Rumors and Nastiness: Friday, January 9th, 2026

28:29Like this is my Hillary Duffman anymore toxic friend group. But you said that you have unlimited capacity. I was speaking like more generally for family. Yeah, I was talking about Zach. My husband. Yeah, that's why when I go to your house, I want to hang out. You're going there to see him. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And he knows that too. When you say you love me. No. Guys, one of the episodes to be longer. Okay. No, I love you more. Remember when people used to complain that we sing too much? I'm glad that that stopped. Is it? I don't read our like. Comments? I don't. Actually, I do. But like, I guess maybe I do.

29:08So I don't know that they say that. No, like people used to complain like in the comments. Like too much singing. I'm so glad we shed those. Either you've accepted it or you've moved on. And we're all better because of it. To a music-less podcast, we are better. A joy-less podcast. That was never happening. We used to get that all the time. I imagine when we added a theme song every day to every episode, that was when they had to do it. We officially shook off. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Zach Bryan has a new album and he's singing about chicken fry. Oh, okay. Here we go. I don't even know this because I don't keep up with losers.

29:45Zach Bryan isn't holding back on his new album called With Heaven on Top. So he has some songs. He has 25 songs. Yeah, it's like grammatically weird. With Heaven on Top. I'm sure if we heard the song that it's about. Right. It's like a beautiful Sunday with heaven on top. Yeah, it's like, totally. Yeah. You should listen to it. Nah. I like my version better. With a beautiful Sunday with heaven on top. Yeah, like have... Chocolate sprinkles and heaven on top. Give me a cherry with heaven on top. 25 songs seemingly shedding some light on his feelings toward his ex-girlfriend. We don't care. Chicken fry La Paglia.

30:24We actually don't care about your feelings. That's what's so fun. And life with his new wife and his decision to get sober late last year. Late last year. So that's like a month ago. And also, how was he already writing about his marriage? He got married last week. Late last year. Maybe it was the year before. Maybe it's been a year and a week. Okay. So what did he say about Miss LaPogs? So he has a song called Skin taking after Miss Breen. And he takes aim at her, promising to, quote, take a blade to my old tattoos in order to drain the blood between me and you. he said quote i'm taking a blade to my own skin and i ain't ever touching yours again i'm sorry this sounds like sabrina how do tattoos take to your skin does your higher ground ever sink in do you love people just to win when it's over okay yeah like she took the moral high ground i guess he's saying because she refused to like be a victim of his abuse like okay you got her yeah um the way and then he like then he said do you still talk shit on all your friends need to take it all to the chin this time stone cold sober i forget who it was that said and it was i really wish i could attribute this quote to the person who said it because like i guess what's the big secret like oh she talks shit about her friends to her boyfriend like okay who doesn't like i literally talk shit about every person in my life and it's just like if i love you i'm talking shit about you like i forget who said it it was like yeah when somebody leaves a room like we are talking about you like it's human nature it could be bad it could be good that does not mean we don't love you like we're just talking who said that i don't know it was so brilliant and I feel like it was like Maya Angelou or something.

31:53I've not heard that one, but I do agree. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? They drove a wedge between her and all her friends and then she like didn't have her friends anymore and maybe spoke poorly of them because they weren't her friends. Right, and she was like in this crazy ass relationship. Like I just, there's, I don't even know if there's anything he could say that I would be like, you know what? I feel that. Or you know, I see his side. Yeah, well, I wonder how the album is. I'll have to ask Margot Washtray. yeah one thing about our sister Margo she's like an extremely you know you have like a couple of friends who like randomly like listen to Chris Brown like that's Margo and Zach Bryan yeah Margo doesn't listen to Chris Brown that would be way worse I just want to say um she listens to Zach Bryan and she's not afraid to show it there's some things you have to listen to in secret and I get it like but she doesn't even yeah so I think that's like more respect yeah yeah yeah so let's see if she likes the album I'm sure it's good like no one's saying he's not a good song maker he just also is like an abuser holding space for two truths.

32:51Bad guy. Bad guy. Are you ready for our next story? Time's flying so fast when I'm with you. It's some music news because it appears as though we have to go to the Houston Rodeo. Who's performing? I've actually always wanted to go. I've been to the Fort Worth Rodeo. They had no like famous singers there though. Kelly Clarkson and Rascal Flatts. You're kidding. Wait, when is it? The rodeo is a series of dates in 2026 like march 2nd march 3rd and it's like different artists perform on different days we are obviously going first of all because that's like a fun family thing to do rascal flats perform and we do like houston week for the toast rascal flats perform march 4th kelly clarkson's march 14th okay so we can't stay for 10 days but like we are seeing rascal flats perform before like at a concert so maybe we just go for kelly okay march 2nd is riley green oh i've seen him perform i don't need to go for rascal on March 4th.

33:47The next day is Russell Dickerson. Okay. Also really good. And the next day is Lizzo. But a fun, no. A fun fact about me is I've never seen Kelly Clarkson before in my life. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. You haven't lived. No, I know. And like I've seen Russell Dickerson. I've seen Rascal Flatts. I've seen all that Riley Green. So I need to go see Kelly. Okay. And if we go to Kelly, the day before her is Shabuzi. Your favorite. And the day before him is Chris Stapleton. Oh, we're obviously going to that. Yeah. And that's like a three-day run. Oh my God. It's so fun. this is very exciting yeah we can we actually like we're always like we should go and then let me just like think so it would be march the middle of march you have somewhere to be no no i'm available i am also available okay let's just make sure it doesn't coincide with like passover you know it doesn't that would be bad passover's beginning of ape okay no we're going watch out houston here we come hold us accountable should we do oh my god oh my god okay from the rodeo well of course we'll do podcasts like for the days that we're there and anyone of course a Kelly Rascal come on the podcast.

34:44Oh, maybe that's where we get Kelly. Let's take an RV. You know, it's my dream because I fucking love that movie RV with Robin Williams and Cheryl Hines and Jojo. Let's do it. Like, let's all load up in an RV. Who would drive the RV though? My husband's a good driver. Okay, but Jackie, but like RV is not. No, he can't, like we've. He would need to spend the next two, three months like getting his RV license. Yeah. Okay. I'm open to it. And then it's not fun for your husband. So we could like have a driver, but then there's like, this is a random guy in the car with us, you know? Okay, I'm putting Houston in to see how long the drive is.

35:21I just want to say, and we could podcast, like I would die. Okay, so it's 16 hours. Oh. But I think that like we drive eight hours one day, like stay somewhere cargy overnight. I guess it's just like 16 hours. We're not driving. We're not in a car. We're in like a playground. And if we break it up to two days, how do people do it? To be clear, we also could break it up into like five days and like stop and see places, you know, if you wanted to. Okay, that's a misery. Remember when the Beermans did that on Don't Be Tardy? Oh, man, this is my dream. As long as I get the bed in the back and you guys sleep in the bunk beds, of course.

35:52No. Well, I'll be much thinner by March due to the Zet Bound, so I might be able to take one of those bunk beds. Can you imagine the kids? No, I'm telling you, it would be amazing. The car seats. Do you need a car seat? Yeah. Yeah, that's like not as fun. It takes up like a lot of space. No, no, it's fine. Like in the front. They sleep in a car seat? it oh yeah sleeping at night no we're gonna sleep in a hotel remember we just said we're gonna stop okay and like should we also wrap the rv and like the toast because now we're driving cross-country like this is a promotional opportunity i guess oh my gosh just an idea i really think we should like is there like a company that does this sort of stuff for you you know what i mean probably like plans it out like if like that would be helpful luxury rvs oh yeah of course it's got to be lux just to be clear okay luxury at this point like let's just take a jet you know if we're going luxe.

36:38Oh, right. Luxury every, and do they come with drivers? Yeah, the more I think about this plan, like we obviously need a driver. And what's going to be playing on like the screens the entire time? Of course, RV. Have you ever seen RV? Yes, I have. It's the best movie. Like, yeah. Oh my God, I'm like so excited. Just the idea of, of this. Your trips never looked this good. No, I'm telling you, and I've ended up on like TikTok where people like do RV tours or they're like selling RVs and they're like, Here's our Lux model with like the 14-inch platform or whatever. And let me tell you, like, these ain't your grandma's RVs, okay?

37:12Like, they've got plasmas. They've got Wi-Fi. They've got like reclining chairs. I'm telling you, I could see you're getting excited. I'm open to it, but I don't know. Like, how do I entertain kids in the car for like eight-hour stretches? Oh, my God. Like, music, games, like, iSpy. Like, so many games. Eight hours of iSpy. No, like, Kayla would love it. I'm telling you. Okay. I'm open. And like, what's like one thing between, we could leave from here, obviously, because it's closer. We leave from here to Houston. Like one thing in the middle that we like absolutely need to see. So there's a couple things.

37:46Like, first of all, we would like be driving through the panhandle. So like we could also stop in like Northern Florida, like 30A, which is beautiful. I don't know if you've seen. Okay, I don't need to leave Florida. Like go see more Florida. It's literally different, but New Orleans. Oh my God. We got to do it. But like, actually, I feel like New Orleans might take us out of our way a little bit. Houston really is the eastern most part of Texas. I didn't even realize. That works for our trip. It's right there. That really works for our trip. We pass through like what? Like Louisiana? We pass through.

38:15So we drive up Florida to the left. What about the Grand Canyon? Is that anywhere nearby? No, nowhere nearby. Yeah, no, it's really Louisiana. How many? A state park. I've never been to a national park. Like we could hit a little bit of Alabama and Missouri, Mississippi. Okay. So like Mobile, Alabama. Oh my God, you're kidding me. Mobile, Alabama? I'm not even joking. You don't know what I'm about to say? No. Oh my God. Ready? But somewhere else that we actually have to go. Just hold on. We have to go to Mobile, Alabama so I could literally do this. I stepped off the bus in Mobile, Alabama. The sun was slowly setting on the bay.

38:59It was six o 'clock on a summer Friday afternoon. Shabbos was an hour away. We walked around the town wondering what to do. Cause Shabbos is no time to be feeling blue. But then I saw a man who looked the same way too. I was quite relieved to find a fellow Jew. Two, three. I asked the man, I saw how many Jews in this town. Whoa, he said to me, there used to be a minion around. Whoa. Then one of us passed away and we've been feeling down. But now it seems as though another Jew has been found. Won't you stay with us for Shabbos, Minion Man? Won't you stay with us for Shabbos, Minion Man? There's another verse, but I won't bother you guys with it.

39:53Do you not know Minion Man? I do. A classic song from the Onex. I was just looking up ways to shave off time on the trip. But the other place... Of course, like I'm over here like envisioning dreams for our trip and you're over here trying to shorten it. Yeah, like if we flew to the top of Florida and then started our drive like from Tallahassee. Is that better? Yeah, we would. What about Seaside? Yeah, that's like. Okay, so I have some friends we should visit in Seaside, the Reeds. That's what I'm saying. That's what I said 30A, the panhandle. Okay. That's why I said like when we drive through, like we actually should stop there.

40:21It's very pargy. Okay, so we'll spend a week at my friend at the Reeds house. They have a sick house and they're always inviting us. So like we'll go. And then maybe they'll come with us. Oh my God, this is so fun. The other place that's on the way is Pensacola. Jackie, we have to go on this trip. She's from Pensacola. That's not much bigger than Maysville. If you guys know that one time I auditioned for a Lawn Dower SVU episode and it was in my monologue. I obviously didn't get the part because I was obviously too beautiful for it because I needed someone really ugly. Like an actual bridge troll.

40:46Okay. We have to go and I have to stand outside the Pensacola town and like do the monologue. I'll have to find the script in my email somewhere. And I have another idea for how we could. I don't want to talk about this anymore because I know we're not going to do it. I'm getting sad. No, but this would make me like, this is enticing just because we set our resolutions, like make more money. Oh, okay. If we do shows along the way. To an area that like we have no plans to otherwise tour in. And then the RV is an expense. And because we're not touring, because we're not like touring artists. No, yet.

41:13But that's always our thing. Like we always say if we go somewhere, like we should do a show. Do a show to pay for the trip. Yeah. Let's do it. Mobile, Alabama. We're huge in Alabama, by the way. I've done like a ton of standup in Alabama. Like all over. So we should do a show in Pensacola. And then I also saw Lake Charles. I like the name of it. Okay, Charles. Lake Choochie. Lake Choochie. Okay, so can't wait to never do this, but it was fun to envision. I feel like if it's meant to be, it will come together. You know, if like. If the stars align. Yeah, if the Houston Rodeo reaches out and is like, we would love to have you.

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44:54You must be an active subscriber to receive the free dessert. Homechef.com slash toast. Thank you, Sash Turt. You're welcome. Our next story. Khloe Kardashian reveals how her family handles money splitting costs. Oh, yes. So Chloe took to her podcast to talk about how the girlies split costs on certain items and their philosophy around like sharing and paying for each other. So she said, me and my sisters do not Venmo each other, but we always take turns. She said, I would never go with one of my sisters and expect for them to always pay. We always rotate. It's just never really a thing because everyone's really respectful with each other.

45:31She said she recently footed the bill for Kim with their kids. They like her kids and Kim's kids all needed like new shirts for spirit day. And they have this like little shop and that only accepts cash. So Chloe did like Kim didn't have any money. So I was like, I'll get it for you. It's nothing. And she was like, I'll pay you back. Just tell my business manager to get you the money. And she's like, Kim, it's fine. We're good. I didn't get it back. But later she was like, oh, let me buy this for you since you got me that stuff. She said, we're always aware of someone else spending money. I think we're, dare I say, normal in that regard.

46:03So when I heard Chloe was talking about how we're in her sister split expenses, I was like extremely excited. Shirts for spirit day did not come to mind. I was more so thinking like chartering jets. No. And it's like when they go on a trip, I imagine they split the trip, but like if it's Kim or Kylie's plane, they're footing the bill for the plane. So how does that factor into stuff? Right. I was like the things that normal people don't buy, like normal people do buy shirts for spirit day. That's more so what I was like looking for clarity on. And also like when you're at that level of wealth, does everybody split things equally or is it still like, well, Kim's a billionaire and like Courtney's not like I was really like more curious about that.

46:39I would never expect them to tell us, but she's like opening the door and giving us nothing. Well, I feel like it one it all comes out in the wash, too. I feel like oftentimes I would imagine like someone's planning a trip like they want to take their kids to the mountains. We're going on this trip. Does anyone want to come? And everyone sort of like tags along. Now, I imagine if you're always tagging along and you're never like doing your own trip, paying for your own trip, then like you might not continue to get invited if people feel like they're always paying for you. But I'm sure it's like akin to normal families just on a much bigger scale.

47:09Yes. Like I've never Venmo'd you. No. For anything. No, but we do Zelle one another for like bigger stuff. Yeah, we do Zelle one another. Yeah, not that much. Not really. It's more so just like you get the next thing. Yeah, yeah. I actually can't recall the last time I zelled you I can recall the last time I zelled you because I'm me but also because it was just so recently on New Year's for our hair but I didn't ask you to no but Jackie you were the one who coordinated someone coming to do all of our hair then you paid for everyone's hair and I was like well no don't pay for everyone I'll pay for mine and some else you know like a little zhuzh that was very sweet of Koji I didn't ask I was happy to do it I'm mindful of finances but I'm not disgusting I'm never going to leave people being like oh she didn't pay her she didn't like i'm generous but i'm just like having a nightmare fit about it when i get home you know yeah like i'm paying for everyone and then crying about it yeah you know what i mean like i don't think anybody's ever described me as like not generous or cheap um except for ben because he's the one who like here's how i truly feel you know like that fucking bitch you were just telling me this morning why do you think she's gonna pay me back how you truly feel i literally like yeah because at the beginning of the year like yeah you want to start rocking money you want to start on the right foot and be financially Yes, and I was being like a little nutty like at the end of last year.

48:23Like I moved apartments. Like my rent is much more. Like I'm just like more. I'm like here like just like spending money. Like when am I going home? I don't know. Like I'm just being nutty. Yeah. That's why we have to go on tour. Yeah, right. Of course. Everything will be better after the tour. The RV. The RV tour. Yeah. That would be historical. When we don't do it. I'm open. I'm just like reverse psychologizing. No, I'm open to it like for the kids, you know. because obviously an RV doesn't sound like my idea of a good time. I get motion sickness. I don't like to travel backwards or sideways.

48:55I'm going to have to be sitting shotgun. Next to the driver. In the jump seat. Yeah. But if it's going to be a great experience for the family and for my kids, I will be open to it. I'm so excited. Are you ready? I'm going to start whispering to your kids, like tell your mom you want to go and see an RV. Because then if they're like, we want to go see you. I should be like, okay. Yeah, then I'll plan the best RV trip ever. Yeah. You won't even have to plan it. Great. That's right. Guys, come here. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Mm-hmm. Kendall Jenner is addressing the rumors that she's a lesbian.

49:27Oh, I thought you were saying she's addressing the rumors that, like, her plastic surgery. No. Yeah, because she said she's never had anything done except for baby Botox in her forehead. No filler. No nose job. No lip. No lip. That was really crazy. And she said she's never had a nose job. Like, Bible on my life. I've never had a nose job. she said that she took accutane um and there are like her lips there are theories that accutane shrinks your nose like people have said that like there's no medical data that proves that but a couple people like i took accutane i swear to god like my nose got smaller and she said that's what happened to her i can believe that accutane is extremely powerful and potent yeah and like strong strong so i can believe that lip lip i'm curious about she said no fillers but so what is she saying about her being a lesbian yes i forgot that people think that i haven't thought that in a while she's breaking her silence on the rumors that she's secretly gay i'm cracking up uh she went on in your dreams podcast that's also where she said the plastic surgery thing oh okay and she talked about um the gay rumors she said there's this whole side of the internet that thinks i'm a lesbian she confirmed that she is not gay but that she would have no problem coming out if she were she said i understand that coming out is not an easy thing for anybody if not most people and i'm not saying that's an easy thing but knowing and i can speak for myself here it's so funny all the coffee like all the different you're right don't cancel me i know it's hard i did this i know for everyone it's different but for me if i can speak on my own experience she said if i can speak for myself here and knowing myself i think at this point in my life i'd be out if i was uh she acknowledged that she knows coming out is not an easy thing to do she's just saying i'm just saying that knowing me and knowing how i'd want to live my life I would I'd have no problem being that uh she reflected on the narrative that she's hiding this thing from her fans she said I've seen really fucked up things that are like it's bad for business and I'm like what how I don't understand it all's to say as of today I am not gay I don't think I will be but I'm not closing doors to experiences in my life okay that's like one way to throw people off if you are like um I I know that people thought that because like there are a couple of things about her that's not like typical girl you're like I'm a nerd and like I like horses um but i don't think that i haven't thought that for a while i do know that people think that it's not that big of like a corner of the internet like a couple of years ago people thought it like it's really not huge just like she's acting like gay lore you know like people do like there are i do feel like people sometimes think that about her and i do think it's because and she said this too she's not like public in her relationship so you never really see her like loved up with a guy i don't know why people immediately then think that she's gay but i I guess also compared to her sisters who are like oddly traditional in the sense of like having kids.

52:09And she's the only one who doesn't have kids. Maybe that's why. I don't know. No, but it's been a while that this is just. But I. First of all, I believe her. That's what she said. And yeah, all of her reasons. Like if she were gay, she would come out. There are a lot of people in her industry who are. And it doesn't affect. Yeah. I feel like what she's saying without. And also her dad is trans. Right. Right. I feel like what she's. It's a welcoming space. Trying to say like without being insensitive. Cause like I said earlier this week, like there are, you know, people, but for the most part, like I feel like we've evolved past, like, you know, gayness.

52:42Like it's like, like it's the least big deal. Like, especially in like certain industries and in Hollywood, specifically parts of the country. Like it's not the big deal that it once was. Right. And like coming out, I think these days is looks a lot different than it did like 10, 20 years ago. And I think that's kind of what she was saying. um so yeah i didn't really wonder if she was les but she's not cool she's not but it's also like like she didn't close herself off to interesting to know well she can't you know all the different um i do also think like if you are really deep on like the gay lore um like there is she's involved there could be because she was a part of a lot of people forget because so much has happened in pop culture but like kendall briefly was in taylor's girl gang like via gigi um and then cara de lavin And like there was like a lot of les energy pulsing through that.

53:35And Kendall then like ending on bad terms. Now, of course it has to do with her sister, but like you could, if you were a theory person, you could look into her involvement in that group as well. I agree. Maybe the group got a little leszy. Yeah. And then it was like weird and they couldn't like talk to each other and then they all stopped being friends, you know? Yeah. Cause are you a, um, a gay lore truther? I am not a gay lore truther. However, I'm not. I'm not at all. Like Taylor's like literally been telling us for years. She like loves dick. Like she loves guys. She couldn't have more boyfriends.

54:06Like I do think her friendship with Carly Kloss. That's the only thing for me that I feel like is a little curious. Like maybe they did fall in love. And like it was so fast, so furious. There are a lot of lyrics that point to. There's just. Yes. There's a lot of Carly Kloss, but maybe it was just like a crazy friendship. I don't know. That's the only thing I'm like a little like, well, but for the most part, no, I don't. And I don't think you could be like Taylor. You could be like engaged to Travis with like, well, being a lesbian. I don't know. Or bisexual. Oh, except I did see, cause I ended up on the craziest parts of the internet.

54:39I did see what gay lore says about Travis. Cause to me, like if you ever thought Taylor was a lesbian, Travis, like everything's over now. Well, Travis is gay. They say you're being so binary. Okay. I'm shy and I'm binary. Sure. What they say, Travis is what? Travis is gay. And you know, Ross, his roommate, who like looks just like him. Sorry, not his roommate, his friend who looks just like him. That's his boyfriend, the Gaylor says. I don't know Ross. Oh, yeah, he's like there all the time. You've definitely seen him. He is Travis's roommate and lover. And Taylor's lover is whomst? I don't know who they say she's currently dating.

55:16You know, there was the fiddler in her band. No, I don't know about the fiddler. Yeah. There was a fiddler. She played the fiddle. That Taylor loved. back in the early this is what this is and i don't think this at all female fiddler yeah i think her name was emily and they were like really close and taylor was like on the trajectory i think it was like the fearless era and you know management saw what was going on and they sent that fiddler packet and she was literally never to be seen again she literally vanished and that's what gay lords people say i don't think that i'm just letting you know what they think thank you for letting us know about the fiddler on the on the tour the fiddler on the tour well thank you kendall for clearing that up it's also just like funny to when people like address like really like obscure internet rumors about themselves it's like they see these things not only that but a lot of celebrities will go out of their way to address like the most random niche not like the thing you know what that's not what we're actually saying what are people wondering about kendall right now i actually think that this sort of floats out there so every now and then um And cool that she addressed it.

56:23Shall we dive on to Queenie and Weenie of the Week? Yes, we shall. Queenie and Weenie of the Week is our weekly segment we do every Friday. It's sort of the last thing we leave you with on Fridays to sort of wrap up the week, take a look at the week at a glance, and we deliver two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. They're pretty self-explanatory. If you did something amazing this week, you might be Queenie of the Week. And if you did something kind of lame this week, you might be Weenie of the Week. And don't take it to heart. It is what it is. Now, I think we should just sort of get the weenie out of the way because we obviously both have the same weenie.

56:49Say it on three. One, two, three. Ashley Tisdale French. Now, her writing, like, she might not have been weenie of the week if she hadn't then released the PR. I'm a registered Democrat. This isn't about the celebrity group. It's about a different group of friends. Like, that huge, like, she saw, obviously, like, the wind changing and, like, tried to, it's just, she got, she wanted attention and she got it. I want to give an honorary mention to Haley Duff. Yeah. Who said screw sisterhood? Yeah. Yeah. That's weenie like too. Not as big as Ashley. No, no. Ashley did it on a bigger scale. Yeah. Haley just hit the like button.

57:29Her finger could have slipped. Yeah. I do wonder what Vanessa Ann thinks of all this. She's so far past it. I don't know. She's like a mom. Yeah. And I bet she has a mom group. And a former friend of Ashley's. I'm sure she's texting Hillary right now. Like, isn't she the worst? Well, everyone now they're like, you know, when somebody's getting like their feet held to the fire, now they're like going back through their history, looking through. And people are like, well, why aren't Vanessa and Ashley friends? They were friends. They're both moms. Like you would think that they're at similar life stages.

57:54So people are just sort of pointing that out. And I just want to say like I'm not taking up for anyone in this situation. Like I don't feel – We have no stake in this game. Because I feel like everyone's done some wrong. And I don't even know necessarily that like I would enjoy this mom group either. Maybe I would find them to be toxic. But I wouldn't write two articles about it and cause them to, you know, dislike me even further. It's always interesting when somebody really like strategically tries to do something PR wise and it flips on them so completely. It reminds me a lot of like when Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner got married.

58:23Like, I mean, excuse me, got divorced. I feel like he tried to do something and it ended up really flipping. Yeah. A little different because he like tried to do it like covertly so we can't even. Yeah. Ashley was so obvious. He didn't leave his fingerprints on it. We just assumed. But yeah. Yeah. Weenie. Oh, no. That was weenie. Queenie. Do you want to go first or second? My queenie. I'll go second. Okay, my queenie. I feel like I've made her my queening so many times, but it just cannot be overstated. How much joy Alex Earl continues to bring to me as a woman in media. And also she's dropping hints that she's launching something.

58:58Ooh. What do you think? Give a PR prediction. So she said she's launching her company. She just said a company. She said that a couple of weeks ago. And then she posted on her Instagram a picture of her doing a photo shoot, which we're being led to believe is for the company. She's wearing little to no makeup. And I'm just putting it out there. I believe it's a skincare company. And I think everybody pretty much thinks that because she's like, you know, vulnerable about her skin. She shares a lot and she's made so many things go like hella viral. Do you know what MediCube is? No. OK, I didn't know about it either.

59:25It's now the biggest number one selling skincare brand on TikTok. And her facialist had recommended it to her. These wipes, like these pads cleared up her skin. She's very influential in the skincare space for young women. So I do believe like an Alex Earl skincare line is coming. I don't know what it's going to be called, but. I like that. It feels like road. but yes exactly sorry and she's my queenie obviously because of like her behavior over two years it's a little bit delayed but i couldn't let the week go by without um honoring her with that title and we did discuss it this week yeah um my queenie of the week always a queenie was queenie like this week a lot of queenies this week a lot of queens um kylie kylie at the critics choice awards wait i'm so glad you brought that up timothy maybe my queenie for acknowledging his partner of three years who's given this him this foundation and who he loves but kylie for being his partner of three years who's given him that foundation that he loves also quickly honorable mention for weenie minji oh i kind of like that better i don't know why i don't feel inclined to pile on to ashley to the sale like i think that you should leave your toxic friend group and never and just go and just shut up they should never see you again we should never know about it like Like, but I'm not like so fervent in my dislike.

1:00:37Like there was weenie like behavior exhibited. So you want to change your status, Amanda Seyfried, aka Manji? I think I do. Because I feel like the weeniness is consistent. It's overt. It's troll-like behavior. It's more nefarious. Whereas Ashley Tizia, like, I don't know something about it makes me sad. Yeah, that's fair. I'm really glad you brought up Kylie because I needed to say something. And I feel like I can't believe people haven't said this. I see it happen a lot with celebrities who own brands. and I've seen it with Kylie a couple of times. You know, she makes her quarterly TikTok promoting the brand.

1:01:05And you know, there are allegations, like you don't use your own products, whatever. And she's like, here's my five-step lip combo. And she did like this insane lip combo. It actually looked amazing. And it was like, well, she obviously knows her own products. She's opening the products and every single one of them is in the box. Like it's a new one. And I think this happens a lot with people who are just making promotional content for their brands. With celebrities a lot, we get like, Haley, you don't use Rode. And it's like, well, every time she uses Rode, it's like she's squeezing that lip peptide all the way out because she's used it so much.

1:01:31I feel like I've never thought that she doesn't use Rode. Kylie opened every brand new. Where was it filmed? In her car. Car is where you have used goods. I was thinking like if it's in her office, maybe she just like grab new ones. I'm going to film this video. No. I need celebrities to, if they're making content with their own stuff, I notice it a lot. Do you think she wanted to show us the packaging? No, because it was like off camera. She was just like, and this is the lip liner, but she's like taking it out of the box. Like, well, if you love it so much, why is it still in the box? Well, no, I think she does love it but she probably grabbed a new one like she probably there's probably a good reason why she did it because she does that off camera uses it but yeah it should feel more authentic yeah authenticity is the name of the game to the social media managers the brand managers for celebrity owned brands make sure that you're like but maybe she's authentic in the fact that like I pretty much use a new one every time yeah just like squeeze out half the bottle so it looks like you're using the face wash you know even if you are using the face wash and you just did this because of course Then we're on set.

1:02:30Let's say we're on set. It's a set. And part of the act is that you use it often. I'm surprised like social media users aren't more discerning. I see it a lot. I'm like, girl, throw the box away. We're on to you. And I do feel like Kylie uses a lot of her own products. I do. I do. They're a great product. They are good. But like, you know, people often think that. I'm wearing a bit of Kylie today on my lip. I like cobbled together three different lip liners because none of them were sharpened. And this is what I've got. I have a sharpener here. I found a sharpener in my drawer. my life has changed.

1:03:00That's our show. That is our show. You know what? I have metered parking today so I've actually got to go. Oh wow. So even if you wanted us to like dilly dally for the sake of it RoboCop is going to get me. I've never used a meter before. Very yucky experience. I know you're not chronically aligned so I do want to tell you that metered parking is actually like it's fat phobic. I don't know if you know that. Tell me everything. I actually I feel that. You know you feed the meter and when the meter is running out it says I'm hungry okay so that's like fat phobic language kind of like you can't use a manhole it's a person hole or whatever skinny people get fed and hungry as well i thought it was fat phobic because you have to walk and find one what fat people can't walk fat phobic no it's like but what what what about walking fat people can too it's just like exercise like it's happy about exercise it's just harder fat phobic language i don't appreciate that i think what you said that feed me I'm not hungry it's fat phobic.

1:04:01That's not real is it? 100 % real. Well I'm with you guys. I think we should end metered parking. I did it today. I did not enjoy the experience. They don't take Apple Pay. I had to put my credit card in. It was wet inside. It was wet inside. My card came out wet. Probably rain but okay. Yucky. That really is gross. Where'd you wipe it? I put it back in my wallet. Okay like in your Chanel wallet. Why not just wipe it on your Amazon set? Hermes. that you're not wearing an air mace set but thank you for thinking my wallet's air mace oh is that the one i got for you for your birthday no it's the one i got for myself that i like couldn't stop telling you about should i show everyone no okay it's really like in this economy jackie people can't afford rent that's like what everybody says when they don't like your tiktok they're like i literally can't afford to buy groceries you'd be excited for me i haven't bought myself a new wallet in 10 years i loved my old one it was just like a little pocket but my lifestyle has changed it's becoming like a mother and i just have more things um so i was really excited like it was a point of pride that I bought myself a new wallet but people can't afford to buy groceries so you should kill yourself that's literally what people say on TikTok like I I mean I literally can't afford to buy groceries so and it's like what this has to do with like this girl's forever 21 haul like it's just the comment people say now it's sort of like this is Wendy's yeah it's like bean soup theory that's what they call it okay tell me bean soup theory is like I'm making a video about how I love bean soup and it's like well I can't eat beans it's like well okay we don't give a fuck it's like what about me isms it's like that's the culture now it's being soup theory that's well i mean i can't afford to buy groceries but i'm happy that you took a trip to hawaii so we shouldn't talk about our rv trip no you yeah you can't talk about anything because you know someone someone somewhere is suffering yeah so i guess we can't talk i have to end the show the meter is up thank you guys so much for listening to the toast and learning morning show we deliver the fast five stories you need to know everybody the friday new tips are watching us on youtube please stop subscribing to this video thumbs up We're also available as a podcast and where podcasts can be found.

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