Original Recipe: Monday, June 16th, 2025

0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast happy monday you guys today is a monday but it's a celebración because we've got claudia ashray kochis woe just turdy lou on the toast welcome and let me tell you it was hard to get a slot like i was like i could come back for a day or two and she was like no actually you can't thankfully i don't know who was supposed to be today but like shannon getting sick like rejiggered last week and yeah so they they made time for me on my own platform how generous yes it all worked out we're so excited that you're here I know people are going to be overjoyed everyone has missed you so much though we're supporting you and we're not rushing you back to work and we support new mamas but we have missed you how are you you know what I'm doing really good the last time I came to podcast which I did my birth story on patreon you guys should check that out if you have any questions about like my journey with the c-section breach baby um I was feeling like you know it was so soon like oh my god I walked here and I was like oh my god like it was like a big scary world i went to new york once in 1981 and i just did not feel safe today i was like okay let's get this bitch back to work like i feel like it's it's doable you know i and maybe today just like everything worked out but like baby is fed i don't even feel guilty people think i feel guilty going back to work like no bitch i'm ready like everybody wants to hear from me it's kind of like you know all the anticipation of me coming back i'm like yeah yeah sorry sorry ruby can't talk to you i gotta go meet my adoring fans um i feel good i feel really good there's also so much going on in pop culture that i need to talk about and i'm dodging love island spoilers like the plague i'm one episode behind i can't watch them live like i have a fucking newborn like them being on at nine o 'clock are you kidding me that's midnight for me so no but it's so good that you're going to sleep before that wake window like i used to go to bed at like the 11 o 'clock after that feeding and then it's so late and ko just prioritizes the early bedtime that's how we started we started going to bed we started going to bed at like the 11 12 window big mistake now we go to bed at 8 30 with the baby it's better obviously every night is different but that means I have to watch love island the next day which is fine because like you know during the day the baby sleeps a lot too so me and Ben are always like Ben calls it love is blind or too hot to handle he cannot remember the name of this show I also don't like that like when I want to text someone about love island I'm not writing out love island so I'm writing lie la usa like l-i-u-s-a there's not a good acronym for because there's also Leuke Leuke Leuke Levala UK um Ben is obsessed I'm obsessed we didn't watch last night because we watch him during the day so I'm gonna give some thoughts same I'm caught up to the same place that you are I did not watch last night because I knew you weren't watching and I I finished catching up at like 11 so I didn't want to watch another episode so let's give our thoughts up until whatever happened last night which seems to have shook the villa now you can't obviously plan when you have a baby and some people like to plan it so that like they you know give birth right before the summer so it's not too hot if you can plan your postpartum around love island i cannot recommend it enough because i imagine it's quite overwhelming to keep up with the episodes when you have like a full-time job a family to take care of like you're just like busy everyday life yeah let me tell you say so postpartum i need three episodes a day like there's not enough and the night where there's not an episode like that next day me and ben just stare at each other that's really funny well i'm excited to talk about it with you because so far everyone i've co-hosted with has not sacrificed their entire life to watch love island so good so if you haven't watched the most recent episode you're safe here okay yeah yeah yeah this is a safe space let's just go couple by couple obviously we have to start off oh you want to do it now you don't want to save it till the end just like because not oh you're right you're right you're right okay fine we'll put the time stamps so that nobody gets spoiled you're right you're right i got i got too excited yes she's too hot in the pants i'm so worried that like i'm not gonna get all my thoughts out on today's episode for like all the things that i think that we're actually gonna do a patreon episode because there's been so much pop culture stuff like aaron rogers is married also our bet like we have to you owe me money i don't owe you money bitch well you make you have to make a donation in my name you say to the beautiful jacqueline osher how much did we say it was for i feel like we said five grand we always say five grand no we that's insane we definitely said one thousand we said ten thousand we said one thousand you're welcome mark can we make a donation to the mark schoenweider foundation for$1 ,800?

4:29Okay. Question mark. And in Jackie's name, question mark. Done. Oh my God. We should make more bets, first of all. And then for stories today, like the celebrities were just celebrating Father's Day yesterday, which we do need to talk about how you celebrities celebrated. But I picked some stories that are like part of things we talked about last week because I need to get your opinion on certain things. Yes, we're going to do like a whole backdate Patreon episode because like I need to talk about Rachel Zoe. Like I need to talk about a lot of things. But yes, I appreciate today doesn't need to be the most like timely topical episode because I need to talk about some things from last week, too.

5:03The only thing that is not in the stories that we did need your opinion on like right this minute is Tariq. Oh, I know. That's my king right there. Like one thing about Tariq, he's consistently aggressive and we love that for him. And you read the details that it was in need of the face. Oh, my God. Let me tell you, like every this is the thing. I have been on to Tariq since the hike. right and he's actually done a really good job of rehabilitating his image with like his content with the old wife and the new wife and he lives in on the joke he wrote his book he talked about the arm type and how we were all deeply misunderstanding it it was for the bears you know i never was fooled now this is just for the proof he's like clearly a crazy person the amount of times i got tagged in like e-news the tiktok instagram i must have gotten dm'd 10 ,000 times.

5:51I love that people associate his violence with dirty. Correct. Obsessed. And just like all is here to say, like, I told you so. Like, that's my consistent king right there. Okay. Yeah. And you appreciate consistency. You know, I do. And especially in this kind of crazy phase of my life, like I really come to appreciate the stable things that I can rely on. And that's Tarek being violent and getting assaulted and arrested for a battery and assault. in Tariq's defense he said that the guy was taunting his elderly father that's the thing with Tariq he always has a very valid excuse like the bears right yeah so maybe that's true maybe that's not that's all I can say yeah no comment you know well I'm glad that we have your official statement on the matter we couldn't put it to bed until we did it's also so Tariq like to have an outburst on my maternity leave well I felt like he thought he could get away with it because Tariq watch went dark for a month but you know i came to work today just to speak on on this issue in particular the substitute teacher is in right he thought school's out for summer and he didn't realize how i'd been influencing young minds about him because the way that like that's a news story like truly who gives a shit about right in the real world thousands of young women were heavily engaged it was probably enews is like most shared post a thousand percent like trending news in the corner of their website because of us.

7:15Yeah. You're welcome, Tariq. Come on the show anytime. What can I say? Yeah. Except. Keeping him relevant. You're welcome. Well, how are you doing? How's new mama life? How's Rue? How's. It's so great. Roe? How's Ben? Yes. Romeo is home. We celebrated Father's Day yesterday. And all Romeo wanted was, all Ben wanted was for Romeo to come home. and that's what he got it let me tell you i had been telling ben that i had been telling ben he might be like overestimating how easy it's going to be like with the walks and romeo's still very much like a puppy ish and ben was like it'll be fine it'll be fine and like it was a little challenging last night was our first night romeo just um like was barking a lot waking the baby like it wasn't it wasn't 100 copacetic and ben i hated to be like ben i told you so and i couldn't be like a bitch because it was father's day but like i told you so you know it wasn't midnight yet no no because we go to bed at eight o 'clock it's good to have him home and you know all the hate i've been getting on the internet has winded down because we didn't rehome romeo he stayed with his grandparents for three weeks and now he's home um it's good i wanted to get in like a nice routine with him before the summer so it's fine um but they say like there's this condition i forget what it's called like postpartum something where you just hate your animal like you just can't and i'm not experiencing that whatsoever i'm just obviously like have different priorities now and i will say i think ben prioritizes the baby and romeo equally and i'm like you need to stop um but it's good romeo's fine he's fine we celebrated father's day ben's first father's day obviously there was a lot of speculation will we celebrate since i didn't get to celebrate mother's day because i gave birth literally one week later straight up said you're not celebrating father's day and we did celebrate father's day we celebrated ben as a father we also celebrated ben's father so it's really nice we had like a bagel brunch and then i got ben like an in-home massage for his birthday which you know he loved and he was like feeling so guilty about it's like you should take it you should take it i almost did my back was killing me breastfeeding his back breaking work yeah i had like i i had the foresight to like weeks ago make this plan for a gift and i wanted to follow through on it and if i if i took it ben would have been fine but he deserved it and he loves massages he's always asking me can we go get a massage he's like we have five minutes free you want to go to the nail salon and get our back rub like Ben's obsessed so it was the right thing to do but it was hard not to take it I can't lie because he really wanted me to and I was like you know what ask me one more time and I'll take it yeah and actually in hindsight we did actually have a really party delicious mother's day because we were together and like you were doing the same thing that like I was doing and that's how I celebrated mother's day so like it wasn't like you had like a a non a bland yeah mother's day like I feel like you were celebrated so to for him to have a little something of course he's been a wonderful partner i wouldn't say that i was celebrated but yeah well every day of tourney's life is a celebration of tourney it's true right i feel like when i came on patreon and did the birth story i was still very much and like they say like there's like this euphoric you're like running on adrenaline postpartum not everyone experiences it but i definitely experienced it newborn bubble like even the things that are hard and that suck like you don't even care you don't see them like i was very much some people have the total opposite where it's like postpartum depression i had definitely like the euphoric state and i'm out of that for sure because it's been like a little bit more real like the nights are getting harder but i'm still like loving every minute um we'll see what like what i say next week but but i do think also sometimes people's postpartum depression like doesn't come until like one or two months like it's not immediate and maybe that's waiting for me no no i'm just saying like you could still have the euphoric bubble but then the crash like might be even harder the euphoric bubble is so real though And like, here's what nobody tells you about having a baby.

10:48Because one of the things I was most excited about was the smell, right? I love the way babies smell. It's just like so delicious. That smell lasts two weeks. I thought that smell lasted like a couple of months. But I was like sniffing. Yeah, with Dreft. And Johnson & Johnson. Yeah, I was literally sniffing behind his ears. Like seriously so creepy. And I'm like, where is the smell? It's gone. Oh, sorry. What you also don't realize is that it's harder for you to smell it on your own baby because like you are part of the smell like you would always come to my house and be like the smell and like I didn't smell it as much as you did because I'm immersed in it so like next time I see the rue oh I mean it's a little short like and I go back I'll smell it I think when I see the rue I'll let you know if you saw what kind of smell he's emanating but like I think you're just too in it okay so don't think that it all is lost well I'm really excited to be back here on the toast talking about the things that I care about.

11:44Like I, Ben has been an amazing teammate in all this. And I like talked to him about like what goes on in the world. Cause I have nobody to talk to. And he does his part. He like pretending to care, but it's nice to be back with people who actually care about the important things in life. Like Aaron Rogers being married. I told him that. And Ben was like, was he not married before? I'm like, no, why would I share that information? Why would I randomly say Aaron Rogers is married? If you've been married for five years. Also that's rude. Cause I feel like that's a topic that you should both be able to share it.

12:09that's why i brought it up shared interest that's why i brought it up okay fucking rude it was actually so rude he was like was he not married before like why would i randomly just be like oh uh jackie osher is married like duh oh lish i'm gonna go easy on lish because um lish deserves our our utmost respect lish deserves ease lish deserves ease lish is an amazing dad partner friend like we knew he would be he sent me his recipe for chicken rocks I crushed them and Lish has been a huge part of my life recently aside from being like my brother-in-law of course the father yeah um because my children are obsessed with the good guys theme song I love that they are always like talking about good guys and bad guys because they love superheroes and sometimes they'll be like I want you know they'll say like I want baseball songs so I just like search baseball on Spotify and play something and they say I want good guy song and I'm like Well, actually, you had uncles on the ones and twos.

13:08And what do they think about the vocals? Do they say that they prefer Josh's parts? They love it. They love the song. And we keep listening to the same episode. And it starts like this. Benny and Joshy. Joshy and Benny. The Knicks are all so bad and this is not good. Benny. And so we have to listen through that part, too. I forgot that their song is not on streaming services like ours is. No. And I could kill them. I'll tell them. I'll tell them to get on it. I did tell Ben but I don't want to push the point because I know he's busy and do you think Ben knows how to do that like okay I guess I should tell Josh because I'm literally like skip going back 15 minutes they also know this is a dear media production I'm cracking up and I literally have to sit there in the passenger seat don't worry I'm not driving it's in Zach's car and go back 15 seconds like four times and we listen to it again but at this point when they do upload it to Spotify I need it to include Benny and Joshy Joshy and Benny and they're all so bad and this is not good and this is a dear media production the following podcast is a dear media hysterical so i have always a warm spot in my heart for ben but he's been a very big part of my life recently i love that my children's number one artist me too literally me too it's gonna be on your spotify well it's not on spotify um oh my number one podcast this year is gonna be good guys oh i hate that yucky things i hate that nothing nothing could you serve the toast actually there's no there's nothing I could listen to more than I listen to the toast it's not statistically possible I actually don't listen to the toast I watch the toast yeah I don't listen to it either but I do go to our page every day to share the link so maybe that counts for something can I tell you my thoughts on Jackie O and friends because I was thinking this last night I wanted to share like because I've been a toaster these last couple of weeks let me tell you how fabulous it is to have a daily podcast with pargy vibes audio and video that comes out every day like I totally get why people are so obsessed with us.

15:00And it's been so fun, obviously, to watch the co-hosts, especially some of the new ones. And I was thinking last night, like I wanted to share who my favorites were. And then I realized like I'm so toxic because both of my favorites are the men. Oh, who? Joey Camaster. Always. And nobody is a bigger fan of Joey Camaster than my father-in-law. He said, I saw Joey Camaster is on the toes. I have to watch that one. I said, yes, you do, Bruce. Did you see Joey was talking about Bruce on the podcast? I forget what he said. Yes. Oh, because Joey's also the son of a chef. Yes, and you know him and Ben Cook together.

15:31Yeah, and he said that he kiki'd with Bruce. I was like, not that kiki with Bruce. Bruce loves Joey. I love that. And Joey's obviously been on before, but not with you. So it was like a new dynamic. And Joey's just like. No, yes with me, but not in forever. Not since Pink Backdrop. You just need to like park him by a microphone and he will make you laugh. Like I just love him. And I honestly, the Chrisley story being his day, I needed to hear his thoughts on Julie and Todd Chrisley, which I also want to talk about in my Patreon episode. So obsessed. And then I also really loved Jared Freed, like fresh, you know, Floridian dynamic.

16:04So not me being toxic and like choosing the two male hosts out of like 15 who are all women, but that those were my faves in case anyone was wondering. Those were so good. I seriously have so much fun with it every single day. I'm also getting to live out like my Jackson Wonderland era because I'm really enjoying the art of podcasting. Like we get to the stories, but not everyone's a pop culture expert. So I'm not like rushing there. and I just get to like have a little chit chat, see where the convo goes. And let me tell you something about Jax. She is chatty. When she's kind of left to her own devices without Lutcherd, she can talk that Jax.

16:38I mean, KFC and I did an hour and 45 minutes. Let me ask you something. How do you feel it's been going with the advertisements? Oh, I'm having a ball. Yeah, I know. I'm having a ball. Oh, and nice of you to put your mic flag on. Explain to me where your mic flag has been for the last three at-home episodes. You didn't have it with Trout. you didn't have it with Margo and you didn't have it with Taylor Strecker sorry not Trout not Trout not Trout it was at the studio oh I bring them to the studio so we have mic flags for our guest episodes and then the couple ones that I did from home I didn't know the day before that I wasn't coming back you know what in the words of Jackie O I'm fucking all the way off like 100 % valid excuse thank you so much a little slack would go a long way around here at the moment by the way I did give you slack because I could have brought it up the first time I saw it and I didn't you know I'm trying not to be I'm trying to be like a hands-off maternity, you know, like, but it's hard.

17:26Oh my God. She's literally not. It's so hard. Um, but you've been doing a great job. You know, obviously the ads have been running a little long, but you know, that's just a gift to our sponsors. It's a gift to our sponsors who are so tried and true. And I love that every day. So many of the sponsors are the same, like they deserve our love and our authenticity. So today I'm also going to do the ads just because I want Claudia to just have like the guest experience. You know, I really appreciate that. Like the, the, the ads is a burden, right? Do you agree? Like timing it right and making sure it's like a good part of the show and like that you're being funny so it is it does weigh heavily and the fact that i'm just sitting here without an ipad like i don't know what i'm gonna do during the ads no and also once you get into a groove with the ads you remember all the copy you know the points that each brand wants you to hit so it's just like all in your head like the first few days i was like looking at there's so much copy what do i need to say now i i were simpatico which you usually are with the brands but like stay like stay chilled over there say chilled you know don't worry about it and i got um two new air conditioning units in the studio while i can hear them you can don't worry the microphone's not picking it up the audio microphone but i've been i've been obviously preoccupied with ruby but air conditioning is still the number one priority and i now have three units oh i forgot to tell you guys remember i was talking about how i got this brand new air conditioning unit in my studio i was so excited it was like really like a labor of love i had to buy it then have it come and install like it was the whole thing it's was you know working part deliciously for like two three weeks i get an email from like home depot or whatever that the exact model that i bought like of all the units in all the land the exact unit that i bought has been recalled for mold now there are a lot of things things get recalled for and for the most part it's like not the biggest deal but like mold yeah not an option i would have ignored it if it was anything else so then i had to get a refund and a new one and an installation like torture fest but we now have three units working firing on all cylinders of this new office and to be honest i'm kind of cold oh lol well we're matching today also we didn't plan like cream sweaters parging pants creamsicle swirly we're so creamsicle and we're just so simpatico and we're also running a little bit behind you know the time police is here oh but that's the thing about being a guest on my show you never know how long the pre-fast five banner could go well i'm ready to dive in okay i just i'm shocked that you're ready to dive in i'm really you know what you have to give us more sorry you know for the fans we need more coaches yeah my like current timeline is my breasts like i can feel them growing larger but i would rather rush through the fifth story than skimp on banter do you know what i mean all right let's banter what do you want to know two episodes last week it was just four stories i don't know how many people noticed but i was like fuck this like i got the best five have taken a hit oh the fast I've taken a hit for sure uh did you talk about the Real Housewives of New York like the loser version all of them commenting on your Instagram reel no I didn't because I'm like it made me so uncomfy but I did I did allude to it when I was podcasting with Taylor Strucker because um last week when I podcasted with Margo we were talking about the Real Housewives of New York recast and how like whoever did that like should be fired and they shouldn't be in charge of the next what they're going to do the same job again of recasting Real Housewives of New York and we posted that clip just about like fire people who are bad at their jobs and then like a bunch of the former cast members started commenting of like the new show like Jenna Lyons, Uba, they were like butthurt about it when like the clip like wasn't really about them and like we said what we said and I stand by it.

20:54Yeah, Uba's friends with Taylor Strecker though, did you know that? Yes, I did. Like long-standing friends. Amore, amore. Uba's comment was funny to me because she said as long as you have confidence in Wi-Fi, like I guess you can say anything. Who cares about the facts yeah what was that factual i don't know i i didn't understand her comment but i met uma once and i was absolutely dazzled by her so she's a okay in my book like leave all the comments you want star doesn't mean you're not a good person or an interesting person or like i mean i don't think i would be a good reality star but like i'm fabulous i would argue if you're not a good reality star you're probably a good person like that's just kind of the connection i made after taylor strecker hosted she came over to my house she was like i forgot i didn't realize i'm like so out of it when i saw her on the toast i'm like oh my god bitch come over like you're in my studio come over she did we went to lunch like that was like the most normal i had felt where do you think ferdy i had to take ruby to bloomingdale's to have ice cream and taylor strecker had never been to 40 carrots that's twisted you went to rubyndale's we went to rubyndale's it was my first time in like an indoor restaurant we go outside every day either for a walk to the park or like an outdoor lunch spot somewhere that has like pargelicious outdoor seating alfresco um but it was so hot that day so taylor strecker said she'd never been and so i was in an indoor restaurant i can't lie i was like having a little bit of a panic it was like it was kind of crazy to have like a three-week-old stuffy it was like it was busy too but like lots of kids yeah i was like i was hating it um but it felt so good to be like out and about i love taylor strecker so like if you want to have more of my friends come to the studio that would work for my social events calendar.

22:28Okay, great. I'm trying to think. Oh, this week I have an exciting week. I have a guest coming to stay with me for two episodes, which is something that I had meant to do previously, but it just hasn't worked out until now. So I have my guest. And then we're off Thursday. And then Friday we have another exciting guest. First time co-host, not first time guest. That's all I'll say. I want to know who it is. Give me like a subliminal message. Okay, I'll give you a gender, male. and it's been in our text messages. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Mail, what do you mean it's going to be your favorite? Literally. I'm so toxic.

23:06And now that I'm a boy mom, I just want to say, I think there's been a lot of speculation about how turning is going to be different, right? Like, obviously, motherhood changes you so much. And when I come on the podcast and talk every day, like, am I going to be a different type of person? And for the most part, I actually feel more like myself than ever. I don't feel like I've changed that much. Except, like, I will be changing my disposition on Dear Toasters. Two ways. One, because I'm a boy mom now, and I'm definitely a toxic boy mom. Love it. I need to have a daughter so that Ruby has a girl to marry because he's not marrying out of the family.

23:33Sorry. What about a cousin? What about Michaela? Sure, Michaela, sure. Fine, fine. But the second way I feel like I'm definitely going to be changed when it comes to Dear Toasters is like, I feel like sometimes I'm a little cavalier about like, you know, boyfriends and husbands just being like, whatever, you know, like. Like we need to make it work? Yeah. You always like break up with your gay boyfriend. I am always saying break up with your gay boyfriend. But I feel like now more than ever, I've really come to understand and appreciate how like who you have a baby with is like, it's a choice, right?

24:04It's like the biggest decision you'll ever make. Life is not a fairy tale. I'm sorry. Like the guy who's, you know, giving you eight orgasms and like, you know, riding off in a motorcycle. Like I love him and he's mean to you, but like I love him. Like that, the bar has been raised significantly. Like the most important choice you will make in this life is who you go through the newborn trenches with. And like, I just like, I'm not going to be putting up with this like behavior any longer, even though I really haven't been putting up with it. But the bar is even higher now. Yeah, you haven't been putting up with it.

24:34But are you also saying like, it's more than just like, I love him. Like, yes. No, we need to be thinking critically about the characteristics of our partner. That's what I meant. And what you want in a father. It's not so sexy and romantic all the time. Like when you are choosing who you're going to marry and have kids with, like there's so obviously love is important, right? But it's not the most important. No, sorry. It is the most important. It's not the only thing. There are so many other characteristics. And I think that when we were like, oh, my husband's a p-jump, but he did X. Well, a p-jump wouldn't do that.

25:02So actually, he's not a p-jump, and you need to break up with him because he can't be the father of your children. Now, if you're not planning on having children, you can let them get away with more, 1 ,000%. But I just like, I feel like my growth will be most evident during Dear Toasters. Wow. Can't wait to see it. Should have had you on a Tuesday, Ari. And like the mother-in-law, like now I'm the toxic mother-in-law. Nobody's good enough for my boy. Literally nobody. I got so upset like on our first outing, which was to the pediatrician like three days later. I got so upset in the back of the car.

25:34Like thinking about the fact that Ruby's going to have a girlfriend one day. Not on my watch. No, and like just wait until you start thinking about like when he gets married. No, I feel sick. The girl gets like all the good holidays. Yep, family time. Yeah. That's why I think there are things that you can do to stave it off. Yeah, have a daughter. have a daughter. Well, yeah. I will be having a daughter next. But I think also like having an amazing vacation home. Yes. That everyone wants to go to. No, but also just being like the fun. Like that's my, that's my like. Your daughter-in-law would like run from you if you're like a toxic overbearing.

26:10You just need to be like the fun family. Like, oh, you know, our outings are great. We go out and we have cocktails. Like we're fun. Everyone has different ideas of fun though. You think it's so simple, but it's not. Of course, of course. I also haven't had a cocktail. right i went out to lunch on saturday i almost did but it wasn't the right it wasn't the right setting and i think i want my first cocktail to be like in the hamptons this summer yeah and it's like less so about like obviously your breast milk which by the way if you're not like drinking into oblivion like you can still use your breast milk yeah and they say the best time to have a cocktail is as you're nursing like a wine in one hand the baby in the other no because like the milk that they're drinking is from two hours ago think things that you ate yeah um but more so it's like can you parent a little tipsy like do you want to yeah a little hungover no that's where it's like more unpleasant challenging so if you have like a wine in the middle of afternoon you're crashing by evening it's going to be a lot of trial and error this summer so i'm looking forward to that journey but it will be a parchy summer it's going to be a swirly summer the second in a row it's also going to be a parchy patreon summer because if you want the parchy vibes head over to the patreon like it's going down you're halfway through you're halfway through jackson friends and in two weeks the toast is off for the summer yeah but we're not because we'll be releasing one re-release every uh week and one patreon every week so you'll be fed plenty but still but still now let's get into the fast five stories that you need to know because ko just needs to go home to her wee little baby because ko just is leaking shout out to lancino okay if you know you know you lancin know you lancin know i got this box jackie was like you need these like nipple covers i'm like okay whatever um and it came it was probably a box of a thousand and i'm like what the hell am i i'm done with it like i they're the everything lancin makes is the best thing ever so are you over supplied a little bit i am definitely and we talked about thank you i'm glad you brought this up because we talked extensively your dreams came true i am i'm not an oversupplier um i make more than enough for my child i don't pump i collect milk with like a suction thing and i have a freezer full of milk that i've probably pumped collectively four or five times with everything just gets collected i collect like 12 extra ounces a day and i'm not even trying that's just like and i'm still always like big and engorged so i got what i wish for i i'm not an oversupplier because i watch people who pump 30 ounces in one sitting like that's fucking crazy that's like extreme over supply i have a very very healthy supply and i'm very grateful because i know some people like pump all day and get one ounce like yeah if i i could pump i actually did pump last night because ben needed to make a bottle i pumped for about six minutes and i got five ounces like i think that's really yeah that's a lot no i know her dreams came true is it everything you dreamed of um it's nice to not have to worry honestly i know some people like really panic and that's the thing nursing is so hard and then i go to the doctor and you know pooh-pooh is gaining weight ahead of schedule it makes you feel so good right like it's crushed it's worth all the pain and literally like the crying at night i know some people go to the doctor after going through the same pain as me and they're like you need to supplement with formula it's not driving baby's not gaining enough weight and that's really hard so i'm grateful to the supply for that but it's not without its challenges my boobs always hurt i still am wearing a bra in the shower i have a shower bra that i hang on a hook and is it a bathing suit yet no No, no.

29:34I was thinking of buying a bathing suit, obviously. Like a waterproof top, a waterproof bra, which is a bikini top. Jackie, I literally was like to bed, they should make shower bras. And he's like, it's a bathing suit. You said you take a shower in your bra. I was like, is it a shower bra? But then I'm like, that's a bathing suit. So I have one distinct bra. Actually, if you watch my Patreon, what's in my hospital bag, one of those mom cozy ones I got from Amazon. It's like kind of like a really thin. It's not a good bra for like every day. It's a good shower bra. I wore it today before I got here I showered in my shower bra um so that's the bit that is not amazing Margo came over and I was nursing and she was like holy shit my boobs have tripled in size and they were already doubled in size from pregnancy like they are the biggest boobs definitely in New York City right now like nobody has bigger boobs than me in the five boroughs um that's the challenge my like they hurt they're really big but other than that it's been it's been a blessing to have a supply I'm very grateful I know not everybody has that that's really beautiful.

30:33I need to let you know something beautiful. Speaking of beauty, today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by America's Sweethearts, Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders coming back to Netflix season two premiering on June 18th. So perfect timing for swirly summer because Jackie literally sent me the article. She said, do not watch this until July 1st until we're all together because we are watching it this summer. Because last summer we watched DCC America's Sweethearts on Netflix and it was the perfect family show. It was so cute. It was so good I've always been obsessed with DCC because I am ahead of every single trend and my husband is a Cowboys fan so I came to know the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders humble brag early in life and um so I knew how amazing this show was going to be and it is even better than you could ever imagine and now season two is coming to Netflix on June 18th so all seven episodes will release at once thank you at 12 a.m pacific time 2 a.m central time and they will be available globally in 190 plus country.

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36:42And honestly, no. Like, let me tell you why. I feel like I'm enjoying it so much. And if I was, like, when I was younger, I was, like, so impatient and so, like, such a brat that I, if I was doing, like, all these, like, night feedings, I would be a monster. And I don't think I would be enjoying it as much. And I think I'd be, like, really mean to Ben. I think, like, I did it, you know, everything obviously happens for a reason and timing is everything. But, like, I don't have that feeling, like, I wish I did it sooner. Do you know what I mean? Yes, but I also feel like if you're ever going to feel that way, I wouldn't expect it to be right now.

37:14Oh, okay. You know? Yeah, because you're like in the trenches. It's like, why would I want to do this hard thing sooner? I'm glad that I'm more prepared. Yeah, right. No, and also there's so many things that go into it. Obviously, like getting your mind right. And I feel like I've only recently gotten my mind right, if I'm being completely honest. Financially, like it's such a, not a burden, but like obviously it's like a lot. It's expensive, like Costco bills, Amazon Prime. Even if you're not buying a crib for your son. Right, which I didn't, by the way. And everybody was like, oh, I see that you bought a crib.

37:39Like, you obviously got the one you wanted. No, bitch. Okay. See, I told you. She made it work. I made it work. Thank you. Baby list. What was I saying? No, no. I hear what you're saying, that you're in a good spot now. But, like, one, you might have that. If you ever feel that way, I think it might come later. Okay. And two, you could argue perhaps that if you did it sooner, even when you weren't, like, as mature as you are now, like, it might have matured you. Yeah. it's the sort of thing that changes a person however there's no way to know there's no way i think i think the timing is all right and i think of the words of garrett headlund from my favorite gwyneth paltrow movie timing is everything and seriously who wants to live with a regret like that like that's totally like no it's how i like it it's good 40 minutes later i'm ready for the first story justin bieber declares he's a dad that's not to be fucked with in a bizarre father's 2025 post so literally bsa like justin bieber is continuing erratic social media behavior we can call it he posted a selfie yesterday on father's day saying i'm a dad that's not to be fucked with middle finger then he also posted literally huda oh from love is blind yeah love is blind island love is blind love is blind um then he also posted a series of text messages with a former friend like yeah i don't want to drop the name i don't want to say lashing out at him because it's not lashing out if you're acting out of trauma says justin but um him turning on his friend it's like a series of three screenshots and that person's no longer his friend he didn't say what was kind of random that he posted it so it was just like a complex day for justin yesterday he's still like spinning out although hailey is over here like maintaining everything's good there was also that paparazzi video of justin in a blue hoodie like begging the paparazzi to leave him alone because he's standing on business okay yeah um but then hailey commented on a girl boss town tiktok where she was just like paparazzi leave justin alone like we literally don't need to see a picture of him going from his van to his door like we don't give a fuck um and hailey commented like exactly so hailey's over here maintaining like it's all good when like it's is it all good I don't know.

39:52But I think when you've just sold your company for a billion dollars, everything is good. You know, just sort of washes clean everything. Right. Why doesn't somebody buy my company for a billion dollars? And I'll just test that theory, you know? Yeah. And then you could start yelling at the paparazzi paparazzi and like, does it matter? No, no, it doesn't. And the paparazzi have been such like an issue in my life that I obviously resonate with this completely because I was paparazzi one time out of TMZ outside of catch by TMZ. Those photos never make it to air. They never saw it. So it has been an issue.

40:21issue it has been an issue a big one in your life and the thing is it's actually better that those photos never saw the light of day because I forgot to share when we shared that story recently that I had the biggest visible panty line in the dress that I was wearing like actually offensively large oh speaking of visible panty lines I don't know why that just reminded me I did also want to talk about the fact that I've restarted the show girls I don't want to talk about that I know but I have I have one thought Ben had never seen it and I just like had a feeling he would love it and I was right he's obsessed with it.

40:49Because it was good and before it got bad like there was a moment in time where it was lightning in a bottle and it was like so good. No no it's so good it is some of the funniest writing I don't find the show particularly relatable it was one of those shows where it's like there's four girls which one are you a Samantha a Carrie no it's not like that I don't know if anyone's lived experience is even remotely relatable to those four freaks in Brooklyn but I believe and my major takeaway is it's kind of a if you want to have the conversation about nepotism, let's start with Alison Williams, the worst actress to ever walk the earth.

41:24Now I'm sure that she has gone on to improve her skills because she was in that, you know, very popular Jordan Peele movie, Get Out, and she's gone on to do great things. But her first ever job as an actress was this hit HBO primetime show because her father is, you know, now disgraced news anchor, Brian Williams. Is that his name? Yeah. she is the worst actress to ever act like it's an assault on the art form of acting it's shocking that and everyone else is a nepo baby in that show too lena dunham's dad uh zosia mamet's dad jemima kirk everyone's parent is someone famous she is glaringly nepotistic she is awful at her job but i feel like sometimes we talk about nepotism where it's like well are you deserving of it like gwyneth paltrow at you know 21 winning an oscar like she was gonna be famous regardless I don't give a fuck who her dad was or her mom.

42:15Alison Williams was going nowhere before her father. Like she's a true character study in nepotism. She definitely got better. Cause like, I know she went on to do big things, but oh my God, she's the, Marnie is the worst actress ever. I'm like, is this a joke? Well, I feel like when they got cast also, it was like a bunch of Nepo kids. They were probably friends. Nobody knew it was going to be like the next biggest show. Nina Dunham was like a first time writer, just like sort of hit. And it could have gone, it could have been just like a weird artsy project. A student film. It's not like she got cast in Dakota Johnson, Fifty Shades of Grey with no prior work.

42:47Which is still, like, that's the craziest act of nepotism to ever shake Hollywood. That's the craziest act of nepotism. Your first job ever. Like, you have no experience. Like, the biggest movie of all time. Guaranteed hit. So I'm going to give Alice Williams, like, a little bit of a pass there. How does it make you feel about Lena Dunham? Like, is she a once-in-a-generation talent? Okay, it actually makes me feel really conflicted because while her character is horrible and we hate and whatever she wrote everything else she's the creator of the show um and obviously like i'm normal i dislike lena dunham but i dislike her for reasons i feel like people just dislike her because she's like yucky yeah like but i just like her for that one article she wrote about jack antonoff um being like having a jewish boyfriend it was deeply anti-semitic and beyond problematic and i've never been able to move past that i can acknowledge my own biases it's literally because of this one article people don't like like something she wrote in her book about like molestation she's has like a none of i don't even like don't even remind me like for me it's just it starts and ends with that article um no the book thing was weird sorry like yeah no agreed agreed agreed agreed agreed i totally forgot about that having said that like she's extremely funny and talented like the writing is she's a new show coming out i know with my queen meg stalter who plays the assistant in Hacks Jimmy's assistant maybe you should watch it I know like the thing is I'm conflicted because and also she saw something in Adam Driver none of us saw because he was like this random weird actor this is his first role in Girls and he is the biggest star in the world now Star Wars because of her so listen you know she's definitely having a redemption era because she's been like popping up a lot and this new show I think is going to be really good and I'm having a girls renaissance.

44:32Like, I'm sorry, it is really good. Are you having a Lena Dunham summer? No, no, no, no, no. Don't tell anyone that, I'm not. Title, Claudia Asher is having a Lena Dunham summer. I'm not, I never said that. I'm just saying, Ben Soffer is having a Lena Dunham summer. He thinks it's so funny. That is funny that he thinks it's funny. While I have you on the subject of Justin Bieber, we need to know your thoughts on road sale and Haley's post about the Justin's post about Haley's Vogue cover. We I think I was on the show for Vogue's the Vogue thing. No, OK. Oh, OK. OK. The road sale obsessed like you love to see women in business.