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Podcast Notes: The Toast - Episode: Soundmakers of The Century (September 4, 2025)
Episode Overview In this episode of *The Toast*, Jackie and Claudia Oshry dive into various trending topics, celebrity news, and personal anecdotes. The episode features discussions around Kelly Clarkson’s return to television, celebrity relationships, fashion news, and pop culture commentary.
Key Segments
- Introduction and Labor Day Reflections
- Jackie expresses joy at returning from a short work week, appreciating the four-day workweek post-Labor Day.
- Both hosts share excitement about their fan interactions at the U.S. Open.
- U.S. Open Highlights
- Discussion about the performance of a doubles team sponsored by the hosts and their increasing popularity.
- Insights into men's tennis rankings and players.
- Celebrity Gossip and News
- Kelly Clarkson:
- Update on her talk show, *The Kelly Clarkson Show*, set to return soon.
- Speculations about a future memoir.
- Wuthering Heights Trailer:
- Review of the erotic trailer featuring Jacob Elordi and Margot Robbie.
- Reflect on the artistic choices and the film's potential impact.
- Zoë Kravitz and Harry Styles:
- Report on their romantic involvement, noting its implications for her previous relationship with Austin Butler.
- Bethenny Frankel:
- Discusses her past relationship with Jennifer Aniston’s new boyfriend Jim Curtis, providing commentary on their personalities.
- Sofia Richie Grainge:
- Teases her new clothing line, SRG Atelier, discussing the challenges of celebrity fashion ventures.
- Media Recaps
- Discussion surrounding *The Summer I Turned Pretty* and *Real Housewives of Miami*.
- Claudia shares her dissatisfaction with character developments in *The Summer I Turned Pretty*.
- Jackie gives a recap of current tumultuous dynamics among the *Real Housewives* cast.
- Miscellaneous Discussions
- Personal anecdotes from Jackie and Claudia about their experiences with media and public perception.
- Insightful commentary on motherhood, mental health, and societal expectations.
Main Themes and Commentary
- Work-Life Balance: The hosts discuss the importance of short work weeks, using Labor Day as a jumping-off point to reflect on their professional lives.
- Celebrity Culture: A significant focus is placed on the fluidity of relationships within celebrity circles, highlighting the interconnectedness of public figures’ lives.
- Fashion Industry Challenges: The discussion reveals skepticism about the success of celebrity fashion lines, illustrating the high stakes and challenges even well-known personalities face in launching their brands.
- Media Consumption: They reflect on their media habits, indicating a shift in their viewing preferences post-motherhood.
- Community and Support: Personal stories illustrate the hosts’ connections with their listeners, fostering a sense of community and shared experience.
Key Takeaways
- Kelly Clarkson’s return marks a significant moment for her fans and her career.
- The *Wuthering Heights* trailer showcases a modern interpretation of classic literature, blending eroticism with cinematic artistry.
- Celebrity relationships often provoke public interest and commentary, especially when involving high-profile figures.
- The fashion industry remains a complex arena, with many celebrity ventures facing obstacles despite initial hype.
- The hosts maintain their comedic and engaging style while discussing serious topics, contributing to their popularity and relatability.
Conclusion This episode of *The Toast* encapsulates the vibrant intersection of pop culture, personal experience, and social commentary, with Jackie and Claudia's unique wit making it an engaging listen. The blend of celebrity news, reflections on work-life balance, and insights into the fashion industry makes it a compelling episode for fans of the podcast and pop culture enthusiasts alike.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy thursday that really doesn't feel like it because we haven't even acknowledged the fact that of course we came back to work on a short work week god bless labor day hey jacks how you're doing i'm doing good and i just want to say our founding fathers ate with that one too because i think that they knew after summer like to ease back into work like it has to be a four-day week if this were a five-day week it would be more challenging and this four-day week the fact that it's thursday is like the best the highlight of blessing today it's insane it's like so unearned but so needed yeah sometimes you'll get a national holiday um and it's like okay you know i didn't need it but i'll take it very much like columbus day slash indigenous people's day like it's in the midst of holiday craziness like i don't need it but i'll take it and then sometimes you get like you're in the desert you know it's a cold drink exact a mirage if you will in the middle of a hot dry desert and that's what we needed and it's been a great week so far.
1:24Toast is back. Your girls are back. It's just... It's been amazing. Things feel right, turtle-oo. I saw a couple of toasters in the street and also at the US Open. Everybody's like, are you so happy to be back? I'm like, yeah. And I'm not even lying. I'm so happy to be back. Yeah. No, it feels good. It feels good. Now, I have a list of things I need to chat with you about before we dive into today's show. And I have a list. So I have four things, if you'll allow me. Okay. the first is we have to talk about what went down at the u.s open last night the spritz brothers they won again the spritz brethren brother brother tracy like jj tracy and bob cash i almost said bob ross um this doubles team you know relatively new that we sponsored like they just keep winning they beat another like top 10 team yesterday they're just these like two young guys crushing it um and i love that like everyone's now watching i'm sure i wonder if like espn is curious why this like random because i had to download espn plus i paid 20 a month now um 29 actually which i thought was probably the same to watch a match and i'm sure they're like what's with this uptick in interest in this you know random round of men's doubles well obviously the toasters are behind it they're playing again today and i think if they make if they win this one it's the finals which i will be going and i just want to say a spritz athlete has never lost a game chills just something to think about that is statistically true in this moment no and like i'm getting athlete never loses i'm getting so into tennis i'm literally page lorenz like sir like it just upsets like like could like i get home and i'm like we have to watch and i know everything you know what i mean so who's gonna win the men who won last night who's winning i'm not watching so it's so funny that you brought that up because me and ben were talking about like the top players and obviously like jokovic uh who beat fritz alcaraz jokovic won and then alcaraz is just crushing and they're ranked like two three four five i'm like wait who's ranked number one and it's this guy named sinner who i've literally never heard of um happy for him everybody's really excited he is playing tomorrow yeah so he's in and then this guy from Canada who's ranked like 25th but he's kind of the underdog he's made it so far and everybody's like loving him what about that what about that so yeah Yannick Sinner but who cares about that I'm on to doubles I've heard of him I just want to say I've heard of Yannick okay Paige yeah you've heard of Yannick I'm pretty sure I have I don't know in what context but like that the name feels familiar second thing I need to talk about did you get your mail yesterday no i didn't but i saw that you did and you got with love megan pr and i just need you guys to know like if you thought i wasn't getting it it is on its way to me so it was they reached out dually at to both of us at the same time not to the girl who clowned on the show and by the way whenever that show did come out i don't know how you guys remember it but nobody was more supportive than me a thousand percent that's why we're on the pr list yeah so i got and it's a party pr i I don't want to ruin it for you, but I do want to share with the listeners that what Megan is sending out.
4:35I didn't even post all of it. Oh, because I saw what you posted. So, yeah, it's two boxes. And in one box is like, you know, Megan Inc. As ever, jam, shortbread cookie, a bunch of napkins that say with love, Megan on it, which like, no offense. I don't know why I need that, but I'll take it. A spatula that says with love, Megan. And then there was a second box of baking pans from our place, which is that brand everybody loves. they're pink and they're actually perfect because Ben needs like bread scented exactly so it was really a high class affair and I got the jam cooking with pink pans I don't know I got the jam and like not to complain because I'm obviously really grateful to be on the PR list it was apricot oh man you guys know something about me like I really only fuck with strawberry and maybe raspberry if I have to blueberry would be fine no it wouldn't like apricot is just like she might as well give me dirt no i'm very jam specific i understand well i'm so looking forward to getting that i think we should do a patreon of us like baking some of this stuff well oh so they also set like a recipe placard that i'm literally framing it's like from megan um of how to make the shortbread cookies that she she sent like her company makes like a shortbread mix yeah mix yes and then she has her own recipe for like they were called like fingerprint cookies or something?
5:56Patreon. Totally. Oh, yeah, the fingerprint cookies. That's what she made when she went on that show. And she got all the fingerprint cookies. Synergy. Oh, that's very exciting. I keep checking the door like a kid on Christmas. Because I believe mine is coming because they asked for my address as well. Of course, checking the door to Laura. The shipping center might have been closer to New York. It happens sometimes. Now, the third thing I need to talk to you about was major, major, major, major things happening on the internet yesterday alex earl using made a tiktok using our sound and i feel like that was her virtue signaling to us like she hears what we say she appreciates how supportive we are and she loves us that's that's how i received it yeah i received the subliminal message as well very josie and the pussycats also a lot of people use our sounds like we're very viral our sounds are very popular people love the things that we say and they want to mimic the things that we say like that's and they want to be us they love us we're so perfect and rich and gorgeous that's just been a fact for a while like people love our sounds and big stars have used our sounds huge Renee Zellweger but when it comes to TikTok like the biggest person who could use your sound is Alex Earl like this sounds about to live another life and what do we do about it you know I don't I'm trying to not let it get to my head obviously I was glued to my phone all day what where do we go from here i just think that we can add that to our resume of like viral sound makers yeah yeah viral audio curators yeah like sound makers change makers in the industry sound makers i love that yeah so that's what we podcast and we sound make and that's like okay you know you know like the the djs who do like remixes that everybody then uses for transition reels and like that's there like we're like that and we also have jobs we are like the guy and 2024 season has come to a close sammy sammy who we did go to middle school he's a fellow viral sound maker yeah exactly there's a couple of us we should get together and have like that viral sound con like the 500 pound sisters you tried to be in my size for a day you don't know how it is you can do stuff so we're just amongst those people we're you know we're kind of giving like thousand pound sister energy these days i love that for us i really do a thousand pound sisters be drinking lemon water i don't think so oh no nurse she's out with her lemon water wait you did remind me of something i wanted to say i'm trying to take care of my instrument like i really i'm trying like it's actually so important that i have a voice i was editing redheads last night like listening to myself speak like it was making me cough more because the girl can't speak i know you're not into pharmaceuticals obviously however a mucinex in a situation like this like does go extremely hard for sure i'm pregnant like oh right yeah no if i weren't pregnant yeah hit me up um i'm not taking anything like seriously especially now like can't trust anything although mucinex did give ben a 12-hour erection so one time when he took it you know you take so just letting you know mucinex d emphasis on the d oh well that d goes wild i just want yeah yeah and that gave ben a 12-hour erection but like allegra d clarida d when you add the d i'm not even joking you like it's a any his mean that like makes you nutty it's like taking it makes you hard well i didn't know that it makes you hard but you know that when you're trying to wean from breastfeeding it's useful to take a mucinex because it uh strips you of your liquids you know in your nose in your breasts in your throat just a little inside baseball now speaking of breasts the fourth thing i wanted to talk to you about which is something i sent you last night and you didn't even respond brood um was emily oster i've kind of been begging Emily Oster.
10:01I'm sorry you sent it at a horrible time. I didn't even. No listen I'm gonna play it for you. Don't worry. Where'd you send it? In fam chat or in. Yeah. Okay. So I've been like sort of begging subliminally Emily Oster. For those who don't know I was trying to explain to Ben. I see. Who is Emily Oster Jackie? Like explain her to me. Emily Oster. So she's like a professor of economics. She's a statistician. That's her like trade. She runs numbers. She does data. And then she became pregnant and a mother. And she started applying all of her like data analyzing skills to pregnancy and motherhood in terms of best outcomes for pregnancy, best outcomes for parenting.
10:35Based on data. Based on data. And she put all of that into a series of books that have become, especially the pregnancy book, Expecting Better, that have become really like the most popular pregnancy books at the moment. She's like the leading swirly on all things parenthood, motherhood, babyhood, pregnancy. Yes, and she's also close personal friends with Dr. Fox, which gives her more street cred in the space. So I've kind of been like waiting for her and like just subliminally begging her to speak on Ozempic in breastfeeding. I feel like it's the perfect topic for her. And I guess she does these weekly Q &As.
11:14I just followed her on Instagram because last night somebody sent me her Instagram story being like she's speaking your truth. Somebody asked weight loss meds while breastfeeding. I heard it's OK. I also heard it's not OK. What does the data say? Now, I have read the data. Actually, there's like one study done. and God forbid they invest in women's studies. Here's what she had to say. Best and most recent data we have really doesn't suggest that these medications pass through at meaningful levels in the breast milk, so it's really not a concern for your baby. When you are first breastfeeding, especially in your establishing supply, you really want to make sure you're getting enough calories, and that's probably not the time for the opioid.
11:50But if we're talking about your six months or a year into breastfeeding and it is time to think about some weight loss for whatever reason. Time to think about some weight loss. There isn't any reason that breastfeeding necessarily needs to get in the way. Now, this was huge, obviously, for fat girls, breastfeeding everywhere. Because as you guys know, the bane of my existence, like my cross to bear in this lifetime, is that I absolutely love breastfeeding. I have an amazing supply, and I'm crushing it. And I didn't think that I would. and unfortunately like I am gonna have to stop because I need to get on a Zepic and it sounds like Emily Oster is saying like I actually don't have to so I appreciate Emily for telling you what you want to hear if you I still don't think it's a good idea and I appreciate your input I appreciate Emily's input I'm appreciating a lot of people's inputs until I make my decision I haven't decided you've decided no I said I haven't decided oh okay but having emily on my team huge for the community now who do i have to pay to like do a study and i want to totally impartial time they take years because you have to then see how this baby it's not just a minute like oh what happened in this minute that the baby no why like give me ozempic for a month and i'll make milk and you tell me if there's ozempic in the milk the end but it's not gonna be ozempic in the study concluded it could be other things that That have long-term effects, not short-term.
13:19I'm sorry. I just can't live like this anymore. I can't live like this anymore. Even though I was just having this conversation with somebody, like having weight fluctuations as a public figure, like it's so interesting, right? And I talked about this a lot. Like when I got really skinny, I felt like I definitely had more work opportunities. Just like brands, fashion, like you're open to more things. But people like hate you because you have an amazing personality like and you're skinny like you're lethal i feel like now that i'm fat again like people like me again do you know what i mean i'm feeling more beloved than ever and that's like kind of one thing i'm really liking about being overweight again but do you also think that um the beloved that comes from like new motherhood like it's not just now you just gained weight like you didn't know people love fat bitches like we're non-threatening right like we're not gonna take your man we're fat like people especially on the internet they love to champion someone non-threatening yeah and little do you bitches though i'm so fucking threatening like no but i think it's more than just like a weight gain i think you know new motherhood i think also being a mom is great for opportunities as well so i think you're feeling the love but not for just the reasons that you think no i'm telling you like look in turd self-lid no i'm telling you like they love a fat bitch they love mother turdy mother theresa like seriously is so threatened by I mean, it's disgusting.
14:40They love mama turd. Mama turd, for sure. Just saying. Anyways, let us know what you decide if you're going to take Ozempic and breastfeed. I will. I haven't decided yet, but I just wanted to let you know those are the four things I wanted to discuss. Robert Cash, Meghan Markle, Alex Earle, Emily Oster. Anything you want to talk about? Well, since we're talking about, like, medication and pregnancy, I kind of, like, broke the internet yesterday when I said I wasn't taking prenatals. Like, literally, I... I just, like, threw that in there. well Jackie and I found out over the summer let me just say people like messaged me and asked me and I could tell they were like some people were not good faith you know because they just wanted to screenshot what I said and be like she's crazy what happened and she is by the way no no no I'm actually this is me not even being crazy I took these prenatals in both my pregnancies she got me on them I've been on them for like four years and I had I you know I liked the results so I took them I was taking them again for this one and Claudia was taking them and then a couple months ago the prenatals were recalled yeah so I said fuck all you bitches I'll eat more fish I'll have a steak yeah yeah that's fucking crazy it's crazy I was the one who told you about it because I got a DMS of what prenatals I took and I just that I still wouldn't even know that they were yes so I just shared send me a piece of mail and it wasn't like this like niche company like I would say it's like one of the The yellow bottle.
16:06It's the yellow bottle. It's like first on Amazon. It's first at every grocery store. It's everywhere. And I've been taking them for years. I just posted it. And everyone was yemming me like, hey, bitch, you know these were recalled. I said, excuse me. I deleted the story immediately and I told Jackie. Yeah. Yucky. Yucky. So I hear you. So that's why I'm not taking prenatals. It would be weird if I continued to. Well, I did continue taking those prenatals after my pregnancy because I heard it helps with hair loss. and then I found out they were recalled. So I switched to another one. Next thing I know, I'm shitting orange.
16:38So I just got off the pills. Like I'm just on a break. Just eat healthy. Well, I can't. I can't. No, it's not that it's hard. It's simple. It's not possible for some of us. It's just like a lot of admin, you know? Like I have to go to the store and buy steak. Then I have to cook it. I thought you were saying it's a lot of admin to take the prenatals because that was something that surprised me in pregnancy. Like I took them every day. Like I didn't, I don't think I missed one. Yeah. No, it's exciting to get to the bottom of the bottle. It marks like a big moment in your pregnancy. You're like, I'm one bottle through.
17:10Because it's such a big bottle. So if you take one every day, it means something. It's like a marker of time. That's a milestone they don't warn you about. It's the passage of time. It's a significant one. Yeah. Yeah. Now, in terms of stories, what's the elk? CT, classic toast. Speaking of elk, I've got to get a Powerball ticket. It's over a billion dollars. Did somebody win? Let me check. I've been liking the stories because I feel like over the summer, every story was like such a massive story that required like in-depth investigation. And today and like this week, it's just like little stories that we can just chat about and move on.
17:48And I'm enjoying that. Did anyone win the Powerball? Winning numbers for$1.4 billion. No one has won. No one's come forward. I gotta get a ticket. no grand prize winner but there were a couple people who won two million and one million dollars i'm happy for them can't wait to see them in the next season of my lottery dream home yeah no that's the sort of warnings that will ruin your life you know because you like just get big ideas you forget about the tax man oh wait speaking of yannick sinner i just heard something interesting brooks nader is rumored to be dating yannick sinner well i saw her and her sisters who are doing a great job at creating buzz for their show and i promoting their show yeah when the time comes i will be watching 100 um time being when i like finish real houses in miami i saw her and her sisters like talking about her roster and making a lot of allusions to tennis yeah so um my sources my sources are saying yannick nader well i love that yannick because like gleb i know she's got like talking now about like gleb broke her heart like how i don't know like how you think to be dating tom brady and i was gonna say broke your heart the charity she was doing dating gleb when she literally has been connected to tom brady and yannick no it's crazy but like truly when i hear her speaking about gleb like she was really in love with him which is so crazy that is crazy like it was very real even though the whole time we thought it was not real i meant to say now that alex earl has used our sound i do think i'm gonna watch dancing with the stars and i know that the listeners of this show who've been watching for years and like who are obsessed there's a cult about dancing with the stars like i'm ready for the documentary um who like go to see them on tour they're gonna be like so excited to hear me say that but i'm in this era i'm in my cable era i feel like once you become a mom you watch a lot more cable and i think i'll be watching do it to us okay great I'll keep you updated.
19:49I won't stop you. Oh, you know what we didn't do yesterday? Who do you think is going to win? Dibotas. Mm-hmm. You have to read me the entire roster again. No one jumped out at you? I don't remember. All I remember was Lauren Haraghi's ripped tights. One, I think Alex Earl could win if she wants to. But I could also see her. I know, but she's like the obvious winner, and they never let the obvious person win. I could also see her a few weeks in being like, I want to go home. You know? This was fun. Yeah, of course. Get me back to Miami. me yeah i miss brax alex earl robert irwin oh i could see one of the secret lives girls i think i'm gonna put my money on whitney me too hilaria no jordan childs like she has the talent but i don't think she has the fan base dylan efron honestly they love to like you know put like men no the men who do like bare minimum like he's so good like do you see what the girl's doing yeah whitney yeah i'm looking at the rest i do feel like whitney yeah they also love to give it to somebody in the synergetic network of Hulu, Disney, ABC, SPN and like rising tides rise all shides.
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25:51Her talk show return date has been revealed following Brandon Blackstock's death. So Kelly will be making her long-awaited return to her show, The Kelly Clarkson Show. Production on the season will begin on the week of September 8th with celebrity guests like Julia Roberts, Dwayne Johnson, and Emily Blunt in the lineup. Oh, okay. So just like back to business. Back to working on September 8th. Now, I feel like it's almost, not quite yet, but it's almost time. for the show to end no for um come on i don't know for kelly clarkson memoir like i would have thought that she would be a perfect candidate for kelly clarkson memoir like truly america's sweetheart america's first idol like she's lived such a life but she also now has like a very sort of like mysterious, sordid personal life.
26:50And now this great tragedy, I do feel like we're going to get a Kelly Clarkson memoir in the next couple of years. And it's going to be like insane. Yeah, but not like she couldn't sit down to write it today because I think. No, she's still living through it. She's living through it. Things are unsettled. Who even knows what will be with the show? I think once she finishes the show and she enters the next chapter of her life, that chapter, no pun intended, might include a memoir. Memoirs of a Kelly Clarkson. Of course, of course, we have to, you know, project, no, predict, excuse me, what members of a Kelly are going to be titled.
27:22Because I'm thinking like a breakaway colon, the Kelly Clarkson story. I think something like America's Idol. Love, love. Or like maybe she'll take some time off and I'll be like, since I've been gone. They honestly are endless. Oh, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger? She has so many. She really does have so many. I saw like a funny meme going around that was like American Idol like sent out set out to like find the best voice in the nation. They literally crushed it season one. And they should have closed down shop ever since like the mission was accomplished. They literally found the American Idol.
27:58Correct. They also found like Carrie Underwood and other great talents who were crowned American Idol. Of course so many people came from American Idol like Jennifer Hudson. I mean David Archuleta. Chiletta. No, but like Jennifer Hudson came from American Idol, but she wasn't the American Idol. He didn't win either. Right. So, but I'm just saying like the job they set out to do. Was done. Things they did, that. Now, obviously Kelly Clarkson is a dream guest on this show, even though we like don't do guests. And I do think that when she writes the memoir, like that's the perfect time for her to come on.
28:30Like we will get an advanced copy and we will do an in-depth interview. Okay. So we'll see you in a couple years. So write that book, Kelly. Get to work. Yeah. I am excited that, you know, when you're dealing with something as tragic as she's going through, sometimes just getting back to work helps, you know? It takes your mind off of things, gives you purpose, fills your days. And so I don't think she would be returning if she wasn't ready. Because I think the network, like, respects her. I think, like, they would give her as much time off as she needed. She is holding that network together. I agree.
29:00And I think probably the harder parts of this entire journey, like happened earlier before you know and like he was dying and there was time and i think those months were probably really hard yeah um so i hope that this is the sign of like better days to come yeah for her yeah yeah yeah and it's just really crazy that like we don't see kelly clarkson out and about more she lives in new york well she is kind of like a hannah montana where it's like if she puts on a ball cap she's just a regular girl yeah and as somebody who has actually met kelly Clarkson ordinary girl oh my god and my voice is amazing today I didn't even think sticky shoes sticky shoes my sticky sticky shoes I did meet Kelly Clarkson and it was at like a fancy event and she totally blended and I think she was wearing like a baseball hat she's extremely low okay yeah exactly which is nice for her yeah well I'm looking forward to the memoir I'm looking forward to the show returning um just Queen Kelly always like sending love from your Clarksonators It's true.
29:59Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. A little book to movie news, not the typical kind. Wuthering Heights trailer has dropped. Yeah. Jacob Elordi seduces Margot Robbie in erotic footage from Saltburn director Emerald Fennell's movie. So we knew that they were playing Heathcliff and Kathy in Wuthering Heights. And the poster, like, looked legit. Like, I thought it was a weird casting. and maybe I just like a PTSD from this book in high school like being so torturous Heathcliff is so Heathcliff oh Kathy like who knew her name was Kathy I just like wasn't excited about this and then I saw the poster I was like oh you know what it looks like they're really making like a period piece it looks like they're putting you know respect on Heathcliff's name it looked good and then I heard Charlie XCX is doing the soundtrack and I was like okay no they're making it like a swirly salt birdie like can we just adapt literature in a meaningful and respectful way the yassification of Wuthering Heights right like why something that I was yearning for correct and I want to say I saw the promo I saw the charlie xx and I was like okay no like this this is a bridge too far Emily Bronte is like rolling over in her grave and then I watched the trailer and yes it's definitely uh a porno if you were looking to go to the theater and see some porn but it looks like good and well done so with the porn aspect i'm actually okay with that you know like i don't think that makes it like yassified like pride and prejudice had like a little you know horny in the sense it was very um romantic no like did you watch a trailer no it was like fingers like you know um sensual yeah but they weren't on body parts it was like sticking i can't explain it they were like some raw eggs and like i don't know it was just like porny yeah yeah yeah yeah it went like a lot of tactile things um but definitely sign i don't know how much porn you can put in a trailer so they were just uh showing us what's to come but also like i don't think margot robbie like shows titties so you can't be that porny is the book erotic i don't think so because we wouldn't have been reading it in high school yeah so everything is porn these days so like if i can get past that yeah i'm not bothered by the porn like the charlie xcx like really threw me off but when i saw the the poster i thought he looked great with those sideburns it was really giving mr darcy no he really transformed for the role and even though we think he's like a big loser this looks like it could be an amazing role of a lifetime for him Like he's not just like, you know, what's the kissing booth playing Heathcliff.
32:43I just want to say he will always be the kissing booth playing Heathcliff. But yeah. He has transformed himself. Yeah. It's a level up. Yeah. Plus Margot Robbie like gives everything like a stamp of approval. Yeah. She's so legit. She doesn't miss, I guess, except for Babylon, which I never saw. So I couldn't say I'd probably like it since everybody didn't like it. I think there's some promise for this movie. Yeah. And even the Charlie XTX song that was playing in the background was like, obviously, so churls. But it kind of worked with the mood of the trailer. It worked. It was a good trailer.
33:17So churls. If you're a trailer maker, like in The Holiday. The Holiday. I would say you're a good trailer maker if you made this trailer. I like that. You really tied it all together for me. Yeah. So, I'll see you Valentine's Day. Me and you. We've got big plans for the month of February, me and you. I feel like we're going to be living together. You know that? What? You're going to be down here. We have a lot going on for the month of February. Because we're going to Rascal Flatts. For the whole month, yeah. What else are we doing in February? It's just always a big month. It's presents weekend.
33:52There was that festival that wanted us to come and grace them. Yeah, we're not going. Maybe we should because we'll be together. But we're not going to be together. Wuthering Heights is coming out. It's Harry's birthday. Speaking of Withering Heights, we haven't even talked about the new Downton Abbey movie comes out next week. I already bought tickets. Like, I'm literally going in the middle of the day. And it looks amazing. It's all about Mary. I know. I have to tell my husband he's going to be so excited to go to the movies because it's all he ever wants to do. So apparently the premise of the film is that Mary is divorced, which makes sense because in the last two movies, like, her husband didn't even get cast.
34:32He wasn't even in it. and she's you know it's the 1930s she's a divorcee and it's like extremely radical and she's considered like super radioactive and nobody wants to be around her socially and I think it's all about like like a phoenix Mary rising from the ashes well I can't wait no I can't wait the the trailer another a plus stellar trailer looked so good I bought tickets immediately oh that's really exciting I gotta get my tix yeah you know so it's big time for movies big big day for movies I feel like it's that time of year where everybody's gotta like like it starts the rollout right of the actual good movies thanksgiving movies right yeah movies i feel like real movies yeah speaking of the person who uttered those immortal words zoe kravitz and harry styles were spotted holding hands in brooklyn so people are saying so harry styles is stateside like huge news yeah harry styles is down the road from you literally not me like roaming the streets of brooklyn harry and he is definitely well you would be doing that anyway as like an auntie who loves you have so true i always forget like that's like my son's name he makes up for prince harry being like a big weenie he carries the name really well he he gives it like a lot of parginess yeah like aura okay gen z okay alex arrell aura yeah you used it perfectly first time using that word crushed it slayed crushed felt good um so these two are dating like i don't know what happened with austin i don't give a rip zoe kravitz and harry styles are dating and in the circle of these interchangeable celebrities who have been dating each other recently this fits it does i feel like it's gonna be really awkward for her and austin butler because it's clear that she started hooking up with austin butler when they were doing this movie together and then she got an opportunity to date harry styles and she said sorry i'm out and they're gonna be promoting they're gonna have like a lot of future work together and the way that it seems is like she just called it because like a better thing came along love that for her and it's gonna be weird when they have to start promoting stuff or like they were asked to have a fake relationship for the movie and she was like yeah sure whatever um but then oh that gets in the way of me dating harry styles no yeah because when opportunity knocks like you open the doors and so like the movie that they made might suffer because they're not going to be pretending to date.
36:52But okay. Like she gets paid regardless. And she now is like running around town with Harry Styles. Mrs. Harry Styles. And I just feel like he would be so in love with her. I would love to know how Carol Radswell feels. And Olivia Wilde. Yeah. Olivia Wilde is like so MIA after that. I feel like what happened to her? She needed to take a break. Things got really hot. Yeah, they did. With the divorce papers being served on the panel. with the with the movie of course oh right shia and like her professionalism was called into question with that her integrity as a woman too because she's one of those you know the future is female t-shirt wearing types of bitches and then she was out here like forcing Florence Pugh to work with a known abuser no no but not even that like what Florence was saying was that like she was so involved in her relationship with Harry on set that they like she didn't like show up and direct direct like flow started directing so like her capabilities as a director have been called into question that was such a crazy saga it was um another one that i'm like so happy to be on the other side of yeah yeah and yeah yeah and yeah like now harry's settling with zoe love yeah although he was rumored to be briefly linked to olivia dean who i talked about on this podcast a while ago now everyone's obsessed with her but like i started it first and i told you you would like her music i don't know if you've heard it's like a song all over tiktok now so come be the man i need tell me i got something to say i want it do you have you heard it it sounds like i have yeah okay well um i heard that they were dating but i guess not i think he's always dating yeah but think about harry he's like he's gonna date yeah a girl like if he it's a week you know when he's single like why wouldn't he go on a date every week thousand percent every night a different town she follows me around why not so yeah then a lot of girls have dated harry styles i believe it was the great hillary duff who once said why not yeah are you ready for our next story oh some more new couple news bethany frankel reveals that she dated jennifer aniston's new boyfriend jim Curtis and delivers a verdict on the new couple.
39:09So one Jennifer Aniston has a new boyfriend. I didn't even see this. Be right back. Jim Curtis. He's like a businessman in the wellness space. He is like handsome and age appropriate. And like, so that's really nice for her. But now Bethany is making news because on her podcast, she shared that she dated Jim like 10 years ago. She said that he's Bethany Frankel and Jennifer Aniston like would date the same person. No, same elk. Yeah. Which I think, and she said he's a really nice guy. She's really happy for Jen. She said it didn't work out. He works in the wellness space. And I've just never been like about that.
39:43She said, I don't love all areas of it. And I don't always take all areas of it seriously. We talked about it, but we just didn't get that into it. So I think like, you know, not a match. I want to talk more about this guy. He's extremely hot. Yeah. He looks like a mix of Jon Hamm and Eric Dane. That's one of the best calls I've ever made. she's obviously like Jennifer Addison right like she's Rachel she's everything like Brad Pitt like when you date Brad Pitt it's like hard right right he's extremely hot oh my god how sad every time they talk about Jennifer Addison they talk about Brad Pitt not me just actually doing that but like in page six because I'm reading this article you did just do that seriously leave the woman alone leave the woman alone well it's about her relationship history right so it is sort of germane sort of sort of he has a son with his ex-wife okay that's great um i am sort of like now you know lamenting the breakup of jim and bethany they could have also right what could have been but she said like he's just i think she was it's funny because she is like wellnessy but not in a woo-woo sort of way no and just like a skinny way yeah she's just skinny she just like wants to like cook healthy she just drinks lemon water and chicken salad but she said like this is probably a better match jen is like an actual true california girl and while he's not a california guy he vibes with that wellness talk it's very hollywood and very actor not a diss just a fact she said sounds a little bit like a diss but no i feel like i understand what she's saying it's like a vibe yeah that she's outside of as i'm just saying it's a little dissy as you i as do you and then those people would look at us and be like well you're not well slobs yeah like you don't live at this high vibration that we do like sad for you thousand percent they would say something about our vibrations right so like they don't feel like sorry for us and we don't feel sorry for them great great we see each other i love that one thing about bethany is like she's gonna find like handsome wealthy men to date you know yeah well i had seen like some the headline was like this jennifer aniston's boyfriend dated this real housewife and i'm like who you know it's always someone like random totally but it was bethany and really she is another one who has like a very long history in the industry and she reminds me a lot right now like she moves a lot like chris and cavallari yeah very eligible using your podcast yeah tell us about all the people you Dana.
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45:51Richie Grange is coming out with a like a luxury clothing line which I found shocking I don't know why obviously like she's a tastemaker a trendsetter everything she does is viral everything she wears gets sold out so like naturally you'd want to have your own company i just feel like even the best the biggest like everybody's clothing lines flop like it's literally impossible to do and i feel like she was making really smart moves up until i don't know if you saw she became like an investor in shop my yeah i saw which is like one of the affiliate programs that megan markel's actually using it's like a lot of influencers use it you can shop you know your favorite celebrities closets it's a pardy company and they're really up and coming and so i thought sofia richie grange being on board for that like made total sense i don't know why i just feel like i cannot think of even the coolest best gals everybody launches their own things and like they all fizzle they all like are it's really hard to like set a price point that people like be size inclusive enough for the internet to like to have make it uh styles that people honestly you know who's doing it well i'm mentioning her twice on this podcast dairy boy I actually placed an order this morning because I thought it was Pardy.
47:00It's so Pardy. It's so Pardy. But I feel like she started really small, built it up, built it up. I can't think of a lot of examples of where people crush it. And it's not about the person because the coolest, most stylish, Pardy-est girls can't crack it. Yeah, I agree with that. However, I think one person who is like an exception to the rule but also is kind of proving the rule is Molly Mae. she like i feel like sophia's clothing line will be like akin to molly's in terms of like style it's like very like okay let's can we keep it national though because i feel like uk is different but like literally everything i wear is maybe i love maybe i think it's an amazing brand i love the clothes it's like like molly style she wears it in everything she's not even like she's trying to promote it's like what she wants to wear however when i watch her docuseries like it looks like fucking torture i feel like she regrets right ever starting it i think that happens a lot to people even if it's like successful you don't make enough money yeah no you don't make enough money like the margins the coats came out and they were like shitty quality and then everybody clowns on her on the internet of course and i don't even know if she had to like issue returns or she had to like cancel the rest of them it was like millions of dollars and it's like a nightmare so even though i'm having fun here and my silk pants yesterday were from maybe and literally i'm always wearing maybe i i don't know how it's going for molly i don't know no i think it's unenjoyable and yes Sophia Richie is set up nicely where it's like she has built in wealth fame where it's like all the things that maybe a small business wouldn't have to deal with she probably doesn't have to she probably is like huge investors like it's fine but I don't know like think of like like something maybe and I'm not saying huge investors I'm not saying this in a negative way but like her clothing line did not succeed and like she's perfect for it right perfect for it people buy everything she wears influential fashion girly on the planet like everything she sells out high price low price she can sell anything so i don't know i i feel like if i'm sophia richie i'm not wasting my time with this like fruitless endeavor because even the ones that are successful like you don't even make so much money like with fast fashion like and everybody just clouds on you like are you ethically sourced are you size inclusive like fuck off i can't be everything yeah and there's i would never not to mention like the original thing that you're setting out to do is to create something that doesn't already exist there is so much out there and not to make everything about us but like on a very small scale like we do merch which is just merch by the way and it is so hard we get so your shipping is not good enough your size inclusive is not big enough it's not sustainable enough like okay like please i don't know what you want i'm not woke like the rest of you okay yeah so i i'm curious to see what you would say i can see myself really liking it i just don't know why someone would do this to themselves when they They don't have to.
49:45I do think, though, that the comparison to maybe is a good one. Yeah, but I would love to know how Molly's feeling about maybe. Like, it seriously seems to be the bane of her existence. But then she's also, like, opening new offices. She was just posting, like, in this huge office space. So they're obviously, like, making money. Yeah, I think it's a one in a million type of thing. I can think of way more unsuccessful ones, and I don't want to be mean and say them. And I'm not saying it in a mean way. It doesn't mean that you're a failure. I think it's, like, an impossible industry. I think a really good example was back in the day, because she was just talking about this recently, Whitney Port.
50:18When she was on The Hills, she was like the best style on the show, like just so elevated. And she was on a podcast saying like all the money that she made from The Hills, which was a lot of money, she put it all into her clothing line and like zero. And I remember when she had stores, she had a line, like it was successful and it still isn't, it's not a success because it's impossible. Okay, yeah. like okay now I'm thinking I'm trying to think of other examples because one that's really successful is the bar Bridget yes but even that she shares all the time it's rife with issues like it's the hardest business to be in and I feel like she's one of the very very rare ones who did it successfully yes also Morgan Stewart is having success right now readily yes that's a good one that's a good one but she said she's she's similar to uh Sophia Richie in terms of I I feel like she had like Pardee Investor set it up really nicely.
51:11Like she can start from scratch. Yeah. Hopefully it's like worked out well on the back end. It's also like still relatively young. Mm hmm. But it's really hard. It's not a business I would really ever, ever want to be in. Yeah, I agree. Unless you do it also like with a big partner, which it doesn't sound like SRG Atelier is with a big partner. But like, you know, Lauren Conrad for Kohl's. Beautiful. But then everybody's like, you're wasteful. Like these corporations are evil. Like you can't fucking win. You know what I hear? Cha-ching. No, I think - Kohl's, we are available. I think doing it with like a big partner like that, like they have it all, they've figured it out already.
51:50And then you lend your name. But then you get into the Jessica Simpson debacle where you don't own your name. Like it's literally, it's impossible. No, but I think Jessica Simpson is happy with how things have shaken out. Yeah, of course, but she had to buy back her own brand from one of those big box stores and - Same with Martha Stewart. Yes, it's like hundreds of millions of dollars. yeah so i'm just happy to be a podcaster you know yeah and i look forward to seeing what she drops because i feel as though i would like it and i would clothe my body you would too i think i would put my body in it because she is a modest woman yeah and i hope yeah and just like with her wedding that inspired other girls to just like be modest and classy dress nicely i hope that this like has the same effect right like a wave of just like everybody covering themselves up in a normal way not like low hemlines not like you know extremist like you know covered to the but just you know like put your titties away at work or something yeah yeah it's a lovely look it is yeah let's get those let's do those the chew cheese up the check when you're in hemlines the yardstick oh my god i love that she should call her label yardstick and everything will pass the test that's kind of a nice name for like a somewhat like sophisticated modest line free idea make it and i'll buy it i i'm not gonna do it because as we just discussed it's impossible it's impossible things i will never be a clothing designer you never know watch i actually think i'm gonna be the head of chanel next year yeah we would crush it was that the fifth that was the fifth and final and uh any tv you want to recap i watched the second to last episode of the summary term pretty and i just want to say i'm hating every minute of the show i wish all the characters on the show would just like never see each other again so i didn't have to watch them um and in the books i remember like you're supposed to dislike certain people but at the end it's like all about spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler alert it's all just like otp conrad and belly and even now i'm like please you two are miserable i don't want you to be together you're both ugly and stupid I hate them all.
53:59Hating everyone. Everyone is dumb except Taylor. Taylor. What about Steven? He's fine. What about Shayla? She hasn't been seen in two years. I think the acting is also getting worse. It's just, it's bad. Yeah, that's like the big reveal in the finale. It's Shayla. Then I'll watch. But I'm boycotting with Shayla. Like, I stand with her. Oh, so you haven't watched since she left? No. She was my favorite character, her and Steven. And then she just like didn't get asked back for season two. Like I'm not like I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. I'm not watching this crap anymore. What are you watching?
54:36Well, I've been watching Real Housewives of Miami. Oh, right. Really making a lot of progress. Like we're in Seville. The girls are fighting. Stephanie is tough. Like she's tough because like I want to like her. I watched the first few episodes with Stephanie and she just came off like unlikable. Like on paper, she has all the makings of a great housewife. She is so wealthy. she has a plane that she can actually use and like yeah people on at her disposal a lot of husbands a lot of girls have like a plane that's like their husbands or the husband's companies but like they can't be going on girls trips with it right but no she really like she flew herself and like three of the girls to Seville she which girls okay so she chose Larsa of course and then uh Julia because it was Julia's trip and I think she likes Julia because her husband loves Martina got it I feel like Julia gets like a lot of extra like special treatment from just random things in her life because people love Martina because like they went on a double date Martina and Julia and Stephanie and Masood and he's like not really given like that much to the show but like he's like talking to Martina the girls go off to talk and like Martina Masood he's like your arms at Wimbledon were incredible they showed a picture they really they really were they were like so when she won they were so taught like and he remembers that from like 30 years ago i'm just looking at these photos oh my god i literally don't recognize her oh yeah her arms her arms so i think that stephanie i honestly i could see a world where like masood and stephanie decided to join the show because that's how big of a fan just to meet martina yeah she was fighting with alexia in one episode and because and alexia like dropped something like well your life isn't so perfect or you wouldn't be in the shit show which meaning like why would you come up like your life is so perfect and it does look so perfect and successful it's actually so true her marriage looks amazing and it really does um so why would you go on housewives like right so but i honestly now i think it's to meet martina i wasn't loving stephanie i liked that she had amazing style when you have so much money like you can buy everything at chanel like it's easy to have a good style but you could tell like she really has an eye for it yes um and yeah the plane like it's exactly what i want for my housewife but i don't know something's like not connecting for me yeah no on paper like everything is good and I really like her outfits too um and I like that she's a strong personality but some of the things that she says are like the hard lines that she draws I just like don't completely agree with so she invited Julie on the plane and then she had one more seat and she invited well I and I don't understand why she could only have like four passengers right it's a big plane yeah so she invited Marisol because she's getting along really well with Marisol she's not been getting she keeps like fighting with Alexia they like can't see each other even though they would both like get along in there like mart larsa marisol stephanie and alexia are all in like a little friend group but they keep butting heads anyways she invites marisol marisol's like i'm not leaving alexia to fly commercial this is also like a trip for her and even though i don't understand how it is but okay um and so stephanie was like okay and so stephanie invited alexia to fly with them and alexia was like i'm not leaving marisol like oh right why couldn't you bring the two of them i don't understand i thought you were gonna say alexia said yes i'm like oh my god that's so mean marisol said no she would like never i thought she was asking alexia to be like i'm gonna bring on a fifth person but she literally could not bring a fifth person on the plane i don't understand i don't understand that either then when they're in seville they're going oh maybe by the way because did they film on the plane they did maybe because of production crew members yeah maybe that i thought that too but like i'm sorry someone could sit on the toilet seat for takeoff it's not a big deal then when they're in Seville they're going to Marbella for the day to see Julia's friend which is a 22 minute flight so Stephanie is keeping her plane in Seville to fly everyone to Marbella oh she's rich for the day and back but Claudia the way she is holding it over everyone's head is so insane I feel like I'm missing something because she's like the girl they can't at every meal they're all fighting Larsa and Lisa it's so bad then Kiki and Adriana start fighting like everything is just getting crazy and she's like flipping out she's like I can't have you all on my plane if you're gonna to act like this like i'm like what do you mean what do you think they're gonna do no in a situation like that like book me it's a 22 minute flight i'll fly commercial like can everyone behave for 20 i don't think there is commercial flights like i don't even i don't i think it's really i'll miss the day trip to marbella so she was like if people can't behave for the 22 minute flight like i'm not bringing you back like oh she had like i'm like what what is the plane gonna do like fall out of the sky if the girls are screaming like i don't understand like distract them like i don't see what the real issue is like but she keeps talking about it she's so nervous about it and then the morning of marcel and alexia are like we're not coming marisol and alexia they're like oh i'm with them yeah like because she was like saying you know you have to take your shoes off she had like a memo as she said she doesn't like poop i don't think she wanted anyone to poop on her plane like and they were like she's just bossy like we don't yeah we're not going the day wound up like being really amazing in marbella and it all worked out on the plane and everyone got along and everyone's like dancing and having did alexia and marisol go no and now like stephanie is like so offended that they didn't go but like don't invite people on your plane if you're gonna act like that like don't hold it and like it was just it was so nasty no good deed like yeah so um i'm i'm okay with stephanie because she's like friends with larsa and i i i think she has a plane she adds value but i'm not like entirely like uh like riding for her riding for her and what sometimes when she fights with Alexi I'm like you're right or you're right but now like I don't know what's gonna happen with Marisol she's always been good friends with Marisol and now Marisol is like knock on on the plane and she's so offended she kind of sends Miz honestly yeah but like it's it's it's good and she adds value to a show yeah arguing with someone at every meal love that for her and then also moving on right on her plane yeah but like moving on is an important part of being a housewife like every episode there are new people fighting it's true while larsa and lisa remain the same but it's very fresh and that's why it's a really good season but then they all have this fight at this restaurant and something must have happened because all of a sudden they all start getting up they're like this is the most embarrassing thing i've ever been a part of they all go back stephanie goes back to the hotel like crying she can't believe like that people would act this way and i feel like we missed something because they they talk like that at every meal all the time yeah and then all of a sudden it was like a switch flipped and people like larsa Marisol Alexia and Stephanie all left the restaurant they were like we will not be a part of that that was humiliating I'm like oh I wonder well what why why is this night different from all others yeah I don't know someone let me know if you know some inside baseball tomorrow's Friday which just feels like like it's almost too soon it's like Friday but we'll see you then thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast the Manor Morning Show we do the best stories you need to remember Monday through Friday on YouTube please don't forget to subscribe to this video thumbs up also available as a podcast as a podcast we found so that's part of iTunes it's your public video I guess love ya bye
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