Stronger Than Expected: Thursday, December 5th, 2024

0:00Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. We made it to the second half of the week. I'm in a better mood. Hey Jax. How you dern? Yay. Would you say it feels like a Thursday or a Thursday? Thursday. I don't know. It's a little derzy because... It is actually. We have so much going on today culminating with you coming to my house for chicken parm. Not only that, it definitely feels like a Thursday. And I meant to bring this up yesterday, but it was happening while I was recording. And I don't know if anybody heard. And today you might hear all day yesterday helicopters all throughout the city.

0:38There is a manhunt. Everyone I know is really taking the manhunt really seriously. There was a shooting of a CEO in New York. And the guy ran. And so now everyone's out in the streets. There's cops everywhere. Every street is closed. There was helicopters whirring all day yesterday. so I don't think the shooter's like looking for any of us but like it is crazy to have like a shooter on the loose uh so it is so in that sense it's giving durs day so if you hear helicopters I am going to run today's audio through like a background noise reducer um through a helicopter manhunt reducer yeah I don't know if they have that setting on my program but that's what that is it's also durs because usually the redheads comes out first Thursday of the month in the morning but we're actually recording today because the redheads are they're hard to get all in one place their mothers coming out their podcasters their business owners their executives like they can't their satchels they can't know how hard it is to nail down a satchel i saw i got a piece of satchel last night last night yeah at soto yeah and i'm wearing my soto merch you guys know like i'm obsessed with the soto method let me just show you guys my new sweatshirt yeah method by parky yeah by parky um i work out well not these days but like i do did once upon a time once no no I didn't mean one time once upon a time yeah about 15 months ago I committed my life to fitness exclusively via the Soto method which is actually I have to give credit to Jackie she introduced me to her friend Hillary from college who started the Soto method she's kind of like my best friend now I think like we would say she's my friend no like yeah you're closer you see her more and you're closer with her now but the originator yeah you're friends with Hillary by way of me correct by way I know I saw videos from the event last night she's also pregnant um she has shared with with twins right yeah she's eight months pregnant with twins and she's like leading this fitness empire teaching classes she's making me so nervous she's literally an inspiration to women like I want to see her on the Hollywood power of women like pregnant with twins leading a fitness class like not stopping gorgeous most gorgeous woman in the world so she had a party last night because she opened her very first like flagship studio she's been doing these pop-ups all over the city and they're so popular so she's like an official space in tribeca and she gave a speech and first of all everyone was crying like it was she just like had a bunch of people she needed to target like her chief of staff her husband her parents like her brother like everyone and she's such an amazing speaker she didn't have like you know anything written down or anything and everyone was crying because she and then she was like i know people look at me and they're like in awe you know i'm eight months pregnant i have literally eight pounds of baby the babies weigh eight pounds right now and like they're pushing on my gallbladder and she's like and I know everybody thinks like I'm so crazy and like how hard it is she's like and that's life like life is hard but you can do harder things so like she was basically telling everyone to like do more I was like oh work harder yeah I was like uh no okay I love that and then I got to see Sachi because Sachi was there too so it was really nice to just be out with my Sachi well I'll be talking to Sachi for about 75 minutes uninterrupted except by Dana and Rebecca this afternoon I finished our book for the redheads last night shred sisters oh Dana she knows how to pick them in a good or a bad way in like in a Dana way like she keeps us literary like yeah I would never have read this book I didn't I flew by like it was one of those books that's just I don't know what the point is we're just passing the passage of time I think it's about the passage of time and sisterhood and also a thing that they kept saying in the book it's about two sisters who are so different like me and you just kidding not like us at all but they kept saying like no one will ever love you more than a sister or hurt you more than a sister and like people say that about sisters not my sister that's not true not my sister time that no no I don't like that at all even when we read good sister it's like there's always this trope like the sister it's like you know the best and the worst to have no like it's just the best no not for everyone like yeah there are examples but like these over these sweeping generalizations like Don't apply to everyone.

4:29No, everything is different for everyone all the time. But like they just say that's like the fact about sisterhood. It's like sometimes you love it. Sometimes you screw sisterhood. And that's just not been my experience. So I just want to like shed light on the fact that like that's not a universal truth. Unless you're Victor Garber, of course. But then it's screw sisterhood all the time. Correct. You don't get that love. I'm so excited to come down to your house. You know, I feel like the last couple of times I've come to visit you, I've just been like, yeah, I'm going to my sister's, whatever.

4:58But whenever I come to you in like the dead of winter, it really is like exemplifies why people move to Florida. Like I totally get it. It's so unenjoyable here between the manhunt and the 20 degree weather. Like I gotta go. So that's like something I'm looking forward to. And we have Jisno. We have family time. I'm very excited. Yeah, it's going to be a really fun weekend. The weather here is like so pargy for us because it's there's a chill in the air, but it'll be like hot for you. Winds in the east, a chill coming in. And it's going to be a great weekend. And tomorrow we'll be together in front of the Flamingos.

5:30Yeah, doling out Queenie and Weenie. Queenie and Weenie. What a long week. I know. When you think about it. How were the stories today? They actually were stronger than expected. S-T-E. I like that. Mm-hmm. Stronger than expected. And so I guess that's what we did last night. Soda and shred. Soda and shred. Shred and soda. Yeah. What else did I do last night? I made a soup. I wore a skirt. Because like I said, there's a chill. We've got some runny noses in the house. Oh, good. Great. Oh, yeah. You'll be fine. It's literally just a runny nose. I'm really excited to see you and Liv and the kids.

6:07Like, have the kids been talking? Is everyone just being like, Coaches is coming. Let's wrap presents and give her stuff. Is that what they're saying? Yeah. Yeah. They're definitely saying that. They're excited that Romeo's coming. Yeah. Bruno is, like, getting his crate ready for two. Oh, yeah. I need a crate. I mean, Romeo can sleep in Bruno's crate. Bruno doesn't sleep in there. It was just a little joke. No, no, but you reminded me. Romeo, I've never traveled with Romeo before. I've never brought him to your house. And we also do also have a spare crate. Okay, good. Romeo's never been to my house.

6:34I don't think so. Oh, he's in for a treat. Yeah, and he's like, he's going to freak when he sees the backyard. Like, he's going to be like, wow, my cousins live like this, and I live in Squalor in Manhunt, NYC. I'm going to say yes. Well, you know, if the plane won't let him on the return flight home, that's okay, too. Imagine. I just, like, gave up Romeo. By the way, I could never. I haven't even really talked about my journey with Romeo, like in recent weeks you know it was a slow start for me in Romeo let me tell you there's nobody like him like he is I actually and I said this to Ben and Ben doesn't like when I compare Romeo and Theo I actually might love Romeo more no no no but the thing the thing is is that I so specifically was setting out to find a dog who was a carbon copy clone of Theo that I actually now think of Romeo and Theo as the same dog so I like the love that I had for Theo just transferred what's Romeo's birthday December 16th and what day did Theo pass like me and Ben thought this we thought that they might have crossed like on the same day and we were or he's a reincarnated spirit they okay so Theo was dying when Romeo was born so I think that Theo maybe had one leg in the other universe met Romeo.

7:49Theo died after September 16th. No he died early December. Yeah but hold on hold on I'm getting my dates. I think there's probably like a week. How long does it take to reincarnate? Do you have to be born on the same day? I'm not completely sure. I feel like there's a few days of like you know soul passage. I think he's the reincarnated spirit. I'm trying to find just give me a second because me and Ben.

8:15Take your time. December 14th was when Romeo was born. Oh, okay. And then I could tell you because we did this one's for due episode. But that was the day after. Right. Remember we took the day off. December. Okay. One week. One week. Exactly. December 7th Theo died. December 14th. Romeo was born. I believe it takes one week to prepare the soul for reincarnation. For that significant passage of time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me and Ben have talked this story. So I feel like when I'm looking at Romeo, like I don't even feel guilty about having so much love for him. Like it's literally Theo. Like I did, I did what I set out to accomplish, which was like literally clone my dog.

9:01They look exactly like. Copy, paste. Yeah. Like I pass a picture of Theo on the fridge and it looks to me it's Romeo. That's so sweet. Well I'm so excited to see dear Romeo and Ben is Ben flying with you? Of course not. You know he loves to take a separate flight. It wouldn't be a trip to your home if me and Ben did not take separate flights. He has an event tonight and I wanted to come tonight so it's a Southern Charm premiere which he's really excited about so. That's awesome. Yeah and like Spritz is like you know it's like a whole thing so. Southern Charm is on tonight. Oh my god I'm so excited even though I didn't finish watching last season but I think I'm just going to jump right in.

9:33Start fresh. If I wait I'll never watch it. yeah yeah yeah and they have all these new cast members so i think what's past is past that's what's significant about the passage of time um well yeah as we've said so many times with our annoying you know non-events that we have so much going on today um i think we should get into the stewries me too let's not stew so not stew beef stew do you want a beef stew while you're here should i don't beef chunks i don't i'm good anything else you want to request because i have to get the meat you know just like have meat you know for when i decide what i want like asking me what I want today for tomorrow is fruitless no no but like what are what are in general like what are you craving seriously all I eat is pizza like frozen pizza pizza bagels pizza from the street like I I'm running on pizza but is that what you're because it's what you're craving or it's just easy and filling it's easy it's filling and it's not cheese so it's like protein it's like a salad it doesn't gross you out yeah yeah it's not necessarily what I'm in the mood for okay well you can take a look at the recipe book oh my god your menu items I'm so sorry I can't believe I did a whole recap.

10:35Yesterday I saw Mark.

10:39Mark Schoenweiter. You have a lot of Marks in your life. If you know, you know. I do. No, I saw the only Mark in my life. It was Mark Schoenweiter. For those who don't know, like three years ago, this girl from my high school texted me. We like kept in touch and she runs like a production company. She's like, I'm putting together this video series where I'm putting like pairing like celebrities, influencers with different Holocaust survivors to make a video that will share like each day of Hanukkah. It'll be like a different celeb. And I was like, duh, love. she introduced me to like who I would be speaking with.

11:07His name was Mark. And we met at a studio downtown and I interviewed him. And let me tell you, like I fell in love with him from the minute I met him and we've become best friends ever since. Like also with his family. He has like two daughters and a ton of grandkids who are like toasters and like college age. So like we love. And he's from New Jersey and we're just, we're literally best friends. Like we talk all the time. And now we started to do that video every year. Like the series no longer exists. Just like me and Mark, it's kind of like become a Hanukkah staple and everybody really looks forward.

11:31And every year when we released the video, we raise money for his foundation. He has a foundation called the Mark Schoenwetter Holocaust Education Foundation where they give grants. Like any teacher, if you're a teacher, you can go on his website and apply because there's no Holocaust curriculum and public schools don't have funding for textbooks or anything. So they give out grants. People will apply and they choose people to give grants for buses to museums, curriculum, Holocaust education, and it's really, really powerful. And I know so many toasters who are teachers have applied and some of them have even gotten the grants.

11:59And so it's a small foundation, but we're getting bigger and every year we raise money when me and Mark do our video. Small but mighty. I think we've raised like$200 ,000 in the last couple of years. So we filmed our video, our annual Hanukkah video. We made Sufkaniyot, which is like the traditional Hanukkah treat. It's basically a jelly donut. It's so good. We went to like the famous Bread's Bakery and baked them together. And I don't know if I like shared, just kind of like big news with me. I don't know. Did I share this? Mark actually, his daughters, a couple of months ago, they asked me, yeah, me, to be a board member of their organization, which I've never been on the board of anything before.

12:33It just felt powerful. I was like, oh, okay, board. We have a meeting next week. It is. They don't ask, like, slobs to be on the board. No, it's, like, actually really serious. Yeah, that's awesome. So when I was sharing that I was with Mark, I wanted to share because so many people were like, oh, my God, what was Mark's reaction to your pregnancy? And I actually forgot to share that when Mark found out I was pregnant, he left me a voicemail. And it was seriously, like, I actually can't even listen to it too many times. it like makes me so emotional. It was the sweetest thing ever. And I am going to play it for everyone because it's too sweet.

13:05It's too sweet. Let me get. Claudia and Mark greater than Ben and Alex Gornicelli. It's like not even a comparison. Okay, are you guys ready? Like seriously, get your tissues. It's the sweetest thing. Hi, Claudia. This is Mark Schoenwetter. First of all, and the most important thing, I want to say congratulations. I am so happy to hear that you're going to be a mommy. All the best to you. Hopefully, we will see each other soon. And all the best again. Feel well. Do things well. And congratulations. Talk to you soon. Bye. feel well do things well like do things well bitch okay yeah like that you know what he's saying of course i do that's literally some of the best advice i've ever received i agree much i love him so stay tuned for that video you guys are gonna quake when you see what we got into oh i'm excited have you ever been the back of a bakery like no no let me tell you jackie it's it's like seriously the most amazing place you could ever be like there's just like food everywhere and i know they had to clean it really yes like i i feel like it's one of those things where it's like it's just there's flour everywhere yes okay fine there's not like not actually edible goods the edible goods are in the front where there's powdered sugar there's dough it's like seriously like a fairyland and i guess like i know they had to i know they had to like clean the whole place after i left because i was like putting my finger in everything being like yeah what's this like yeah yeah yeah so stay tuned for that well while you wait for that video So enjoy this video.

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19:49So after a heated social media exchange between Maddie Healy and Azalea Banks, he says he'll stick to music. He said, guys, I don't have the right kind of intelligence slash emotional maturity, etc. for social media. I literally just end up saying stuff that I immediately regret, etc. I'm actually just going to stick to music because I'm good at that. Having manic episodes on Twitter at 35 is kind of pathetic. So this started because Azalea Banks called out Charlie XCX, who is engaged to his bandmate. Yes. I didn't know that. And I also know that she's friends with Maddie's fiance. Good friends.

20:25Yeah, no, it's like a 1975, like, you know, groupie type of thing. So I knew that. So him defending her wasn't shocking to me. But Azalea, like, you know, she likes to take swings at people who literally aren't even, like, talking to her. And so she did that. And I think most of the time she expects nobody to respond. But somebody major responding. And she took the opportunity to eviscerate this man. And seriously, I think Taylor Swift is going to send her flowers. Like, she came for his teeth, his music, his life, his family, his fiancée. What he first said, because she was, like, talking about Charlie XCX looks.

20:55And he said, Azalea, you seem to have a blind spot when it comes to your reads. all the women you attack seem to be culturally relevant attractive divisive and nice people divisive confused me it's he it confused him too because he used the wrong word okay cool cool cool he said i think this makes you jealous because you're so talented but everything about everything else about you is a failure just rap bro so he was defending his friend and he also like in in turn like he also then attacked back which i think was his first mistake because like he awoke the beast of azalea and she then went on to like berate him and that's why the tweet you just read he was like listen i didn't want i never mind yeah no he he regrets having started with her because she ate him alive she ate him up yeah there are so many tweets she talks about his fiance gabriette he said the bitch looks like frankenstein to me you both look like you share needles lmao um then she also went in she went she did a whole dissertation on his teeth and like gingivitis and dental health um and then she also threatened to sue healy and leaked dms in which she apologized to her she concluded by attacking the mattie healy for quote getting fined four million dollars for kissing a man on stage in malaysia doing a nazi salute watching violent porn being a heroin addict writing shitty songs randomly attacking black women and capping for trash white bitches who's that is that lying for trash white bitches capping is lying yes it is oh okay like no cap i'm not lying oh but he was capping he was capping i don't know what all of this is referring to all i know is like if i ever end up in a place where azalia banks is ever talking about me on her social media like actually take me out back and shoot me I couldn't handle it.

22:48I love you. I respect you. I bow down. Please never. May this type of beef never find me. Yeah, it's so, it's so true. So he's excluding himself from this narrative, one in which he actually started. But at the end of the day, like, I can't fault him for just wanting to defend his friend. Like, this is his friend's fiance. I'm sure they know each other really well, him and Charlie. His mistake was also, like, retaliating and trying to, like, you know, take digs at Azalea, calling her like not relevant and you know yeah beautiful women yeah so that was a mistake maybe she wouldn't have like came for him so hard if he just was defending his friend he was just like i think charlie x is a beautiful women woman never look women never looks better right right like it's and anyone who falls in the hair crosshairs of azalea banks like has my utmost sympathy maddie healy is not like a sim like a sympathetic person i i just like i i have a hard time feeling bad for him so just like sorry yeah like sry that sucks i don't know if azalea and lurd are going to be exchanging pleasantries like even though technically the enemy of my enemy is my friend yeah there's a lot of politics at play here yeah so that was a lot yeah azalea binks is really interesting to me yeah and she I feel as though she speaks the truth a lot like she has been at the center of a lot of I mean Elon and Grimes like that was literally her she was the one like living with them right yeah um so and I feel like even though she isn't really like not to sound like Maddie Haley she's not like super relevant in terms of like music making I feel like she gets like into rooms that other people aren't in and then she like literally blows up the room Yeah.

24:32She's so interesting to me. She's an interesting cat. I wonder why nobody has done like a full feature on Azalea Banks. Like she actually moves the needle culturally. Yeah. Maybe that's coming. Maybe after Aaron Rodgers. Like a paper magazine type or interview mag. You know like those sort of artsy ones. Yeah. I mean maybe they have. But are you reading interview mag? No. But there would be big headlines. And especially because they always have other celebrities do it. It would be like Azalea Banks by Grimes. Right. And she's so quotable. She is. no her reads are like seriously maddie healy kong is dentist they're expert level reads like seriously they're very eloquent they're not the typical like yet ugly no she they're deep cuts she seriously it's an art the way she does it it's quite beautiful when it's not you yeah agreed and may please god may it never be me well our next story speaking of the lured universe the the lurediverse actually i guess now lured and turd we're getting very close perfect but Amy Adams is reacting to a petition that would cast her as Taylor Swift's publicist in a biopic so if the Swifties have anything to say about it Amy Adams might just have her next role lined up after a fan theorized that Amy would win an Oscar for her portrayal of Taylor Swift's publicist Tree Payne in a potential biopic the six-time Academy Award nominee reacted to a petition for the fantasy casting she said on the Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon she said that would be amazing that would be so fun I mean if it got closer if it got me closer to Taylor then that would be fun lol um that's really funny because Tree Pain is like a you know famous redhead and so when you think of like who would play you in a film there's only a handful of people Isla Fisher and Amy Adams and Jessica Chastain um but I guess the Swifties have chosen Amy Adams I have no problem with this yeah I've never really like looked at a lot of pics of tree pain i didn't even realize like she's beautiful she's a redhead she's also like a tall slender she looks like a model like she's gorgeous yeah when she is in these rooms i bet some people think she's famous like that's how pretty she is how did her learn how did they meet you know what i actually don't know but there is a there is a point in taylor's career where where tree pain enters and everything changes like there was such a a shift in and tree is really responsible for the whole you know easter egg universe the mystery like that's all teller nation yeah like that's all tree so i actually would love a movie or like some sort of documentary it couldn't happen now it would need to happen like in 100 years yeah um but it is really interesting like she's very smart and she doesn't have other clients like she's not a publicist even the the biggest celebrities they all share a couple of the same publicists tree pain exclusively works for taylor i would love to know how much she gets paid it's at least a million dollars a year Like she doesn't do any other work.

27:18Like tree is for Taylor and that's it. Yeah. Which is very uncommon for a publicist. Yeah. You get paid monthly by like a bunch of different people. Right. I think she makes a lot more than that. You think she makes more than a million dollars a year? 100%. How much do you think? Five? Ten? Ten. Because she's obviously a publicist. She handles all of Taylor's like media relations. But she's also like an advisor to Taylor. I think Taylor like trusts her strategy. How much would you pay a C-suite executive? right right of a billion dollar corporation yeah it's actually so true you pay them like 60 million dollars a year yeah i would love to know or is it like a typical publicist retainer hell no no but maybe like you know you get paid per month that's what how publicists work and uh a celebrity most celebrity publicists i feel like are between like eight and ten twelve thousand dollars a month maybe trees getting 100k a month oh sure i don't know what the payout the start like what her billing cycle looks like right if she's on salary yeah or if she's a contractor do you like do you think she has health insurance with taylor like things like that great question no i'm sure she has her own company with like staff that like yeah i don't know this is what the biopic would dig into what sort of what's the health insurance policy and i love that amy adams is game yeah cute maybe one day that is how things start sometimes like as i can turn that joke but i wouldn't find it like I would find it hard to believe if they released it now like and also I feel like no one's writing up tree paints like she would have to write a memoir or something like memoirs of a tree oh my god I would love that right and then that could be adapted I just don't think like someone's gonna go start like shadowing tree that's not gonna happen I would also love to know what tree's career was like prior to working with Taylor like how do you even get on the desk of Taylor Swift as like maybe she was working for a publicist firm um on Taylor's account and then when in-house.

29:12She has been the exclusive publicist of Taylor Swift since 2014. She went to the University of Southern California and she was a Pi Beta Phi sorority. So she began her career as an intern. Oh, I guess she worked all in music. She worked at a British label. Then she worked as a marketing manager at a different label and then an executive assistant at A &R and then, yeah. What was her last job before? In 1995, she joined Interscope Records as a West Coast marketing and artist development rep. She worked with No Doubt, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, etc. Then she left to start her own street marketing company, retaining Bonnie Raitt as her first ever client, the country star.

29:52Like, she's like an old school country swirly, Bonnie Raitt. She has big red hair. Do you know her? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Over the years, her client roster grew to include labels like Warner Records, Capitol Records, oh wow, London Recordings, 143 Recordings. In 99, she merged her company with Immortal Records. and created IR Street Marketing. She then took a position at WME in Beverly Hills, where she met Gail Holcomb, the vice chairman of the ACMs. So then she began getting hired by the ACMs in 2002 to oversee media, radio, marketing, and the Academy. 2007, she joined Warner Music Nashville. Oh, okay, this was her last job.

30:31Okay. She joined Warner Music Nashville as VP for publicity. In 2013, she was promoted to senior vice president of publicity. She oversaw all publicity for Warner Music Group's country and Christian divisions. So it's a publicity. Then in 2014, Payne announced that she was leaving Warner Music, starting her own firm. Premium PR, her first and only client was Taylor Swift. The rest is her story. Oh, whose publicist, prior publicist, who she had worked with for seven years, Taylor's prior publicist was named Paula Eriksine. She resigned. So all good. Yeah. And the rest is her story. That is so interesting.

31:06Not to spoil the biopic or the memoir, but there you go. There you have it. So she's really like, she kind of reminds me a lot of Bose from Real Housewives, like really climbing the corporate ladder, became the VP of Warner Music, and that's where she met Taylor. She doesn't remind me of her at all, but. Why, she had like a million jobs at like high profile companies. Yeah. And she was probably like extremely well paid as the head of publicity. How old is she? Yeah, that's a good question. Look as old as her resume. She was, where's her birthday? 1971. Oh, but this is weird. Have you ever seen this?

31:43Tree Payne, born 1971 or 1972. I love that for her. Keep them guessing. So she's in her 40s. Are you just too available? Thank you. She's 53. Never mind. Oh, wow. Okay. She looks amazing. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Meghan and Harry. There's a lot of rumors swirling about Meghan and Harry. They've been at separate events and Harry is addressing the divorce rumors like sort of in New York City. But she was supporting Tyler Perry at an L.A. event this week and he was in New York. They haven't been they posted that video a while ago, but there's been a lot of like divorce rumors about them.

32:20There always is. I never take them seriously. Yeah, I don't. Not that this feels different. And I also feel like even if they are going to get divorced, like they won't. No, although I do want to say I do ship Megan and Tyler Perry. He was so there for her in her time of need. of his billion dollar homes. And I think that she would be really happy. But I agree. I happen to think that a lot of the divorce rumors are overblown. But of course, sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire. But even if there was like an issue in their marriage, I don't think it would be wise for their businesses, but also for their own psyche to ever really admit to the public that it didn't work out.

32:56No, no two people are more bound to each other than these two. Bound for life. uh so he uh dispelled divorce rumors uh while speaking in new york he said apparently we've bought or moved houses 10 12 times we've apparently divorced maybe 10 12 times as well so it's just like what he went on to say that he feels sorry for internet trolls who look for ways to tear down the pair he said it's hard don't be sorry we're having so much fun don't feel bad for us we might not have palaces and you know but we are having a good time having fun i don't know that they're that he's having fun I feel like she's having fun she's at an event that's super fun yeah no she's with her boyfriend Tyler Perry I don't think he's having fun getting tattoos with jelly roll um no he said it's hard to keep up with but that's why you just sort of ignore it their hopes are just built and built and it's like yes yes yes and then it doesn't happen so I feel sorry for them I genuinely do I just want to say I hope I do not want them to get divorced at all that would be the craziest thing not good i wouldn't want that i hope that they i hope that they're really happy together you know for everything that of course everything that they you know risked i hope it worked out i'm a i want a happy ending for these two and i also won her fucking cooking show is what i want i'm just i just wanted to make sure i didn't know if tyler perry was single but he it's apparently he's been single since 2020 interesting right around the time he met Megan literally she megsited it in 2020 and then she megsited right into his heart um yeah the thing is is we could project and you know guess all we want about these two but you're right in that they have far too much to lose business wise pride wise like a million not even bit cried they could never so who knows what the hell's going on inside that house yeah but they really like don't they're not together publicly like that much a lot they like are public figures and that's the job yeah you know public a lot period but you could always say like you never know what goes on inside people don't have to be together whatever because i do believe that but they're literally like a famous couple throughout history actually they are famous like they're famous for being a couple yeah so the long distances where we don't like see them together and they're not like do they used to be like side by side never without the other which also you know it's good to have space um but I don't know and I imagine like I imagine it's a hard time for them they're sort of finding their feet in this big new world that there was a time where yes they were like a famous couple and they were spot but I think their life has changed so much and they've actually set it up intentionally that they're not photographed as much as they once were like every outing when they were royals was like an official outing so there was like a million pictures of them I think they have kind of designed their life to have like less public appearances but you're right in the sense that like the last couple of times we've seen both of them it has been individually yeah I do I do see what you're saying about her and Tyler Perry and I know there's chemistry there for sure and you're always like you're always gonna like feel warm towards the person who rescued you it's kind of like the damsel in distress trope 100 okay keeping an eye out something to think about for sure are you ready for our next story yes oh no sorry oh my god oh oh my god am i like seriously i'm not okay is it our next story that's brought to you by state farm it is today's episode of the toast is supported by state farm we know the toasters agree nothing feels better than a personal win like when you get your final piece of furniture delivered, you hit a new personal record in a workout, whatever you define as a personal win.

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