Social Causes, Ibuprofen & Shawty: Monday, February 24th, 2025

27:18Yeah. As we said, like even Nazis got lawyers. I don't think it's someone who like saw too much and is like or even I think people are now starting to feel like Diddy couldn't possibly win this. like I think a lot of stuff is going to come out. Yeah, but he still would have to pay his lawyers even if he... Yeah, I don't think that stops you. And again, it's like one of six. So I agree with you that it's probably something more inside baseball. Or maybe this man like attended a party or something, you know? Maybe. And they just realized like maybe he's innocent but one time he went to a party and it turned out to be a ditty party with a client.

27:50Or maybe he just found God and was like, I don't want to... But I'm sure there are godly lawyers who defend the guilty. Well, I think a really godly person would say even the guiltiest of criminals deserve a defense. A fair trial. Innocent until proven guilty, they might say. Yeah, this isn't giving godliness. No, no, no. I think that, honestly, if I had to guess, like it's just something like a little, what's the word I'm looking for? Not administrative, clerical? Yeah, I understand what you're saying. There's a lot of drama like around who can represent who. Like maybe he's beefing with one of the five.

28:32Think about that. Maybe one of the five. Oh, perhaps there's an internal conflict. Yes. So his lady. Perhaps it could be a, yeah, a classic case of an, you know, an intercommunication issue. Yeah. Beefing. Or he doesn't want to defend, you know, a freaky ass. No, no, no, because he already wanted to defend a freaky ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think there's drama. Yeah, I think it's more paperwork, you know, pushing papers around a desk sort of thing. I think they went out to teen drinks and it was the classic Dear Toasters. Someone's man flirting with someone's lady. I'll have to check our email to see if we got any submissions.

29:10If we got a submission from Anthony Rico. Literally. But he probably wrote under a pseudonym. Anthony Fico. Oh my goodness. Are you ready for our next story, which I really tried to not choose, but then just all the thoughts inside of me were bursting to the top. Okay. I would love to know what you're referring to. Meghan Markle's latest set of Instagram stories. Okay. I did watch them without sound and I will say the content is starting to lose its luster for me. Like at first I was like, gimme, gimme, gimme. And now I'm like, okay, you're in a field. Like who hasn't been there? You know, there are so many things here.

29:44She posted a set of stories, maybe like six stories, each ranging five to 10 seconds. So like very little snippets. And the first story said small break from work to soak in the weekend sunshine emoji. So it's different videos like around her estate of the flowers and then the grass and the dog running in the grass. And it didn't matter that you didn't listen to sound. It was just the sounds of nature. And then there's one selfie of her that's like three seconds. You can see that she's wearing a Northwestern sweatshirt, which like, you know, Princess Diana famously wore. And like it's just a three second selfie video.

30:18nothing happens but Megan is laughing classic Megan so unbelievably classic now I have no issue with this except for one tiny thing okay when people say like taking a break from work and it's like a Sunday right that's when she posted it or a Saturday it's giving that TikTok sound I just finished work and it's 519 try being an influencer for a day like we get it you work hard haha we all do like when people have to like post on social media like to prove that they're Yeah, like been in meetings all day. Finally have a minute to chat to you guys. We don't give a fuck, you know? Sure. I find that like in a lot of, and mostly I find this in like other, when I'm watching like other content creators or influencers being like a day in my life.

31:00I'm like, well, you definitely chose a busy day and you are being dramatic. Of course, sometimes I'll have the busiest day and I'm like, I should record a day in the life. Yeah, of course. People wouldn't believe what I do. Not every day is like that. And like the truth is, is that like most content creators, like people who don't have really any structure in their drives like they don't even set an alarm you know yeah now I think Megan does set an alarm obviously she has kids I think she naturally wakes up early she seems like an early riser all is that to say the little caption on the video was giving you know meetings meetings meetings try being an influencer for a day but also this is her work actually like when you say like what does Megan even do like if you had to actually nail down what she does like it's being a lifestyle content influencer now so you're not even taking a break from the work.

31:44It's more work. And this is the work. You're creating and publishing content. Yeah. So it's not really a break. But she's soaking in the weekend. She's wearing the Northwestern shirt. She's making a little chuckle to herself. There's literally nothing. There's absolutely. What do you think she was laughing at? What is anyone ever laughing at when they're running through the backyard filming themselves? Like nothing. It's. It's. Um. Totally. I. I need her to stop. No, I mean, it's like just stop until the show comes, because then you post like show clips. There is seriously zero substance here.

32:21And like every time we say there's no substance and she puts out something with even less substance. And it's just it's it's like comical at this point. I didn't even want to talk about it because not every time she posts an Instagram story does it have to be news. But like this was wild, honestly. And some of the videos she was recording, like this, I think she did cinematic mode. So it's like out of focus on a flower and then it focuses in like it's giving Britney Spears. Yes. So the real story here, yes. Every time she posts an Instagram story, it's not newsworthy. I tried. I tried. I know.

32:48Because she's been so silent for so long and now we're like forced to look at this like so critically. I also find it so strange. Like I know when you're at that level, like Meghan Markle's launching a company, you get the best social media managers, the best strategy people. Like all this content is pre-scheduled, pre-published. And the content is so bad and it really makes no sense. and it's not like I think that a lot also about sometimes with Taylor Swift like when she joined TikTok it was seriously some of the weirdest content everybody was like making jokes that she was like cheugy millennial who didn't know how to use TikTok and you know that like she has a whole team of people whose job it is to like source the footage and the sounds and everything and it's like how did we get with this piece of content with how many people who had to look at this and that's how I feel a little bit about Megan it's like this this instead of Instagram stories cost you$100 ,000, 1000 % based on salaries and agencies and contracts.

33:39Oh, no. What I was going to say is like, it's she should spend$100 ,000 to get this right. Like the the way it's filmed, like I really think she filmed. I don't think anyone that's a professional in this would like have put it out this way. Like, she should have someone filming her picking the orange. Like we want to see her. I don't want to see your hand. It could be anyone's hand picking the orange. Like, like, no, I think pretty ways to package this because she lives on a beautiful house. Like Like I love like mindless lifestyle gardening, nature content. Love. Like you literally don't even have to say anything, even though it would be helpful if you did.

34:09So we just like know who you are, but it's fine. You don't even have to. But there are ways to make this like more beautiful. It's a naturally beautiful environment. And like, I don't know how this is such a flop. See, I think that it's a flop. And she had all these people working on it. Like there's no way she launched a huge social media campaign for like after years, like she's finally kind of coming back. There's no way she didn't hire the best of every agency you possibly could when it comes to marketing, social media management, content creators. Think about all the agencies in LA who would love to, like 1 ,000%, 55 people worked on the set of Instagram stories.

34:45That's a crying shame. And I still think it's just her, like being like, I know how to do this. I've got this, guys. I don't think so. Watch the magic. I don't think so. well I look forward to what's next still looking forward to the show um it's not looking good yeah even though what what's today's date we're about 10 days away did I write down the new date in my notebook oh the good thing about being back in the studio is having my notebook yeah you have to fill in Queenie and Weenie even though like I kind of was like fine without it but it's nice to have okay it moved I do miss there's a January 15th it moved to March 4th I do miss a lot of things about my life in Florida one I miss sitting behind a desk I loved the power that gave me and also the flattering angle yeah but these chairs are comfier yes these chairs are comfier I do miss my hotel my hotel was fab I know I told everyone like I stayed at a hotel for the first time like ever since Jackie moved to Florida and I won't be returning and now that I've left the premises I I can say I stayed at the Boca Beach Club.

35:48It was amazing. You should like see if they want to do like an Eloise sort of partnership with you. Where I live there. Where you could live there. Yeah. And be kind of like a character who lives at the hotel. People could come and see you. I really feel like I got my money's worth. You know when you go to a hotel and like you use every possible amenity that they have to offer. We got your money's worth. We got your money's worth. Even the day she checked out. We're like, hey, yeah, Claudia's room. We're going to splash pad. Room 1101. one. Jackie literally showed up every day with her family.

36:19It's so family friendly, but also like I use the spa. Yeah. I mean, Ben ate at all the restaurants. Ben used the golf course. Ben took the shuttle to all the different properties. Like we literally were like, you know, it's like that episode of friends where Ross really wants to get his money's worth from the hotel. So he takes things from the hotel that like technically aren't illegal. Like he doesn't steal the salt shaker, but he steals all the salt inside. Like that's yours to take, you know, that was me at the Boca overtone like that is seriously i was taking everything no and also what they're so good about is so kid friendly but they have like very much like cordoned off adult spaces like it doesn't feel like we were at the beach club which is like a little bit more adult even though they have like a bunch of kids pools we had a couple like hours you and i have just like adult time like we went to the spa we had lunch at the pool lunch at the adult pool yeah where jackie was gossiping so loud like was that where i was gossiping loud yes and i said like could you lower Sorry, we had lunch at another adult pool, too.

37:12At the beach. On the lawn chairs where we were like. Yeah, yeah, but you weren't got to be there. I didn't feel like I don't remember saying anything memorable there. You didn't. Anyways, good times. Good times. Are you ready for our next story? Whenever? Number three. Yeah, for sure. It's sad news. Sad or SAG? Oh, it's sad. But speaking of SAG, like we've made the executive decision to just skip over the SAG-AFTRA awards like you guys barely care when we talk about the grammys and the oscars like we're certainly not talking about sag after awards we didn't watch it and like since when are people watching it because they streamed it on netflix like i saw and i want to say i think they actually did a good job of like trying to get people to watch it i saw like a bunch of clips yeah i'm sure but i seriously think since when are sag after like required viewing i think less than 10 percent of our audience watched the sag awards last night and so great and i'm not a part of that 10 right so we're not gonna like do a whole recap of this thing that like there's plenty of we're just skipping over that one agreed but the sad news is that sad duh is that uh jesus guerrero a celebrity hairstylist of kylie jenner jennifer lopez tons of celebrities has died suddenly and unexpectedly at the age of 34 so this weekend his instagram name is at jesus hair i feel like people probably recognize him from like all the girlies all the girlies and then this weekend news of his death um came out on instagram from the family announced the news on in a series of instagram stories on sunday and then i'm sure you saw everyone's like favorite celebrities posting about him he was just like apparently this great guy talented hairstylist like an amazing person an amazing friend like people are the community's really torn up about it and they're it's very very sad and it's so sad but then like there also was some like a very unverified drama about the conditions around his death apparently he had like fallen ill while traveling abroad with a celebrity yeah who these unfounded rumors said was j-lo and just because like a few days ago he was in dubai in dubai with j-lo and he got very sick with pneumonia and the rumors were that like j-lo left him behind and actually it's been cleared up that like no they got him back to la they got him like uh uh proper care but he ended up getting pneumonia yeah so i don't know what the what the real like conditions around his passing are but there was some drama trying to be made then it was quickly cleared up i'm not entirely sure yeah but i think what is somewhat known as that he yeah he fell ill and then passed away of pneumonia abroad yeah abroad but he was able to make it back and whoever he was with like did everything they could to get him back yeah to get proper care but he still passed which is just so sad so so sad people are saying obviously the nicest things about him but just he seems like someone who's just you know larger than life yeah and who like really was like people kept around like one because he's obviously talented mostly because like he's just got great energy yeah so just that's really sad and he's so young yeah sad passing yeah are you ready for our next story which is some happy news yes it's actually some very happy news i don't know if you've seen this you probably have dolores did it just happen uh dolores oh my god of course i've seen my best friend frank's son frankie jr is engaged his girlfriend nicole perico um they posted photos of the engagement they got engaged on february 22nd in at saint patrick's cathedral in new york city so there's a lot to note they're so italian one like frankie jr is engaged like he did not mess around How old is he?

40:49He's still. He's young. He's young. But he is serious. He's 26, which like nowadays, you know, is young. That's young for a guy. They got engaged at St. Patrick's Cathedral. She is so beautiful. I didn't even know he had a girlfriend. I don't need to know anything more than these pictures to know that like they are a match made in heaven. I agree. I was so shocked to see this one because he is relatively young. Two, he's Frank Catania Sr.'s son who's like, you know, an endless playboy. So I just thought like maybe that was going to be Frank Jr.'s life. I loved to see this obviously that should be me but if it can't I'm so happy it's this girl what's her name Amber?

41:26Nicole same thing so thrilled I feel like Dolores is kind of having an amazing year with traders everybody's loving her she's crushing it now personally things seem to be going really well for her I was thrilled to hear this and it does remind me about the issue at hand of New Jersey and did you see last week there was like a rumor that came out that three people have made the cut and they were theresa melissa dolores no i think i think it wasn't theresa and then i saw that her own show her own show so is melissa dolores who was the third hold on i don't know i saw too It was like unverified.

42:17And Rachel Fuda had her baby. I saw. Yeah, the claims were that Jennifer Aiden, Margaret Josephs, Rachel Fuda, and Danielle Cabral had been fired. And that Melissa and Dolores would be moving forward in the new season while Teresa would be giving a spinoff. For sure. There was a third name, though. I am with you. Yeah, there was, right? There was a third name. Okay. This reality. Hopefully it's Rachel Fuda. But then a spokesperson for Bravo said no decisions have been made for the casting around Roanj. even though I feel like that's kind of like a legit rumor. I agree. Like maybe the absolute decision hasn't been made, but like this is like what's transpiring.

42:50Although I do think, and I'm obviously biased because I'm friends with her, but that Margaret should be on the list of people who stay because like say what you want about her, love her, hate her. Like she is a polarizing housewife who like makes shit happen. Yeah, I totally agree. But she wasn't the third name. She was not. Cause I remember it being like, oh damn, no Margaret. Yeah. Yeah. Who the hell was the third name that I'm glad that you saw it too. I'm so happy for Frank Catania. Yeah, me too. I'm so happy for this girl. Hearts are breaking everywhere. Yeah. He's kind of a dreamboat for a lot of young gals.

43:26But I love that he's like, you know, in a committed relationship at 26. Like you wouldn't expect that from him. I don't know why. Right. No, just because kids these days, you know, they don't want to settle down. Like not him getting married before his dad. They want to have their cake and eat it too. It's true. And he's shirking that. I love it. I love it as well. Mazel Tov. Mazel Tov to the Catania family. Is Dolores? Wait. Dolores Catania. She has her married name. Yeah. She's so old school like that. The Catania Perico families. Well, what's her name going to be? Amber Catania. Nicole Catania.

44:04Yeah, right. A couple of strong C's. Yeah, I was going to say, it's kind of consonant heavy. Nicole Catania. No it's it's perfect she was born for it. Oh you know me and Ben are watching Desperate Housewives and we're almost done with it. So we were talking last night like oh my god we're gonna be so sad when it's over. No Ben likes it more than me like it is and he had seen it before but you know not for a few years and so we were saying what we were gonna do next and I realized upon discussing with Ben Ben has never seen Friday Night Lights and I think that's what we'll tackle next. That's good.

44:33And I was like you don't know Clear Eyes Full Hearts Can't Lose. He was like i mean like i've heard of it but i don't know what it's like regarding that's good yeah i think he'll really like it texas forever he will love it he he will love it you you will love it like literally one time jackie's kid said that like if you guys don't know we've been saying that a lot recently we forgot to give context like one time we heard harry say you you will love it and we never were the same again so you you will love it ben ben will love it ben will love it by the way harry's right are you ready for our fifth and final story that'll lead into all the tv recaps it was the fifth and final story that will lead into all the tv recaps that's brought to you by sonobello sonobello perfect after talking about you know the italians over in the real house in new jersey sonobello so genetics can be beautiful maybe you got your mom's eyes or her great skin but genetics can also be truly a nightmare you know a lot of people say oh i got my mom's belly her love handles rude well don't let genetics be the thing that holds you back from getting the body that you deserve, check out the permanent solutions by Sona Bello.

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49:16Was it Grace Van Patten who was like, yeah, we all watched Vanderpump Rules or I modeled my character off of like toxic Stassi era. Like they are literally the blueprint for culture. Yeah. No. And they're just such like interesting characters that when you're trying to like character develop on a show, it's like all the work is done for you. Just study. Yeah. And I saw Lucius Malfoy, the dad, also talking about his accent because he. I think it's British. And he has such a really specific, it's not just a Southern accent. They were told to do like North Carolina or something. So I bet they watched some Southern charm.

49:51Yeah, well they did. So the little brother told people earlier this month that he prepared to play Lachlan Ratliff before heading to Thailand to film. He says Mike White told him to watch one of Robert's popular reality shows as inspiration for the role. He said, Mike told us to go watch Southern charm. In fact, Jason Isaacs, who plays our dad, kind of modeled his whole accent and character off of that cast. He went on to joke that his on-screen sister got to skip out on the homework because she already had it down. She's from Alabama. She found out through everyone else that they were all told to watch Southern Charm.

50:24She felt left out. So when I think of the dad, yes, I definitely see him as a Thomas. When I think of the mom, like she kind of gives Patricia a little bit. And she is by far the best character. She is totally good. If someone's going to be nominated for like an Emmy or whatever next season, it'll be her. She's so funny. The kids, I'm trying to think. Honestly, the older son is like a little Shep, which like sounds insulting to Shep, but. A little bit, but then he's also a little Austin because he's like younger. But yeah, definitely for the accents, it's really good. The daughter doesn't remind me of anyone.

51:03I'm talking more like characters. I actually think Patrick Schwarzenegger does like a really good job of carrying himself in the role where he like. Oh, totally. walks like with his butt out like a preppy guy like yeah it's more than just accents like it's a whole being persona yes yeah that must be like the coolest feeling too like you're craig and you open up people magazine and you see this like the biggest show in the world and they're modeling themselves after you yeah um and the episode was like fine it's the thing is with white lotus is in order to really like enjoy it you have to watch the whole season so like episode by episode it's not it's not like a fun show to watch week to week it's true or at least it doesn't get fun until the end because like right now we're world building and character development yeah so it's a little bit and people like act like oh my god that was an amazing episode like no it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't like i was bored like half the time was like scenery and animals and then they are pouring tea like it's very slow okay and it's all about like sideways glances like actually right and undertones the only group that's actually having like you know fast-paced conversation where things are moving forward are the three women.

52:11Okay, we need to talk about the three women. The three women are - Because let me tell you how fucking real that was. At first, when like the two girls, Leslie Bibb and Bridget Moynihan, were talking about the third, I'm like, that's so real. There's always somebody who's like a third. And in the first episode too, they were also like leaving her out. But then it turns out that it's just like one of those really toxic friend groups where like you're just talking shit about the other person. About whoever's not in the room. Who's ever - Right. And I'm like, that's also so real. But that girl who we thought was like the initial, and don't ask me anybody's name in the show the one who we thought was like the big time loser but then like also ended up being like a little villainy about Bridget Moynihan like I do think she's the toxic one in the friend group even though it's like a toxic friend group period the one who's staying in the room outside the house yes yes oh yeah no but she's definitely like losing her mind like and she's also like drinking a lot at the other but there's definitely dynamics between all three of them but she is like on the edge for sure yeah and are the other two gonna start talking about Leslie Bibb or is Leslie Bibb kind of like the no they're definitely gonna start talking about her because she was also being weird like there's things to say about her yeah yeah well that was weird no not only that like the Parker Posey thing but why would you remember spending the weekend with somebody 10 years ago no Parker Posey was weird for that and why doesn't why was she either rude or doesn't remember no and also Parker Posey's on drugs so that's why she was weird they didn't say 10 years ago yes they did Parker Posey said 10 years ago to her family yeah was it not 10 years ago I don't know she might have just said that to her family to explain why she was being rude but like Leslie Bibb didn't say that so I saw a theory that you maybe not don't understand because you didn't watch a second season but Portia you know that actress Haley Jo Richardson who's Portia so last season she played Jennifer Coolidge's like personal assistant I think she gets like fired whatever um she's that actress Haley Joel Richardson the who's obsessed with the Jonas Brothers?

53:59You know her. Obsessed with the Jonas Brothers? You do. Just like look her up. You know her. Okay. Okay, but you can continue with your theory. So a lot of people think she looks a lot like the friend in the three friend groups who's staying outside. Is that Ellie? You mean the daughter? Yes, and so they're talking about her daughter who's like kind of troubled. People think that that, I saw a theory on TikTok that like that's Portia, the daughter. I don't think so because they were talking about that girl like she's five years old and she's like that's what i thought also yeah because also not still in school right right right um there's also like a theory going around that this that theory doesn't work for me i just want everyone to know okay that this thailand episode is like happening in at the same time as season two like they're in the same exact time period.

54:52What about Greg? Well, Greg leaves. When? Halfway through Italy. And Greg's been living there for a year. Oh, yeah, yeah. I guess all these theories don't make sense. Maybe I should stop getting my information from TikTok. That's the thing. We're just like kind of desperately seeking meaning here. And we didn't even talk about how Mook, who is like so gorgeous I'm obsessed with, is from Blackpink. Do you know that? The girl? The gorgeous girl who works at the hotel. No, I didn't know she's from Blackpink. She's a member of Blackpink. What's her name? Her name is Mook. M-O-O-K. In the show. But which...

55:25Lisa. Yeah. She's kind of like the biggest one, no? Yeah. Well, Lisa also has her own solo career. She performed at Victoria's Secret Fashion Show. How's she doing all this? She's also a star. And I love that boy. And if she doesn't make that boy her husband, I'm going to kill her. Of course. Well, now she's looking at him differently because he had a brush with death. Now, I did see another theory on TikTok that I actually thought was a good theory. Okay. So when the robbery happens, the gate to the hotel is open because one of the employees, Valentin, comes in as being chatty. And he's in on it.

56:05100%. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I thought I didn't get that on my own. And he's like telling the guard, like, I'll get you tickets. There's not going to be any tickets. And like the guard was just like excited to be included. There is no 5K. like there is no fight there's no fight no the guard is so sweet like i love him so much there are also some theories that say lisa from blackpink is like evil and like a villain here too but i don't see it no i don't see it so then what's the theory about the guy that was at the gate like just that he was valentine that he's in oh i didn't realize like that that was obvious that he was in on it that was obvious yes oh okay my bad my bad what's the theory about the balding with the girl.

56:48Wait, so another theory is that Greg's girlfriend, like that cool girl who lives up there, was also in on the robbery because she's like conveniently in the dressing room the whole time. I guess so. But if she knew the robbery was happening, why would she say let's go to the store? Or if she knew the robbery was happening, why would she leave the dressing room? Like it's safe. Yeah. Yeah, they weren't going to hurt her. I don't know what the theory on the Game of Thrones actress and the balding man is, but they're so my least favorite. They're so boring. Yeah, but what, what's with the balding guy?

57:17Like, what does he want? He's obsessed with the owner's husband. I don't know. I don't know. Who else is there? Like, I just have questions. No answers. Yeah. And they're leaving a lot of questions. Like, so they're going to have a lot to answer for. And then of course, like the question, like who's the shooter? Now we didn't talk a lot about this last week and I meant to, and then this week they kind of pulled back on a little bit. The, the Radcliffe siblings, like wanting to fuck one another. There's like a weirdness there. Patrick Schwarzenegger jerking off in front of the little brother. Both the older siblings kind of being obsessed with getting the younger sibling to be their friend.

57:52They're trying to insinuate something. It's not my favorite. It's not my favorite. Everyone is like, oh my God, the incest vibes. Oh my God, Mike White. Yeah. It's not my favorite. I'm just not paying attention to it. Even when the two freaks are like - Even when he woke up and the tushy was there. The tushy's out. When they're on the hammock, like, well, how could you ask me about me? sex life like seriously I'm not paying attention this is so uninteresting to me no not only that and like I didn't grow up with any brother so I don't know like what's appropriate but I know that like talking to your sister about like her losing her virginity is fucking weird and disgusting and I was like can we stop yeah and I just like even if they are weird and disgusting and like say the three of them have a threesome like I seriously don't care like I'm I'm don't care but that hammock in the ocean like that looked amazing I need the Boca Beach Club to get one of those like yeah it looked so parchy it did look very peaceful until your little yeah it comes up and it's being annoying so funny me and ben were talking about like because we just got back from a hotel and we were like uh ben was like that place looks amazing i'm like really kind of looks horrible like it's not really a hotel it's like this wellness thing but it also has like a beach and ben was like actually yeah i can imagine like having a really nice day there and that's about it like you can't imagine spending a week there yeah except the wellness like you could just like choose massages opt out of yeah but the like it's the first time that it's right it's the first time that like the show is focused on a property that's like not just like a you know a hotel for rich people it's like a wellness therapy retreat who gives a fuck yeah not i think it makes it worse not my favorite not my favorite and then i'm sad for the dad that he's like going i have such a pit for him i know like and i don't even know him but i just like want things to work out for him.

59:35Me too. I'm rooting for him. I am rooting. I don't know why I am, but I'm rooting for him. Like he did his friend a favor and his friend like sold him down the river. Yeah. And I don't know if he's like a good guy or a bad guy, but like, I don't know. I just feel bad that when he goes home, he's going to jail. Like that's sad. No, I know. I, that's not even what I feel bad about. Like he seems so stressed and he has like the biggest pit. Like that's the worst feeling. Like I feel sad for him that he's feeling that. And when the lady was like, can I take your phone? Like, and on the one hand, like, of course, no, I have to find out like if I'm going to jail but maybe like let's find out in seven days it wouldn't be so bad it wouldn't like it's happening regardless yeah but then it's like if he is going to jail when he goes home like should he just disappear right he has the advantage of being out of the country yeah now love is blind can we transition for a minute into the love is blind recap oh yeah so there are now nine episodes out we get six pods episodes one and a half Honduras episodes and now we're back in Minnesota where they've moved into apartments together they're starting to meet families now so many crazy weird things happened let's go couple by couple Jackie Taylor and Daniel short King and Christmas girl and Instagram yeah so have you seen the Instagram thing play out I've seen a clip where she says like I saw okay so you haven't seen it you haven't seen it okay no no oh my god Claudia I literally am still like ibuprofen like stop oh my god okay so they leave the pods and they're clearly like in a holding space they're at a hotel we wouldn't have filmed ever at this hotel they haven't gone to honduras yet but they're just like waiting there and taylor's like it like came to me like where i know him from he followed me on instagram and so she tells producers and they like set up this filming situation where she like ambushes him and like in this like conference room in a hotel and she's like you felt so familiar to me and I couldn't figure it out but like you followed me on Instagram and I remember that I looked at your profile and there was a picture of you sitting in front of a Christmas tree with like a drink in your hand like I just remember it and do you have a picture like that on your Instagram he was like maybe I don't know like I have a picture of me like sitting in front of a fireplace like she was like looking for this one specific photo then she's like there was so much about me in my bio that you could have gleaned that I'm a nurse that I like Taco Bell and that I love Christmas it's like okay well that's a lot of information for your bio but sure so she was basically implying that like he took these little nuggets about her and made them his whole personality because they're both like obsessed with Christmas I'm sorry but if that's what you fell in love over then your picker was off to begin with so she just keeps asking him like did you ever follow me on Instagram maybe you unfollowed me and do you have this picture of yourself on your Instagram?

1:02:20And it's like, well, if she just had her fucking phone, we could figure this out. 20 minutes later, a producer's like, Taylor, we're willing to give you back your phone. Do you want it? Or do you want to just believe Daniel at face value? She's like, give me my phone. So she gets her phone and she admits, which is so embarrassing, that she has that unfollow app where you can see who unfollowed you because he obviously doesn't follow her right now, but he probably did. So we sit there in dead silence. But did he ever get his phone back? no no but it's possible that he followed and unfollowed her before going into the pods why would he how would he know she's going on the pods jackie the whole thing made no fucking sense just wait okay i'm listening but this and by the way he's acting so guilty like she's like if i open my phone and like see you there on that on follow-up like he's like well that's the craziest part of this story that she has she's like well he's like well you might like i don't remember i don't know what you're talking about he kept saying i don't remember i don't remember like so guilty right like i guess he probably just follows a lot of random girls and doesn't want to cop to that.

1:03:18Jackie, they make us watch in silence and she scrolls through all the people who haven't followed her over the years and she actually makes a joke being like, damn, I lost a lot of followers. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, only for her to not find him there. And that's it. That's the whole scandal. I don't know if it comes back, but now I'm at episode nine and it's been buried. Wait, what? Are they still together? Yeah, meaning the parents, it's going really well. It wasn't a thing. oh my god she literally made it up i i don't know but she seems like like a little paranoid plus she has the unfollow app and she's a little instagram crazy this doesn't go well yeah it was so cringe because i'm like oh she's making a big deal out of it and then it turns out not to be true but he was acting so guilty the whole thing and he was like well if you don't want to go to honduras like it's fine he wasn't mad at her at all it was weird that is so weird yeah so then they end up like actually being a cute couple.

1:04:15His parents are like so in love with her. They love it so much. Her parents hate this whole thing, but still agree to be on camera. The parents actually both sets of parents get together. It ends up like being fine. I actually think like they have a shot in hell. I do. Next couple I want to talk about is Virginia and ibuprofen. I actually really like them. I think that they had good chemistry and they have a good time in Honduras, but a lot of their storyline is now about money. She's a little bit older. She does pretty well. She has like a house and she's just been talking about a prenup and he doesn't really object to it she's just like listen like why not there's literally no downside um and then when his parents like hear about it they're definitely like weirded out by it because i hate when people are like well why are you quitting this marriage before it even starts like shut up like i just fucking hate that like a prenup is like especially like for a woman of a certain age who's like built up a life for herself especially getting married in this way like it's a gamble of course it's a gamble of course it is um so they're like quiet I don't know if they have like the great love of our lives like I I don't think so but I could like there's there don't give me any red flags they're just like boring yeah sometimes it's like we're just trying to make it till the end don't notice us yeah right right and then there's Joey and Monica who like are you can't not notice they are beaming with personality all they do is laugh and giggle the sock bin the sock bin she tells this story that like one of the weird it's so funny every family like has their thing right like and like her family's thing is that like growing up like how you know you go into your room you have a drawer for your undies and socks like her family didn't have individual like drawers for socks they had this one laundry basket like full of socks and when you needed socks he would just like go to the sock bin you know okay he can't get over it he can't get over how weird this is he thinks it's the craziest thing ever they talk about it all the time when he goes to her house to meet her parents he requires he says i need to see the sockman it's seriously so funny so they're having like a lot of fun and like all is good but there is something weird that goes on with monica's family monica has a sister so it's monica's parents monica monica's sister and monica's sister's boyfriend and they share that like monica's sister's um boyfriend and her met because he actually was talking to monica and then monica was like i actually think you would like my sister so they didn't like date or fuck but like they were you know they met that's kind Romantically.

1:06:33It was, yeah, it actually made Monica look really good. Yeah. But it becomes very clear that there's like a weird relationship between her and her sister. Like the sister feels threatened or, and like, you know, Monica would be getting married now before the sister. And Joey actually says, because the sister had a problem with Joey, you know, like, I don't know. I don't think he's good for you or whatever. And it's like, there's nothing wrong with him, you know. so they're recapping afterwards and Monica's like yeah she just like always has problems with people I bring home like don't take it personally and he's like asking more about that and he just very boldly was like do you think your sister's jealous of you and like she so is like it was so he kind of diagnosed this family perfectly and it was very brave and Monica was like oh I don't know I never thought about it that way like maybe because of the weirdness can I ask a crazy question yeah like what does she look like like Monica's prettier than her too okay so Joey just sort of like said something extremely brave yeah but also a hundred percent correct because it was such a weird vibe and monica's so like really very lovely girl very positive laughing there was like a weird vibe with the sister and we're like what's going on and then joey said it i'm like oh yeah that's it yeah yeah especially because her boyfriend used to like monica it's weird yeah but then in the trailer it seems like joey stops being so into monica like right now they're in a good place but she just in the trailer she's like I feel like I like him more than me I feel like the trailers are so misleading like remember when they had us thinking that Jimmy slept with Jessica after he was with Chelsea and it turned out it was just about his girlfriend from the past like his friend girl they're so misleading she probably was talking to someone just being like I feel like I like him more than me I feel like I like him more than just like chatting just because I like him so much like yeah I'll be fine fine fine that makes it yeah because I actually think that they're a good couple and they like actually make me and Ben laugh like they're they're They're really sweet with one another.

1:08:25And they're one of the few couples that had sex. So I'm going to cut to Dave and Lauren next. And we'll get into like their whole thing. That's like the arsehole and the nurse. Yeah, the arsehole and the nurse. So when they're in Honduras, they get together one time with the whole group. Dave and Lauren? Yeah, everyone. No, the whole group gets together once. Okay, but have we moved on? Yeah, I'm moving on now. Consider us moved on. So Dave, when they get together, Dave has told us. I hate that they wake up after the first night and they don't just tell us if they had sex or not. Like, I'm sorry.

1:08:55I know it's like invasive, but you should have to tell us. Like, I'm curious. They don't. And me and Ben are like guessing. You know, you can tell a little bit. Dave, when they all get together, goes up to every single person. It's like, you fucking? There's always that guy. I really appreciate it. There's always that guy. I was curious. I would never do it. But he wasn't having sex. So I think he wanted to make sure that like that was normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what we find out is that the liberal and the Christian, I can't remember anyone's names. Oh, the girl and the guy. Gay sister and Christian.

1:09:29Gay sister and church every week, but I barely believe in God. Social causes and church. They had sex, which I found really shocking. Joey and Monica had sex. And I think that's it. Dave and Lauren did not. Virginia. Virginia did not. Those are all the couples, right? No. Oh, Shorty. They did not. Because they were working through like that weird Instagram thing. Like even though after that she shouldn't just like, you know, to talk about something else. She should have just started fucking so that he would forget that weird thing she did. Shorty. So at first I'm like liking Dave because I feel like maybe he was misunderstood a little bit in the pods.

1:10:13Because he was being like. An arse. An arse in the pods. And then he was being really sweet with Lauren about like, you know, whenever you're ready to have sex, like take your time. Like he was being very patient. But then they get back to Minneapolis and things immediately go wrong. Because it turns out that like before the trip, excuse me, before the pods, Lauren was like seeing a guy. Like very casually, like probably just fucking, you know. And I think they hung out like maybe a week before she left for the pods. And this guy is actually kind of connected to Dave and his friends. So Dave's friends, they're like mutual friends.

1:10:48It's a small town. I love this. Dave's friends tell Dave being like, yo. And I love that for the teacher. Right. Like you didn't think the teacher had it in her. So Dave's friends are like, Lauren is like seeing someone. They're really trying to make it nefarious. And so Lauren's like back is up against the wall. She's like kind of being forced to explain this like, she just was having sex. The situationship. And she does. She was like, okay, yeah, like we hung out like a couple of times. He actually used to date this like girl that we worked with. Like we got ice cream. Like she was just like forced to share like sort of uncomfortable parts of this thing.

1:11:24Like nobody wants to admit that they were just like fucking some guy. And he is just like so disturbed by it. He can't get over it. And he doesn't believe her. He believes his friends who are saying like she was in a full blown relationship with this grifter before the trip and wanted to become famous. Like and she's like literally having to defend herself so hard. and it just like doesn't go away because he's like acting weird for like a whole week and he's like, it's this thing with the guy. I can't, and the guy lives in the building that they just moved into. What? It's like, it's this huge building and it's a small town.

1:11:54So it's like, she's, they're supposed to like, you know, get their friends and family together but like it gets canceled because like they just keep fighting about it. And it's becoming very clear because there's nothing here. It's so, she's not like that. You can tell she's, it's so nothing but he doesn't stop. He's using it as an excuse. Yeah, and he's like, well, my sister knows about it now and he's been like obsessed with his sister the whole fucking time. My sister likes that music too. Yeah. And my sister and I kiss. I think you'll really get along with my sister. Yeah. We also use tongue.

1:12:25Like there's seriously like something weird going on with the sister. And then when the sister hears, the sister's already skeptical about this whole process and about Lauren in general, but the sister hears this rumor about. I already knew the sister was skeptical about the process because Dave told me. And once the sister hears about this big scandal, it's like setting them back so much. And it's like Lauren is really well-meaning and he is not. And it's actually painful to watch her like defend herself so hard and just be like not believed. And he's like I don't he literally will say I don't believe you.

1:12:53He's like I believe my friends. Well yeah you have to trust the person that you're with. And even if you have nothing to go on like you have to believe them until they give you a reason not to. So if he can't do that. Of course. It's not a relationship. So they need to break up immediately. In this previews Molly comes and you know. He sees Molly. yeah he sees Molly a lot of theories that like he looked up Molly on Instagram but I don't think that Lauren and Molly are so different looking that you would look and be like oh I gotta leave Lauren to get to Molly they're both very pretty girls like they're not one more extraordinary than the other yeah but I think it's just someone who's like just wants his cake and eat it too like is always going to be looking at the next thing so unless like the other girl was like much less attractive he was always gonna be like hey what's going on over there that's like the other people oh what's going on with ben platt oh you'll have to wait and see can i tell you no but you haven't even please let me tell you you haven't even mentioned him can i tell you this girl can i tell you about ben platt yeah so madison breaks up with mason because like her number one is is ben platt and they like have more dreadful conversations and then he's like nah not proposing yeah like they get to an inflection point and he's like I just don't think like we're good for each other and she's like what I broke up with Mason and he actually said like the Mason thing had a lot to do with it like she just was so high and mighty and like really weird about it and she didn't like how he treated how she treated Mason in that moment wait I don't feel like she did that oh I thought she did I thought she was being really weird with Mason being like you played two girls you don't even like sorry I haven't gotten to that part yet but so far I actually have respect for her that like no when she breaks up with mason like i saw a totally different side of her oh okay because right now i'm like usually people drag the two till the end because they're just sort of like playing both odds and i actually like that she broke up with one and like made a strong choice for a bit but i've never seen i've never seen it that like you make a strong choice and then you don't end up with that guy yeah because that he's saying no that's really crazy like i actually liked the fact that she like early on was like i'm going with ben And I guess she did like throw the other girl under the bus.

1:15:04But I haven't gotten there yet. So they're not in Honduras. They're not a factor anymore. Even though they show up to this party next week. And then Mason and Blondini. And Meg also show up to the party. Oh. Well, no. Not together. No, no, no. But they'll see each other. They'll see each other. And I actually got from the trailer that they had like connected already. Like I don't think it was the first time. I think that they like are seeing each other. It's just like a vibe. I love when there's a party. So the last couple and the episode kind of ends with this TikTok drama and it's about church man and social causes.

1:15:37And so she's sitting on the couch and like everything, they're probably in the best spot. Like everything's going really well from them. They're having great sex. He, you know, brings his whole group of friends to meet her and they're like a really diverse group. Like it was just what she needed, you know, like, no, like for real, like one of the girls there was lesbian. And I think that was like really a relief for her. like wow one of your best friends who you talk about religion with is gay like it was really going well and I was like you know what maybe these two have a future she's sitting on the couch and she's like scrolling on her phone she goes oh my god and at first I thought it was like gonna be gossip juicy like not about her and apparently while this was happening in real time so like a year ago everyone in Minneapolis was talking about the fact that the love is blind people it's a small town yeah so like that the cast is you know coupled up living in this apartment building and this TikTok goes viral of a girl crying being like I'm so sick of Love is Blind casting these terrible men who do terrible things like kind of using very strong words she doesn't exactly say who it is or what he did but just being like I'm sick of it Netflix giving a platform to these people so very quickly the investigators start investigating and it's church boy is that his name yeah that's not Ben Platt yeah okay and then other people start sharing their stories.

1:16:54Now, he hasn't been accused of any great crime. Like she was definitely using a lot of euphemisms. Like she was just being exaggerating, but basically he's like a dick, you know, he like, you know, dates a lot of girls, says he wants a relationship, then never hears from you again after you have sex with you. Like nothing criminal, but you know, not good guy that you want to bring home to mother behavior. And then a lot of girls are like, Oh my God, I dated him too. And we went home together. Like it was kind of giving, remember like West Elm Caleb yeah yeah like just like a viral guy in a city who like dates a lot of girls and like promises them the world and then they have sex and you never hear from them again um and Sarah is in this unique spot because she's like her social cause like she's like well I'm not going to invalidate this woman's experience you know she but you know there's no proof I'm not going to also write off my fiance because of this one video where she doesn't really say what you did right and so he was like she was like have you seen this tiktok and he's like yeah he had already seen it so he must have had like the biggest pit until she saw it and she's like do you know this person he's like yeah kind of like we dated four years ago and she's asking him questions about the relationship like did you ghost her did you have sex with her and he's like no i didn't have sex with her um i can't remember if i ghosted her she's like you don't remember and so she's like grilling him she's really trying to straddle the line between like not invalidating this other woman's experience while also holding space for like, it could be a lie and this is my fiance and I like him, but I also need to do proper digging.

1:18:23And so she said at the end of the episode, right before they cut, was like, I believe you, but like, if I hear anything else, so if there's anything else you want to fess up, like, let me know. Cause if I hear something else, I'm going to be pissed. And I do think in future episodes, cause like the TikTok blows up and other girls start coming out. I think it becomes a much bigger thing. Okay. yeah well I look forward to hopefully getting there one day maybe next year at the rate I'm going but if I were you seriously like fast forward to the pods when no when the new episodes come out like just join me no you know what maybe I'll just start watching Honduras now like because I want to see that that's fun no you need to see Taylor scrolling through the unfollow app that's Honduras no it's before Honduras okay I'll skip to the end of the pods But I do like to see people's reaction when they see each other because I just know.

1:19:13Like, do we have a chance? Yeah, you do. You do just know. Like, was anybody, is there a physical, like, issue between anyone where it's like someone was just pleased? Where sometimes, like, it's so obvious that somebody finds the other person so ugly that, like, they can't go on. Or sometimes it's, like, so obvious that someone is more attractive than the other person. And it's like, even if they're not acting like it, it's like, well, we all know. A thousand percent. No, there's nothing like that. That's when everyone's very ordinary. and I saw Nicole Byer talking about this on a podcast and I had said it, like she said it in a much funnier way.

1:19:42But she's like, throw some ugly fatties in there. Like it's really, you're like, is love blind and everybody looks the same? Well, we don't know. Yeah. Like it's really, it's only really interesting when it comes to like the blind love experiment when there are people of varying degrees of sexiness. Like, I'm sorry. Yeah. Everybody on this cast is equally good looking. Yeah, this isn't a question of like, is love blind? I mean, the show never actually sets out to answer that question because. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Like, love is not blind. And when you're in a pod, like, you're really just talking to yourself.

1:20:18Like, it's actually, like, yeah, some people have found relationships, like, coincidentally. But it's not because, like, love is so blind. Like, because then you could have the same conversation with someone in person. And just, like, the way that people speak. It's not even about what they look like. How they move their hands. How they, you know, squat over. Jackie, who am I? How they squat over like they're on a table. you're blind you're love no being blind love you are love being blind um so new episodes come out in four days you have four days to catch up oh my gosh well why it comes out on friday the 28th i think what did i also get the weekend then it's a oh yeah again okay that's good yeah they do it on the on friday and i literally forgot like i have to read a 600 page book for the red okay and it's only Monday okay well on that note thanks yeah but should we wrap up yeah we should so I can start reading thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast of the Millennium Morning Show where we do love the fast-sized stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so if you're watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up we're also available as a podcast anywhere podcasts can be found so at Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, iHeartRadio, CastBox all the places where we listen to podcasts find us at Toastly a five-star review about how beautiful, about how stunning and about how wickedly talented we are love you goodbye I have given up on hard hands now that I couldn't even do it with a monitor now that you see that you're the problem I couldn't even do it with a monitor in front of you proof and I'm so glad everybody was able to see it they said yes Jackie is the problem something that's just as important as never giving up on your dreams is also giving up on your dreams when you realize they're out of your reach they're not realistic yeah I love that so So goodbye.

1:21:56On that note. On that note. Love ya. We could both go like this. Love ya. Bye. Love ya. Bye.