Oscar is Blind: Monday, March 3rd, 2025

3 Mar 2025 · 1 h 26 min

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Episode Details

  • Title: Oscar is Blind: Monday, March 3rd, 2025
  • Hosts: Jackie and Claudia Oshry
  • Episode Duration: 1 hour 39 minutes
  • Content Overview: This episode features a recap of the 2025 Oscars, celebrity gossip, a discussion about Kourtney Kardashian's statement regarding her son, and a review of the latest "Love Is Blind" episodes.

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Key Discussions

  1. Oscars 2025 Recap
  2. Overall Sentiment: Jackie and Claudia express dissatisfaction with the Oscars, citing a lack of quality films nominated this year.
  3. Key Points:
  4. The hosts share their disdain for the winners, particularly focusing on the difficulties they faced in connecting with the films.
  5. Controversial Wins and Speeches:
  6. Kieran Culkin's win for a Holocaust-themed film was critiqued for failing to acknowledge the sensitivity of the subject matter.
  7. The general sentiment was that many speeches lacked depth and seriousness, particularly regarding Jewish trauma.
  8. Jackie noted that the films nominated seemed lesser compared to previous years, declaring a decline in Oscar-worthy films.
  1. Kourtney Kardashian Addresses Viral Rumors
  2. Kourtney Kardashian’s rare statement addressed rumors about her son Mason allegedly having a baby.
  3. Key Quotes from Kourtney:
  4. "These accounts that pretend to be him are definitely not real."
  5. She emphasizes the importance of privacy for her children and requests more respect from the media.
  1. Bethenny Frankel's Dinner Drama with Alex Earl
  2. Bethenny claimed Alex stood her up for dinner, leading to a series of TikToks where she humorously recounts the event.
  3. Alex later clarified that she mixed up the dinner dates due to exhaustion from traveling, which Bethenny accepted, but she continued to milk the situation for content.
  1. Meghan Markle's PEOPLE Magazine Feature
  2. Meghan Markle is featured on the cover of People Magazine, which the hosts found surprising given her previous high-profile magazine features.
  3. They discussed the contents of the article, which covers her family life, her relationship with Harry, and their plans for a new show and lifestyle brand.
  1. Ingrid Andress Sings the National Anthem
  2. Ingrid returned to sing the National Anthem at a hockey game after a controversial performance at the MLB All-Star game.
  3. The hosts reflected on her performance, noting the audience's supportive energy and her transition from a prior mishap to a more poised presentation.
  1. Love Is Blind Recap
  2. The hosts recap the latest episodes of "Love Is Blind," highlighting:
  3. Couples Dynamics:
  4. Discussed the break-up of Dave and Lauren, emphasizing Lauren's struggles with Dave's behavior.
  5. Analyzed the evolving relationships of other couples, including Monica and Joey, and Maddy and Ben.
  6. Political Conversations:
  7. The complex discussions between Virginia and Devin regarding their differing political views.
  8. The segment concluded with the hosts expressing frustration over the lack of authentic emotional connections among the couples.

Key Takeaways

  • Oscars: A collective disappointment in the nominations and winners, alongside calls for more meaningful discussions surrounding sensitive topics during awards.
  • Celebrity Gossip: Acknowledgment of the ongoing impact of media speculation on celebrities' family lives, particularly with Kourtney Kardashian's statement.
  • Reality TV Dynamics: The complexities of relationships displayed in "Love Is Blind" and the influence of external factors, including family and societal expectations.

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Closing Remarks

  • Jackie and Claudia wrap up the episode with a reminder to tune in next time for more discussions on pop culture, celebrity gossip, and reality TV recaps.
  • Listeners are encouraged to subscribe, like, and engage with the podcast on various platforms.

Contact Information

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  • Jackie Oshry: [@JackieOshry](https://twitter.com/JackieOshry)
  • Claudia Oshry: [@girlwithnojob](https://twitter.com/girlwithnojob)
  • Patreon: [The Toast Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/thetoast)

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0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy monday and if there was a monday that i ever felt like a monday it might be this particular monday because my god we have so much to cover hello jacks how you're darn i'm darn good we have a lot to cover on this monday that feels like a monday first monday in march let's get this bread oh wait it's almost the met gala just like a fun fact in two months if that's yeah like you almost yeah like we're almost there like usually the first monday of March it just reminded me like yeah that's something coming up that's something to look forward to is it you're so mainstream these days I can't keep up with you the thing is is that you know actually I'm glad you brought that up because I go through I go through eras where like I'm such a hater of things and it's hard because like your job is to like you know watch it all recap it at all and no one wants to come on here being like I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate and I do I'm just like a hater to my core but yes I have been very mainstream like watching everything on tv these days it's more so pregnancy like yeah thank yeah like even though the Oscars was one of those miserable experiences like do you know how grateful I was to have to watch something that I could like live tweet and like be a part like the activities don't come as easily as they used to so if my mainstream is coming off as anything other than a lack of other options then I'm sorry no it's nice And we don't hate like by choice.

1:45We are dedicated to the truth. And if things shake out in a hateful way, that's literally not our fault. And I really feel like I've been so positive recently. And I'm really due for like a hater episode. I have actually a lot of really kind of hot button controversial things to say. I'm not sure if I'm going to say all of them. I haven't even spoken to you offline. I think you should just let it rip. I'm feeling really motivated by the truth. Like that's really what's guiding me. I don't like, I don't go through a hater era, like where I'm just like angry at stuff. It's like, if it's good, it's good.

2:18And if it's not good, I'll say so. Let the truth guide you, cogers. Yeah. So I just have a lot of thoughts. And also this is the first year, this is the first year that I'm really well versed in the movies. You know, I've seen most of the talkies. Oh yeah, that's so good. Because they love to say, you didn't even watch the movies. And so now that I have, and you're going to regret making me watch these movies, because I have some really kind of crazy things to say. So the first story we have today is the Oscars. We'll get into that in a little bit. But how was your weekend, Jax? Tell me all about it.

2:48Cojers, it was a nice weekend, but it wasn't my finest. And it was actually quite boring, so I'll be brief. Sick again this weekend, which really put a damper on things. I guess it's just a cold. At one point, I was like, do I have allergies? I looked up, like, what's the allergy count right now? Because it was just like so sneezy, so sniffly was Miz. um I have to read the 600 paid books for the redheads so all my free time was dedicated to reading this book that started out as like a a demon copperhead type and now I hate this author you know you know when that happens like he set out you're telling me he set out to do something he bit off more than he could chew he doesn't know where he's going so I didn't even watch anything fun because I was reading this book which I don't hate but I've just been like knee deep in reading yesterday we did go on a local safari so that was fun I got to see exotic animals and that was the highlight of my weekend so yeah like really nothing fabulous to share on Forge.

3:45Mine wasn't fabulous either although I did yes I did have a dinner party on Friday night the Taylors. You did you did. She was hard to get a hold of. It was one of those nights that like was perfect and only would have been made more perfect if I could have a cocktail you know. Oh I guess so yeah I thought you were gonna say it was one of those nights that was written in the stars no ben taylor and taylor like we were having so much fun ben made a beautiful meal we played like uh board games like you know that's my dream night oh i saw i saw slaw and and schnitzel and everybody was like drinking wine and ben doesn't really drink and he did and i was like oh my god of course like one night you get like fun drunk and i'm not even allowed to participate so it was fun but like it could have been better you know with a drink yeah but that's actually not the most important thing that happened to me this weekend i too had a pretty boring weekend although I consumed a lot of content for the purposes of today's show yeah I finished love is blind I watched so much desperate housewives I won't bore you guys with it but it's just like the only thing that brings me joy um but I also had a traumatic event that I'd like to oh my gosh you guys you're not gonna believe this if you've been here a while you will not believe this story yes you will not believe that like the craziest thing ever happened to me again so I'm obviously pregnant I don't know if I mentioned that I talk about it like so little um and I get no backlash every time I could just say like I got so much hate on Friday after like talking about pregnancy for 20 minutes like I feel like I've been so good reeling in my pregnancy stuff and like guys just let me live like I'm pregnant like what do you want me to do like can I ask you something yeah is it your truth then let it guide you I fear it is yes then let guide you.

5:24Okay. So one of the absolute blessings of pregnancy is how frequently you have to pee. And for some reason, like you have to pee way more at night. And so I'm used to it now. I'm up to about three P's every two, three hours I pee. And on Saturday night, I got up to pee. And what's so funny is that something woke me up and then I was like, oh, I'll pee, you know? And the thing that woke me up was Ben's heavy breathing. He's like literally behind me. And I hear him just like whistling in the wind and I'm like that bump made us jump literally so he woke me up and I was like well while I'm up I might as well just get my pee out of the way so I get up to pee the door's closed to the bathroom we have a like an ensuite I open the door to the bathroom and there's a man in my bathroom like coming out of the toilet and I screamed screamed so loud like like truly like if you're being kidnapped like you scream and then the man is also screaming and then I'm screaming and the man's screaming.

6:20And I realized very quickly that the man is Ben, which I didn't really understand because three seconds before he was in the bed waking me up with his snoring. So I'm like, how did you get in the toilet? We are screaming off like, the whole thing like seriously never ended. Like scream, I scream, he scream, I scream, he scream. And then I was so petrified, like true fear that I collapsed. Like my body gave out and I totally forgot I was pregnant. I landed on my knees thank god I have never been so scared except for the last time that happened this one was worse by the way if you're a new toaster in Claudia and Ben's old apartment um so just to say like two years ago this exact thing happened she went up to pee in the middle of the night she opened the door and there was someone in her bathroom and they screamed at each other and it was Ben actually the last time the roles were reversed I was on the toilet it and it's pitch black and I like look up for a second and there's a man standing over me I don't know which one was more scary this one just feels more scary because it was more recent but oh my god I've never felt like such abject terror in my entire fucking life like whole and like just I was up for an hour afterwards my knees were killing me because I collapsed onto my knees it was the worst thing that ever happened to me we now have rules in place and I'm just like can I have one thing like what you have to pee in the middle of the night too like I'm fucking pregnant like I said first of all and ever since it happened I'm very aware that it could happen again and I always now pee with the door open and like I make a lot of sound when I pee just so somebody knows that like a hi I'm here um so I'm aware of it Ben is obviously not so now we have rules in place I said for the remainder of the pregnancy like you have to pee in the guest room in the middle of the night I'm sorry and um if you do happen to like forget and pee in our best bathroom like pee with the door open make a lot of sound like just make yourself known don't be like you know tiptoeing in the night no he's not welcome in your bathroom anymore that's that has to be like we can't have this happen again he needs to use the other bathroom maybe you guys need a night light various nightlights in your bedroom so that it's never like pitch black and when you see it's it's not like the the the reason that this happened had nothing to do with the level of darkness like well it doesn't happen in the middle of the day well it happened in our old apartment and we had a nightlight on the floor in the bathroom.

8:41Like, it's not about that. And I'm actually just want to say, like, I don't feel like this is that crazy. I'm surprised it doesn't happen to more people because, like, when your partner gets out of bed, like, it jostles the bed and, like, wakes you up and you're like, oh, yeah, I'll pee. And you don't realize that you're jostled because they got up to pee. So I feel like it's not the craziest thing. And the fact that it's happened to me twice now, like, sounds crazy, but it's not. Yeah. we listen and we don't judge we listen and we don't judge I'm surprised my doorbell didn't ring with the cops good to know that not a single one of my neighbors called the police when two people were screaming for their fucking lives you guys are the craziest two people that's the thing you and Ben are so crazy you're seriously perfect for each other can I tell you something I know it's not the point it's not the point but like Ben screamed it was really icky pussy the pitch and the tenor of it was so like a small beautiful woman what are you afraid of it was so girly his scream it sounded like a woman and he should have known that's you obviously my thing is that I pee Right.

10:08Yeah, and it's like, what are you doing here? Get out of here. No, that's really crazy that he screamed. I had reason to be suspicious about the man in my bathroom. Unless, like, your scream scared him because, like, scream is scary. By the way, that is what happened because now I can laugh, like, replay his face. Seriously, I can't. But in the moment, it was so scary. Like, I couldn't laugh. Now I can. Were you mad at him after? No, no. I was really, really shaken up. Like I was so afraid. Yes, I had actually went through like the real feelings of somebody being kidnapped. Like your worst nightmare, you wake up and someone's in your house, right?

10:49Like now thankfully the person in my house lived there, but it was like the real feelings of it. Do you know what I mean? Yes, and how was Romeo? He's been sleeping in the crate because he's pissing us off. So he was a non-factor. I can only imagine what he would have thought. Romeo's POV. You guys, my parents are crazy. It was so crazy. I seriously, like you guys are so crazy. It was the craziest thing. Sound off in the comments, does this happen to you? Like, is this something that happened? Yeah. And what are like solves? Having a second toilet is huge. Like obviously, like sorry, your walk is now much longer, but it's not my problem.

11:30Yeah. A small price to pay. Oh my God. It was the craziest thing that ever happened to me. And then like we were just supposed to wake up and be normal. And I went, we woke up and went to brunch with Ben's parents. And I actually had to leave early. I was really feeling like dizzy and not okay. I think that like the whole traumatic event really took a physical toll on me. Yeah. Well, the lack of sleep, the need. You might have had like a vasovagil. By the way, it was giving vasovagil. Exactly. Like I was feeling really unsteady at brunch and like nauseous, like I was going to throw up. So I had to leave.

12:04Or it was the pregnancy. I think it was the Vassal Baggle. I think it was so vast. It's getting baggle. Vags. So that's like literally the only thing I have to report from the weekend because it was seriously, it wasn't real. It was literally a movie. Like, oh my God. Yeah. Well, speaking of the movies, the Oscars were on last night. I endeavor to watch them. We'll share all of our thoughts in the Fast Five, which I think. Yeah, I mean, we should like make haste today. There's a lot to talk about. Because we're doing Fast Five stories. we're doing you're doing love is blind recap you never know what's going to come up along the way courtney kardashian released a statement and i feel bad so like we have a lot to talk about oh and we're doing alex earl bethany frankel i've so that's another one of my like takes today that i feel like people are not going to see coming oh okay you bet these better be good i feel like you're really like there's nothing worse than when someone's like i have a hot take yeah i know hot Hot dogs are not sandwiches.

13:01Wearing moist is weird. No, I would say like my hottest take, it's like not even hot. You know, we'll talk about it, okay? Okay, without further do-do-do-do-do, here are the Fast Five Stories You Need to Know. And the Fast Five Stories You Need to Know are brought to you by Netflix and their new series, Running Point, that I feel like everybody was talking about this weekend. It's now number one on Netflix. I'm sure you guys have heard of it. It's the new comedy series from Hitmaker and dream guest host on the toast, Minnie Kaling. and it stars queen of rom-coms, beloved Hollywood glamor's on, her mom was at the Oscars last night, Kate Hudson.

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16:43because I had such a problem with the Oscars and I know you did too. And I just want to like, I want to talk about how like offensive to my core. And obviously like I take things, you know, related to my people very, very personally. But I don't know how anyone could have watched the Oscars last night and not just like wanted to vomit all over these people. Especially when you think about like, so top four awards, which were like best supporting actor, actress. Two of them films were Holocaust movies. Two of the actors who won are Jewish. and the way there was just like so much profiting off of Jewish trauma and like no mention of recent Jewish trauma I found so offensive like ongoing ongoing I like Kieran Culkin and like I I don't like I don't want to you know smear him but like you get up there you want it for a Holocaust movie you're not even Jewish like to not even mention it like I actually found so offensive and I thought his speech was really sweet like about his wife like so cute but like let's talk about what got you here first just briefly like I know you have a limited amount of time.

17:40Mikey Madison, Jewish girl, no mention. Like this is the biggest moment. And Adrian Brody, and I'm sorry, like I love him. I'm going to, I'm going to gag over him and Georgina and the gum. Like I'm going to do it. But like, disappointment, the speech was weak, especially because they started playing the music and he was like, no, stop. I have something to say. And I was like, oh, here we fucking go. Here we go. He stopped the music. I'm ready for him to slay the house down boots. And like he said, antisemitism, like he was pushing out a duty. Like it was the hardest thing he've ever done and then he also like blanketed it with other like sort of buzzwords and it was just it was not powerful it was not moving and the whole thing just felt so to me and then for this film which was like uh nominated in one of the categories normally people don't care about like documentary short um it was called no other land to have won which was like seriously like a propaganda film made about the war in israel to for them to have won and then got up on stage and just like said to me like the most abhorrently offensive, unfactual things.

18:41Like to me, I wanted to turn the whole fucking thing off. I thought it was disgusting. Like everything I've ever thought about Hollywood and enough with the Jews run Hollywood because if they did, like last night wouldn't have happened. So just please shut the fuck up. I wanted to turn it off, but I'm like, no, I did not come this far to only come this far. I watch these piece of shit movies. I'm gonna see this through. So I will give my thoughts and you know, I won't make everything about this, but I just needed to be said how personally offensive I found the whole night. Yeah, I first of all, I'm offended.

19:10They started at 7 p.m. Like some of us have shit to do. So I didn't. Oh, I was grateful. I was really about that until like 740. So that's when I was able to start recording. I'm sorry. Wait, one more thing. One more thing that like added to my list of offensive. I said everyone. And then for that ugly fuck guy Pierce, I've never even heard of him. I'm like, you come to the Oscars on the backs of a Holocaust movie and you wear your stupid, ugly, free Palestine pin. Like, you know nothing. You're an idiot. And I hate you. Yeah. Especially after the last few weeks when they've complete, like, not that they ever hid who they were in Gaza, but like, they have been so horrible, literally dancing and parading around the coffins of Jewish babies.

19:47Like, this is what you want to say today? Really? That's who you are? Like, I, it's really sickening. um so I watched from like 740 up until no other land or whatever won the best documentary I'm like why am I watching this what I watched wasn't even enjoyable these people are morons I don't like them I don't like this like let me go back to my book um so I'll recap what I saw and we'll talk about the winners and tell me what you think like from a a cinematic perspective I will I will it also looks like shit like every preview for every movie looks like shit and the good movies like And I know I only saw one, but like Wicked was an amazing movie.

20:24And the fact that that. Yeah, and it should have won every award. And I've seen clips of Anor and Amelia President. It's a joke. The girl writhing on the floor with the song, fuck, fuck, fuckity fuck. It says fuck over. Conan O 'Brien said it says fuck over four inch times in the movie. Like, and that's the best movie. So that's my kind of big, like outside of my own personal politics, which I can admit like I'm very close to. Now I'm going to take a step back and just talk about this as a movie critic, if I may. Because I've seen all the movies. I've seen all the movies. and when they played in the very beginning um like this little trailer of like movies of your that have won oscars and it was all in tribute to la so it was like big hollywood films they had la la land everything that it was just like so glamorous and you're like yes this is the oscars yes yes yes and then you take a look at the slew of films that were nominated this year and it's like this one of these things is not like the other like there was nothing and then when you think about also I'm sorry the films that won like oh really like the category that you know gave us La La Land and you know 12 Years a Slave and Gone with the Wind like the great Nora like it's actually crazy that I think what now is considered an Oscar worthy film is just so different than what I'm used to seeing and last night was just like all the worst movies being nominated and treated like you know like something that they weren't yeah so it's like well I don't know if like a Nora should have won over Amelia Press to be honest I don't really give a fuck they're all the same type of movie like where are the greats where are like these big productions and like the one thing I'll say about a Nora that I liked is that it was an independent movie made for six million dollars and like that just doesn't happen to movies like that like that's cool for sure shout out to the indies they deserve you know but at its core like it was a dumb movie like I actually enjoyed it like it was like a silly movie you would see like with your friends like Oscars it's just not adding up yeah so of the movies that you saw what what do you think should have won best picture you saw Conclave, Amelia Perez, Anora, The Substance and Wicked honestly like when I think of what constitutes an Oscar worthy film I would have said Conclave and the more that I have like time has passed since I've watched this movie I find myself like thinking most and talking to people about Conclave as a good movie should I enjoyed the substance the most I would have been happy if they won and Demi Moore was 1000 % snubbed like it's even it's not even a question um yeah I think I would say Conclave okay or Wicked like I know they're against giving it to popular things, but when you think about movies in the year 2025, you're only thinking about Wicked.

23:04Yeah. And it's okay to give it to something corny and popular. No, it's not even corny because it was really artistic. It's really theatrical. Cynthia Revio has the most amazing voice on the planet. It will go down as a movie as big as... The Wizard of Oz. Yeah, Titanic. That was our movie of the year, our big budget movie. La La Land which didn't win by the way which is a perfect example right because the movie that won nobody talks about today Moonlight yeah um okay so let's let's go through the categories but let's also just talk about the opening which started out for me and I'm I'm feeling really critical of the night so I'm gonna say things about people whom I love oh yeah we're waiting for the hot takes as well yeah okay well one of my hot takes is that the performances were so bad and that's obviously that stood out were Ari and Cynthia and it was so pargy the way they chose songs to encapsulate the entire Wizard of Oz universe not just Wicked somewhere over the rainbow and then um the Wiz and then Wicked like it was so beautiful but I was really kind of like shooketh at Ari's vocals I feel like you could always say what you want about Ari right like you know like her music and her personal life but she's gonna slay the house down boots with that voice and she's gonna shut everybody up she was a little like shaky I don't know if she was nervous but it was not giving her parchi flawless vocals it was giving like are she nervous so I saw that you said that before I watched it I saw you say like Ari's vocals are eh and then when I watched I was like oh no they sounded good considering I was expecting them to be eh I wonder what I would have thought if I just watched it without any expectation because I was like oh no she sounds nice the only thing is and I never noticed this but I could hear her breathing I feel like that's part of the trade where it's like your breath work you where you know where to take your breath so that we don't hear it so that we don't know like and I didn't know she was sharing like yeah it wasn't I don't know I wasn't like blown away and then Cynthia comes out and sing a song from the Wiz that I didn't know but I was enjoying immensely and Cynthia's just like she could fart out a tune that's better than anything you've ever heard and then when they brought the two women together and I really did love that like even though the movie has been paraded as like Like, Cynthia and Ari, Cynthia and Ari, Cynthia and Ari.

25:19Like, the big songs and the vocals, like, it is Elphaba. And so I liked that the performance was, like, really for Cynthia. And Ari was very much there as, like, supporting act. Because that final song, like, oh, my God. I wasn't okay. It was so beautiful. She didn't even look like she was trying. That was the crazy thing. Like, the way she was hitting these notes. It was perfection. I liked the cinematography. They showed Ari in the back doing some supporting vocals. I hope you're happy. Like, parja fucking licious. I loved it. And I was like, oh, here we fucking go. The Oscars are about to like, you know, the year I finally watch them all, I'm ready.

25:55And then Conan came out. And I want to say something. I don't have any particular strong feelings about Conan. I think people really love him and people also really dislike him. So I was ready to be dazzled. I'm like, take me to your side. Make me a fan. And I found the whole thing like really hard to watch. He was really corny and he was trying so hard, which I appreciate. but it was reading so desperate and I don't know it was also like not funny that's kind of where I draw the line yeah that's what we're looking for funny yeah it wasn't good and then with any host even if you're doing a good job towards the end like I find you annoying but I started finding him annoying like the second and third time he came on and like I was just scrolling I miss half of his jokes like he was really bothering me irksome okay so it's a no from Conan.

26:41It's a no for Conan. It's a no-nin. He just reminds me of, and I know he's not like a Jimmy, but he has that vibe, and he didn't stand out in a way, so he was giving Jimmy. Yeah. There were a couple of good jokes, like I laughed, but the Carla Sofia Gascon of it all was very funny. I didn't know if they were going to dress up. I didn't even know if she was in the building. She was in the building, right? Because everybody was ignoring her. I didn't see her on the carpet. So she had tweets. If you guys don't know, she's the actress from Who plays Emilia Perez. Emilia Perez actually it's Perez there's an apostrophe over the first date and everybody loves her like queen queen queen and then she had tweets and now everybody hates hates hates and she was dominated for best actress so it was like really like she was a big player last night she wasn't on tv once except when Conan made the joke about her which I actually thought was a funny joke and good on her for like you know playing into it because I don't know where she She goes from here.

27:36But. No she goes nowhere from here. That was the craziest story. Like this is the wokest movie of the year. And she was like everywhere. The darling. And then the tweets. They're so antithetical to like everything that the movie is. The movie stands for. And it's just like womp womp womp. No it was so ironic. Do you think Amelia Perez would have won best picture if not for that? No no. Because I think by the time her tweets came out like most of the voting had already been done. Especially because this production was postponed. Okay. No not the production. the nominees but something actually the whole the whole broadcast was postponed no no they said no just the nominee announcement but also that would mean they had more time to vote yeah i think that um and that was something i a positive i want to give them there's going to be very few positives so just hold on to your horses i really appreciated them giving amelia perez only two out of the 13 nominations now i didn't agree with either of the two but they could have went home with more than that and it would have actually been like such a slap in the face to everybody there yeah um that it was the right thing yeah so for the acting awards best actress went to mikey madison anora she beat out to me that's the big snub yeah it should have went to demie more she was first of all that movie was really good the substance and she was incredible like it was because we're talking about two different things here it's hard to with the actress categories you have to separate the movies from the performance like even if you thought the movie was bad was their performance better um and anora was a worst movie and a worse performance and demi more totally deserved it it was her i think feel like one of her like her only chance you know and it was so obvious that it was gonna be her she was sitting right in the front row like why wasn't it she was amazing yeah and anora was like this dumb silly movie i'm sorry about like a a wealthy russian kid who moves to new york and like hides from his parents and hires a hooker and gets married to her and they just like get drunk and big it's like it was so silly um and she plays the hooker and she's just like fuck yes fuck that she's like she's from there they take they uh film it in new york so she's like this og new york like stripper and it's i didn't think the accent was very good i wasn't really buying like it wasn't an amazing acting performance so i have no idea why she won um and it should have been to me yeah then best actor went to adrian brody for the brutalist which I feel like is always a good choice.

29:57His second Oscar. Yeah, I didn't see. I didn't see this one, so I don't have like a strong feeling. But of the ones that I did see, I do feel like they could have given it to Ralph Fiennes. Oh, that was a funny joke Conan made. Like if you lose again tonight, we're allowed to call you Ralph. Funny. That's funny. I wish it went to Timothy. Oh, I saw that movie. It was bad. Sorry. I don't think, I don't wish it went. He just won the SAG Award. He made a speech, but Kylie wasn't there because she was grieving. And then she's there last night, like with the camera. I just would have loved to see it.

30:25And I don't have a horse in this race. And Adrian Brody, like, disappointed his whole community. So, like, why not, Timothy? Except he did something so cute. We need to talk about his speech. Okay. So he really couldn't believe that he won. He's, like, hugging everyone, giving Georgina the biggest kiss. Like, doesn't want to let go of his girl, his girl. He's walking up the stairs. Then he realizes he has gum in. He's like, oh, shit. But he's, like, halfway up the stairs. So he takes the gum out and he's, like, looking around for what to do with it. And Georgina's, like, running after him. She sees him in this predicament.

30:52Georgina's running, like, with, like, the rapper. you know and he tosses it in the air she goes to catch it she didn't miss it but like she picked it up off the ground it was such a funny like sweet supportive moment i saw people online being like this is outrageous throwing your trash at a woman shut up it was funny like it was funny i thought it was really sweet and it made them so real like that's your partner it's this huge moment for them let them throw in your trash and you can not accept an oscar with gum in your mouth No. And he acknowledged her in the speech. He called her his partner.

31:24And he spoke of her kids, which is so crazy because it's like Harvey Weinstein's kids. And I think he referred to himself as like a nickname. He was like, Popsy? He said something like, Popsy did it or Popsy won. Like, are you saying you're their dad? I mean, their dad's in jail. So like, they need a father. He's not the stepfather. He's a father who stepped up. Like, I thought I heard that, but don't quote me on that. So I thought the whole exchange was actually really sweet. And I love them together. And I'm putting aside my distaste for his speech. Because I can hold space for multiple things at once.

31:59It was a very cute moment. And it was a really. Oh, and then he couldn't remember. He was thanking everyone on his team and his family and his family and his family. And he's like, I feel like I'm forgetting. And then they cut to Georgina. And she's screaming, your mom, your dad, your parents. She's literally telling him who he forgot. They're totally in love. They're a real couple. They are parche. Like Kylie and Timothy. they're so kylie timothy were on camera quite a bit because you know in the monologue they love to like poke fun at everyone and timmy had like a whole bit with adam sandler and kylie was like cut out for like a lot of the i was wanting to scream at the cameraman zoom the fuck out another reason why it's a disgusting program zoom out kylie's here and then when they did show her she seemed to like not want to be laughing at jokes either she didn't understand them or she didn't want to like you know a laugh is an endorsement yeah she was just being very political Yeah.

32:48No, she definitely is diplomatic and doesn't want to. Like, and also something could, she might have, yeah, just staying out of it. But they can't keep their hands off each other, those two. And they've been dating a while now. So you would think, like, the lust era might have ended. But no, they're obsessed. And Pauline was there. I love to see Pauline out there shaking that thing. Kimberly from Sex Lives of College Girls. Yes. I think he has another brother, too. But he's not in Sex Lives of College Girls. So I don't know him. Yeah. But they all took, like, a family photo. Kylie skipped the carpet but met him right at the seats, you know, letting him have his moment.

33:20Timothy looked really cute in his yellow outfit. He did. I liked his yellow outfit. It was a good night for them. Even though his movie took home not one award. I didn't think it was deserved. None of these movies were good, by the way. Like, it was a particularly bad year for movies. Because when you think about last year, like Elvis, right? Like, even though it didn't win everything, it was like glamour and everyone was talking about Istanbul. There was like nothing like that this year. Oh, yeah. But see, people refuse to give wicked. Even myself. Like, look, I'm so, as a critic myself, I'm so sort of a nerd to not giving it the credibility it deserves, even though it is.

33:49Like, it was the biggest movie of the year. If we can talk about Barbie at the Oscars in a real way, we could talk about Wicked at the Oscars in a real way. More so than Barbie. Also, even though I really liked Elvis, I wouldn't even, I don't think it was that good. Yeah. You know, I enjoyed it. But you know what I mean? I'm saying. Like, that's kind of like Rocket Man. That was like a good, stupid movie. and like Bohemian Rhapsody was a more serious version. I don't know what the difference was but like Bohemian Rhapsody deserves awards. Rocketman doesn't. Speaking of Rocketman, Diane Warren lost again.

34:20I believe it was her 16th Oscar loss and just give the woman a fucking Oscar. Give her an Oscar especially because this wasn't a year where there was, you know, a let it go from Frozen like something undeniable. Of course we could have skipped Amelia Perez and also Oscars are about a body of work, right? Sometimes it's not just about what you did this year but like everything in the past. Leonardo DiCaprio winning for Revenant. Give it to Diane Warren. Also, that song sounded parche. That song did sound really good. I hadn't heard of the song with her, but it sounded really good. And the winner was Amelia Perez.

34:50Like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, this was the year to give it to Diane Warren. Of all the reasons why Amelia Perez, like, was the worst movie and so offensive was because of the music. It was seriously, like, bad music. So for them to have won the music category was offensive. It was. then best supporting actor man uh man went to kiernan kolkin a real pain i really liked his speech i didn't realize what it was lacking until you shared but your bar is very very high it's him and his cousin go to poland after their grandma who's a holocaust survivor dies i didn't i almost did but it again i have such a hard time i can acknowledge like how close and that's what even we were saying about nobody wants this like i'm we're so critical of anything that reflects our culture because it's usually bad so I was just not in the mood to like take umbrage with the film do you know what I mean yes set in modern times it's not like an old school they're like I saw a review of it that was actually looked like a good review made me want to watch a movie it's like two guys are trying to like stave off a midlife crisis so they go to the camps you know to kind of put things in perspective like life's not so bad I saw there was a funny quote it's like you're the product of like a thousand miracles because like their grandma survived and you're going to overdose on sleeping pills like i don't think so right um right that's funny yeah and so i was like actually this looks good i actually might watch it but then they showed a clip from it the two boys are on the train like talking about the train ticket and they're like uh something about the 12 train ticket and how they used to live here but they were all kicked out because they're cheap they thought we were cheap i'm like yeah really all right right that's right so i i didn't watch it because i really wasn't in the mood to like be a hater again do you know what I mean it's so hard.

36:27Because it needs to be perfect. I need to pick and choose my battles. And it's definitely not going to be. But I did see a good review. I feel like there's hope. Except for then I saw the clip. And I had no problem with him. Who else was nominated in the category? Anora, Yura, Edward Norton, a complete unknown. Motherfucker Pierce, the brutalist. And Jeremy Strong, the apprentice. So the only other person that I thought should have won. Which is funny considering I have such a hate for Anora. Is the guy who was nominated. because he was an amazing actor. The movie was bad. This is what I'm saying.

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36:58You have to separate the performer from the performance. Onora was such a dumb movie. This guy was actually an amazing actor. He's relatively unknown, and you couldn't get a read on him the whole time. He actually was a really important person in the movie. So if anything from Onora was going to win, I wanted it to be that guy because I liked his character, and he did an amazing job. But whatever. Whatever. Then Best Director went to Onora. All in all, like it was just such a dumb evening. Like the movies were dumb. The people were dumb. Oh, you didn't say Zoe Saldana. Did we say Zoe Saldana? Oh, no, sorry.

37:30I meant to go back. Yeah, best supporting actress Zoe Saldana. Amelia Price. And I just wanted to say I thought her speech was out of control. Classic. Like she was really nutty at the Golden Globes. And it was like funny but weird. And she just brought the same energy. I thought she was really nutty. I actually loved the way that she looked. I thought she looked – I've seen a lot of like hate for her dress. I thought she looked beautiful. And I just thought it was like such a crazy speech. Like I was just like, oh, it was a lot. And then she went backstage and was doing press and she got asked a question because the movie's been like highly criticized.

38:05Especially by, no, by Mexicans. Yeah, no, but I mean not by critics, by people. Yes, right, by fans. And there was a reporter from like a Mexican publication who was Mexican herself and was like, what do you say to like the people in Mexico who were just like really disheartened to see you like make a film at the heart of Mexico when all you're talking about is like drug cartels and murder, which is like something we are known for that we shouldn't be. We have other things to offer, like a beautiful culture. And she basically told this woman to go fuck herself. She was like, we, yeah, made the movie in Mexico, but it's not about Mexico.

38:36It's about four women. It couldn't have happened anywhere. It's about the women. And it was actually like a really media trained answer. She really gaslit her because she was like, I'm so sorry. We never mean to cause any offense, but this movie was made with love. and like we like you can think that and you have every right to but here's why it's dumb no i kind of like that's and she was just sort of like cutting out mexico from the she was like yeah we might have filmed in mexico but it was fucking irrelevant like nobody cares about mexico and it was like well actually the whole the whole movie i agree it was done in spanish it was actually really about mexico yeah it was the backdrop and the same way that like brighton beach was the backdrop of anora and um the anora girl like thanks the people of brighton beach the movie can be about four women and Mexico.

39:22Right. But also, the movie was special because the woman in particular, Amelia, was a Mexican cartel drug lord before transitioning to becoming a woman. What was her name before she becomes Amelia? Oh, she had like a drug cartel name, like the monster or something. Like El Chapo. you know like i don't know what like i don't realize what like the government name was but the drug cartel had like a name and it was like the leader of it was like el chapo yeah yeah like a like a nickname yeah a nickname like dirty yeah like a surname you know yeah i kind of want to just just know i just really like i really did not enjoy the oscars at all and i'm annoyed because like i was really curious to see if like for the first year where i watched almost all the movies would it have been a different experience?

40:18And maybe if I had chosen a different year, like where the movies were, like they were competitive, like if there were so many good movies that we couldn't even choose, you know? But oh my God, it was seriously, like this is the state of filmmaking. James Cameron is rolling over in his grave. Like it was so lame. And every movie was like stupid. And I don't know, I just, it wasn't giving Oscars. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but I think this is what the Oscars are giving now. I guess. But even when I think about recent years, like there are movies that stand out that we still talk about. Like Green Book, you know?

40:53Like Green Book. Do you know what I mean? Like none of the movies from this year will be remembered besides Wicked. Green Book is a great movie. Green Book was an amazing movie. And I remember that year we watched a lot of the movies. Also, the one with the billboards. Oh, the. Francis. Yeah, we watched that one. I can't believe you watched that. That was a bad movie. But I'm saying every year, like, there are movies to watch. Yeah. I didn't think that movie was so bad, actually. Yeah. If something happens to their daughter and they take out billboards in, like, this small town. Like, I'm just saying, movies come to mind in recent years that I've seen.

41:35Like, I don't think we'll be talking about these films ever again. I agree. And just to circle back, Amelia Perez's original name. the nickname was Manitas. Does that sound right? That's what I mean. Yeah. Means handyman or man who does jobs. Okay. Like. Go off, Amelia. When that Amelia Perez songwriter started singing on stage, like I knew we had to, like I needed to turn it off. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was just kind of like a great end to this run for Amelia Perez. Correct. And they were nominated twice in the song category. Like it's fucking crazy. I guess like no other musicals really came out this year that were really.

42:20But the original song category doesn't do musicals. Like people write songs for the soundtrack. No, but usually it's like an animated movie. Like they always have like Coco. There's always one. Yeah. Moana. Yeah. So that's why it's surprising. And that's why this was the year to give it to Diane Warren because there was nothing that was undeniable. Yeah, it's true. Do you feel like you're done talking about the Oscars? Yeah. there really like actually wasn't even that much to say I guess I didn't have like that many hot takes just so like I didn't like Conan I thought Anora was like not worthy not worthy and understood no I'm in a place um where I'm very removed from this year's Oscars the movies the ceremony like turning it off like thank you for it was a good year for you to skip thank you for offending me because I wanted to turn it off and now I had cause um just pile of shit it was a good year to skip yeah well maybe next year better luck next year are you ready for our next story yeah kourtney kardashian addresses the viral rumors that her son mason 15 reminder 15 reminder to us 15 has a baby in a rare statement so this is what she said i rarely address rumors or conspiracies regarding myself or my family but this is about my child and it feels wrong to let anyone think for a second that these lies are remotely true they are not i'm hanging my head in shame me i am hanging my head like me as i read this i thought that's what you were saying that she wrote that i'm like i didn't read that part of those i'm sorry unquote jackie saying as i read this i am hanging my head in shame back to the quote mason does not have a child these accounts that pretend to be him are definitely not they are fake my son really values his privacy and i'm asking all media to please be respectful he's a kid with feelings and a beautiful life ahead of them please stop spreading false narratives and spinning lies and to all the other people making videos about my kids who, by the way, are minors, please stop and leave them alone.

44:11Okay. Now, I just want to say, I feel good that Claudia brought it up. Oh, bitch. I didn't make it a story and Claudia brought it up. That's what I want to say. I want to say that I feel a little bit of peace knowing she's not referring to us directly because she's talking about people who make the accounts. Yeah, the video that I saw where it's like someone talking, talking ahead of green screen in front of this fake screenshot of Mason's fake Finsta. that's she's talking to that person she's talking to the people who make the finstas the people who like spread i guess like that technically was us but and i'm sorry like she's so right i some lessons need to be learned the hard way i am hanging my head in shape i shouldn't have brought it up it just like it came across my desk and like that's why i hate this job sometimes like you're forced to do things that you don't and i knew it was wrong like out of character i knew it was wrong like you are of course and you know what even if mason did have a child still none of our business oh speaking of you know what I'm gonna watch this week I've seen a lot of uh talk about it on social media um Ruby Frankie Hulu documentary like the mommy blogger yeah apparently like apparently she like filmed a lot of her abuse like as vlog content like yelling at everyone um and like didn't delete it so they have a lot of things from her hard drive and I've been seeing it go viral on social media and that was a story that I like I know about but I don't know a lot of the details so I think I'm gonna add that to my list let me know how it is if you would recommend it I would maybe watch it but I it let me know if it's like really upsetting bothersome yeah well also like you know I think a lot of people have been asking me like turdy are you gonna put your kids on social media and I'm definitely not um and I think that this documentary will only further my decision like I I don't judge people who put their kids on social media but I think that after watching this documentary I might start to judge them yeah also something that's been in the news is that new California law that we haven't spoken about but California now has a law that if your kids are in your content if you do like a family channel if they're in like what is it 30 percent 30 percent of your content then you need to give them earnings and like put it in a an account for that by law if you're if your kids account for 30 percent of your content then 65 percent of the revenue that the kids bring in needs to be put into a trust for the child this is like a new child labor child exploitation law that passed in california a couple of weeks ago and i actually think it's a great law um and a lot of people are talking about it online actually and they're kind of targeting a couple of creators because like the labrant family i don't know if you know who that is they're like a big they're one of the biggest youtube family channels they have like five kids now um they're moving out of california and people are like well it's because they don't want to pay their kids and i don't know if that's true or not um but then britney xavier who's a tiktoker who makes content with mostly her husband and their like 18 year old daughter but they also have two other kids um who get who get in the content she's also moving to Tennessee and people are like well it's because you don't want to pay your kids she actually responded she was like are you fucking kidding me like I obviously every time my kids are in um a video of mine and I've said this for years I pay them um we're moving out of California for x y and z they're like you know I think she wants to like live on a farm she's very like homesteadery there are other valid reasons for wanting to move out of California especially after the fires so it's not because people don't want to pay their kids I also follow Brittany Xavier and it's like it's not she's not like a family channel like yeah her kids are there sometimes like for something but it's like that's not what she does no you can tell when like a parent sets up a tripod in the kid's room and like holds a gun to their head to like dance on camera um that's not Brittany Xavier I agree the LeBrant family does definitely they're a family channel and a family like that a hundred percent like this law is good for them it's fabulous and as long as they're like good people they would have already been doing something like this so it shouldn't change and if they're if this really changes their operation then they're not operating in good faith agreed like this should be something that like doesn't even change people's day-to-day because they were doing something like this because they were already doing it yeah yeah so we'll see if any big people start leaving but I really don't think that's why no I don't either and I actually don't think that California is like the most popular place for family channels to exist I I feel like it's like a lot of Utah, a lot of Texas.

48:19Like I don't think that it's a very California-like thing. Yeah, agreed. Because they're the elk of dreamers. Right, back to Mason. I just want to say like, I'm sorry. I was wrong. And I'm sorry for - I'm sorry to Courtney. Dragging you down. No, it was so wrong. It was so wrong. I didn't say that I believed it. I just like was remarking on how crazy it was that people were saying it. Like it was already, I didn't make it a thing. So I don't want to take responsibility for that. But like I shouldn't have brought it up. It's gross. I believe I said there's beauty in it. which if true like I would stand by because I think it would be a beautiful thing.

48:50Yeah. A baby is a blessing. Yeah. And we were there was actually like some sweet parts like a baby would have a great great living grandmother. Like there was there was beauty in it. Yeah. I guess I guess we did talk about it like at length. I'm going to that back. We were wrong for bringing it up. I blame Claudia and now we're moving on. And you know who I blame? Whoever sent me that TikTok. Yeah. I forget who it was. But like we will think like five times before we speak. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Number four? Number three. Claudia, if you have to ask. Oh my God, we need to hustle.

49:25I'm testing this theory because someone said every time Claudia asks what number story it is, it's always number three. So like now every time you ask, we need to check. Well, especially recently I've been asking because in our new studio setup, you don't have a clock near you where you can see the time. And I actually think you need one because like you would be moving differently. I just need to move my roadcaster away from the likes. It's the reflection that stops me from being able to see it. But it is our third story and I'm going to carry on with it. Please. Because Bethany Frankel says that Alex Earl stood her up for dinner.

49:54So Bethany had a long weekend in Miami that was very early because she was supposed to go to dinner with Alex and Braxton at Carbone. She gets to the restaurant. She starts filming for everyone that Alex and Braxton stood her up. So she eats alone with her phone and takes everyone through the menu and whatnot. but there was like no by blood she said that they're going to reschedule then they were seen together they made some tiktoks together they had dinner the next night like they made it right they went out apparently alex was sick from all of her travel and she couldn't make the original dinner that's not what happened what happened so bethany tiktoks all the time you know like she makes like a lot of content every day and that night she makes a tiktok the first one from the series and it's like you know when the hot young influencer like stands you up for dinner yeah and people started spiraling and bethany then like made a thousand tiktoks about it explaining that they had this dinner plan she wasn't sure if braxton was coming but it was totally her and alex and it was at carbone and she gets to the table they gave her this great table and she texts alex being like by the way they sat me in the corner and you know when bethany's telling the story she's being like you know they're young they're kids so like i'm sure they're gonna be late she's just being like a little derogatory the whole time and then alex calls her and she's like oh my god is that tonight she was like i totally mixed up the dates like i'm so you know crazy from traveling i'm so sorry super apologetic um but she got the date wrong and she didn't stand her up she just like mixed it up it was a mistake and bethany then like decides to just be like fuck it you know i'm having dinner by myself at carbone she has this fabulous meal she's taking videos of herself eating you know the whole thing being like when somebody stands you up like be your own independent woman and like have dinner by yourself and she was like i'm gonna sit here for you guys so i could take you yeah i hate that it's like i'm fine and i'm hungry she's like well i'm at this bougie restaurant basically the undercurrent being like that you guys could never be at and so i'm gonna eat here for you and what was annoying it's like she's at carbone and she's like i'm not having pasta tonight i'm gonna have a fish and a salad like i don't need to see we eat a fish and a salad i want to see that rigatoni it's so true show me the tony so the next day like the content doesn't stop from bethany being like get unready with me getting you know stood up yeah miami dinner fit to not meet alex right so she's just like kind of beating a dead horse and alex is like you know being you know uh a good sport leaving comments being like oh yeah i hear that alex are all socks and then the next night they get together alex brings her like a dozen roses they make a million tiktoks about it like all good now i just want to say And I think that I've met Alex Earl a couple of times.

52:22I do not know her by any means. But like the vibe that I got is she's an extremely nice girl. And I do not think like the crazy rise to fame has affected her at all. I think she's really down to earth. Her friends from college are still her best friends. Like she's really. Except for Sandra. I think she's a. Except for Sandra. I think she's a really, really nice girl. Yes. And I really believe that. Good vibes. Yeah. And so. And I think if anything like her fault is like maybe she's a little naive. I think that might have been the case with the unwell thing that we've just been talking about. because if I'm Alex Earl, I'm like, I'm kind of hating Bethany because - You think Alex Earl is being too nice about this?

52:58Yeah, and I think that if we never, I wouldn't be surprised if we never see these two interact again. Like, Alex wanted to make it right, like go to dinner, like yeah. But, I don't know. Mistakes happen. I don't believe in any way that she didn't show up in bad faith and like wanted to stand up Bethany Frankel. I think it really was a mix up. She's a young girl. She has a lot going on. She parties a lot. Like, it happens, right? And what's the worst feeling than being like, Like someone's at the restaurant in your pajamas. Like I'm sure she felt fucking horrible. Like really, really horrible. So to then like have Bethany make, I swear, 20 TikToks about it.

53:28And I'm not even exaggerating. And it's just like beating home. Like this thing you're probably embarrassed about that you feel bad about. I just felt like Bethany did a little too much. And I know Bethany. This is Bethany's shtick. That's why she's as successful as she is. It's like every time something minor happens. Like she went to a Chanel store and she said that they turned her away because she looked ugly or whatever. Like she makes it a moment. And that's how she's so relevant. And it's brilliant like media strategy. And so this is what she does. And I just feel like if I'm Alex Earl, like I'm a little annoyed.

53:54Yeah, I think there was a point to where it was like, okay, now we're eating. And if I was Alex Earl, I'd be glad that she's getting all this content from me. Because it's like, okay, now I don't feel so bad. At least, yeah, I could give her this. She had a viral dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I do hope that like at some point it stops, you know, or it stopped like at dinner. I hope they had a nice dinner. We don't know what happened at their dinner. like what they were talking about what their relationship was before this because I just saw Bethany doing a video about the Licks versus Lex drama and she was saying that she's met both women there's no drama they're both amazing it was a particularly bad take and Bethany usually has very good I thought it was a bad take too but I think it was just like she wanted to weigh in I think she has relationships with both of them and both of them didn't want to say anything that would piss off the other and so and maybe this is actually how she sees it because I think what she's saying is I think what she wants like it's definitely a thing that could happen just two people in business and it's business and it's whatever and that's true sometimes yes she wants that to be true but I don't think that's what happened here it's so not true and Alex actually over the weekend was doing a get ready with me licks and she licks she on tiktok like very briefly mentioned um she's been like there's been like a lot of chatter online like about the podcast and honestly like I was I'm just as surprised as you guys that's all she said basically being like the drop was surprise to her I don't know she didn't she really glossed over it no I think there's so many things that can mean and she left us like leaving it one more one I think surprised by the use of the word drop that that's how that they would phrase it she was definitely surprised by that or two it's like maybe they were battling for a while like I want to leave I want to take my show no you can't you're with us blah blah blah and maybe it was going on for months ever since the papa got involved the papa and then maybe all of a sudden they let her go like maybe they just laid down their arms for whatever reason and she was surprised that they just gave it up like that was her way of finding out maybe yeah or that like she was surprised when she heard the news like actually you can walk and here's your show and bye bye and here's and then the drop i think there were elements of it that were surprising to her so i feel like that is a good way of phrasing it okay euphemistic but you know she's keeping her cards close she's very shrewd well when it comes to the bethany thing like i just want to say if we never see these two hanging out again i think that's why i feel like even the comments the comment section what i got from this is that they have a deeper friendship than we know where they can like barb like this on social media but what do i know i don't i don't think so i don't think so um even the comments at first were like oh my god lol like fun fun and then everybody was like okay bethany you're really like beating a dead horse like did you have to make 30 tiktoks about it like so the narrative started to change um and i'm just i'm actually really curious what alex's thoughts on it are like oh all in good fun or like okay back off a little bit yeah i wonder what they're having dinner about yeah just like miami girls yeah business women tiktokers tiktokers now before we continue are you ready for the next story if it's brought to you by no bull the footwear brand for training and for daily life built to support you in your pursuit of physical mental and emotional strength we love noble because they celebrate a no bullshit approach to wellness there's so much crap out there especially in the wellness space there's trends fads empty promises and noble is really a mentality you are the only one who can make yourself better and they're known for their best in class award-winning footwear they have options across training lifestyle they We have options for everyone.

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1:01:58There's a photo shoot. Okay, this is the first I'm hearing of this, but is anybody else like really shook? Yeah. By her being on People Magazine? I feel like to promote her new Netflix show, she's a former princess, like she could have gotten the cover of Vogue. Yeah. People Magazine. It's very pedestrian. I saw it this morning when I was reading People Mag, like it's their cover, it's their top story that she's on the cover. And at first I just read the interview to just like see what she's saying. And it's exactly what you would think. It's the vibes and the, and the, you know, cozy mornings.

1:02:27They love a fried egg. We love a lot of bacon. A couple interesting things, which I'll share. But then finishing it, I'm like, hmm, this is your big magazine interview before your big Netflix show, which by the way, I just saw is only eight episodes. Like that's not enough, but okay. um i would have thought maybe okay maybe not vogue reach for the stars something hollywood reporter l variety w w yeah so i'm really shocked at because this is like and people magazine has done a really good job in separating themselves from like the other airport magazines but it is a tabloid yeah no but also it's like it's where people go when they want to give an interview and be intimate and personal but not the queen no when you're megan marco like you're supposed to have options better than this yeah even like and it's not even like it's september like home and garden would have town and country would have been inspired and would have been like super pardy but like we see this from reality stars like you know the bachelor hack has been on the cover of people magazine yeah yeah that's really strange now that i think about it it really is um that was my when you because i've never heard the story until you just brought it up i didn't know that she did this interview and my first thing was like lowbrow yeah she's not really saying much that we don't already know however the Lemonada podcast was mentioned it says that it's coming in the spring that's all it said but now it's like well she's gonna have a tv show and a product brand like you don't also need a podcast that's too much no she should have spread it out because she's been like relatively quiet business-wise for like the last year or two since the Lemonada podcast was announced and that would have been a good time for her to do the podcast you have to space these things out.

1:04:05Yeah. I actually feel like her and Harry are not good at spacing things out. Like they go dark for a while and then they do book, Netflix, the games. What are the, what are the games? Invictus. They do like a million things at once. And then they overlap so hard and then they go dark. It's like they need to make the money so they work hard for six months and then they spend the money for the next year. Like they need to spread it out a little bit better. Yeah, well I do think this is like her, you know, goal for spreading it out is to March 4th. Wait, it premieres today. It's coronation day. Oh my God.

1:04:36Are you going to be? No. Today's March 3rd. I can't. Okay. That's good. I have to finish my book. Thank God. Honestly. Thank you, Megan. Because like I have to read all day. But to the list of things we're still waiting for, say spring 2025. Write that down. Wait, wait, wait. Megan's Lemonada. Wait, Claudia. It's already on the list. I just know us. Did you say spring? Countdown to Megan X Lemonada. What does it say? Spring? Oh, no. Now I'll add our trajectory. Now we have a general window. okay but spring like so she has until june 21st right and spring starts technically march 21st right yeah well you know my beef with this march 20th i know i know with rebecca but i'm saying it's technically three weeks away so lemonada could be dropping as soon as three weeks or as late as three months okay we have our window what else mayhem lady gaga we're waiting for i would have forgotten about that she's getting to work like abracadabra things we needed to follow up on Beyonce announcement we can check that off thank you oh yeah tour keeping up with sports unfortunately we can't check still radio silence and then the Carrie Underwood concert DVD which I do think has come out yes I saw it on Hulu I didn't watch it but I saw that it was there and then our content plate let's see if we got to any of this okay Shogun no no and the time has passed you can take it off I'm not watching it I'm gonna leave it Lioness back in action oh that's Cameron Diaz, Jamie Foxx.

1:06:02Wait, I need to add that to the list of family. Next time we need a movie as a family. No, actually, I disagree. I would not agree. I would not, like, if we all sit down on the couch, be like, yeah, let's watch that. I would be a naysayer to that movie. What if it was, like, me, you, and our husbands? That's kind of perfect. Yeah, I would say no. Oh, my gosh. Like, first of all, that movie came out and nobody moved. I heard not one thing. I heard not one thing about the movie. I know, but these days, like, you'll hear if it's bad, too. There'll be, like, clips clowning on it. That's true. Okay, so see you tomorrow, Megan.

1:06:33I can't friggin' wait. Are we ready for the fifth and final? I can't wait for next summer. I'm counting the days. Counting the days. We are ready for the fifth and final, and I do feel like you might have not seen it yet, which is exciting. Friggin' news. Ingrid Andres has taken another stab at the national anthem. So, and I do mean stab. The people are saying that she slayed, but I don't think that she did. No, the thing is, is that Ingrid Andres, the whole saga about her being drunk at the All-Star game, if you don't remember, she sang the National Anthem at the MLB All-Star game last year so horrifically, so offensively, and she literally dropped a statement being like, I'm an alcoholic, this is rock bottom, see you guys later.

1:07:18And she went to rehab, she's been kind of quiet since, and now as a part of her comeback, she sang the National Anthem at another baseball game, which I actually think was a really good way for her to come back. It was a hockey game, but sure. Whatever. She did it to the best of her abilities, but the thing is, she never should have been tapped in the first place. She's not that type of singer. She's a very sweet, very moody, yes, very like Nora Jones. Like Maggie Rogers. I don't need to hear Maggie Rogers sing the National Anthem. She doesn't belt. You need, like, Broadway people sing the National Anthem.

1:07:50People with really soulful voices. She never should have been tapped. And so, even when she was going to come back and do her best, it still wasn't gonna be like good well so here's what I got from this she sang the national anthem like the Ingrid Andres way not drunk and now I can understand like I thought it was like not a good what she was trying to do yes like the other one was so crazy but it was like the drunk version of this which is already a little crazy because it's not like there was just a lot of long notes and a lot of like riffs and I didn't love the like she nailed what she tried to do but I don't like what she tried to do so now I can also understand how things got so off the rails at the last one because she was already going with like a twisted version no and like her best version was never going to be particularly amazing yeah and there is the bar was low also like even her best sober version like sounds drunk so then when she's drunk like it's a mess although I think like strategy wise this was a great way for her to get back out there and like kind of right the wrong there was a lot of ways she could have come back and I don't know if I would have suggested doing another national anthem but I kind of love it.

1:08:56No it's hysterical and I did feel like the audience I don't know if they were briefed like okay she's coming back redemption because it felt like everyone was like rooting for her to like get it right this time. It felt like everyone in the room like knew the assignment so I agree that and I'm a huge huge Ingrid Andres fan. I don't feel like I've said that. Her songs like actually make me cry and I love them. It needs to be said. I love no I absolutely like if she drops an album I'm listening backwards and forwards so this is as a fan I'm glad that we can move on from this because yes yes I wasn't even gonna hold a grudge but we do just need to close the chapter chapter equals closed I hope Ingrid is doing well Michio sending well wishes to Ingrid and maybe like let's stay away from sporting events it's not it's not your thing like even sober yeah yeah and so good on her team for um for recognizing this moment.

1:09:48Completing the circle. Now let's talk about Love is Blind. Quick TV recap because seriously nothing happened except obviously like so much so much happened for me to hate. And I'm gonna I'm gonna. That should be the title of today's episode. There were three episodes released. We started with five couples and we're now down to four. Thankfully Dave and Lauren broke up because watching them for one more minute like was so painful it was actually cruel to make this girl be in a relationship with this guy who just refused to believe her refused to champion her refused to defend her and meanwhile she's like a doormat being like love me love me I'll do anything for you like it was really painful so to see her in the smallest way stick up for herself and she didn't even really because he broke up with her but she she like made him break up with her which I appreciate because if she just broke up with him that's exactly what he wanted to like get out of this relationship so I like that she made him do it but I just like it was really painful to watch somebody like not even remotely stick up for themselves and she knew she was right like it was it was such a painful relationship to be a part of I'm so glad it's over yeah so I'm still on the honeymoons but from Dave and Lauren what I find surprising is like I feel like she's very unsure about him and so it's kind of this is before all the drama with the guy that he knows whatever but I do feel like she's like projecting these things onto their relationship like they never even had a fair shot like I feel like from the minute she saw him like she knew something was wrong and and she never let him in even not that she should because he turned out to not be a great guy but like she there was always a blockage between them and it wasn't like she was like oh dave i love you no i feel like she was really committed to letting this process work like slowly and like even by the honeymoons like she was open to like you know becoming a a real couple and i think that if he had let her in more like with and not made the whole drama such a big deal.

1:11:37Like they probably wouldn't have gotten married, but she was really committed to the process like of taking it slow, of getting to know, getting engaged, moving in. And he just like refused to move forward once he found out that like she had a boyfriend, sorry, she slept with somebody like a week before the show. He was such a prick and it was just like the obsession with the sister. First of all, we never got the sister. We never got a single one of his friends on the show. And he really made her feel like that was her fault, being like, well, now my sister, nobody wants to be a part of the show because you had sex with somebody two weeks before coming here.

1:12:04And she was like, well, my family didn't really want to be a part of the show, but half of them did. And the ones that didn't agree to meet you off camera. So like, why can't anybody come to the table? Why is everything, everything was Lauren's fault. It was actually painful to watch him. Like seriously. And then the next like couple of nights later, everybody gets together and old people come Dave and Lauren come and Molly comes. Molly is the redhead. The redhead. We're very used to like people in the pods, you know, being in a threesome. And then like the couple breaks up and the third, the girl then goes and like tries to get with Dave.

1:12:35And let me tell you how refreshing it was to like hear Molly and Lauren chat. Lauren tells Molly the whole story. She's so disgusted. She's so riding hard for Lauren. She doesn't, she's not even remotely interested in, they don't even talk. Like she's not even interested in any of it. It was so refreshing to see somebody like really not like looking out for their own interests, just being like, oh, I'm going to believe Lauren that this guy sucks and I'm going to stay away. Like it was just such a clean, I made me like Molly so much. and she was like listening to the story so animated being like, you're kidding.

1:13:05Oh my God, he's disgusting. It just made me like her so much and it was really refreshing. We never get that. Because another example, Madison, Mason, and Meg, the threesome. Hold on. Aunt girl. Okay, and no one got together. Right. Right. So everybody comes to this party and turns out Meg and Mason have been seeing each other. Like they connected offline. um it's it sounded like like kind of pargy you know especially because like the way that they ended was not right the thing is he did choose the other girl first like he did but whatever no I know but Ben Platt explained it really well to Madison when he was defending Mason because he was like yeah sometimes you feel stronger but then when someone else feels better about you like then you go in that way I don't think it's such a bad thing and yet if the your first choice doesn't want you then let me go with my second choice like i just don't think that that's a big deal i think no and to normalize that yeah in this process madison madison is just fucking dreadful like she comes to this party and there's so much drama you know like she was at the airport and ben platt wanted to meet her and they give her a hug and then he starts talking shit about mason she's telling this cockamamie story i should follow it well that's the other thing i don't believe anything she says and she's telling the story like she still wants to be the main character of this show and because she didn't get like to the honeymoons she needs to find another way and I still don't care if everything she's saying is true like I still don't give a shit like her lie yeah I just like I don't care and they never even followed up on it like after last night's episodes and then we're at the weddings now so she makes this whole drama and still nobody cares like there's no moving the needle with her she's just like she's not a main character sorry so Dave and Lauren break up it was really painful she actually shares that um he went to go see his sister off camera and she wrote a letter to the sister just like explaining who she is and like that she really really cares about Dave and that um everything being said about her is not true and she just like really wants a chance to meet the sister and show her that she is going to be an amazing wife and Dave didn't even give the letter to his sister I know I seriously hate hate hate I had a bad feeling about him in the pods but this is worse than I imagined they're broken up and now the rest of the episodes are just like the final touches on everybody's couples before the wedding they do the bachelor parties they go uh to the mall as their bachelorette party um it was really sad oh and i'm sorry and they do it they they made it they made it a theme night well i guess the thing in minnesota that they're known for is the mall of america there's like a big you didn't say the mall of america so the bachelorette party anywhere else was at the mall of america and they um also decided to make it a theme night and they dressed as like mary kate and ashley old ladies they wore like cardigans and pearls yeah that's it's really it's so funny so let me just give you let me give you an update on all couples i think the couples that we have the strongest chance of seeing get married are of course monica and joey who have really just been having good conversations making progress talking about family like really i like them so much and they had this really sweet conversation where he was like i really appreciated the fact that like the first time you met me people really write me off because i'm really goofy and i have this like positive personality and they think that you can't be that but also be like intellectual and I think people often think he's dumb it was like I just really appreciated like you seeing me for both sides of who I am like I am really smart but I'm also like goofy Joey it was so sweet like Jackie I love these two they're they make the show worth watching and I do think they'll get married I do is everyone like freaking out because like friends like Monica and Joey every time you say I think of friends no because Monica and Joey like don't end up together in friends yeah but it just sounds like the friends it does it does like when you say monica and joey i'm transported that's fine but you're also like not watching love is mine that's why you're transported the other couple that i'm trying the other couple that i shockingly think has a chance is shawty and taco bell nurse taylor and daniel oh yes oh my god and i saw their kerfuffle with the follows and jackie the kerfuffle with the follows does it come up ever comes up again okay it was so weird but it definitely made them stronger like any like any conflict I mean if I'm her and he's not mad at me and like making me feel I love him no he was so stalwart like his reaction was too good because he was like whatever you need he looks guilty yeah it was too like there's something there is something because his reaction was too perfect that it was wrong and let me tell you they have progressed so nicely I actually think they might get married he likes her so much I think she likes and this is where like love is blind it's like a good couple for love is blind because she had said she probably would have written him off just because of his height like it's just yeah is what it is and I actually think they're a great couple and the whole Christmas thing is really weird they're like two people who are obsessed with Christmas and that's like what they're like where should I eat my stocking Jackie they did their Christmas cards it's it's march oh my god well they at least have plans for the future and so i do see how she thought he was like faking it right because it's so crazy yeah it's so nuts but no they both are like so obsessed with christmas and i actually kind of like them i think that they'll go all the way i do i like that now we get to like the controversial couples who are probably not getting married Virginia and Devin what happened there they talk a lot about politics and it's clear he doesn't say like Devin and his family are Republicans and Virginia and her family are Democrats and it's like can they get past that and they're having these like political conversations in nobody wants to say anything right like you're on TV that could ruin your life I'm with you so so you're all you're they're in bed and like Virginia is clearly trying to bring up politics and we have to watch like 10 minutes of her circling the drain before she brings up like abortions and it's so painful like just ask the question and then they he you know he doesn't want to say he basically says that like a lot of his decisions are guided by his faith which I think he thought was a safe answer because they've really connected over both like being like God loving Christians and she like immediately hates that because she's seeing like you know like pro life energy and they're not saying any of this it's all subliminal but I'm sure it also there's I'm sure they've spoken about some stuff off camera.

1:19:27So it's like they have what to go off of a little bit, but we don't. So then he's like, she goes, well, what is your family typically like voting history? He's like, well, my family. And so first of all, just so you know, Devin's dad is black, mom is white. And so he has like a mixed race family. And he says, my family has historically voted pretty conservative. And then Virginia goes, oh, well, like my family has tend to voted like more progressive. more liberal leaning um you know because we're black and I didn't see anybody online being like that's kind of rude like Devin's family is black too yeah like it was like I think the word is colorist like it's like a thing in the black community like I'm less or more black than you I I could tell he was so offended by the remark and it was just very it was kind of he was like well my dad is black like what are you like what are you trying to say like what are you trying to say um and i felt like after that like they're done the con like and now i'm seeing so many like flaws because she has this prenup and he comes and reads it whatever and he just signs it you know because he's not getting married like they're not getting married and are there issues outside of the politics do you think or is this really no no but it's not like i talk about politics in the pod like if offline oh yeah and i think that the pod should allow people to talk about politics and that they shouldn't air it because you know there should be like private hours of the pods yeah yeah where you could talk about those things because like they could air it and it might not play well but you should be able to share what you feel because if you if you're someone whose politics is really important to you and someone's is diametrically opposed like you shouldn't you can't be together you shouldn't be together like it's an issue with virginia and devin like i don't think the politics is why they're not gonna end up together i just think like it's another because like you watch them and she says all the right things she's like so happy but there's like no life behind her smile like she's just sort of going through the emotions of this I don't think that they'll get married but like the opposite is happening with Sarah and Ben where I think they like each other a lot like I think they really have a lot of potential and she really likes him and I think she has like you know straight woman guilt for liking this guy who like goes to church like she's really into her social causes and her politics and like that's just not his thing you know he like is just but he said in in like the things that really matter to her like he would be happy to go to pride with her her sister is lesbian um he'd be happy to like go look at other churches that like are known for being inclusive like he's really being flexible yeah and he hasn't said anything he said like um wait he said something that was like my brain he was like

1:22:14whatever he was just basically saying like he hasn't given her anything he's not as passionate yeah but they don't inherently disagree on stuff he seems pretty apolitical which i think someone who's like passionate about politics and someone who's apolitical like i think that works great um i think it's when two people are passionate like an opposing i feel like there's just too many issues like that arise but i feel like they could work out and i think it sounds like she's gonna ruin it for herself or feels like she shouldn't be with him because she should be with someone more passionate but she could if these things are important to her and he loves her like they will be become important to him so we get to their wedding right up until like they're like sarah do you and then it ends um so we see her family and everything and so i think that like who's the first wedding sarah i'm bad we haven't seen any weddings yes so her sister and the sister's wife are like definitely like skeptical of the whole thing and they catch them on camera I don't think they realize they're on camera they're just waiting for her to come out in the dress and they're like I think she's gonna say yes but I think she's only gonna say yes because she thinks she has to like they're hating this whole thing they hate him like they do not want her to get married why don't they like him so it's actually funny because he is very similar to how she grew up her parents are very like you know god-loving Christians I think they're really end up with somebody who like they would approve of yeah it's like an ideal situation for them so she's kind of torn between like how she grew up and then her sister who sort of um i would say like uh is as it's further from the life that they grew up like knowing and so she wants to please both sides so i think that's what the sister was saying but i don't think the sister gets is like at the end of the day like i think sarah likes him so much and that just might take that just might be the end all be all yeah and and he like he says all the right things and And it sounds like he means them.

1:24:02And he's open to whatever. Yeah. I think they can grow together. Or I feel like he might just be saying. Because she brings something up. Well, that's tough when someone's saying everything you want to hear. And it's like, I don't believe the words coming out of your mouth. Well, I believed him. Because she wasn't saying anything crazy. Being like, my sister's gay. Would you hang out with her? Like, yeah. And then they come home. And his best friend is lesbian. Like, it's not a thing. But then she brings up on the last date of conversation. Being like, if our kid comes home at 12. and says that they want to transition.

1:24:32She like, and he's just like kind of agreeing with her. And I wasn't buying what he was saying. Like, I think that. So maybe he's going to say no. Maybe he doesn't. That's what I think. Everyone's like, what's she going to say? What's she going to say? I'm like, I don't know. I feel like this whole time he might be like placating. Yeah. Who do they ask first? Sarah? Her. I think she might say no. And he would have said no. We'll see. the other couple that remains is who did i get them all i feel like you did there were five dave virginia monica sarah and ben law and shoddy oh okay i got them all it's so boring one of the worst seasons i've ever watched i'm having fun recapping it i'm having no fun watching it it's like pulling teeth and i'm not gonna lie towards the end of this episode i did start skipping like The weddings you can fast forward all the way.

1:25:25We don't need to hear the recap of what we just spent five years watching. Correct. So that's where I do hit the fast forward. Hit the fast five. I don't need to watch them in the mirror being like, and also fucking lying to us because they're about to say no. Yes, that's the thing. That's what's crazy. I will like, I can't get over that. They seriously act like they're having a wedding and it's like, you're a saying no. Yeah. You're a saying no. So that's the Love is Blind recap. wow that was a long show we had a lot to do and I think we did it all I think we did too we didn't watch White Lotus last night no we'll just we'll catch up next week I know needed one by one is so painful I know that's our show you guys thank you so much for listening to the Toast on the Night Morning Show where we deliver the fast-paced stories you need to know every Monday Friday on YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube please don't forget to subscribe if you have a video thumbs up or subscribe if you have a podcast that never podcast we found so that's about iTunes and YouTube and your public video I already got a box so please leave this in podcast.

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