Small, Fragile City Slicker: Thursday, March 27th, 2025

0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy thursday that feels like a fucking friday bitch because we're fucking celebrating jackson claude is coming to town jackson claude is coming to town jackson claude is coming to town that's right we're singing synchronistically because jacks and claude are coming to town hey jacks how you doing i'm doing good i am in new york city the big city slicker. Big city slicker. Look at me, all black. Actually, she's tiny. She's a tiny little, fragile little city slicker. Oh, tiniest. She can't even see. She's like too precious to walk down these streets.

1:02You are too precious to walk down these streets. I always was. Like, even when I lived here, I was not the elk of New Yorker. You were not made for city slicking. And now, like a fish out of water, I'll take an Uber. I'd never know you weren't a big New York City gal with your all black outfit, your slick back bun. She's cosplaying. She's doing what she does best. she's LARPing as a New Yorker today. I am even though I'm a New Yorker which is so crazy. You are. I never was. No not in your in your true heart. Even when I was here 10 years I never was. Also we're doing something really fun today which is vlogging our day.

1:34We have such a busy day you guys. We have such a busy. Not to be such annoying influencers. No and like influencers and content creators only do like a day in the life when they're super busy. Which is what we're doing today. Which is what we're doing today but we're also doing like a lot of interesting stuff. So even if we were this busy every day I would still choose today to vlog because there's a lot going on like we're shooting a commercial we're gonna be on set on location actually on location we have a guest interview we have a gno tonight right i'm trying to get my hair cut because i missed my haircut yesterday if you're wondering my hair looks like this it's because i thought i was gonna have a party blowout this morning and i don't for my big commercial yeah but i'm just gonna be a slicker for my commercial i think it'll be better for the vibes of the commercial creative of the commercial actually the role that you're playing is like slick is slick and you guys are probably wondering like don't you guys have hair and makeup for your commercial no no no we don't that would require us waking up earlier so we we politely declined so we don't have hair and makeup for our big commercial that's why we look so pargy-licious today we have so much to do like we have a pargy show we also have kind of a inaugural moment here in toast herstory this is jackie's first time visiting me at our yeah that's right jackie also place for the studio our new studio you haven't been to the new nyc hq yet give me your thoughts we got her whole reaction on the vlog that we're vlogging of course but tell me your initial thoughts it's nicer than i expected i don't know why what did you expect just like it's lighter and brighter and like more kardashian than i thought like oh you know what i mean my god the pages and the pinks like it's a very kardashian vibe am i at kylie cosmetics offices wow okay i was like a little nervous about you coming because first of all like you do contribute to half the rent so like you do have a say and like and also i didn't want her thinking like i'm you know like a rat in my new york city disgusting dungeon studio so like i over the last since i found out you were coming i've been making improvements like i had the wallpaper put up little things like i got all the boxes cleared out like i really wanted you to you know respect our nyc hq because i respect our South Florida HQ.

3:33And now our new one. And now our new one. Yeah. So I think it's really great. I don't know why. Even when you show me this wallpaper on FaceTime, like it just looked darker. Like everything, just the color of everything is different. It's a very porridge-y vibe in here. So it's not like I was expecting to come to a dump. But like part of being in a studio is like you want a dumpy vibe because it should be like dark and quiet. And no, it's light and bright. And I'm enjoying my time here. Okay. She said it's Kardashian. I did. And I meant it. We have actually such good stories today. a lot of internet drama not drama but like the internet swirlies were making news yesterday yeah no I my group chats were popping off I could not keep pace with them because I was traveling and as I said like I missed my haircut because my flight got moved and disgusting it was just a long travel day and I couldn't even keep up with my group chats because that's so much that internet was talking yeah lots was going on we're going to talk about the Alex's we're going to talk about Remy and Chloe's podcast and then some other human interest type stories to to get you guys settled into your days yeah it's thursday usually we'd have summer house recap but due to all the travel the delays went out to dinner last night so it's not just me because zach actually turned it on the hotel tv he turned on summer house and i was like no yeah i'm watching i i could have watched it when i got home but like i'm a pregnant person i need to be asleep by 9 30 and i did get home at like 9 45 so that was hard for me um so no summer house recap this week this week is just like a little where where the toast where jackson claude in new york city take giveth and also take it away a little bit.

4:59Yeah, we're not in our routines. Even though last night was like our episode. It was? It was like Craig and Kyle. Okay, it's been our episode for like four weeks. So I kind of, it's kind of like the boy who cried wolf. Agreed, agreed. But of all the episodes for us to miss, like we would miss this one, but it's fine. I'm sorry. We were sat for the last four. We were sat for the last four. I had to move on with my life. So what was I saying before? What weren't you saying? Oh yeah, I went out to dinner. I had salmon. I thought you got spaghetti pomodoro. I was going to get spaghetti pomodoro, but then I forgot about a kind of like a major life event that happened to me yesterday.

5:33Okay. I went to the doctor for, you know, my visit. And I always, when I go to the doctor, there's like two appointments. You do the scan and you check on the baby. And then you go check on you. You go upstairs and you get like your blood pressure, your pee, your weight. And I always, the nurses are amazing. They're like, we're going to weigh you. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to turn around, take my shoes off. Like, please just write it down. I'm not interested in knowing. And I can't be the only one who says that. They're like, of course, of course. And they've respected it every single time.

5:56and they're like always hyping me up, you know, like, Queen, you look beautiful. Yesterday was no different. Queen, you look beautiful. I said, thanks, Queen. Then I went into like a different office to talk to the doctor and she was like, you need to get blood drawn. So on your way out, she gave me like this paper. It's like a form that you take to the lab to give to the lab person to be like, hi, I'm here to get my blood drawn. And I don't know why the fuck I looked at it. I never thought for a second my weight was going to be on it, but it was on it. now it's also funny because it was like a lot of words on this paper my eyes found like I just saw weight it's actually insane how my eyes were looking for it and this is the first time I have found out my weight since probably like my first or second appointment like so when I was like 13 weeks I just decided that I wasn't going to keep up with my weight now if I could do it all over again I probably wouldn't have not known not to even change the number that it is today but It just wouldn't have been so surprising to go from the number you were at before to the number you're at now.

6:54Yeah, and to be honest, I really had no idea what I was going to be at. I'm like, maybe it's not so bad. And it was. It was pretty much as bad as it could be. How much have you gained? You don't have to tell us your weight, obviously. We're not psychopaths. Yeah, well, when I went to the family chat to just sort of say, I was literally crying in the car. She's like, I'm tearing up. I accidentally saw my weight. And Jackie's literally, she didn't even say, oh. She goes, what was it? I need to I need to work with the facts before I can have emotional response um so all that to say yeah I didn't get the pasta last night but also because wow that's how much it affected you no actually not really Dr.

7:28Fox just keeps telling me I need to eat like more fish and meat my iron levels are low so like I was like that's because you're so skinny and small that's what I thought right so color me so surprised when I saw my weight on the form um so what I don't like to eat fish in my house like I can only eat fish at a restaurant do you know what I mean so I never go to a restaurant so I was like you know what I should have the fish don't worry I also had pizza and like so much bread I was fine fish pasta no no I don't yummy and so if anybody's like in my position where it's like weight is your whole life and like you've lost a lot of weight and now like you're getting pregnant you have to go back I would suggest not turning a blind eye I don't think it was my wisest decision but there was so much change you know yeah I couldn't take it on yeah it's good to know just so that you never see like a jump of 30 40 pounds I don't know what what the actual number because I don't know what you were before I only know like your new weight so I'm not saying that you have gained 30 40 pounds I have no idea I wish oh god wait you're making me feel so much worse 30 40 I wish how much have you gained

8:28that's not bad stop no it is no like Kylie gained 60 it's bad no and then I like I gained

8:3760 yeah I just have some time left you know yeah well I posted this whole saga on my Instagram story and like people were very quick to you know chime in with their responses and I just want to say to the people who were like trying to be helpful being like I get it I gained 30 pounds like 30 pounds is so not a lot and what people don't understand that I know I'm gonna make it worse for us but you guys need to understand how bad we have it it's that we are short so like Kylie gaining 60 pounds and me gaining 60 pounds is not it's like you gaining 80 yeah like I like to tell myself oh Kylie did it too but no it's so much different when you're short it's so like yeah for short people you probably gain 30 40 pounds and that's a lot when you're in the 50s and 60s like that's a lot a lot and if you and I just want to say like any amount that you gain because someone's sitting there who's short who gained 80 pounds and you know what I mean and like that is going to be me like wait fuck but every pound you gain is beautiful that's why like not Not only should you keep a breast just to know so you never see this like stark change, but you have to just make peace with it.

9:34You have to make peace with it. No, I know. And I felt like. Just know breastfeeding and Ozempic are waiting for you. I felt like a brat like being upset about it, especially after like a clean bill of health from the doctor. Like that's all. Like the fact that I walked out of the doctor and the thing I was thinking about was my weight, not the fact that like the scan went great. Like it's so. I'm sorry. I'm a human being and like it is what bothered me. And like that's why I'm crying in the car like an actual six-year-old. um but like I wish I could change my perspective I can't I'm sorry like I know what everybody's saying you're right like Margaret's sending me inspirational text messages like I know not satchy but the wisdom I know even though like I wanted to slap her she was like she said the thing that like I just hate you're literally going to hear it like shut up like she's also on her camera ab in the mirror like you know and to be clear I'm gaining I'm growing a four pound human okay like let's just be real I know but you really have to make peace with it and I feel like you know that you should but you actually haven't tried to I know that I should and I actually haven't tried to 1000 % I have a lot going on I'm shooting a commercial today like I just can't I really can't and it's just when when you're at a weight that like you hate so much and then you finally like you fulfill your life stream of getting away from that weight which I did thank you Ozempic you think you're never gonna return I like turned my back on that number and I'm like see you never bitch meanwhile see you next year yeah that's so different it's so different it's so different i know i know i know so that's why i had the salmon no i'm kidding that isn't why i had the salmon but it wasn't not a factor i'm just gonna i'm gonna try to walk a little bit more i'm really not gonna i feel like you've been healthy though or do you just pretend like to the family that you're healthy oh does that does it come off that way i'm not trying by the way sometimes i do put my best sometimes i do put my best foot forward and like lie to you guys i don't feel like i've been doing that okay how do you think that i've been healthy like i just I've not seen you like, like order like a crazy meals and you don't post like huge amount.

11:26Like you go and you go to the diner and then you, Ben makes you dinner. Like it seems like very balanced. I thought so. That's what I thought. I'm not hiding anything. I think you should keep doing what you're doing. Okay. Yeah. Except now I'm just like really, especially my physical therapist said like try and walk as much as you can. So I'm trying to get in like 5 ,000 steps a day, which I think is just good for like life, you know? But I was having round ligament pain, so I really couldn't. Now I'm feeling better, but whatever. It's fine. Like whatever. yeah it's whatever well thank you for sharing that and being vulnerable it's actually going to be a theme of today's episode I know we're going to talk about Remy making news on Khloe Kardashian's podcast yeah I'm happy for Khloe I'm happy for Khloe too this was a good get I actually it was a mutually great gets for each of them yes I knew Remy at some point was going to like share her journey and I was wondering where she was going to do it um and I actually can't think of a better place no and chloe's a new podcast so of course she didn't like come to mind but their friends chloe's obviously been through a lot of weight loss and also weight criticism yeah like being in the spotlight about your weight throughout her it was really perfect and like so premium it kind of looks like this because it was like very kardashian correct so it kind of looks like this show she also is i i can't lie i haven't watched any chloe in wonderland it just hasn't been enticing to me yet but that's podcast every episode like is for everyone else and i watched remies let me tell you chloe is a very good interviewer because she knows how to listen yeah which we're still working on critical skill yeah and i also finally understood the title of her podcast after also watching kardashians of last week because it's not alice in wonderland no it's like it's all about things she's curious about so it's like she's in wonderland of a land of wondering about things oh okay that's actually kind of pargy for a podcast because she'll talk because when on the episode i was watching she was talking about how she'll have people come on and talk about you know the pyramids like please no okay i've so had enough or the how the earth is flat please no but i felt like you know all that stuff and that stuff plays so well on podcasts it does like theorizing conspiracy and everything all types of different just wonders um so i'll put it all together and it was quite pargy well um it was my first time watching it's really high quality it's funny how um the kardashians like invented remember that photo booth that they used to have everywhere murmur and like it was like they were posting these pictures from events on instagram and they were so beautiful then everybody started getting the murmur at their own wedding and they whatever they did there like they applied to her podcast everybody looks gorgeous on it their skin it has like this tan filter it's pargy same with the show they have yes they have filters they have technology we need that technology you're telling me after seeing my weight at the doctor's office yeah so the stories are actually really good today i feel like we're gonna have some kind of complex dynamic combos classic us so us to be so complex and dynamic so without further a do-do-do-do-do where are you where are you he's either in heaven or uh in the dungeon in Brooklyn being someone's sex slave sad oh I wonder if I'll see a rodeo while I'm here well I hope so because he got groomed yesterday for you oh so me and Ben um send Romeo to like a grooming place and you know you always have doubts when you send like your children furry or otherwise to like a facility you're like are they abusing the dogs there you see these videos online and and you know every time we go we just like we acknowledge like maybe something's happening and like we just need to get over because he's got to get bathed in his nails so yesterday I was walking past the place while Romeo was there and they actually groomed them in the window which I like like you can't be abusing a dog in a public storefront and I took I looked my head in and oh my god he is in love with this woman and I actually went inside I should have done this before I met the woman who who grooms him oh she loves Romeo she's like always doing Romeo she showed me pictures of him in January so I felt really good that like the daycare I'd been sending Romeo to isn't abusing the dogs at least not my girl yeah or not your dog yeah that's so true maybe some of the uggos yeah but rodeo gets special special Special treatment.

15:29They sent him out in like a little bow. So I want him to look nice for you and your family. So you have to come see. Okay, yeah. And the kids will be excited to see him too. 1 ,000%. Okay, we'll make a play date. We'll set it up. I'll have my people call your people. Ben will call Zach. Now without further do-do-do-do, here are the fast-size stories that you-do-do need to know. And the fast-size stories that you-do-do need to know are brought to you by Booking.com. Booking dot. Yeah. We can do it together. So thank you to Booking.com for sponsoring today's episode of The Toast. Every time we use Booking.com to find a place to stay in the US, we know that they're gonna have exactly what we're looking for.

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19:18No one guessed this. She admitted that she got a surgery called S-A-D-I, otherwise referred to as Single Anastomosis Duodental Switch. She kept referring to it as Sadie. Oh, I was going to say Sadie. Of course you did. Of course I was going to say that. Of course you were going to say it wrong. So the website explains that the Sadie procedure combines sleeve gastrectomy with intestinal bypass to promote greater weight loss. It's a form of bariatric surgery, which we all know is like gastric bypass, the sleeve. This is a different type of it. tube-shaped sleeve as well separating the top part of the small intestine to below the stomach before reattaching it to the bottom part of the intestine so basically she got 80 percent of her stomach cut out yeah and so I watched the episode um she spoke a lot about like before she even said that like I had had surgery she wanted everyone to understand like how she got to the place that she did which I appreciated because she found herself in like a precarious situation where she became like the face of the body positive movement and she has said in this interview but and I know her personally she said it to me but she says it in every interview she does she's like hi I'm not body positive.

20:14Like I don't love my body. I actually hate my body. So when you become the face of like, you're supposed to love and accept yourself and then you do something drastic to change it. She's received a lot of criticism for that. So her sitting down and like really explaining it with somebody who gets it was very smart. Now I think people are kind of committed to misunderstanding and just disliking the fact that she did this. Cause I've seen a lot of people just making Tik TOKs about it. And they, they just, they, they hate that she did it, you know yeah it probably feels like a betrayal because she was like even if she didn't want to be but she was like the face of this movement for them and felt like a role model but even following her at the time before she had the surgery like and she shared even more about her poor health status on chloe's podcast but even you could just see in her videos there were days at a time where she couldn't get out of bed because of her back she had like multiple back surgeries sleep apnea and then so that's the stuff we knew and she shared but stuff that she didn't share that even as her friend, I didn't know was that actually when she, um, one of the things that really drove her to make the decision to get the surgery was that she was told she was becoming infertile because of her weight.

21:17And that was something like she never expected. Um, but yeah, like sleep apnea, she, you know, if she fell or something, it really, um, I know that she fell and her, like her knee gave out. So there were days where she couldn't walk. And then she just has like genetic and hereditary back issues, which were exacerbated. So she was like, you know, a 27 year old girl who had two, two back surgeries. Like that's not, you know, a normal place to be at so she very much said like my weight was the reason for my declining health at 27 years old right and I think that just followers of hers without like having inside knowledge could see that that it wasn't like this amazingly positive thing all the time that was like really weighing weighing and negatively impacting her quality of life yes and her relationships too she had spoke openly about like her romantic relationships but also her relationship with her parents like because they were really worried about her and like there's really no way to say it in a good way and in a way that the person wants to hear and right thanks we've all been there like so it just was impacting every and so she spent the first like 30 minutes of the podcast just really letting people know what her life was like before just so like I think to deflect any sort of criticism of her decision to do it now it people are going to hate regardless but she really wanted people who were open to understanding her journey to get that and I feel like she did a good job then she shared the actual surgery process which honestly sounded horrible so um she happened to have had like a it's a decent recovery and she like everything that could go wrong did so like you're supposed to feel sick for sure for a couple of days she was sick for six weeks she had to move home she like couldn't take care of herself um throwing up just really really like bad and hard and she was also then like freaking out being like what the hell did I do?

22:57Like I changed my body and now I feel, and I'm having an abnormal reaction to it. Did I just ruin my life? Like, am I going to be in the hospital for the rest of my life? Which I didn't even think about that part, but like, that must've been a bug out, right? Like you made this huge decision. It seems to work for everybody else. You've never heard that other people are in the hospital for, you know, weeks at a time. And like, did I do something wrong? So then that's like the panic of that. Eventually, like she just, she said also when they, when they cut her open to do her stomach, she also, they found that she had a really fatty liver.

23:24So they had to do like other things um and now like the person we see now so she said it's been a little under a year she's lost 140 pounds the person we see now who's like so feeling so good looking so good um like that was not the reality for the majority of the journey and that's part of the reason why she didn't share when did she start to feel better was it six weeks I feel like it was like two or three months okay um and I remember like at the time like watching her content like you could see like her quality of like she was home her quality of life was really not that of someone who is you know successful and young and and in love and it was just it was it was crazy to watch her relationship she was still in her relationship but he really like didn't know how to take care of her because it was so crazy so she moved home yeah that okay I mean I know that they ended badly but that feels like no I mean I wouldn't know what to do like it's crazy um and so the backlash of course has has been swift and kind of the the recurring thing is like well she should have been honest she should have been open she shouldn't have told people that she was body positive and she shouldn't have told people that um she did this with diet and exercise and to be clear like she didn't she didn't she didn't say that she did it with diet and exercise she just never she's ignored it she just ignored it and as somebody like who did something similar like when my weight loss was becoming obvious to people and they would like start commenting ozempic like I blocked the word Ozempic like I wasn't ready to share it yet um and so I come from a place of like complete understanding like I totally side with Remy like not only does she owe nobody anything even as the even if she was like the most body positive face of the movement she still doesn't know anyone anything about like her own private medical journey um and the fact that she did share in her own time like I do think will ultimately benefit people because she's not coming on here like endorsing the shit out of the surgery she's not being like everybody should get bariatric she's being like it was really hard it wasn't what I expected now I'm at a place where I can look back fondly on the experience but at the time like it was not they say it's like the easy way out right she's like it was not how does she feel now though because like yes the recovery was hard but it seems like the whole thing this is a whole even like inadvertently an endorsement of this surgery because she looks amazing she sounds happy and healthy and like that she's you know able to really enjoy her life now so even though obviously it's hard and you go through a lot this does feel like an endorsement whether or not she's endorsing it well she maintains that like this place that she's at now where we're all seeing like a much happier healthier version of her physically mentally job wise she really maintains that like it's not all due to the fact that she lost weight um she did other work on herself therapy um obviously getting out of the the relationship and then being heartbroken for the first time like she feels like she's on the other end of like a bunch of things that have all contributed to this like newer version of herself but I think that she feels if she says and this is just me guessing I think she feels if she says that you know it's all due to the fact that she's thin now it's like definitely a betrayal to the community the community but also like something that I know she really believed in and believes in when she was building her platform yeah but I feel like you had the same thing because you are so positive like I feel differently like and this is where I don't necessarily relate like word for word to her experience is like I didn't find myself really unhappy in my life as a plus-size person I just hated the way that I looked like I came at it really to be honest from like a shallow point of view um and so yeah you don't want to admit when you lose the weight that like it really was this thing that like it was the thing you know um and so but for me like I don't know and you could probably speak to it like is my personality or my disposition very different big or small like my mood and my my my level of joy actually i've not really thought about it but like kind of like you've always been a happy funny positive person but like you're down for so much more you said yes yes i'm more open 1000 you never would you were more like cautious like curmudgeoning like curmudgeoning everything's a bad idea i don't want to do this i don't want to do that and of course like there's a bunch of it's so funny because like i look back I'm like I was so happy.

27:35No, but when I, when, when the thing is at the time though, like you were so positive and so happy, but now after the weight loss, it just opened up another like category of like, and now you're so 360, like even though I agree with you at that time, you were so happy, but we didn't even know how much happier, but you're just a happy person and you could be even happier. I guess it's like, I think some people find themselves at a place where they're really unhappy with their weight and it affects other facets of their life, whether it's romantic relationships career opportunities um different things and I I maybe I'm wrong but I didn't feel like I got to that place and that's something I'm like proud of like that I was able to work on myself and really like be in a good marriage and like have positive mental health and you always have all of those things but then it just got even more even more crazy um but not I realized that that I think that that I'm unique in that experience because it's really hard not to let your weight just like take over your entire life so when you come out of it you don't want to say like it was all my weight the whole time but I do think in the future like when when Remy looks back on this I do think she will see that like it was mostly the weight than it was anything else on herself for the heartbreak even a year ago like she's always been like a mental health advocate always has been like working with people and working on her mental health so what's actually the thing that's changed in the last year is the weight um I think that like people are really critical of her choice to do it on Chloe's podcast which I think was brilliant I agree and I think probably made her feel really safe like chloe's such a nice person and they have a personal relationship and chloe's been through dramatic weight loss with everybody's eyes on you telling you you're too skinny you're doing it wrong like you you left us in the dust there is no right way to lose weight as a person who was uh popular amongst the movement of body positivity and plus size there's no right way to do it people are going to feel betrayed they're going to feel left behind they're going to feel jealous people from the skinny and nikki glazer just did a great bit on this on um ozempic on jimmy fallon just being like skinny people hate it because like now we're all equal but like you've had to work more on yourself yeah like you have a great personality you have a great personality too and now like we look the same so there's no right people are going to criticize it like i got so much backlash when they didn't like now i don't even care like i would do it 15 times over and i would wait double as long to tell everyone like i don't care because i found like myself in a good place and at the end of the day that's what matters um but all of this is really new to remy she's not like an og influencer do you know what I mean she's like a tiktoker who took off during COVID so I think like I have a lot of sympathy for her because you know you get hardened the longer you do this and she's still relatively new to it and that movement that community like they can be brutal especially when you leave them behind I was a part of it too like you feel betrayed when like one of your favorite fatties leaves you and the community because you loved to see somebody like fat and successful and happy and healthy and rich and and you saw like oh that could happen to me and then when they leave like I get it it's really disappointing but like I feel like people are being really unfair to Remy yeah I haven't seen the backlash it's on TikTok right I'm sure um but this is a person who's healthier and happier than she was before and I think that's something that should be celebrated and if she needed to if she didn't tell you when you wanted to know I mean clearly she had 140 pounds in a year like that's dramatic weight loss like you can use some deductive reasoning that like she's had some sort of aid and also just like trust your faves that she will tell you when she's ready.

30:58And if you can't trust that, then she's not your fave. That is what people are saying. And I'm so glad you just said that being like, well, it's misleading to let people think that you lost all of this weight with diet and exercise. First of all, Remy never said that. She just didn't answer. She never said that she did. And two, like if you're low key stupid enough to think somebody could lose 140 pounds in under a year diet and exercise. When they were struggling so much. Their whole life. And then one day just switches like a flip. The internet ain't for you. Like you're dumb. Like where's the personal accountability?

31:24And people always like, you're misleading your audience. Who are these dumb people? It's always like generic what about the young people go talk to your parents like yeah it's not remy's fucking job she's just trying to live her best like healthiest life and get through it you know she's not a nutritionist she's not your dietician like if you were really like at the beginning of the episode she's like before i dive in she gave like a whole no but like if you were really looking to remy to like validate your life choices and like eat what remy eats and do what remy does look in the mirror like that's not a healthy way to be on the internet agreed it's not good internet behavior like we're just following people passively like we're here for a good time like we're not it's not that serious yeah agreed so congrats congrats to remi very happy for her our next story a little more influencer news a bit of an update because alex earl says that she can't podcast for the foreseeable future so alex earl did a little grwm and she's ready for all of our genxers in the beginning she said i have to put a pause on podcasting right now for the foreseeable future don't really want to get into the details of it all and i kind of can't get into the details of it all right now but I've loved it so much and I'm really proud of what I built with the podcast instead of dropping new episodes she said that she's going to be pivoting to vlogging on YouTube I'm laughing because this is like what we just said she should do and I'm so glad like she listened I don't know if it was like I thought it was kind of obvious so people being like she heard your episode I don't think so I think like she came to the conclusion on her own because it's like kind of logical conclusion she said I don't want to leave you just leave you astray and not leave you with anything I also think I would lose my mind so good news is I'm going to be putting out weekly vlogs for this foreseeable future she just dropped a vlog of like her family spring break at universal studios and next she's going to do ultra music festival in miami the only thing that's confusing about this that maybe you can um explain is she said i kind of can't get into the details of it all right right so she said that like she's not podcasting anymore because she can't and she can't tell us why so it was giving like legal dispute battle unwell intellectual property so of course every the the comments are like what did alex cooper do to you so so much so i guess it must have been overwhelming because i feel like alex cooper does not respond to stuff like there's always things being said about like the show and network and she kind of lets everyone speculate it's like a good um strategy but she put up an instagram story about this which i was so shocked because she doesn't respond to anything and it was basically like guys i'm seeing all your comments about like alex not podcasting just letting you know like her inability to podcast has nothing to do with unwell like we're we're settled you know I gave her IP I learned from the best at stool president I she tagged Dave um just being like please excuse me from this narrative so I don't know a world a reason why Alex would be unable to podcast and that she can't get into the details of it all if it has nothing to do with unwell I don't think it has anything to do with unwell because we did hear that she got the IP weeks ago and so they're set their goodbye um I guess like I don't know if people why they didn't just know that instead of bothering Alex Cooper about this.

34:15Yeah, but I think that it was the only logical reason. Why else? That's what I'm asking. So I don't blame people for thinking it had to do with unwell. Not gonna lie, I thought the same. You did? Yeah. Even though we know it's been squared away for sure. Why else would someone be unable to podcast? I have to put a pause. Maybe she had a non-compete. I don't know. I don't know what I thought, but Alex is like, no this is maybe like i'm not able because i don't want to right and i don't think she should podcast i think it's a waste of her time and energy i think you know she just did that episode with bethany and it was like really good yeah but that must have been like before all the drama went down like pre-recorded perhaps i feel like it was that week of bethany yeah i don't know but why would you like put all this effort into like a big podcast if you're gonna cancel the next week i don't know i think the situation is fluid honestly yeah but it could just be like i can't podcast right now because I'm tired and my mental health is suffering and I can't do it and I wanted to look up how it was performing I watched it I watched a little bit of it the Bethany one no her new vlog like compared to hot mess universal studios yeah okay so her personal um YouTube channel which is relatively new has 125 ,000 subscribers hot mess which she was updating you know weekly is at 270k now I do believe she owns that channel but she's posting her vlogs on Alex Earl Personal and 14 hours ago she put up this Earl family vacation it has 36 ,000 views okay we'll see we'll see I do think that um her content because she said she's going to ultra next week I do think stuff like that would perform better than like spring break with your little siblings which is so cute and I love it but that's not what people know her for it's like a fun fact about her that she has this huge blended family and her siblings are so cute and she goes home to New Jersey and they have like you know cows and stuff um but I think in terms of like what people go to her for it's like to see her get ready party with her friends do like cool makeup cute outfits so I think the ultra because the vlog before this which was two months ago is Vegas girls trip and it has like 200 ,000 views I think they should have a reality show I know you want her to be a vlogger but I just feel like someone should be following her with a camera she shouldn't always be holding working so hard and like editing it yeah yeah it's there there are Endless opportunities for Alex Earl.

36:28Yeah. I'm not worried about her. I'm not either. And I'm waiting on my Sint Mark's order to arrive. Right, right. Code Alex. Is that the code? I don't know. Code toast. Code toast. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Disney Snow White drama fiasco. Oh my God. I'm so over this movie. Okay. You were never not over it? I know. I was never going to see it. But let me tell you, I love that song. Oh, it's so while you were. By the way, why wouldn't I have seen it? I've seen every other live action. snow white is not it's a movie musical it's made for me and because i i never like got into snow white growing up like this would have been my time right it's not like a disney fantasy story that like i follow i don't even know like why is she hanging out with dwarves like i don't know the plot yeah so this i like the fact that this is performing so poorly and that i have no interest in seeing it like it's actually crazy it's mark platt so he's so i didn't know that i didn't know that either so ben platt is an epil baby it's like the main of his existence he's like one of those nepo babies in denial and i just want to say like you're extremely talented and a nepo baby we can hold to be both um and his dad is like this big time producer he actually produced the um dear evan hansen movie and he's been in the news a lot recently he was a producer on wicked and now i didn't realize he's a producer on snow white and i find it really interesting that he keeps doing these movie musicals and not casting his son either ben platt like really doesn't want to be connected to his dad and have like obvious nepo ties or like they have beef or something One, he doesn't want to be, he's so like anti, he's a self-hating Nepo baby.

37:58Like he doesn't want to do anything that his dad is tied to. And two, his dad does like kind of commercial, cliche sort of, my favorite kinds of things. And Ben Platt is so artsy. He probably looks down on this sort of like commercial big budget blockbuster. He's like, no, I want to make no money. Yeah, totally. I want to make zero dollars. And I do feel like Ben Platt's other siblings, and we're going to talk about one of them today, who's a part of this story, have recently been um like they're not obviously the level of celebrity he's the most famous person in the family who's the other siblings his name's henry i follow him on tiktok he's an amazing voice like really hard i never even heard of him i know so there's like a bunch of brothers and they're all sort of like up and coming now jonah has a podcast that i see a lot um actually he's going on the good guys soon they recorded a couple of weeks ago he's perfect for the good guys i see his podcast a lot because it's all about being jewish and he also had mark platt on his podcast his dad yeah because they were talking about like they were just talking about judaism um so they're obviously close because also yeah so this big bombshell report about the snow white fiasco came out in the box office there's been rumors about rachel zegler and gal gadot a lot of politics the free palestine movement is involved so they did like an official variety article on yeah like gal gadot has been getting death threats she has like insane security paid for by disney over the course of like the film that she's getting death threats that disney's paying for it oh yeah Yeah, over the course of like filming and post-production, Rachel Zegler has made a lot of comments that have rubbed like literally everyone the wrong way.

39:19About Gaul, about the movie, about Disney, like about everything. About Palestine, like a Trump supporter, like everyone, she's pissing off everyone. Oh yeah, I remember her Trump one, her and Ethel Cain being like, I hope terrible things happen to all the people who are - Right, right after the election. So like that's not good when you want - She's really crazy. When you want people to come see your movie. Yeah, right. Especially like a commercial big Disney project, like you're supposed to be for everyone. You don't want to alienate more than half the country. That's just not a good move. It's a really specific type of project and a specific type of like PR that you have to do for this type of blockbuster.

39:50Cause these are movies that get played all over the country. It's not like an art film. It's not like a New York, LA thing. So you really need to be like, you're supposed to be a Disney princess. You're like of the people, you know? Yes. Think of the people who go to Disney and, and love Disney. It's everyone. Yeah. She also like was making fun of the plot early on saying like the movie's so dated, 1937. She's not going to be saved by the prince. He was like low key stalking. like seriously painful quotes it's like why would you be in this movie that you hate so much you don't have to take it and i do think that the end of the live action film is like you know not it's no it is wokeified like it's like she saves them all and it's like a communist utopia to be clear there is a way to do it like i think that we make fun of it all the time but the way emma watson did bell in beauty and the beast she didn't want to be like damsel in distress stockholm syndrome she technically falls in love with her captor for sure she technically falls in love with an animal with an animal so um Emma Watson at the time I just want to think if Emma Watson could do that who was like so radically feminist if she could not only make Stockholm Syndrome with an animal yeah work for her this girl could make Snow White work for her yeah like at the time she contributed different things to the project that she wanted to like modernize it a little bit while you know keeping the uh integrity of the story intact and she's very like female focused and so I feel like the way she did it didn't change the quality of the movie and didn't rub people the wrong way like I agree with her like yeah hike up your dress because you're a mechanical woman like and she like used the sheets to climb down the window because she's so industrious like okay great yeah sure and she was like her dad was like the industrious one but like he was dumb and she was smart no and she like learned from him and like you know women can be a lot of things and she does her own laundry with her horse and there was no drama yeah and there was no drama so it can be done so this is like drama abound she's posted like over like years like a lot of things on social media and said things in interviews that have rubbed everyone the wrong way then most recently I think her and gal were actually fine during filming that's what I read but then after they presented at the Oscars Rachel Zegler said something about gal how like she's always a professional pageant queen like just just like something like nasty like that and so now they're they're not speaking they're not doing press together they didn't even have like the red carpet press there was no premiere and then so this report also said that after one of her many social media posts one of her outbursts mark platt flew from la to new york to talk to her they had to get like a social media consultant to work with her and vet all of like everything that she was going to post in the run-up to this movie so that you know she wouldn't send away more fans right so she had to have a talking to so someone commented on something about of jonah platt saying your dad flew to new york to reprimand a young actress any words on this because that's creepy as hell and uncalled for and i just want to say people have the right to free speech no shame on your father like go comment that on mark platt shit like that that shit bothers me like leave jonah alone first of all and i'm sure jonah was ready oh jonah was ready i'm glad she commented on jonah me too jonah responded we got an insight we got window like mark platt like they don't fuck around jonah said you really want to do this yeah my dad the producer of enormous piece of disney ip with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line had to leave his family to fly across the country to reprimand his 20-year-old employee for dragging her personal politics into the middle of promoting the movie for which she signed a multi-million dollar contract to get paid and do publicity for.

43:07This is called adult responsibility and accountability, and her actions clearly hurt the film's box office. Free speech does not mean you're allowed to say whatever you want in your private employment without repercussions. Tens of thousands of people worked on that film, and she hijacked the conversation for her own immature desires at the risk of all the colleagues and crew and blue-collar workers who depend on that movie to be successful. Narcissism is not something to be coddled or encouraged. not the blue collar workers like not the cast and crew and you know that was like read edited and approved by mark himself i actually don't think so because there was like kind of some grammar things that like weren't perfect but i think messaging wise like i don't think jonah would like share things like feelings about this when it seems like him and his dad are really close it seems like the whole family's really close and i know ben is hating this story oh hating because ben really toes the line and i feel like when we were talking about october 7th he was someone we were really disappointed in who's like somebody no like who's i i think i've told you guys like i don't like len platt yeah he's like openly jewish he loves to like use jewish shtick on his like instagram and it's like a part of his personality and then when like you know jewish lives and futures are at stake like he's nowhere to be found he's putting out tail between his legs statements being like holding space for two he literally said it in a serious way um and because i think he really toes the line of like sure i'm jewish whatever but i want to be accepted in these you know artsy fartsy circles and and it's a little you know it's as I looked down on it I'm not gonna lie I do um but his family Jonah comes right in his family's clearly not like that like with the podcast yeah they're clearly not like that at all they're clearly like very proud Jews and um you just know this story's making him sick yeah for sure not only it's like no the other brothers are like getting attention too now is Jonah Platt straight he is he has a wife oh I was gonna say satchel yeah no i think he's married i'm like almost 100 sure henry what about henry i think he's gay okay is there any others let's say jonah platte siblings first of all ben henry yeah and jonah platte wife yeah he's married cute to a girl named courtney she's so cute look at her so cute yeah galliano is that italian yeah cute um okay since 2016 they got thanks Gemini they got married at the Saddle Rock Ranch in Malibu oh pargy so she was a dancer on a series regular uh hit the floor on VH1 and so you think you can dance go girl yeah so the Snow White stuff is really a disaster and I actually feel like Jonah Platt saying something now like doesn't even matter because like the movie has bombed it's over like there's nothing he can say that's gonna make it get better or worse and then there's the whole dwarf thing too oh yeah well that's the whole movie in general like really from top like from this inception like has just made people upset um but also it has like the lowest rating of any movie on imdb it's made like no money the crazy thing is is that like i know nobody has seen it but the people who have seen it said it's really good no i've seen the people who have seen it say it's really bad there's i've been seeing like clips of like some of the cgi of like calcoteau like drinking some potion and then like running down the stairs and it seriously looks like from the 80s like criticism i heard is that like you know of course they have an original song as they always contribute and sometimes the original songs really do blend and you forget that it wasn't one of the original more the one that they made is really not good waiting on a wish like it's really bad you know all the music i'm on tiktok like like i know everything like it's actually this is a boycott that's hard for me i want to see this movie i know this is my favorite kind of movie i know like beauty and the beast is one of my favorite movies and to be clear like every time they do a disney remake they always modernize it a little bit and people always push back and There's like stupid drama about it.

46:45But it never really affects the overall. Like years later, we're like, oh, that was amazing. And like it always just works itself out. Like I feel like, what was the last one? Little Ariel? What's it called? Little Mermaid. Thank you. Like there was Johnny. She's black. She can't be. She's a mermaid. Like so stupid. You know, the movie was amazing and everybody loved it. Yeah, everybody loved it. Like there's always like a kerfuffle, but it's just like internet. And I feel like that could have been what happened with the dwarves. But this is different. Yeah, this is different because people are boycotting the actress.

47:11And then of course people, you know, free Palestinians are also boycotting Gal Gadot. They won't see her. They won't play her in countries because she's Israeli. It's a Spider-Man. Like nobody knows who to boycott. Yeah. And I'm just not seeing it because like. I just like need to ask Gal, like, do you want me to see it? I want someone like to make me. Maybe you should also see it. No, I just, Gal doesn't want you to see it. Because the thing is, if this movie fails, which it does, it really doesn't have anything to do with Gal. It has to do with like the radical 20 year old Rachel. So yeah, I feel like it flopping is no stain on her record.

47:41then what's next for rachel zegler so she's really unique because she they they call her like rachel berry like she is fucking insufferable even before this there was like a i saw like a super cut of like all the annoying like things she's ever said she's like in her bathroom being like and i hope when my time comes there are lines of people waiting for me like she's so horrible um but she's undeniably like talented it's she really is i think one of the most talented singers out in the Broadway theatrical space right now. So like there are, she just got, she has an upcoming role. It's like a big one.

48:16What is it? Upcoming? Yeah, like they cast some musical and she's already in it. What is she doing next? Let me go to her IMDB. Rachel Zegler, next movie. Come on, Gemini. No, I'm not seeing anything. It's hard to find anything. Oh, all credits, not. what movie is Rachel Zegler starring in next oh yeah Gemini

48:46oh yeah it's not a movie she's doing Evita Ava Perone in the West End you know the Madonna song come on whatever it's like a huge Broadway role okay cool that's good for her yeah she's perfect for broadway the small screen yeah yeah and honestly like i feel like she was also in west side story which i don't think well then ansel elgort ruined that movie she's kind of like a curse she is and she was also in hunger games prequel which i just i only learned recently and i think it did well it came and went but i didn't see it the thing i saw about that movie was the olivia rodrigo song that she wrote for it like that was the biggest part yeah no she's not like a hit maker yeah how many flops do you get before they're like okay you're out I do think theater and music, like you're more often to flop than not.

49:34Do you know what I mean? Like it's a niche category. I don't know, these big movies. But these big ones. When these big movies fail, they take on so much money. Yeah, like West Side Story was like Steven Spielberg, right? Yeah. You know, I wouldn't say it flopped. It was nominated for like Oscars and stuff. Commercially? Commercially, it wasn't huge. I agree. Are you ready for our next story? Our fourth story. If it's our fourth story, that's brought to you by sax.com perchance. Sax.yeah.

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