Paul American Girls: Monday, May 5th, 2025

0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast happy Monday you know what it's not an entirely terrible Monday do you want to know why because it's the Monday of the week that you're coming to New York and this is our last week doing remote pen pal podcasting until September until I'm a mother so let's enjoy this week next week is going to be so fun because we'll be podcasting together and we have so much fun stuff planned and that's a different sort of fun but like last week of routine last week of regularity what's the word like comfort habit habit yeah like the reg I love habit as I love change too but I also love habit nobody loves habit more than me that's true um and speaking of habits one I found myself in this weekend heavily inspired by my sister Jackie because I do listen to my sister and I feel as though I've proved that like time and time again but sure.

1:30No and definitely the window's getting shorter from like time I tell you about something to time that you do it because this was record time. Okay but like who are you stalling? I have to do it the second you say? Like I did it. When you're watching a show and you're like raving about it and you're talking about it on this show I feel the need to watch it. If I'm gonna watch it I feel the need to watch it like right now so we could talk about it together. it's literally still airing we are talking about it together like i were you getting season finale vibes from the last episode no because there was no like next week on by the way we're talking about greatest show on earth paul american this is the greatest show and let me tell you i've never seen a show like this in my life like you guys and when jackie was saying it i'm like she's seriously so weird like and i'm not a paul brothers fan i don't really i obviously know them i don't keep up with them.

2:17I'm not their intended audience for their content or their brands. Let me tell you, the show has infiltrated every crevice of my brain. I thought it'd be a good thing to watch with Ben because I know he finds them really interesting too, especially like their business acumen. You cannot deny how really smart they are. They don't get enough credit for, they're both worth like almost$200 million each. Like it's insane. So I knew Ben would like that. And I just wasn't expecting to learn so much about their family dynamic and them as people and like literally fall in love with Jake Paul. Like, I'm sorry.

2:49It's the Jake show. I have so many thoughts on every single character, but like they pale in comparison to my king, Jake. Jake and Yuta. Like I, if I don't get invited to their wedding, seriously, kill me. I'm obsessed with Yuta. And I think that like we all think we know Jake Paul, right? Like he's Jake Paul. like oh the fact that he has fallen in love with this like deeply accomplished driven woman when like you know guys like that all women are great models but yeah like he has chosen a life with someone who needs to live in the other side of the world for 10 months out of the year like i don't know i think there's so much more to jake paul especially he seems like a really healed person like he didn't mention therapy and i know he does like ayahuasca and spiritual like reiki and stuff but he these are things I never would have thought or said he's a deeply emotionally intelligent person yeah he did he did mention therapy that he started therapy yeah especially in the episode I watched last night which feels like the season finale episode six he does ayahuasca with his dad it's all about like how they grew up it's like an emotional episode and they really what I appreciate about the show is that they're giving everything to the show like yeah they're not skimping they're not saying you know we're not going here we're not they're airing it all out because they want this show to like have the best chance of success.

4:04They're very committed to this show. It's not just like a thing for them to do. I feel like if I'm where them, it's like, if we're going to do it, let's do it. And it has to be different from their other content. It can't just be like the highlight reel. That's their Instagram. That's their YouTube. Like, yeah, it has to go deeper. So there's no point in doing it if it's just going to stay on the surface. So they really went everywhere. they leave in like all these cancelable cancelable quotes from people even though they obviously at this point can't be canceled as logan said the show could be canceled but they can't by hbo yeah yeah so it's it's very raw and like whatever the experience that i'm having with jake paul i'm having like the opposite with logan like the thing is you're either a jake or a logan girl and i'm such a jake girl and again i didn't really know i knew a little bit of like when they moved to la They ended up like drifting apart, the whole Alyssa Violet thing.

4:56But it's obviously much deeper than that. And it's still like sort of rings. But they had that big fight about the podcast. I was so team Jake. Oh, yeah. What he said on the podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like who's he going to fight next? Muhammad Ali. I'm so team Jake. Like that was so rude. Yeah. So there are these like lingering brotherly issues that I feel like Logan is like kind of that toxic stereotypical, like doesn't want to talk things through, you know, not deep type of person, whereas Jake is like very embraces that sort of like earlier side of himself. Yeah. And it's like really sweet to see this like big boxer, like want to have those conversations.

5:34But it's like talking to a brick wall with Logan. And I think Logan is trying hard and caring a lot about what how he's perceived on the show. I think Jake is really being himself. And so Logan is trying to be authentic and open and honest and say things that like, you know, you know, I shouldn't say this out loud but and it's like no actually you shouldn't say that out loud like some of the things he was saying I'm like that's not you being open and honest that's just like kind of a window into like you being really fucked up like a lot of the conversation about the fact that he was having a daughter like I get it gender disappointment is totally valid and my god let it go like months later the baby's about to be born and we're still talking about it like it was just it was a little much I just I found his scenes and his scenes are more in line like I'm going through the same thing him and Nina are right now like I you would think that that is no I was like seriously about to skip I'm like give me Jake and Utah or give me nothing it's so funny because while I was watching I didn't have such like a different opinion of Jake and Logan I'm just like the Paul brothers and I like I thought about how they fight like there's definitely like this under current that they try to stay above jealousy yeah I think it's I think it's what they call sibling rivalry you know and like how everybody always talks about sibling rivalry as if it's like a universal experience and we always say like we just don't feel that way but I think that that's like what that is but do you like I feel like how I was receiving it was that there's like an element of jealousy coming from Logan but it's not for like it's not because Jake is even like that much more successful than like he is not yeah they both have very big things going on there maybe Jake I think I checked there like maybe he has a couple hundred thousand more Instagram followers but it's like negligible the difference in success so no logan's net worth is higher what would he be jealous of i don't know like just that it's a younger brother i i don't i don't know but that's just sort of the vibe i was getting i also found it very interesting that like logan shows up 100 for jake like every press conference every weigh-in every fight and jake was not there for any of his like big wwe stuff like the whole family they go to everything which i loved it's like Nina goes to Jake's fights like everybody's so supportive but Jake and maybe it's because he was like training for a fight you can't be like traveling or whatever but he like doesn't show up for Logan oh I didn't even realize that but I also feel like Jake has a fight once or twice a year maybe three times and Logan in the WWE is like maybe doing that every weekend at a certain point so it's like of course they're gonna go to three fights out of the year and they're the no but the big one in Cleveland with the big with the with the big jump yeah where was Jake right he wasn't there but the whole family was yeah that is weird it does it does feel like jake's stuff is more important but like it is yeah no but maybe it's just higher stakes maybe everyone's like fine with that maybe i just i i need more like i need more i thought the whole season was out i'm like cruising through the episodes and it's like oh new episode just released here's your last one excuse me no yeah it's episodic every thursday and i don't know i feel like that might have been the end of the season or maybe like part no way there was no next week God, they started serving me up like some Belushi show.

8:42Yeah, you know, I got Belushi too. Yeah, they're trying to like launch Belushi off the back of Paul. No, you guys, the Paul show is the best show I've literally ever seen. Love them or hate them. I feel like I felt ambivalent about them before. It is such a window into such an interesting lifestyle. And I actually, I knew they were wealthy. Their quality of life, like it's insane. Yeah. Like the planning of the wedding. So what I was saying is before I watch, before you watch, I was like, oh, the Paul brothers, like my opinion of them was just like the same. And then you were like, no, I love Jake.

9:17I hate Logan. And so you've successfully made me hate Logan. So when I watched the last two episodes, everything was said. I didn't make you hate anyone. Logan made you hate Logan. No, I know. But like I was able to see them apart. But also the fifth or sixth episode really shows how different they are. It was more about their differences as brothers. and you know I have to tell you who put me on to like really point so I was DMing with Girlboss Town she was like I'm obsessed with the show and she was like they're really very they mirror their parents a lot and I think that like Logan is much more like in the image of his father and Jake is much more like his mom like very sensitive and the mom is so sweet and I'm sorry like when they were talking about the divorce and how like the mom how Greg made sure everyone knew the kids knew mom cheated like she didn't cheat first of all like she fell in love and I just like hated Greg so much and I see a little bit of his like narcissism in Logan and I see a lot of like the mom's sweetness in Jake and like very innocent they said that like Nina will sometimes be like to Logan like your Greg is showing what do you think about Nina and Logan I I think that what I thought of them before the show might have been a little bit more idyllic I was like oh look at this Logan this like meathead falling in love having a baby and he's obviously changed and then he watched the show like no he hasn't changed he's just logan and she just like puts up with it she's so patient no but she finds him so funny like she's always laughing at his jokes she's so patient like every dumb thing i mean she would have to i yeah i know but like she i don't think she's faking it like i think they like really are in lockstep i really like i think they're really cute and i think she's such a value ad for the show agreed but i'm sorry like utah over here like t i die for utah and that drama with her speed skating team like i hadn't seen that when you told me that you loved utah so i didn't know like all the backstory about her um and she's kind of a warrior she is she's going for olympic gold at the 2026 olympics so we will be watching and cheering on utah you're gonna catch my ass being so invested in the 2026 winter olympics speed skating specifically she needs to win gold so that like her journey can be complete and she can settle down with jake and she said Like I know like every time I'm with my family, like I am leaving, like I need to get through the season and win and accomplish my goals.

11:32But like, I am leaving to be with Jake and like, it's literally Romeo and Juliet. I'm fucking obsessed with that. Like when they went to, I know this, like typically we would clown on this, but when they went to Puerto Rico to do, or Costa Rica to do ayahuasca and they went down to the beach and they started doing a workout together and they were like building, like they were just using the elements, like the sand and the rocks and the sticks. It was so cute. When they left the ayahuasca ceremony and he was like, how amazing was that and she was like I didn't feel anything no like that's the type of woman she is like I'm obsessed yeah I actually appreciated that because I feel like everyone who does ayahuasca like the handful of people are like it's life-changing and it's like well so everyone who would do it like we just come out a completely different person like no you have to be a certain type of person so Utah fell nothing Greg was unmoved like against it you know he tried I do feel like he tried but like no he didn't come out of it with the opposite perspective of Jake where it was like yes I did those things you know and I really feel I'm sorry.

12:26Expectations were so high for that. There's no way that it was the season finale. I'm going to be so upset. Yeah. I don't know. I had a dream about the Paul Brothers. I don't want to start any rumors. Wait, let's just like look at their Instagram and see if they're like season finale. All right, let me just ask chat. Like, how many episodes of American, what's it called? Paul American. Are on the first season on HBO?

12:55Chat is saying. Okay, Jake doesn't post about Paul American. Cool. Oh, yeah, he doesn't. He only posts about his deodorant. W? W. Oh, my God. What? The season finale is scheduled for May 15th. Episode seven. So episode eight. Okay, so we have two more episodes. But that's seriously not enough episodes. I thought we were going to get the Tyson fight. Maybe we will. I like that the show moves quickly, like months at a time. It's not like today and tomorrow. Yeah. Well, I think if we can use our platform, because the Paul Brothers definitely need our support in this. They don't have enough influence.

13:33So if we could use our platform to get people to watch the show, then maybe HBO will give them a season two faster. We need multiple seasons. I need a live stream, you guys. I need to inject it in my veins. It's the best show I've ever seen. And I was in a real like low after. Like, what do we watch? I know. Oh, I'm still passively watching full swing. I'll turn it on, watch 30 minutes. I'm enjoying it. No. But it's definitely the opposite sort of pace. Yeah. As PA. I just want to say, like, congrats. You found an amazing show. And I never would have given it a chance had you not championed it.

14:05Because, like, I obviously, like everybody else, I think, like, the Paul brothers, what's, like, it's not for me. Like, it's, like, and it's interesting. Like, their demographic is, like, actual teenage boys. Like, it's seriously not for me. I wouldn't be surprised if their actual fans, like, don't tolerate the show. Because it's, like, not enough antics. Not enough. They're talking about their feelings. Pranks. No. Also, like what high school boy watches reality TV? They don't. This is for the swirlies. Like Venn Diagram, high school boys, swirlies, Paul Brothers show. Yeah. And no, it's like they're definitely appealing to a new demographic.

14:36Like talking about raising families and falling in love. Like it's their feelings. Like it's a mature sort of elevated outlet for them. Yeah. Jackie, I could actually write like a fucking dissertation on the two brothers. That's what you're saying. Like they're being so real and open on the show. Like I know them. Like I literally know them. Yeah. They're doing a good job at being reality stars, but I really do feel like they're giving it their all. Like even when he's coming off his ayahuasca, like the part that plays after the credits and he was like talking about Logan, what things that he saw about Logan in his ayahuasca trip.

15:09He was like, Logan, we have to do an amazing reality show. No, also like Logan's so corny. Like that's kind of the word I would use to describe Logan. Like when they were in the first episode, when he made that like PowerPoint presentation to convince Nina to like hop on board for the reality show. Like I was just like corny, corny. Like I was not, I was not into it at all. I was like, I'm like a kind of a hater from like minute one. I feel like maybe I haven't noticed whatever Logan's doing. Cause like in that scene, I just couldn't believe I was watching like Nina Agdell on a reality show dated Leo.

15:41And now she's sitting on the couch with her hair up, like cracking up at Logan Paul. I just couldn't believe what I was watching. Got it. Well, why don't you rewatch it through the lens of being a hater and you'll see a lot. there's a lot to say. Well I did watch the last two episodes through that lens and I understood what you were saying. So like you influenced me and then I influenced you right back. Yeah it's true. It's such a good show I highly recommend. Thank you Jackie like so good. You're so welcome. Did Ben like it? Loved. Oh cracking up like cracking up at um like Jake is funny too right when they're on the date he's like this feels like love on the spectrum.

16:17and then she was like do you think we'll be together forever he was like yeah and i'll find you in the next lifetime she's like but what if i'm an ugly boy and he's like then i'll be gay like he's fucking funny i'm sorry like there's a reason like people are into them and i get it like i totally get it totally highly recommend okay we're using our platform today raise your voice cogers oh you want me to raise my voice

16:56that's literally the cringiest scene in cinematic i actually re-watched it a few weeks ago via instagram reels shout out to whoever uh and it was worth it out of obscurity it's awful it's awful and everybody's like she's really good cringelicious definition definition and it's literally like Loki Aiden is her teacher Aiden Shaw and he's like wow get me out of here seriously I identify so much with like the villain in that film the girl with the curly blonde hair like no hillary duff scram what are you doing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like not okay not not okay oh my god we have stories today and they are they're good it was a big weekend lots going on this weekend like a lot of the first Monday in May

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18:07okay our wi-fi cut out like seriously that was funny it's the first monday in may it's the first monday in may and that's not even what i was talking about for this weekend but it is the first monday may be like a lot of activations like kentucky f1 f1 uh kentucky the what Kentucky Derby and F1 no and a lot of people like flock to New York too so a lot of celebrities were in New York and I'm like seriously stalking Alex Earl I don't think she's in New York even though I could see her like wanting to surprise us like not sharing any of it and putting it on her vlog but do we think Alex Earl there's like a couple of big questions when it comes to the Met Gala right now Taylor and Travis for me Taylor and Travis Tylee and Timothy what's Kylie and Timothy for me is Alex Earl going to the Met Gala okay so I would say these are the odds highest odds kylie and timothy second highest odds alex earl alex earl third highest travis and tailored taylor's also like not in a public facing moment yeah you should be kind of coming out of party yeah maybe i'm drop some like rep easter eggs everyone's hungry for some eggs yeah travis is in new york i know he was filming a commercial in new york but everyone's saying like that means nothing stop being stupid it does mean nothing you should stop being stupid oh my god wait speaking of being stupid i watched american idol last night which i enjoyed immensely like being a boomer means the world to me and it's such a good show i'm sorry like the quality of talent is like trash but they brought in miranda lambert she was like the guest mentor and she really like she gave her all i appreciated that you know she wasn't just giving like you should try this like she was crying she was loving was she like no she went like this yeah yeah yeah yeah so miranda So then when it was over, like they just cut to whatever ABC was playing next and they televised the Time 100 gala, which I thought was so strange.

19:55We talked about it last week. It's like this big list and they had a gala for all the recipients. And I guess like it was a ceremony, which I would have assumed I thought it was more of a party, but they filmed the entire thing for TV. So it was like Snoop Dogg was the host. There were performances. They cut to Demi Moore. I literally turned it off after five minutes. It was like so bad. like I appreciate them like giving us a window into that fabulous evening but I don't know it felt like it's not cool anymore it's on ABC wasn't it a week ago yeah so it wasn't live no no that's weird it was so strange like just give us the Goldbergs shut it just give us the Goldbergs correct just or that or Desperate Housewives reruns like we're good yeah even though the show was ruined thanks thanks yeah i know thanks marsh thanks marsh marsh marsh marsh marsh literally now are you ready for the fast five stories that you do need to know and the fast five stories that you need to know jackie are brought to you by booking.com booking.yeah yeah yeah yeah so listing your vacation rental on booking.com opens the door to more guests.

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26:01Of course, the grandma from Hannah Montana. Diana Lane. She's in it. Of course. Like, it's... Oh, and you know what? You know what I think I'm just realizing? Hold on. Who plays the dad in Secretariat movie? Hold on. Some guy. Some guy, right? Mm-hmm. Who's the actor? I'm pretty sure. Let me just... yes so the husband in secretariat is from nip tuck i was just thinking because i was watching nip tuck the other day no and i've it was such a popular show and it's like ryan murphy's like big first show and those two main guys like so hot like they never did anything ever again you know you never saw the actors i don't even know their names and then i'm thinking he looks yes he's one of the doctors from nip tuck and then he is the no good husband unsupportive husband only there for the wind's husband.

26:59The no good piece of shit Drake Cup for Bissinapunum husband. And what's funny is like he's not even the villain of the movie but he is. It's not about him. But if you like are a rational woman watching the film you can't help but get bogged down by this actual imbecile. Yeah. Like trying to tell Diane what to do. Now there were multiple events going on this weekend. Like two big main ones. A lot of celebs, influencers, cars racing versus horse racing. Went to Miami. to watch the cars race and others went to Kentucky Derby to watch the horses race which did you think was more fun looking f1 really yeah I thought like everyone who was at f1 was like a list elk caliber like how do you even get there does a brand have to bring you it's like it seems like just the most exclusive ticket and then Kentucky Derby like I was seeing some strays and then also like people start to look like it's a very fine line between like looking appropriate and looking like a clown costume yeah agreed agreed agreed I thought it was interesting that Alex Earl opted for the Kentucky Derby like she's the queen of Miami that's true but I was glad she was there to take me along at the Kentucky Derby so I will say I thought like the actual event itself like the Kentucky Derby looked a little bit more fun like you sit and you drink and you bet whereas like I didn't actually see a lot of people at the F1 I just saw everybody at Carbone Beach you know Carbone Beach looked really sick well there were a lot of events in the weekend in miami but i just feel like in terms of like the actual race and all the people who i saw who went to f1 like of the people that i follow like wearing the cutest outfits they've ever worn i did everybody showed up yeah everyone showed up so i think that one but conducted her be so cute maybe it was like a little bit cooler at like weather wise you get to wear a hat shady do you think do you think that the horse that won sovereignty like kind of mimicking like a one name wonder starting with an s secretariat like it's kind of because i find the naming of the horses to be the most interesting like if i had a horse obviously his name would be turdy um or like oh i like that like a play on something um but to just give it like a madonna like a one name starting with an s it's like well obviously you're gonna win yeah well he had seven to one odds and i'd like to see the other horse names because sometimes people rename their horses like really stupid names like lots of luck no agreed like you want to lose yeah one name wonder i agree like i don't know if you if you had tommy okay if you had a horse that you were putting forth in a big race what would you name it the options are sort of limitless i would have to get to know my horse but i just would i think i would feel inspired by um bruno and so i think I would name him Brysand.

29:48Okay, what about Follet? Too feminine. Sorry. What if it was a girl horse? Are any of the horses girls? I think biology still applies to horses. To horses? Does it? Like, are all the horses boys? I'm pretty sure. Like, don't quote me on that, but if I was a betting woman, that's what I'd bet. Even if you think their schlong would get in the way, aerodynamically. No, but they're, like, just taller and stronger and faster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I understand how biology works like that was a crazy convo in american paul why can't i say the name of the show paul american when he's doing an interview and they're like asking him about like trans women in sports sports and he like didn't want to answer and his dad was like i'll answer like creates a distraction to like so that he doesn't have to answer but then he said no i want to answer that is a big topic in sports and if jake paul is not going to answer that question than who is shake paul no sure like they thrive on that sort of controversy and he had really like he even talked about it later in the car it was like he wanted to talk more about it you know he had feelings on it yeah yeah yeah um so also to say congratulations to sovereignty about trans women in sports in women's sports i honestly if you really want to know i think i value my career and i'm not getting involved that's what i think that's what i that's what I thought that you would think.

31:11Yeah. No, I love pop culture and The Toast is an amazing show and you guys should tune in every day. And anyone can tune in. That's what's so great. We're non gender exclusive, you know, unlike sports. We don't have boundaries. You can join. Anyone can be a Swirly. Swirly is a non-binary term. That's true, but it does come derived from... It leans... It does derive from girly Swirly. It definitely has feminine origins. however when applied to modern times anyone can be a swirly and i really mean that that's very good claudia thanks i think you've successfully walked the line i media trained my way right out of that question well congratulations to sovereignty and anyone who won money and to everyone who had a fun weekend there it looked great like it looked fun you know yeah it always love to see love to see young people being hot and fun honestly yeah no that's that is what it was are you ready for our next story some really somber news oh my it seems as though the pelts beckham feud is raging once again david beckham yeah david had a birthday party yeah and who wasn't there nicola and brooklyn and reports are swirling david refused to celebrate his birthday with his son brooklyn and nicola amid family feud claudia i i know no by the way i'm saying the feud could be back on but i do not believe based on what i know about david beckham that he would not allow them to come.

32:38So David Beckham reportedly refused to privately celebrate his birthday with Brooklyn and Nicola. The couple allegedly flew to London last week, David and Victoria, to honor David's birthday. No, or maybe Nicola. Sorry, that's confusing. I don't know who flew to London. Sources told TMZ that when Brooklyn and Nicola asked to meet up before his big birthday party, they were rebuffed. The duo were reportedly told their only option to celebrate David was at his soiree on Saturday at the Core Restaurant in Notting Hill, which was like star-studded Tom Cruise was there Anna de Armas yeah I saw um I saw the Anna de Armas photos of her hiding and him like you know she's in so hard like a man who makes you hide and he smiles for the paparazzi like ick okay um and I saw this thing I forgot where I saw it it was like how is Tom Cruise dating Anna de Armas like he doesn't entertain the idea of dating any woman who's not a part of Scientology and it's like well if they are dating and they are she's probably already like a couple of steps in yeah you know taking tours of the facilities learning more about and actually the more i thought about it it made a lot of sense because what i remember hearing about scientology as it pertained to john travolta in a documentary that i saw was that when he decided to join like for no reason other than like probably curiosity it was around the exact same time that his career really started to take off and we weren't really alive or like socially conscious at the time but like there was a time where he was like jacob lordy right like Bigger.

34:02Every movie. Yeah, right. Bigger. Because there weren't a million Jacob Elordes. There was like one guy at the time. And he was that, and he attributes almost all of his current, modern, and past success to being, it's like the program worked. And so I think for a lot of people, they get involved for that reason. And actually, we were just talking about it. Like, Anna de Armas is kind of like. Stalled. Yeah. And so I could see that being an intriguing, or at least just a reason for her to take the tour yeah um and if something does start to pop off in her career she will think it's because of scientology and maybe it is that's scary maybe it's not because of like you know the the karmic energy but because maybe there's scientologists in high places and if you become a scientologist right like you can get a really great gig maybe right right they like lift up their own yeah perhaps so i thought the timing of like her star rising actually kind of makes sense or start lowering actually yeah that's what i said about her glomming on to tom to begin with right and and maybe she's gonna become a believer because we're all talking about her now no not not in a meaningful way but but not yet but like it could work the plan could work it's like at least she has a plan i can't believe tom cruise was at that birthday party like why best friends so even in the beckham documentary who david and tom even in the beckham documentary when they moved to la they started hanging out with tom and katie you're right and then they became like hollywood staples right and i think that he's really good friends with tom cruise and so honestly that is a check in tom's column because david seems like a stand-up guy no i don't think it's a check in tom's column i think it's like one of if not the only x in david's column oh poor judge unless you know sometimes like people and you know what i feel this happens a lot with famous people like we all think things about famous people but like you have an experience with them and what david beckham's like this guy was so nice to me when i moved to l.a i didn't know anyone i'm gonna hate him because the world tells me to like maybe he's just like a uh deeply like moral guy being like well i don't care what the world says about you you were nice to me no and like you are nice to me and we have a good friendship what i should like throw away my friend because of what all these people i don't know say about him right i would implore david to do a little bit of research but listen who am i the judge let's get back to the issue at hand yes no i don't want to talk about tom cruise say because we talked about him last week and i feel set for the month it's enough like once a month i'm fine but the duo reportedly told they could only come to the big birthday party they couldn't celebrate privately and they chose not to go and instead send him birthday wishes so i think the fact that they were not at this huge party when they've been going to everything for one another victoria and david went to nicola's lola premiere for the movie that she wrote like they're going to ever yeah back like what once things have been good since wedding date like they have been so supportive of each other even when there's a family gathering in Brooklyn and Nicola are not there Victoria writes in the caption missing Brooklyn and Nicola like they have been so shrunk so that they were and I don't I can't think of a reason why they wouldn't go right like they go to London a lot it's a big thing there's no way around the fact that they did not go and that is because of contention that is bad this is 50th birthday party like they definitely went to every like they yeah blew it out like it's once in a lifetime and they were not there so things have gone south again which like makes me so upset because i thought we were safe i thought we were like over it and i thought that like so much of the perceived wedding drama beef was like blown up in the public sphere and like maybe there was a little bit of truth to it but it wasn't that big of a deal and they got over it yada yada no and like weddings can be like dramatic and stressful you see the worst in people and you could have a a beef but then you have if you have overcome it then like it's not like there's another wedding it's not going to happen again like everything is stable i just don't know like if i married into the beckham family like you would not stop me from getting on that plane like they just seem i'm sure every family has their intricacies and stuff but like and i'm nicola like i obviously want to be famous right i've been like actively pursuing a life in hollywood for many many years like why wouldn't i go to this big event it's good for my career i don't know and even like they took family photos before the party and all the other kids were there and like the two sons romeo and cruise were with their girlfriends the girlfriends are in the picture they're very much a family it's not like you have to like no ring no brings not good the girlfriends are in the pictures and sometimes like you know they break up and then there's a new girlfriend and they're they are so welcoming she posts a picture with these random girlfriends that's very kardashian of them yeah it's but you would think it's like we're until you're married like you're not well i'm not you can't be in the pictures we'll have to crop you out this girl's not even on the end damn i mean this is not what I wanted to hear honestly I hadn't even thought much about these four I thought like it was settled and we're good maybe it's not the best relationship with in-laws ever but it's good and it's fine and it works and I liked seeing little glimpses of them together and like the fact that we don't get the four of them like ever just out and about like how sick would that be just like paparazzi pictures of them like we used to it would we she went to Nicola and Brooklyn went to the show Victoria's show in Paris like they were so supportive of one another we are the ones the public we're the ones missing out it's true but also brooklyn's missing out of course and i mean i don't know if we would know because they feel like a much more private family but is there any beef between the pelts's and brooklyn and nicola i don't think so not that i think we would know but i do feel like nicola's with her family a lot me too like and i think Nicola and Brooklyn are always together.

39:43So it's not like Nicola's with her family without Brooklyn. And it's clear that Brooklyn has chosen his wife over his family, which in a really toxic in-law case, like that's what you hope for, right? I don't know. I'm not happy about it. We also have a Beckham documentary. Like you can't call them toxic. I'm not happy about it. Agreed. Like they're America's sweethearts and they're not even from here. Agreed. I'm not happy about it. I'm not happy about any of this. I'm really unhappy about it because I really like, I love both couples. Rising ties, race all shy. If you had to choose a side here, knowing nothing about what actually is going on, just purely based on vibes, I'm going with the Beckhams.

40:22David and Victoria, yeah. Over the Pelts Beckhams. But just know, like, it was your close second. It's kind of the definition of a D 'Andra's choice. Yeah. So, let's see what happens next. But to miss the 50th birthday, that's not like something, oh, we'll make up tomorrow. Because if you were going to make up tomorrow, you would have just gone to the party and been like we'll deal with it later right like something we can't work through we're family no it's catastrophic it's category five yeah and if any of these two younger brothers get married anytime soon that will be like another big thing like will they go they better they better well tbd will keep you posted are you ready for our next story three yeah because today's a big day diddy's sex trafficking trial begins today in new york city jury selection not the media burying this i haven't seen it anywhere i had no idea selection begins this morning um in one of the toughest jurisdictions in the nation i take it back i take it back jury selection is not like the biggest news coming out however i put on my tinfoil hat like a little too quickly out uh get called up to jury duty today there's a good chance that you could be serving on this case.

41:33Okay, I haven't gotten jury duty because I actually completed jury duty, even though I feel like it was almost six years ago. Like my time is coming. But let's say for argument's sake, like I got chosen. Obviously this is something I would not try to get out of. You would not get chosen because - You think I would because of my job? There is a record of you talking about this. Having a strong opinion. Having strong opinions at length. But I also feel like there's a record of us, well, you, because you're the one, um you know changing our opinions about stuff no and we are not unreasonable people like i think that if you were to watch our entire career like in a movie you would some one of the feelings you would be left with is those are rational girls reason right reason free from logic and the law is reason free from passion oh that's what i'm thinking are passionate yeah therefore maybe i definitely wouldn't get chosen not be you would one thousand percent not occasionally they would say what do you do for work i do a pop culture podcast goodbye yeah and then they don't like people you know who are obviously media darlings like myself oh yeah darling because they know they know i'd be speaking to the media after every day in court yeah so this is and by the media i mean the toast this is gonna be tough but you wouldn't be allowed to so your work would suffer it would just be awful so true um this is gonna be a tough jury selection to find people who are not biased it's one of the most highly publicized cases in the country everybody knows diddy everybody probably has an opinion so this will take some time where do you even begin i guess you get like older women like i could only think of like a grandma like who wouldn't care about this well it's not even just about who doesn't care i think they could also choose someone who might know did he might have an opinion but it's proven that they could be unbiased right like in a traditional jury setting if you've even heard of like because it's not usually famous people let's say it's like it's like usually like a boring case of like a landlord if you've even heard of this landlord any remote connection you're automatically disqualified they probably can't do that here because there are very few people on the planet let alone in new york like who haven't heard of diddy so they have to be a little bit more discerning about like just people's vibes i actually think aside from the fact that i do this podcast like me as an individual and like the way i operate i would be a very good jury member for this trial or any trial but like I could completely become unbiased like tabula rasa I'm gonna sit there I'm not gonna use anything that I've learned before this and I could be I could be swayed like look at me and Justin and Blake like yes I'm open-minded to being wrong you know that like jury members of really high profile cases like they're constantly getting reached out to like almost there's a lot of jury tampering bribery do you think you would be able to withstand all of that one thousand percent no one could like i could bribery depends what they're offering right but like i can't even think of a bribe that i would take and if it's about money then i would just wait till it's over and sell my story write a book i think i could wait like i actually think i'm very desirable for a jury unfortunately i'm very busy and i'm self-employed and so i can't take that on sad state for civics but maybe next time getting selected on a jury for like a really really high profile case is a a perverted version of like a lottery ticket a lot of people do like retire afterwards a blessing and a curse no they said every single jury member after the oj simpson trial wrote a book yeah but i think they're probably like had people you know outside their house and yeah yeah it's a blessing and a curse well you can remain just like a lottery a winning lottery ticket ever heard but I just want to say just like just like you think you would be a good jury member I know I would be a good lottery winner so give it to me I wouldn't squander it I would be I mean you guys know how cheap watch your mouth you know how viscally responsible I am I went to the outlets again yesterday the outlets she would take her winnings one percent of them like I would buy a mansion but like a mansion that was in foreclosure you know I'd get it at auction.