Raging Against Love Island with Juliette Porter: Monday, June 23rd, 2025

33:39And the cousin, Lexi. Lexi. Lexi lives down the street, by the way. Like, her house is right over there, her apartment. That is so funny. No, I'm totally still friends with them. I just don't see them. It's different. It's like, whatever, losers. You're not to me. Yeah, no, you're not with my new influencer friends. Yeah, sorry. Bye-bye. Our next story is some beauty news. And usually a haircut doesn't make news. However, Sofia Richie has debuted her dramatic French bob hair transformation. for summer and I think everyone's getting ideas. She's just perfect. She can do no wrong. No, she is so perfect.

34:13I love this haircut in general. I'm always pro people cutting their hair. I think it always just like elevates them and like just enters a new era of your life. And she's already in that era. So like now the hair matches. It fits her so well. And I know like people out there are now feeling tempted to do it. And I know like other people are cautioning you not to do it, but I'm always going to say like, do it. I want to see more girls with this haircut. I think it works for her because she's just so elegant. She gives Princess Diana just this rich mom, European summer. She's just perfect. Yeah, she really is.

34:47She's gorgeous and it really works for her. I think it will look good on a lot of girls. I just do think it's kind of mature. I mean, how old is she? It is mature. She's young. She's younger than me, which makes me feel a certain type of way. She's 26. Okay, so younger than me. No, but she's just, it works so well. I do think the girlies should do it. I just, I caution you. Once you do it, it takes a minute to go back. Yes, and also if you want to walk the walk, you have to talk the talk too. It's a whole vibe. You have to take on the whole person. You can't just be out there with the booty cheeks hanging out of your shorts.

35:21You have to constantly have your hair done too and wear the elegant outfit. Yeah, no, you have to go all the way. It's not going to look good. Right, you need to wear something like this. You look so cute. I could do a bob. I will tell you to do it. I won't though because I just feel like I really do believe that I need it's like more like a marriage haircut. Yeah. No. Is that fair to say? It is. I used to have a bob and I think it really ushered me into a more mature era of my life and like forced me to like I don't know. It just like changed my vibe in a good way. And then like it's been growing out.

35:53And I always say like when I'm like in full like mom like done having like I wouldn't want to be like pregnant with a bob and just like have a lot going on. But like, you know, in the next phase of my life, like I'm going back. like PTA mom with a bob. Love that for you. Like that's where you'll catch me but it will be a while. You're not a PTA mom yet? No no no. How old is your oldest? Three. Oh you like I'm just a toddler mom. I need my hair. Yeah you need your hair still. You're not right. I feel like yeah once you are like really working and picking up like five kids a day. Yeah and like soccer and like all this.

36:22Yeah that's the vibe. But like right now I need to be able to put my hair in a messy bun. Like I'm in the messy bun phase. I love that for you. Yeah. I see it. So if you're thinking came out cutting your hair this is your sign to do it okay juliette's gonna say no and i'm gonna say yes but if you do it like make sure you go to a great hairdresser that's true yeah you need like those like flowy layers i mean who did her hair oh i think it was chris mcmillan of course yes and jake shane's like always in the background yes jake how did they they've been friends like he used to work for her husband like in his corporate role like before he like when he started like his social media he was or her assistant like he works for one of them so that's affair wasn't just like oh you're famous i'm famous no like he was friends with them before he got famous i love that i love that type of story because it doesn't feel like someone's latching on to the other no they're like real friends love that i love that too yeah that's cute um also you know i'm gonna try and convince my sister margo to do this haircut she's my guinea pig yeah i love margo how's she doing she's good she's so cute you and her she's in new york you and her should go on summer house together we oh my god she should so do summer house i mean i think when she was on the toast we were talking about it people always say that about her she would never do it she's not cut out for reality tv you know summer house looks easy yeah my show was way harder than it seems like summer house was people were getting like pregnant i was getting in fights summer house is tame it's like page yelling at kyle over an investment of freaking craig and it feels like it's detached from their real lives like they're you go out there and like you do stuff for the summer house and then like you come back and have their actual life your 100 was your actual life your actual boyfriends and friendships but I think it really really has to do with the age too they're able to separate and be mature about certain things and put on a show I think yeah whereas like I was just so out of touch with that world because I was so young in a small town that it just everything blended together to just make this like perfect mixture of chaos yeah and like not know how to like compartmentalize like 100 I was like I'm I would make up a lie and I would believe it.

38:29Yeah. I'm going to be this way like on the show. And then like I know what I. But like you were just so in it. Which makes for good TV. But then you're seeing people like ripped apart. And it's like. Well that's not good for you. Which is what we're seeing with these shows. Where these people. Like Love Island. Again it's like. They. I don't think they're able to. Differentiate. What is like for TV. And what's not. Because especially they're in like this bubble. Yeah. And I think also like the game element of the show. Has really been played up this season. Less so than the love. love and so you really need to be like hard-headed like where you have to where you need to fall in love to be on the show right but you need to also be able to like separate like I don't care about these people I don't care about these friends because like you're voting them off every other day impossible task yeah it's like traitors these days it really is it looks so hard to be on love island like I couldn't do it but I do think for them at least the payoff is is serious because they'll come off the show and they'll have a completely new life look at Jalen I'm so happy for Jalen.

39:24Oh my god I was saying last night I was talking to Claudia I was like I need someone to get a word to the Islanders about like the fact that Jalen has 1.4 million so that's my favorite thing about and it's the worst thing about Love Island they have no idea that they are a trending audio the Mama Sita thing they have no Huda has no idea she thinks apparently America does love her but like she thinks they just have no concept of what's going on out here. No but like I think the biggest shock to them of everything that's happened while they were in the villa is that Jalen two-day stint Jalen has 1.4 million followers insane I'm so happy for him I hope that it lasts I hope the only problem I see with this is that he doesn't actually know how to make like content yet so I hope that he does I hope he hires someone or just like yeah put really puts in the work there so that people stick with him and he especially if he wants to be a travel influencer I want to see that like let's make that but we You have to give him grace as he navigates this new chapter.

40:21Of course. I'm so – and the picture with his grandma. No, I'm obsessed. But yeah, the one he needs to hire someone so that like he can just stay being Jalen. Wait, we need to send him like PR boxes. You need to send him JMP swim. I should. Do you do men's? I do. I want to have like everyone sending him everything. I want stuff for his grandma. Do they wear your suits on the show at all? Like to have any of the girls wear them? I did not on Love Island, but Temptation Island. I gifted everybody, pretty much everybody in like the first episode wore my suits. Oh, cute. Which that show ended up being, like I haven't seen it, but it was crazy.

40:53Tyler C was just saying that he watched it. Apparently it's really good, but it's, I have a hard time watching like really, really raunchy things. Love Island is painful in that sense. Only during the challenges, because that's the only time they like get sexy. And the rest of the time they're like nuns in there. Exactly. No, they won't kiss their like actual match and then they have to all make out. No, and like when someone likes someone, they're like a kiss on the cheek. And then they go into the challenge where they're seriously like someone is about to give like a blowjob at a challenge. We were saying, is that okay?

41:26Because I know for a fact like, well, I don't know about Love Island, but I know on other things that I've done, you, there's like HIPAA. So they can't make you take a test for any of these like STDs. Okay. But I imagine I would be worried like I don't have oral herpes. I'm lucky. A lot of people have it. I've never had a cold sore. I have no plans on getting one. I don't want to be making out with 12 people. I assume that they've all been tested, even though for the past few weeks, it does look like a cold sore is being passed around the villa. It's bad. They might. They have to be. But then what?

42:00Then what do you do? She can't kiss. She has to sit out the challenge. She can't be on the show. If you have. If you have an active herpes. I mean, I agree, but I don't think that's how it works. I'm sorry. that I agree and then you do these challenges where literally like at every stop you have to kiss the person like you can't force people I don't want to kiss a lot like I'm not really attracted to anyone on live island what would I do about that no it's so weird and then they think that like in these challenges like we're gonna see if there's chemistry like while I make out with four different people and act like it's the best thing I've ever done and you're just all slopping no it's it's actually it's on it's not watchable that milk challenge was disgusting was So disgusting.

42:42Like, I get queasy easily. I'm a pregnant woman. Like, this isn't offensive to me. Yeah. I feel bad for Paige. I can't imagine. Because I think a lot of people don't realize, like, these shows take hours to film. Yeah. Like, they're sitting there and there's no music. They're not really drinking. They're just sitting there all day long. They get one glass of wine at night in those cups. I see. I need at least three. Yeah. Because I get so bored. and if you're just there's no phones there's no tv you're just sitting there talking to each other every single day all night all day I would be just so bored yeah okay we're gonna get to Love Island we are I promise we're almost there our next story is actually some really sweet love news Billy Ray Cyrus and his girlfriend Elizabeth Hurley have a romantic date night in London to support Miley's new film so Miley's new film is her album film something beautiful don't get excited The last song sequel is not out, but I wish Billy Ray and Elizabeth Hurley went out to support Miley's new film, Something Beautiful.

43:46They stepped out together like seriously looking like a legit couple. Now he looks scary as ever, but that's not stopping her from like she's being like Queenie Elizabeth Hurley. Why do I think he looks kind of good? Why do you think he looks kind of good? Did he lose weight? He looks really scary. He's giving Jesus kind of. His shirt is the scariest part, I would say. That's a horrible outfit. Who is she? Elizabeth Hurley, British actress. I don't know her. You definitely do. She's like a class. Name a movie. I mean, Bedazzled with Brendan Fraser comes to mind, but I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't seen that.

44:22I haven't. I've seen Georgia the Jungle. Elizabeth, did you ever watch the Royals on E! News? I didn't. She's from Austin Powers. Okay. She's from Gossip Girl. She was hooking up with Nate. I have I seem to have missed everything she's been in oh my god you're missing out well so we're happy for them I thought Miley didn't like this no Miley likes this and I do think she's been like yeah I think she's reconciling with her dad and I think Lizzie has been a force for good in his life because like he's slowly getting back together with his family like I I think he was spiraling and she sort of stabilized him and like made him more palatable to the rest of his family so yeah It's like a really good thing why Elizabeth Hurley is like attracted to him in this era of his life.

45:09I will never know. Yeah. Dating a man coming from like a broken family must be like a little tough, especially Miley Cyrus's father. Yeah. No. And like there's so many different aspects. There's like 10 kids. There's like three, right? Four. Five? Five. I think there's five. Trace, the brother, is like going off on Instagram. He's going off. Yeah. I can't even go there. But like then Miley and Noah have their own beef. Then the mom. And then. they do yeah because um but i love noah there was like another weird drama where the mom got remarried okay and like noah didn't like this right no apparently like dated that oh my god well fair but that's really fair if she i don't know my mother the thing is everyone sided with tish so like i don't feel like that's exactly what happened given what we do know why did they side with Tish because Miley did?

46:00No, I think because Tish probably didn't do it. I think Noah probably did more wrong than Tish. I don't know if Noah actually dated. We need to get to the bottom of this. That's really weird. I don't like to talk about it because... You don't know for sure what happened. No, because it's disturbing. I just want to think about the Cyrus family being happy and just push that away. Miley seems really good to me. She seems stable. I love her. I've never loved her more. I agree. I've never loved her more. She just seems so confident and secure in herself. And I love her. I just, I want the best for her.

46:34I completely agree. And so ultimately, Elizabeth Hurley being with her father is best for Miley. Because he's like coming to the premiere. He's happy. And he's supporting her. And I think she's bringing up like the average of the family. Yeah. Even though it's obviously very high. I think it's good. I think it's good. It's shocking. It's shocking. But you know what? Everybody has a crazy family. maybe not that crazy but we prevail yeah our next story is um a bit of great music news as well because tom sandoval has auditioned for america's got talent with his band tom sandoval and the most extras so tom's the name yeah that's the name of his band tom and that's a very good name for that yeah no he nailed it with the extra for sure and they were sort of like the butt of the joke on the last few seasons of vanderpump rules he spent all his money like paying his band members and getting studio time and then he went out on tour right as scandafall happened and i think the only people who were really going to his show were like going there to heckle him which is also like not great like stay like stay home i kind of feel for him in that sense i'm starting to like feel for him a little bit just because like so much time has passed right i guess someone at america's got talent has a sense of humor because they invited him in his band to audition and they're a cover band like they're really like a almost like a wedding cover band like whatever yeah I don't watch a lot of America's Got Talent so I don't know if a lot of like mid-level talented people audition just like for shits and giggles um I think this is a rare occurrence it is so odd yeah that they this is for use is what I think when I watch clips of America's Got Talent it's like some of the most talented people and random from like a different part of the world or like a small and it's like a really cool talent someone's singing someone else's song like with a 15 piece band that's my thing about the band there's like 10 of them no and he pays them all that's really sweet honestly if like they're not making any money but he wants to keep the band together sweeps out of his vanderpump money paying them is like really sad no it's it's sad and at this point like i hope that they have i'm like i'm happy for them that they went on america's got talent i don't even want to like talk shit because it's like no i'm happy for them i agree i think like i don't like him every time he opens his mouth i'm upset no but i do feel like we need to move on and ariana i love her i'm so team ariana like she's so moved on she's she's making way more money than him she won by a landslide let's give him like a little a little less hate i guess I think people liked him from Traitors.

49:09He was on last season. Did you watch? I watched a little bit of it. I was there for Dylan Efron and Sierra. I wasn't there for it. Didn't he get out pretty early, though? I didn't watch. And he was on Special Forces with Tyler C. That's right. Would you ever do Special Forces? You know, I feel like I would really fail. Based on what Tyler said, and I feel like it was hard for him, and he's like a grown, big, strong man, I don't think you should do it. I like to think that I can do stuff like that. You're very fit. I am, but I'm not. You were doing Barry's. You're the queen of bar. I know, but I think that I, like, crumble under pressure.

49:43Are you mentally tough? I am, but then, like, I don't know. I just, every time I think I'm going to win in, like, these types of, like, games or events, I don't win. Interesting. I have, like, I did a show similar to this, and I didn't win anything. The one that you did? Yes. With, like, challenges and stuff? Yes, didn't win a single one. Interesting. I think when the moment comes and you're like in that position, like things get a lot harder than you think they would be. Yeah, no, he said it was like so extreme. It wasn't like fake Hollywood. What were some of his challenges that he had to do?

50:16Oh, I don't know. He was talking about being in some like icy thing. Why would I want to? It depends on how much money I'm getting. And I do want to see if I could do it. Yeah. Like the mental, like how you would come out the other side. Yeah, like would that make me stronger? like being able to say that I accomplished some of that stuff would be awesome but like why would I put myself through a like a cold plunge or like go to like live in the ice like why would I do that I don't know that's what I was saying to him I was like when you're in those things are you like regretting signing up for the show because I would seriously run I mean part of me like always wanted to be in the army like I have like all these like random jobs I like wish I did just to see if I could okay so then you should go on special forces just to scratch that itch just you're right it's just like one of those little things about me i'm like what if i was a pilot like i think about that stuff a lot you should do it it could also be a good place to meet someone i don't i know you don't want to date a reality star but i think like the guys who would go on special forces would be like strong they have like real army people like i would date an officer i ship yeah i like put me in my place you guys if any special forces casting directors are watching even though i'm sure you have teams of people who could just, you know, sign you up.

51:25I love this. I love this. Like, this could be a thing. I want to try to do traitors, though. Like, that I find more interesting and fun. Yeah, and like, easy compared to Special Forces. Yeah, but I love a mind game. Like, that sounds like a fun game. Yeah. But I don't think I could lie. I'm a really bad liar. Did you ever think about doing, because Siesta Key was on MTV, did you ever think about doing the challenge or like, X on the beach? They never asked me, which I thought was strange. That's strange. Yeah. Did anyone from Siesta Key do those shows? No. I feel like they, I talked a lot of shit about MTV though.

51:58I don't know if that has to do with it. I don't know. I feel like everybody who's on MTV like talks shit about it. I mean it's a dying network. Well damn. I feel like that's just a part of me. Like Kristen also like talks a lot of shit. I mean one example was like they would never invite us to the VMAs. Which is just like that should be our one reward. Obviously we got paid but like that was just something and I'm like so you're not even paid. Like you won't even bring, you won't even invite us. Why? Because they had no money. But I feel like I've saw you at the BMAs. What? I feel like I've seen you at the BMAs.

52:31They had to like, I went the first, okay it was the first year, 2017 before our show even aired. They flew us all out. It was this whole thing and then I think the merger happened with Viacom who owns MTV and I just think, I don't know, it must have been a money thing. It was never like personal but yeah But the other shows would go. Then they would invite like yes they would invite people from other networks like Vanderpump would go or like it was just odd to me that is and that always rubbed me wrong that's surprising yeah we got to get you to the VMAs I can't help you with that it's okay I don't need to go you're over I want to go to like the Oscars or something take me somewhere really cool I want to wear like a nice fancy dress what about like do you ever do people's choice no you weren't like people's choice reality star I don't think we were quite big enough.

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58:12Oh, okay. So me. Thanks, The Sun, for voicing how I feel. Yes, for sure. Wow, that was so accurate. So accurate. For sure, the votes were not accurate. Like, I think some people who are most popular got to stay. Of course, why are they going to kick off the most popular? But for example, Huda is not. That can't have been right. But the more I think about it, like the more producers are not letting Huda go. Like, she has saved their season. This season has really been god awful, except for the Huda and Jeremiah saga, which was just like so shocking and such a whirlwind that it really captivated people.

58:48But like as far as connections or like really meeting great people from the show, it's not amazing. She's kind of like saved their season. And I don't think they're going to send her home. This would have been her third time in the bottom three. And I think the girls would have actually they don't know how to vote. So they probably wouldn't have voted her home because that would have been the correct choice. But I don't think producers were going to leave it up to chance because they need her. Plus, knowing that the next day is Casa Amor, she will be she will thrive in Casa Amor. We'll get to see her from like you're right from the zero to like, you know, she gets five guys to choose between like that will be entertaining television and they were not going to give that up so I can almost like understand why they saved her but I know like for sure the votes were rigged in that sense the way that these islanders are voting for the people that they have to dump from the island like they need to lose their voting rights because they what are they doing I have a lot of thoughts on this the guys are jealous of Jeremiah oh for sure And I think Ace is a snake.

59:46I was anti-Ace because I just think he's, like, faking things with Shelly. And I'm, like, so bored by them. Yeah. It's supposed to be – I think they wanted to create this, like, story of adversity where, like, they didn't – we weren't with each other. And now they're together and they think they're going to go all the way and win. But I do think, like, some of the fans are falling for it, which if that's the case and, like, those are your winners, great. Like, but I just think – Anybody on TikTok knows that they've, like, known each other. Right. That's, like, the thing coming out about them. And they said that they knew each other.

1:00:13they met outside of club and now there's like other stuff that he was she was like his valentine and they like came on the show to win and they've just been sort of even if that would honestly how would the producers not know that i don't know because out of every person that they cast they happen to cast two people that know each other that's like well i feel i really feel like they casted a lot from instagram like more than ever like i feel like everybody who's on the show already has a platform and like they're all content creators which is fine but i think when you're all content creators like you know your fellow that's true people are like it's los angeles or wherever they're from if you see them on like the explore page whatever like so i don't think that's so so crazy plus love island is a huge cast probably by the end of the show they go through like 30 or 40 people like yeah of 23 year olds with semi-decent instagram followings who are incredibly beautiful like true it's possible um i just think ace and shelly are so boring and i'm not seeing like any chemistry between them so whatever show they think they're putting on is like not happening for me and I was like really against him except when he was the one like really bringing Huda and Jeremiah to task and like not letting it go and I was like okay I'm with you but now he it's a thing he has against Jeremiah because Jeremiah is doing exactly what he should be doing thank you like he got out of his relationship with Huda which everyone said was toxic it was too much too soon and it got like so dramatic and nasty and he made the mature choice and he chose Iris even though he's like not into her romantically he just wants to close the chapter on huda right did the right thing there then he starts earnestly trying to find connections his dream girl walks into the villa thankfully she likes him too and they're and like the way he's talking to her and going about and moving is exactly what he's supposed to do it's like what a guy who's looking for a relationship should do he seems like he doesn't have good friendships with the other guys except for austin and that's why i think they voted him off but also like him kissing andrina in front of everyone like put a target on his back because if they didn't they all want to hook up with her.

1:02:04So if they get rid of him, they have a chance. Like Nick, a hundred percent. Nick, I got that, but like, Ace, like they're not all going to get her. No, but they, they're jealous of him. And if he's there, they're locked in. But if he's not there, then she has to talk to the rest of them. That's exactly what I was thinking. They're jealous. Yeah. So I think that the boys voted for him to go because they're incredibly stupid. And they, and like, you just broke up two real couples. And this is love islands. Isn't traitors. Like if they're not here to form relationships, if they're going to be penalized for that then like what's the point we need to go back to like regular eliminations we haven't had like just a a dumping like a normal one since bella where people like you get dumped if nobody likes you like that don't have a couple it should have been amaya and maybe pepe austin austin austin amaya austin and amaya were the correct choice if anything if the producers really want the villagers the villas to dump the cat the girls should have voted which boy should go home and the boy should have voted which girl should go right because the girls would have been like none of us like Austin and he's been here a while and none of us are going to and it's time for him to go so right and like Hannah would have stuck up for Pepe I don't know so true they might have voted Jeremiah off because I do think Huda was the leading voice in the girls discussion but they would have had a chance and then the boys would have of course sent Amaya home because they know that Iris and Hannah are into other guys and they all have spoken to Amaya and none of us like her in that way none of us are going to so like it's her time to go that because Austin and Maya are the ones that who should have gotten home sorry yeah and now we're going into Casa Amor and we don't have that many solid couples so why is this interesting to me to watch more exactly people Jeremiah would have been first of all he's the most beautiful by a landslide I liked watching my screen I liked what was forming between him and Andrea Andrina I liked that I feel like there would have been a girl in there for sure.

1:03:57I bet several girls would have went after him. I feel like Ace too. Like, I just feel like, I don't know why. I also think it's kind of messed up that they let America vote. They tell these people that America doesn't like them essentially. I feel like that's so mean. Well, they do and they don't. They leave it like ambiguous because like the girls in the bottom three, like I feel like Iris shouldn't have a chip on her shoulder because she just got there. We haven't gotten a chance to get to know her. America like threw her into the lion's den by putting her in a relationship with Jeremiah. And it really would not have been fair if she got sent home because that way she never had a shot.

1:04:34But look at Jalen never had a shot and got sent home. So I wouldn't put it past them. I was honestly really glad that it wasn't Iris because now she has something going with TJ. I think they're so cute. And she deserves like she's put she's handled herself correctly in every situation. Like she deserves to have a good time now. So thankfully, I think I would have been most upset if Iris went home. Like I'm really rooting for her. And Hannah, I really, I like Hannah, but ever since what she did to my Charlie, like. I don't like Hannah. I turned on her. Like, I really loved Hannah and Charlie. And I could have been open.

1:05:03I like Charlie, yeah. She moved too quickly with Pepe. Weren't they? Wasn't there a little. The spit start. Oh, yeah. The spit start heard around the world. Could never be me. No, that was so crazy. Especially when the night before she's crying about Charlie, like wailing. and so I think I would have been fine with Hannah and Pepe and I actually really like Pepe. Yeah. If he likes her, like I think that like speaks to her character even more. She just got like too into him too fast and it just negated everything she had with Charlie. I'm sorry when you diss Charlie, you diss me because I'm not over him.

1:05:40I just am still like I'm stunned that they sent Jeremiah home. I really feel like we need like there needs to be like you get to bring someone back. So that's what people are saying. But honestly, everything people are saying has been wrong. They thought we were voting for most popular boy and girl to send them on a date. And you know that the fans have this thing for Nick and Alandria. Oh, really? There are all these fan edits that they think that Nick is really in love with Alandria. But I also think for the fans, Nick is their favorite guy. I actually like Nick. He's really growing on me. He's really a good guy.

1:06:11Except he should be more all in on Ciara than he is. And stop chasing. It's time to lock in. I agree. But it's also early. and they're about to go through Casa Moore. How is it early if it's Casa Moore? Casa Moore is like... Well, I don't know if he wants to set expectations if he's about to go in there. Right, and I understand they don't know they're going into Casa Moore. Oh, they don't? I understand. I thought everyone knew that. Isn't that just like a thing? No, but they don't know that it's like tomorrow, right? Tonight, right? Yeah, tonight. I feel like tonight they're going to hear they're going and then it's going to end.

1:06:40And then like in two nights we'll be able to see what happens. But that's my only qualm with Nick. But like, whatever. They're young, like take your time. um he's obviously like they're all blinded by this girl which is just like so funny they're all like they would literally all drop their girls which is just i it's like you have to have such a strong sense of self to be on this show yeah you really do or just like be very like hard but also soft because you have to fall in love or else you won't stay on the show but then you need to be able to be like okay you're really having to play two games here it's the game of love and then the game of like get people to like me enough so that I don't leave I have to get America to like me enough and the people in the house to apparently like me enough yeah but then there's Huda who I don't know who will and I agree maybe the producers did save her I think the producer saved her 100 % for the sake of entertainment and I can be okay with that but I do think she was leading this discussion amongst the girls and they didn't show us the deliberation I was gonna say are you sure because of course she was the one to send Hannah home because she wants to move in on Pepe after things didn't work out with TJ.

1:07:42It's so clear when like she's, I don't, okay. What's, what are they saying online? Ace is the leader of the guys and Huda must be the leader of the girls, which I would not, I just know I would not be friends with Huda. No, I, I think that Huda like thinks she's leader of the girls. And I think she's like, none of the other girls want to take up the mantle. Cause to me, like Alondra should be the leader of the girls. She's very rational, but she's nice. Yes. Yeah. But it does like make me annoyed with a lot. Like, I feel like in those discussions, I feel like Sierra is very much like a free spirit like she's not she doesn't want a leadership role she's not taking one like I feel like she was probably like not really participating who was the other person Shelly's too quiet Shelly Alondria and Huda who else is there she was in the bottom I guess it was just the four yeah just the four so like I feel like Shelly and Alondria are really like the voices of reason in the villa everyone really likes them like on the show and outside outside and I'm honestly disappointed in them that they didn't like stand up to whatever Huda wanted and know that what the right decision was because it was so clear that Amaya is the one that should go home like and her sending Pepe home was just them sending Pepe home was just the most transparent thing I've ever seen yeah like there are why why should Hannah go home I mean them sending Hannah home I can't why should Hannah go home why should Hannah go home she did nothing like she's literally she you sent home her last boyfriend she found a new boyfriend it's actually But it's like the whole premise of the show.

1:09:05It's like Amaya wasn't offering anything. Yeah. It's not like she was like Huda, which you could argue Huda is like the most dramatic. And she's going to continuously bring entertainment. Like, I just don't get it. No, I don't. And at least like we know America didn't like her. At least put Huda in the bottom three and save her. It's fine. Save her then. I don't think they would have saved her because. Oh, then they would have had to choose. They would have had to choose. And I think they would have been like, we're always saving her and maybe not done it. And I don't think producers like wanted to leave that up to chance because they need her.

1:09:37How do you think producers let Jeremiah go home then? It was like, I just don't understand that. I feel like they thought if Amaya and Austin went home, it would have just been like very obvious. Like goodbye. Like people wouldn't be so fired up like we are now. Like we're very fired up. And I feel like they think that's a good thing. Like people are invested in the show. Like, oh my God, did you see last night's episode? But let me tell you. Gets the social tweets up. I fucking hate this show. Yeah. I hate like I just nothing makes sense I was saying to Claudia on the Patreon like a lot of it was a lot of the cast members they're like young so I think that they like during COVID were in high school and college and like doing remote learning.

1:10:13I didn't want to be reminded of that. It's giving remote learning. These people can't think. No their IQs. No offense. Every time they're left to make a decision it's the wrong one and I can't watch it anymore. I do lose a couple brain cells. I feel like the producers are laughing being like we crushed it and I keep saying like. It really feels like Hunger Games, like Philip Seymour Hoffman being like, how can we raise the stakes? How can we make this so crazy? And I feel bad for them in a sense where it's like they were having a nice night and then they get a text. They go to the fire pit. And it's like, no, they're so upset.

1:10:42They're like, no, it's about to go down. OK, but wait, who is hysterically crying? Oh, the way Hannah, which was really sad. But she she really looks like she just got like a death sentence. No, I know. But like she's gone through it twice now. Like hysterical. I think when you're in there and you're bored all day and this is like the biggest deal. in the world. I totally get it. And time goes slower in there. And so I think that even when she was like, I don't know how I'm supposed to look at you guys. You just sent me home, which she's so right for that. She had, there was no reason for her to go home.

1:11:12The obvious choice was Amaya and they fumbled the ball and the boys just, I don't know, they all think they have a chance with Andrina now. They don't. And now like Huda, she got Jeremiah out of the villa. She doesn't have to watch him talk to another girl. And she got the girl out who's talking to the guy that she wants to talk to. Like, how did she end up winning? I don't know. I don't like how much power it feels like she has. I agree. And she just like, I don't know. I just don't like how dramatic, even the conversation she had with TJ. She was like, I'm not going to be like that kind of girl that's like, fuck you.

1:11:46It's like, actually, we literally watched this. Actually, that was literally you. You're the only one who does that. Good for TJ for detaching. Oh, I knew he didn't like her from the second. I knew he didn't like her, but I felt like if he didn't make it clear, and I'm shocked that he did make it so clear because like it's nice to have options. Yeah. She would have, like you don't want to be attached to her because like she will bring you down. Like look at Jeremiah. And he knew that because he can't see, was he able to watch the show? Some of it, yeah. Oh. I think cutting her off before like you become a part of her story is a good thing to do.

1:12:17Yeah. I'll be very curious what Pepe does but now in Casa Amor like she'll have a million like blank slates. I feel like they're kind of safe now within the house. Like they'll have time to get away from like the drama within each other. And like I'm excited to see what happens. But I just, I don't want their. But no one's in a like, if any couple gets broken up by Casa Amor, I literally won't be surprised or care. Like Nick really. Or care, you're right. Nick is, Nick and Sierra are probably the strongest couple and he's like has a foot out the door. Right. And that even will be obvious if there's like just like a really hot girl who'll get googly eyes.

1:12:46Yeah. And we'll just want to explore that. Yeah. And then go back to Sierra and she's not going to wait. Yeah. She's not going to wait between him unless she finds, you know, hopefully she finds someone else. maybe but I think she's really into him and I understand why and then Nick and I mean Ace and Shelly and Alondra and Taylor like zero chemistry I hope Shelly like I need Shelly to give me something because I'm kind of bored yeah no I agree and I like I don't have any issues with her but like you've now been here since day one like we need more yeah Alondra gives a lot because like she's always in good conversations and like saying the thing that like you're shouting to the TV um Huda obviously does her Huda thing and they're the three day ones so then people are saying as and as I've said people are always wrong they wanted the Nick and Landria to go on a date um that they will bring back they think that they're going to bring back a cast off guy and a cast off girl for Casa more because apparently there's one less person than there's always been they need to bring back Jeremiah when they showed them on the screen yeah like apparently there should have been one more guy and one more girl got it they need to bring back Jeremiah and like And then he's like back with if he walks back in with Andrina, like I would love that.

1:13:56We need we don't have any great moments of like great love. Like this is love island. It's not Survivor. No, and he's the only guy that actually seems to be willing to fall in love. Yes, I agree. And like I want to see a really strong relationship. Like I want to see a couple come out of it. That's like Leah and what's his name or like whoever went last year. Yeah. I can't remember anybody's name. No, that's OK. There's a lot of people. And then for the girls, they think that Bella would come back. But she's, no. I'm sorry, her voice. I didn't miss, like she was nice on the show and I liked her no kissing thing.

1:14:29Yeah. But she needed to give a little bit. But I haven't missed her one day since she did not. No, I could not. Her voice did not match the face. And I'm not even like trying to be mean. It was just like, it was really grinding my gears a little bit. And when you paid attention to the things that she said, she didn't say anything. All that she said was, what? Yes. No. like it was no like there maybe she said other stuff off camera but like yeah there was no conversation i haven't missed her a day since she's been i really thought the first episode i thought she was gonna be like the hardest girl to beat yeah i was like she's gonna be the one the other girls are gonna be jealous of no but i'm glad that like when she had to debase herself and then start kissing everyone and then still got sent home like no guys were calling her prude they're disgusting like the whole show is disgusting and like now i'm sucked in and i'm watching and it's not that I can turn it off it's like it's obviously great father I really enjoy talking about it on this show and having like strong it's a part of my like routine now so but I'm not I'm still like I'm I hate everyone I'm so mad I want to see some love yeah and if they do bring a girl back I guess it should be Hannah who else has gone home at this point really like I don't even care about the girl I just need Jeremiah to come back I need Jeremiah to come I need another I need a girl that is strong that isn't like mean I agree like I want a real a girl with a real connection that that really wants to fall in love because I'm not getting that from anyone but Huda but Huda's mean yeah I want a girl that's nice confident and wants to fall in love like I want Aaliyah I feel like that's Alandria except for some reason she's into Taylor who gives nothing and we're sort of stuck and she likes him it seems the fact that she chose him over Jalen like I'm not going to question whether or not she likes him because of course like Jalen was a perfect man yeah and so you obviously find Taylor to be more perfect um I feel like I would have a hard time not thinking about the outside world like could I be with this person really on the outside like that those are things that go through my head I'm just I'm more rational than like falling in love in Fiji I know but I also feel like this cast feels really young and like it doesn't nothing matters to them in terms of the love and I feel like the love is like becoming a subplot on this show where it's like more about strategy and okay that's just like not the show I thought I was watching I like the love I want to there to be at least one lasting couple I want Molly and Tommy that's the best sort of season oh my god I really need that Molly and Tommy we're not getting a Molly and Tommy I need a Molly and Tommy like I need just a gorgeous two gorgeous humans that are just like just so cute each other and in love and like and that's enough for them I also love the UK because they speak so much more eloquently.

1:17:12Yeah. Like Huda is cussing within every two words. The conversations are really getting to a place of, someone asked us, what's your favorite fruit? That's where we're at. Fucking strawberry. That's where we're at. It depends what's in season. Like right now I like strawberries because they're in season and they're tasty. Oh, you're saying that's what they're talking about. Someone asked, what's your favorite fruit? Oh, I saw that and he said, I hate pineapple. and now we know you know what the worst was whatever conversation hannah and pepe had what was it it was so it was so dumb which honestly i feel for them because they're like what do you talk about i know all day and all night i know there's nowhere to go but it was just like it hurt it hurts it does hurt to watch sometimes but when you have no phone you do start to talk about things that are just like things you wouldn't normally talk about like so like what's your favorite sport yeah there's nothing else to do no I know it's really getting rough I'm so mad at everyone I need a redemption episode bring back Jeremiah yeah so that I'm single Jeremiah if you're out just like justice for you and hit me up I don't know if I'm your type though I ship and how old are you because that matters yeah I ship okay maybe it's not so bad come home Jeremiah Juliet's waiting Juliet thank you so much for joining me today this was So much fun.

1:18:28I'm so glad we got that all off our chest. Yes. I feel better now. It's like a little therapy sesh. Agreed. Tonight, there's more Love Island. And I do believe we'll be recapping it tomorrow with tomorrow's co-host because she is another expert on the matter. So I'm just going to leave that there. Juliet, where can everyone follow you and shop JMP? Juliet Porter is my Instagram, at Juliet Porter. And then at JMP the label for my bikinis and at Don't Be Ridiculous for my podcast. I love it. Thank you. Thank you all for listening. We will see you tomorrow. Love you. Bye. Bye guys.