Pretty and Pregnant Privilege: Monday, May 18th, 2026

15:27And it said Amanda Hirsch, Amy Schumer. And I was like, first of all, I didn't know that everybody was bringing guests. Like, we don't do guests. And we never would have brought one. but I just like didn't know that that was like I guess that's what people do on like live shows. Yeah yeah. So when Ben told me he was bringing on a guest I'm like that's weird but I guess it wasn't. We were the weird ones. We were the weird ones. Amy Schubert came down to the dressing room was like swirling it up with everyone like she was so regular.

15:47Jackie Oshry:She looked so pretty and she came up to us and she was like I want to meet you guys. I'm such a fan of the toast. Yeah. Yeah and then she did her segment and Slade and then Ben and Josh went and Slade and then Jackson Turd went and obviously Slade.

16:00Claudia Oshry:Jackson Turd came out of live show retirement. I know. Did it make you want to do more? Yes for sure I like It's everything around it That's really hard You know like the traveling Or like missing bedtime Or whatever But like being on stage With the swirlies Like genuinely is electric Yeah it was It's addicting Yeah so we will At some point do more It was nice to come out For one night only Just like pop in Pop out But it's definitely Like in our future Once we can like Move freely Move freely We're not in a Free movement time In our lives No You know Yeah it was great Yeah so it was fun To just like one night Be a rock star And they also like threw together such a nice event.

16:35Everybody there, they got PR bags to go home with from all the brand sponsors. It was kind of really well put together. There was custom cocktail napkins. They said, what are you nuts? What are you nuts? And they had lots of sponsored activations. Everybody was getting true fruit and cloud popcorn for free. Love it. I ate so much true fruit when I was there. It was all over the dressing rooms. I've never seen those individual size. You get one piece of fruit. Pretty smart.

16:59Kylie Jenner:One fruit for true. or Trudeau. Trudeau. Trudeau. I love that. So today's story is like we kind of got to get into them because it's going to be hard not to. And I left my iPad in New York. So if you're wondering why I look like Dan Rather, it's because I am the Dan Rather of my generation. And we're going analog today with the sponsors. So thank you to our sponsors at the Dunder Mifflin Paper Co. Without further ado, it is time for the past five stories that you do need to know.

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21:51Claudia Oshry:Okay, our first story. Throw out the whiteboard because Alex Cooper is pregnant. She shared yesterday on Instagram. She is expecting her first baby with her husband, Matt Kaplan. So she posted a photo of the two of them loved up and bump in and said, our family. Now, turns out they probably are sleeping in separate bedrooms. Maybe, like, the smell of him has started to bother her. Maybe she needs more room or maybe the pregnancy pillow just sort of only left room for one. So good to know that those rumors were true. or no but it's funny because the rumors were that like her and her husband like are rocky and they're splitting up and those articles were coming out for weeks and it's like no you couldn't have been further wrong because they're pregnant yeah now i need people to like have normal reactions to this and i've seen some really like genuinely upsetting things first of all people saying oh you know they're probably having a baby to fix their marriage like seriously stop now when someone gets pregnant like they are off limits i'm sorry they are and i actually feel really bad that she was dealing with this in her first trimester you know i had a little bit of a scandal during one my pregnancies.

22:47One of my, I've only had one during my one and only pregnancy. And let me tell you, it was really hard. Like it messes with your mental health and like, I feel bad for her. What scandal did you have? Well, sorry, we. Yeah. And we didn't even do anything. Like I was getting canceled and I literally was just like laying in bed. It was insane. So I will tell you, it's very hard on your health. So I feel bad for her.

23:06Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Another reaction. It's not why they went to Hawaii. Yeah, of course. Get away from it all. Another reaction. Like, again, I need people to be normal. It's like, well, Alex Earl obviously knew that she was pregnant so she withheld in getting herself involved and making it worse for Alex Cooper and it's like, okay, she obviously didn't know that she didn't know she was pregnant I don't think that she did but also, Alex Cooper did open the ring while she was pregnant but she was also probably just feeling like you also just get impatient and also pregnancy and having babies makes you tough and makes you just be like, nothing matters Only a crazy hormonal pregnant woman would start this drama Honestly.

23:42But also like sometimes when you're like younger and scared, you just like shy away from things. But the confidence that comes with like pregnancy and being a mother, you're like, say it. Yeah. Let's fight. Yeah, of course. I want to say something and I know you don't want me to say it, but I do want to say like, and it's just like the most annoying thing you can say, but like I did have a feeling she might be pregnant. And if you watch the video, I only saw the trailer, her episode with Kevin Hart, like the roots. That's why I'm so glad I don't dye my hair. Like you can't dye your hair in the first trimester or the whole pregnancy.

24:08Claudia Oshry:Some people don't do it whole pregnancy, but definitely not first trimester. but it opens up so your roots will give you away I guess so I think she thought like the slick backbone would help but she just changes up her hair really I actually feel like it's the one thing she doesn't change no she's like had different shades of blonde like some people grow their roots out some people like are transitioned to brunette like it could be it could be a bunch of stuff yeah well the roots are a dead giveaway for the blonde swirlies so thankfully we don't have that problem yeah I think this is nice like yeah it also it is really crazy because I feel like it's so like against her ethos you know It's very incongruous with like, I don't know.

24:42Claudia Oshry:Her messaging. Her messaging. I don't want to say her because I don't know her. And I feel like there's a complete difference between like what she puts out in the world and who she actually is. Because a lot of the content that she's become famous for, I don't know what she says on every single episode, but a lot of like the ethos is like, you know, women, we don't need a man. Dump him. Well, she's like getting married and having babies. She's very traditional. Yeah. Yes. She actually is very traditional. When yes, a lot of her messaging like encourages fellow woman. To like be independent. Right.

25:10Men stink. Right. Break up with your boyfriend. And I think she also recently did an episode about like how okay it is to like, you know, push kids down the line. That was kind of recent. So I think this is wonderful. I was shocked. Yeah, me too. Yeah. And I like being shocked.

25:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah, me too. But I also saw a video today that was like, she's just like won the battle because I don't think at this point, not that Alex Earl was like, this is changing anything for Alex Earl's plan. But like now it's kind of case closed. You're not going to go after a pregnant woman. Absolutely. No, it's definitely, it definitely changes the landscape of the fight. It also makes me want to start fights like when I'm pregnant because then no one's going to come after a pregnant woman, right? Absolutely. I need to call Ben. We need to get pregnant. You know, you're right. And we should always have like one of us.

25:53And I don't know if everybody agrees with this, but in terms of like internet, like drama, like I do feel like pregnant people are off limits. I really do. Yeah. Once it's. Once they're pregnant, but nobody knew. Right. So I didn't ever, like everyone should lay off.

26:05Claudia Oshry:So it shouldn't come out on the show? on the network. I actually do wonder if this changes Alex Earle's plans at all. Like maybe she was like planning on going in and it's like by then the show she'll be like nine months pregnant. That's even worse. Like yeah. I don't know. I really don't know. I'm curious. I feel like it doesn't change her plans. Okay. Because she does still need to respond. And she didn't start this. She has her own brand to worry about and if she like has if she just leaves this open-ended forever like that's not good. Especially if she has some big story to tell. Yeah. And she didn't start it.

26:35Claudia Oshry:So I guess like pregnant women then just get licensed to start stuff yeah which is also not fair yeah which is and not historically true but it is funny because when we saw the video one of our takes on it was like how out of character this was and like she never you know sort of it's the confidence lowers herself confidence of a new mama it's not only that it's like the hormones too like it really will make you feel fed up yeah you're fed up so it it makes it like it also sort of like it's also kind of reductive to just be like she's a spiraling hormonal woman that's like when people are like She's on her period.

27:07She probably was on her period. Like, no, no, you're so right. It's so reductive. Not me being reductive.

27:12Claudia Oshry:No, but it's not about the hormones for me. It's about the fact that like when just so many bigger things are happening, like when your life is changing and you're pregnant and you become a mother, it just like puts things in a different sort of perspective. Absolutely. And you're sort of like fearless. How many weeks along do you think she is with that belly? I think she's just out of the first trimester because she also shared like on her Instagram yesterday, like so happy I can finally like I don't have to hide this belly anymore. So I feel like she was like waiting for like the first minute she could post.

27:36Claudia Oshry:Yeah. That's just my take. Oh yeah. And maybe she was going to post it like a little while ago, but she like didn't think, I feel like maybe she's like 20 weeks. Yeah. Cause like her announcement maybe got pushed back a little bit. Perhaps. But she would have been the one to push it back. Cause she posted the video. Right. Yeah. But she didn't know it was going to turn into like this whole vanity fair expose. Yeah. I also am curious like what this means for her content and her like branding, because she's like made a very intentional choice. like I want to say like five or six years ago to be very Gen Z.

28:04Like she's, you know, Gen Z language, Gen Z influencers, Gen Z content. Every like PR press article is like, you know, unwell. The voice of Gen Z network. Like that's they've led with Gen Z. They do like Gen Z programming. So is she going to become like millennial mama making reels? Making. I'm so curious. Like, will the reels do the reels begin now? I don't know. I actually do think she's low key been like turning millennial with all this reality content. Yeah. Like it's millennial women who love reality TV. And I don't think like Gen Z like. I don't think like Gen Z like being spoken to like by a not Gen Z person.

28:41Kylie Jenner:No. So maybe like there was a brand shift and she was like, oh, maybe I can have a baby.

28:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Also, I'm cracking up because my agent texted me this morning being like, do you actually want to go on Podstirs? Yes, she does. Yes, she does. You should. Only if they film in South Florida.

28:56Kylie Jenner:Only if they film in South Florida. And you don't have to live at the house. Like you can go home at night. Yeah, of course. Of course. I don't know if it's going to be pod stories, but like now, like. You're itching to do. I'm not itching. I'm curious about like one of these sorts of programs. Like it would be so fucking funny. Jackie should go on. What's the one that, why can't I even remember the name? Special Forces. Oh my God. You actually would win though. You have insane mental fortitude. Like people don't know that about you. Like how tough you are up here. The physical stuff like would be hard for you.

29:23No, but once I get into a physical shape, I'm an athlete. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But where you really like what your strength over anyone else is up here. It's both. It's mental and physical. I love that for you. Oh my God. I'm so down. No, I couldn't go on. And then I could like be what you did at Masked Singer. Like it's fun to watch someone else do the hard thing, you know? And like. No, I don't think Special Forces. I think that's again like too involved. Yeah. But something like very light.

29:43Claudia Oshry:Where it's like a bunch of like internet personality. Could you imagine me and them? I know. And then it's like sort of like a landline of like people we've talked about. Yeah. Oh, and then I'll obviously be in the drama because they'll be like you said this. This about the episode. And I'm just going to be like. Yeah, I did. Let's talk about it.

29:57Kylie Jenner:Let's not talk about it, actually. That's my art. I can't be held responsible for anything I say when I'm creating art. Yeah, but I think I would make friends to last a lifetime. I'm very friendly. You know? Yeah. I always cultivate a great group of friends. I would just hope that you would stay on long enough for people to really get to know you. Because like we were saying before, you come off, when people don't know you, they really think you're mean. You just have that sort of cold face. I would hope that you would stay on for the first three, four, five episodes so that everybody can get to know you.

30:23Like you're the nerd who everybody realizes he takes off his glasses and he's handsome. Yeah. Not only like my fellow cast members, but also the audience. Of course. You know, I think I would have a real arc with the audience. Oh, I've chills just thinking about the show. Maybe we should just produce it ourselves. Yeah, we should. Just to show everyone like my wild side. But you're the Bobby Flay. Yeah. You just go up against challenges on other internet stars.

30:44Kylie Jenner:No, we're like, we have to build like the house environment of a show that I could go on, you know? Yeah, so everybody brings their kids to the daycare. I actually think it could be pod stars if it films in like, say, Utah. and I can go with my family and I can sleep with my family and then go and stir the pot. Jackie on pot stir is when? I think it's like a Thanksgiving centered show. Oh, I'll come too. I don't want to be on the show, but we can like all stay in Utah for Thanksgiving. And we can do live shows. Pay the bills with live shows. I love that. I love it. I need more information on pot stir.

31:17But you text your agent, yes?

31:19Kylie Jenner:What did I say? I think maybe just like a bunch of LOLs. I don't know. Like nothing actually. I think I said only if they're filming in South Florida, LOL. Or Utah. Or if it's in Utah, get the deets. Get the deets. Even though the last one was in Utah. Well, she obviously likes you. And it can be a prerequisite to like you sleeping in the house. Like, no, no, no. Or I could do like Jackson hole, you know, somewhere beautiful. Aspen, Montana, Genovia. Fine. I'll go to Korshavall. Fine. We'll do it. We'll do it. Twist mountains.

31:56so funny so funny seriously crazy plot twists in this whole saga that she's pregnant like seriously mazel tov i really hope that like she didn't let it get to her i do feel like she's also very tough like in order to operate at the level that she's i know everybody like loves to like make their think pieces on tiktok but like sorry to get to the level that she's at like you have to be a different kind of beast and she definitely is like she has what it takes because there are a lot of podcasts who even interview high level people and they're not like operating at the level that she is so i do think it takes like a very special type of person And hopefully that's the same type of person who can just like stay sound of mind and at peace in a first trimester cancellation.

32:28Also, for the most part, if she turned off her phone, it goes away. It goes away, except it was like on the news. So it was it was turn off the local news, too. And this big alleged hit piece, which I imagine like her and her team and her lawyers are like involved in.

32:44Claudia Oshry:This is bad for Vanity Fair because like they should have gotten it in before this because now you just look like an asshole. It's a destabilizer. It's a neutralizer, this pregnancy. Especially if the article comes after their marriage a little bit. Right. And also tries to make the case that there's trouble in paradise. I think that the article, based on what I've heard, is really about him. Yeah. Not her. Which isn't a good look for everyone's feminist queen. That her husband's over here destroying her empire and stealing her money. But they haven't said anything yet, so I'm just making stuff up.

33:13Again, and I just think that the gap between the life she actually lives and the show is wide. I feel like really nobody knows her. I don't know her. Like who is – literally who in the world is Alexandra Cooper? It's kind of a slay. It's kind of nice. She has Shalom Bayit for sure. Well, I don't know about like recently. No, no, no. Up until recently. I wouldn't say Shalom Bayit, but like it is nice to not have the whole world know all your business. Yeah, agreed. And if you're able to like cultivate an audience and be a successful content reader while actually nobody knows nothing about you. It's a slay.

33:48I agree. You have privacy and like peace. Okay.

33:53Kylie Jenner:Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Some more feud news. Dina Manzo's daughter is fighting with Bethany Frankel. This is so crazy. Calling her a weirdo for failing to credit her shoe business. So Dina Manzo's daughter. I saw the video and I didn't know it was Dina Manzo's daughter. I saw the video knowing, like, I saw it with the context of Dina Manzo's daughter. I was going to say, it doesn't really change anything, the fact that she's her daughter. I mean, it's just, you should, like, yeah. It doesn't change that much, but it's like, I don't know, I guess it's just your main for the story.

34:20Kylie Jenner:Dina Manzo's daughter from the Real Housewives of New Jersey has a shoe company. It's called New Shoes. She posted a video calling Bethany Frankel a weirdo, citing the fact that she sent Bethany Frankel some of her shoes a while ago. She sent a screenshot of the message and she was like really like, you could see like very eager, like, hey, can I send you shoes? And like following up a million times and Bethany did accept the shoes.

34:40Claudia Oshry:Bethany accepted the shoes. Then this week doing Press for Source Illustrated, Bethany wore a very cute outfit, made a very cute video to like a Jessie J song. And she's wearing the shoes. And I guess the video like did really well for Bethany and people asked like where are the shoes from? And Bethany posted a screenshot of the shoes and said, here's where you can find a similar pair with a link. So Dina Manzo's daughter like made a video being like Bethany Frankel is a weirdo. Not only like did we send her shoes and she wears them and she loves them. But she posted a link, an affiliate link.

35:08So she's making money off the link to a dupe of the shoe. So someone who's like essentially knocking off her brand.

35:15Claudia Oshry:Because the shoes were sold out. Well, so she makes this video like talking like a lot of shit about her and how she's like a bad person. Because she linked the dupe shoes. And I was like, well, damn. Like it's Bethany. that is a weird thing to do Bethany had also worn the shoes a year ago before this and I guess like didn't tag but didn't do like an outfit reveal and she just wore them and didn't tag which like is really not a crime you send someone shoes and like you have to sort of when you're doing gifting like you have to make peace with the fact that like you're giving something for free and if they get it and they post it that's great but if not you can't you can't go into it having such high expectations wear the shoes and not tag is not a big deal at all the damning thing was that she had posted like an affiliate link to a dupe of the shoe.

35:57So I was like, oh, that's like very weird. What does Bethany have to say about this? So Bethany comes on and makes a video just being like, well, damn, you played yourself because the shoes were sold out. My audience doesn't like when I click to something that they can't buy. So I posted a similar pair and I had posted, made a video, it's in my drafts, of my outfit of the day with all the details. And if you had just waited, I would have posted that video and you would have gotten a boom. But instead you played the short game and you've pissed me off and you've missed out on what could have been.

36:27And I was like, well, damn. And she eventually did post a video that she had made that day. So like there was no, it was real. She literally took off the shoe to read the name of the brand and shared it with her audience of what the shoes were. And now, of course, there's beef between the two. And the internet loves to hate Bethany. And the internet loves a loser victim. So this girl who got her business on.

36:47Claudia Oshry:Oh, and then she also really lost it. She opened her shoes now for pre-order. Now everyone's blowing up her business. So this is like internet. You make yourself a victim and everybody loves you. When actually, like, yeah, Bethany's explanation of it, like, made a lot of sense. But you want her to do link sold out shoes? Right. And if you just had waited, like, she did kind of slay because she had the video. Now someone could say, like, she put the clothes back on. No, it was so clearly the same stoop where she made the Jessie J video. Yes, for sure.

37:17And, yeah, she's not going to link. I guess she could have said these are new shoes, but here is a similar pair. But that's, like, such a minor detail. This is also dupe culture. Like the internet dupe pipeline is insane. People love dupes. When she goes at the end that she was like, you know, that she would do this to like a small business, a woman owned business. Like, shut up. Right. She could do it if it was a man owned the business. Correct.

37:41Kylie Jenner:Could you do it if a man owned the business then? Then it's okay. Yeah. Like irrelevant. Agreed. So honestly, I was actually like ready to be like, oh, Bethany's gonna have to apologize. Like, this is so awkward. And then I saw Bethany's video. I was like, yeah, yeah. And Bethany was coming at it like giving business advice to a girl who seriously did not want to hear it. But basically being like, yeah, you shot yourself in the foot by making this whole big spectacle. But you know what? In the end of the day, while Bethany's business sense is very OG business, like internet drama, people love to side.

38:08They love to hate Bethany. They love to side with a small female business owner who was, you know. So she's, I'm sure, raking it in. Now she put the shoes. The shoes have been sold out. So there was nothing to sell. But now they're up for preorder. And everyone's, you know, to stick it to Bethany.

38:22Kylie Jenner:Great. Yeah, great. To stick it to Bethany, I'm going to spend a couple hundred dollars on shoes.

38:26Claudia Oshry:Right. Also, that's just like a moment, you know, like to have a viral moment with your products is really amazing. But that doesn't, that's not a brand. It does seem like, I didn't see her other shoes, but those shoes are really cute. So I think if she has like a great business, this could be like a great beginning of her business. But it's not like, you know, this, it will be a great moment, but you have to build on that momentum. Yeah. Yeah. It was a crazy story. and when I found out it was Dina Manzo's daughter, I didn't recognize her. Her name is Lexi, right? I mean, I remember from the early seasons, she looked so different.

38:56I had no idea. It came up on my, I saw this whole thing happen naturally. It came up on my For You page. She opens her video. Bethany Frankel is a weirdo. And I was like, oh, I wonder why. I'm sad. And I had no idea that it was her. And also I feel like in business, even if Bethany and I have never posted the second video, in business, like these are like shitty things that happen sometimes along the way that you're like, well, damn, that didn't go our way. And damn, we got a little bit screwed here and there. Now with like the internet, you can blow up every slight and like make a moment of it.

39:22But like these things happen. Not only that, but nothing happened. Like look, when you are a brand sending clothing to a celebrity, what is your biggest hope? That they wear them. She's literally at the biggest event of the weekend besides Dear Media by night. She's at Sports Illustrated. She's being paparazzi and holds up the picture. Literally wearing your shoes. What more could you want? And you told us now this is the second time she's worn them. So she did exactly what you wanted her to wear them. You also wanted her to post them. But like it's honestly giving Rosie and Kelsey the obsession with posting no I get it no it's like a small brand when you send somebody gifting like your hope and dream and wish upon a star is that they blow it up and post a million things but you have to be okay with you voluntarily asking us this happens all the time I remember I like I'm always saying like I sent this influencer and it's like you're begging someone to send them product they let you send sometimes they'll blow it up wear it all the time they love it so much sometimes they don't like it and never wear it and sometimes it's something like this where like they wear and they don't blow it up in the way that you wanted them to but like the expectation that you're just sending product to somebody who would probably get paid by a shoe brand a hundred thousand dollars for a tiktok or two like she wore them and she wore them to a major event what more do you want yeah i guess like this small slight was posting the dupe right um the dupe culture like we can get into dupe culture with an affiliate link but that was only because they were sold out right so what would you have liked her to post just like tagging that they were but she made the video saying that they were new she hadn't posted it yet yeah so i think all in all yeah she'll have a great moment i'm sure she has no regrets about what she did but big picture I don't think this was the move no and I don't think Bethany is now gonna be like working with a lot of small businesses like with TikTok followings yeah no I mean I don't know I think everyone makes a video about something like everyone's trying to like make their moment on someone else's thing like yeah but at the end of the day like we're still talking about Bethany so thanks we are always talking about Bethany yeah everything she does she can't wear a pair of shoes and post a link correct she looks great yeah she did look great um okay next story are you ready double date news jacob lordy and kendall jenner triple date i heard justin and hailey were there with kylie and timothy and allegedly justin and hailey that's what du maximo said okay well that makes it they weren't in the car i guess like kylie and kendall maybe are going to like hidden hills or like family-owned car yeah um well if it was just the four of them obsessed we were just talking about like do you think that jacob lordy and timothy jalamet like like the potential brother-in-law or do they beef with one another because they probably like kill each other for roles.

41:41I think they're different enough. And again, I think like Timothy is overly confident in his craft. Jacob definitely like works on it in the mirror with mantras. Yeah. Hi, Timothy. Nice to meet you. Hi, Timothy. How was your day? I'm really happy for you, Timothy. Timothy, you look great in orange. Timothy, I loved you in Marty Supreme. Timothy, go next. I think Timothy can like, you know, be friends with him. And I think this is cute. And I also, I just want to say I really like Kendall and Jacob Elordi. Like, yeah, I mean, it's like dating your twin brother, but yeah. They went to Hawaii. so like they're actually dating and I would love to see Kenny you know settle down.

42:12Yeah. I just don't get the vibe that like Jacob's in his settling down era even though every time I watch an interview of his he's like extremely well adjusted. He like is not a fame like whore. He brings his mom everywhere. Like I get the vibe loves baseball and his friends and his mom. Yeah. I just get the vibe that he's like ready to settle down even though nothing he does gives me that. And I don't know if she is like I know she's not like made any sort of like proclamation that like she feels differently right about life well cute double date super cute speaking of like people who have dated kendall jenner can we talk about harry styles really quickly sure i don't know if you saw over the weekend because i feel like it largely happened on tiktok it was opening night of his liz woods is keeping me abreast of his opening night of his weekend uh opening weekend of his tour um which i guess like up until recently has been really heavily criticized for its pricing um by ticketmaster or by resale i don't know i can't get into it but like by the fans the fans are upset but like is harry actually making the money I think he did dynamic pricing, which people hate.

43:10He's playing these huge arenas. And so there was a lot of expectations were high because if you're going to charge that much. And I feel like with the Aeros tour, like every person who said that they had to like sell, you know, take their kid out of college for a semester just to pay for tickets, didn't regret it. Like after the show, they were like, you know what? We've got a four hour show. I feel good about. There really wasn't a lot of backlash. And she did everything she could to keep the prices down. But like with scalpers and she didn't do dynamic pricing. So the expectations were high for Harry and opening weekend was just like kind of a flop.

43:35According to people who were there like I didn't go and I didn't watch any of the footage but the criticism I'm seeing for people who were there was like first of all it was completely bright in the stadium Which was just like a weird vibe This stage is the biggest thing you've ever seen. He doesn't really sing a lot of his like big notes He's like not singing well. He has the wired microphone running around this like big stage like the criticisms were We're there And I just feel like nobody like kind of wants to hear it But we have been talking for you know quite a few weeks and months that like this most recent drop of his.

44:06And we do always compare it to like the other pop girlies and I'm not like glad he's getting criticism but like if this was a female who like was charging thousands of tickets and like gave a very mid performance where like they're not even singing the notes to their own songs like we would all be talking about it. So we have to talk about it. It's a quality. Yeah, it's quality. Like and I think that the Aeros tour is a really good comparison because he's playing really huge venues. He's not really delivering. Interesting. It's been an interesting weekend for Harry Styles. I saw a couple of unfortunate clips that like I don't want to like judge the whole show I know because there used to be like clips that people would post of Taylor being like, this is your queen and it's her dancing.

44:38And also like people would post used to post like it's just about the context. They used to post clips of Harry Styles just standing there and be like, oh, my God, it's amazing. Here he is again standing there and it's no longer amazing. So I'm not like I you don't want to just take take a snapshot. But I guess, yeah, the discourse isn't super positive. But he did just have a baby and he's in his new mama era. So I think he didn't have a baby. I think he's doing what he can. That's what we would say about a woman. No. What's his excuse? He's engaged. He's in his new mama era. But maybe he's stressed from the wedding planning.

45:06No, I don't know what his excuse is, why he would have lost his voice. Yeah, like not even singing. That's the weird part. Like a lot of times you can criticize whatever, you know, like the outfits. But like if they sing, you sing. Why does he keep his shirt on, you know? That would be an easy fix. Just take your shirt off or something. Yeah, or your pants. Like seriously, everyone would be really happy. Wasn't he always shirtless before? I think like his shtick is just like a little over. Yeah. You know, like always with the male dancers and sexy male. And it's like, well, all you've ever done is take like the most beautiful women in the world.

45:33So like not to be woke, but like it's giving queer baiting. Yeah. And so I feel like a lot of his shtick is also it's like culture is like we're not really into the woke stuff. Like people are like moving on a little bit. So you don't think it would be like help if he put on a dress? I don't know. People do love when he wears a dress and it gets people talking. That's the thing. Yeah. I feel like the thing with Harry Styles is like no one's talking. Like we don't really care. Like the album stunk and like people are not living for him and his engagement. Like five years ago, not even three years ago, if you told me Harry Styles got engaged, like the world would have been turned upside down.

46:01Nobody cares. I kind of care. I feel like I care more than other people. Yeah. Like, I don't know why. He's just like not making an impact. Yeah. And it's not like he's been eclipsed. Like, who's like the new male pop star? No one. There's not like one. But if you think about like the males who are having a moment right now, it would be like somber and role model. And it's just like a different vibe. Yeah, it's a different vibe. And the vibe that he chose for this era was like 80s businessman. Yes. It's giving 80s businessman. Yes. And that's not like, you know, the moment right now. Absolutely.

46:28He's not meeting the moment. Yeah. Yeah, it's aging. Benson is almost going to break his neck throwing flips. But Benson is doing like OG Harry stuff because there are a lot of comparisons, which is very like Freddie Mercury coded. And it's working for Benson. Right, but Benson is doing more than Harry, you know? Yes, yes. Harry's doing the least. Yeah, yeah. No, it's just been interesting to see. Benson's throwing tricks at every show. Flips and schmips and handsprings, yeah. Yeah. So, okay. Are you ready for our next story? If it's our next story, that's brought to you by Z-Biotics, which is a company I'm like personally really invested in, not in a financial way, but like in an emotional way.

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52:56Kylie Jenner:Thank you. You're welcome. Third plan. You're welcome. How did everybody like my paperwork today? We liked it. Yeah, it was good. Thank you, Dan. I feel like if you're listening to this audio, you probably heard like shuffling. That was me just shuffling my papers. Classic papers. Classic Dan. Remember when we were at Dear Media and we did the photo booth for Face Foundry? And we sent the photos to my husband's email. Oh, yeah. Because it was like a touchscreen. I had to write like Claudia. So Jackie said her husband's email is so simple. It really was five letters. And so he just texted us the photos.

53:25Kylie Jenner:Oh. Yeah. There's one that's really cute. I don't know. I was like looking like big face. No, but it's like a black and white photo booth. It's like parge. But it was just funny.

53:33Claudia Oshry:I forgot that we did that. And then it's a little jiff, you know, like Monday morning. He got on his work email. I'm seriously cracking up.

53:39Kylie Jenner:You're thinking of him. Like imagine such a treasure. I mean, it is. It was a spritz event. Like spritz was served. Oh, big spritz news coming tomorrow. And I feel like we've really undersold like what we what we created.

53:50Claudia Oshry:Yeah, we've created something amazing. Kind of like an industry leading. It's going to like kind of change like the whole alcohol game. I know it sounds crazy. I'm not being drama, but like. watch this space watch this space and check this for its instagram tomorrow next up we filmed a commercial at jackie's house like yeah we did actual commercial yeah we did next up um gucci show making news i would say the lead story tom brady making his catwalk debut at the gucci show oh i'm sorry you know just speaking about gucci and demna reminded me of like an inappropriate joke about children i wanted to bring up okay i hate to be like woke mama do it But there was a joke.

54:24I watched SNL. You know, they do once a year where we can update Michael. And it's actually so funny. I always watch them. I don't really love SNL. But at the end of every season, we can update the two co-hosts who are Michael Che and Colin Jost.

54:37Jackie Oshry:They write jokes for one another. And they have to read them. And they don't get to see them before. So Michael writes jokes for Colin. They're always like really racist. And Colin writes jokes for Michael. And they're always like sexually inappropriate. And one of the jokes like actually wasn't funny. Like it really made me sick. And I'm not seeing enough hate. no oh Michael Jackson jokes I'm sorry like they are funny okay um so Colin Colin wrote this for Michael Che and it was like new reports say that like drinking grape juice is like 50 % more likely to give you an erect penis or whatever which makes sense because all my boyfriends love grape juice and they show a picture of like an actual six-year-old with a juice box oh no because all my boyfriends are erect yeah what yeah you want to find it it was insane I was like I was enjoying up until then I'm like oh haha and then I was like what?

55:28I swear it was really yucky like talking about a child and saying erect like seriously are people fucking okay? Hollywood is never beating the pedophilia allegations like I'm sorry every time they like start to call Demna like I'm sorry it's weird

55:38Claudia Oshry:but they are pedophiles I know in Hollywood I know so it's like they can't beat them because they are them and like where's like the you know that like mother's group like Mothers Against Truck Driving and there's like a mother's group for TV yeah they need to go after that like Colin Jost I'm sorry you're disgusting for that. Yeah. And I was just starting to really like Colin Jost. He was on New Heights like being hilarious. Yucky. Like seriously yucky. Stop making jokes about kids. Like seriously. If you can't be funny without talking about pedophilia like maybe you're just not funny.

56:04Kylie Jenner:Yeah. Unless you want to make jokes about the pedophiles and make fun of the pedophiles. I said pedophilia. Yeah. Not pedophiles. Yeah. Yeah. That is Michael Jackson. Like I said I'm always down for a Michael Jackson joke. Okay. Well Gucci show and everyone was there but now like Demna is Gucci. I know. So I was like, why is everyone going Gucci? And it's because of Balenciaga. And you know what? Like maybe everyone will stop. Because, well, I don't think it was Demna who was like giving the weird child vibes. I think he's amongst. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was like, yeah, maybe.

56:33Okay. So. And I think then people started looking into Demna and they didn't like what they saw. Oh, oh, oh. So then like Demna went to Gucci and now everyone's at Gucci and that's not good. Yeah. Everyone was at Gucci. Tom Brady, Alex Earl, Kim Kardashian. Paris Hilton. She walks in the show. And like Alex Earl gets invited to a Gucci event. Like I don't expect her to not go. like and she's just like operating at such an A-list level.

56:51Claudia Oshry:One thing about me, I never blame Alex Earl for anything. No, but there are some people who have choices. Yeah. And they choose to do this. Yeah. And also like randomly like Tom Brady, like you aren't a model. You aren't a fashionista. I saw him like mean mugging. He's like, he's seriously a stereotype. He's Ben Stiller. He looks like Zoolander. Yeah. He's like this. He's literally doing, he watched the Zoolander. Like he was giving Blue Steel in like the Zoolander leather outfit. He looked like so silly. He seriously has like no shame. Yeah. I'm such a Tom Brady hater. Yeah. Paris Hilton also walked the show.

57:18In a wig. In a Amanda Batula wig. Yeah. Yeah. She also has choices, you know. Yeah, absolutely. Kim has choices. She has less choices than others, but she has choices. And Tom Brady has choices. Yeah. It was in the middle of Times Square. And these are the choices that they made. Yeah. And it's crazy because, like, Alex Earl, and I'm sure she just, like, wears what she's told to wear, but she was, like, literally wearing, like, an actual, like, Fashion Nova gray bodycon dress. Like, that's Gucci. You know that dress is, like, probably$2 ,000. But she doesn't have choices. No, no. I don't. I never blame Alex Earl.

57:47You guys know that. Like she's just like happy to be there. Yeah. Like honored. Honored. Yeah. And then like she'll get to a place where like she has choices and I know she'll make the right ones. I know her dad will make the right one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But until she has to do these things to get to the place of choices. Of course. Of course. So yeah. Gucci. Gucci. Our fifth and final story. A little baby mama drama. Oh my God. And Pete Davidson are like really, you know, getting messy.

58:15Claudia Oshry:So Elsie Hewitt called out Pete Davidson after their split as a source refutes her claim that he doesn't support their daughter. So Elsie Hewitt started responding to comments. She made a video on TikTok just talking about how she's like doing this alone and she still has to work. And she's just like sort of like rattling off sort of motherhood musings, which would have been relatable. But people are also like, your baby daddy is a famous person. So like, why are you struggling? And so the comments were like, I hope this doesn't mean you're doing this alone financially, too. And she was like, yep.

58:42she's since deleted the comments confirming that like pete is a deadbeat financially emotionally

58:47Jackie Oshry:pete also then via a rep said that this is not true he's covering actually all of the baby's costs yeah so i don't know what to believe so i'm gonna give two responses okay here's my response if pete davidson is a deadbeat you're literally disgusting and i hate you shame on you and um i think you're one of the lowest levels of human beings and like you should actually change everything about yourself i think you're disgusting i just want to say i just because I have like a hard time believing when people can be so horrible, especially if they've

59:15Claudia Oshry:not like shown evil, if they've not shown like evil, horrible behavior. I don't think he's going to be like dad of the year, partner of the year. Sure. But like sending a Zelle to go like to go from being excited about the birth of your child to like leaving the mother of your child and your child financially stranded when you are of means like I can't believe I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not evil, that you're not that horrible. OK, so I actually don't believe that it's that. Yeah, I don't believe it. oh okay like I'm in disbelief so you're doubting postpartum women no I think it's like you know a difference of language and stuff she plus she deleted the comment yeah right she also could be like refusing to accept his help because she's so mad at right for whatever he did and so she's like I'm gonna do this by herself like by myself fuck you I don't want anything from you I can do it by myself I do want to say like I whether or not this is true I blame Pete Davidson wholeheartedly for everything like this is a postpartum woman like just do whatever she says like seriously like give her money don't give her money like do whatever she fucking says and the disillusion of their relationship like i'm sorry it is disgraceful when you have a four-month-old and i'm just um like i i i i'm mad at both of them but like i can't be mad at her she's postpartum like do whatever you want yeah i saw a clip especially because i don't know what happened between me neither what what he was doing like what what maybe he was around and wanting to be around but it was not a good not a good scene you know i saw a clip of them having said that like on their first date like she said like you're gonna be the father of my children i hate like when people like people in hollywood it's just like they're just not real people like i'm saying that we should talk about them as much as we do like we should really change subjects like no they're insane

1:00:48Kylie Jenner:but like so that part came true yeah but so did they also like not what are you not saying no like i just don't understand and also is there gonna be more kids like oh god no please like i don't know i don't i just don't understand this situation because they seem so happy and they were excited about this and excited about and i was excited and even though it's hard you know it's very hard maybe it's just like so much harder than they thought it would be like i don't know what but then it's harder to do it alone of course and i don't know what could have happened between two people famous or not like who were like in love up until recently what could have happened to make you separate when you have a four-month-old like but then also and i give a

1:01:26Claudia Oshry:postpartum new mama great but then she posted on her instagram story yeah this was weird trying to find a nanny mother's helper assistant type on her Instagram through Instagram wants people to reach out to her email address to apply to be her nanny. And I just want to be clear that like a nanny, a mother's helper and assistant are three different people. Like you can't have an assistant who's also a nanny. Like that's not the same. No. Are you looking for a work assistant? Are you looking for someone to help with the baby or to help you? You're looking for a nurse. Yeah. Like what are you looking for?

1:01:54Yeah. Those are two separate things. Yeah. And you're not going to find it on Instagram. No posting to for that on Instagram is the worst with your child. You're gonna let a stranger from the internet come help with like your famous baby. Right. Right. Is the worst idea I've ever heard ever. Like and this is where like where you're a celebrity. You have access to these like staffing companies and agencies who can help you find a nanny. So like I don't know you're it is such a what she is accusing him of is like so evil that yes it's not congress he's not the best guy ever but he's as far as we know not an evil person so to leave your baby mama when you are yeah like you said of me and high and dry with no money no help no food thank god i you know she has a bobby partnership hopefully they're setting her formula you know like and also like who was she before this does she she's nepo dating before this she did like seth brogan or something she dated someone like like rando yeah someone big and what was she how How did she meet these guys?

1:02:50Because was she famous? I think she's like a Nepo. She dated Jason Stakas and Betty Blanco and Ryan Phillippe. Okay. And let me just Google Elsie Hewitt job. Like what does she do? I feel like she might be a model or an actress or an influencer. She's a model actress. She's a model actress and social media influencer. She's well known for her roles in industry and Dave. All right. So by the way.

1:03:16Kylie Jenner:And those are major campaigns with guests. That's what she's known for. I think she was discovered in like a guest campaign. Okay, cool. And then she was named Playboy's Miss June in 2017. Wait, here's a little video coming up. Who is Halsey Hewitt? Three things to know. One, she shares a daughter with ex-boyfriend Pete Davidson. Okay. Next. It's filled with like quotes. Hold on. It's a little package People Magazine made. She's a model and actress. She moved to LA at age 10. And she modeled for brands like Guess and was Playboy. So yes, exactly like you said. Thank you so much. Yes, they obviously used Google Gemini for their video.

1:03:53Kylie Jenner:Her first role was in a 2018 series called Turnt. Also, number three, she's a foodie. Elsie Eats? Yeah. Yeah. She likes food. That's unique. Yeah. A lot of her content link is giving manic, but postpartum is sort of a manic time. And I just. And the internet responds to mania. Yeah, they do. And they encourage it too. They enable it. So I just really hope she's doing well. And I hope she finds a nanny. or a nurse or whatever. And I hope Pete comes through with like a bag of money. Yeah. Just like give money. Give money. Like if you can't give your heart, you can't give your time, you can't give your energy, you bitch.

1:04:25Just give money. I just want to say. Zell. Back to Kelsey. Back to Kelsey

1:04:29Kylie Jenner:because when she was saying. From Real Housewives of Rhode Island. I'm like her name is Elsie. Real Housewives of Rhode Island. How her man is like paying for her like rent and like helping her with like utilities. Even though she's like broken up with him and moved out and like. Two years ago. Tarnishing him on television and like has a new boyfriend. She said on Watched Up and Sive he loves the show so much and he wishes that he obviously Andy said he gave the production zero approvals on using his photo his name anything but Kelsey says he loves the show now. That's so cute. I just want to say

1:04:57Claudia Oshry:like she's really got it made in the shade for herself like and the fact that she's got this guy like paying her bills after they broke up and she said like if we were married 10 years I'd have something so like why not get a little something even though I've just been the girlfriend and the fact that like she's literally in the show having a boyfriend like while she has a boyfriend and she's like considering her options like under his roof. I just. But she's not and she never was. Like this is all fake and she's a concubine. Because I would be like worried you'd get kicked out of the house for like being with another guy at the polo match.

1:05:25Yeah. But she really, she must be so fabulous that her boy, her OG boyfriend like doesn't, you know,

1:05:32Kylie Jenner:he just wants to help her and support her and love her. Is concubine like a slur? I think it's like. Yeah, no, I know what it means. like I think it's like the word whore yeah okay I mean if the shoe fits like and shout out to Margaret Justice for teaching me that word who did she call a concubine Jennifer Aiden oh yeah but that was a stretch Jennifer Aiden has six children with the man so like oh right she doesn't work like that's fine I kind of feel like Kelsey's sort of textbook yeah no sure maybe she's a concubine I just feel like that word and you say she doesn't have a job that's the definition of that's her job yeah that's her job but I also want to know like what was she doing in that house for eight years without a job.

1:06:12she was really technically in it for four years because the other like 50 % of the time. No, no, the 50, but she was still in the house. Yeah, but she was in the house with the owner of the house and like living a full life.

1:06:21Claudia Oshry:I understand. No, but the 50 % when he was there, I understand what you're doing. Yeah. You are working for your man. So the cumulative four years, like what was she doing living there alone? Yeah. What, how was she filling her days? I mean, it definitely gets lonely in the palace. Like she wasn't on the show. She wasn't running a business. She wasn't doing anything. Like what was she doing? And that was probably her biggest mistake was like not using those eight years to like build something that she could walk away with. Yeah. Like you literally had eight years. I hope she was like squirreling away a little money.

1:06:45I don't get the sense that she was. You don't think she was squirreling? No. I hope that she was. But it seems like money just, you know, people just give her money. Yeah. She's just one of those girls like where it appears like I wish I had a dollar.

1:06:57Kylie Jenner:Because I was worried, of course, like you have to leave the mansion. I'm going to have to get like a condo or something, a job. And she's just like he's giving her money. Yeah. And I just think it takes a special kind of woman to get that. You're so wrapped up in the pretty privilege. Like, it's insane. No, I think she's one of the best to do it. To be beautiful? Yeah, like, some people, like, have a rich boyfriend, sugar daddy, and the minute they disrespect them, they're out on their ear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, literally, some people, their husbands, like Lisa Hochstein, she gets thrown out.

1:07:26She has two kids with the man.

1:07:28Kylie Jenner:Alicia's not even on the deed for her house. That's really crazy. She has, like, and so Kelsey really got herself set up nicely. Yes, yes. So credit to her. You're so toxic. Why? You just are. Why? I hate disagreeing with you. Like, I just hate it. No, and your criticisms are very valid. I know. But I want to focus on the positive. I don't want to fight. No, I don't want to fight either, but I can't believe you like Rosie. No, I know because it's incongruous with me. She's so crazy weird. But I just feel like that's how right she is. And that's how mean everyone's being to her. Okay, even though I feel like she's not wrong in this situation, I don't think she's so right.

1:08:08Kylie Jenner:I think she's. Because also, like, what if she is not being, hasn't been genuine this entire time? Well, I need that to be proven. I need her, like, I need the blueprints to the house. Like, I need someone to be, like, showing me. Like, you can't just say she's lying about adding 5 ,000 square feet. And then Kelsey was like, it's less than that. It's like, okay, you don't even have a house. Yeah, but, like, if she's going around saying, like, 8 ,000 square feet, 8 ,000 square feet, and it's not, like. Well, what is it? Yeah. And now, by the way, I hope she's updated her plans because it has to be.

1:08:32Of course. Like seriously, just put like a garage in. Yeah, right. Give me shit. Get it done. A big porch. Yeah. This is giving Real Houses of Atlanta when they were all buying new houses and like lying to each other about like Moor Manor, Chateau Charest, about like they didn't have baseboards. Like that was seriously so funny. This is what it's giving. That's funny. Yeah. Well, there you go. That's your show. That's your show. I think it was a good one. And the place really does look great. It always does. So thank you so much for listening to the Toast on the Monday morning show. We deliver the Fast Side Story.

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