kind to look away or like squint but like it's so bad it's so good it's so bad that it's good that's our summer house recap that's our final pregnant podcasting in public in person together final this era of jackson claude podcasting in this era of this time goodbye goodbye goodbye you were bigger than the whole sky you are more than just a short time this one lasted pretty long this error yeah i got a lot to pine about i've got a lot to think about i'm never gonna meet what could have been would have been what should have been you love ya bye tears tears
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