Salmon, iOS & Saoirse: Tuesday, May 19th, 2026

9:59Jackie Oshry:should mix up the hosts for love they do actually this is like their fourth or fifth host so yeah so it's like it's not all great you know but ariana has to sit there and be like i'm so

10:07Claudia Oshry:happy i'm so proud it's my girl of course yeah but i'm just like that's a little weird like she's gonna take your jobs absolutely your job's uh your job's uh what's next chicago on broadway

10:18Jackie Oshry:do you i don't think she would i don't think she sings or dances like i don't think she has but she's doing dancing with the stars oh oh oh wait so like if she really impresses everyone But like you can learn to dance. I don't think you can learn to sing. You can learn to sing better. But if you have no chops, I don't know if she has no chops.

10:33Claudia Oshry:But is it a really like vocal heavy role, Roxy?

10:39Jackie Oshry:The name on everybody's lips is gonna be Roxy.

10:45Claudia Oshry:I feel like you could do it because it's like it's yes, you have to sing. You have to just like be good at things. You don't have to like be incredible and you have to sell tickets. It's more like the ticket selling role.

10:55Jackie Oshry:You know, I was just watching, speaking of Chicago, a vlog from the actress Danielle Monet. She played Trina Vega in Victorious. And like one of her iconic lines from Victorious is like, have you ever heard that audio? It's from Chicago, the musical. Turns out she was up for the role of Roxy and she lost it. She shared a whole vlog about how upset she was. But like, it was like this amazing process, you know, yada, yada. But that would have been huge for like, for the millennial core.

11:16Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

11:16Jackie Oshry:Trina Vega actually playing Roxy. When I think she like played Roxy in the Victorious adaptation.

11:21Claudia Oshry:And the Academy of Victorious. Right, right.

11:23Jackie Oshry:Whatever school, Hollywood Arts. that would be beautiful we have actually a lot to do today because of course we're launching a huge business like I said Skinny Sprite's available now exclusively at Target we have Dear Toasters of course we have stories I guess that was your TV recap because I did not watch the new Rory I will but it's also like I'm kind of feeling stressed because tonight's also the next game and tonight's Summer House in the City I know Ben was making plans for us to go watch but I don't think I can no I'm stressed lots of content And I also haven't even cracked open Rocker's Bell Burden.

11:57Jackie Oshry:I'm telling you. I brought it to Florida with me. You're never reading Copper's Bell Burden. I have to read Copper's Bell Burden, Hayden Panettiere's memoir. And what was the third book? Oh, someone remind me. I had three books on my nightstand. Like on my emotional nightstand. Do you think you added to your Goodreads? Of course not. What was the third book I wanted to read? What was it? Lena Dunham. Oh, yeah. I actually really do. Copper's Bell Burden. This week, I've taken on so much. I started Rory. I have off campus. I have now in the city. Like, it's just a lot. Try being an influencer for a day.

12:27Claudia Oshry:Try it. Yeah. I don't know how I'm going to watch all that TV tonight. I know. Like, bedtime is just a blood mess. It's an hours long affair these days. So, we'll see. We'll see. We're doing our best. But we, like, actually have to watch Summer House finale. Yeah, of course. So, like, the next game, like, sorry, I'll have to tell Ben. Like, I can't. Yeah. And Zach might have to take the lead. On bedtime. On bedtime. Do we get together and watch? Or like the boys could get together. Do bedtime together while watching the Knicks. And watch the Knicks game. And actually then they could watch the Knicks game with the boys.

12:58Claudia Oshry:Like they could watch a little bit of the Knicks game. It's actually nice. That's cute. Okay. We can go upstairs. Yeah.

13:02Jackie Oshry:Get to the bedroom. You know.

13:04Claudia Oshry:Do our thing. All right.

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19:19Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Resort Turt. You're welcome, Jert. Our first story. Today's stories are quite random, like a lot of programming news, I would say. It's giving Modern TV Guide. Yeah, it is. So Ella Enchanted TV series is in the works at Disney Plus with Anne Hathaway producing. So a new series is in the work at Disney Plus. People confirms that they are in the early stages of developing a new TV series adaptation of Ella Enchanted based on the 1997 novel of the same name and the movie of the same name, which starred Anne Hathaway and came out in 2004. I didn't realize it was based on a... Based on a book, loosely.

19:53Claudia Oshry:I have a truth I need to share. You never saw Ella Enchanted? You didn't like Ella? I've never seen Ella Enchanted. Oh, that was the truth. Oh my God, everyone just gasped. Yeah, no, I've never seen it.

20:03Jackie Oshry:Like, I feel like it's always on. It's definitely like an E-movie we love. Uh-huh. It just missed me. And I get it confused with the Amy Adams one. Enchanted. Oh, right. I've never seen that either. Isn't that crazy? That movie's amazing.

20:15Claudia Oshry:Which is better? Enchanted. Like, you're obsessed with one of them. Which is it? Enchanted. Okay. And James Marsden's in it. you're kidding it's so good

20:23Jackie Oshry:you know James Marsden is like in the new season of Your Friends and Neighbors and like we're learning more about his character and he's like increasingly just like really fucking evil

20:30Claudia Oshry:oh don't

20:31Jackie Oshry:and it's really crazy because like he never does evil

20:33Claudia Oshry:no but he's also in that show that was like oh my god lightning in a bottle but then dead wait dead to me dead to me with Christina Applegate

20:45Jackie Oshry:uh huh and Linda Cardellini uh huh such a good fucking show did he play someone evil he also played twins maybe one was good Yeah, yeah. So he has range. And you know what? He's not too long to release that last season. He's not just Corny Collins. But he is. He was too good at Corny Collins. I'm like, Corny Collins is not an evil arms dealer.

21:03Claudia Oshry:But that's why he is good to play someone that is an unsuspecting evildoer. Yes, yes. But anyways, this is Ella Enchanted, which Anne Hathaway starred in the 2004 movie. It's about like a 16-year-old who's cursed at birth to obey every command. And it's just like cutesy fairy tale.

21:23Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I feel like this is kind of a trend we're seeing. Like we're prequel-ing and shmeek-willing. And I don't want to be a hater because I haven't seen this. And I don't know. And the L1 looks good. Prime video. But just like bring back Carrie Diaries, you know, ahead of its time.

21:36Claudia Oshry:Yeah. No, this sounds good. Why is Anne Hathaway working so hard? Like. Debt. Broke. Yeah, she's obviously in debt. I feel like everyone in the stories today is broke because everybody is working so hard and doing things that they do not need to do. when they have a lovely living, they have family. Are you talking about the Jonas Brothers? I am talking about the Jonas Brothers, which we'll get to. But like for Anne Hathaway, seriously, like she's taking on so many movies right now, like great, exciting projects, really classy stuff. Yeah, nothing bad. She hasn't like gotten to the point where she's desperate and she's putting out bad shit.

22:05Claudia Oshry:No, but like, why do you want to work so much? Like why?

22:08Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it couldn't be me. But I imagine like maybe she has, you know, a lot of family that she's supporting or like a gambling addiction. I don't know, because she is doing a lot.

22:16Claudia Oshry:And I think that like... Maybe she wants a plane or something. Yeah. I would like to know that. So what motivates Anne Hathaway to work this hard?

22:24Jackie Oshry:I worry about her because she's kind of fallen into the trope of being beloved and then becoming hated. Because it's just too much of a good thing. And it's a lot of exposure. And she's kind of, she's not there yet, but she's doing a lot. And I do feel like when you're doing a lot and you're so well-liked because people just are how they are, you will become hated. And I can see her falling down that rabbit hole again.

22:41Claudia Oshry:No, I don't think, it won't happen again. It won't happen like that. That's kind of like Taylor. Taylor's never going to get to that place again because she's ascended. like but when you do burn bright and fast really quickly it fizzles yeah with like jennifer lawrence that happened to like everybody loved her and then like they everyone like thought it was cool to hate her and then you get to like a place of just like stability yeah so i don't think she's gonna have it down again especially because she keeps making quality work and it seems like the world has come to appreciate her as long as she doesn't cut her hair like that's really what

23:12Jackie Oshry:the whole thing was she was so artsy because she didn't burn bright and fast she actually like really worked yes from princess of genovia and then she all the way up to lay miz at the oscars she cut her hair and it's like we could only take so much from celebrities like you know you're giving your speeches and it's just out of touch whatever and you also have a bad haircut she's now i think a lot of her um like buzz and why people love her is like her fits like she's kind of a fashion icon like out of left field and she needs to keep up with that sure it's not as like

23:36Claudia Oshry:flashy as a young person like yeah it's kind of nice it comes with age it's just like a respect and you don't turn on respect. You know?

23:44Jackie Oshry:Absolutely.

23:45Claudia Oshry:So I feel like that's also what's happening to Taylor because she also got that like, oh, her award show speeches are so phony. Why do you still think you're so shocked to win everything? That's how Anne Hathaway was sort of being. I guess people don't like that.

23:57Jackie Oshry:Remember when she took her Oscar and she says, I will use this as a weapon to fight self-doubt. It's like, girl, get out of here.

24:06Claudia Oshry:Maybe it's the self-doubt that keeps her working so hard. Maybe. But she is doing a lot. And this is like producing, you know, it's not even acting.

24:14Jackie Oshry:Well, if they were going to do it, they had to like get her stamp of approval. Like it's kind of how Reese is. But she's Hello Sunshine. Like she's actually making it. I think maybe Anne Hathaway is doing more than just being an in-name only producer.

24:26Claudia Oshry:No, I think that actually is good credit to the film because it's like even if she doesn't do anything, never shows up for one day. It's like she's a producer. Like it feels like an extension of the movie that was so loved. Absolutely. Okay, fine. So maybe she's just cashing a check here.

24:39Jackie Oshry:Yeah, yeah.

24:39Claudia Oshry:Which we love to see women in business. Yes. Okay. I just, you know, I worry about her. Where is it going to be? Disney Plus. Oh, of course. As it should be. Of course, of course. I like that. Yeah.

24:48Jackie Oshry:I think Disney Plus doesn't have like a lot of -

24:50Claudia Oshry:Going home.

24:50Jackie Oshry:Doesn't have like a lot of shows. Like what do you watch on Disney Plus? Like you watch stuff for your kids and like - Movies. And like National Geographic.

24:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

24:56Jackie Oshry:But it's like, do you see the new Disney Plus show? No, I guess they put it all on Hulu.

25:00Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

25:01Jackie Oshry:Right. Yeah.

25:01Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Some other people that like want to keep working and don't want to go home. The Jonas Brothers.

25:10Jackie Oshry:really crazy to me and I don't know why I keep letting the Jonas Brothers surprise me I don't know if the Jonas Brothers know how famous they are because they're always doing things that are in Congress with their level of celebrity like this is a band that sold out multiple nights at MetLife Stadium like that's what Taylor Swift does I was gonna say that's what Ed Sheeran does that's what Coldplay does and it's like they don't also do Jonas Con well they don't have to split in three ways so I do think a lot of what we see from the bros is the fact that they have to split it three ways and I so they need three jobs to make one whole income correct and they both have families like they spend a lot and they all do like other side ventures like Nick has tequila

25:44Claudia Oshry:coffee popcorn like Nick has a solo career I keep listening to his music in my car yeah I feel like everybody's obsessed with like Bruno Mars's debt sets and it's like well really I'm not worried

25:56Jackie Oshry:about Bruno Mars he is the biggest artist in the world like on a global scale I actually am worried about the Jones Brothers this is very lowbrow it's a recession indicator it's on iHeartRadio so like I get the musical element, but I don't know. It's, it's really, it's worrisome.

26:09Claudia Oshry:Well, I want to say there's two ways this podcast could be. There could be like, you know, this is cash grab. It's iHeartRadio. It's like not like a serious show.

26:18Jackie Oshry:But iHeartRadio is also a legitimately bankrupt company. And I just want to say they're not, we, when we were out to market, like with our show, like iHeartRadio was like making offers way less than everybody else. Like they're broke. Yeah. So I don't think that they're like, like they didn't get like an insane deal. I don't so but just listen if they were at Sirius XM there's two ways that this could be going and I just want to say they should have done this at Sirius XM because it would have been less not even

26:41Claudia Oshry:about the payday because if you have an audience you will have money and also maybe they want to be in good standing with iHeart because they run the radio stations they need radio for their music career so like it's all that's what people do who are like seriously one year in the industry listen so either this is like a fake show on iHeartRadio where they like just do like pre-recorded like pre-recorded like nonsense and like games and stupid shit and like nobody's really listening but think about it for a second if it were like an actually good show like and serious and like they talk about like fatherhood they have on guests they get like introspective they talk about brotherhood and family and history it could be like armchair expert yeah i don't know why but

27:18Jackie Oshry:i don't know which one they're going for and i don't know why i just don't feel like shows like that are capable of being made when they're at iheart radio i know that sounds really crazy but It's all just like kind of corny, buzzy, like filler for the radio.

27:31Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Aren't, um, Colch on, um, iHeartRadio? Last Colch? I was like, Colch. Last Colch. What is she talking about? Last Colch. Yes. And I do feel like that's why they're so popular because they're so different. Like they're acting, they are good. I was listening to the radio. Oh, when I was in Dallas and I didn't know how to put on music. So I just, I was like scared driving. So I just like stayed on the radio. So, Claudia, my commute was 25 minutes. I didn't hear one song. But let me tell you, I heard four advertisements for Last Colch podcast. Right. That's what I'm saying. It's a broke company.

28:03Claudia Oshry:Like, they just do commercials.

28:05Jackie Oshry:Yeah. So, I do think that they're like the darlings of iHeartRadio. And I do think they're an extremely popular podcast. And I wasn't talking about them. Sorry, I didn't realize that they were there. That does not mean being shady to anyone.

28:15Claudia Oshry:I'm just saying, like, maybe they could. It's possible. It's possible to have success there. And obviously, they could go anywhere, Last Colch. There's something that keeps them there. Right, right, right. That's true. Maybe it's all those commercials they're getting. I mean, I could use a commercial. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's fair. Imagine if there was four commercials an hour telling, like, relevant listeners to listen to the toast. I think that moves the needle. For sure. No, no. And I get, like, the radio aspect of it. But it just feels incongruous with their level of celebrity. But I do feel like at their level of celebrity, they could actually have a very successful, introspective podcast.

28:48Claudia Oshry:You know, and the thing about podcasts is that when done right, even by celebrities, it's career changing if you have a really good one. But I don't know if they're doing this with the intention. They're spread so thin. Are they doing this with the intention of making it really good? I don't know. Or is it just like to check a box?

29:02Jackie Oshry:Give me a list of celebrities who you think are on the same level of fame as the Jonas Brothers.

29:07Claudia Oshry:Also, I want to pull, the podcast is available now. Like I want to see what the description is. What are we doing here at Hey Jonas?

29:15Jackie Oshry:Okay, I just want to say that like the list of people that chat gave me, like they should have podcasts. Five seconds of summer. I feel like that's insulting to the Jonas Brothers. The Chainsmokers, I also feel like that's insulting to the Jonas Brothers. Dan and Shay, I also feel like, I feel like chat actually thinks very lowly of.

29:31Claudia Oshry:Or we just think like a little higher than Jen Pop.

29:34Jackie Oshry:Than Jen Pop. No, I'm telling you, the Jonas Brothers, maybe like, are they, are the Jonas Brothers like not cool or famous?

29:41Claudia Oshry:Like am I, do I have a skewed? We definitely are more into the Jonas Brothers than Jen Pop. Really? I feel like I'm always meeting people who are like Jonas. Because you're meeting fellow people like you. But I'm not even like Jonas Cronus. What do they call themselves? Like, Jonistas? I don't know. Wait, here's the description. Hey, Jonas, hosted by Kevin, Joe, and Nick. It's the Jonas Brothers you know, musicians, actors, and, well, yes, brudders. Now they're sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.

30:14Claudia Oshry:Okay, deep conversations. There's a trailer. Wait, what's the first episode? It's a, oh. Just a trailer or an episode? There's a trailer and then there's a 13 minutes episode. What is the description of the first episode? This is Hey Jonas. Join Kevin, Joe. Okay. The same thing. Let's just, can we listen to like a minute?

30:30Jackie Oshry:I feel like it's gonna be really produced.

30:32Claudia Oshry:Like getting to a great idea is hard.

30:35Jackie Oshry:I'm skipping ads. Excuse me. We have our own ads. Get out of here. Oh my God. They're not reading their own ads. How many minutes of ads?

30:44Claudia Oshry:So how did we, how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas guys?

30:48Jackie Oshry:Brilliant question.

30:49Claudia Oshry:I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. Three co-hosts is a lot. We had Sons of Jonas. It had nothing to do with any of that. I don't think you're right at all. We were talking about a thing. Talking over each other. We were calling and saying, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad. a Jonas and offered it up as a potential title. Oh, he's taking credit.

31:23Jackie Oshry:He's taking credit. They have a really toxic relationship.

31:28Claudia Oshry:Well, thanks, Nick. Mine was just a little bit more exciting of an elaborate story. So really, this story - I don't get any extra credit, you know, financial work for podcast points. I just want to say, I would love to just sit here and listen to another podcast on our podcast. Yeah, I know, I know. And call it a podcast. Yeah, right. Is that a thing? All right. I feel like everyone in the world had a podcast, so we just felt left out. Okay. We needed a podcast.

31:52Jackie Oshry:We needed the money.

31:53Claudia Oshry:Well, I was thinking more that we had a lot of really important things to talk about. That's true. You know, we don't spend enough time with each other as it is. So why not just fill the space between soundcheck and the show with a podcast where we have to be together in a closed environment? They're optimizing their schedule. Habit stacking. Habit stacking. I mean, why not make a couple grand in this hour when we're just sitting here taking a poop?

32:14Jackie Oshry:Because a couple grand split three ways after taxes and commissions is$3. even more no it's a great it's a good idea we should should definitely do it pull a question for the bowl that's low

32:33Jackie Oshry:and i'm sorry three people's too many for a podcast okay no i think it's nick we could all

32:38Claudia Oshry:answer it too maybe not no i think we could all we don't know what's in the bowl it's great Nick this is for you Nick do you pee in the shower oh yes I do I love and that's so

32:49Jackie Oshry:so it's the first kind of podcast yeah well the thing is I will give them grace the first episode of the toast was a shit show like you have to give grace it takes people a couple of episodes to get on their feet I'm worried about three people especially three people who I feel like struggle with who's the leader who's the middle like and I think Nick thinks it's him and I think

33:09Claudia Oshry:that Joe thinks it's him and I think Kevin thinks it's Joe. But I also feel like Kevin might be feeling like this is my time to shine. I'm the smart one. I'm the one. The fans are grown up. The fans like me, I'm a father. I'm the one who like makes good choices and is selfless. Settle down. Like you two are like rock star egos. But like when it comes to a podcast, you want to hear from the Kevin. It's with the life advice. It's very true. Maybe he's also going to be like talking over everyone. This is his time. Now Kevin is saying me. He doesn't sing, but he can talk. I'm worried about them.

33:38Jackie Oshry:I still am worried about them after hearing the first episode. But I just feel like knowing that the first question from the bowl is,

33:42Claudia Oshry:do you pee in the shower? Confirmed it's the first type of podcast. It's not deep convos. It's not the second type.

33:47Jackie Oshry:Yeah. They're not opening up a vein and bleeding out.

33:50Claudia Oshry:But, I mean, also, why do that on the first episode? Like, you don't even know if it's going to be a success. Right, right. I feel like give it time. It's not the worst idea. It's not the worst nominees for a podcast. It's really not. No, it's not. But I'm worried about them. And if the concept. Recession indicator. If the concept is that we have an hour between soundcheck and the show and like they're just sitting there talking and like shooting the shit, what they would be doing and now we're going to like record it and make money from it. I think that actually works. I do think the live shows will suffer.

34:17Jackie Oshry:Like doing a podcast, people think it's nothing. Like I'm sorry, you have to like when I get done here, I can take an app. Like you really you're supposed to give if you're going to do it right. You give it all like you can't actually that is the performance. You know, I think that their tour will suffer.

34:29Claudia Oshry:Interesting.

34:29Jackie Oshry:Yeah. And I will say one thing about them that, you know, you really cannot knock them for is that they are amazing performers. Like what they will always have. They should tour forever because maybe other financial. I don't know if their new music streams the way it used to, but they will. They have a really big fan base and they can tour forever and like make a living from it. They should do Vegas residency. I believe that they did. I believe it was enormously popular.

34:49Claudia Oshry:Because like their clientele would go to Vegas. That way they could like put their kids in school in Nevada. No, I mean, a lot of people live in L.A.

34:58Jackie Oshry:Oh. And go out to Vegas on the weekends.

35:00Claudia Oshry:And just trying to keep them home, you know?

35:02Jackie Oshry:That's what Adele did. She was like, when I went to her show, she was talking about how this is the most amazing work-life balance she's ever had because she's in LA all weekend. And I think, you know, sees her son's a jet. She jets back and forth every weekend. Yeah.

35:14Claudia Oshry:Well, no, I meant like if they got houses. Oh, they have a Vegas residency that starts tomorrow. Cool. Okay, so we're on the same page. Oh, so maybe it's like a Vegas residency podcast. They didn't make that clear. And maybe the Vegas residency is like sponsored by a heart radio. But no, what I was saying is like they could get houses in Nevada. They could live there. Not everyone wants to do that. Britney Spears did that.

35:34Jackie Oshry:I think when you have a residency where you actually perform on the weekdays. Like Donnie and Marie. I know you're right because Adele was weekends with Adele. And it was a short stint.

35:43Claudia Oshry:I'm saying 20 years the Jonas Brothers should live in Nevada, put their kids in school, Vegas every night.

35:50Jackie Oshry:But when you do that, you have to be okay with like you're now entering like a season of retirement almost. And I think that some of the egos in that group, Nick is so not down. Nick loves like SNL and like, you know, being like swirly. Yeah.

36:02Claudia Oshry:Well, I think that it's.

36:05Jackie Oshry:And Joe is single now. Like they're not doing that. Kevin would do it. That's our stable king right there. No, but he has deep roots like where he lives.

36:13Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Are you ready for our next story, which is some more music news? And I'm glad that people are talking about it because Spotify. Oh, my God. This is fucking disgraceful. And I'm sorry. As partners of Spotify, I love you. But undo what you've done. So they say their disco ball icon, which prompted massive user backlash, will go away next week as planned. Okay, so I assumed that it was like a 50th anniversary. No, I'm sorry. Every time I saw that logo, I thought Spotify was downloading on my phone. Yes, of course. And I'm like, why don't I have Spotify? Not only that, but I assume. I feel like people haven't even noticed.

36:45Claudia Oshry:They like now when we're talking about it, they'll be like, yeah, I saw that. But they didn't even like realize what was happening. I literally had to like get out my magnifying glass to see what the new icon is. And it's like a disco ball, Spotify green ball.

36:56Jackie Oshry:So I also thought it was downloading. And then I saw it was like a special edition logo. And I said, oh, this didn't pass like a user experience test. But I'm like, I'm sure it's some anniversary and will be done tomorrow. And it's been like five days. Far too long for such a poorly constructed logo. I feel like I know nothing about graphic design. I am not, you know, proficient in Photoshop. And this, and you know how many people it took. to get this made, approved, launched. Not one of them said, you know, this is bad.

37:27Claudia Oshry:I didn't know that this was happening. I thought maybe like it only happened to me. What's it in celebration of? Hate has rained down on Spotify's 20th birthday party celebratory disco ball icon. The streamer acknowledged the backlash and said the old 2D logo will return to users' photos, phones next week as previously planned under the temporary icon switch out. So they're saying it was always going to be changed back. It's not just because everybody hates us. Sure. Without warning last week they debuted the glowing green mirror ball icon for the mobile app on Apple's iOS. It was meant to be a fun celebration of the first 20 years connected with Spotify 20.

38:00Claudia Oshry:iOS or iOS? I've never heard anyone say iOS. I read what I saw. Cool. I see iOS. That's like hooked on phonics.

38:10Jackie Oshry:It's hooked on John X. You just start living in your own world.

38:13Claudia Oshry:1000 percent. And I love that. What did I say? iOS?

38:17Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I feel like everybody says iOS. Like when you update to the new iOS, not the new iOS.

38:21Claudia Oshry:Oh, you guys are living in the past. I'm in the future. Absolutely. Spotify appears to not have expected this intense reaction from many of its users about the appearance of the disco ball, with many slamming it as a visual abomination. Yes, it's a disgrace. One person said the person who designed this logo should be fired. Absolutely. By the way, like this is definition of being bad at your job. Yeah. Yeah. And then Spotify said, we know glitter is not for everyone. It's not about the glitter. Oh, my God. Death sliders.

38:48Jackie Oshry:that's honestly I'm living for the statement

38:50Claudia Oshry:I know you guys are ugly and don't have taste so we'll change it our temp glow up and soon your regularly scheduled Spotify icon returns next week whether that was always the plan or not they're acting like this was exactly how they wanted it to go I'm sorry we can't wait that long and let me tell you

39:04Jackie Oshry:it's everywhere because I logged into CarPlay and even on the CarPlay it's the disco ball it looks better there than on the phone because it's bigger but it's still so bad and Ben was like what's that I'm like I can't even talk about it I had no idea that any of this is happening.

39:18Claudia Oshry:I'm so glad that we're talking about it and that we're just shedding light on this national issue. Disgrace. This outrage. Yeah. I'm glad that they know that we hate it. Yeah, despise.

39:28Jackie Oshry:I love being a Spotify partner. Love, but this doesn't change the fact that I have to be honest. It's ugly, go back.

39:34Claudia Oshry:And it's confusing. Worse than ugly, it's confusing. We didn't know it was your birthday.

39:39Jackie Oshry:We rely on you so much. Our favorite podcast, all of our favorite music. I use Spotify like 20 ,000 times a day for Foo, for me, for work. And I'm sorry, the user experience was temporarily sidelined. Fix it, go back. I wonder if it harmed our numbers because people thought their Spotify was downloading. Let's check our analytics for this week. Cut me my check, Spotify.

40:00Claudia Oshry:So all will be right next week.

40:02Jackie Oshry:All will be right next week. My life begins next week.

40:05Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our next story? Which is your genuine nightmare. Oh no, what? So Ryan Gosling was fired from the Lovely Bones movie after gaining 60 pounds for the role. Wait, not only is that my personal nightmare, who was he supposed to play? The dad?

40:19Jackie Oshry:The dad. You know what? Mark Wahlberg like did always feel sort of strangely cast. And I guess it was like a last minute thing. But why? The dad being fat has like nothing to do. Why would he have to gain 60 pounds? He's literally just a suburban dad. And I just want to say, Mark Wahlberg like wasn't even fat in the movie. So it's not a role that required him to be fat. This is what I mean when I say like actors are so drama.

40:37Claudia Oshry:No, imagine gaining 60 pounds for the job that you got and then not having the job. So why did he? So Peter Jackson, the director of Lovely Bones And I'm glad that the Lovely Bones is still being talked about It's the best movie ever He's speaking about it at Cannes Film Festival As he should, seriously, as he should So he's finally weighing in on Ryan Gosling's Infamous recasting in the Lovely Bones Which I didn't even know that was happening He was supposed to pay Swar Shea Ronan's dad Sir Shea Ronan, seriously put some respect

41:02Jackie Oshry:On the Lovely Bones' name Susie, was that her name in the movie? Susie Salmon Yes but revealed Salman. I can't with you like Salman Eos. What did you just pronounce? Swarishay.

41:23Claudia Oshry:Exactly. But Ryan Gosling revealed to Hollywood Reporter in 2010 that he was fired from the movie after he gained 60 pounds for the role without the director's consent.

41:32Jackie Oshry:Oh, OK, that's what I mean.

41:33Claudia Oshry:So, yeah, like why you can't when you get cast for something, unless they tell you, you can't change the way you look like. No, but during a conversation in Cannes, after receiving an honorary award, Peter Jackson was asked about Ryan's revelation and spoke candidly about the decision to drop him from the movie.

41:47Jackie Oshry:I just want to say the reporter who like this guy's getting like a Lifetime Achievement Award and they ask him about this like random movie from 20 years ago. That reporter is a listener. Pulitzer. Yeah, Pulitzer. That's the type of shit we need to hear about. Yeah, like.

41:58Claudia Oshry:So random. I love it. He said, I won't talk about any particular examples of actors because it's a personal private thing and it's not their fault. anytime we recast an actor it's actually our fault because we didn't get the casting right and we cast the wrong person for a role it's not because they did anything wrong so I'm not going to talk about individuals but you just got to realize that what you're imagining isn't really quite happening which means that we got it wrong and so we take full responsibility he said Ryan is a fantastic actor as we know films are chemistry both on camera and behind the camera their chemistry in terms of what the actor conveys to the audience of the film it's just a complicated sort of amalgam of communication of how somebody gets into a group of gels into a group of people into a story, into a character.

42:39Claudia Oshry:It's complicated and usually you try very hard when you're planning the film, casting it, trying to get that gel kind of right. But occasionally we make our own mistakes.

42:46Jackie Oshry:Like this is where I find like people in cinema to be so obnoxious. Like it's very complicated. Like you couldn't understand. It's literally like a movie.

42:53Claudia Oshry:You're pretending.

42:54Jackie Oshry:Yeah, right.

42:55Claudia Oshry:You're all just like a bunch of pretenders and we don't get it. Okay. Ryan had said in 2010 that we had a different idea of how the character should look. I really believed he should be 210 pounds. Why? we didn't talk very much during the pre-production process which was the problem it was yeah you can't go rogue and just change the character like gain 60 pounds because you believe he that he was fat

43:14Jackie Oshry:like and in the book olivia read the book i never read i read the book was he fat like that was so like not the story right like but maybe he couldn't like save his daughter because he i don't know

43:27Claudia Oshry:um he said it was a huge movie and there's so many things to deal with and he couldn't deal with the actors individually i just showed up on set and i had gotten it wrong then i was fat and unemployed literally me um obsessed oh my god it's such a drama swarise ronin on a podcast in 2024

43:41Jackie Oshry:spoke about it no i'm telling you if you've seen the movie it's like all these insanely talented serious actors and then mark walberg like it makes no sense who plays her mom he swarise said

43:54Claudia Oshry:that the cast had already done some prep by the time ryan got fired and she had bonded with ryan i'm sad to see him go of course i mean who wouldn't want to work with mr goss no and also So she was so young, you know? Yeah. So like, that's a bummer. But I'm sure Mark Wahlberg was fantastic. I had no idea this movie had so much drama behind it. Oh, Rachel Wise.

44:14Jackie Oshry:She plays the mother. She's such a, I'm telling you, it's such a, Susan Sarandon, Stanley Tucci, Michael Imperioli

44:20Claudia Oshry:from The Sopranos. Like, I'm telling you, Saoirse Ronan. Saoirse, who went on to be like the biggest thing. It's such a, AJ Michalka? Classic. She must be like one of the friends from school.

44:29Jackie Oshry:Give her her flowers. And then like Mark Wahlberg. he must have been really trying to do like serious work at the time oh yeah Michael Imperioli is like the detective who figures it out but I

44:40Claudia Oshry:I watch some clips of Lovely Bones on Instagram sometimes me too I see them all the time it's one of those and I've seen the scene of like Mark Wahlberg you know like poking around the backyard chilling stuff have you seen the scene of the sister up in Stanley Tucci's attic and she like drops the floor bird and he hears it and she runs out the window yes I have and I didn't find Mark Wahlberg to be like I mean he had like a Farrah Foster. To stick out like a sore thumb.

45:01Jackie Oshry:No, no, no. But if you, like, it's just, he did a good job at the job. But, like, us knowing, it's, like, weird if you know. I guess. Yeah. He was, like, out of character. It was just weird.

45:11Claudia Oshry:Maybe at that time he was trying to be taken seriously as a serious actor. Yeah. And then he was like, this pays no bills. Right. Back to Ted 3. Okay. Are you ready for our fifth and final?

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51:18Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Slash Turt. You're welcome. Our fifth and final story is a little more movie news. Gwyneth Paltrow's daughter, Apple Martin, is making her movie debut in a Nancy Meyers film. So a lot of exciting bits here.

51:29Jackie Oshry:The more exciting part is that we're getting a

51:30Claudia Oshry:Nancy Meyers film. Nancy Meyers film coming out in like 2027 in theaters. Oh, in theaters. Working title is like Paris Paramount. It's actually a semi-autobiographical story of Nancy. And we don't know what role Apple will play, but some of the other big names include Penelope Cruz, Kieran Culkin, Jude Law, Owen Wilson, Tony Hale, and Erin Daugherty. There's a couple of repeats, Nancy. Read them again. Penelope Cruz, Kieran Culkin, Jude Law. Jude Law has done Nancy Meyers The Holiday. Owen Wilson. I think Owen Wilson has. Probably. Yeah.

52:08Jackie Oshry:Tony Hale I love him Buster Buster Blue and also do you think of him more as Buster or as Gary from Veep I feel like these days I actually associated more with Gary from Veep yes but he is so Buster

52:20Claudia Oshry:like I the two come to mind yeah but he's so Buster and also the name is like Buster Blue the Buster is iconic like the name when he like lost his hand yeah um well this is exciting a lot

52:31Jackie Oshry:of pressure I want to say like not only is a Nancy Meyers film like it's they're sort of cultural landmarks for she doesn't make a movie that often it's like I feel like every maybe five or ten years so it's her first one since the intern came out in 2015 that's crazy and so there's a lot of pressure just because the best movie ever they're all the best movie ever like she makes the best movies so there's a lot of pressure because it's that but also like her mom is quinnath paltrow like literally one of the greatest actresses i mean and her grandma blithe danner yeah like i'm sorry the pressure's on like she better she better get to work with a coach like she's gonna to be amazing.

53:04Jackie Oshry:You think?

53:05Claudia Oshry:It's in her blood. Yeah, it's true. She comes from a line of great women. And also just like, look at her. We could just look at her. Yeah. No, no, no. Like, I don't want to just look at her. Like, give me something. She will. She's going to be amazing. And the movie, this is the premise. The movie is about a group of people making a film and the magic and mystery of what we do. So I think the working title at one point was called Paris Paramount. Which I don't like. But I think it was like about the Paramount lot. Yeah. And like making a movie about Paris Paramount. So it should be called like Paris at the Paramount.

53:33Claudia Oshry:But I don't like it. Yeah. No, they're not doing it. Oh, good. Okay. So we know it's about like Paris, Paramount. Paramount, Paris. Owen Wilson just like can't stay away from movies about Paris. Yeah. Or maybe Paris can't stay away from him. That's beautiful. I love Owen Wilson.

53:50Jackie Oshry:I love him too. I really like people. I love all of the Wilsons. I love all of the Wilsons. Like don't sleep on that on Emmett. No. Do not sleep on Emmett. Luke. Luke. the lesser known

54:01Claudia Oshry:but more handsome Wilson yeah no they're both like they're both so successful like we need to talk to their mother I agree they were raised

54:09Jackie Oshry:by a great woman

54:10Claudia Oshry:absolutely we should also start a podcast where we talk to the mothers of great people and not just like people but like siblings you know the Jonas Brothers mother she's definitely but she definitely has her hands full with them absolutely

54:22Jackie Oshry:breaking up fights in the dressing room

54:24Claudia Oshry:they're probably always tattletailing on each other but like I would love to talk to her that actually would be a great Of course, Donna Kelsey. It actually would be a great podcast. Better than namesake, I want to say. So I think we would call it just Mother.

54:38Jackie Oshry:Sweet. That's actually really good.

54:40Claudia Oshry:Don't steal it, you guys. Let us do it, okay? In our own time. We have a lot going on right now. But one day we're going to have time back. Yeah. It's like when you read that book about Winston Churchill's mother. Jenny.

54:50Jackie Oshry:Like, it's obviously interesting to read about a great man. But what's more even interesting is to read about their mother. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes great men are born from evil mothers, too. Of course. Of course. So we won't have the evil ones on.

55:00Claudia Oshry:No, no, no. But I am also interested in like mothers of multiple greats. I mean, Andrea Swift is our first like dream guest. But mothers of multiple greats. Well, yeah, but also mothers of greats. Of greats, yes. But like it's, you did it like more than once. Yeah, yeah. You did it more than once. The Wilson mother. So it's not just the child was incredible. It's like you are the common denominator. The Culkin mom. The Culkin mom. The Hughes brother's mother. Of course. The hockey, she's a hockey player herself. Yeah. I love it. Yeah, it's a good idea. I feel like someone's going to steal it. Don't.

55:32Jackie Oshry:Well, we have proof that we came up with it.

55:34Claudia Oshry:But I guess if someone stole it, it would mean I'm getting the content I wanted. Without having to lift a finger. And I'm getting the interviews and the insights. Yeah.

55:43Jackie Oshry:Meryl Streep. She's got a couple of Nepo kids.

55:46Claudia Oshry:I feel like I'm okay. No, yeah, because she's the famous person. We'd have to talk to her mother. She has Nepo kids. That's different. That's different than creating greatness from nothing.

55:54Jackie Oshry:Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where every Tuesday, Jackie and I try to get back to our community and help out the girls in need. Write into us if you're dealing with anything, deartosters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Today we have two submissions and actually an update from last week. So let's start with the submissions. Hey Jackson Turd, I have a huge problem and I don't think you're gonna believe me. My boyfriend and I have been talking about marriage for a while, but we recently started to seriously discuss engagement, what I would like, what type of ring I want.

56:17Jackie Oshry:While having one of the conversations the other day, my boyfriend dropped a bomb on me. There are two things that I have to agree with before he can even ask me to marry him. My boyfriend comes from generational wealth. The men of his family have been lawyers, judges, some are even politicians. It's almost like being around a royal family. One of the stipulations is signing a prenup, which I have no problem with. But the second thing shocked me. I have to go to their family doctor and get a whole body checkup. I mean, blood work for genetic testing, extensive family medical history questionnaire, even a psychological evaluation.

56:42Jackie Oshry:I was completely unaware that this sort of thing happened in 2026. Is this normal or am I crazy? I don't know if I should marry this man.

56:48Claudia Oshry:Ooh.

56:49Jackie Oshry:I don't like the psych eval. I don't like that this is with their doctor. Like, if you can go to your own doctor and get all the paperwork. Look, I'm not crazy. I don't have, you know, any diseases. Fine. But like it being their doctor and they having like your blood, like I don't know what it is. You clone you.

57:04Claudia Oshry:I feel like if things go south with you guys down the line, they'll like use the psych eval and like they can say whatever they, they can have their doctor evaluate you. They want to be like, this woman's crazy. She shouldn't have custody. Yeah. She shouldn't have like, oh, Jackie's right. So like, I actually think the idea of getting like, you know, a workup with a future partner, like it's so crazy, but like, I can understand that. It's like good to know each other's like health. Right. but I don't like it with their doctor and I don't like the psych of Al. So I would, I would push back, push back on the second.

57:33Claudia Oshry:I'll be like, I'm happy to do all this with my physician.

57:35Jackie Oshry:He's a great guy.

57:36Claudia Oshry:We're like a third party physician,

57:38Jackie Oshry:but not with yours. Yeah. Let's say it's like a non-negotiable. Like, no,

57:44Claudia Oshry:that's really scary. Then you really have to be aware of what you're signing up for. And I do really think that will be like, if things go South ever, it will all be used against you. Yeah. And, but it's like, or would you want to be single? Right. Or like marry someone poor. Or like, or marry into this like, but like if you married into like the royal family, say like, I'm sure there's a lot of crazy shit like that.

58:03Jackie Oshry:Absolutely. So like,

58:04Claudia Oshry:do you want this life or you do not want this life? Think about your future children. And these lives don't come for free, you know? Absolutely not. There's no such thing as like a free royal life. Yeah. And if there was, I would have found it. I would push back and just push for your own doctors. Yeah. Without the same help. And I feel like that's reason, that's actually like very giving of you because you're, you're agreeing to everything.

58:22Jackie Oshry:And if they say no, like that's a red flag for them. Like, why does it matter whose doctor it is? That means they're fudging with the.

58:29Claudia Oshry:And I really don't like a psycho. I don't know why. They just gives me the willies. Are you like, what have you done? They're also fraudulent because they like give fake ones to everybody who goes on reality TV. Crazy people. Psycho. You know, who have done crazy things. Yeah. To prove that they're not crazy. Yeah. Like you're just a sweet girl who wants to marry their son. I would I would push back. I didn't know stuff like that was happening. Much like Cynthia Erivo. It's kind of exciting. Yeah, it is. It is. But like, girl, protect yourself. Yeah. But it is. It has potential to be exciting.

58:56Claudia Oshry:You have to get one for the prenup anyway, but I would ask, try and find a good lawyer. Don't cheap out. This is something you pay for. To explain to you what all of this could mean for you one day, both positive and negative. And also, if you're going to sign a prenup, make it good for you as well. It's not just going to be like, you get nothing, you're out on your ear, bye, loser. You can get stuff in a prenup. Yeah, absolutely. So get a good lawyer. Yes.

59:18Jackie Oshry:And don't do anything without lawyers present. Copper spell burden, don't go against legal advice. Oh, I don't know what that means. I'll find out soon. Copper spell burden. All right, next up. Hey, Swirlies. My best friend from out of town came to stay with my boyfriend and I this weekend and brought her new Prada bag. When we get to the house, she throws her stuff on the ground. We go on a house tour. No more than three minutes later, and what do we find? A few puncture marks in her Prada bag from our cat. I do want to preface this as my boyfriend's cat, and I've always hated it because it ruins plenty of things of mine.

59:45Jackie Oshry:But needless to say, I was so pissed at this damn cat, and obviously it felt horrible for my friend. A few days after she left, she told me there was nothing Prada can do to help the repair, and all they did was send her to a cobbler in New Jersey to try. She didn't seem happy with that option and felt that there was an expectation for us to replace the$4 ,000 bag. I do want to take some responsibility because it happened at my house, but honestly, it was careless of her to leave it on the floor. Even if my boyfriend and I split this expense, I don't think his cat's damages are my responsibility, but I also don't want to leave him with this hefty bill.

1:00:10Jackie Oshry:What's the right call here? Love, a swirly that would rather spend$4 ,000 on her own Prada bag.

1:00:15Claudia Oshry:So this is very awkward. It's terrible. It's very bad. And there's no right thing to do because if you replace the bag, like you're a schmuck. You just bought her a$4 ,000 bag. She has a fine bag, but you fucked it up with the stupid cat.

1:00:30Jackie Oshry:I don't know. Throwing it on the floor, that's an important part of the story. If it was up on a table, absolutely, you kind of have to replace the bag. But throwing it on the floor.

1:00:39Claudia Oshry:You should be able to put your bag on the floor in someone's house without it being. Yeah, no, you should. You're right, you're right. Especially if they don't have kids. It's not a wild animal. It's a domestic cat.

1:00:47Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Well, how much does this friendship mean to you, honestly?

1:00:52Claudia Oshry:and also if um if you do buy her a new bag which i'm not saying that you shouldn't i actually don't think that you should you should get the old one and then you have a little she doesn't get two

1:01:01Jackie Oshry:you get a little banged up prada bag i really don't know yeah i don't know the dynamics of

1:01:07Claudia Oshry:the friendship if this happened how poorly beat up is a bag not usable punctured right a couple of little holes like what's the what's the texture of the bag is it rattan that could withstand is it

1:01:17Jackie Oshry:leather yeah yeah um no i don't think you need to buy her a whole ass new bag like say this

1:01:25Claudia Oshry:happened to you like your friend okay is it um is it my bag or it's my house it's your house and romeo punctured your friend's new prada bag i would buy them a new bag

1:01:37Jackie Oshry:but my financial circumstances allow me to do that not everyone's do yeah it would kill me not very cardboard but also who's the person it depends how much i love this friend. I know. And like I do already hate Romeo. So like yeah. Like yeah. The thing is you have to evaluate the friendship too.

1:01:53Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Like if you're okay with a little awkwardness and like it's like she's always gonna like. She came to stay with you and your boyfriend like you're close. Yeah. She's always gonna be mad at you for this. Then you have to fix it. If you can. It sounds like you can afford to but you just don't really know if you should. Right. Like is it on you? And it's like yeah. And your boyfriend should pay for his wild cat. Oh wait. I'm sorry. It's not your cat. 1000 % your boyfriend has to pay for it but like what if you won't and now you're stuck with like your

1:02:19Jackie Oshry:friend chipping your punctured bag i don't know a boyfriend who like won't buy a prada bag and has a cat doesn't sound like a good boyfriend you have a cat let's talk about that what grown man has a cat alone it's so do you good okay i was like oh god now here i am insulting everyone oh yeah that was like one time in nashville i just say i was really young but we like rented um we like hired this local crew we didn't know anyone there we were doing our show and so we like we did our show in Nashville so we hired like randos and I was I forget how it came up we were talking about journaling it might have even been dear toasters and just oh yeah she was talking about how she read her guy's journal and it said mean things about her can we be mad and Jackie was like no you can't be mad when you read someone's journal like it's their thoughts and then I was also like but also who the fuck journals like what guy journals I was like that's gay or whatever and literally the guy behind the camera was like I journal and I was like okay I was like that's I didn't ask but okay journaling is so evolved no I think actually I was like I mean guys do you journal and one of them was like yeah yeah I asked but how do you feel about it now it's definitely like a mature introspective thing to do it really is it's like so but I just feel like if you're journaling like you're not making money and if you're a man like that's your job so why don't you go be a provider and save the journaling to the girls what if they're making

1:03:38Claudia Oshry:money and they're journaling what if i just don't see how that's possible honestly writing things down takes forever but like what if they don't watch tv and they don't watch sports and then and we're not going to get along if you don't watch tv okay while i admire it i don't know if i would want to be with somebody who journals honestly that's fair to say but like can you yeah so you admire it as do i i don't know if i could like that's just a lot i do think like my

1:04:02Jackie Oshry:journal my verse me my views on it have changed since that immature episode where i thought it It was like a really weird thing to do. But that doesn't mean I want it for my own life.

1:04:11Claudia Oshry:I completely agree.

1:04:13Jackie Oshry:Okay. Now, our third and final submission is actually an update from maybe one or two weeks ago. Remember when we were talking about, and I'll read the submission about the girl who found that like her boyfriend slash husband was saying like, how young are you? Yeah. Okay. So here was the submission. Hey, Swirlies. In classic Dear Twister's fashion, I actually found out my husband was gay while searching through his computer and finding thousands of chats with him and men on Reddit. Think really vile glory hole talks of power topping and meeting up with transgender people. It was wild. the real dark part is that I saw a chat where he asked someone how young are you?

1:04:40Jackie Oshry:Weird, right? As a standard question is how old are you? So unfortunately I didn't see the answer as the rest of the conversation I was trying to take as many screenshots of things on his computer before he came down the stairs. I filed her divorce obviously yes I have an attorney but now I'm concerned that he's also into young children as well as men. Looking for input for my girlies, love a toaster who asks questions. Now we had told her that unless you have children like you need to just make peace. I think we said run like the wind. Yes. I think that was the advice. Unfortunately she has written us back saying yes I have children.

1:05:05Jackie Oshry:Two little girls, two and four. He is actually saying that he's not gay, only bored. Yeah, right. And he's saying how younger he was actually questioned to obtain their age to make sure that they were old enough to chat with. Also, you're right. Obviously, he's a liar at baseline. It's been a year-long custody battle because I live in a state that loves joint custody. We go to court in two weeks. I wish I had enough evidence to send him to federal prison for the pedophilia, but unfortunately, I don't have proof. Hopefully, the DTQ can send positive vibes and prayers to me and my girlies, and he gets what he deserves.

1:05:31Jackie Oshry:Thanks for reading my submission. It buoyed me and made me cackle on a dark day. Oh, gosh. I'm so sorry. Like this is darker than I thought it was going to be. I just feel like whatever the court decides, like this is not our business. Like you should take the kids and move out of state.

1:05:43Claudia Oshry:Like then she's like obstruction of kidnapping. I don't know. So fucked that you can have like this creepy. Like pedophilic question, you know, even remotely a question. And it's like joint custody when you have a mother who wants full custody and like is sound of mind. I actually feel like just like talking to like sexually to people on Reddit is very time consuming.

1:06:05Jackie Oshry:and he actually might not end up using all of his custody.

1:06:07Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Because it will get in the way. People want joint custody. They want to fight for it and they want to punish you, but they don't actually want kids half the time. Men. Men always want joint custody just to hurt the moms.

1:06:16Jackie Oshry:Yeah. And then when it comes time, it's like, oh, I have to do bed, bath, bottle. Never mind. I'll pick him up next week. So I have faith that he's just doing this to hurt you. Great. Let him. The kids will be with you. Yeah. Give him a lot of red 40 before they get picked up. Give him a lot of red 40. Give him a lot of sugar. like kind of make them hand them over to him at like five o 'clock like the worst hours of the day. He'll get tired in a couple of weeks. Yeah. I'm really sorry. Like that's awful. That really made me sick. Yeah. But we love you. Yeah, we do.

1:06:46Claudia Oshry:And just like get a great lawyer who can drill home the fact that he is likely a sexual predator. Yeah.

1:06:52Jackie Oshry:Screenshots, screenshots, receipts, proof, timeline. Even if you don't think it'll work like there's now a record of it in court that if anything were to happen like you could say I told you so and that'll help your case. So definitely even though you don't think it's going to like move the needle, include it regardless. Yeah. Sorry that that happened to you. Thanks for emailing us with an update. Thanks to everybody who wrote in, deartosters at gmail.com is the email. And if you ever want to write in on our website, it's thetoastpodcast.com. That is our show. Happy Tuesday. Thank you so much for listening to The Toast, the Monday morning show, where we deliver the fast five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube.

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1:07:32Claudia Oshry:Love ya. Bye.