Sex Change Operation: Friday, January 24th, 2025

37:43But like Kelly's not that far off. Like she's the biggest star. Like she should be doing 100 ,000, 200 ,000 copies. Like somebody is actively failing Kelly Clarkson. It's not us. No, no, no. It's not us. Somebody is actively failing her. So maybe, yeah, her switching it up. But wait, who released chemistry? What label was she on? Do you know what I mean? She was on Atlantic. Atlantic. And they did Meaning of Life. Meaning of Life got no love. meaning of life got no love metacritic gave it a 70 out of 100 what the album like on its score chemistry excuse me sorry okay i just feel like that's low who's metacritic in this world they're actually like they are somebody i'm just letting you know but i it's a good question have you heard of them before you just found that yes of course is that like the rotten tomatoes for music yes oh you don't know metacritic i don't know metacritic oh oh you know Metacritic is like a it's the Rotten Tomatoes tell me what else Metacritic likes and I will say I think Metacritic often gets it right I think Rotten Tomatoes is seriously like I live on a different planet than the people who work at Rotten Tomatoes I think Rotten Tomatoes audience score gets it right yeah okay give me an example of an album that you think is perfect and I'll tell you what Metacritic gave them Native One Republic One Republic yeah our fave a perfect album.

39:02Perfect album. Let me go pull up some albums so we can keep playing this game. No, it's so, by the way, it's fun. Okay, I don't know why I'm having a hard time. Native not having talk to text on my iPad is really, like, I'm turning into a grandma. I can't do anything without talk to text. Native Metacritic. I think you can set it up. Damn. Metacritic gave native by one republic which is seriously a perfect album yeah you know every song even if you've never listened to the album you do a 65 who was metacritic in this world user score 8.2 so 82 what's a what's like a the best taylor swift album in your opinion like 1989 yeah like let's see what they gave 1989 right now that's what i would say i mean my name okay by By the way, 1989 has a 76.

39:59So that's obviously a good score is what I'm saying. Okay, what's their top rated albums? They don't have a little thing? Oh, sure, sure, sure. Metacritic, top rated. It's going to be like Nirvana. You know, like I need swirly edition. I need swirly edition. Okay, yeah, 10 Freedom Summers. I don't know what that is. Let me see if I know. What else? Jackie, I actually don't know any of this. The Beatles? Fiona Apple, Brian Wilson, Loretta Lynn. Let me see until I find something I actually know. Oh, Damn by Kendrick Lamar from 2017. No, I'm not familiar. Okay, by the way, I'm so glad we're talking about this.

40:38Bruno Mars. Number 14 on the list of highest Metacritic rated with a 95 is Brat. And I want to talk about Brat. Who is Metacritic in this world, Claudia? I go, I, I go back to my original point and I agree with my past self. Brett, while it felt like, cause I've been seeing a lot of the Grammys are coming, right? So everybody's talking about album of the year. And while it really felt like Brett like took over, the numbers do not lie. Like Brad actually did not take over, like not even in the slightest. Um, and I don't know, like maybe it's because I'm so chronically online and like this definitely was an album for the chronically online and it very much existed like in TikTok.

41:19and I don't know why I thought like maybe that happened everywhere. Yeah. It seriously like was not even remotely successful compared to the other albums of the year. Yeah. Yeah. I tried to tell you this in a delicate way, but I'm glad they reached the conclusion on your own. Like. Yeah, no, I've been seeing it on Twitter. People being like, it's giving industry plant. Very much so. Very much so. Let's do an example. short and sweet which is also nominated for the year and which what i think should win sales let's say short and sweet sales why do they make it so hard to find these information how many copies it is now sold over a million in as of august over a million units in in the u.s it came out in august great okay so in its first month it sold a million units you're saying and now what they say about BRAT, which is older, and they're saying as of today, worldwide.

42:21See, that number I just gave you was the US. Was the US, and in August, when the month it came out. Right. A million copies in the month. BRAT, 800 ,000. And that's with way more time and the globe. That's way higher than I expected, actually. Yeah. Well. Well. Well, well, well. Well, who is Metacritic in this world? Right. So I'm glad we got to the bottom of that. Stream Kelly Clarkson. Are you ready for - Do your due diligence. Do your part. Do your part. Yeah. Be the change you wish to see. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story, which actually is a great segue number three, a great segue from our previous story, which is that Kendrick Lamar, who has one of the top rated albums on Metacritic, has revealed who his special guest performer for the 2025 Super Bowl halftime show will be.

43:13Oh my God, I literally first of all forgot that he was a performer half to him I just want to make sure you know that I heard that um they changed the name of the show actually oh that's good the half to him show that's nice and I was just thinking I'm realizing there's only one more weekend like this weekend no there's two football games I read this story and I was like oh okay in a few months like cool for the Super Bowl and now I'm just realizing like this is for next weekend the Super Bowl yeah so that's exciting I feel like nobody's talking about the fact that the Washington, I don't know what their name is anymore.

43:47Football club. Commanders. They're still in it. Yeah. And they're going against the Eagles. Right. So we might have a repeat this weekend. It's commanders versus Eagles. And the bills versus chiefs. The Haley versus the tailords. I know. I just want to say that I would have loved, and I know like divisional, don't get me started on the divisions, but it really would have been sick if the Superbowl could have been bills versus chiefs. Like we could have had so much celebrity like moments. And I think of these four teams, as somebody who's been paying attention to football, the two best teams out of these four are the Bills and the Chiefs.

44:19They should be playing each other. Seriously, who are the commanders in this world? It's so true. I don't want to come for the Washington State Swirlies because last year I came for the Detroit Swirlies and they got mad. But I'm just saying, seriously, in this narrative, who are you? Can I ask a really crazy question? Good for you from getting this far. Can I ask a really quick question based on what you just said? The Washington commanders are from Washington State, not D.C.? that would be really crazy if they were from dc like it's not even a state no no claudia i think they're the dc washington commanders don't ask me why i think that but that's just always like something i've held true in the washington metropolitan area what does that mean oh dc oh my god you're right wait that is so crazy and so does washington state have a football team no the seattle seahawks do so i guess that represents the entire pacific northwest Yeah, but that too does like, that does Portland, Oregon.

45:13Like that does that whole purple haired crew. For sure, but. So Washington State does have a team because Seattle is in Washington. Oh, right, it is, yeah. That's such a good call. Thanks for bringing that up. And yeah, the commanders are out of DC. Like this is crazy to me because when I think of like all the teams like in my area, like my region, like I think of the Patriots, I think of. Boston's. Jets, Giants, Bills. That's the Patriots. The Boston's, yeah. And I just would never think. Yeah, I would never think of like D.C. I think of all the places you could take a train to in New York that's like an hour, two hours.

45:47Philly, Boston, D.C. You're telling me there's a. And that's like so weird. D.C. is like not a state. No, it's not a state. It's a metropolitan. It is. It's a. It's a capital. District of Columbia. It's a compact city is what Google says on the Potomac River. It's a district of Columbia. Well, that's true, actually. It's also home to iconic museums. I know that the Washington commanders are going to go through another name change. Have you heard about this? They're like, they're not loving. I've heard that they are like feeling something different. I just want to nominate the Ross Washingtons.

46:30Oh, I love it. Because they were the R-skins, right? And then there was like a lot of pressure. So I think they just automatically were like, shit. Okay, Washington Football Club. Yeah, while we are in transition, like this will be. And that was just a bad name because like a football club is a soccer team. Like everybody knows that. Right. So now they're the commanders, which is just like an actual like bad choice. And I think that it often, the names really represent the city. The culture of D.C. So it should be like the Washington politicians. It should be like the Washington Monuments. Senators.

47:04Oh, I like that. The Monuments. Or the Washington. and Georges. Do you not like the senators? I do like the senators. I like it too. I like that too. I think there's actually, there's actually a lot. We just laid out a lot of really good options and you guys went with commanders. The presidents. No, that doesn't like roll off the tongue. I think that's what the commanders was meant to be like commander in chief. Actually, now that I think about it. Oh, it's bad. Literally nobody calls the president the commander in chief. Like that's super crazy to say. Like it could have been the chiefs. It could.

47:37oh my god imagine if it's the commanders versus the chiefs in the super bowl it's the commanders and chiefs that would be actually a good game i am rooting for well now i can find solace if that's the duo that makes it i feel like all these different combinations and permutations like do leave room for excitement like i would of course be excited the chiefs go to super bowl lure at the super bowl i would be excited if the bills go to the super bowl one like for the bills fans like they really deserve it and two for hailey steinfeld like she deserves her moment she's been like waiting in the wings so that's a percent i'm happy with either and then the eagles uh i would be happy i i don't want to i actually don't want to like awaken the beast that is the eagle's no i was about to say something nice oh i like i love the eagles i happen to think it's not their time so i would be happy if the eagles played the chiefs again that would be like funny brotherly love even though he doesn't play anymore but yeah no but he would he's so eagles and then kylie could root for her team like it's cute and it would literally be like battle of the podcasts then if the commanders play the chiefs and we're commanders and chiefs like it yeah if the commanders play the bills i'll have to find an angle watch that's the one that's gonna be so this commanders versus eagles games like i i just i can't see either of these teams winning do you know what i mean i can't see the commanders winning i know but they're also just so new to me like i'm now they felt so far i literally thought they were in the other corner of the country and they're literally right here they're right in your backyard you're actually like a commanders fan commanders fan yeah it's also commanders doesn't roll off the tongue like go commanders commander because it's three syllables yes you have to be like go manders it doesn't work it doesn't work manders anyways the story sisa is joining kendrick lamar for the halftime show in like a big way because it's being announced prior to right they're also going on tour together so this is good promotional for their tour and i do feel like because i was just saying i feel like the halftime show wasn't really like for the girlies before and now I feel like with SZA like they're bringing us in yeah I feel like I feel like um the NFL is like always placating to like their toxic male fans and so like with all these new girlies watching football this year because of Taylor and like the last two years like this was really an opportunity for them to like give us something and while Kendrick Lamar is a fabulous performer he's not for the girls no and no girls like Kendrick Lamar not saying girls don't like Kendrick Lamar girls like boys and boys like girls but it's not like that wasn't a choice for the girlies.

49:59Right. And like, I think that had they given us like Carrie Underwood or something like really swirly, they would have, or God forbid, Kelly Clarkson getting the credit that she deserves or pink. Like if they had given us someone, the toxic fans would have been like, Oh, girls ruining the football. Like, so I think that this is their way of like placating to both SZA and Kendrick Lamar do have two songs together. So I'm sure that's how they'll like weave. transition um so for someone like me who doesn't like to listen to Kendrick Lamar but like I fuck with SZA um I feel like I'll know more songs now yeah me too and I'm hoping this is giving like J-Lo and Shakira being billed together even though like it's Kendrick's show from the jump J-Lo and Shakira were billed together this is like Kendrick's show I'm bringing out SZA and it's going to be more than in just like a flash appearance sort of way because they're promoting it beforehand so I think I think that's exciting and I think that Kelly should actually with her new label like she just needs to be on her vision board yeah literally like she is the queen of the network that hosts the Super Bowl like it's absurd it's absurd she should also I think team up with someone who would cover the areas no I think a man who she likes working with who would cover the areas that are like you mean demographic wise blind spots for Kelly's audience yeah okay but the thing is like if they actually did like a half kelly clarkson half pink one between the two of them so many like mainstream songs that like even like this most stubborn guy would know and i think i think they actually both make up for like kelly's music is very soulful i wouldn't say it's like pussy pop and pink is like rock so it's really like genre wise i think they would cover a lot of bases too they're the same genre and i think no they're not they're not do it on her own they both could i don't know nobody's big like i just don't know if kelly like covers enough enough no but i think we're not because when we think of kelly like we think of our phase but like you have to think of like og kelly how many songs are performed in a super bowl

52:02maybe 15 oh okay i was gonna say 10 first but i felt what doesn't kill you makes you stronger that's not the super bowl performance i want uh no i know but that's what it is with the super bowl like people play their worst songs since you've been gone behind these hazel eyes because of you miss independent miss independent breakaway she would have to do what's her american idol song miss uh breakaway no no no like time lifetime some people play a moment like this a moment like this seven okay let me look i'm sure and then like the ones that we know like piece by piece you think she could do she could not sing piece by piece at the super bowl halftime show but she could broken and beautiful is really big yeah um heartbeat song you think that's big or is it just big for us?

52:50I dare you to love. Oh, she would 100 % do that one. So what am I up to now? I'm definitely up to - 10, nine. Missed it, no, we're all, well, yeah. Oh my gosh. Catch my breath. Claudia, I'm like, seriously, this isn't fair to me. Jackie, wait, this is how it would start. People like us. Claudia, I was just about to start with people like us. Just wait, and then it's like - No, I don't think it would be like that. People like us. people like us we gotta stick together keep your head up nothing lasts forever seriously that's not how i see if you ever want to go for a run but like physically feel unable listen to that song it starts like this kelly clarkson in front of an american flag no no music acapella love straight raw dog people like us we gotta stick together keep a message of unity keep your head Get up, nothing lasts forever.

53:48Boom. Then into something else, maybe. Okay, not only was yours incredibly similar to mine, so you actually just stole it. No, you turned yours into a remix. I'm saying no. It's more of an anthem. It wasn't a remix. Oh, I'm sorry. No, it wasn't a remix. You were doing the best cover. No, no, no, no. Oh my God. No, no, no. I was saying people like us. Silence. She's teasing. we gotta stick together you know what i mean like building up hype and then i think she could do it and of course pink raise your glass i can't even have this conversation because like i want to try and remain positive like for the halftime show that we are getting because this one i know because like we're gonna walk into a disappointed yeah are you ready for our next story number four no is it the next story that's brought to you by hgtv's fabulous new show that was actually made for Charity Luash, right?

54:43The Flip-Off? Yes. Okay, so I talked about this a couple of days ago, but coming up, and I feel like it's what everybody in pop culture is talking about, HGTV, like, had the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever, and let me tell you, they went and did that. So, they have a new show called The Flip-Off, which is a competition style series where, you know, they're facing off and flipping houses, but there's so much subtext here because starring in the show are three people who absolutely mean the world to me and who are my personal Roman empires. It's Christina Hack, Tariq El Moussa, and Heather Rae El Moussa.

55:18So the goal of the show is like a competition style show where they're each going to flip a house and then see who can win. So it's Tariq and Heather versus Christina. Her man is a part of it. It gets kind of complicated because there's more drama over there, but they're basically flipping houses and see who can make like the biggest return on their investment for like you know flipping it for the least amount of money and selling it for the most amount of money so it's like that classic HGTV shtick where it's like we're seeing people build pretty houses and like you know things we would want to do to our house but never would do but then it's also like a kind of juicy reality show because there's like so much between these yeah it's layered really it's HGTV at its best with that epic competition series stunning transformations competitive banter but actually the show gets really raw I saw the first episode it premieres next week and let me tell you I won't spoil it but like it's really crazy and I think that we talk about these three like in the context of pop culture so much and it seems like it's so dramatic and then like seeing behind the curtain like it's actually more dramatic than you would think right and also they actually are very much in each other's lives like they are with interfacing every single day and it's like what did those interactions actually look like well now there's a show and we're gonna find out and the show also chronicles like Christina who we all know is recently divorced like the end of her marriage and like her talking to Tariq about that like it's actually really deep And then the show is just like, you know, fun, swirly HGTV.

56:34They have guest judges, celebrity friends jumping in with the results. It's really fun. The drama is there. And I also love that Heather is a part of it because I think we forget because I know her that's like a reality star, but she is like a OG. She comes from a real estate background. She comes from a real estate background. Like they kind of nailed this. And this is something I feel like we would have said on the show. Like HGTV should give these to show. And like it would have been one of our free ideas that nobody listens to. But this is such a good idea. They took the initiative. they're giving us everything that they want and they're also like bringing the three of them together and it looks from the outside like it's a pargy little blended family well there's like a lot of speculation about what goes on with these this crew because on social media like they're actually always together so this is the first time i think viewers are gonna get like a real inside look people who are obsessed with the el musa clan which obviously obviously we would count ourselves among them also it's the blended sequel that we've been asking for correct um So it's just really brilliant.

57:30It's really fun. I saw the first episode and I won't spoil who won the flip off, but it's really fabulous. And Christina and Heather both have like really different styles for like houses too. So if you're just like into home decor, it's really fun. So the flip off premieres January 29th and it's on Wednesdays at 8, 7 central on HGTV. You don't want to miss it. It's actually like the most toast coated show on the planet. Seriously. It's like, if we had had a network and we always were like, what would our first show be? We would have come up with this idea after a brainstorm. 100%. Like there couldn't be a better show for us and our interests.

58:04And there also couldn't be a better podcast for them to be advertising on. So whoever idea it was to make the show and then promote it here, obviously listens to the show like they know. It has to go on the Toasty Lions list. Yes. By the way, this goes on the Toasty Lions list. It's brilliant marketing. Of excellence in advertising. Mm-hmm. The flip off X the toast. the flip-off exit to a slam you know how i can search it by lindsey hubbard toasty can lion awards for brand partnerships yeah i remember the list it's lindsey hubbard and um the dress company right for her wedding dress again and then it's the guy from smart house partnering up with like a ring doorbell type of company smart yeah they have they have like uh like housewares that like make your house smart yeah genius genius okay well our next story some other big collaboration news Sutton Foster Ben Platt Rachel Zegler and more are joining Trisha Paytas's Broadway show yes that is a real headline Trisha Paytas is taking the stage on February 3rd for Trisha Paytas's big Broadway dream a one-night only musical theater extravaganza She'll be joined by several high profile special guests from the Broadway world, including Sutton Foster, TBD on Hugh Jackman.

59:22But he'll probably be in the audience supporting his gal. Ben Platt, Rachel Zegler and Joy Woods. It's called Trisha Paytas' Big Broadway Dream. Let's make a meme come true. No, this is so funny in so many ways. But and not while it's like impressive. The only real shocking part of this is Sutton Foster. because like Ben Platt, Rachel Zegler, these are like chronically online people who probably like know Trisha Paytas. To see the evolution of Trisha Paytas like as somebody who was so thoroughly canceled, not only to rise up from the ashes, but like the levels that she's reached in the last month on SNL, Broadway, Sutton Foster, like you absolutely love to see it for a creator, for a woman in the canceled sphere.

1:00:01Like it's really, it's beautiful. I don't understand Sutton Foster being here. And while I love it because she is currently, like she is the darling of Broadway it's great for for Trisha it's great for Sutton I think Sutton probably lacks like that sort of virality yeah so like I get it but I could see like Trisha Paytas like having these other other people's phone numbers and being like hey will you come to the show I don't know how she got connected to Sutton Foster right I do wonder like what the content of the show is going to be it's like one night only so what would you do for like just one night and I also wonder if this makes her Tony eligible give Trisha Paytas the Tony I what if Trisha Paytas is the next EGOT I could see it I just want to say I could see it like that's not the craziest thing I've ever heard she just went on tour so a little tour so I have to imagine that this show is like her New York stop stop you think no I think I the I mean maybe you're right but just the vibe I got it's at her it's like her dream to be on Broadway and this will be like a special Broadway show.

1:01:04Yeah, I'm sure it'll be special, but I think the core of the show, which she, it was like, it wasn't like, it was a rehearsed choreograph. She had dancers and outfits. It's a musical about her journey on the internet. It was very funny. Oh, beautiful. I think that it's going to be that. Oh yeah, that makes complete sense. I didn't realize that's what she was doing on tour. So now she'll do it on Broadway. It's just like if we did a Gizno, like on Broadway, then we're on Broadway. Of course, no. And when you like book a theater in New York, if you're like a performer who does live podcasting or standup, like one of the theaters that is an option for you to perform at.

1:01:33It's like a Broadway theater. And then you make it like a whole thing. Like, yeah, we're on Broadway. Yeah, okay. I also, I actually, now that I think about it, I do kind of understand Sutton Foster being here. Sutton Foster's having like a little bit of a moment because Younger was just added to Netflix. And I think that while that show obviously meant a lot to us, at the time it was on Lifetime Network. It was like this attempt by Lifetime to like renew. And while the show was successful, I don't think this like big Lifetime campaign was. So people don't actually really know it. and I think that it being on Netflix and it's in the top I see it now when I'm scrolling I think she's being introduced to a whole new audience of people probably who overlap with Trisha Paytas's fans so I actually think this might be like having related to that interesting well I'm happy for everyone to be watching younger I'll be so curious like what the youngsters think of Charles and Josh and which team they're on well even like the toasters who like I would assume if you listen to the toast you know younger I saw people posting in the Facebook group being like oh my god Jackie he and Claudia keep talking about Sutton Foster I have no idea who that is but I just started watching Younger and like that's who's dating Hugh Jackman that's who's dating Hugh Jackman and by the way Hugh Jackman is Charles yeah Hugh Jackman is Charles yeah and yeah I'm looking forward to what like the younger audience thinks of because Younger and Charles and Josh is like the younger version of Big and Aiden from Sex and the City and so yes it is oh it 100 % is I think big and Aiden are more similar than Charles and Josh like I think oh yeah yeah yeah I think like really there are two types of like team Josh people and team Charles people like you are so different but the case could be made because I'm like I guess I'm team big but like big didn't like her so like by the way I'm team neither like seriously no actually I don't think either of them were I don't think Carrie was good enough for either like I don't think Carrie was good enough for Aiden but like no she definitely wasn't yeah I don't think they would have made each other happy and also I don't this is not about watch what happens next in five years in five years and just like that I like watch what happens next me too um because I don't know if like Carrie and Aiden up together but the show that we watched Sex and the City like she could not have given Aiden like the life that he wanted no she would if she had like truly kept him and and she could have she would have ruined his life yeah the best thing Carrie ever did for Aiden didn't wish to cheat on him because it gave him really no choice even when they got back together afterwards like you never really he never got over it so it was the best thing because he was forced to move on and he went on and had three beautiful children with that lady named Kathy like it was good yeah and big like yeah he didn't like her and he was like this miserable wench but like so was she that's what she wanted yeah it's so true that you want it so bad good you got it you got um with Charles and Josh like they were so different it's true and they both love Liza they both love Liza so she's not like choosing a guy who's bad for her they're both good for her and they both love her but it's just like what does your dream life look like and I think that it really just speaks to the type of person you are if you like because I and I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't seen the show so I won't but like I was like I'm a Charles girl and that's because I'm in love with Peter Herman who plays Charles because he's married to like the queen of America Mariska Hargitay but listen different strokes like seriously if Josh like ever came up to me in a bar I'd be like get the fuck away from me do you know what I mean no but for so many people like Josh is a dream man yeah I know and they're not I think it marks a cultural no it more I think it marks a cultural and a real generational difference because like within the men in our own generation there is divide but also like the the heartthrob of sex in the city like was big because like at the time that's what an attractive man looked like that's what a man like a bachelor but same for aiden same for aiden like he's a very so that's why it's just not totally comfortable anyways but he was just like a little bit more rugged you know watch the show drop a comment team charles or team josh will judge accordingly yeah oh and by the way i judge like when i was in high school you know one of my best friends is team josh and like and now i understand her like more as a person who rebecca is team josh i actually I think I can do that.

1:05:42Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because see, I mean, also, like, we were talking about him like he's, like, a cretin. He's so handsome. So handsome. So handsome. It's just, like, he's younger than, like, it's just. He's just no Charles. He's no Charles. No, the thing is, is, like, when I was in high school, I was watching The Real Housewives of New York, and when Bethany and Jill broke up, like, that was one of the biggest things that ever happened to me, and I took it so personal. I'll never remember, I'll never forget one of my friends was Team Bethany, and, like, I was so staunchly Team Jill. I actually started to look at her differently.

1:06:09Like I couldn't conceive how she disagreed with me. And that's really how I feel about Charles versus Josh. Like it's so obvious to me like that Charles is the one, but people like really die for Josh. And more so, I think there were some people who were like team Aiden, but like everybody was team big. I think with Josh, it's like actually 50-50. Yeah. Aiden was really like an interloper. Same with Edward and Jacob. Yeah. He's just an interloper and like an already written love story. Like this is just like - Yeah, get out of here, scram. Totally different. but with Bethany and Jill, I know I've gone back and forth on it so many times over the years and you like rewrought stuff and you see it differently.

1:06:45So I actually don't remember whose side I was on at the time. I feel like I was on Bethany's side because I remember watching the scene of like Jill in Luann's apartment and like Luann is like shielding Jill from like scary big - It was Ramona's apartment, yes. Scary big Bethany. And I'm like, and I just remember feeling like they're being wrong. So when I was in high school, I was team Jill. Like seriously, you could not pry Jill from my cold dead hands. During COVID, I re-watched Real Hostos in New York. And while I left with a renewed appreciation for Jill Zarin, probably one of the best housewives to ever do it, re-watching that argument, she was wrong.

1:07:19She had a little bit of a leg to stand on and she took it so far that she ended up being wrong. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Like she was the wronged party for like a second and she like loved being the victim. So she destroyed Bethany because of it and she took it way too far. Yeah, agreed. Our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap. Southern Charm was on last night and Craig Conover says that he would have proposed to Paige prior to the breakup he said if it was up to me like I would propose to her but that she changed her mind a lot so in a conversation with Craig last night we're getting like with Craig and Shep we're getting more insight into Paige and Craig's relationship and he was sharing how like if it was up to him he would propose to her right now he's ready to have kids but he was like in the grand scheme of things if I need to wait a few years to have kids with her like that's fine but then he's like but what if it winds up being 10 years like right now he's like I would be okay with three or four years for like the dream woman yeah but then it's like but what if she changes her mind like what if it's 10 years because he was saying like you know sometimes she's like let's get married and move to a farm and then the next day she's like oh I had a great day in New York like I love it here I'm not and then the next day that's so real the next day she's like I'm moving to Charleston and no something about New York like one day you're ready to give it all up like you are just going to a farm and the next the next day you kind of have like an amazing day you're like I can never leave yeah yeah yeah so he is sharing that she like changed her mind a lot and I think like their future what their future looked like was never like set in stone and it's like I I feel like this whole time we've been like waiting for them to like get to what the future looks like which we all sort of like knew what that would be like for them but the fact that they couldn't align on it is really what ended things for them but then also like that she ultimately ended it because when you hear this it's like okay well then Craig got tired of waiting right that's what you think but knowing that she ended it no I would have kept waiting I think that she finally figured out what her future looks like and it didn't involve him I agree sad which is so sad and that's what we were saying like if that's the case that's the saddest way that this could have ended like the fact that it wasn't about you know timing it was just about the fact that actually this is not the life I want the person I want no matter like how much I do like you and that's that's really devastating as a stand of these two like that that based on just what I'm seeing on social media and in the show like that I think that's what happened yeah I think so too um but anyways the episode last night was really good JT is just seriously being a crazy person so Taylor has a new boyfriend and I can't I Taylor's really and I have a hard time getting a read out of a lot of people on the show because they're always cycling them in and out and like I don't have time to get to know them and Taylor I really can't get a read on because like she seems like so nice and genuine but then like she was kissing Austin lying to her best friend to her face like over and over again i'm like what kind of like nice like in a genuine type of way in such a genuine way like i seriously feel so bad for her um and i think she's just like having a hard time on the show so she has this new boyfriend gaston and yes his name is gaston yeah and so we just have to like talk about gaston in earnest like that's his name that's hard and gaston has like history with a girl who just came on the show sally who i was having a hard time getting a read on Sally and then I saw that she was on The Bachelor and I saw her clip on The Bachelor and I had to watch it because I was I've been having a hard time.

1:10:27Whose season? She was on Clayton's season. She comes on the show before even the first night of limos or anything. She is having a hard time because this was the day she was supposed to get married. She was engaged in her hometown and I think her fiance like cheated on her or something so called off the wedding and went on The Bachelor. And the day of the first ceremony is the day she was supposed to get married. So she goes to Clayton's room before limos or anything and is like, I'm having a hard time. And I wanted to meet you to see like if I should be here because I'm having a hard time. And she leave.

1:11:06Wait, so they're talking and she's very beautiful girl. And so like, of course, he's like no stay I like you and he's like so much so I want to give you the first rose like please I want you here like please be like a participation award like no not even that like that's a big gesture as opposed to just being like be here stay it'll be good like here's a rose you're going into next week like I like you in this five minutes that you've been complaining to me like I do really like him and she thinks she has to leave the room and think about it and she declines the rose and she leaves honestly I love that no but like what what were you hoping for and she said like I feel this between you and I but like I just can't be here so like what was your express purpose when you went to meet Clayton to see if like you would like him you just said that you would like him so it just didn't like it maybe she didn't like him and she don't mean maybe but it just like made me feel like what's what's this person's like desire end game and now she's on Southern Charm and even in the few conversations that she had like she was spilling all this tea to Madison and Paige a few weeks ago and in every way like she was just saying Gaston called me and they're like oh because she has history with Gaston and they're like well what did he say and she's like he said to keep my name out of his mouth and they're like what do you mean like they're pulling everything out of her and I really just feel like she's trying to like make so many moments she keeps on she keeps saying I have Gaston's name in my mouth I have Gaston's name in my mouth like there's other ways to say that like it's just like stop talking about a little sexual yeah I'm talking about Gaston um so I'm just like trying to like suss out I feel like she also just is like very much doing the show thing and that kind of like is irksome to me well so you saying that she's it was on the bachelor gives me like a little bit of like red flag thirsty reality star but then her leaving like kind of negates no I know and if I I think someone who's been on the bachelor who then lives in Charleston is like a girly about town and is like in the mix right for the picking to be on this show like they're ready for reality tv so I'm not gonna like hold that against her it's just like something that I've got to keep in mind and then our other new girl molly who was just such a darling and i'm i know i remember her and i saw that clip of whitney telling her to stop eating the cupcake right and i'm sure i'm not alone in this but like she's in her confessional has been saying really sweet things about shep like how shep would be a dream man like he's very educated and he's very sweet and like she would love to end up with a guy like shep and right now shep is dating a girl in the bahamas who i think this season and all season he's talking about how he's fallen so fast for her he could see himself living in the Bahamas just giving it all up like Jimmy Buffett on the beach like he's obsessed with this girl and I think from the second half of the season like things turn really south I think she's like been using him to get on the show like I think it gets like I think they take a group trip to the Bahamas like to see her and I think it all goes south so like I know Heartbreak is waiting for Shep and then in his confessionals like he's saying really sweet stuff about Molly because she's a trained tuba player she plays in the Charleston concert band they all went to her concert on last night's episode and she's a former model she was on America's Next Top Model which is so crazy and she was doing her tuba concert they all came out to support it was so sweet and like nobody does wholesome hobbies like that anymore and i'm like no that's really this storyline of molly and her tuba and how she fell back into tuba like after modeling didn't work out because she has the thyroid issue so she's gained weight and she's like also feeling self-conscious but she's also so confident and she's got her tuba and like shep loves a tuba and shep really respected someone who would like appreciate a woman who's like yeah he's like a well-educated.

1:14:19So these two, I'm telling you, this is how the story ends. Shep and Molly, like I ship so hard. I think, I think they'll also see what each other is saying about them on the show because like it's really starting in an earnest way and I think that she would actually be a really great woman, girlfriend, especially now that he was like ready to settle down with Sierra. So he might be like looking for that again because I feel like with Taylor, he just never wanted to settle down even though Taylor was like a totally lovely girlfriend to him. Yeah. So it's all sort of a mess and I just feel like Taylor, like, so anyways Gaston like doesn't come on the show she doesn't want to hear anything that Gaston did in his past like how Sally had an affair with him and that's how their relationship started whatever and like I'm with I'm with Taylor I think she should leave the show I just think the show is bad for her when she came on the show like she had a like a serious job and she and she was like a plus one so it wasn't really about her it was like she was Shep's girlfriend and like she's just going through it and the show is not good for her and now everyone has decided like we're gonna go out in on Taylor's relationship and it's the one thing in her life making her happy her brother passed away a year ago just like go be with your boyfriend whether it works out or not like he makes you happy at the moment like please go and then they can turn on each other yeah yeah now they just all talk about Taylor when she's not there yeah that's yeah so um stay make it sound good stays being the greatest show on earth the greatest show on earth is actually the toast and something amazing that we do here every Friday is Queenie and Weenie of the Week, where Jackie and I give out two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week, to two different people, institutions, people, places, things, that acted like a Weenie this week or a Queenie this week.

1:15:51Now, it's not that serious. It is a seven-day title, although my Weenie this week is actually like bordering on like, honestly, the title of Weenie of the Week might be like too generous, but we'll get there. I understand. Queenie first? Of course. We always start with the good news. my Queenie of the Week is Sex Change Operation like the way that song has actually brought me so much joy and like all the clips like the amount of content I've consumed like engaging with it I actually now I kind of like the song and I understand why it's nominated for an Oscar and I really like it like I just was watching this hilarious video of Katya and Trixie like listening to it for the first time like seeing people have that experience like Sex Change Operation and I love that they've now been nominated for so many Oscars because like it's going to continue to be a part of the conversation.

1:16:39Is that specific song nominated for an Oscar? Oh, that's a good question. I'm not sure, but like the film is. And to me, the film is that one scene. No, but it's like, would they be playing that? Maybe that's why they canceled performances because like the world couldn't handle that. Because they would have to, right, because it would be like so glaringly obvious. Maybe that's why they, because they have two songs from Amelia Perez nominated. And I just want to say, amelia prez was one nomination away from tying with the most nominated oscar movie of all time which is what i don't know the wizard of oz probably like i mean gone with the wind most nominee 14 oscars though is the most and it goes and they have 13 13 nods for amelia prez the previous uh record holders were roma and crouching tiger hit hidden dragon with 10 each wait who has 14 oscar oh no all about eve titanic and la la land titanic are you kidding me titanic and amelia perez and right those people died for what to be compared to amelia spot the difference i can't who's your queenie my queenie was carrie underwood for her rendition of america the beautiful going at acapella queenie behavior that actually was queen that was a very much queenie behavior hold on also honestly honorable mention to camilla cabello oh i agree coming in under the wire yeah wait so i'll write down our queenies and weenies now and i just am gonna need you to properly title your queenie sex change operation song no you have to say it like this sex change operation and you see at the end of the clip when he's like saying he's like rhinoplasty yes reginoplasty yes yes yes and then there was one that she adam's apple reduction yes yes yes yes i'm telling you you guys it is seriously the funniest thing that's ever happened to me you know but it's it's really like it's so crazy but that's it's so crazy right one oscar nom shy of Titanic yeah who is your weenie so I it's like weenie doesn't even begin to cover it but like this week I've been consumed with thoughts of that husband who's sending pictures of his wife naked to his friends like now so if it turns out that he's like an actual predator that's obviously like bigger than weenie um but it just I couldn't let the week go by without like acknowledging this person in an official capacity no I totally agree from dear toasters if you haven't tuned into Wednesday's episode Deer's oh excuse me Tuesday's episode Deer Toasters was like seriously one of the craziest it's ever been and I've been thinking so much about her okay I'm jotting it down even though like my weenie now would just like pale in comparison to that I know that's what I mean like I'm overusing the weenie like it's too big I know I know but I understand I understand what about you well I was gonna do like like Kyle Richards storm out but like not after what you just said.

1:19:39Honestly. That was like classic weenie. That was just like weenie. But if you look up weenie in the dictionary, it's Kyle Richards at the spa day. I think you have to do it. That's a great one. I almost made Garcelle my queenie because I had made her my weenie and I wanted to, she undid a little bit of the weeniness that she exerted a couple of weeks ago at that dinner when she was like inserting herself in something that really had nothing to do with her. But sex change operation took the cake. I agree. I think I need to see more queenie behavior from Garcelle for her to be the queenie. Just because there's been a lot of - But I could co-sign Kyle as your weenie like 100%.

1:20:11Okay. I should have gotten first though. Yeah, 1 ,000%. But we actually don't tell each other our weenies and queenies before the show. We like to be surprised. So there's no way to properly and like appropriately plan who goes first. And I'm jotting down the herstory of weenies for 2025. Jackie, that's beautiful. Yeah. So that's our show. The next time I see me - I'll be out of here. like let's just have one moment of silence for this place okay should i sing us a song you okay you could sing but i get to choose a song goodbye goodbye goodbye bigger than the sky goodbye goodbye goodbye you were bigger than the whole sky you were more than just a short life I've got a lot to pine about.

1:21:00I've got a lot to dream about. I'm never gonna meet. What could have been, would have been. What should have been you. These four walls. What should have been these four walls. Came down around us. What'd you call me, J.J. Abram? I said DJ Earworm. I said DJ Earworm. literally no higher compliment in the world than calling me dj earworm so true like oh okay i have a knack for music i've got a knack thank you so much listening to the tost and landed morning show we tell you the fastest stories you need to every monday to friday on youtube so if you're watching this on youtube please feel free to subscribe and give us a video thumbs up we're also available as podcast and where podcasts can be found so that's spotify tune stitcher public radio radio cast box all the places where you visit podcast finance or tostally advice to review about a beautiful about a stunning about how wickedly talented we are love you bye let's do the heart come on try something new fuck it up okay try something now actually it's better if we if only one variable changes but it's fine love you bye