Pee Pee Before Sleepy: Thursday, July 9th, 2026

4:46Jackie Oshry:And then the lore of Jonah Hill only made me love the name even more. Because Ruthie, she was a great girl.

4:50Claudia Oshry:She was a great girl. So justice for Ruthie. But the comments there were so funny. People were saying, I miss this time of toast. Can we get a Patreon deep dive? Oh, sure. I thought they made more Facebook groups. Have we not done that? Have we not beat that horse dead? Have we not done toast Facebook toxic groups at a glance? I don't know if we've ever done a dedicated episode, but it somehow comes up in every deep dive. Like maybe we should do the documentary about it.

5:13Jackie Oshry:That would actually be like a funny Patreon. What's so funny that you're going to love is like I actually recently met a documentary filmmaker. And he was like, do you ever like want to do like a documentary?

5:22Claudia Oshry:I want to do a documentary about it like just for Patreon. Like as an episode on Patreon.

5:26Jackie Oshry:Of course. Patreon.com slash your toast.

5:27Claudia Oshry:I don't actually like want to get involved. And then of course like people are coming out from like their own toxic Facebook groups being like ha ha. Of course. We weren't the only ones.

5:36Jackie Oshry:Have you guys heard of this kid at Confidential? Hers was really bad.

5:38Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

5:38Jackie Oshry:Hers had to be shut down. So did ours. Alls did Yeah right Alls did There are still groups Because people back home I'm not in it But people always talk about The Upper East Side Mom's Facebook group Did it start as a toast group? No no no no But it is like A quintessential Toxic mom Facebook group Like I The things I hear from my friends Who are in it Like are so crazy They're always sending me screenshots So some of those groups Still do exist But it was very much Like a 2020 era type thing Yeah no

6:02Claudia Oshry:But it was different When it was like For your favorite podcaster show Or whatever it is But it was a lot of podcasts Like if you had a podcast You just had a group You made a Facebook group to associate with. That's just what you did.

6:12Jackie Oshry:It's just what you did. Yeah, it was like kind of like, you know, you make an Instagram for your podcast. You make a Facebook group for your podcast. Like that's what it was. Yeah. It was such a crazy time.

6:21Claudia Oshry:It was. So that was a fun trip down memory lane. And yeah.

6:29Jackie Oshry:What else?

6:29Claudia Oshry:Oh, and then I had my own day yesterday. Like I said that I would. Yeah, we promised everyone that we would. And then I didn't tell you about it. So do you want to hear about it? That we would spend the day apart. Yeah, because I came home and did nothing. So I went to Round Swamp and got myself lunch because I didn't have a meal the day before. So Bethany. And I had a delicious ahi tuna salad.

6:46Jackie Oshry:Wow.

6:46Claudia Oshry:And then I picked up some nice things for the house. Of course, some sweet treats. We had tacos for dinner. So I got like some guac, some chips. I didn't go crazy because I could only carry so much. But I did do what I said I was going to do and I went to Round Swamp.

6:57Jackie Oshry:You're a woman of your word. I am.

6:59Claudia Oshry:A woman of integrity. Then I went shopping, like I said I was going to do. I got this new cup. It's Ralph Lauren coffee cup. I love shopping for cups. I love this cup. So can I say. I was so excited to wake up this morning.

7:11Jackie Oshry:And use my new cup. No I get it. Cup culture. I feel like I used to. It used to pass me by. I used to see people like showing off their cabinets of cups. I'm like seriously you guys are crazy how many cups do you need. And some people do take it too far. Like beating each other up to get like the Starbucks collabs. But like I fully get now like the cup obsession. I just want myself a new Stanley. And I just want to say not to like put Stanley on blast. But if you're paying full price for a Stanley. You didn't. No I didn't.

7:34Claudia Oshry:Yeah. No I would never. You got it at HomeGoods.

7:36Jackie Oshry:That's what I'm saying. Do you know how many they have at HomeGoods? I guess they're like the overstock colors or whatever. This is a cute purple cup.

7:42Claudia Oshry:Oh, you were saying, I thought you were saying, if you're paying full price for a Stanley, like it better not leak.

7:45Jackie Oshry:No, no, no. If you're paying full price for a Stanley, like you're dumb. Like do not ever pay, unless it's like a brand new collab with Love Shack Fancy, like that I understand. I once paid so much money for a Stanley. I know, I always think about the fact that you told me one time you bought a$60 Stanley. I think it was like$80. Yeah, I'm sorry. Do you know how many they have at TJ Maxx HomeGoods and Marshalls? Like hundreds of brand new, and it's not like they're duty brown. And they're not Stanley. They're Stanley. They're Stanley brand. I saw pink. I saw blue. I saw green. They have something for everyone.

8:08Jackie Oshry:Boys, girls. What are you buying a Stanley full price for? Every time I go to TJ Maxx, Marshalls, and HomeGoods, I'm like so surprised that they have Stanley's. I don't know why I'm surprised, but they have like racks and racks of them. Yeah. Guys, cardboard tip of the day. Cardboard tip of the day. Dude, not be buying Stanley's.

8:23Claudia Oshry:Or you could buy this one. How much did you buy your Ralph Lauren cup? Honestly, I don't even know. I don't even know. and I need to have a referendum on Apple Pay. Because yesterday I hit the shops. I was just, I had a little bit of like time in between my two activities. So I was just had time to kill. And like, I will buy anything. People always say like. With Apple Pay, like it's out of control.

8:45Jackie Oshry:Apple Pay is, people always compare different things. Like it's monopoly money. Apple Pay is monopoly money.

8:50Claudia Oshry:I think the act of having to get my credit card out of my bag would make me stop and think about what, is it worth doing that?

8:57Jackie Oshry:Yeah, and I would love to actually remove Apple Pay from my phone in an attempt to save money. But it's a life-saving device. Of course. If I'm ever out. Part of being a New Yorker is growing up getting into a cab and realizing you don't have your wallet. It was such a scary thing. You're like, what do you do? No, not with Apple Pay. That's a thing in the past.

9:11Claudia Oshry:So for my safety, I have to have it. I actually got my manicure and I intended to pay with my card and then tip and cash. And I didn't have my wallet. I didn't have it. That never happens to me. I was like, you take Apple Pay? Thank God. but like it's really a dangerous device in the hands of the wrong person me how many cards do you have on your apple pay just one got about four just one and she goes hard in the paint yeah i saw i used it yesterday you saw me use it yeah i used it oh you used mine like i guess my receipts from apple pay are on my phone like yeah oh excuse me i didn't buy that today no but then

9:44Jackie Oshry:you get to see like the the vendors um real real company holding holding company names yeah like i

9:49Claudia Oshry:was buying sunglasses sunscreen i went to the hardware store of course i could find something there. What did you need at the hardware store? I didn't find what I needed, but I got another collapsible laundry basket. Always good to have. Always good to have in the house because I had been previously sharing a hamper with Max and I thought we could each have our own.

10:06Jackie Oshry:Oh, that's kind of indulgent. I share a hamper with Ruby and Ben.

10:10Claudia Oshry:I share a hamper with Zach. But I just thought like Paxton needed his own little one. I might have gotten a little something for my sister. Me? Oh, why? Is there a special day coming up that I haven't brought up? I might have gotten you a little bit of something well i would hope so it's a special day i don't even remember what that store was so yeah i think i hit seven stores go you charge it shopping is her cardio it really was oh you like need that t-shirt oh and also the game is changed because i have my tesla here which can parallel park i personally i personally can't parallel park and like so ordinarily i actually wouldn't have gone to ralph loran because it's only parallel parking It is.

10:49Claudia Oshry:Well, there's parking in back. It's like a long walk. It's just too much. I didn't want to go that badly. But there was a spot right out front. Tessie parked for me. Beautiful. Like, I love living in this day and age.

11:01Jackie Oshry:Like we said yesterday.

11:02Claudia Oshry:I really felt like a modern woman.

11:04Jackie Oshry:You are a modern woman.

11:06Claudia Oshry:Yeah. No, but I really was taking advantage of all of the modern conveniences yesterday. I got a pair of shorts from Raffler and I went down a size. Yes. Very exciting. I'm like very aware of my size right now, which I never. oh that's upsetting he like asked because i i don't know i got like these pants and i was like oh i like how these fit like this is my this is my size and then i got like another pair of pants because these are like a little bit loose so i was like maybe i could get the next size down and

11:31Jackie Oshry:yeah they fit i obviously don't love wearing shorts but given the fact that we are like hard-working women who podcast with our legs out full body podcast i can't really wear short i wouldn't like i'm just not in a position i think at my most fit i like twice wore shorts on the podcast it's just crazy to wear shorts on the podcast so it really limits what i can wear over the summer and try being an influencer for a day try it yeah like i couldn't sit like this in shorts correct i literally wouldn't dream of it so yeah it's not a short but like for the other days on the other half of the day so we have stories that are the stories nothing in a positive or

12:07Claudia Oshry:negative way neither they're the stories like some days are obviously a cup runneth over other days this drought we have kylie for duncan oh you know what we don't i almost did it yesterday

12:16Jackie Oshry:we'll just briefly talk about it before we dive in no no i'll add it i like we're here now like

12:21Claudia Oshry:it's on the tip of my tongue yeah i just want to say like if i don't have anything nice to say i

12:27Jackie Oshry:don't want to say anything at all i hated it so much for so many reasons one like i'm so over going back into the archives and like king kylie era it's like you've done so much you're iconic now you're more iconic now so like it's giving has been which she's not too like she's very much in her brand deal era. Like, I feel as though, you know, remember there was a rumor that the Kardashians were broke like a couple of years ago? It is giving broke, like I just want to say. Oh, I don't think she's broke. The meta thing I didn't scoff at because when you're a billionaire, you can still do brand deals, but they have to be like a worth of time.

12:53Claudia Oshry:I think she, I don't know, in the last year or so, like has become so popular, so respected. So she's always been like very cool, but you know, in reality circles, whatever, and like, I don't know, now it's with Timothy and just everything that she's doing. And she is just seriously the most influential person and on the planet, the coolest person on the planet. And I think like she is now getting paid so much money for these things. You know, back in the day, they used to do like the gummies and like Sugar Bear hair. And still that was probably like a million dollars a post and she was like making money that way.

13:21Claudia Oshry:But I think the money is so good for brand deals for her right now. Because every brand, any brand on the planet would be so lucky to have her as their spokesperson.

13:30Jackie Oshry:It's true. The creative for this campaign, like I just couldn't have hated more. I agree. And also like I actually think, first of all, she's so pretty. She can't look bad. But I think actually like the glam here, like she looked, that was not good glam. No, it wasn't. The pink hair washed her out.

13:44Claudia Oshry:And the outfit wasn't good. And just the overall. When she goes back and does a King Kylie, she always looks pretty. So she like still looks cool. But this was like bad. The overall aesthetic was like not in. It was like, it was a, I feel like at the time King Kylie was awesome. But if you like we did it now, it would be like, oh, actually.

13:58Jackie Oshry:It was the trend of the time. Now it gives Chugi.

14:01Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah.

14:02Jackie Oshry:I don't know. I didn't like it.

14:03Claudia Oshry:I didn't like it either. But you know what? I'm sure the paycheck was so big. Because like, what did we say? She was like, I'll wear whatever wig you want me to. For Meta, we thought, what, she got like 100 million? I think for Meta, she got$100 million. I think for Duncan, she got$20 million. Okay,$15 million. So I don't think she's working. I just think the money's really good right now. And not every Kardashian can say that. Not every celebrity can say that. I feel like Mariska, she's going through.

14:23Jackie Oshry:Well, you know, your currency comes and goes. Like, you're hot and you're not. So you do have to cash in when you're hot. I just thought this one missed the mark.

14:31Claudia Oshry:In terms of the creative, which I don't think she had a hand in.

14:35Jackie Oshry:No, but she has so much personality. People like don't really know that about her. And that's why I think people liked her so much on Therapist. Like when she's just herself. Which we never really see hashtag who is the real Kylie. And I don't know. It would have been a good opportunity just to show off more of her personality.

14:48Claudia Oshry:That's just like old thing again. No. And like her current look. Which is like that's the reason why she's so popular right now.

14:53Jackie Oshry:Her look is like she sets the trends.

14:55Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Like just like cool girl having a Dunkin'. Cool girls drink Dunkin'. Yeah. There you go. There you have it. There you go. Yeah. You should have called me. And you didn't.

15:04Jackie Oshry:And that's something you'll have to live with.

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21:03Claudia Oshry:Thanks, Turt Kitchen. You're welcome. Our first story. Margaret, Qualley, and Jack Antonoff separate after three years as sources say their marriage has been rocky. So after the show yesterday, TMZ reported that they are splitting. Now a source is adding that the pair's relationship has been rocky. A second insider adds that the two of them are figuring things out. He is currently in the midst of his tour, while she is in pre-production for a horror movie.

21:35Jackie Oshry:In case you aren't watching, I'm smiling. I love this. Even though he then left the house yesterday still wearing his wedding ring, like very manipulative energy. I love this. Can't stress enough how much I love. It does make me feel that the relationship between Margaret Quailey and Taylor is over.

21:52Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

21:53Jackie Oshry:I don't know if they were ever that tight.

21:54Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

21:56Jackie Oshry:Which is fine. Which is fine. I liked it, but like it's fine. It's completely fine. And I just really want what's best for Margaret. Like I'm ready for, I think like I said yesterday, Margaret is very much on track to becoming this generation's like big actress. and a part of that like is dating and getting married to other celebrities and it's like Jack Antonoff was very much a stepping stone thank you for your time and your uh dedication to this cause but your time is up and I'm looking forward to seeing who she dates next honestly it's not date

22:25Claudia Oshry:so it's mad I think it's crazy they got married I know and I can't they didn't have to get married they could have been together this whole time it's been three years do you remember their wedding

22:34Jackie Oshry:they got married in New Jersey and it became like a whole thing about because Taylor was there and like people found out and like they literally the public ruined their wedding so people think margaret qualey hates taylor because of that because there are theories that margaret and taylor didn't get along especially i saw a clip on twitter this morning two separate interviews where margaret qualey was asked about one time she was asked about lana del rey lana del rey has a song called margaret and it was like a gift that she gave to jack and so gma or something like ask margaret about it and she was just like gushing she was like i couldn't believe it it's like so sweet i love lana she makes the most amazing music with jack like the two of them are just magic like It was so complimentary.

23:07Jackie Oshry:And then, like, they asked her about Taylor. And at the time, I think people were just like, I think we probably talked about it on the toast. Yeah, I remember. People were like, Margaret hates Taylor. It's like, well, no, it's just fucking annoying when someone's trying to promote a movie and every question is about Taylor Swift.

23:17Claudia Oshry:Not even that. Anything that you say when asked about her is going to be, like, dissected. It's like Donna Kelsey. Exactly. Who wound up coming off rude. So when someone comes off rude about Taylor,

23:25Jackie Oshry:I almost always give them the benefit of the doubt.

23:26Claudia Oshry:They just sort of, like, don't want to feed the fire. Plus, it was about T. Loas, and Jack didn't work on T. Loas. So that was like, what are you supposed to say?

23:33Jackie Oshry:So when you just compare the clips side by side, it is giving like beef. Although I don't think so. Also, did you see that it appears so Lana wasn't at the wedding? Yes. And Lana was, you know, in her Instagram comments talking to people like very much confirming like I wasn't there. Yeah. There's weird between Lana and remember when there's so many weird things.

23:54Claudia Oshry:No, but they're like best friends. She brought her on stage for the acceptance speech, which was weird. Yeah. But like that speaks to a level of closeness. and I just want to say

24:01Jackie Oshry:doing a collab with Lana and not being able to hear Lana so she released another version that's like more Lana like that's weird at a certain point

24:07Claudia Oshry:like all of these friendships like it's confounding you know yes it was just a page 6 headline

24:14Jackie Oshry:that Taylor Swift has five goddaughters and none of them were there because Jamie King

24:17Claudia Oshry:to have so many close friendships and like so many on the rocks so many cut off completely like it's very strange I do think now that she's like married you know that's where you pour in to And I think it's not going to be the friendship roller coaster anymore. But Lana and Blake and Carly were her closest, closest friends in the world. Kelly. Kelly. Jamie King. She's got her daughter. Jamie King's daughter. But Jamie King.

24:44Jackie Oshry:She has her own issues. So I agree with you.

24:46Claudia Oshry:Now I've seen it five people and I haven't even racked my brain yet. And of course, think about the girl gang era. Hailee Steinfeld. Zendaya.

24:52Jackie Oshry:But I'm talking about best close friendships. Sisters. So while yes, I agree with you. If this was somebody I knew from high school, I would be like, well, you're the problem. I'm like, duh. I think that maintaining a friendship with someone who is like the most famous person in the world, whether you're the friend or you're Taylor, like I think it is going to be more ripe for like breakups and stuff. So yes, I agree that more often than not, like when somebody has so many friendships that like end, you start to wonder like, well, maybe are you the problem? But these are not typical situations.

25:23Claudia Oshry:But I'm not even talking about the casual friendships. You're talking about the deep sisterhood. They come and go. Yeah. Like, you don't get that many friends like that in your life of, like, best friends, sisters. So, like, Blake is one of those people. Okay, but the Blake case, like, that's a crazy circumstance. I can extend, okay, you can lose a couple of sisters along the way. Yeah. But, like, five plus, Carly was a sister. Yeah, but, like, the Scooter Braun thing. Like, these crazy things happened to.

25:47Jackie Oshry:Lana was a sister. Well, Lana was not a sister. But, like, she came up on stage. Up on stage for the acceptance. I thought that was weird that Taylor did that. I would only bring my sister. I thought it was weird that Taylor did that. And they didn't like it at the time.

25:57Claudia Oshry:Did Kelly date for the Golden Globes? Yeah, for sure. But it was a three-minute friendship. It was not. Some friendships burn fast and bright. And you used to argue that it was a longer friendship. I thought they became friends when Miles did that video. But you said they'd been friends for a long time. Did I say that? Yeah. I don't think that I did. That's how I remember it. You convinced me they were friends for a long time. And then they became like super close. But for a person who doesn't go to award shows or do red carpets, to go with Kelly. That's a sister. But like, I don't think that.

26:29Claudia Oshry:So why would I say it? But I believe you. I remember, like the way I thought about their friendship was like they met on the set of I Bet You.

26:36Jackie Oshry:Well, no, they had to get to the set. Miles got that gig because of Kelly. Because Kelly's a fan. Yeah, either she was a fan or they were friends. I don't remember exactly. You said it goes back.

26:46Claudia Oshry:Did I?

26:47Jackie Oshry:Let me ask chat really quickly. Hold on.

26:48Claudia Oshry:What did Claudia Oshry say?

26:49Jackie Oshry:No, no, no. I'm just going to ask like, when did Taylor Swift's friendship with Kelly Teller begin? even though like chat knows nothing.

26:58Claudia Oshry:Yeah. We know more than chat. Maybe they can reference. Chat is referencing the toast when he's.

27:02Jackie Oshry:We are a source. He's searching the web, AKA listening to episodes of the toast. 2018. They met around the reputation stadium tour. Kelly posted her first photo with Taylor backstage. So they, it shows that they were at least friendly. 2019. Taylor sent them a note and flowers for their wedding. 2021. That's when they became much closer. I bet you think about me. Yeah. 23, 24, regularly seen together backstage at the Arrow's tour. All right, so I'm not like totally wrong, but I guess like they knew each other in 2018.

27:32Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but everybody went backstage at Rep. Yeah. It wasn't like the Arrow's tour. There was a Rep room.

27:38Jackie Oshry:Yeah, she wasn't a sister, but yeah, no, it's another friendship. It doesn't make her look good. I completely agree. Then you look like Jamie King, and it's like, well, I would argue Jamie King's probably the problem in that one, you know?

27:46Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Because isn't that when your friends need you? Yeah, but like at a certain point, like if you're like.

27:54Jackie Oshry:you can't help you can't and you're like enabling just by continuing to be that person's friend no no i understand yeah no i hear you and a lot of people are saying that like it is a lot of friends

28:03Claudia Oshry:it's a lot of just like roller coasters of friendships yeah but then there are but she's

28:08Jackie Oshry:also like known for being like insanely loyal to both friends and like colleagues like you know of course abigail but like people she works with people in her band and then for all the ones of

28:17Claudia Oshry:sisters who have gone there are sisters who are still there hame selena gomez gg yeah Ashley

28:25Jackie Oshry:Ashley luckiest girl alive yeah yeah no you're like I hear you but I think that like it's hard to maintain friendships period but when you have like the craziest things going on in your life like the Scooter Braun masters recording like Kim and Kanye yeah that doesn't like make a breeding ground for like amazing friendships and like people in Hollywood are so fucking like fickle and finicky and it's like the second you become unpopular like everyone drops you like yeah shit like that's gonna happen but all of these things are post that Of course.

28:53Claudia Oshry:Every person that I've mentioned. Yeah. Made it through that point.

28:58Jackie Oshry:I just don't think it's like an automatic like red flag. I don't.

29:01Claudia Oshry:No. But it's curious. Lana now like. Yeah. I would love to know Lana. You know and she knows how to act. She's a big star. She's been around. Lana. So. Anyways. Next story.

29:20Jackie Oshry:Just want to say congratulations to Margaret Qualey. And I'm like looking forward to this next chapter for you. To all that's waiting for her. Yeah, right. FIFA final. FIFA fiddly IO.

29:31Claudia Oshry:I thought that's what you were going to say. FIFA final halftime show. The World Cup final halftime show has been announced. I know. And it's going to be a big musical production. A global performance. So we will be seeing Justin Bieber, Shakira, Madonna, BTS, as well as Afrobeat star Burn-a-Boy, then as Wayland conductor Gustava Dudamel, And the PS22 choir from the elementary school in New York. Wait, that's so cute. Featuring Coldplay. With the choir? Yes. Oh, chills. And Coldplay will curate the 11-minute halftime show. So I guess they're like. The producers of it.

30:06Jackie Oshry:That's cool. I didn't know that like this was a thing that I was waiting to like find out who to perform for the Super Bowl. So cool. I guess it has to represent like a global range of artists. For sure. Because it's a global affair representing America. We have Coldplay and Justin Bieber. That feels right. Well, Canada, Justin Bieber.

30:23Claudia Oshry:Oh, right.

30:23Jackie Oshry:My bad.

30:23Claudia Oshry:And is Chris Martin from here? I don't think he is. Oh, really? Is he British? He has an accent, right? Whoa, whoa. What a good song. I mean, Coldplay is so global.

30:34Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no, everyone they chose, like, really. One thing, if there's a global event, Shakira's going to be there. He's English. He's British. Okay, so maybe they are a British band. So look at us, global. So who's the American? Is there one? It's like we're literally hosting. Wait, that's so funny.

30:49Claudia Oshry:Oh, no, not just. Madonna. English

30:52Jackie Oshry:English You guys don't You guys are not fucking ready For what I have to say about Madonna I'm not gonna say it Because not only

30:57Claudia Oshry:Because I respect my elders It doesn't need to be global It also needs to be Ageless Like you gotta have someone For older people in there I didn't say anything

31:05Jackie Oshry:About Madonna's age You did

31:06Claudia Oshry:No but like

31:07Jackie Oshry:I just like I'm so I don't wanna talk about Madonna Cause like I don't wanna Offend our Our gay listeners But like I'm so over her

31:13Claudia Oshry:But I think in this context She's right for it Whatever This sounds great I'm actually not seeing an American Okay

31:20Jackie Oshry:Well, looks like we'll have to get the guy who sings, and I'm proud to be an American. Well, at least I know I'm free. Get him in there.

31:29Claudia Oshry:I wonder if people are in a tizzy about this. Yeah. I mean, we are like the hosts. It's a little crazy. Yeah. But it's like all these people live in America. I know. They cosplay as Americans. But I guess that's the Americans. Wait, they pay taxes? Yeah. Okay. But I think this is going to be a great show. BTS. I mean, we are a nation of immigrants, so that's a beautiful story. It is a beautiful story. BTS, I love. Of course, of course. And of course, Gustavo. I know you're excited about Burn a Boy. Oh, and the chorus is American. Oh, yeah, that's really cute. Yeah. I love a children's choir. Yeah.

32:04Claudia Oshry:I think this will be great. Now we're down to eight teams in the tournament. So I do feel like if you want to get involved, like now is a good time. I'm involved. You didn't have to watch all that.

32:12Jackie Oshry:I'm rooting for Norway. The blonde guy with the ponytail who carries the Birkins is my favorite player. I'm rooting for. What are the teams?

32:21Claudia Oshry:Argentina. Messi. Messi, which I am going to root for. That's a good, exciting story. Yeah. France, England.

32:27Jackie Oshry:You know, the thing about me is I'm done with France. You're done.

32:32Claudia Oshry:Yeah. What did they do now?

32:33Jackie Oshry:I mean, it's more like what they didn't do. To the Jews? To the Nazis. They sort of rolled over and took it. One thing about me, I don't fuck with the French. Yeah. England? I'm down. Obviously, I'm a monarchist. I think their food is disgusting. but overall I'm not upset with them. Spain? Love. So Cheetah Girls, Cheetah Sisters. Barcelona. But here's who you're rooting for. Who? Morocco. Oh, actually, yeah, I am. Yeah. I am rooting for Morocco. Because I'm just a very prideful person. I have a lot of national pride.

33:08Claudia Oshry:Yeah, from the Moroccan Jews, but were they not expelled?

33:11Jackie Oshry:No, Moroccan Jews still live there.

33:13Claudia Oshry:They do? Yeah. Okay, good, good. Belgium?

33:16Jackie Oshry:Not the vibe. Sorry, like, you know, I can sense these things, like, when it's their time. And I just feel like Belgium's actually going to be the next team to lose. Just a feeling.

33:24Claudia Oshry:Norway and Switzerland.

33:26Jackie Oshry:Let me tell you that, like, Norway. Norway. I love that guy.

33:30Claudia Oshry:So who do you think will take it all?

33:34Jackie Oshry:Okay, here's my prediction. Norway v. Morocco. No, that's, like, me making the whole thing about myself. Hold on. Norway versus Argentina. That's what it's going to be.

33:45Claudia Oshry:I think it's going to be Argentina versus Spain. I would love that. I just feel like that for no reason.

33:52Jackie Oshry:I just wish I'd gotten more into it. It's really not compelling me like at all. You know, I'm like, I'm such a desperate loser.

33:58Claudia Oshry:I'm happy for everyone because everyone seems so like into it. People are going to the games and I like watching everybody else having a good time. Being excited. You know? Yeah. I just like, I wanted that for myself. It didn't happen. That's okay. Maybe in the next four years.

34:12Jackie Oshry:Is it every four years?

34:13Claudia Oshry:I think it's every year. I don't think it's every year. That's a lot. I think it might be every four years. When was the last one?

34:22Jackie Oshry:How frequently is the World Cup? The last one was in Qatar, remember? Yeah, and that was a while ago. That was years ago. Was it? I want to say two years ago. Oh, every four years. They can't do all this. Except 1942 and 1946 were both canceled because of World War II. Fun fact. Classic. 2026. Oh, guess where it is next year. it's never so interesting in 2018 in 2018 it was just russia in 2022 it was just qatar 2026 u.s canada and mexico north america yeah but why is it like countries and then we have a continent and then 2030 morocco portugal and spain as the hosts also matches taking place in uruguay argentina and paraguay like what they have to i guess they had to fly for this one too i mean i think it's a lot for like one country to take on no but i also think it's not for the

35:10Claudia Oshry:players like oh we're in paraguay today yeah like having to play a match and then like fly to uruguay it's not good for circulation no no they should keep it i guess more people get to go it's exciting

35:23Jackie Oshry:soccer's so big like yeah it's crazy how much like soccer means to people when it actually means something to us it means something to us we play travel soccer as little girls we like love

35:31Claudia Oshry:soccer little girl we actually love soccer as much as you could like one thing about me i had my

35:36Jackie Oshry:shin guards on and like my high socks and i was like i was there you probably didn't have your shin guards on no of course i had my shin guards on one thing that's what they teach you at soccer when i went like safety first yeah that's what they teach you are you ready for our next story

35:50Claudia Oshry:yeah cheetah girls 4 is set at disney with raven simone and original cast members returning uh not all so the cheetah girls next gen has officially been greenlit with original stars raven simone Adrian Balli alone returning as Galleria and Chanel respectively. And Sabrina. And with a lot of respect put on their name. In addition, Sabrina Bryan.

36:11Jackie Oshry:Why doesn't she get like top billing with the other two?

36:13Claudia Oshry:Because she's not as famous. But they were all cheetah girls. But like they wanted to know Raven and Adrian, who you know, are coming.

36:20Jackie Oshry:The headline is that the fourth one is not coming. Keeley.

36:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Like Sabrina will make a special appearance as Dorinda. It's insane.

36:31Jackie Oshry:It's insane that her name is Dorinda.

36:34Claudia Oshry:What are you doing here without Dorinda? It's insane that her name was Dorinda too. Like that scene. You know the one. No, you're more of a cheetah girl than I am. You don't mention the cheetah girls? No, no, I do. But like. Like I've seen it recently. Like the cheetah girls just imprinted on you more.

36:52Jackie Oshry:I mean, it was four girls who were like sisters who like sang. That was us growing up. I know, but like.

36:57Claudia Oshry:We're cheetah girls, cheetah sisters. It's just, you know, not everything can like lead you and shape you. And I loved Cheetah Girls, just like I loved other stuff growing up, like Lizzie McGuire, but like it didn't imprint on me. No, I was imprinted by the Cheetah Girls. You were. Absolutely. I really thought I was fucking Galleria. There wasn't enough left in my imprint after Hannah walked away.

37:18Jackie Oshry:I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the fourth Cheetah Girl who's not in here, isn't she dating the guy from Boy Meets World and she's involved in that big scandal, Matthew Lawrence, with Cheryl Burke from Dancing with the Stars, remember? I don't think so. And Cheryl makes like all this crazy content on TikTok about like her ex. No. And he's dating the cheetah girl. I think I'm right. He's not dating her. Oh, no. Wait, you're right. Chili is who he's dating. Because they're both in, but they're both from the band 3LW?

37:44Claudia Oshry:Maybe. That goes deeper. Or TLC, I can't remember. That goes deeper. No, you're right, you're right. And Lynn Whitfield and Lori Alter said to reply to their roles as Dorothea and Juanita.

37:56Jackie Oshry:Oh, my God. You're kidding, the moms. Like, that's huge. I'm not even messing with you. Me and my fanfic Reddit cheetah sisters,

38:04Claudia Oshry:we're freaking about this. Just know if you have a character in your show named Juanita, it will be a success. We are watching. It's true. So joining the beloved Disney franchise is Sophia Bush. I saw this video. Oh, what? Sophia Bush in the role of Jennifer. What? With Lea Sava Jeffries as Galleria's daughter Faith. Carmen Sanchez as Chanel's sister Dior. Yeah. Kayleen Chang. That's funny. Her name is Dior. Kayleen Chang as Ruby. And Sophie Lennon as Brooklyn.

38:32Jackie Oshry:So I saw like the new gen. I saw Disney Plus put out a video of them like dancing with like juicy couture sweatshirts that say Cheetah Girls on the back. And it was like very much, you know, new gen Cheetah Sisters. Not the same. But that's definitely what the youth needs is the Cheetah Girls, Cheetah Sisters. Because the message of love and unity and just sort of coming as you are. Yeah. And of course, sisterhood.

38:53Claudia Oshry:So here's the logline. And the story picks up when the cheetah girls, Galleria and Chanel, alongside Galleria's daughter and her three friends, travel to Africa to volunteer at a wildlife sanctuary. Along the way, these 14 girls test their friendship, find their voice, and discover the true cheetah spirit as they save the preserve and ultimately take the stage as the new cheetah girls.

39:12Jackie Oshry:Oh. Oh, I see what they're doing. I was like, why are they going to the wildlife preserve? Because they're the cheetah girls. And they're going to save the reserve. I love it. Inspired, actually, really. I love it. I love that.

39:24Claudia Oshry:The production will begin later this month in South Africa. It better. Yeah. Hopefully it fares better than Lizzie McGuire. Yeah.

39:31Jackie Oshry:I didn't know if like Raven was like where she left her relationship with Disney. You know? Yeah. She did come back. She did Raven's Home. And I think that like ended poorly. Annalise Vanderpoel is always on TikTok like alluding to it. More like girl just tell us. So I don't know. And then she like went on The View. She's had like kind of a weird post Disney career. Yeah. But I guess she's all good with the Disney execs, her and Bob Iger. She is all good. That's good to hear. Yeah. You love to hear it.

39:59Claudia Oshry:I think it's, I mean, you know how I feel about reboots, but living in reboot world, like this is not a good one. Right, there are worse ones. Yeah.

40:05Jackie Oshry:What do you think has been the worst reboot?

40:10Claudia Oshry:So many to choose from. Yeah.

40:16Claudia Oshry:Well, whatever has been the worst reboot, I wouldn't have seen it.

40:19Jackie Oshry:Oh, I know what it was.

40:20Claudia Oshry:Snow White.

40:21Jackie Oshry:Gossip Girl.

40:23Claudia Oshry:yeah and I did get to because I can't say something was the worst reboot if I didn't watch it but it's like if I knew it was the worst reboot I wouldn't have watched it but I actually did watch that piece of garbage the amount of press money spent on that one season of garbage was insane insane they spent so much and did so much that it's actually a shock that they

40:42Jackie Oshry:canceled it after one season

40:43Claudia Oshry:admitted that it was a failure

40:44Jackie Oshry:no not even admitted like give it a go maybe try one more no but like

40:47Claudia Oshry:but when you just are so full steam head on something like you just keep Fake it till you make it. Yeah. Don't let us know that everything you did was a failure. They worked with every influencer. Yeah. They did every collab. It was the big. I think they actually filmed at the Met Gala. It was the biggest thing. You forget about it.

41:03Jackie Oshry:Now it's sort of like COVID. It was the biggest thing. Speaking of things you forgot about. So Ben is going to the Bon Jovi concert and he was like listening to Bon Jovi last night. And you know what song I was reminded of? Tell me you remember the iconic collab between Bon Jovi and Jennifer Nettles. Do you know what I'm talking about? And it was like a Habitat for Humanity. Like sponsorship.

41:23Claudia Oshry:Who says you can't go home? You don't know that song? I do know that song. Is that their song?

41:28Jackie Oshry:That's a Bon Jovi Jennifer Nettles collab. Original song? I know. And you know, I used to listen to that song all the time when I was a kid. And then like yesterday I started listening to it and I was watching the music video and it was like, it's a Habitat for Humanity. I don't know. The song was connected to like a philanthropic effort. I guess all about like building homes because the song was called Who Said You Can't Go Home. That song is so good. I just love that song.

41:51Claudia Oshry:Good song. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Three. Oh, are you sure? Positive. Four. Okay. Not positive. Oh, yeah, four.

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47:43Claudia Oshry:lot going on over there i actually saw a video of like melania i saw that too and antonia gorga driving.

47:50Jackie Oshry:Did you see that Gabriela was the daughter who allegedly called the police on Melania?

47:56Claudia Oshry:She's not like those other sisters. No. She's not here for the drama. No. Our next story, Emmy nominations came out today. Here is the full list of nominees. Okay. A lot of these are like familiar. You see Shimmerhouse was nominated for an Emmy? Yeah, I did. And they fired Wes and Amanda. No, they gave them an Emmy nomination. It's true. Outstanding drama series. The Diplomat. The Gilded Age. A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. Paradise. The Pit. Slow Horses. Your Friends and Neighbors.

48:26Jackie Oshry:I watched two of those shows. The Pit. Your Friends and Neighbors. Your Friends and Neighbors was really good. Outstanding. Would you say it was outstanding? Yeah.

48:34Claudia Oshry:I would say the two shows that I watched there, I would give it to Your Friends and Neighbors, honestly. Outstanding comedy series. Your Friends and Neighbors is also like comedy, though. No, it's not. Yeah, it is. It's a drama. He's like silly.

48:44Jackie Oshry:It has like a clever narrator, but overall it's a drama series.

48:48Claudia Oshry:Outstanding comedy. Abbott Elementary, The Bear, Margot's Got Money Troubles, Nobody Wants This, Only Murders in the Building, Shrinking, Widow's Bay, Hacks.

48:59Jackie Oshry:Hacks is going to win. It's like the last season and they've swept the category. It's always the last season. No, it's over. And they swept the category

49:05Claudia Oshry:like every year since. It's always the last category. Outstanding limited series. All Her Fault. I think All Her Fault, you and I didn't see it but everybody was obsessed with it was really good um I should not have watched it postpartum but it was really good the beast in me beef DTF St. Louis and love story

49:24Jackie Oshry:love story wasn't good like I liked the conversations that we all had and like the genre it started you know everyone's dressing like Carolyn Bessette very sleek but the show was bad I actually don't even know if I watched the last episode because it was so I did I did

49:35Claudia Oshry:but it was bad yeah agreed all her fault for sure that was the show of the year and Sarah Snook I

49:41Jackie Oshry:know she got nominated for her role in that like she was chilling yeah she's an amazing actress

49:44Claudia Oshry:outstanding lead actor in a drama series sterling k brown paradise gary oldman slow horses mark ruffalo task rufus sewell the diplomat noah wild the pit um i only watched the pit there

49:58Jackie Oshry:i don't like finish this season so and like i wasn't even not enjoying it it was just like not that compelling it's like the same thing like okay you know um so i don't really i don't have a

50:07Claudia Oshry:horse and srace yeah outstanding lead actress in a drama series carrie coon gilded age chase infinity the testaments carrie russell the diplomat ria seahorn pluribus and zendaya euphoria well i think

50:21Jackie Oshry:that our show sponsor who lose the testaments should win i agree i think people are surprised

50:27Claudia Oshry:for euphoria only zendaya and coleman domingo got nominated i mean i didn't watch i only watch clips on but it was very much like cassie's season yeah and um and based on it's a huge snub it is a snub because also based on the clips not only was it her season like in her story primarily to lose like her acting was amazing there were so many conversations about like her lack of botox and just like her ability to emote and like everyone was talking about the show they were talking about her whether or not zendaya like had a large role in it i wouldn't know but people weren't talking about it very much.

51:02Jackie Oshry:Yeah. No, this is a huge snub. Like for real.

51:07Claudia Oshry:Outstanding supporting actor in a drama series. Oh, I just want to take a look back.

51:10Jackie Oshry:I think Carrie Coon is going to win. Okay. People are obsessed with The Gilded Age. I'm like annoyed that I watched the first season, didn't like it, gave up in the second season because like it was not getting better. I think it gets so good. I just don't know if I have the energy to sit because I would have to rewatch from the beginning. And like when a show has a bad first or second season, like it's just unreasonable for you

51:28Claudia Oshry:to ask me to get through that just because you say it gets good. No, I want to watch it again. I'm not starting the first season. I'll start from season two, episode one. Like Stassi loves it. She says it's the best show ever. But also Stassi loves Outlander and I did not like Outlander and I watched well into the second season. It just wasn't for me. You know what I want to watch based on clips I've seen? Based on Jensa? Call the Midwife. I don't know it. I see all of these clips that are like synopses of episodes. It's like, you know, early 1900s. They're like midwives in England and it's like a health, you know drama women's health and they like have all these mysterious cases yeah but i just feel like back in the day like women were constantly dying in childbirth so like i feel like oh that's like sad but it's like downton vibes yeah no i get it i think i would like it i just feel like

52:09Jackie Oshry:like a woman would die every episode if it's being accurate no no but it's like it's a bunch

52:13Claudia Oshry:of things and i'm sure we also you know learn about the midwives lives right of course like how did they grow up yeah um i'm just gonna skip around a little bit and this is the award show

52:25Jackie Oshry:that Mariska's hosting, right? Yes, it is. Okay, so... Did SVU get on?

52:29Claudia Oshry:She's definitely won an Emmy, right? Like a daytime. 1 ,000%. Yeah, these are not the daytimes. Outstanding Reality Competition Series, Dancing with the Stars, RuPaul's Drag Race, Survivor, Top Chef, and The Traitors. Also, Ariana Maddox has been nominated as host for Love Island.

52:47Jackie Oshry:Wow, who else was in that category?

52:48Claudia Oshry:In the category of Outstanding Host for a Reality or a Reality Competition Program category are RuPaul Charles. is his last name. I think I knew that actually.

52:57Jackie Oshry:It's not, I think Paul's a middle name.

52:59Claudia Oshry:Namesake. Rue. Charles. Rue. Charles. All right. Rue Paul can come on namesake. He's on my list. Rue Paul can come on namesake.

53:08Jackie Oshry:Huge.

53:08Claudia Oshry:Alan Cumming of Traders. I'm excited. Alan Cumming of Traders.

53:13Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

53:14Claudia Oshry:Kristen Kish of Top to Chef.

53:16Jackie Oshry:I actually feel like this is not the first time Ariana's been nominated because I actually remember having this conversation last year being like, that's cool for her but she's never going to win only because it's such a stacked.

53:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Well, Alan Cumming won the last two years. Prior to that, Rue. It was Rue for like a decade. Eight years. Yeah. Kristen from Top Chef, who we know from. Traitors. And Jeff Probst of Survivor.

53:35Jackie Oshry:Oh, yeah. Sorry, Ariana. Like, you're not going to win. But that's actually awesome that you got nominated twice. It is awesome.

53:39Claudia Oshry:And it's sad she's not going to win for letting us know there's going to be a massive dumping. Massive dumping.

53:44Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Like, the thing is, is like, it's actually crazy that you could do that job and get nominated for an Emmy. Do you know what I mean?

53:49Claudia Oshry:Yeah. She's actually doing a really good job at the job. I agree.

53:53Jackie Oshry:I have no complaints about her. No, she like has really become the host.

53:58Claudia Oshry:Like she sort of like blends into the show. Sometimes when someone's a host and it's like a buzzy person who's not like a professional host, it's just like they object to personality. They're like obvious. It's like, what are you doing there? But like she really like is seamless with the show.

54:11Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I think that for a while it was a rotating door of influencers, celebrities. Like, but I do think it's sort of her job in perpetuity now. She's very good at it.

54:20Claudia Oshry:Yeah, agreed. Was that the fifth and final? No. Oh, sorry. The fifth and final. I know you would want to skip it, and maybe you know that it's the fifth and final, and that's why you tried to leapfrog over it. What did the Romanovs do now? Justin Baldoni and his wife, Emily, are breaking their silence on injustice and trauma two years after their Blake Lively dispute began. Justin and his wife put out an Instagram video beginning by saying, we have not spoken publicly for the better part of the last two years, and it's not because we haven't had anything to say. Of course. Because Lord knows we have.

54:48Claudia Oshry:But it just felt like every time we wanted to make a video like this, we wanted to speak. Something was telling us not to. your lawyers. It just didn't feel like the right time and we were talking about it and feeling into it and praying about it. You don't need to explain. Like we know why you couldn't. We're in this massive lawsuit. Like we're good. We're not dumb. But she said this feels like the moment. She spoke a lot. There's so much to say, she said. While they did not say much. They didn't say anything. They did say that they have immense gratitude for so many people and so many things that have happened to them.

55:17Claudia Oshry:Gratitude doesn't negate the injustice and the pain that we have also felt in the last few years. We've had to wrestle with so many things and try to understand so many things. Like how could something like this even happen, let alone disguised as a fight for women? So much to unpack. She shared that she and Justin have experienced a lot of trauma that makes it difficult to speak openly. I agree. Like I agree that that's how they're feeling. If you're having a difficulty speaking openly,

55:38Jackie Oshry:like don't make a video statement.

55:39Claudia Oshry:No, but they have to like come back. But I also.

55:41Jackie Oshry:I guess like I didn't realize like people are waiting for them to say something because like it's over. I didn't know that people were waiting. So I was like, oh, they released a video.

55:48Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but also like I imagine they're traumatized from this situation. and whether or not like he was who said she said he said like he's been in a legal battle fighting for his life for the last two years not really able to say anything about it i don't think they have like massive streams of income no i agree outside financially this was about they do have like big backers yes but like what are they going to pay your rent yeah like that's a back how long yeah right for how long someone was paying his legal bills though because yeah because also wayfair wayfair but like you know for his actual life like this is very destabilizing um you can't really speak on it because everything will be used against you she uh he said we don't even know if this is the right thing to say we just know we need to share something like even Blake and Ryan like even if she's wiped out he's dead poor no of course they are financially fine you know she's they have multiple businesses they're investors Mint Mobile of course our favorite partners over at Mint Mobile and they have us supporting Mint Mobile so you know that you're set for life you're set for life yeah mailbox money yep absolutely um so this is like very scary for that agreed and so they have to make an effort to come back to the public like he has to get work

56:53Jackie Oshry:he has to you know i don't think he'll have a problem he's been exonerated like the public loves him she's the devil and he's the victim like i think they're both i think people in the industry might not want to work with him just because he comes with a lot of like but he was always like directing his own movies with his own production company he'll be fine i don't think he'll be fine he has so many fans he has to put in work if you have fans you can pay your rent like that's true he has a lot of like die women who would like actually leave their husbands kill themselves for him like they love how can you monetize that though oh you can have a convention a group trip like you can figure it out you can do a convention yeah like remember when armie hammer was like doing stuff like that like there's stuff to be done if you have fans especially

57:30Claudia Oshry:female fans like you are completely fine well first step is like coming back making a video getting back on social media making people feel like you see them and they see you and so that's what this was and you know what like i wasn't a fan before i'm not a fan now i'm not gonna stand his way. Yeah. I'm just going to like not tell

57:50Jackie Oshry:everyone what I really think because nobody wants to hear. No tell us.

57:52Claudia Oshry:You've come this far. Why? The storm has passed.

57:56Jackie Oshry:No no it's like I know people like tune in and they want to enjoy the show and they get mad when I talk about Justin Maltoney. But they keep coming back

58:02Claudia Oshry:because I think they want to hear it.

58:04Jackie Oshry:Time will be on my side.

58:06Claudia Oshry:You think so still? I do. Is there something coming out? Or is this not it?

58:11Jackie Oshry:I can't speak on that matter. Legally I'm involved in a lawsuit so I just need to be involved in a lawsuit so I can say that like guys I can't talk about it yeah so let's dive into Dear Toasters our weekly advice so every these days this is the last week actually because Love Island's over so next week we're back on Tuesdays but we do a weekly

58:27Claudia Oshry:advice segment when does Love Island end this week I thought when please this week right like this week this show is a week long so like what day

58:36Jackie Oshry:of the week this week maybe okay whatever Dear Toasters our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help out. By Monday night. If you've ever been in a pickle, you know, at work or with your boyfriend or at home and you thought, oh, I wish Jackie and Claudia, like what would they do? I wish they would yell at me. Well, write it to your toasters and you just might be

58:53Claudia Oshry:our next victim. Oh, I guess that's unburdening yourself when you have a guilty conscience and you want us to yell at you. That's unburden.

58:58Jackie Oshry:Deartosters at gmail.com. That's the website you could write into or you can head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Both methods, equally, you have equal opportunity to get on the show and they're both anonymous so don't worry we'll never blow up your spot. Our first is an update. So this is a Dear Toasters that we recently unearthed. So about eight years ago somebody wrote into us and was talking about how her in-laws are very insistent on paying for her wedding and it's making her feel - This came from Dear Toasters throughout history. So this happened literally eight years ago. She was like, it just feels like we've been saving and we can afford it and we're really proud and how do I tell my in-laws to fuck off?

59:33Jackie Oshry:And Jackie and I went back and re-listened to that episode and we were genuinely shocked and horrified to find out that we supported this girl. we were like yeah just tell him to like fuck off like we were really just encouraging her totally

59:43Claudia Oshry:understand and respect why you want to pay for your wedding in mind that's important to you we

59:46Jackie Oshry:were and how it's offensive that they might not understand that we were supporting her like tell

59:49Claudia Oshry:your husband to tell them that they can take their money and shove it up their ass like worst advice

59:53Jackie Oshry:ever we were genuinely horrified at our own reactions this is a whole series we did on patreon last week just like revisiting old dear toaster submissions i do think the advice was

1:00:02Claudia Oshry:given in may 2020 and we were obviously in a fragile state of mind to not say anything that I would muddy or ruffle any feathers.

1:00:09Jackie Oshry:So good to know that that girl is still a toaster. And she said, as a Dear Toasters update, I am cracking up listening to the Dear Toasters patron and my submission about my in-laws offering to pay for some of the wedding came back up. First of all, love you girls. And I'm happy to report that I do now own a house with my husband. So paying for our wedding didn't make us go broke. Now looking back, I too agree that I should have just taken the money and shut up. I think at the time, being the first to get married on both sides just made everyone lose their marbles and take ownership in our wedding.

1:00:34Jackie Oshry:So paying for it was our way of having the wedding that we wanted. that being said I've learned over the years and just having kids too that if someone wants to offer a nice gift like that just take it why stress back in 2019 I agree I was hard headed about the principle of things but now if someone wants to take something off my plate money hashtag let them love you girls and love the DTQ so we've all grown we've all grown up together that's really beautiful I love that and you know what we were saying we're like let them buy you a house or like you let them pay for the wedding and then use the money you were going to spend and buy a house so you shoot out the house and the wedding and a lesson that's beautiful Yeah, but that money's just sitting there.

1:01:08Jackie Oshry:I think the best part of this is that this girl's still a toaster. Like, that's loyalty.

1:01:11Claudia Oshry:And that, like, she grew with us. And, like, even though we all were unwell at the time, thinking that that was, like, a normal, proud thing to do and a righteous thing to do, like, we've all come to our senses.

1:01:20Jackie Oshry:And that's just part of growing up. It's like, you're going to make decisions that you don't agree with. And thankfully, this wasn't, like, a catastrophic one. All right, next up. Hey, Jackson Claude. My husband came home from work the other night in a foul mood. He said it was an exhausting day. He works an hour from home as a water treatment supervisor. for context I also work full time in an office everything my daughter is five and three and I did or said he just immediately responded with something rude I brushed it off we ate dinner I suggested we take a family walk after as we were leaving the house I saw he had on his slippers like moccasin style I asked him why he didn't put his sneakers on his response to me was why don't you shut your fat fucking mouth in front of my daughters as well he claimed later it wasn't

1:01:56Claudia Oshry:actually calling me fat but it's not your mouth is but it's not the first time he's insulted me

1:02:02Jackie Oshry:with that line i'm hurt because i'm self-conscious about my appearance what should i do well the thing is like no one's more self-conscious about their appearance like i get it but like that really shouldn't be the focus of this saga like the fact that your husband said that to you in general but also in front of your kids like that's the bigger issue i don't think you should whether or not you shouldn't be reading into it whether you're fat or not like that's not the problem like imagine someone saying that to your daughters they're gonna like grow up thinking that's a

1:02:24Claudia Oshry:normal way to be spoken to no also like a parent this seems like a sort of a usual occurrence that he like comes home in a terrible mood like ignore him tell him to leave the house yeah until he comes back like you got to do what you got to do you got to work with what you have and like he's in a horrible you're not going to make him in a better mood you literally gave him two beautiful children a beautiful night you work full-time walk like that's just a beautiful night and if he can't see that like there's nothing you can do to make him see like how beautiful his life is but you should tell him like why don't you leave or you go upstairs or you watch tv like i don't want to be around you and you shouldn't be around us because like this is a happy home and you're not

1:02:57Jackie Oshry:a happy person yeah I just want you to be a little bit more focused on like your daughters in the situation more than yourself because like obviously if somebody said fat fucking mouth like I'm also like spiraling did you call me that did you call me that but like that's really not the issue here the issue here is like he's very comfortable speaking so derogatorily to you in front of your kids like that's just gonna inform how they see the world and the type of relationships that they get into and it's like that's not good so I would remove him from situations when yeah you need to

1:03:21Claudia Oshry:start like having dinner and going for walks like of course he needs anger management and he's a piece of shit like obviously of course high level high level obviously there's bigger issues here but like in terms of the day-to-day and you have your hands full like remove you and the kids from those situations or remove him like if he doesn't want to go watch tv or leave the house or whatever like you guys go out for dinner you guys go for a walk don't invite him but also like that is verbal

1:03:44Jackie Oshry:abuse like yeah of course like i really like i don't want to tell you to leave your man because

1:03:48Claudia Oshry:like obviously there's two kids and like there's like you're a man's a piece of fucking shit like

1:03:52Jackie Oshry:That needs to be, like, can't be stressed enough. Honestly, stay away from him. Yeah. Like, at this point, he's very much like a sperm donor and, like, a roommate and, like, a rent payer. Yeah. A boarder. Yeah. He is your board, your ward. And, like, thanks for the contribution. But, like, you need to stay away from him and you also need to take your girls away from him. Stay away from your husband. Yeah. That goes for all of you bitches. Like, some of the people you guys write into us about, like, that's your man, your man, your man. Stay away.

1:04:19Claudia Oshry:And when divorce is not an option in the current...

1:04:22Jackie Oshry:Because it's not... We get a lot of shit for saying that, by the way. Yeah. It's just... Sorry, sometimes divorce is not an option. And that's what you have to be...

1:04:27Claudia Oshry:It's either not the right time or it just would be so messy, so emotional for you, for your children. Sometimes it's not the best option in that moment. Financially, custody-wise. Yeah. Sometimes it's not the best option in that moment. And then what? Three and five should go with him half the time? Correct. To be spoken to like that? With the abuser? No. Stay away from your husband. Just stay.

1:04:46Jackie Oshry:All you guys. All right. Third and final. Hey, girlies. but it's true. My boyfriend of two and a half years is just the best. Oh, we? I'm 25, he's 27. We're talking engagement, I could not be happier but the one fault to him is that he pees the bed. We're in a phase of life, of weddings, nights out, we're both social drinkers. My boyfriend has been known since college to pee the bed whenever he gets too drunk and now this has happened several times since we've been together. He gets embarrassed so I normally just don't address it but it's starting to get on my nerves. Like I just don't, like just don't drink so much, right?

1:05:15Jackie Oshry:Right. Any advice on how you could bring this up to him without making it sound like I'm cutting him off or embarrassing him. Love ya.

1:05:19Claudia Oshry:So yes, being in college, drinking a lot, some people pee the bed. Every now and then. So I'm glad that at least we understand why he's peeing the bed. As someone who is also going through potty training, a couple of hacks to make your life simpler, you know, put the wee-wee pads under the sheet. But see, this is a boyfriend, not a dog. And not a toddler. So here's the thing. At 27 years old that you're getting that drunk that you pee the bed, you're drinking too much.

1:05:45Jackie Oshry:Yeah, and sometimes, like, maybe he just has a more sensitive bladder but sometimes people don't have a drinking problem but they get like either really evil when they drink or like they pee the bed that just i'm sorry like you can't drink anymore something like that doesn't mean you have a drinking problem or even that you're drinking too much but you just don't react you're drinking too much you have to

1:06:02Claudia Oshry:stop like that's really it yeah so i would say at 25 and 27 it is the time to start turning down

1:06:10Jackie Oshry:the dial on binge drinking and people who still drink as much at 27 as they did in college no that's like a six-year period where you really are supposed to be growing out of it you can of

1:06:21Claudia Oshry:course still party and like there's a wild night bed no multiple times yikes yeah so and this i'm

1:06:31Jackie Oshry:sorry someone who's like actively peeing the bed is not someone who's also ready to get engaged i just want to let you know not to be like the bearer of bad news yeah no you guys need to drink less

1:06:40Claudia Oshry:I know we're super fun bless you I know but like drinking less is always a good idea unfortunately so true it's always a good idea and I'm not saying don't drink because if you have a glass of wine or two glasses of wine you're not peeing in the bed no no no you're peeing in the bed because your bladder is full and you're too out of it to wake yourself up for the feeling let me tell you something as somebody also as someone who's potty training we make sure we go pee pee before sleepy of course pee pee before sleepy I'm trying not to like

1:07:04Jackie Oshry:drink your juicy before bed the thing is is that we stop drinking two hours before bed. I feel like I have a healthy bar of like I still drink and even before I became mom I drank a lot. I would black out a lot. I was not shy. Let me tell you I've never peed the bed. Like ever not once. Yeah. It's an insane level to get to. And I think it gets normalized in like frat culture but it's really not normal.

1:07:29Claudia Oshry:No and like keep it in the fraternity. I'm not living in a frat house. Right. This is a grown up home. And I'm changing the sheets multiple times a week.

1:07:37Jackie Oshry:It's so hard to change sheets. I'm sorry that you're dealing with that. Genuinely, Godspeed.

1:07:41Claudia Oshry:Or you could make his half of the bed no blanket. Tarp. Tarp, yeah. If that's how you want to live your life, you get the tarp. It's up to you. These are supposed to be the fun times of your relationship. So if he's sleeping on the tarp... You never get any sleep. The tarp is so loud. Yeah, and this is cause for separate beds. But you guys are dating. Wait, we're not even engaged and we're sleeping in separate beds. Just call it off now. Yeah. Sorry. If he won't drink less, then he's just immature. Forever frat boy. It will continue to be an issue, unfortunately.

1:08:06Jackie Oshry:nip it in the bud sweetie nip it in the bud that's our show that's Dear Toasters thank you to everybody who wrote in and thank you guys for listening I remember pee pee

1:08:12Claudia Oshry:before sleeping really? title

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