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Podcast Episode Notes: The Toast - Slumber Party with Lauren Elizabeth (June 17, 2025)
Episode Overview
- Hosts: Jackie Oshry & Lauren Elizabeth
- Description: The episode discusses various trending topics and pop culture news, including celebrity relationships and personal narratives around motherhood and weddings. The hosts balance humor with genuine conversations about personal experiences.
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Segment Summaries
- Celebrity News Highlights
- Erika Jayne Breaks Silence on Jesse Solomon Rumors (22:26)
- Erika addresses rumors of a hookup with Jesse Solomon, denying any sexual involvement but admitting to flirting.
- Discussion of how public speculation can affect personal lives.
- Mariah Carey's Views on Birthdays (29:47)
- Mariah refuses to acknowledge birthdays, claiming she doesn't believe in time.
- Commentary on her unconventional beliefs and lifestyle choices.
- Pope Leo’s Connections to Celebrities (35:21)
- Pope Leo XIV reportedly shares a common ancestor with Madonna and Justin Bieber.
- Discussion about the genealogical findings and implications.
- Reese Witherspoon Launching a Podcast for Her Book Club (40:03)
- Announcement of "Bookmarked" by Reese’s Book Club, causing excitement among the hosts.
- Concern about commercializing book recommendations compared to their more personal podcast.
- Jason Isaacs on 'White Lotus' Salary (50:45)
- Isaacs confirms that all cast members earned $40,000 per episode, reflecting on the industry pay standards.
- Discussion on how this aligns with reality TV pay structures.
- Dear Toasters Advice Segment (58:26)
- Advice for New Moms
- A new mom writes in about not having had sex since conception and feeling guilty.
- The hosts discuss the importance of communication and self-acceptance, emphasizing that it’s common to take time postpartum.
- Suggestions for romantic gestures to rekindle intimacy.
- Bridal Fashion Concerns
- A bride-to-be worries about her choice of a sleeveless or open-back wedding dress for a church wedding.
- The hosts discuss ways to honor personal style while being considerate of traditional expectations, suggesting covering options for the ceremony.
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Key Concepts and Discussions
- Navigating Relationships and Intimacy Postpartum:
- Addressing the emotional and physical changes women face after childbirth and the impact on intimate relationships.
- Encouragement to communicate feelings of inadequacy and guilt to partners.
- Cultural Expectations in Weddings:
- The juxtaposition of personal choice versus traditional expectations in wedding planning.
- Importance of self-expression while respecting family and cultural contexts.
- Celebrity Influence in Pop Culture:
- The impact of celebrity behaviors and beliefs on public perception and individual choices.
- The complexity of celebrity relationships and their portrayal in media.
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Final Thoughts The episode captures a blend of lighthearted banter and serious discussions about personal growth, societal expectations, and the dynamics of relationships in the modern age. The hosts' chemistry and relatability resonate with listeners, particularly those navigating similar life stages.
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Links and Resources
- The Toast with Jackie: [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/jackieoshry/)
- Lauren Elizabeth: [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/laurenelizabeth/)
- The Toast Patreon: [Patreon](https://www.patreon.com/thetoast)
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:22I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast happy tuesday happy lauren elizabeth tuesday lauren elizabeth welcome to the toast i'm so excited that you're here you are here for jackson friends and you're actually staying with me so like we've been together for the last 18 hours just having a time that was really good math it's a rough estimate because i know it's not 12 hours i know it's not 24 hours so we're like right in the middle thank you so much for having me not only on the podcast but in your home which is also like full of love because you have your two little boys and that is why I'm here is for them for them and they're so happy that you're here and I'm so glad that they've lured you here so that you can do the toast with me and then we were sitting down last night catching up and I realized I haven't seen you since our Nashville girls trip which was like right before I got pregnant with Harry so I have not your last period before you got pregnant.
1:14Yeah, that's what we like figured out before that was last time we saw each other. So we had a lot of catching up to do and we have a lot of toasting to do because you and I haven't done the toast together in forever. And so much has changed with you since the last time the toasters saw you, except I guess we did toast together a year ago, but it was virtual. It was virtual. And I sense that episode have become like the spokeswoman for pelvic floor. Right. Oh, right. Claudia was asking me about her pelvic floor during her pregnancy. And I was like, I don't know ask Lauren. Yeah I'll be sitting in the car and I'll hear like pelvic floor I go oh no no they're gonna say my name.
1:49I'm like this is my legacy like who knew the inner workings of my vagina would be my lasting legacy with the toes. Do you have any pelvic floor updates? Yeah so I'm like actually really happy to be here to share updates on the inner workings of my vagina. It's going really good. I actually don't shit my pants anymore. I don't pee my pants anymore. It was really how long were you doing that for? Like four months. Postpartum. Postpartum yeah so now my daughter will be two in September. So we're doing pretty good now. Like I'm feeling really strong vaginally. Great. Not so much mentally. I feel like I do a really good job of representing the toasters that have like mental illness because like you guys are so normal.
2:31And you like. Claudia and I. Yeah. You're always like we're neurotypical. I'm like could not relate less. Like I'm so not okay. But my vagina's great. It's ready for round two. Okay. I've been with you for 18 hours and I feel like you're really well. You think? Like mentally sound. I was not getting like a mentally ill vibe from you. Well I'm medicated again which I think is really great. Like go to your doctor and get a prescription. But I think I also do like a really good job of like hiding it. So I'm glad that like you haven't noticed. No and like you don't have to hide it from me when were just like hanging at my house like be yourself and i'm just i know you seem like you're doing really great like motherhood really suits you you're also in like your bride era because you're engaged that's a crazy thing like i understand now why they say first comes love then comes marriage then comes the baby and the baby carriage because guess what planning a wedding with a toddler fucking insane that is insane how did it go for you love baby or baby love love baby wedding first comes love then comes baby then comes the wedding no then comes house then comes small business then comes wedding so i'm broke i'm stressed and i love my daughter and my fiance but i feel like a lot of couples feel like when they look back at their wedding it's like well our kids should have been there it was like a that's what i'm excited a party full of people who we love and love us and like all the people that they know and it's like thinking about like my kids at my wedding like that's the only thing that could have made it better it's kind of like there's pros and cons and I understand it's not ideal but I think you should focus on that because how fun I'm like I see those videos of which also like make me feel better because like first of all like when I was like walking around like play places and I like didn't have a ring yet because obviously like Matt had to propose I'd be like I look like a huge whore People are looking at me like, look at that whore with a child.
4:23No, I know. But like now I'm like pregnant, two kids, no ring. I walk into the library and I don't have like a wedding band. I'm like, oh my God, everyone knows. Oh my God, you're so crazy. Everyone knows. See, mentally ill. Like I'm not okay. I don't even have a wedding band. Like I have, like when I wear my engagement ring, like that's everyone. I don't even think about people think she's engaged and not married. She has two kids. I'm going to go on the toes and everyone's going to be like, look at that huge horse. I'm not married yet. But what I will say is I see the videos that make me feel better of like other people with their child at the wedding.
4:56And I'm like, oh my God, a fellow like big, you know, mistake maker or whatever. And not a mistake, by the way. But in there like bawling, crying, their husband's dancing with their daughter, like father-daughter dance. Like, hello. You guys have kind of crushed it. Like, I'm jealous now. We're actually geniuses. Yeah. 10 out of 10 recommend. But you will go broke. Like, for sure. Is Olive going to be the flower girl? was her role in ceremonies. I feel like, well, she's actually like been a flower girl and she has another wedding coming up. She has experience in the role. So she actually has a wedding coming up in a few weeks.
5:30She's really booked and busy as a flower girl. And I just feel like for our wedding, like she needs like a step up, you know? I agree. Like a flower girl is like someone's random child. Like not your own. Yes. She needs to officiate being the master of ceremonies. The only thing I'm worried. Mama, dada. Mama, dada. I do? Question mark? But I just feel like what I'm actually worried about during the ceremony is I heard a, like, not a horror story, but someone I know, like, their baby was at the wedding. And they were like, you know, if the baby cries, hand it to the babysitter so that, like, the two moms, the grandmas, can focus on the wedding.
6:05Grandma A doesn't do that. Grandma B's kind of running over. The husband, like, walks off the altar before, like, the wife comes down, like, knocks over the flowers. So I've had strict talks with both grandmas. and I'm like, you guys cannot focus on the baby during the ceremony because I'm also afraid she's going to be like, mom, like, so I don't know logistically how this is going to work yet. Okay. But she's going to have some role where she also has to, like, shut the fuck up for a second. Yeah. You know? Yeah, I think she'll be captivated watching her parents. Her mom's going to look like a princess.
6:35Like, I think she's going to be really into it. I'm going to look better than I've ever looked in my life and then I'm going to fall pregnant, like, the next day. Have you gotten your dress yet? I have. What's your vibe? So I'm actually giving my dress a surprise. From everyone? From everyone. So my bridesmaids and stuff, only my mom has seen it. Okay. But I would say the vibe is I wanted to do something different. Because I feel like my style is very simple. And very just, I feel like I wanted to do something where people would be like, whoa, I didn't expect Lauren to be in that. No, I need to see it right now.
7:07Well, you can't come to my wedding, so maybe I'll show you. I'm like a pushover. This is what my problem is. I'm a pushover. I'm going to be like, oh my God, if I spend 10 more hours with Jackie, I'm showing her the dress. no I need to go home I just feel like the way that you just said that like really wasn't tasting because I thought you were gonna be like it's classic like like when I think of you as a bride like I do think of something like what do you imagine almost like what Hailey Steinfeld just wore like something like very classic traditional and simple I need because my rule and I said this on TikTok I was like if when I tried on a dress I was like if this dress was black what I wear to someone else's wedding and if the answer was yes I was like it's not enough like it has to be like a little different like if it was just like a slip dress but then like you wear it at any color yeah but the reason why I also was like I don't want to show anyone pictures is because like you know it's like not like snatched yet and like I have some tailoring to do right right right but we could use our imagination and it's like you can't yeah no hair and makeup but you're always in hair makeup how beautiful does Lauren look today did you go like this to your appointment I don't know I don't really remember I kind of like blacked it out honestly I don't know I'm like I'm not I'm like someone like I don't do birth like I don't have birthday parties for myself like this whole I would have eloped in the backyard if I could.
8:16What stopped you from doing that? Because really everyone says that. My sweet, sweet angel fiance who's like, we're having a wedding. Everyone says like, oh, I'll just elope. Like, I don't need much. I'll go to city hall. Like every girl I know. And then they all wind up with a big wedding. So it's like, why didn't you do that? Well, you always gave me, your advice was always like, just don't let it snowball. And I was like, you were like, you're like, don't like get carried away. And you were like, but you will get carried away. Yeah. So we got carried away. But like Matt like wanted like more of a traditional wedding.
8:44And I was like, we could just go to City Hall. Like, I got the baby. Like, I want the ring and I want the baby. Yeah. And then, like, the marriage, like, license. But I was like, I don't need the wedding part of it. And we couldn't find a venue that was, like, we wanted to do, like, an Airbnb. But, like, we couldn't find anything. So we ended up having to do, like, a traditional venue. And then, like, you start doing the guest list. You give a guy that's been in a frat, like, you know, the access. And all of a sudden, like, everyone and their fucking mom is coming. You have to match his list. So like you start inviting people.
9:15Oh, I'm not matching his list. It's literally like my family. And then I have like, I think four friends. Like. So how many people is he inviting? Like what's the ratio? It's like basically like 50-50. It's just like mine's mostly family. His is mostly friends. Oh, okay. So it's going to be like a giant frat party at my wedding. But whatever. That sounds really fun. No, it'll be really fun. I'm actually like, I am really excited. I just love complaining about everything. I mean, welcome to the toast. That's like what we do. Thank you so much for having me. Come here and complain. We've like talked about me for too long though.
9:43Oh my God. But we were so interesting to me. Cause I'm even thinking back on like when we met you and like, you used to be like an LA girly. Like you were like the LA influencer. Like you were so LA, you like did all the like things that. And now I'm like the opposite. LA people do. And now you're just like a down home mama. Yeah. But it's like, I feel like I never lost like the Midwest part of me. And that's why people in LA, I think were really drawn to me. And I remember like there was one time where I was single, like the very rare time I was single in LA. and people and I went on like dates and people were like where did you come from you're so normal I'm like no you're all fucked yeah like you guys are all just nuts and that's obviously then when I decided to move back to Chicago but I never like lost like my best friends have always been my best friends from home so it was like a natural progression now I just like drink less green juice and like do less Pilates and stuff do you miss it at all there no yeah like not for a second I miss I started missing the food a little bit but like and like I have like I have like a few good friends I'd like do a good Erewhon trip sure but like I don't know like she made it out you guys it's like it's like living in a different world yeah like I had to like come back to the real world you know no offense to anyone that lives in LA I was just like deep immersed in it and like maybe got it myself into some like bad relationship so it's you know just my experience Well, she's come out the other side.
11:06Yes, I came out the other side. I moved to the suburbs of Chicago. She became a mom. I'm a mom. She's a small business owner. She's a former podcaster. Yeah, I mean, I was part of TNN. You were. But you guys, I said, you guys, I'm so sorry. I have to stop podcasting. You guys were like, bye, it's fine. I'm like, okay, no, like, please, like, don't. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. You were literally never going to be toxic bosses. Like, you have to work. Like, it's not working for you? Great. Yeah, you guys were like, oh, no, you're good. But I don't really miss it. Podcasting. Yeah.
11:38Because it's just changed so much from when we started. Like I was in LA. Remember when we started and like you and Claudia came over and we I think like took pictures for like my cover art or something. That's when I realized that you guys don't like other dogs that aren't King Charles. You guys watching them interact with another dog was like the craziest shit I've ever seen in my life. You guys were so weird. You guys were like, hi dogs. not you blowing up our spot but that is very true and not even something that we would try and hide because the whole reason why we love king charles cavaliers is because growing up we were afraid of dogs yeah no i can tell now and then we got a king charles cavalier our mom got us that because it's like one of the friendliest dogs for kids and she was like you guys can't like be so afraid of dogs like it's like exposure therapy so let me get like the most the sweetest dog and it took each of us like a couple days i remember when everyone like had their moment where they like fell in love with the dog and like some of us were still hiding some of us were like out playing with the dog and we obviously all fell in love with her and then we're never scared of king charles cavaliers but like we have a little bit of a fear in us thank you for exposing that lauren no i mean it was just like you know like you think it's like these dog people and then like you have like these like other dogs and you guys are like i was like oh my god freaks it's important to know we're not dog people we are king charles cavalier spaniel people and i do get it because i met bruno obviously and I was like wait this is actually the best dog.
12:59It was such a love isn't he? He doesn't add any stress to the environment. You have two young children running around screaming playing literally running around with hammers last night They're like toy hammers but hammers nonetheless No guys they were real hammers don't let her lie to you she's a crazy mom the things she lets go on in her home No, running around with like little plastic hammers And Bruno's just like chilling We snuggled He's so used to it He's fabulous He just wants love He's really great Thank you so much for recognizing Bruno's greatness So are the children as well Yes, yes, no, but I'm glad that Bruno has had his moment Because he deserves to shine too He became a big brother at a very young age And he never got to like bask in being the only child Yeah, and that's why I, you know, come in town Give him extra love Yeah But he seems very well taken care of Very well adjusted Yeah, he's got a lot of love He's surrounded by love Yeah, I love it Do you have a dog now?
13:55um you know so now that you're exposing now that i exposed you that's like a really touchy is crazy it's a touchy subject for influencers like who had a dog and then don't okay okay here's the thing if i post a picture of no the dog that was in your apartment that you were saying we were afraid of where's that dog okay so i gotta go bye um okay so here's the thing i didn't train my dogs they're not great dogs whatever love them move back to chicago very small apartment lauren goes through a new phase she's out all the time she's meeting people she is me right we're going crazy my mom lives down the street so they and i was also traveling i was going back and forth my dogs were always at my mom's house and then finally one time i came back from la and my mom was like you're not picking up the dogs i'm done with you picking them up you ruin our routine all this stuff so she kind of actually stole the dog like kidnapped them okay that's a totally suitable answer for me like they're with your parents they're with your mom they're like our family dogs so like now but then my mom decided to abandon me at the ripe age of 30 and she also took the dog so now they all live in charleston got it yeah that's a nice life they're living the dream wait i don't hate this I thought it was going to get like dark and it was going to be like a Lucy Lucy apple juicy situation.
15:18No, no, no. But people still to this day DM me about the fucking dogs. No, I'm sorry. If you are an influencer and you show that you have a dog one time. Don't do it. You are going to be asked every single day. There's no good outcome. There's really no good. Like, you know, people put emojis over their babies. Put them over your fucking dogs or don't put your dogs on the Internet. Yeah. If you like don't plan on having them like long term, I mean, like I guess it was never part of my plan. I think it's just naturally like maybe I'm not a dog person. I like I'm like a baby person. You know like I always knew I wanted to be a mom.
15:51I thought that would translate to dogs. Did you feel pressure to get a dog like living in LA? No I think like maybe I was just like lonely. I don't even remember I don't remember what I did last week. I don't remember how I felt when I was like in my early 20s in LA. You need to keep a journal. Yeah but then I had to like read like I hate myself so much like I've like looked like read like old journals and I'm like you are the biggest fucking loser on the planet. I found an old journal in this move. I immediately put it in the trash. I'm like Like, ew, ew, ew, get it away from me. Do you feel that way about old content?
16:17Oh, I won't watch it. Because I guess technically if you want to know how you felt when you were in L.A., like listen to your old podcast. Would rather die. Would actually rather die. Yeah. Like, I don't know why I do what I do. I just have gotten into it and I like the lifestyle that's come with it. So I keep putting myself on the Internet and then I'm like, I go viral on TikTok. I'm like, I hate this. Why do I do it? Like, I want to die. No, but there's a certain type of person, especially back in the day, like when we started on the Internet. There's a certain type of person that goes to the internet because there are introverted.
16:44And it's an easy way to make something in a silo and then put it out there. But you're not getting on a stage. You're not actually out there. Yeah. So I think it makes sense that a lot of the OG internet people. Now everyone wants to be on the internet. So it's different. But a lot of the OG internet people. The cool kids were out at a party. We were all in our bedrooms filming ourselves. Talking to ourselves. Being weird. To a camera. Do you know how much we got made fun of? The cool kids were busy being cool. Yeah. Like, I'm like, hey, guys, here's how to do a smoky eye. Like, loser. Go get a life.
17:13But like, you know, we're here. So it's whatever. Yes. Well, we are here. We're going to do the toast today. We have a very fun show because we have five interesting stories. And we have dear toasters. DTQ. The DTQ needs us. I picked some submissions that I think you and I will be uniquely suited to answer. Okay. For the mamas, for the brides, for the girlies, for the swirlies. I love the mamas and the brides. Yeah. but I'm a mama bride mama bride is that like a niche like category there's no one else there's no other mama brides as far as I can tell because I think I'm the only like fucked up one but no you know I'm sure they're out there if you're a mama bride come follow me we can do this together I feel like that would definitely be like a tiktok community no I just I just there's no niche here you know yeah but we got we got all the niches covered yeah so we've got the mentally ill yep the midwest midwest brides mothers brides mothers dogry homers people who are scared of dogs except for their own honestly we got you covered we got you covered so let's get into the past five stories that you need to know eh eh and I need to let you know that the past five stories that you need to know are brought to you by roller rabbit you guys my outfit today is roller rabbit I didn't even plan that I just got the Pardia shipment from roller rabbit and I wanted to wear this outfit.
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23:39The answer is yes. Yes, I was. Would I have preferred to take two home instead of one? Yes. She then said, I can't. But my point is for once in a decade, I actually talk to people that we work with because I'm such a bitch every other time. You know me, but I'm trying to do more social things. She said, I wish I had something exciting to tell you, but I don't. I saw these rumors. Like, I think also Amanda Petula was asked about them on Watch What Happens Live. I could have sworn that she confirmed it. And she did. She like, they asked if she believed it. She's like, oh yeah, for sure so i was just like oh yeah jesse and erica j like no big deal i'm kind of bummed to hear that they didn't yeah i 100 thought that they did i don't love it like to be honest like it kind of like icks me out a little bit but maybe that's just because like he's been aching me out a little bit but i could have sworn that it was just confirmed why did she have to unconfirm it i don't know i don't like ship like i don't need them to be together forever but i do like the idea of like her having a fun hookup like she deserves that i mean yeah like we all like deserve that but like I don't like this match.
24:36Yeah. I feel like it's the sort of thing where like things are brewing. These rumors might get in the way but like maybe they had a good conversation at Up Friends. Maybe they think the other is cute. Like maybe they'll hook up at BravoCon if people will stay out of their way. Now people might put too much pressure on it, you know? Wait, when is BravoCon happening? I don't know. I think it happens in the fall. Oh, the fall. Yeah. But like next time they see each other, I feel like they could hook up but not if everyone's like talking about it before it even happens. But or it already did happen and she's trying to like save face.
25:04And she's lying. I don't know why I lie. Like, who cares? And also, hookup. Like, everyone thinks of hookup as differently. So when she just said, like, kissed or made out, I was like, wait, I thought we were talking about S-E-X. I think of hookup as make out. Okay. I don't know why, but now I think about it as sex. And, like, not obviously when I was, like, growing up. Right, because now, like, we're, like, I feel like the way, remember when we were growing up, like, the word hookup meant, like, even just, like, a kiss on the lips. Like, you kissed, you hooked up. Like, you touched. But then your parents would be like, did you two hook up last night?
25:35It's like, ew. I feel like we're getting to the age where it's like hook up just means some sort of like sexual interaction. And not just, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like that's just us maturing. But the word is still very much an umbrella term. Okay. Because I assumed that like they fucked. And now she's saying like kiss. I'm like, wait, what? I don't think that they had sexual relations. Because that would mean like going somewhere private probably. whereas like they could like make out on a dance floor i see yes yes yes or even a peck like that could be a hookup yeah yeah or like at a party i don't think they like you know had one-on-one time like back at someone's like that that was that's what was happening in my head is that jesse solomon took erica jane home to his little studio apartment and was a little bit embarrassed he probably has navy blue bed sheets with no bed frame and erica jane to see his apartment on the show well doesn't he does he live in new york i thought someone said he lived in miami i heard that recently too i think he splits time like where does he live in the city when they're not in the hand i don't know but there's no bed frame there no there's no way no and there shouldn't be a bed frame because i wouldn't want like someone going back with him like to get the wrong impression like this is the kind of guy with a frame like count on him now he's gonna hear this and he's like shit i gotta like get on wafer and get a bed frame no no no no no but there's no way okay fine you know what I don't ship it I don't care but like sure she deserves to be happy and deserves love Erica Jane I don't think she's lying though I don't think she has a reason to lie I think if she didn't want people if she didn't she didn't want people to know they wouldn't bring it up on her podcast yeah and I also I'm just like very naive unless like someone is a proven liar on tv yeah it's like you can't trust a word out of their mouth I just don't think people lie like that but that's a me problem because no I agree because I don't I literally I think that's like crazy to just like straight up lie when nobody asked like i could escape the question yeah you could have just not said anything i always say why would i lie why would i lie because i don't understand like why people lie i'm like i tell like i can't help but tell the truth but i just feel like also like it was probably like good pr so like why like put like a kibosh on it by being like no it didn't happen yeah like oh yeah i agree it was like a fun storyline yeah exactly so for now it hasn't happened yeah there's still bravo con we still have hope we always have jesse jesse solomon is probably gonna just absolutely tear through bitches at bravo i know but at this point like who would fall for it i don't know people can be extremely charming and like better looking in real life and you could be like oh wait like maybe you were just like that i'm like on tv it was your edit like whoa but i also think like an older woman who's not really looking for anything like might she doesn't care if jesse solomon is like a fuck boy like i'm not talking to you again so like no yeah like the younger girls might like have like think something good come of it yeah I don't think I can't imagine him just like holding a conversation with an older woman I don't know why I could I could really yeah it's like that's that that's that little like charming that you hold on it gets smaller and smaller yeah but it's there it's still there it's still there I don't know I've seen too much yeah I've seen too much yeah are you all caught up on summer house yes but I'm more of like a west girly like when I like see him I know I know really I just think he's so funny I actually agree I think he's funny I think he's so funny I can't help it and I think he has really good style so like when he comes across my desk like in my FYP I don't like I'm kind of like drawn to it I'm like you're a silly goofy dude like and like you own it like when he comes up on my like for you page I'm like lol you're silly you're cool you're fun when Jesse Solomon comes up and he's like guys these girls told me that like like everyone like hates me and I'm like oh my god like you're actually making me want to throw up in my mouth like go away so i'm more of a west girly in that sense but he's the only one i like on the whole show men wise okay okay i don't hate that for you yeah i like it yeah i hope they stay i think they're saying because they should be shooting right now right like two weeks probably two weeks out i feel like fourth of last season fourth of july was the first weekend so we're almost there our next story um mariah carrey is explaining her refusal to acknowledge birthdays she says i don't have a birthday that's like you who won't even throw a birthday party so at least i know i have one mariah carrey has one very unconventional belief system she doesn't believe in the passage of time so she was on a uk radio show and each of the hosts asked her a series of questions about what she does or doesn't support including acknowledging time one of the hosts asked is it true you don't acknowledge the passing of time and she said that is true and then when the host asked what she means by that she said I just don't believe in it and then the host was still confused wanting to know if she was referring to time zones but Mariah said no just time so the host was like no clocks and it's just not into that she said yeah no just let it go they said do you celebrate your birthday she said I don't have a birthday no she said anniversaries yes so she's like one of those it's not a birthday it's an anniversary what in the fuck are you reading like this is real no and then they said but if i were to meet up with you later how would we know when it's and then she said follow up yeah i would have someone call you and figured it out so everyone that works for her is living a nightmare oh for sure but i think we already knew that but i think the time thing just throws a wrench into it i like literally strive to be this level of delusional.
31:06No, it's really insane. Like she's living on Mars. Like this isn't real life. What? And I feel like it's a funny bit, you know, and it's so Mariah Carey, like she doesn't acknowledge her birthday because like she is ageless and age is but a number. But to really like live your life like that just seems stressful. Like what if you have a doctor's appointment? That's what I'm saying, right? Like I live by the Google calendar. But I think she probably has a concierge doctor that comes to her house. And then when she's ready to see the doctor, he's waiting in the living room. It's like one thing not to like celebrate birthdays or believe in birthdays.
31:36Sure, whatever. But like to the passage of time. The passage. Like now you're on mushrooms. The passage of time is significant. And I think that like it's like happening literally right now. Like she's not OK. And I love you know what? I do love other people like my child's birthday because like now it's about me. I'm like I push that baby out. Like as a mama, like you should love birthdays. Like you like brought life into the world. No, birthdays are so fun. Especially the first birthday. Like the first birthday is really for the mom. And it's not like you would have a big party or anything. Because they don't like have that many friends or whatever.
32:12And they wouldn't even realize. So you just do something sweet. But it's an acknowledgement for you. Like you got through the first year. That's passage of time. That passage of time. You got through that. That passage of time is significant. Would you say? Significant. Like, oh my God. She's nuts. Yeah. Imagine like your mom being like, we don't believe in time. No. I'd be like mommy what do you mean I have school at 8am yeah we have to be there at 8 o 'clock like this is like I used to believe in like world peace and like just you know I used to like wonder how do like how do people mess it up you know like I want to be the best mom I can be and like how do I just make sure I get it right and then I like open my phone and the internet and I see stuff like this and I'm like oh like we're fucked like people are bat shit crazy we're never gonna have world peace there's people that don't believe in the passage of time Right.
32:59They couldn't even like meet for the meeting. No. Yeah. Like it's not happening. Unless it's in their house. With the concierge doctor. With the concierge doctor. It sounds lovely. Yeah. To be like living at this level. Yeah. So I wonder how she would like if she was just a regular person who like didn't have like access to all like the privilege of not recognizing time. Like how this would manifest in a regular person. I just don't think you're like an active member of society. I agree. Like how do you do anything? Yeah. And it's not a bit. And I think, I don't think, I mean, she's a bit. Like a little bit, it's a bit, but it really sounded like she, it's not, you know.
33:38I don't know. The Nick Cannon thing's making more sense. But I guess like if you have multiple assistants and people working for you, like it's not your job to manage your time. Like time does not matter to you. Like that's someone else's, like someone in her sphere is dealing with time. I mean, she's honestly probably really happy. Yeah. Like just living in la la land. It's probably frustrating for her that people like us like don't understand what she's saying. Yeah. She's probably like you guys just don't get it. And like I'm functioning on another level. How sad for you. Yeah. No. Like she's making fun of us on her imaginary podcast right now.
34:10Yeah. That has no timed ads or anything. No. She just goes on and on and on. Yeah. So. I hate this. That's what's up with Mariah. I did like I feel like I didn't need to know that. And I'm like so happy that I do. I know. I'm gonna be like think about that a lot like how how my life my day even could be different if I just like don't acknowledge time no I'm gonna like I need like way more follow-up questions like I have so many questions for her especially when you have kids and she does have kids so it's like they put you on a schedule yeah but maybe it's like a biological schedule like what maybe she doesn't believe like in time in a sense of like that it's like man-made and like we like made it up so she still like follows like the rules of society but she doesn't like believe in time as like a whole which also like doesn't make sense because like we have like history but I don't know.
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34:55Now I'm like. There's also just day and night. I'm trying to think like I'm a high person. Day and night is not a social construct. It's social. But time is. Time is. Time is. O 'clock is a social construct. O 'clock. Yeah. O 'clock equals social construct. No, yeah. Light and dark, day and night, not social construct. Now I'm feeling like I'm on shrooms trying to figure this out. I know. I can't do it. I know. We need to pivot to more theological subjects. So true. Because Pope Leo reportedly is related to Madonna and Justin Bieber through a common ancestor. So Pope Leo XIV reportedly has some famous musical relatives.
35:29According to a report in the New York Times, the New Holy Father is related to Justin Bieber and Madonna through one common Canadian ancestor born roughly six generations ago. The New York Times collaborated with genealogists from American ancestors and the Cuban Genealogy Club of Miami on a detailed exploration of his ancestry and found that the head of the Catholic Church, born Robert Francis Prevost, that's definitely not right, Prevost, has connections to a number of famous relatives, including Madge, Madonna, Bieber, Angelina Jolie, and former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, which I guess would also mean that all these people are related to each other as well.
36:06Did he submit like a blood sample for that? I'm confused. Did he like do Ancestry DNA like on his own time? No, but I don't think you need... So who's running this? Just like Ancestry.com, you don't submit blood. Like you just give your name and like the people that you know, and then they have a lot of other information. It's like one of those things. And that's like ancestry.com, which is pretty legit, but not like the genealogy club or American ancestors. First of all, this is my boy. This is my pope. Yeah, because he's from Chicago. Yeah, like honestly, if I gave them my name, maybe we're related.
36:41For sure, because you're both from Chicago. Yeah, he might be my dad. He might be your dad. He might be my dad. I mean, I don't have a dad. I mean, technically I do, but like I'd love a new one, you know? yeah it could be pope leo that would be i just think he's so cute but this just makes me feel like then like are we just like all related for sure but like we are all related well it depends what you believe it depends what you believe adam and eve well i mean i don't believe in the passage of time anymore but if you believe in adam and eve then we're all related i do believe in adam and eve yeah so we're all related okay i like yeah but like but this is like closer to home Madonna and Justin Bieber.
37:19But you're definitely related to this guy. He looks like you. I think, right? Like, we give similar vibes. Do you get really excited when he, like, wears his Chicago swag? Yeah, I do because I feel like we're, like, the most underrated city. Did you know of him before he became the Pope as being, like, from being, like, a big deacon in the era? I wish I could be, like, yeah. Like, yeah, I'm such a good Christian. No, I had no idea until it was, like, on the news. And then my whole Instagram feed is, like, Chicago. Because even like, I feel like I know the big cardinals in New York. Yeah. I don't know.
37:53I don't believe in the passage of like time. Of cardinals. Of cardinals. No, I don't know. It was all news to me. But as a Chicago girly, like big day for us. Huge day. Yeah. You know, people need to put more respect on our city. It's a major win for the Windy City. It's a major win for the Windy City. But like New York sucks. L.A. sucks. Chicago so great we gave you a pope yeah think about it think about it no it's really it's really great for so do you think Madonna and Justin will reach out I could see Madonna she's very spiritual yeah she's another one that's interesting she's an interesting cat yeah I don't even go down like the Madonna rabbit hole like there's just like there's so much information her music like never she's ahead of my time so yeah but she's very spiritual true in an like in a real way I mean Justin Bieber won't stop posting on Instagram.
38:47Justin Bieber is also very spiritual. So he's probably going to figure this out and get in touch. Yeah. That's so cute. Family reunion. Yeah. This is what he needs. This is what Justin needs right now. I think so too. I know he has Jesus. But more. But he needs more. Yeah. And Pope Leo is going to get him there. Imagine he's the one to save him. I mean. Beautiful. Another one for Chicago. Beautiful. Oh, yeah. And the ancestor is a Canadian. Like Justin. I see. I see. Like the more you know. The more you know. The more you know. I love genealogy. I think it's really interesting. It's like that one show, right?
39:21Where they like do it with celebrities and they like figure out everyone that they're related to. What's it called? Like who the heck are you or something like that? That's not what it's called. I think it has a weird name like that. Oh, I thought it was called like genealogy. I think it's called like who the fuck are you? Seriously. Like do they still do it? I thought they did because I feel like they still see news about it. I don't see as much news about it. I feel like it used to make more news. Yeah. But maybe some people found out some stuff they didn't want to know. Yes. Maybe like Variety was doing something.
39:45like these like two actors figured out that they were like cousins or something cute yeah i don't know i don't know enough can you tell like there's not a lot going on up here i don't think that's true thank you i think you're really hard on yourself oh well you and my therapist agree our next story reese witherspoon is launching a weekly podcast for her book club so redheads are quaking redheads are pissed we are pissed and i feel like she could like smell blood in the water like because we've been struggling and i've been honest about this like on the redheads and probably you could sense from the show like it's been really hard to like get the redhead we do our episode every month but like every month it's getting harder and harder to find time for all of us to record like for busy women like mothers a lot going on and then also like for us to read the books too like we're having a real we're in a reading slump and then it's just really and so we're going definitely through like a weak moment yeah and she's pouncing so her monthly book club which just turned eight years old redheads are five years old that's like the younger prettier version um is now getting a companion podcast while she's likely to make appearances on the show she is delegating the hosting duties of the podcast it's called book marked by reese's book club okay amazing name like kill me the series will be anchored by journalist and tv host danielle robey who will bring together celebrities tastemakers influencers and authors from reese's book club and beyond to share stories that transcend the page no i feel sick because you know this is my dream like I always I always say like if I had more time and I could take on more projects I would build out redheads like I have like big dreams for it and I would at least do like a twice monthly podcast where once a month is the book club and then the other one is like talking to authors influencers fucking pacemakers about like book stuff and I definitely like said that once on the show and they took my idea oh you're giving away a lot of free ideas I'm glad you know what I'm just gonna be magnanimous because I know I'm not like I'm only getting to have less time not more I'm never going to be able to do that right so I'm glad that that content will be put out into the world by a trusted source such as Reese but I feel like you guys would have done it better and like a more like authentic and fun way like this has the potential to be like over commercialized and like not as like intriguing and just like almost just like people are going on a press tour yeah and just like very serious yeah um and not like showing a super fun side but let's see hello sunshine has another podcast too Claudia and I did one of their podcast I think it was called like the hello sunshine podcast yeah we had so much fun the hosts were amazing so I think they're pretty good in the podcast space and like because I'm not going to do this and I know that about myself because I don't have more time um I will pass the torch to bookmarked so then what's the future for the redheads I mean that's a really big question and something that we're all sort of grappling with but we all have agreed that like we never want to stop doing it and even when it gets hard like we're not giving up the redheads so I think even margo yeah even margo because for right now a lot of us like aren't reading in our free time like we normally were just going through a reading slump but like yeah if it weren't for the red heads i would not have read in six months and like i'm grateful yeah for that and every time we do the red heads it's so fun and like i literally sometimes don't talk to like have catch up with my friends that whole month and then i get to like it keeps us together yeah so you can't stop we can't stop it's just um i think also what would be easier for me is like delegating the editing of the episode because I edit the episode yeah it's really hard to edit for people who are doing a virtual episode it takes up a lot of my time you do it I know I'm just like so protective of the redheads and like I listen to everything I take out everyone's like breath that I like anything that I can do to make it perfect because like it's my baby it's my passion project but I think if I took some of the workload off of myself yeah that could be better for the future of the brand well I don't want the redheads to go anywhere I'm a I tune in I tune out You know, Rit and Dana are my absolute girls.
43:28Like, absolutely love them. But I feel like, Reese, you know, this is just like a commercialized version of like maybe something that you'll be able to do eventually. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they'll have me on as a tastemaker and influencer. Well, those are the things that you are. And then you can go promote the Redheads. And then I can go promote the Redheads. So maybe this is actually amazing. I'll use it to my advantage. You know, I think it's good. Like, I'm always going to support women in literature, encouraging people to read and podcast. But at this point, like, do you think that like Reese is really like picking out each book or is it like, OK, like we have a new release coming out and like we know the people at this book publishing house.
44:02Like I think she there's that like I think publishing houses like submit their upcoming. But I think they also pick the books like six months before they even come out. Like it's so maybe even like a year whenever they have manuscripts. I think the publishing houses that she works with, like send the books that they want to nominate for a book club. I think she has readers that read a lot of books. And then I think maybe one or two come to her and like she might make the final choice. I think she reads them. I mean, that's like a dream, like in a sense of like, can you imagine like if you were doing the Redheads and you had all these people that were like trickling books up to you and you only had to read like the final two?
44:38Yeah. But no, I just feel like sometimes I'm like, I don't know, can I trust it? Like, is it really good? Or like, did they just like pick it because they have a relationship with the author and like whatever? Yeah. But that's just me being like, I don't know. Like when you pick a book, I'm like, oh, Jackie picked it. Yeah. Well, for redheads, it's more of a crapshoot because no one's read it. I'm not saying this is my recommendation. I'm saying we're going to have fun and it can open to be being bad. But when I recommend something like on my stories, like I mean it. But I do feel like there are some book clubs that people like it depends what you like.
45:06I mean, obviously, some people read everything Oprah picks because they just trust her judgment. They like what she likes. I find myself really liking the read with Jenna picks. Yeah. Anytime I read a book that's a read with Jenna book, it's good. I can't say I've had the same experience with Reese's book club. Yeah, I agree. It's not like, but maybe that's just a difference of taste. Like maybe I'm more of a Jenna than a Reese. I've just also found myself just liking Jenna in general recently. I think like maybe since like Hoda left or whatever, like I just feel like there's so much like she's being pushed on me so much.
45:33And I'm just loving what I'm seeing. She's doing a great job. I think so too. And I think she does a really good job in the book space. I just want you to have a stamp, like on a book. I know. Well, we have our sticker, but I have stickers that like I make for myself. um well send me like a few hundred and i'll start going around the midwest just popping them on books yeah yeah you can make stamps on etsy love yeah um are you ready for our fifth and final story i am well i need to let you know that the rest of today's episode is brought to you by roback okay girlies listen up because we need to talk about roback's new summer drop if you're a gal on the go like coffee in one hand airpods in or headphones with a cord calendar back to the brim.
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51:18He said, I didn't know that was public knowledge about the salaries, but he said that's absolutely true. Generally, actors don't talk about pay in public because it's ridiculously disproportionate to what we do, putting on makeup and funny voices and just upsets the public. But compared to what people normally get paid for big TV shows, that's a very low price. But the fact is, we would have paid to be in it. We probably would have given a body part. So I think it's like refreshing. he seems like every time he talks I just like love him so much like he's such a p-jom um and while yes like this is lower than actors make typically especially to be on a hit show on HBO like it's still more than most people make in many many years do we have any idea like how much people like normally make to be on like a hit HBO show because like to me I'm like$320 ,000 I'm like that's like a lot like maybe not for like A-list A-list celebrity but like for just like regular actor like yeah that's a lot no and I feel like a lot of people who are on the White Lotus are either like on their way up right or like kind of have been forgotten about for a little bit so it's like amazing for their careers but I also imagine it's such a big cast like you can't pay everyone a million dollars right because it's like okay$40 ,000 an episode I'm thinking maybe like 10 20 like that would be like okay whoa like that's really really low but$40 ,000 I'm like it's not bad it's funny it's kind of like what like a big reality show would make per episode probably do you think is that yeah like I would say when you come into a reality show you're probably making like 1500 to$5 ,000 an episode and then when you are there for a few years like I think 40 ,000 an episode is like a median place to be at I think like some of the Vanderpump people by the and we're making like 100 ,000 an episode really yeah because it compounds like the more time you're on the show that's so many different like contract negotiations that you've been through right right right I know I think like as much as he said like you know like what we do is like put on like makeup and like act silly and all that stuff I just always think that like they make so much money and then I think of reality tv as like you make like no money so I feel like the$40 ,000 is more like yeah shocking to everyone because it's like oh I thought everyone just makes millions and millions and millions of dollars yeah I feel like reality tv stars actually make a lot of like I feel like even if they make 20 ,000 an episode but their their show is even 10 episodes but usually more than that it's like 20 episodes so it's like 200 to 400 ,000 just for like film like for that portion of the year they film a few months out of the year so like the rest of the year they're doing other jobs like i feel like that's why when people are like struggling so much or it's like i'm like but where'd all the money go like you've been on the show for 10 years yeah yeah no i know well it's because it's especially like when you live in somewhere like la though it's like the cost of living and then like the cost of like keeping up with the joneses i know but i'm like what are you even doing that looks so like you well yeah i mean especially with that cast.
54:07I'm like, it's not like anyone's dressing fabulously or driving fancy cars. I'm like, no offense. Y 'all look like shit. And cheap, too. And so I'm like, where'd all your money go? I know. And you just think that if you started making an astronomical amount of money, you'd get some type of financial advisor and just start investing it. And then you don't have to work as much either. But with reality, I don't know. They're all just normal people that they found on the side of the road. And they're like, hey, you want to make a fool of yourself on television? Let's go. Yeah. And then all of a sudden they're rich and they're spending money.
54:39They're giving money to probably family members. Doing the damn thing. But actors, actors have been working for it. They're serious cats, you know. They are serious cats. They've been taking their acting classes. Yeah. I got the biggest ick last night actually. You're an actress. Okay, please. I was an actress for three seconds. Do you miss acting? No. With acting, you do a lot of nothing. So like I remember being like just like really, really bored. Because you just like wait around a lot. they call it like hurry up and wait um and i just remember like i'd be on instagram like watching like people post and like starting like blogs and businesses and i was like i could do more i'm like i like i was like too like i like i was like i need to go go go yeah what was the show that you were on i was on real bros of simi valley jimmy tetro show for a little bit and then this show called betch that was like a sketch comedy female sketch comedy show that one's like that one's a classic that one like my fiance still please like watch lauren in this i'm like oh Oh, my God.
55:35That's really cute. I know it probably hurt. Like it's painful for you. But like that's what a good fiance should do. No. Yeah. He loves he loves talking me up like that. So, you know, you know. But no, I don't. I really don't know what I was going to say. What gave you the ick last night? Oh, OK. So I got the ick in your house last night. It had nothing to do with you. It just it's where I experienced it. I was like watching Jenny in Georgia. And there's like I was watching like maybe the high schooler, like one of the guys act. and I had just taken my like little like CBD gummy to like go to bed.
56:05So, you know, I'm also kind of like going in and out and I was just like, these are the grown, like I was just watching like grown men act and I was like, you're a freak. I'm like, you're the biggest loser on the planet. Like you're telling me you have a normal girlfriend and a normal life and like, oh, sorry, I gotta go play pretend and cry. And like when I was, I don't know, I just had like this weird like out of body, I was like watching Ginny and Georgia and I was like, loser, loser, like you're all freaks. no that's the conclusion that we've come to like to be an actor working actor like successful like you have to be a freak like there's no way to be normal yeah that's why when someone seems normal like they are so adored like glenn powell seems normal yes but like powell is normal for sure but he could there's no way i don't know i mean i've met him a couple of times and he was like really outgoing and normal and whatever yeah oh hold on let me pick up the name i just dropped it was really weird though because like he like wanted to like hug up with my friend and not me So like that was definitely like a blow to the ego.
57:02Who was your friend? Like an influencer friend? Like an influencer friend. And you don't want to tell us? When was this? It was like, oh my God, so. Like it's in the past. Well, actually like I was like dating someone else. I'm over here being like, why didn't you want to hug up with me? Bitch, you came with someone else. So maybe he did. Let's just go with that. Mamas need every sense of delusion that you can get. He didn't want to step on toes. He's not that kind of guy. No, he didn't want to step on toes. Like I'm like living in like my own delusion. Like where like I walk down the street with my daughter besides like the whole like horror bit that I do in my head.
57:37My other bit is I'm like oh my god like people are like staring at me. They're like who is this young girl like with like is she a nanny? Like I see a high schoolers passing me and I'm like they probably like think I'm like a couple years older than them. Yeah. And I'm like finally had to look in the mirror and be like listen you dumb bitch. You are not young. Like you don't look like a teenager. But like you do. When I walk around, I literally am like, oh, my God, that guy's checking me out. He's 14. Oh, OK. No. OK, Bonnie Blue. I'm like, oh, my God, they probably think I'm like so cool. And it's like, no, like you're an old mom loser.
58:13No, there's nothing cooler. Anyway, me with my bump. I'm like, oh, my God, they're checking me out. LOL. You're like, I didn't want to hit on me when I'm pregnant. Like Glenn. well now it is time for dear toasters which is our weekly advice segment i'm here to do it with lauren i'm so excited if you ever want to submit to dear toasters you can email us dear toasters at gmail.com or go to the submission form on our website it's always anonymous and we're here to help out the swirlies so let's get into it this first one i'm conflicted hey swirlies i went on a first date last night and was confused with an interesting situation in a very open honest and respectful way he told me that he was divorced not a big deal and that his marriage had a number of issues but at the end of the day he was unfaithful to his wife leading to their divorce now what does one do with this information run fast for your mother it was just a first date so i don't even know how i feel about him or the situation but as a general rule of thumb should we be giving cheaters a second chance people make mistakes but also once a cheater always a cheater would love your thoughts p.s i'm submitting this to good guys too because i do think the girlies and guys might look at this differently i do hope that they pick yours because i'd love to know their advice because I too am conflicted I don't so broad too I don't have like strong opinions about cheating because I just haven't experienced it enough to like I don't have the experience to say like oh that's just a character blonde like he'll always be that way I a part of me you know the forgiving naive part of me wants to be like people can change right but to cheat on your wife I think I am like in a phase where I'm very much like you like I can't believe you would believe that they're not going to like cheat on you.
59:52I'm like no like run like but like obviously like now like you know saying it into a microphone. I'm like no but like there's like the exceptions to the rule and like people can change and all this stuff. But like when it's like my friends in real life, I'm like, don't be a dumb bitch. He's going to cheat on you. I hate this man. If this was your friend, that's what you would say. Like if it was my friend and especially like I think when there's like kids involved, that's when I get like really psycho. I'm like, absolutely not. Like he is a piece of shit who just like ruined his children's life and his family's life and his wife and all this stuff.
1:00:28But then I'm like thinking about like maybe like a young like a young person with no kids and like maybe it was a mistake. And like you're like met this P-jom and like you're like having a great time. Like maybe I would be like wait no guys like he'll change. So it's like I can't go like I'm like I don't know. No and like some people cheat and ruin their lives so completely that they never want to do it again. Like it's the biggest mistake they've ever made. They've learned the hard way. Like everyone knows not to cheat, but until you really like feel the pain of like what that means, you might not really understand why cheating is so bad.
1:01:01But like, I think it's possible that he could have had that experience where like he lost. I mean, his relationship obviously had other issues, but like that it was the biggest mistake of his life. It was the biggest learning lesson. And I do think someone like that, like wouldn't do it again. That reminds me of Freddie from Love is Blind UK. He was like, seriously. Oh, that would see. That's a great example. Like, that's a great example. If you went out with Freddie from Love is Blind UK, like, yes, he cheated in the past. I don't care. No, like when he said that, I was like, no, like you're fine.
1:01:29You're fine. You're good. Like give him a chance. You could see how it tore him up inside. And he like hated himself for it. Perfect example. Truly. So I would say on the one hand, it's one date. Like, why are we having these like really hard questions and like worrying about it? He was honest about it, too. He was honest about it. But like, if you're really so worried about this and maybe some people have like cheating trauma where it's like, well, now, you know, he's a cheater and you like are always worried about getting cheated on. maybe you guys aren't right for each other because like your baggage and his baggage like don't mesh but like someone who's coming in open to cheating like not open to cheating okay i'm really open to cheating not traumatized by cheating it's not always worried about cheating it's like more of a just like has ability to be a little bit more trusting maybe it would be a better match for him so maybe at this stage like maybe you guys shouldn't even go into liking each other because maybe these issues will come up but if like you got like a freddy from love is wine uk vibe from him where this was like the biggest mistake he ever made and like it was good because it taught him that he will never cheat again and also there's like emotional cheating and the physical cheating so like maybe he just like got drunk and like hooked up and like oh my god whatever like there is so many caveats to it but i think freddie as from love is blind is the the map for you yeah you know what i mean but he could also be the exception to the rule and like most likely everyone thinks they're the exception to the rule i know and as someone that is the exception to the rule i'm like no please like don't like you're the exception to which rule to getting pregnant and then getting married after and like actually having like a really incredible fiance and like amazing like love story like guys like got really lucky like don't know like what karma i deserved but like everyone else i'm like don't trust it don't do it don't trust it yeah i'm like don't do it how long were you and matt together before you got pregnant i don't know like four or five six months yeah like not a lot reminds me of lindsey hubbard a little bit do you relate to her I mean not really I love her no just I'm saying like I mean they were like just I feel because they just broke up because they do well yes but I think they weren't compatible and I think that I I think that watching her on reality tv and watching her kind of feel the same way about every single guy and so I just couldn't like really trust what she was saying and then we like didn't get to meet him right so you didn't so I was like I didn't like yeah I didn't see how he would be different so I wasn't sure that type of vibe yeah I understand so you're saying you're you wouldn't recommend people do it this way it's obviously worked out for you but like you're the exception correct but i don't believe in like everyone's the exceptions because don't girl we're girls i'm just a girl of course i think i'm going to be the exception to the role you know no but like odds just numbers wise like yeah probably not going to be the exception and if this isn't like the great love of your life just like no but it's one date like okay unless it's like a tiny town he's the only single person trust your gut yeah trust your gut but i just want to say like it's possible that people can change yeah it's hard but sure next um a little bridal advice we need from miss xle my fiance is from south carolina and comes from a very traditional southern family i have been looking at wedding dresses and i am concerned they will think whatever i choose isn't appropriate we are getting married in a church for a reference i'm not looking for anything too sexy or revealing but i like an open back or a sleeveless dress how should i approach this thing swirlies approach it to who to approach it to whatever she picks out she just is like nervous is open back to revealing for a church I don't I don't think so I mean like I've had friends get married with like strapless like I think it just like depends on like you're like I've had one friend like where we all had to wear like little shawls or like you can wear something and like cover it up and then like take it off after you leave church I think it just depends on like your church, your preferences, like stuff like that.
1:05:04But I feel like she like said like the family thing. Yeah. About the family. And like another thing that like I think being a mom and being older has made me, I'm like, I don't give a fuck. What anyone thinks. Yeah. Like what? Like, oh, you're going to like run it by your mother-in-law, like your mom, like your aunt, like your crazy aunt. Like, bye. Like, I don't care. Come if you want. Come or don't. I would say go with the dress that like you feel best in because everyone has like a certain shape that suits their body. yeah and the open back is like yeah and what i will also say and something that i did is like for my ceremony and like being married under a chuppah my dress was uh strapless and then i i had like i used part of like the tool to give me um like a little to cover my my chest and my arms i can't remember if i wound up wearing that for the ceremony i think i might have forgotten and then like didn't care but that was my plan i think a lot of girls do that to use the stuff from your dress.
1:05:57Yeah. Is to like put something, cover you in the church. And I think that will like signal that you're being respectful. And then for the party, you get to wear the dress that you want, but like, you do want to be respectful in a church. You obviously like have reverence for your religion and you don't want to show up in something that's inappropriate. Um, but I think maybe like covering up or, uh, you know, a shawl, a shrug, there are a lot of different things. If you go to a bridal salon and you say like, how could I make this more modest for half the day? They will help you do that. They can use material that they've cut from the back and like make you something um and then for the party you're wearing the dress that you want i feel like that's like a good solution and it shows that like you have respect and you like care about what they think and you don't you're not trying to like piss them off and like shame them but it also shows that you're your own person right and you like you're clearly asking so like you already care yeah it's not like you're like someone that's you know thrown up two middle fingers i'm just someone that's where i'm like okay like you had to stop the people pleasing at some point where it's like you know the i'm sure your open back dress isn't like down to your like butt crack like you're like crack might like like i've worn dresses like that where it's like whoa this is like really low so i'm sure it's like probably like not even that like scandalous or you wouldn't even be considering wearing it yeah and if you're worried about like what other people at the wedding will think about that that's going to trickle into every single decision you make for your wedding anyway what are they going to think about the food what are they going to think about it it's like at some point like the the main thing about the wedding that i always go back to is like this is about me and Matt I naturally like love hosting people I'm gonna take care of everyone but like ultimately like I'm gonna take care of everyone in our way like it's about just like getting married to the love of your life and if you have to like wear a shrug at church because you're getting married in the church that's cool too like it's fine and I think like for most of the things about a wedding you're doing it for other people like you want music they're gonna like yeah they're gonna eat the dress is the one thing that's for you and you alone and it's like the complete representation of like who you are so go with the dress that you want even if it's open back like what about a veil that's like really long and covers your back idea too and then you take it off outside the church and like mom's having a fun night out i think that you could be flexible on this and like please everyone while also not losing yourself i just can't imagine that the dress is like too scandalous either i feel like it's probably just like maybe like a little bit of skin and you're just like nervous but i think we get like you gave good veil shrug yeah my i don't i need to look at my ceremony pictures i think i wore it but it was just tool wrapped around my chest.
1:08:17That's genius. Yeah. And my whole dress was twirl. It's super cute. And then you have like two different looks. Yeah. I love it. Next one. This is from a new mama. Good morning. I heard a fellow toaster on a previous year toaster who was still pregnant and not having sex, which made me write in. Yes. And I remember we had someone, she was like seven months pregnant and like she didn't want to have sex and she was like, she was like, wanted to know if like she was being crazy. So this made her write in. She said, I'm seven months postpartum. My husband and I haven't had sex since we conceived. It took us a while to get pregnant, so sex for a while became mature and emotionally exhausting.
1:08:49I don't feel in the mood quite literally ever or comfortable in my new body. I have stretch marks on my belly, weight gain, etc. And I know I just grew and birthed an actual human, but somehow I feel so guilty and feel like this is not fair to my husband. So, oh, to not be having sex with him. Now we're so far out, it's awkward to even initiate or speak on it. Help, do I just bite the bullet and take one for the team with the lights off, of course? or just wait it out till I'm comfortable in my new body and get the urge again. Thanks. A postpartum, tired, and sexless toaster. This is tough. This is tough.
1:09:21Because it's like, you don't want to be like, yeah, just go do it. But I feel like sometimes as a girl, you almost have to initiate and just start so that you end up in the mood and you end up getting there. Yeah. Because seven months, I mean, it took me a while because I had all my situation downstairs. Right. and it's like you I still don't feel I'm like what she'll be too I still don't feel like 100 % like great about everything going on down there especially when it comes to like having sex it's like oh my god like you know you have like trauma like of something like getting ripped out of your body and like you're like self-conscious but I mean after seven months I feel like you actually might not realize it might make you actually feel more connected to your husband and feel good and like me like it might be a little bit more in your head maybe you have to get out of your own way.
1:10:08Yeah, that's what I think there's like two things like one, like not being like comfortable in your body, which it's like, but we all feel that way. And it's, it's not the greatest feeling. But that's why he's your husband, like he loves you for who you are. And I think he can appreciate your body for what's given him. And I imagine that he's a good man. So like, you have to get out of your head about that. But it also I guess you're like back in this like awkward stage of like, how do you initiate it? And I feel like doing something like special, like maybe a little trip maybe a weekend sexy trip maybe uh you could always like go out to dinner and like try but i think like martin not just like one night trying to like yeah stir something up but like getting overall like in the mood of like just being flirty with each other and going on a date and like setting the mood sometimes it's like the lead up of the entire day before you have sex at night that's actually like the foreplay of like just like being more flirtatious in the morning and like making little comments like setting the stage of like oh like she's like into this like making like little jokes and it could even if like if you were like okay well I don't have a babysitter I can't take a trip I can't do this like just like light a bunch of candles like there's like candles that are like ten dollars on Amazon like just something that you're like trying to like make yourself feel more in the mood if that's what you want or for me it's literally just like I have to communicate it's like you have to figure out like what your thing is that makes you feel comfortable and sometimes mine is like either just going for it or communicating like hey i gotta i gotta get this off my chest i gotta tell you how i'm feeling because then it's like it's released yeah i've been feeling self-conscious i don't i haven't felt like having sex i feel really guilty because i want you to know that i love you and i do feel like having sex with you that's i mean communication it's always like right down there on i like projectile but no that's also a nice idea i guess it depends what kind of like some people don't like to talk about these things right so it depends on like your communication style and like end your relationship but if you just want to like do a grand gesture and I think doing like a trip or something I mean it's just I guess it's seven months like it's possible if you have like good child care or like family that can watch your baby like you can go away for like two nights even one night like that's your way of communicating like I think we need this and then it's like just message received I'm like assuming that he's a peach he's very patient and like he's been giving you time and space and like he deserves a little love and like you will feel better better after right like you have you're gonna have to force yourself to like create this the conditions yeah but I think once you're in those like vacations are romantic a dinner is like spending one-on-one time with your partner after you have a seven-month-old and you've just been through newborn trenches like you will feel differently if you like take a moment to get out of your routine get all dressed up like and feel special and we're not telling you that you have to have sex by the way if you don't feel like having sex don't do it but I think communicating that is a good idea yeah I think don't feel bad that you haven't had sex yet I think everybody is different and everybody's body is different so don't be like oh my god wait like I should have like wrote into dear toasters like three months ago and like done this already like no like you're good seven months postpartum is like really not that it's really not crazy but it's a good time to get back into it right but and I think I think it's like the push you need is just being like okay like I actually like want to feel connected to my husband yeah and maybe like you want to have baby maybe you want to have a baby start get back on that horse see how it rides for the second time who knows like think about it as like oh i want another baby guess i gotta fuck yeah sometimes that's what is that's what does it yeah and that could be the like the motivating factor for you yeah whatever get you back on the horse yeah giddy up my girly swirly but if all else fails talking about it and letting him know that like you know that this is probably not his favorite and like that you're wanting to like work on things and get to a better place about it like i think he would appreciate that too if like no one's saying anything about it yeah and it's like it's not like men understand women postpartum so it's like he probably has like no idea what's going for me i wouldn't be like i want you to know how hard this is for me like do you not understand how different i feel in my body like i'm like i'm communicating to like also make you feel bad for me like to him like you look the same yeah oh yeah he like dude like i was gonna be really vulgar for a second but like he just wants to fuck dude like you're good he's not like looking at like your belly now but like really you look the same to him yeah you're fine you're great actually you're great make it fun and if you don't want to do it like just communicate it but if you do like you know plan a little booty slap during the day that would also just like mean so much him even if like whatever happens on your little trip like if you went to the effort of like finding child care for one or two nights getting a hotel like planning a little trip yeah i don't know where you guys live but like if they're a little beach fate whatever if i did that matt would be like oh my god yeah oh my god like head over heels the last 15 months of sexless life washed away oh and ready now i know what i'm doing when i get home well good luck to you So please, anyone, if anyone ever wants to send us an update, that would always be much appreciated.
1:15:07I want to know when you fuck. Let us know. Let us know when it goes, how it goes. Thank you so much, Lauren Elizabeth, for your help with the toasters community. Absolutely. And for today's episode, this was so much fun. And you're back with me tomorrow because we have another slumber party tonight. You're going to be at my house. We have a big day. We have a big day. So you'll be joining me again tomorrow. So sorry. And we're going to have a ball. Oh my goodness. Such a classic toasty energy. CTE. Yes. Well, thank you so much for having me. well um thank you so much for having me i'm gonna go where can everyone follow you lauren elizabeth on everything you can shop laurenelizabethshop.com get yourself some cute home decor a little sold out right now but we got some good things coming good things coming well we love you all and we will see you tomorrow love ya bye
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