Showing Up For Ourselves In A Meaningful Way That We Can Be Proud Of: Wednesday, March 26th, 2025

0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy wednesday it is hump day and i literally feel like a humpback whale so things i did that hey jacks how you're celebrating she's on brand uh hey turtle loo i'm doing good i didn't even realize it was hump day because like my week is split in two because today i'm traveling it's a travel day hence why i look the way i do i'm not even wearing shoes it's just a mess. She's so crazy. And I'm getting my hair cut tonight. So I didn't do my hair. So it's just like one of those like travel day episodes where Chris Appleton comes in and tells you you're ugly.

0:58Yeah. I do want to say like upon seeing you this morning, like I thought you looked totally beautiful. Oh, thank you. I mean, I did like do all my makeup and like it's like I brushed my hair and put it in a bun. I guess I don't know. It's the lack of shoes that's throwing me off. But I'm able to sit crisscross applesauce and I'm cozy as heck. I don't wear shoes all the time on the show like as long as you're wearing socks you're in the clear by the way i will never know what's going on with your feet because i can't see your feet no but when i yeah i guess um i also have a busy day kind of preparing for your arrival i have a lot of things i need to do in preparation a lot the eagle is landing a lot goes into me arriving we got to get the strollers out of storage i got to hit the kosher grocer to make sure there's cut up fruit and rotisserie chicken like there's lots to do now I know obviously your day is much harder uh my day is no walk in the park no and I did feel bad even asking you for anything considering no like you're going through a lot but I do know like you do make your way to the kosher grocer so I was like I do travels and I know you always like to come with stuff and so you were probably going anyway so I was like I was can I request a chicken I'm also at the phase of pregnancy where like laying around like doesn't make me feel good and even though I like begrudgingly leave the house and go for walks and Like just do random shit.

2:10Like I'm literally getting three manicures a week because being out of the house, I do think is better for me. I get better sleep at night. Like I need to be doing stuff. So you giving me stuff to do, it's okay. That's funny. I understand. I actually did get a manicure yesterday. Parji. Parji. Speaking of Parji, I'm so excited about a new development at Toast headquarters. We've always had really cute Instagram stickers. Like if you search for GIFs on your Instagram stories, if you search like The Toast or Asher or Girl With No Job, you'll be able to find ones we've had made that say like our isms.

2:40Now they say premium content, they say P-JOM, they say nothing of the sort. There's a little thing of Theo. I gotta get one of Romeo. We haven't updated them in a while. What about Brutus? Bruno's not there. Right, so like you have Theo, you wanna get Romeo, but not Bruno, who's given his all to the show yesterday. To be honest, the little gif we have of Theo actually looks more like Bruno. And it also looks like Romeo. I don't think we need separate ones. They're all twins, by the way. Whatever. To the untrained eye. I'm getting off track. To the untrained eye, they all look the same. Yesterday, we published new stickers because we need a sticker.

3:11Like sometimes you take a picture of like a beautiful landscape or a cocktail or whatever you're posting on your story. And it's just like pargy, you know, and you need a sticker that represents that. So there are now pargy, pargylicious and gargy pargy stickers that you can search on Instagram and put on your Instagram stories to narrate something that you find pargylish. But I also think we should make more stickers like in different fonts because right now it's like I love it. The word art one, but like maybe something also a little more aesthetic, like like for sure handwriting. Maybe we could contract her to write us one.

3:44Yeah. Lives to complain. I got him up in like two hours and I had them all made. Like, please, my God. Always, always critiquing me. How did you get them made? I have my ways. Word art? No. I have my ways. I got them up literally in two hours. Like, sorry that you're critical. I'm glad that we have something. And sometimes that's the vibe. I used them last night. I was the first. I was an early adapter. I was an early adapter. You were the first one to use it. You make one like however you think is most part. You send it to me. I'll get it uploaded. Okay. Maybe I can even do my handwriting. Embrace my inner Megan.

4:17Kind of like people who get tattoos. Yeah. Of like handwriting. We're so authentic. We can't even pay for a font. Fonds are expensive. They are expensive. go with the free ones but then the good ones are like you have to pay for well i did go with the free ones and now i'm getting criticized on my own podcast i don't think it was a criticism i think it was just like an enhancement and like and also this you know what i mean okay no you're giving me jobs i wasn't saying instead of i'm saying and also like i'm just really excited sorry excitement no i'm excited too i'm excited too i can't wait to see what you come up with thanks it's just like fun the more the merrier for sure for sure so excited very very thrilling you also today look like you work in finance like in a good way oh my god I do let me tell you so I'm at the stage of pregnancy where like this skims maternity top and these lululemon size 16 leggings like are the only things that really make me feel comfortable so I have to put on different things on top of it to like switch it up for the podcast I own one vest it's also hot in here so I can't wear like a sweater or cardigan every day it's getting warmer it's great a vest is great I only have one vest I wore it last week so I have to wait till next week to like wear it again um so I was like Ben do you have a vest the vest was disgusting yeah I used to work at Goldman Sachs here you know this is like a it's a golf vest which is like the yes the finance correlation um it's like a Patagonia it's I look like such a douche lord like when Ben got out of the shower and I was like dressed wearing his vest he was like what are you wearing she's going to sell stocks I literally don't give a fuck you know what I think it's a cool look you should also wear a hat and a backpack no I think you look cool it's like a nice vibe no it's definitely like a unique choice um I'm comfortable and at this moment in time like that's really all I can care about and it's like cold in New York I looked at the weather it was a low of 37 yeah but that's high of 53 yeah I walked to work today it wasn't like did you wear a jacket over your vest I didn't I was hot interesting but I'm gonna be traversing all day running errands for you so i thought i might need a coat i but no a vest is perfect because like you'll be hot in a coat but you do need pockets you said that vest was disgusting they were real that day i wore a vest because that vest are so kind of amazing my armpits feel so free a big hit no vests are amazing because it's like here have a pocket say no more right here cover your love handles yeah I might wear a vest with this because I like wearing a vest on the plane for the pockets.

6:50It's a good thing to wear on a travel day. For my ID. So it can fall out of your pocket. For your ID, yes. Yeah, and my phone. Chapstick. Trips to the Cape. Maybe I'll find money in here. No. Because he was making all that money. From finance. No, him like betting people on the golf course, you know? Yeah. Or like tip money for the caddy. There's no money in here. Should have known better. I'm sorry. Well, we have a great show today because we have the Real Hot Spaces in Beverly Hills recap at the end of today's episode. We also have the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And how are those stories that you need to know?

7:24Do you really need to know them, you think? They came together in a meaningful way. And the stories, I would say, are showing up for us today. It's so important. Small but mighty stories. It's important that we show up for one another in meaningful ways. And that you like the way that you are showing up for yourself. That's a new thing people like to say. I didn't like how I was showing up for myself. I actually haven't heard that one. Oh, I've been seeing that a lot. Like you need to show up for yourself. Claudia, I don't know. It's like the new ism. I feel like it just means like how I am. Like your mood?

7:56No, just like if you say I don't like how I am right now, say that's what you're trying to say. I wasn't showing up. But in what essence? I don't like how I physically look. I don't like my mental state. Mental state. Like I'm not happy. Say I'm not happy. Okay. Yeah. Your disposition. Disposition. Yeah, like I'm just like not in a good place. They would say, I don't, I wasn't showing up for myself in a way that I was happy with or was proud of. Just like, that's the new, just look out for it. I'm telling you, I called you on holding space for two things. Yes. Yes. Watch out a little late to that.

8:24Actually, that one really took off. Watch out for showing up now. We're not holding. We're showing. I can promise our listeners that I'm going to show up today in a way that I am proud of. Yeah, I hope so. So, I mean, as much as we can do a Nasafi, we're trying to, even though like we've already screwed the pooch, we're incapable of doing Nasafis anymore. The thing is, is it's so crazy because we do a daily show. Nasafi is an opposite of Nalafi and Nalafi is a nice long one for you. And we're talking about the length of our episodes. Yes, they have been getting a lot. We haven't done an episode under an hour in years.

8:59And the crazy part of that is, is that you would think that because we do a daily show, we do five times more episodes than the average podcast. like you would think that it would be enough. And not only for us, like we would have enough time to say what we need to say, but also like the listeners would have enough. Let me tell you, the longer our episodes, the better our numbers. Like people want two episodes a day now. Like that's kind of becoming a new podcast format, multiple episodes a day, kind of like mimicking like, I guess like cable where like there's things on all day. You like release podcasts all day.

9:29Don't expect that from us. No. No, don't. And there's our like Nisafis. yeah they're like 15 minutes and it's like is anyone actually listening because what are they saying all's that to say you would think that like that would be enough meanwhile at the end of every week i'm like oh my god i forgot to talk about like six things on the toast this week meanwhile every episode went extra long we're pushing 90 minutes almost on a daily basis even days where we're recording early today because jackie is a flight like just trying to cushion for time we will still you'll be late to your flight don't worry thanks thanks so much um so yeah i think like without further ado we should get into the last five stories that you do need to know okay I did also just want to share like one personal anecdote I'm sorry before it better be so good I just oh it's not okay it's really not so I'm curious no I just wanted to share like you know of course I'm not buying anything for this next chapter of my life like there's nothing going on nothing coming in coming out but I did purchase a new chair for my home it's a chair that reclines it's a chair that rocks back and forth well no actually i did receive a gifting thank you so much um you should know better for putting me on the spot yes i didn't purchase it um and i just you know i've been needing a new place to sit and just sort of relax and let me tell you it really makes me jealous of the people who like have their nurseries ready like three months in because the excitement that this one chair has brought me it's not normal well new furniture is always exciting especially that's true i've been spending a lot of time in my own little corner in my own little chair where i can be whatever i want to be i'll use the chair while i'm there yes that's why i got it i got it because jackie's coming to town and i know she loves to sit and i thought that that was uh a good use of my gifting is to get a chair for my sister to sit in yeah like this week you never know when a nap is gonna need to happen right and i don't want you to be in my home and that kind of not be able to rock my child to sleep like that would be right right right right or even yourself or even yourselves so yeah it wasn't like an amazing anecdote i just like was sharing a personal update i'll never do it again a lot of pressure i'm in a nasafi day now this nasafi is brought to you by booking.com booking.

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14:47Like you talking about like the pollen and the need for the sneeze made me sneeze. Thanks, coach. Someone talking about lice making your head itchy is such a real experience. Right. Like that's what that was. You were like going in depth on sixth season and I had a reaction. um let's get into the story shall we I guess our first story which I know is really near and dear to your heart and actually both of our hearts it's a kind of a it's a combo it's a combo of our favorite subjects I wouldn't say for like our queens are you talking about Gwyneth and Megan yeah but like I wouldn't say Megan is my queen you know I think it's a little more complicated than that yeah you're a little too critical of her like in an honest and endearing way to have her be considered your queen whereas like Gwyneth could seriously kill somebody and I would find a way to defend it so we're just like heavily interested in both of them but like as a queen elizabeth stan like megan will never be my queen sorry right she is my queen rip megan markle and gwyneth paltrow addressed their rumored beef during a surprise hangout so over the last few days we talked about a little bit last week when it was asked about megan she gave a very non-shady response um that everyone took to be shady and then she posted a video of herself making breakfast in her kitchen just like a pargy vibe eggs bacon coffee Montecito and put on the song everlasting love over the video and people really took that to be a dig at Megan and honestly I thought it was a little shady oh my god so I don't know just the way it was being positioned I was like oh is this a shade no way honestly I saw people like I saw people pitting them against each other before there was anything to even work on because they're in a similar it's the same thing that happened with Kourtney Kardashian.

16:22Like people just assume that if you're encroaching on the wellness space, like Gwyneth is the queen and time after time, she shows you exactly who she is. She does not care about other women entering the space. She's extremely supportive. She's also extremely secure in her own business. Like no one's really going to come. Goop is a billion dollar company. Like good luck, everybody else. Please join me up here. I welcome you. She has never done what people thought she's going to do when like another female celebrity enters the wellness space. So with this Megan thing, it was like, have we, did we learn nothing from Kourtney Kardashian?

16:48there's no world in which Gwyneth would have given a shit or like felt competitive or shady towards Megan I think if anything like so but before even the Instagram story or the Vanity Fair people had been commenting being like oh Gwyneth is rolling over and she's not she wasn't I never thought for one second that Gwyneth like had anything negative to say or think about Megan I believed I took her at her word because she's not like a jealous or competitive person and like we've seen that time and again. But I thought when she posted that breakfast video and maybe I don't see enough of her content, maybe she posts that all the time.

17:23So like - She does. This was unlike it. But when it was like framed like that and she used the song, I thought maybe she was maybe just like stunned in a little. Like - No. Now this is how you do breakfast in Montecito. She's known for her breakfast. She does hashtag boyfriend breakfast. When she started dating Brad Falchuk, this is like, this is why I made my boyfriend for breakfast. And now she like always calls it boyfriend breakfast. I've seen her make like a thousand breakfasts. Right. It's so, if you know Gwyneth, like I do on like a deep spiritual emotional like level you never thought anything of it so she did a Q &A on her Instagram someone asked are you comprehending the Meghan Markle beef that social media says you two have and she's like no I don't understand this at all and she turns the camera she's like do you understand this and it's Meghan like chuckling and taking a bite of the food that Gwyneth has made them now let me tell you while I never thought these two had beef I never expected to see them sitting at Gwyneth's dining room table no same especially because people had said they both live in Montecito and it was said that they are they've never met or if they've met they're not friends so that just points to like the opposite or I actually think that like a lot of I could see Gwyneth saying that thing in her vanity fair or whatever it was that got taken miss like out of context I could see Gwyneth having reached out yeah like by the way I didn't say this I know you live nearby if you want to like come over for coffee and chat like I think you're great and I can actually see like people thinking that they were not friendly with one another bringing them together having been the thing i totally agree that's how i saw it go down to like a clarification text message hey let's get together yeah having my people call your people yeah now it takes a lot to shock me i was genuinely i thought she was just turning it's like her assistant or something well by the way if you watch the q a she's doing it at the same kitchen table like the whole day and she was asked a question about being like a female founder and She's like, oh, I'm actually sitting here with my partner.

19:10And they turn the camera to the partner who's sitting like in Megan's seat at the time. And they answer this question about like being a woman in business. So when she turned the camera, I thought she was going back to her partner. Yeah. Do you think Gwyneth will do her podcast of Confessions of a Female Founder? That's a really good question because Gwyneth has a podcast, a very successful podcast. Nikki Glaser is actually on it this week. I was seeing clips that actually looked like I wanted to watch it. I feel like when you have a podcast You're more inclined to do a podcast Or like if you're gonna do it Do you want it on your podcast or on the other person's podcast Sometimes you do a pod swap in a situation like that Yeah I feel like celebrities at this tier Like we're getting one not two pod swaps You know what I mean?

19:51I don't know if they have two in them No I agree I think that it would be great for Megan to go on the Goop podcast To promote her own podcast and all of her brands I agree with that And I think for Gwyneth, like she's the more established podcaster and business person here. I think she should host. Yes. And then also, did you hear the trailer for Confessions of a Female Founder? It dropped two days ago yesterday. I didn't watch it with sound because I saw the trailer and I saw that Megan is not recording in a studio. She's recording with people on Zoom and a podcast microphone giving COVID. and I really realized kind of the level of effort being put into this project.

20:31And if she's not gonna put in the effort, I'm not gonna put in the effort to watching the trailer. Like I was really disappointed. Like female founders, I thought we were gonna see them all looking parchy together in a studio. Where are the clips? No, Zoom, what is, seriously, what is it, 2020? That's really crazy. And if you're doing Zoom, you better get the best guess ever because there's no reason why you can't. There's no scheduling conflict. I listened in the podcast app. So I had the podcasting experience. the audio experience and the visual so together we had one full thing and i found it really impossible to finish even just the trailer it was just really um it was really difficult and i didn't even know who we're talking to who was she talking to anyone we know right that's the thing like what i saw did she show people it was just the back of her computer okay so i i don't even know who we're talking to and then it's all these like you know tropes of just like cliche shit and maybe that's the trailer i'll just keep giving her chances um but i couldn't finish the trailer else to say no and it's like with podcasting it's like she's almost always there but not quite like even with archwell i or what was it called archetypes she didn't do video which like in this day and age your podcast doesn't exist if you don't have a video and she had these premium people but a lot of it was like smartless literally unless you're smartless she had all these premium guests who she wasn't recording with in person.

21:53There were all these like pre-taped segments to like fill airtime. So she was almost there. She got the guests. She didn't really quite get the content and the video wasn't there. So this time around, I really thought, because what she's doing is just kind of mimicking other successful ways of making money online. Like she has the affiliates and she's doing Instagram content, but she's doing it all at like, she's operating at a, a bad level. It's like the Instagram stories are blurry. Now we're getting Zoom podcasting. Like Lemonada would stand for this. I find that shocking. Oh, Lemonada had like a Parchi intro in the beginning.

22:25What was it? Oh, like this. You are listening to a Lemonada podcast. Something like that, but it was like so Lemonada. Can I play it? I feel like they will love that. You will love it.

22:39Lemonada. That's it? That's it. Like you're at a spot. Whose voice was that? Megan or no just like no I think that's like Lemonada's thing the CEO of Lemonada I liked that short and sweet yeah like you're at a spa so I don't think especially now knowing what we know about the level of production I don't think Gwyneth will be going on female founding podcast fathers whatever it's called but I do think we could see Megan on Goop have you seen the Goop podcast it's pargy like literally the sick studio it's so gwen is aesthetic like very neutral beige like really high quality video high quality audio it's what you come to expect from a billionaire who's doing a podcast yeah so that's the latest we'll see what's next yeah are you ready for our next story which is actually some crazy influencer news that dropped yesterday that has a jewish world in a tizzy oh my god tizzy that uh Alex Earl sued a British fitness brand Gymshark for one million dollars after it axed her sponsorship deal over quote pro-Israel views so Gymshark was which is a British fitness brand has settled a claim for one million dollars from Alex Earl after they allegedly axed her sponsorship deal over online criticism of her pro-Israel views she filed allegations against the company at the high court arguing it owed her the equivalent of 770 ,000 pounds in damages for terminating the deal prematurely.

24:07So Alex Earl on October 7th. No, this is so crazy because what one brand, like this brand perceived Alex Earl as being like radically pro-Israel and they found that so offensive, right? Whereas if you remember at the time, I was very invested in like what people were posting on social media because this was like sort of the craziest thing to happen to my people in my lifetime. And I remember seeing Alex post like a story just being like right after October 7th happened. So there was no war. There was no retaliation. It was on October 7th. It was that morning. I think the terrorists were still in the country.

24:40Right. Like rape, murder. It was so like it was so not a controversial thing at the time to even say like praying for all the people getting murdered and raped. Like it really wasn't. And so she just posted that card. I think it was the same one that Kylie posted. It's like a blue sky and a flag. And it said, we stand with the people of Israel, something like that. So honestly, you post about anything when something happens in the world. That's usually the textbook. Like we stand with L.A. We stand with any time there's a tragedy. We stand with them. OK, and I remember being like, oh, OK, like like me, my bar is so high.

25:16I'm like, oh, she's funding it in a little bit. And then she ended up deleting it because I assume she got so much backlash, which is fucking crazy. now we now know two years later there was even more backlash and I'm sure part of the reason why she deleted is because she had this million dollar deal and the brand is like coming at her neck for for posting something completely innocuous and honestly good like I stand before like I happen to love Alex Earl I think she's like so cute and adorable now I know she has a backbone and like I you there's nothing you could say to make me dislike this girl yeah no she I mean she did take it down which at the time we were really hard on her for and I feel bad about that now um because I know where her heart is at and it's with the people of Israel and so then when she was like asked to clarify on comments she was like my heart continues to be with everyone who has been impacted by these horrifying acts of terrorism she said like people are getting raped and murdered like I'm against that it was so not a crazy stance like not at all but the fact that then she didn't like swing the other way and and post just to appease people like that is what we would call a backbone in this day and age and that she's not letting this brand get away with terminating her contract and she won the fact that she then pursued legally which she has every right to do and the fact that she won is like proof that the law was on her side and that the brand acted like in breach of contract but i think a lot of people maybe wouldn't have pursued the legal route because it creates a bigger story and i'm sure this like little you know this moment of backlash is not something she wants to become a national news story and when you do sue someone like look we're talking about it now now it's a story it's back in the news even though this is two years old so I think a lot of people would have avoided that um because she makes a lot of money and I know a million dollars is like a lot of money but when you're at that level like it's not a million dollars to you it's like one brand deal in a sea of brand deals and I didn't even know she does stuff with Gymshark she has so many more like uh prominent brands that she does she probably might have been able to let this go but no like on principle and also give me my money uh 1000 percent yeah so like respect yeah she had said at the time she said I'm shattered over the inexcusable disgusting disrespectful torturing of women children babies and so many others there are no words to describe a tragedy of this magnitude and the mass devastation it has caused I feel like I need to I know not me placing an order at sip margs.com like how can I support I think we need to sip on some sip margs.com I think we do too after of course we sip on some spritz society.com.

27:43Ben's going to kill us. No, but it's different. She does margaritas. We do. She does tequila. We do wine. It's so different. Couldn't be the same. Like, like subscribe, comment, rate, review, whatever I can do to support this queen. Yeah. And also not her like putting this brand on blast. Cause I don't really know this one, but I actually had just seen like yesterday before this, a video of this girl. She had like was taking before and after selfies at the gym. Cause she was losing weight and she's wearing these gym shark leggings and they are like flesh. mesh colored. They are meant to be like pink camo, but it seriously looks like she's naked and it's horrible.

28:18And she's like, they're horrible. And she actually dyes them at home, like on her kitchen top, like to make them black. And it was just like, uh, the opposite of a good ad for Gymshark. So it's just a bad day for Gymshark, but that's what happens when you're bad. Things, things I won't be purchasing Gymshark. Like seriously, not that I go to the gym. She's such a queenie for this uh i was shocked when i heard this story i thought for sure it was like fake news and then i googled it and it was like it's in the uk so it hasn't really hit like american media so hard but it was in all like the daily mail the independent yeah um because it's happening over there yeah because when i was looking for stories this morning i didn't see it anywhere and then i remember that i wanted to talk about it and i had to go and look for it right but um go off queen queen sit margs.com sit margs.com they look so amazing tasting I'm drinking my coffee but I wish it was a sip marg And I'm gonna be listening to Hot Mess On repeat I fucking love that podcast You know actually I really love that sister Ashton I just started following her on all platforms Are you an Ashton or an Alex?

29:23That's a really good question What are their dynamics like if you had to apply them to us Who's who I just assume that I'm Ashton She seems like the one that's like Alex is like Fun and outgoing No, they both really are. But, like, we just know Alex better. They're very similar. Ashton seems like more sober, not in an alcohol sense, but just in, like, you know, the little sister who's growing up fast. To be honest, like, I don't know enough about their, like, personalities. Yeah, yeah. But I stan. I stan. Our next story, some new music news. Something that's been in the works for a while has been announced that Miley has announced her visual album, something beautiful with a release date so miley has announced her upcoming visual album called something beautiful which is releasing on may 30th though details surrounding the record are scarce she revealed that her ninth album will feature 13 original tracks and um is executive produced by by her and sean everett she also i just feel like i need to use this as an opportunity to speak my truth okay but let me just give a few more details she also revealed the album cover which is a artsy shot of her in a Mugler couture and it's 13 songs with accompanying music videos making it a visual album and it will tell some story it's some like pop opera right because that brings me back to my my truth I know what is a visual album and like we need to stop coming up with new words so you're making music videos for your songs like that's like each music video relates back to enough like I think it's like one long music video so it's a movie it's but it's I guess a visual album So it's a musical.

31:02Kind of like Kelsey Ballerini's. Was that a visual album? Was there a video for every single song? Yeah, but it was a short song. But it was an EP. So it was like six. Yeah. It was a visual EP. I know when I think of visual, I feel like the term visual album came from Beyonce's Lemonade. And when she did it, it was like revolutionary. And now I just feel like people are trying to be different. Now, this is not me hating on Miley because I do want to say this is the first time I feel like Miley's released an album where I feel like I'm really at a place to not like sleep on it and not. You want to accept it.

31:31I want to understand it. Like I want to really dive into it. I feel like for me, but also for her, she's at a great place of joy and understanding. And I feel like she really knows who she is. And I'm actually, exactly. I'm ready to show up for her in a way that I can be proud of. I agree. And there's been like whispers about her new album for a while now. And so this is like what we've gotten. And I'm also just like a little worried. I don't want to doubt her, but like it does look very artsy, avant-garde, like Lady Gaga, like above my pay grade a little bit. I hate shit like that. And then veering a little bit like towards dead pets.

32:09I'm just, like that's my concern. Oh, wow. But just in like a very extreme sort of way. I don't know, but like what I was seeing wasn't like, oh my God, I need to see this. Now maybe it's something I will grow into and I need to like mature in my understanding of art. But it looked a little bit out of my reach. And does it look like so different than the previous era of like flowers? Yeah. It's like very punk. I know I used to be crazy. It's very punk hard. Like, you know, metal. Like. Is it closer to like Glass Hearts or whatever that album was called? It's not flowers. It's not. It's not like stripped down.

32:49Malibu. It's honestly, it feels like something from Lady Gaga. like with the sharp edges sharp chiseled cheekbones no eyebrows which by the way I love no eyebrow representation more of that interesting I mean I'm going to reserve judgment and show up in a meaningful way I thought that's what you were going to say which is like just the initial visuals I just feel like out of my grasp it looked like monochromatic as a piece of uncultured swine yes of course who just wants everything served to me in a digestible way yeah like palatable like for idiots yeah like kids bop literally so i will of course support her and i love her dearly and i'm rooting for her and i agree she's in a great place right now so i don't think this is like a work of a madman no no sometimes like when someone's really like not in a good place but also like has no sense of self and they just like put shit together being like this is me and we like you it comes off very confusing for the fans contrived and so i feel like with this last year like miley's been like in a really stable happy relationship she's had a lot of success when i feel like she wasn't really trying so hard i feel like she was trying really hard for a while and like people weren't noticing since she was just like fuck it and was writing music like just that she felt like writing and that's how we got flowers that's how we got used to be young and that's where she got her grammys and so i want more of that used to be young don't sleep that song is so fucking pargy i've i know i love it it's like it's one of those it's it's a it's almost in the category of songs that like are if you think about them too hard you'll start to cry yeah oh my god i was listening to an old sam hunt song yesterday because he had one uh 2016 do you know it it came out like the song is called 2016 yeah and it came out like 2020 and it's just like all about his regrets and i remember i listened to it all throughout covid so maybe that's why it was making me emo because it was like just i was reminded of i think it was like the first song on quarensteins but like it's such a pargy song and it's like just something about it's like so sad like about everything he would do differently no sometimes like songs i drive a thousand miles to your house walking like i walked out oh wait did you say sam smith Sam Smith.

35:09Oh my God. I was like so confused because I'm like, she is, I think misgendering Sam Smith. And I really don't know how we're going to navigate this. And I was like, also I didn't know that Jackie listens to Sam Smith. I was so confused. I'd drive a thousand miles to your house. I fucking love that song. You know, I hate Sam Hunt. Love the tears back from your eyes. Yeah, of course I fucking know 2016. bitch okay I'm glad we're on the same page and you guys should listen to it and let me know if it's like so good because of quarantine or because it's just so good