Season 8 (And Left No Crumbs): Monday, January 6th, 2025

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32:34She said, it's weird. It's very weird. I wasn't expecting this. Obviously, when we first started dating, you don't think, oh, what will happen? Will we get married? Will we not? You're just kind of like in this relationship. She didn't reveal what caused the breakup, but hinted that there wasn't strife. She, you know, went on and on about how he's such a good person. He was such a good boyfriend. Like, she has only wonderful things to say about him, but it just doesn't work out. And I think for people who have been following their relationship and watching both shows especially this most recent episode of southern charm weirdly was very craig and page heavy yeah um i think it's like pretty clear what has happened here everyone was like waiting for them to move in together and take the next step in their relationship but like their lives are just in different places and neither one of them can or wants to budge move and budge and and you can make the case for either one why Craig needs to be in Charleston and why Paige needs to be in New York and so without that then you can't move forward you can't get engaged if you don't live together and you can't live together if you can't commit to one city so I just feel like you know they realize that and also their timelines might not be exactly the same and and as he gets older like that is probably something that he's thinking of yeah like he has made it abundantly clear that like getting married having kids is something he wants to do like imminently and I think he knew that Paige was a girl he wanted to do it with and he loved her so much and he was willing to wait for her to be ready and I think she like appreciated that space she gave him and then it got to a point where like either it was like kind of shit or get off the pot for Craig or she had a realization that like this is not how she you know wants to to go out this is not the life that she envisioned for herself so when the news itself was so shocking but if you've been paying attention like it wasn't a perfect relationship for this one kind of big reason and it was this unsolved thing for so long and we just I just thought I'm like they're gonna figure it out like they'll figure it out they'll figure it out and actually they didn't and Paige like spoke a lot about how like you know making that decision at 32 and like the life that you thought you'd have for yourself with like marriage and kids like the biological clock the societal pressures like she she was sort of just like fuck it and I like I seriously am so upset like I love these two no I know I'm so upset and I feel like in the beginning I was always like well Paige will move to Charleston and like whenever Paige is ready to do that then they'll do that but then like the last year or so like Craig was spending so much more time in New York and also on Watch What Happens Live like people were asked who do you think will move and everyone was saying like Craig is going to move to New York so I'm like okay well Craig is going to move to New York and I guess he just can't and he just opened a bar I know he's like a partner in a bar now in Charleston obviously the show is in Charleston sewing down south is based in Charleston like he really can't move so I think up until this point people assumed Paige would move because like her job and her life is very like it's what we do you could really do it from anywhere now obviously being in New York you're afforded so many opportunities and I think she also just loves living in New York and she shouldn't have to give that up because she doesn't want to but the assumption that she would move was just because like between their jobs like she only has to be in New York technically for like eight weeks in the summer technically yeah but she's also expressed that she wants to be close to her family she cried on summer house talking about the idea of leaving her mom like just is so upsetting to her but the reason why this is so shocking is because I feel like these are two people who like really really not only love each other but like each other and like I feel like the absence of one another from each other's lives like I actually not to sound like in denial I can see them getting back together just being like life isn't worth it you know like whatever it is they'll make it work because I feel like how do you go from having like this best friend and like they liked each other a lot of couples like don't even like each other they love each other but they don't like each other like they really like they talk all the time like they were together most days of the week they really made it work like yeah I feel like they're really gonna miss each other i hope so that's a good perspective now right the internet like quickly ran with rumors that like page cheated on him they said she was spotted out on new year's eve celebrating with marcello hernandez snl like seriously i don't believe any of it like page no say we want about page but she's actually like very like um she like not all the time but she's like a deeply she's a deep person right and you don't just like go from like a three-year relationship to like out and people like are like there was no proof of any of it no pictures no nothing people are so annoying like let the girl live and really she's definitely like mourning this relationship now not to make everything about me but you know like I was kind of involved like actually not at all like not that's that's an overstatement but over the Christmas break I was getting tagged in a million TikToks I'm like what's going on what's going on and it was actually about Ben so yes on the last episode of the year for good guys I don't know what what they were even talking about I don't know why Ben brought up Craig but you know Ben and Craig are really good friends um Craig is an investor, like an ambassador for Spritz.

37:10So he was talking about Paige and Craig. I don't know in what capacity and what context. And he just referred to Craig as Paige's soon-to-be hubby. And everybody was like, they're engaged. Oh, BSC confirmed it. Claudia's totally going to kill Ben for spilling the secret. Like implying that Ben had some sort of insider knowledge from Craig about these two, you know, proposing and getting engaged. And he accidentally spilled the beans. And not only was that not the case, but I guess they were literally broken up. And I did actually like film a TikTok being like, cause I felt bad. Like I feel like Paige gets like for years, they're engaged, they're like all these like fake rumors about her.

37:46And it's probably so fucking annoying. And I felt really bad because Ben just talks weird. Ben just says stuff. Like I can't explain it. He knew nothing. When my friend is dating someone for a long time, I call them the heir husband. Yeah. Ben just like talks weird. I never, like I guess if I said, to say it on the show with two people that people are really reading into, Like, yeah, I understand how people arrived at that conclusion. But also just know, like, it could also just be that there's nothing, like, leading in what he's saying. There was nothing nefarious. Ben knew nothing. Ben just talks weird.

38:18Like, he just is weird. I can't explain it in any other way. And, oh, my God, they ran with him. He said, soon to be hubby. Yeah. Which literally sounds like you know two people got engaged. Like, it's crazy. And also, it takes more breaths to say that than it is to just say, Paige is hubby or Paige is boyfriend. Yeah. No, no. And when I asked him about it, he was like, what do you mean? Like, it's not weird. I'm like, he didn't even get it. I'm like, you're so annoying. And so I felt so bad. And I was like, it's probably the most annoying thing. This is like kind of plagued both Paige and Craig for years.

38:48And now this is like a legitimate thing people are reading into. And then it turns out they're literally broken up. I was shocked. And I didn't know they were broken up until I found out with everybody else. Like, I was shocked. Yeah, me too. I also like love that they released like an audio only December 30th. Nobody releases podcast episodes after Christmas. Like, it's, like, a dead zone for media. There's no new episodes of anything. So I like that they kind of buried it. Like, seriously, like, it's probably hard. They couldn't. Of course not. Of course not. But as much as they wanted, like, could have.

39:14I think it was also a Friday. Yeah, that was, like, Zach Bryan and the election. Like, you cannot bury this. Some things are too big. Right. I'm devastated. Or maybe they thought that, like, by the time, like, the new year picks up, like, today, like, we would have moved on. But, like, we can't. Hell, I'm still at the restaurant. and I also feel like we will get to a place where we as people of course they're already there probably where we are like this was sort of the best like this is what needed to happen they'll go on and do great things and hopefully find love and find joy but until like they're like today just saying like sad and southern charm this week was so crazy because I know like it was a lot about like Craig changing Austin being like when we get to the bar buddy and like classic Craig's like I'm almost 40 that's why craig froze his sperm he talks about um his relationship with page and freezing your sperm he froze his sperm because he had this fear of something happening to him where he could no longer have kids like i feel like that's not like a concern for men it's more so like you can have no there are men out here getting women pregnant robert de niro yes it was more so like of a freak thing happening where he could no longer so he froze kind of like an intrusive thought yeah yeah but it's like okay it's freezing pop off literally um and he's talking about you know the timetable and how where he thought he'd be but he fell in love with page and you know it just really i feel like if you want to know why they broke up like it's that like they they thought that they could uh surmount these really big things and they're kind of insurmountable yes but also and i think like the sad truth here and this is probably something they came to the realization too is that while there are so many things that keep you tied to a city at the end of the day the person you marry should be bigger than all of that like they should be more important yeah I like my life is in New York but if Ben said we're moving to Alaska like we're moving to Alaska like right and so if you can't even conceive giving all of that up for the person then that's not your person and that's yeah that's probably like the saddest part of all this they had to come to that realization because yes I think it was understood that Paige would move but like Craig wasn't out here offering like so for both of them like it wasn't yeah it wasn't the other one and beyond that like New York or Charleston are not even Alaska like you can do they really could do what they were doing there's and they've been managing to make this like bi-coastal whatever you want to call it relationship work on it's so easy to get to Charleston from New York and New York to Charleston they could have lived in both places they could have done it together but the fact that they actively chose not to I think is speaks to why we're here but then it's like and I've realized this recently about me and you because we have so we have such different ideas of like what our dream life looks like like in terms of like a home yep and like what if there are two people who are like that like where do if you and I were married where would we live it's an amazing question well I'm like I'm a steamroller we would live where I want to live because i know but like i would not be happy living in a city yeah that's so true so maybe they're just like a jackson a clod when it comes to like how like your idea what there are other cities that are like hybrids of both like i'm just saying if that person is your person like you figure it out like if me there are such different ideas like we would move to nashville like we would figure it out by the way we could agree on nashville that's what we would that's the only thing and if nashville had a thriving jewish community like we would all be living there today a hundred percent don't come for me i know there are jews i'm just saying it's not like a thriving big community lots of shuls and and lots of kosher meats and lots of schools like yeah trust us we've looked um but then okay say we're moving to nashville not to make craig craig and craig about craig and pedge like would you be happy in franklin yes oh my god would i be happy in franklin all the celebrities live there okay okay so i just don't think we can afford what we want but maybe page and craig needed to move to franklin i think moving to franklin would work like self like solve a lot of problems for a lot of different people i agree save a lot of relationships that's what i think yeah i'm so upset but i all like i do understand i'm upset i understand however i'm finding like the hope and the joy and thinking about like their futures separately.

43:39Craig will be engaged in a year. I know everyone's saying that. This is a man who really wants, and by the way, I think that if the roles were reversed and it was the woman who didn't want to give up or sacrifice marriage and children, we would all empower that and agree and champion her. And I think that while the roles are reversed, usually it's the other way. It's the woman who's worried about the clock. It's the Scott is sick, it's Shep. and I know like bring back to Charleston like I think both of their decisions like are brave and and deserve like Paige choosing herself and like her career like that's commendable and Craig like not willing to budge on these like big things that really mattered him that's also so valid and so real and like I champion that too yes also Craig is a few years older than Paige and those few years are very critical in life and also in this situation because he's nearing 40 and he like wants to be yeah yes men can be dads whenever but he wants 40 is time a dad in this time and page still has like a few years before she's there and feeling that way and i just i feel like three years was the max they could give it you know the longest they could stretch it's like shit or get off the pot that's sort of energy and it happens every day in relationships all the time it does it's really sad it really is yeah because it's kind of like right person wrong time however I think what I'm coming to terms with is that it might not be right person like because if it was like you're willing to move mountains to do anything yeah we need to be together in any time in any place yeah so rip pour one out for these two thanks for the memories they were pargy such I also feel like Paige is like a little bit like like eclipsing Bravo sometimes I like remember she's on Summer House I'm like why like she's such a I don't even know what to call her she's a star she's like a socialite now her podcast is super popular but she's like a huge fashion girl she's a very successful influencer like she's just kind of like a Carrie Bradshaw of our time and I don't know I feel like when she goes to Bravo Con I'm like girl I'm sorry for you like it was a great stepping stone for her to get here but I do feel like she's kind of outgrown it especially that particular show like what are you doing with Kyle like let's see what happens this season I do agree with you I'm like if she didn't if she didn't go back on summer house like her life would not change whatsoever in fact her summers would be freed up she could go to Europe you know she needs to be like a vote contributor like all like seriously I just think there's endless potential for her she's so beautiful she's so funny like she actually has that personality that most girls who are that pretty sort of like rest on their laurels they don't have to be so it's dazzling she really is just like diamond of the season yes I agree for other brothers bravo stars bravo con is like the biggest thing in their year like for her to drag it's literally like something she probably dreads and by the way I don't know any of this to be true it's just like how I perceive it oh yeah yeah I just think she's kind of like too good for it like when you think of her accolades like reality star is like fifth on the list and it's like doesn't it just doesn't feel like any more like thank you for giving us page but like you have to let her go now bravo yeah set her free yeah no it's it's very true but anyways like excited to see what she does next especially as like now she's she's sat she's focused on page she's not going to charleston every other week dates like she's so pretty like of course but obviously i don't want to go there obviously i'm like so like right it's still too raw for both of like yeah because but i'm but i'm excited to see i just feel like we can't talk that way like yet i feel like we can't yeah no we can't it's so disrespectful and rude yeah are you ready for our next story let me pull up speaking of disrespectful and rude justin baldoni is filing a 250 million dollar lawsuit against the new york times over the blake lively story so while we were off if you're a patreon you're all caught up but while we were off blake lively filed a lawsuit against justin wayfarer studios pr and new york times they had the exclusive it's like him and nine other complaints he's like suing on behalf of Melissa Nathan, the publicist, Jennifer Abel, the publicist.

47:53It's a bunch of people who were named in the original complaint that was published in the New York Times. They're all suing together. So I guess that means they're like splitting the bill for the lawyers. Yes, and they are suing the New York Times. They wrote a 4 ,000-word piece titled We Can Bury Anyone, and it showed how Justin and his team buried Blake and everything that happened this summer. So Turdy and I, of course, felt so vindicated. You have to read everything that's in there before we get into all of this, but I feel like everyone is caught up. So that's where we were at. And if you were looking for our thoughts on just the Blake Lively up until that point, we did a whole podcast episode about it on Patreon over the winter break, because there was so much to dive into so many like really abhorrent allegations.

48:29And I thought her complaint really colored in the timeline of events in a chronological sense with that, like the SAG after break. So the internet sort of swung back completely once Blake filed her complaint, because how could you not? And so many celebrities were speaking out. and then like a couple of days later maybe like a week later Justin Baldoni filed this lawsuit and now everyone has swung back yes also Justin like was dropped by WME which was his agency and also Blake's agency but beyond that what other retribution did you see his podcast host left the podcast which by the way we need to add that to the list of things booing us that we need to no no no no I can't hang anything on this person who left his podcast who podcasted with him for so many years and championed him as a male feminist and then the minute like things got went south for him she left like so were you lying that whole time or you didn't know who your podcast host was or you're just going you're going with the tides like i need clarification that was where we left the patreon too like okay unscrupled but that's also like is that not your boy for me that's a big pillar in this story uh of things i want to be surprised if she comes back to the show now like this girl goes we're back with justin i'm back on the pod so it literally was really wild to see public opinion completely shift I think a lot of people begrudgingly supported Blake Lively when she released her complaint because how could you not the things she was alleging were really so fucking disgusting um and this was a person everyone was so quick and easy and happy to destroy a couple of months ago and the fact that they sort of had to take her side a couple of weeks ago I think was hard for a lot of people they're just jealous like she's this perfect you know skinny blonde rich you know married to Ryan Reynolds like she's easy to hate and she's obviously doesn't seem like the best you know most kind like compassionate personality because what she said to then the flaw of it all yeah no she definitely is like kind of a wench for sure not a crime but obviously not the type of person you'd like choose to hang out with and champion so it was really um i think hard for people to have to take her side and then justin baldoni came out with this lawsuit and people were so happy to sort of cling on to it to be back on team justin and basically the the overwhelming consensus is like everyone's back on team justin now because so much of what he shared and he has his own text messages his own proof um and so much of that completely contradicts what Blake is saying in her complaint according to people on the internet and I'm here to say like my thesis of today that could not be further from the truth I have read a lot of the um his is a lawsuit hers is a complaint yeah and by the way a lot of people are like well if Blake was really the victim she would have sued well the thing is and I saw a lawyer explain this because people don't know anything so you're just like making stuff up like why didn't Blake sue well better you know the law Blake is suing in like a because he's her employer it's like an employment lawsuit and in order to do that you have to get approved to sue and in order to get approved to sue you have to file a complaint the court has 60 days to approve or deny you the right to sue so that's what she's doing that's why she didn't sue that's why she has a complaint it's step one in her lawsuit and then he sued so everyone's like look he can sue so he's right actually she was taking the proper legal steps also he's filing a lawsuit against the New York Times over the story that they wrote because they say that that story does not have the whole story so he's rebutting a couple of those like heinous accusations that we stayed in and this is this is just inside so the accusation that he repeatedly entered her makeup trailer uninvited while she was undressed including while she was breastfeeding he um he said that he like she pumped a lot breastfed in meetings and he invited her into her trailer when she was pumping in the past.

51:58So any like disability that he had into her breastfeeding and pumping, like was, she was, that was what was happening. And the screenshot that's sort of, sort of taken the internet by storm is a text message from Blake to Justin basically saying they needed to meet about something. She was like, hey, I'm pumping in my trailer. Come on in. Yeah, I'm pumping in my trailer. If you want to work out our lines, he responded, copy eating with crew and we'll head that way. So everybody says that this screenshot completely contradicts what Blake said. Blake said that he was entering when she was breastfeeding and pumping.

52:24And look, here's literally proof that she invited him in. So to be clear, because I understand the English language, this in no way screenshot contradicts what Blake said. First of all, just because you've been invited in one time does not give you unfettered access to my breasts and my trailer, first of all. Second of all, the difference between pumping and breastfeeding, and I don't even, I have never done either, but even I know, like breastfeeding, your titties out. Pumping, you put the things on your nipples and you can go for a walk. Like you can do anything. So they're so different. So inviting someone in while you're pumping is not the same.

52:53Breastfeeding in a public place, like say she was breastfeeding in a meeting, So it's like, oh, she had her titty out. Like you can. That's funny. You're consenting. No, but also whether or not she had her boob out, like you can breast, you can know you're breastfeeding in public and, and do it in a way that's covered up. But when you're breastfeeding in private, like you don't care that you're out. So like someone walking in on you breastfeeding in private is not going to look the same as you knowingly doing it in public. No, it's so true. I feel like a lot of women with like newborn babies who travel, they breastfeed on airplanes and there's like, you put that little thing over.

53:20Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, you can breastfeed in public. People breastfeed in public all the time. and more often than not, the way you breastfeed in public looks different than private. Of course. And just because you've been invited in one time to see while she was pumping does not give you unfettered access. Like you are still A, a coworker, B, a male coworker and C, her boss. Like everybody being like, oh, look, Blake's a liar. Like, are you thick in the head? No, actually, this does not contradict at all. And I don't care how open, let's say Blake was one of those women who didn't give a fuck.

53:51Tits out, nipples out. you still as the director as the boss as her co-worker and as a man you still have to act with the utmost knock five times i want you to knock five times you still have to act i don't care how blake and i don't even think blake was that type of breastfeeder but even if she was like you still have to act with some sort of decorum yeah so all in all the lawsuit states that it was blake who allegedly embarked on a strategic and manipulative smear campaign using false sexual harassment allegations to assert unilateral control over every aspect of the production the lawsuit also accuses her husband ryle reynolds of allegedly berating justin during a heated meeting at their tribeca penthouse in new york in which she accused the director of fat shaming his wife so basically what he's saying is that like there was this and by the way just by the way before this lawsuit or anything there was like a little bit of whispers about blake and ryan one of the first things that came out was justin inquiring a lot about blake's weight that was the first thing we had heard so i believe i believe this yes and i think what justin would say that he had like a back thing and so he says he was only inquiring because he has like a hernia and he has to lift Blake and kiss her so he needs to know exactly how much this woman weighs to and you know what if you have to ask you can't lift her so why don't you just say I am not strong enough and let's cut that scene you're the director right then we didn't need a lift this isn't dirty dancing we didn't need seriously if your job requires you to ask a woman what she weighs like unless you're the doctor you're in the long like that's just not what we're gonna do especially given the context she just had a baby and like she's you cast her for this role you see her you see what they entail you're the fucking director you cast her it's not like she's got like lead in her feet weight that you can't see like use your eyes oh my god funny funny that's funny yeah lead shoes she should have that would have been funny um okay for me the biggest part of this story and so many people like this is their big thing about with the lawsuit is that like really he has disproven everything when it comes to the intimacy coordinator and so I'm gonna read for my notes I watched an amazing video um from like an intimacy coordinator expert I just want to shout her out because I'm like about to literally copy everything she said um it's like a nice long 10 minute video her name is Brenna Perez okay so So Blake has said that there wasn't an intimacy coordinator present.

56:12She said that in interviews. And I think she alleges it in her complaint as well. And Justin, you know, shows proof. Like, what are you talking about? We had an intimacy coordinator. But if you actually, so that looks like a contradiction, right? Blake's lying. But if you actually read, Justin actually corroborates a lot of what Blake is saying. So after the SAG-AFSTRA break, Blake had demanded that there be an intimacy coordinator on set at all times. Usually an intimacy coordinator just shows up on the days where we're fucking, you know? They don't need to be around all the time. But because Justin had this obsession with adding in kisses and adding in sex scenes that weren't previously agreed to, Blake said, listen, if you're going to do that, I want an intimacy coordinator on set every single day because who knows when you're going to start kissing me.

56:51And she's totally valid in that. And what I didn't realize that this girl explained in the video was when you sign on to a project, every intimate scene, literally every kiss, but mostly the sexy scenes, are agreed upon contractually before. So if you do want to add, sometimes it happens it complicates things but it has to be agreed upon but it's like you can't just go around like adding in an ass grab you know it's not improv like these things because of SAG and they have these rules in place are to protect actors and actresses so you can't just go around adding stuff so the fact that Blake alleges that Justin really wanted to add stuff like complicates things a lot so him saying that there was a coordinator on set is you know not untrue but it's half true because if you're kissing her on days when the lady's not there who does that help right so

57:37After the SAG-AFTRA break, they had agreed to have the coordinator on set full time. So Justin is like, she was there full time. What are you talking about? And he shares a text message. Not only was she there, but I actually tried to coordinate a meeting between her and Blake and Blake said no. So you read the text messages and they're coming off the break. So I think they're about to be back. And he says, by the way, I found an amazing coordinator. So first of all, it's a coordinator who he found. I'd love to set up a meeting off set. Like not while they're on set. Like I'd love to set up a meeting.

58:07And Blake's like, no, I'm good. I'll meet her when we're back on set first day. So look, Blake's being difficult. I don't know that she necessarily wanted to meet your coordinator. Like how do we know she's legit? After this SAG-AFTRA break where this list of 30 things we agreed on, you've been showing me pornographic videos, your producing partner is a freak, all these things. Like you add kissing scenes. I don't know that I want to meet off camera. I mean, excuse me, off set with you and your intimacy coordinator. So it's like, look, Blake's being difficult to work with. But then also the really interesting thing is Blake, I mean, Justin alleges in his lawsuit that he wasn't adding all these sexy scenes.

58:44It was the intimacy coordinator's idea. Now, that is not the job of an intimacy coordinator. That's, like, actually really weird. So if that's true, like. Why more work for her? No, but let's say that's true. More hours. You hired a freaky ass intimacy coordinator because that's not her job. Why the fuck would Blake want to meet this person? Right. And let's say it's not true. You're the one adding those things and you're a freak. But now we understand why Blake said no to meeting with his intimacy coordinator. so she's putting forth all these sexy ideas that you didn't agree to and that's not your job it's not your job to meet with the intimacy coordinator offset like you come up to work you show you're not the director like you are an actor you show up and do your job so so much of what he said especially about the intimacy coordinator actually validates Blake's complaint I don't know what people are talking about like dead ass yeah also then the situation so there's all these like things that happened disputes but then there's also this larger thing of like there were two different cuts of the movie Blake like made her own movie and like I just think that the disputes like they go so like the they could go back and forth all day and also like Blake's alleging like sexual harassment I think Justin is saying like those things were in sexual harassment and then like people are like aren't you the male feminist like how are you going to tell a woman like what sexual like it's so messy it is so messy there are a lot of things in the complaint that don't personally interest me like it's a lot of he said no no but I'm gonna say it's a lot of he said she said it's not illegal to have two different cuts of a movie.

1:00:05Like, does that make Blake look difficult? No, no, no, no, no. Sure. But like, when it comes down to like the actual allegations, that interests me more than like, well, Blake said I had my cut and Justin said I had my cut. I don't give a fuck. No, I know it doesn't interest us, but like they are germane to the whole story. So I'm just saying like the whole story is so much bigger. And then in this complaint, Justin is saying that Blake was going to, you know, come out with these sexual harassment allegations. That's why he hired that PR firm that then - Grassroots. grassroots did all that now he looks bad for doing that but you know he's like well she was gonna do it to me so it's like him or her but you did the thing first right like you being afraid of retribution for something you actually did like that's called crime and punishment okay right no no I have not changed my side even in the slightest no no me neither but now I go the pendulum swing back to like the original I feel like it's just like when people are choosing sides like they're choosing a difference of like the two personalities some people just like want Justin Baldoni to be this like male hero that they know and they think he's hot and they like see all this shit that he says and does and they're like oh I love and like for me that's just like not my not for me that's not how I see Justin Baldoni his like charms have not worked on me right so I think these are like two people who were not going to get along who were in like a really crazy environment where they're having to like do all these things they're both have their own things that they're worried about him and his back her and her breastfeeding and it's a recipe for fucking disaster and it doesn't change how I see the situation because what they did to her with all the media campaign and offset and offset like yeah I don't know I will like if if let's say you know the truth comes out and Blake concoct I will never really I won't look back and regret having believed her like what she first of all there is a lot of proof that supports her claims or a lot of people who support her claims.

1:01:59And her claims are really disturbing. Not only like the astroturfing, which is now something we all know about and should be really conscious of. Which by the way, thanks for, I'm glad that we know that. I'm glad to know that. And he's not denying that by the way, which is even crazier. But the fact that all of the things between the birthing scene and the adding sexual scenes and being really inappropriate from this so-called male feminist, like, I don't know, I'm sorry. I believe Blake, I really do. and yeah she's probably a bitch like do i i don't give a fuck right like doesn't mean that you had to like you hired she's an a-list actress like you wanted the biggest name in romantic comedy diva diva diva that's what you got yeah i like i'm sorry and this is not the time to talk about thanks for ruining our favorite fucking book because now this book is ruined the movie is ruined i never saw the movie and i'm never going to because how could i even watch the movie what are we doing with the sequel well there is no sequel it's over you guys ruined it let's see ever gets another movie in her life yeah what a mess and the thing is like nobody sometimes things are like dramatic and like uh don't worry darling where it's like helps the hype of the movie but like nobody wants to touch this apparently like even at the golden globes one it should have been nominated for best blockbuster box office and cinematic achievement and they should have been there and i think blake and ryan were gonna go to the golden globes and then didn't like this thing is so messy and nikki glozier said she wouldn't even joke about it because nobody nobody even knows like what is true who's the villain like it's just a mess you guys ruined the fun for everyone we were so excited about this movie we've been talking about it for years and this is where we ended up I and I think as far as ruining the movie like I blame him he was yeah the director he was the star he casted it up until this point I stand by everything I've said and if I'm wrong then so be it I really don't think I'm wrong I'm not and I'm not I'm not not changing my opinion because I don't want to have said I admit I was wrong all the time remember when I thought Travis Kelsey was never even going to close to Taylor Swift.

1:03:55Like I can admit when I'm wrong. I am even more certain that Justin Baldoni is a bad faith actor. And this, like now the two suits for me kind of like knock each other out. And I go back to how I felt, not entirely, but I'm just like back to how I felt in the summer where it's like, I just, I'm with her. I'm with her. Everything she said in her complaint shook, like really genuinely shook me to my core. Like as a, as a woman yeah and everything in his complaint whiny little bitch you're not denying the astro turfing you're not denying that meeting you had during the sag astra strike coming to terms and agreeing on 30 things you're going to stop doing you actually admitted that in your suit you admitted to not having an intimacy coordinator on set all the time which you should have if you're adding in sex scenes so you admitted in that they're like they're he's literally admitting guilt i don't know what the hell people are reading like I am I'm sad like I I will be here my opinion has not changed and and if your opinion has like you obviously haven't read it or be you didn't really want to believe Blake before and now you have a reason not to I feel like for people like his lawsuit counters her lawsuit and kind of explains every charge that they felt like they needed to be mad about so then they also go back to how they were feeling this summer and they're with him yeah but if you actually read it it does not contradict hers at all if anything it supports a lot of her claims and corroborates her timeline yeah it's crazy yeah so I'm sad so our next story golden globes oh I'm so many golden globes I know and it's brought to you by good ranchers as a new as we welcome the new year it's time to focus on what matters most creating healthier habits enjoying more moments with family and spending less money on going out to eat good ranchers.com is here to help you turn those resolutions into solutions by shopping with good ranchers you're supporting local farms across the United States, and you're avoiding the chaos of grocery store imports.

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1:08:53It's really been lack of opportunity. But anytime she gets hired for something like she fucking crushes it. And I think a lot of people saw that with the Tom Brady roast. And that's largely why she got this gig um it's the first time a woman has ever hosted solo so there was a lot of pressure the fact that like there's so many successful female comedians but we're rotating the jimmies like how has a woman never done oh but the one time they gave it to a woman they had to give it three women amy schumer remember she did with two other women by the way i'd be fine if they rotated the jimmies and it was good you know and it was great and it was great but it's not been and so it was nikki glazer's turn and i think there was even more eyes because of the joe coy of it all last year like which really was floppy oh oh my god i forgot about that and that was the same thing I remember saying how disappointing it was like one because it just wasn't funny but two because like this is a comedian who's not huge right so this is a global platform like it would have been such an amazing opportunity if he had crushed it and it sucks that he didn't it sucks for him and it kind of hurts people who aren't the biggest comedians to ever do it again they're not going to take a chance on someone and they did even though Nikki Glaser's like not really taking a chance she's the biggest female comedian right now no but that's that's in comparison to like Kevin Hart right so to see her absolutely crush like I the thing is I would have liked it regardless because I happen to really like her she's been on the show she's incredibly nice you might have been biased in your review however this is not biased no and like I have such I really only have positive things to say about Nikki Glaser like having like met her in person and she's been so nice to me like she anytime I've been in a room with her she's been like the most famous person in the room like a lot of other female comics and she's always the nicest one And like, she, I just, I can't say enough good things about her.

1:10:25And then she came on our show, like right after the Tom Brady roast. Like she could have canceled. Cause like she was having this moment. She was on, you know, every show in America. And she came on the toast. Like, I just, I fucking love her. So I would have, I would have loved it regardless. But let me tell you, I laughed. She crushed. Oh, did I laugh. Ben was dying. The Sandler Chalamet thing was his favorite. We were laughing so hard. And by the way, I need to thank her for that. We got so much Kylie because she gave us so much Timothy. And I thought that bit with Adam Sandler and Timothy was just like funny.

1:10:53It's like, we're not making fun of everyone. Like, it's just a funny moment. People really struggle between like being so soft and not saying anything. And then also you could go like, you know, I'm going to rip into everyone in this room, which is going to kill. And if you're funny about it, but like to find the medium where it's like, we're going to talk about everything and also be funny while not like being nasty. She was so good, but also talking about certain elephants in the room, roasting the celebrities at large. I loved when she said like, we could be living through history. Like we could be watching these clips in five days being like, they got the guy.

1:11:22It's so true. And I think that was her greatest skill was the way she told the line of, you know, mock that we're mocking these people and not, I would say there's literally only one person who can successfully do like a full roast and that's Ricky Gervais. Right. And then you go too soft and you're not funny. So I think her balance of like, you know, pointing out like a lot of the hypocrisy in the room, these like fancy artists, storytellers, like people, it was so brilliant. while also like being funny. Like it was just, the thing is, I don't care what you do. If you make me laugh, that's literally all I care about.

1:11:54She was brilliant. There were so many jokes that were so funny. Two-time Holocaust survivor, Adrienne Brody, like actually killed me. Like so funny and like, yeah, a little edgy, but not offensive. No, not at all. Her saying Betty Blanca was here because of the genie who granted him that wish. Like so funny. So funny. Like she just, and she was so well rehearsed and I heard her, she was being interviewed by Zuri Hall and she was like, I practiced the monologue, I counted 96 times. And she's like, I know people are gonna be like, well, it's scripted, it's scripted. She's like, no, I just wanna be comfortable enough that like I can riff and also not be like reading straight from the teleprompter.

1:12:26Hello, welcome to the Golden Globes. And I felt that, I felt her sense of comfort. Like she knew what the joke was gonna be and then you saw her like not looking at the teleprompter, riffing on her own joke. Like she was brilliant. Like she made me so, like she made me laugh so hard. She made me, I just, I fucking loved it. No, and she could also tell she was so comfortable. She like didn't care if the people in the room were going to find her funny, which I think they, I don't even know if they did because I wasn't paying attention to them either. Like it was like, she knew she was talking, like working for us, the viewer, like she was joking for us.

1:12:55You know, she wasn't like, like Joe Coy, like you're going to laugh or tough crowd. Like she was literally ignoring everyone in the room, which is the most important room in, in her field. And just really catering to the viewers at home. And you could tell she felt really comfortable. She felt like so cool like it was like cool girl comedy relaxed no by the way that's an amazing point because the job is hard because you're obviously performing stand-up in a room full of like a thousand people but it's like those a thousand people literally do not matter it's the people at home and joe coy's big fault was like him making jokes and it didn't get huge laughs in the room so if you were doing that in a comedy club you'd be like what's wrong with you guys and he was doing it and it's like no stop like that's not the point right well also it's like in this moment the a thousand people in the room don't matter you're playing to us but those people matter for your career So like you have to toe that line too of not pissing them off.

1:13:44And I thought she just did it brilliantly. And she looked amazing. Have her host everything. Have her host everything. We got like so many looks, which is always fun for the girlies. She had the glamour. She had everything. Like seriously, she, like I felt like she was having fun, which typically everyone talks about this job, the hosting job is like the most thankless job. It's so dreadful. It's like you don't pass it up because it's a good opportunity, but nobody wants to do it. Like she was happy to be there. and I feel like there's been a lot of discourse ever since Joan Rivers died like who's the next Joan right and it felt like you know everybody sort of gave it to Kathy Griffin and then they took it back and we've just sort of been like waiting and honestly after last night like that was a I think a performance Joan Rivers would have liked yeah I'm gonna go back and watch some stuff again I feel like as we talk about people I'll remember jokes that she made because it was parge it was brilliant I hope I hope this blows up her career like tenfold any up she should be getting the same opportunities as like Kevin Hart and Chris Rock like she is fucking funny she works hard and she writes her own jokes that you can tell she like workshopped them a million times I I can't I can't remember a time where I've had nothing negative to say nothing yeah I actually overall thoughts on the Golden Globes though I watched the whole thing which is tells you everything you need to know usually I watch every award show because like that's what we do and then And I turn it off when it either offends me or seriously bores me.

1:15:03And I'm like, this is a bad use of my time. I watched till the end. I watched them getting up out of their chairs. Not to say that I loved it so much. My only issue with the show is I felt like every, mostly like 90 % of the awards went to the wrong people. Not that I saw any of the movies. I just want to say it was just vibes. Just like based on vibes. Just vibes. And like knowing the actors and seeing some of the reviews. Like I think Amelia Perez won a lot of awards. Like the things that I've seen about that movie, not only the Spanish speaking debacle, which we discussed, which I thought would make it like take it out of the running of seriousness.

1:15:29um the reviews are like I've just seen people being like no no the movie is so bad so much so that I actually want to watch it just to make sure but you know my time is precious same but what I've also heard and I would love like our Mexican tostadas to speak on this from my community what I've heard is like the fact that they made a film about this particular story is so offensive to Mexican culture they say they say it's like I don't know I don't know if this was an exaggeration but I saw a tweet that was like it's the equivalent of like making a sympathetic like backstory to the 9-11 like doers wow like I don't I don't know I don't even know who Amelia Perez is and like I would love for the Mexican tostados please sound off in the comments like are you offended the fact that this movie was even created that's like we're finally telling the story it's a French director with like no real ties to the Mexican culture and like you know you know one of the characters doesn't even speak Spanish like beyond that like actual the execution the sheer concept of it I believe is quite controversial that is so funny I didn't even know that all I I keep getting like piecemeal information about this movie of course the Spanish speaking controversy which I really thought would take it out of contention like that kind of that's like inauthenticity we're yeah we don't do that you know so I was shocked that it won so many things and of course I didn't see it and I've heard bad things so I was like oh maybe not but here let's go through the before we dive into the winners can we just quickly do red carpet sure now I don't need to go through everyone's looks like everyone was actually well dressed with the exception of Kerry Washington.

1:16:54She actually looked so ugly and I couldn't believe that she decided to wear that. And it was Balenciaga. Like obviously when you wear, Nicole Kidman also wore Balenciaga, which was enormously disappointing. But let me say - She was undeniable. It was undeniable look. Two things can be true. It was such an unbelievably beautiful dress and it really, it looked amazing on her. So I could see how she struggled with that decision. Like, damn, do I go for like the good dress or the moral compass? And I know she's a spokesperson for Balenciaga, so she has to wear, same with Kerry Washington. But the fact that Kerry Washington like knew she was going to get shit and decided to wear something so ugly like yeah what what for what you know yeah um but I was watching E and this is the first big award show where they gave Laverne Cox the boot and I think the consumers and the watchers and the viewers have you know kind of requesting that for some time they really tried to make it work but I noticed like a big shift where Zuri Hall who is this like OG entertainment journalist who's been with E for a really long time it doesn't necessarily always get these opportunities she was given the prime spot she was talking to most of the stars and then Heather was on um another I like I think on the longer red carpet with the microphones and Kelty was at the front so it was kind of like Zuri's moment which I thought was great because we're always talking about like the lack of like entertainment journalists on the carpet and I know it's important to like involve you know other people and that's why we're always saying like Kelty is so great and Heather's so funny so like it's really great balance but the fact that they gave Zuri the main stage I think was really well deserved like she's been at the network for so many years I feel like she's always kind of like getting the boot and I love that I saw a bit of e-red carpet and every interview that I saw like no awkward moments like no butt clenching I feel like the flow of conversation is like so hard in those moments and like that's what makes someone really great and I thought everyone that I saw did a really good job and like it was just conversation and and the talent was having fun and they felt comfortable and the hosts like Heather and Zuri like they just did a really good job so much so like I shouldn't have so many thoughts on on the actual dialogue you know yeah and Zuri is we should be like making fun of what the celebrity answers are let's get back to those times Zuri is so beautiful but what I really noticed is like everyone who got on stage was like kind of dazzled by her Jamie Foxx yes oh my god you look beautiful like I don't know a time where like the talent has complimented the host so frequently I feel like she probably got a date last night she better well I mean she did date Travis so a lot of people forget that I was gonna mention it but like I just I didn't want it to like eclipse everything she did last night you know now we can go for the winner sorry oh but the fashion did you want to talk about the fashion on the red carpet or just the carpet itself just the Balenciaga and then the carpet like because I'm always talking about the entertainment journalists like just as for people who study entertainment journalism like good luck getting a job yeah so backwards to forwards best motion picture musical or comedy so in the Oscars this is one category best motion picture at the gold globes it's two We had Best Motion Picture, Musical, or Comedy, and that went to Amelia Perez.

1:19:45It's, like, really crazy, just given what I know about the film. Yeah, I didn't see any of the other movies except for Wicked, and I don't think Wicked should have won for this. I love Wicked, and it's the only movie that I saw. But, like, you know, I can acknowledge that, like, other movies could be the best in this category. Onora, Challenger, A Real Pain, and The Substance. Oh, so have you been seeing, like, the drama with Onora? I never heard of Onora until last night. So that very beautiful girl who, like, is the star. she has done a bunch of interviews that there wasn't an intimacy coordinator on set and it's just like it's kind of weird and she talks about it in a positive way she's like but everybody made me feel so but like why like literally why is it not a SAG production like where the fuck is SAG I don't know but also then do like smaller budget productions like have to cut corners on stuff like that bitch I don't give a fuck like get rid of craft services like I'm imagining it's like an indie movie I don't think it is get rid of craft services starve casting crew lighting writing I've got other corners you could cut other corners yeah next motion best motion picture drama went to the brutalist which was the adrian brody movie which from the awards show two things emerged that I want to maybe watch that I added to my plate the brutalist and shogun I think I would start with shogun I think I would like that the best I love to see adrian brody like out and about I feel like he doesn't really leave his house a lot and seeing him with his lady love Georgina Chapman but yeah I will never get over that I need more jokes about Adrian Brody at award shows so that I could get more eyes on Adrian and Georgina and when he won I was like is he gonna mention and it's so crazy because like she's Harvey Weinstein's ex-wife for those who don't know but she's also the director of Marquesa like she's a very accomplished woman she's so beautiful and she went from Harvey and she's like an age-appropriate like get for him it's it's literally a perfect match I couldn't I just wish she was Jewish like that's it but I'll get over it she went from harvey to adrian so she's like loving life and seriously she deserves peace and not only did he say like shout out to georgina like he gave her such a glowing they've been together for a while they've been together three years now and i just i really really ship so the brutalist looks good because it's about some architect who emigrated jewish who emigrated from hungary to the u.s and built his career it's a three and a half hour movie though so you know turdy's not seeing it one thing about adrian brody like he is going to tell the story of our people I love him no I seriously love him so much so is now an appropriate time to tell the story about the time I was seated next to Adrian Brody at a dinner party and I had absolutely no idea who he was Jackie looked so different and I got seated next to him and I was like what do you do he's like I'm an artist and I guess that's like what an actor would say he said I'm an artist so I thought he like painted I'm like oh like sculptures or painting and he was like both and then he left that is so funny it was a humsworth moment for Adrian Brody I think he referenced it last night in his acceptance speech because he said like a few years ago like I thought I was done and there was that was a theme and I love when this happens like Demi Moore won best actress and she's been a working actress for 40 years and she's never won an award like this so like I that reminded me of Jennifer Coolidge when like someone just gets their shine in their moment and then for Adrian Brody I'm like she had it won I'm like right exactly I'm like if Adrian Brody felt like that like he couldn't act anymore like who can no it's so true I loved Demi Moore's speech me as well and I won't watch her movie with Margaret Qualley but it looks like interesting I actually think I might watch it I I found myself being really dazzled by Margaret Qualley last night I know her obviously my best dressed me too and I saw a lot of like hate for her dress I guess she like wears a lot of like boring Chanel looks a lot because she's a Chanel face seriously goals yeah like I thought she looked so gorgeous her Her hair and makeup was sick.

1:23:21I thought she was dazzling. And I was actually like, I think her interview with Zuri, like left the biggest impact on me. I was like, oh my God, I love this girl. I could actually see her like hanging out with Taylor and being a swirly. Up until this point, I thought she was like kind of serious. I don't know. And like her and Jack are like kind of granola. They just looked like, yeah, they just looked like kind of like, like people I wouldn't hang out with, you know? But then I saw her personality. She's got that swirlitude. She has that swirlitude. Then you have to remember, she's Andy McDowell's daughter.

1:23:46Like, I know these things don't just happen. I know but it's just like you said about Paige like when you're Annie McDowell's daughter and that you're that gorgeous and talented like do you also have to have a busing personality no no but she's a really interesting example because she's obviously like a nepo baby where what are we calling nepo babies who like so far eclipse their parents in stardom because I think I and I think Margaret Qualley is more famous than Andy McDowell has ever been and I think that when we have the nepo baby conversation and we talk about people who only got to where they got because of their parents and not for their talent we also need to talk about this category of person like even Gwyneth Paltrow right yes similar to Margaret Qualley I feel like is Maya Hawk I think she gets like a lot of the Nepo baby combo um Ethan Hawk and what Kira Sedgwick's no Kira Sedgwick is um Kevin Bacon literally same thing okay I forgot her Hawks wipe yes actually yes um so she to me is like classic Nepo you know she's like in stuff She's not like, you know, rocking.

1:24:45And especially she's not even close to her parents level. But Margaret Qualley is really A-list, Oscar nominated, really kind of making moves. Making moves. Best Motion Picture Animated went to Flow. Best Cinematic and Box Office Achievement went to Wicked, which is the award that it should win if it was going to win any award. And they added it last year, I think, for Barbie. Yeah. So we got to have our Wicked moment. Yeah, Cynthia and Ariana both lost, and John Chu wasn't nominated for director. And it definitely felt like, because we have to think about how far the Golden Globes has come. Like the fact that we're all talking about, and I think a lot of people watched it, when a few years ago, it actually was taken off air.

1:25:23And the Golden Globes Association was like on the verge of shutting down, and then people in Hollywood like lobbied to get it back. So I think that they're very conscious of like remaining, you know, upper tier, upper echelon, artsy cinematic. And to give out any awards to a movie like Wicked that had such commercial success, I feel like they're afraid to do. and so yes they obviously won this category but this category is meaningless honestly like it's and I actually even though Wicked was really the only piece of work that I saw in the entire show so you would think I think it should win everything um they didn't even need this it's nice that the girls were nominated so that they could go to the show and Wicked could be included in these conversations but it's like I'm okay without Wicked having like or if Barbie hadn't had that moment like you know you made all the money enjoy that these people have a statue I just feel like Golden Globes is like afraid to engage with Wicked because it's considered like lowbrow and commercial so if there was an award show that they weren't going to get any awards it was going to be this one but I think like Ariana and Cynthia like definitely have a chance at winning other more prestigious I do like I don't think the Oscars give a fuck if somebody from a commercially successful film wins why do you feel like the Golden Globes is more artistic than the Oscars it's not more artistic but I feel like they had they're more um afraid because they were like literally taken off air nobody was listening and they were largely for many years like considered like losery because they did tv and film and they are now like making a comeback and so they're more protective of their brand thus not wanting to engage and that's why they had a stupid category made for wicked so they don't have to give it to give the prestigious awards to the movies like wicked by the way i think the fact that it's tv and film is what makes it a really good award show now because like to us it's the same thing i don't know which of these is a movie which of these is a show and we get to cover more categories we get to see more people and the Oscars then kind of feels like half of this because TV is movies now it's all the same I agree and that's I love Nikki Glaser said that in a very funny way just being like the big movie stars are here Colin Farrell and the big TV stars Colin Farrell it's actually amazing and I think for so long the TV was looked down upon and that's largely why like the Golden Globes have had like kind of like a tacky sort of vibe to them they're coming up with television When you think about what people are actually watching, when you're thinking about what's actually making money, like it's TV.

1:27:33Yeah. It is. And it's like these mini series. Like when I think I look at Anya Taylor-Joy, she's like one of the, she's like a movie star, right? She started, sorry bitch, Queen's Gambit. Like that was a TV show. She is the Queen's Gambit. Yeah. She'll never not be Beth Harmon. I don't even know that name. That will never not be like the single greatest piece of art that we've been given as consumers. I tend to agree. Yeah. I want to watch it again. Best motion picture, non-English language, Amelia Perez France so make it make sense right right best performance by a female actor in a motion picture drama Fernando Fernando Torres I'm still here that's a big category and I'd not I did not know her me neither best performance by a male actor in a motion picture drama our boyfriend Adrian Brody the brutalist the only reason why like I would have liked to see Timothee Chalamet win is to see if he would thank his lady love but someone needs to tell both Timothee and Club chalamet that like that movie's winning no awards i can't believe he was even nominated i have heard not one thing good or bad which is even worse the movie came out it's gotten nominated like enough time has passed for it to be in the nominations because i feel like we're still talking about them filming it he's seen on the streets with a guitar case no i didn't even know it came out like that's how nobody moved yeah let me just say something jackie because we're nearing on 90 minutes your cards are still running my cards are still running just good good good okay best performance by a female actor in a motion picture musical or comedy to me more the substance which I thought was such a great moment I thought it was a great moment I I do want to see that movie and I thought she made such a great speech about like you know being told her whole career because when you think about to me you obviously think like yeah blockbuster and you think of it as a good way as a good way but I didn't know it was like this thing that was sort of like beaten her like she got beat down with by people in the industry being like you'll never be serious like go make another blockbuster popcorn movie and this and when we talk about her resurgence I I really feel like we cannot talk about it without talking about - Landman?

1:29:23Brad Goreski's impact. What? Yes. Oh, I feel like so much of - Where does he come in? He's her stylist. And like, I think he's a new stylist. And I think that people really started paying attention to Demi like last year when she was like looking really good and hot. And I saw all these Brad Goreski like stylist videos. And I feel like so much of her comeback obviously has to do with the work that she did, but also like the pussy she's popping. And I think Brad Goreski only started working with her. like I it feels like a year ago and it was like this huge impact kind of how we all like we're looking at Lindsay Lohan being like damn girl what are you doing it felt like it had a Lindsay vibe she had a damn girl moment she had a glow up yeah I missed all that but I'm happy to be here now and she's also in Landman so it just feels like she's pounding the pavement Landman's on my plate oh and Billy Bob Thornton was there Billy Bob Thornton so was Angelina do you think that was weird really crazy I know that's really crazy best performance by a male actor in a motion picture musical or comedy Sebastian Stan a different man best performance by female actor in a supporting role motion picture Zoe Saldana Amelia Perez which was exciting for her it's the same Demi Moore vibe I love her um I don't know anything about the movie I love Zoe um she was so emphatic in her speech I was like oh my god she really wanted this oh wait I forgot about that yeah she was like really zealous and it must mean a lot to her um for a multitude of reasons but pop off queen center stage is a hit and then best tv series show gun so i think i'm watching show gun yeah ben will not like let me rest until we watch it okay great maybe we could like do it together yeah best tv series musical or comedy hacks always a good choice love to see gene smart and hacks like constantly getting their flowers like it's just a good safe choice by the way best TV limited series Baby Reindeer, which I need to know your thoughts.

1:31:11He won, he won, she won, and oh no, no, she won and the show won. Yes. I have to say, I actually agreed that she should have won. She was excellent. Even though I didn't like the show, I felt it was like really dark. Not necessarily that it's a bad show, but it was not the right show for me. Right. I thought she was an excellent actress and it was like her first big break. And I'm happy she won. he won and then he gave this like really weird speech about stories that dark never get made and we need to get comfortable being uncomfortable and I just feel like that's literally not true like everything that gets made is dark everything that we're watching is making us uncomfortable like please bring back just like regular degular bright shows and Liz was was posting about this too and and that's always what I say everything that I watch like makes is just like depressing and dark and that's not how I want to feel the thing that isn't though is reality tv and I think that's why when I have a chance to watch tv I watch a lot of reality tv it's just like fun can we bring back fun and I think that's why people love movies like Wicked and Barbie movie where it's just like bright and fun and like not everything has to be dark all the time these things are supposed to be an escape a thousand percent now having said that like the actual story of Baby Reindeer is so crazy and the fact that it happened to this guy and it was like this really fucking like life-altering event and he decided to like turn it into art like that's a beautiful story and and i'm happy for him i don't know what the event is he was stalked he had a crazy stalker and when when when they they were like sharing fun facts last night when people would win that was the sideline reporters was a crazy touch and the fun facts but the fun facts were not fun um however one of the fun facts i did find interesting was that like when he was stalked because emails were like a huge part of the show and like his stalking he was sent over the however long period of time 41 000 emails by this crazy lady who is now suing netflix by the way for like you know telling her story in a way that she didn't approve okay the stalker the real stalker let the courts duke it out um more you want more not really okay like you get the gist it was fine you either watched it or you didn't ariana and cynthia lost like that was for me like big yeah it kicked off award season so we'll have like more of this and it was totally fine which is like that's the headline it was totally fine i just want to say i don't every time i watch a Golden Globes I'm really shocked that Steve Martin and Martin Short get nominated every year and they never win and having just recently that's because how could you pick one who would you pick Martin Short um he is so fucking funny having just recently watched a new season and I don't think all the seasons have been amazing I think the first was good the second I think the first was great the second was good the third was bad the fourth was great I like I when will they win and seriously Martin Short deserves it give it to Marty they'll probably win in their last season that's what they like to do yeah on their way out yeah are you ready for our next story totally switching gears yes because love is in the air perchance Molly Mae and Tommy Fury were spotted kissing on New Year's Eve five months after they split so right now is actually like high time for Molly Mae fans I I'm wearing maybe today that's just a complete coincidence it's a fun fact about you her docu-series is coming out in two short weeks it's all about maybe the Tommy split the molly of it all but now they're spotted kissing on new year's eve like what does this mean was what he did forgivable why were we all under the assumption it wasn't because it's not but we don't even know what he did yeah we do because just right that girl girl that girl did you see that's just one person's story by the way i think i sent you a video of that girl talking about her dirty underwear yeah and her dad claudia jackie the girl's fucking disgusting claudia so the fact that tommy was willing to literally throw his entire beautiful life away not that you know he would should do it for anyone but this girl in particular I just want to say I am also like not believing that girl at face value you're holding space for her being a liar she looks like a big fat liar like one of the most morally bankrupt people I've ever witnessed on my phone but we do know that he did cheat yeah yeah I don't think he didn't cheat but anyway so we don't know exactly what happened she literally dropped him in a day it was that bad and now she's kissing him on New Year's Eve now is it just like a a friendly nostalgic kiss what brought them to the same party right I am holding space for like you know trusting my fave right I know Molly is going to make the best decision for her and her family but I'm really struggling because at the end of the day I don't believe that infidelity is the end-all be-all for every relationship I think people really can change and people can work through it and it's really really hard having said that and this is based on information yes from that girl so I may be working with false information but what she had said was that he she was a third or fourth girl Tommy had sex with that night um and you know yeah so here's the thing every every like then tommy would be suing her he can't just say shit i guess i don't believe that girl at face value not at all however maybe everything she's saying is a lie but like what uh maybe there's a percentage of truth but what if say this what if tommy has a drinking problem not to slander him but don't worry i'll work We'll work through it.

1:36:13What if Tommy has a really bad drinking problem and he gets drunk and he sleeps with four or five girls in one night? And now he, in the last five months, like he has seriously gone to rehab, gotten sober. And like when he doesn't drink, that doesn't happen. Could you take him back? Well, not you, but like could Molly? If he's not going to drink again, it would not happen again, say. No, I actually, I think that like, that is even harder for her to deal with, with a newborn. Well, not a newborn. Allegedly. Yeah, right. Let me just throw that in. No, I don't, I don't think so. also I don't I don't know that he's an alcoholic because when you're in like no I'm not saying I'm just I'm just presenting a theory that would show you how there could be a path forward just to say that there would be paths not that that's the one I'm torn between like wanting a family to come together and like reunite while also like men who behave like this like absolutely need to be punished harsher punishment for parole violators you know yeah yeah I just I really do trust my fave on this I trust Molly I know um so I'm also sometimes you need to learn a lesson like three or four times before it sticks that happens a lot with people who you know get back together with sort of serial cheaters now we don't know if he's a serial cheater or something that happened one time very Steve Brady-esque um like do you think Miranda should have taken back Steve yes but I think she was totally valid in literally taking a whole ass ear and getting a new apartment like he needed to learn his lesson like people need to be taught yeah well I I'm gonna wait for the docuseries because i do imagine she will tell us what happened in the docuseries otherwise like why film a docuseries at this moment in time you know yeah i know she's also doing it for her clothing brand but like i feel like that would be the right safe form for her to share even or you know paint a yeah paint a vague abstract picture i don't need to know the details i mean yeah i'd like to but this is tough i i'm gonna we're always saying to trust your faves and like this is a practical application of policy and I'm trusting my faith and when I do that this makes me happy you know what I mean because I'm having a hard time seeing him as anything other than like slimy and gross these days that's that's where I'm coming from yeah but but Molly wouldn't kiss someone slimy and gross you love who you love love is blind love who you love and don't ever be so happy new year it's the time but I also I feel like for Tommy and Molly and I don't feel this way about Paige and Craig surprisingly when I look inward I feel like for Tommy and Molly like there's no one else for either of them it'll never be over yeah you know what I mean like I don't see Molly with the next guy like it's her and Tommy and I I don't see Tommy with the next girl.

1:38:59But I don't know. Maybe I'm just. Maybe it's not even them. In the picture. Even though it looks like them. She wore her hair half up, half down. But maybe she has it tight. Maybe she has it tight. Because also right before this video was released, there was a lot of rumors that they were spotted at a mall together holding hands. There was no proof. So we were like waiting. And then this. So it was kind of. It is. It is. Great. So let's see. Let us see. Great. July. What month is it? January 17th, the doc drops Amazon Prime. See you there. Oh, that's soon. That should be nominated for a Globe.

1:39:31And that's how Molly sees it. And then our fifth and final story is such exciting news. Yes, from the business world. From the business world, from the fashion world, Kristen Juszczyk has partnered with Emma Greed to launch her brand Off Season, which is a sports apparel brand born from Kristen's viral DIY looks. And what's, of course, getting Kristen's brand finally to market is so exciting. But the fact that she's partnering with Emma who is also the partner on Skims and Good American and the Kardashians go to fashion swirly, like just bodes so well for the health of the company. If you watch Shark Tank, she's like a very popular guest shark.

1:40:05She is like, she's a billionaire, I believe. Yeah, she also does Safely. Safely, she's like the go to Kardashian business girly. But before that, she had like an even more impressive resume. That's how she got, but now it's like everything she touches turns to gold. We all knew that Kristen used to check because she got her NFL license, was working on some sort of like line, like consumer focused line. And I figured she would like work with someone. I don't know if it was gonna be like a brand she partnered with, like a Kmart line. That would have been cool. If you would have asked me what's like the coolest, best person she could have partnered with, I wouldn't have even, I couldn't have even come up with this idea because it's so good and I'm so dumb.

1:40:43But when I heard it, I was like, oh, parfait. Parfait. Like, yes. Better than we could have imagined. I think like we all want the world for Kristin Ushak, not only because she's a gorgeous, wonderful pardy girl but because she's so talented like we want those clothes but she can only do so much with her sewing machine so like it's so true market is important but also in a way like building a fashion brand as we said like it's so uh it's hard and it's expensive and warehouses and distribution and and then you add all these teams too like right having to make all this custom apparel like by team by size but it's just a lot so that she's partnered with the right person who makes these things happen like oh beautiful it's it's in partnership with emma green but also with fanatics which is like the official sports apparel you know the july 4th guy can't wait to see christian jushek at the july 4th party can't wait to see christian jushek she could not have gotten in bed with better people um this shit is so cute uh mine's in on on the way i actually got an email about like sizing and address i don't i wonder which one they're gonna give me they're probably gonna give me oh you got pr i'm like you ordered it no no no i got pr bitch yeah that's right well hasn't it hasn't showed up yet um uh I feel like they're gonna give me Kyle uh number 44 I feel like a vest or maybe a jacket because I live in New York whatever I'm so excited um the shade is so cute it's pricey but it's it's like it's I think maybe the first brand when it comes to like NFL licensing and like sportswear that's a little bit more high fashion it's not just like merch yeah but also the amount that men pay for their faves jersey is a lot those jerseys are expensive and like for women you buy a t-shirt for a game you don't wear the same t-shirt every game but now this is something that you could wear to every single game in the season and outerwear the off season yeah the name is off season which is really cute and I love the way they're rolling it out I don't know if you saw the 49ers game last night her husband was wearing um a vest and then George Kittle who's like the other tight end on his team who's like huge um was also wearing a vest like with their custom so their jerseys too so the numbers are on the front and the last names are on the back it was so like I'm just loving the rollout do you know the price point um yeah I think it's like a like$300 which by the way for like a puffer jacket that's going to keep you warm like an outdoor jacket I don't know how warm it like what the insulation is like but that's like kind of a good price for a real puffer jacket you don't know the insulation no no but I'll let you know when I get my when I get my PR um I I'm so excited it's so great but also this is making me realize that there is one other piece of news that we have to talk about on this episode not to make it two hours but like people are waiting Megan's trailer dropped for her show with love Megan we talked about the trailer a little bit on patreon but we owe you guys a little bit of our initial thoughts because her show is premiering on Netflix any day now the name is with love Megan which I actually don't like comma Megan this is yeah that's the only part of this I don't like I don't like the comma and you guys know I love comma usage it should be with love no no comma Megan no no it shouldn't be the title of course it should be title requires cooking with the duchess yeah like duchess oven or something the duchess i love that the duchess kitchen like come on yeah no it's the only thing i don't like um it's so disingenuine is that a word the name disingenuous the name with love like stop it no and if you need like a pause in your title it's just not gonna work because the way people talk it's like show gun i watched disingenuous I watched with love.

1:44:06I watched with love Megan last night. I don't, I just don't like it. So that's my only critique. But let me tell you, I gasped when the trailer dropped. I feel like this is exactly what you and I have been requesting from her. And of all the business projects she's done upon Megxit, so many of them have felt like really random and not pargy. And this is pargy. She's a homemaker. She like lives on a farm with her chicken. She's feeding her children. she hosts a lot she's rich and beautiful and and this is what I want to see like thank you I don't need to see you like talking to Gloria Steinem like this is what I want.

1:44:40Well I think she's like cooking with Gloria Steinem which I've said like I hate that shit like I want to see you sat in your kitchen talking to me not Mindy Kaling not your friends who I don't know not you teaching someone else I want you teaching me when I first saw the trailer like I this is the exact type of content we've wanted from her but also wanted in general like we want more like pargy-licious shows lifestyle bring us into your home make it warm comfort creators as we say yes and so I'm so glad that that's what she's doing um however as I said on the patreon like what this show needs and we'll have to watch episodes to find out is substance like it needs like heart we need to be hearing from her like I want real words I don't want word salad I want salad but I want real words being spoken like I really feel like we need to like she needs to open up to us the viewers yeah because that's how like you endear yourself and how you how you become someone's comfort it so I feel like the potential here is so endless and for such beauty beauty and I'm really excited to watch it however she needs to give us like more than she's ever given us more than archetypes no it's scripted not phony like no phoning it in moments that you're pretending are candid but they're canned like I want to let be let in I completely agree I also I do I do agree with your assessment that like cooking shows with guests as a format is really not something I'm particularly interested in and so I was a little disappointed to see like the random guests obviously I love Mindy Kaling so I'm not talking about that but it just felt like who can we call to get and it's like why don't you just give us an episode just you you know you are enough Megan why don't you give us a season just you and then eventually you run out of things to make you bring a guest fine Ina does yeah but I want to get to know you I don't want to see your friendship with me like I genuinely don't give a shit the backlash has been swift and i have heard like some real like out of out of control like critiques like i feel like what we're criticizing is just like format wise like it's so because we have a very high bar for it but like the criticisms have been like i have seen so many people being like are you kidding megan markle like there's people that are dying people can't pay their bills like the country's in shambles like well yes all of that is true why is that Meghan Markle's problem like the golden globes were on last night okay I just want to say I saw some criticisms like that and it didn't make me stop and think because like you have to remember they meditated five years ago they left a life of service and duty and like giving back to their community and they were going they like were acting like they could do more outside of the family and like this isn't doing any this isn't helping people in solving world hunger which you don't need to do as a human being I don't give a fuck but like that's what they have like presented themselves as so now for this is her first like entertainment focused project so like yeah we're calling it like you guys don't aren't doing philanthropy it's not like i never needed them to come here they're not the president that but they've always billed themselves as that so like to go from that to now just like straight entertainment you know we're not even pretending we're okay let me ask you a question we're gonna waste food instead of giving it let me ask you a question because i feel like a really fair comparison a lot of people make in terms of their level of celebrity is very similar to the obamas right like formerly in service friends with lots of famous people if michelle obama had a cooking show like do you think it would be like distasteful no no because they did their service no it's it's not a good comparison in this regard because they get that comparison because they were going on to do a life of service they just got married they barely did anything while they were in the uk and then they left to say we could do more and we can be more impactful more constrained and instead they're making cooking shows whereas like the obamas like did their time they gave their service to the country and now if you want to go do a cooking show do whatever the fuck you want that so no it's not the same it's just like then you should have been real five years ago when you left that like we are here to go to hollywood which we all knew and i think that's why people were like annoyed with them for being so phony like no we're not but now like yeah you are and the thing is like that's what we wanted her back in Hollywood.

1:48:34She was our star. It's true. It's so true. Oh, and then a lot of the commentary saying like how inauthentic this is. And I actually think a lot of people forget that like Megan actually had a really, it wasn't so popular in the States, but when she was living in Vancouver, she was like a really popular influencer there with the TIG. It was like a blog that was like very lifestyle focused, lots of like gardening, cooking, very similar. She should have called this the TIG actually. That would have been a good name. That would have been an amazing name and really full circle. And her saying like, yeah, I want to go back to being the person that I was before all of that it didn't work out and Harry wasn't happy either and he's not been happy in that role in a long time so like we're gonna do my life now and I feel like that honesty would have been appreciated then would be appreciated now and that's where it gets to be like inauthentic but calling the show inauthentic you can't say until you've watched it like can this woman cook that's all I care no but she also didn't like pick up one day and decide to like get into lifestyle content like she actually has a passion for lifestyle content yeah and so that is really working on her side and the TIG would have been such a good name the TIG with Megan the TIG I I really do love it I think it like seriously launches any day she's also going for like the sort of Madonna like thing um where her Instagram that she launched is at Megan her show like she wanted her name in the title just Megan so I think she's going for like kind of this one name wonder type of thing which I kind of like there isn't like a Megan who do you think is the most famous Megan her right she in competition with anyone well now that you say it like Megan Maroney you know okay so they're not on the same level so no like now that you now that you keep saying Megan Megan but honestly I don't know let's see if it sticks maybe it's a good PR move but I feel like there were other names she could like Sussex is strong and you're not competing like Sussex Kitchen I kind of like that you know like I just they actually have a lot of names between them because they have Prince Harry Royal Highness Doak Duchess Sussex Doak Sussex, Windsor, Mountbatten, Archetype, Arc.

1:50:29You know, they've got a lot of names in their world. So there was a lot to work with. And instead we got with Love, Megan, and American Riviera Orchard. Because we've been podcasting for an eternity. I'm about to pee in my pants. Oh, I'm just like quickly checking page six to make sure like nothing broke. Oh, the only thing we need to talk about was Zendaya wearing an engagement ring on the red carpet, which was Parchi. And she also accidentally lifted her arm and showed us that she got a tattoo, which is a little T. oh cute it's so funny she wears an engagement ring on the red carpet and like for some reason it's still like well are they engaged and it's like yeah well because celebrities wear like cocktail rings it was the only ring that fit her finger but no there's pictures of her like showing the ring to people at the so she's totally engaged i love them i hope i love that they protect their privacy i hope she never announces it like bitch it's literally none of our business yeah but same doesn't go for kylie and timothy like give us more it's time it's been two years she looked insane she is insane when she was just like smiling next to him laughing at the jokes of nikki glazer like oh my god i i need kylie cam at these of words agreed agreed okay we did it two hours nilafi that is our show i started the new year by drinking so much water so i've already drank one whole one of these and this is my i'm gonna pee my pants we can't do long episodes like this if i want to be a hydrated well by the way you can go i'm wrapping up go thank you so much for listening to the toast the millennium morning show where we deliver the fast five stories you We need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube.

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