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Podcast Notes: The Toast - Episode: Sunglasses On: Monday, January 20th, 2026
Episode Overview In this episode of *The Toast*, hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry delve into a variety of celebrity news and discussions, highlighting the most buzzworthy topics of the week, including family drama, celebrity splits, and reality TV controversies.
Main Topics Discussed
- Brooklyn Beckham's Statement about David and Victoria Beckham (19:24)
- Brooklyn Beckham publicly criticizes his parents, claiming they have controlled media narratives about their family and that he does not wish to reconcile with them.
- The hosts analyze his eight-page statement and express skepticism about its motivations and honesty.
- Claudia and Jackie draw parallels to the Sussexes, emphasizing how family disputes can be exposed to the public.
- Meghan Markle's 'With Love, Meghan' Won't Return for a Third Season on Netflix (43:41)
- Discussion on the cancellation of Meghan Markle's show, with the hosts reflecting on its lack of success compared to previous projects.
- They note the absence of real value in the content, leading to low viewership and ultimately, cancellation.
- Amanda Batula and Kyle Cooke Split After Four Years of Marriage (53:58)
- The hosts discuss the breakup of the *Summer House* stars, reflecting on their tumultuous relationship.
- They question what led to the split, given the couple's public declarations of love during past seasons.
- Oscars Glambot Director Faces Backlash (1:01:57)
- Discussion surrounding a leaked exchange between the Glambot director and a potential client, revealing a rude and condescending attitude.
- The directors' comments on pricing and the assumptions made about the client's financial capability raise concerns about potential racism.
- 'The Traitors': Michael Rapaport's Controversial Remarks (1:10:48)
- A recap of the latest episode of *The Traitors*, focusing on the fallout from Michael Rapaport's remarks directed at Colton Underwood.
- The hosts dive into the dynamics of the game, discussing gameplay strategies and how social perceptions can affect the game.
Key Takeaways
- Brooklyn Beckham's Statement: The hosts critique his narrative as self-serving and reflect on how family disputes can lead to public drama akin to that of Harry and Meghan.
- Meghan Markle's Show: The cancellation is viewed as a reflection of its failure to resonate with audiences, lacking the entertainment or educational value expected from such platforms.
- Amanda and Kyle's Split: Their breakup prompts discussions about reality TV relationships and the pressures faced by couples in the public eye.
- GlamBot Controversy: The exchange highlights issues of professionalism in the entertainment industry and raises questions about societal biases and assumptions.
- Michael Rapaport on *The Traitors*: The incident underscores the complexities of cancel culture and the difficulty of navigating public perception within competitive environments.
Noteworthy Quotes
- “It feels like everyone is tuning in today for different reasons... this is a long time coming.”
- “It's a shame because Colton has overplayed his hand at this point...”
- “This is just interpersonal family drama, it’s horrible, but planning a wedding can reveal the worst in people.”
Closing Remarks The hosts encourage listeners to engage with the content and share their thoughts, emphasizing the importance of considering multiple perspectives on the discussed issues. They conclude by teasing the next episode and thanking the audience for tuning in.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Importance of Brooklyn's Statement
0:45 to 2:46
Discussing the significance of Brooklyn's lengthy statement and its context.
“like everybody's tuning in today for different reasons like of course brooklyn's eight page statement like needs to be dissected and i can't be i can't be rushed through that like he took his time with the statement.”
Weekend Recap and Personal Updates
2:46 to 6:19
Sharing personal reflections and experiences from the weekend, including health issues.
“Well, I just want to give a shout out to Ralph.”
Mahjong and Movie Conversations
6:19 to 8:18
Discussing their recent Mahjong games and experiences related to kids' movie outings.
“And like I was going to go to the beach today.”
The Disruption of Nail Products
8:18 to 13:00
Critique of traditional nail products and the rise of Dazzle Dry in the beauty industry.
“I got to tell you, I bet it's expired now.”
Health Checkups and Doctor Visits
13:00 to 14:01
Discussing postpartum checkups and the pressures related to health care.
“A couple of products I haven't heard of, like some noise, what are they, earplugs?”
Body Image and Postpartum Reflections
14:01 to 14:56
Discussing the pressure of body image post-pregnancy and experiences with doctors.
“Yeah, I remember at my six-week, not to make your thing about me, I was told that I was obese.”
Brooklyn Beckham's Family Drama
19:21 to 22:32
Analyzing Brooklyn Beckham's statements against his parents and the media's role.
“Our first story, Brooklyn Beckham launches an astonishing attack on his parents, David and Victoria Beckham, in bombshell statements on Instagram saying that he does not want to reconcile.”
Wedding Planning and Family Conflicts
22:33 to 25:05
Exploring the complexities of wedding planning within a famous family.
“We had heard about this Mark Anthony thing.”
Prenups and Family Business
25:06 to 28:02
Discussing prenups and business implications in high-profile relationships.
“Weeks before our big day, my parents repeatedly pressured and attempted to bribe me into signing away the rights to my name, which would have affected me, my wife and our future children.”
Wedding Planning and Family Dynamics
28:02 to 29:13
Explore the challenges and awkwardness of wedding planning within wealthy families.
“Like where wealthy parents want their kids, spouses to sign prenups.”
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The Clash of Personalities
29:14 to 30:26
Discuss the tensions between Nicola Peltz and Victoria Beckham during the wedding process.
“And they're still holding onto all the wedding Mishigas.”
Mother-Son Dance Controversy
30:27 to 32:27
Examine the incident involving Brooklyn's mother dancing with him at his wedding and the implications it had.
“That they blocked him last summer and he blocked them now.”
Public Statements and Family Drama
32:28 to 34:37
Analyze Brooklyn's public statements about his family and the resulting fallout.
“Now a video of Victoria dancing with her father has resurfaced.”
Accusations and Allegations
34:38 to 39:34
Delve into the accusations made by Brooklyn against his family and their responses to his claims.
“Unless your family is a ring of pedophiles or criminals.”
The Pursuit of Privacy
39:35 to 42:00
Reflect on Brooklyn and Nicola's desire for privacy amid public scrutiny and their family issues.
“I grew up with overwhelming anxiety for the first time in my life since stepping away from my family.”
Family Drama & Victimhood
42:00 to 43:34
A discussion on the implications of family dynamics and personal accountability in public scenarios.
“You were responsible as a grown man for your own actions.”
Meghan Markle's Show Cancellation
43:34 to 45:53
An analysis of Meghan Markle's show cancellation and the public's reaction to her projects.
“So I'm glad that they've all found each other in this mean, cold world.”
Assessing Meghan's Projects
45:53 to 47:44
A breakdown of Meghan Markle's various projects and their successes and failures.
“multiple sources have told page six after the Duchess called the show quote a lot of work one insider said it's not she said that?”
Post-Royalty Challenges
47:44 to 49:09
Exploring the difficulties faced by Meghan and Harry after leaving royal life.
“Masaka Kids, A Rhythm Within, which is a documentary short.”
Amanda and Kyle's Split
54:03 to 56:00
Discussing the breakup of Amanda and Kyle from Summer House and its implications.
“Yeah, that like so many seasons of like they have a it seems like not a flourishing relationship, but they're then at the reunion.”
Analyzing a Celebrity Divorce
56:00 to 57:00
A discussion on the implications of a recent celebrity divorce and public perception.
“It's like, thank God they didn't have kids.”
Reality TV and Marriage Insights
57:00 to 58:50
Exploring how reality TV influences the public's understanding of celebrity marriages and breakups.
“To me, it's completely like comparable to Tom and Katie.”
The Future of Summer House
58:50 to 1:01:40
Discussion on the potential impacts of a breakup on the cast dynamics of Summer House.
“Well, because I don't know if that would have been the case if she didn't end up getting pregnant and like literally new life, who dis?”
The GlamBot Controversy
1:01:40 to 1:08:40
Insights into the recent controversies surrounding the GlamBot director and celebrity interactions.
“But yeah, they finished filming the city right before BravoCon and they came in like literally right off set and they were like, oh, it's crazy.”
Assessing the Value of GlamBot Services
1:08:40 to 1:10:01
Discussion on the pricing and perceived value of GlamBot services for events.
“So he was acting like this before he really popped off.”
Celebrity Glam Bot Critique
1:10:01 to 1:11:01
Discussing the ethics and evolution of celebrity glam bot videos.
“And like the one that's like 360 where everyone's like, damn.”
Trader's Recap Introduction
1:11:02 to 1:11:54
Introduction to the discussion on Traders and recent episodes.
Colton Underwood's Controversy
1:11:55 to 1:14:32
Analyzing the controversies surrounding Colton Underwood on Traders.
“And I think he wants to like glaze over his time on reality TV because like it is murky, you know, questionable.”
The Accusations and Backlash
1:14:33 to 1:17:48
A deep dive into the accusations made against Colton and their implications.
“There were like harassing text messages.”
Michael Rappaport's Controversial Comments
1:17:49 to 1:19:58
Exploring Michael Rappaport's comments and the reactions they provoked.
“Because I held in a secret for 29 years that I'm gay, that I would be a good traitor.”
Group Dynamics and the Vote
1:19:59 to 1:22:17
Examining the group dynamics leading to the vote against Michael.
“And so when he's sitting there like so victim.”
Analyzing Character Dynamics in 'Traitors'
1:24:00 to 1:25:10
Explore the complex relationships and strategies among contestants in 'Traitors'.
“And that I just think is the flaw in this show.”
The Impact of Personality Types on Game Outcomes
1:25:10 to 1:26:30
Discuss how different personality types affect gameplay and viewer experience.
Confusing Voting Strategies in 'Traitors'
1:26:30 to 1:27:25
Delve into the perplexing voting decisions and strategies of contestants.
“You don't vote for the third party that has no chance.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy oh that's right confusing because we got so much fucking shit to do today we had to push dear toaster sorry to the dtq don't want to be rushed today's episode feels different it feels like we are on the precipice of something huge why okay and i feel like everybody's tuning in today for different reasons like of course brooklyn's eight page statement like needs to be dissected and i can't be i can't be rushed through that like he took his time with the statement. It's only right that we take time. And also it's been a long time coming. Like years of speculation.
0:56We've talked about this story over and over again. And like now we have concrete answers. Like today would have been a big day like for any one of these things. First of all, we need to talk about like just our weekends. Like we are important people. Like we played Mahjong. Right. We played Mahjong twice since you last saw us. Correct. So like we are important people. The traitors. I have so much to say about the traitors and actually I know I said that I was going to try and bring like my sunglass Robbie Hoffman energy. to this episode, like to this show this year, like without having to wear my sunglasses.
1:26I have so many things to say today that I feel like I'm going to get canceled for that I might just like be wearing my sunglasses the entire time. I agree. And my feelings on Traders, like haven't changed since I watched it a few days ago. So I feel prepared to share. I have to share my unpopular opinions on Traders. I have to share my unpopular, extremely biased opinions on Brooklyn and Nicola. I have to share my extremely, kind of like years in the making hot take about the guy who runs the glam bot. And now I'm like so excited that he's in the news. What else are we discussing today? Kyle and Amanda.
1:56Kyle and Amanda. Kyle and Amanda. And for some reason, like when Kyle and Amanda got divorced, so many people thought of us, which I'm not sure whether to be flattered or offended. I thought of us too. Well, of course, like if I have two enemies. Not to make it about us. Of course not. I have two enemies like on this earth. And of course, Kyle Cook, the low life is one of them. So, you know, a bad day for Kyle is a good day for coaches. Welcome to Coach Erner's Corner. I do have like mixed feelings on Amanda because like she's my up until recently like was my greatest enemy's partner like so I don't really know how to feel about her now she may be the enemy of your enemy air correct I'm looking forward to the DM your friend so I just have like a lot of feelings a lot of unpopular opinions and I feel like I might need my glasses even though I got new glasses yeah oh we also went shopping she has a tortoiseshell glass yeah I have a tortoiseshell glass are from Ralph Lauren okay so I had no two you're not a tortoiseshell glass sort of girl that's not true This is my second pair that I have in my purse right now.
2:48What are the others? Versace. Oh, Versace. Well, I just want to give a shout out to Ralph. Because this is now the second time where I've done a big purchase at Ralph. It's such an underrated store. And I realized that both times. Ralph Lauren. She's not at the ice cream shop. Ralph Lauren or Ralph Lauren? I say Ralph Lauren. The last time I did a haul at Ralph Lauren was over the summer in the Hamptons when we were shopping. In Southampton. and then over the weekend we took a trip to palm beach and we went walking around worth avenue like the fanciest and like honestly it was kind of discouraging like walking into those stores so i just want to give to shout out to ralph for like always being at those fancy stores and of course it's still expensive but it's a much more um palatable price range i think and so that's why i have now found myself like buying stuff twice at ralph loran just because it was like cheaper than the other stores and i love everything that i get yeah it's also just cute these sunglasses $130.
3:41Love them. Which is like a lot for sunglasses. I think you've never worn a tortoise shell on the show before. Oh, on the show. No, I haven't. So I do feel like, oh, you're taking them off. Well, I don't have anything scary to say yet. Okay. I feel like, yeah, I feel like my opinions are like, I kind of have the craziest thing to say, like when it comes to traders. So like, we'll get there. Okay, I'm really excited for traders. Me too. It was so good. It was really fun to watch and I have a lot of strong feelings. So that's always my favorite. We'll recap it, fifth and final story at the end. And let's chat about our weekend.
4:08Yeah. Before we get into the stories, let's talk. We had such a great weekend. We had a long weekend, a strong weekend. We did have a great weekend, although I will say I had three like sort of medical episodes this weekend, which sort of like soured the great weekend. At first I had my blood sugar low. I had a blood sugar like crash when we were in Palm Beach. So like I was kind of in medical distress for about 30 minutes. That was really scary. And then I got hit with a one hour migraine the next day. and then um last night just sort of like an episode um with my stomach and then this morning I got my period so like I'm just not feeling like 100 percent you know well I think the last thing that you said the other ones I'm sorry like a 30 minute episode a one hour migraine like fabulous Jackie when it comes to migraines but what you've just shared with us your truth cojourner's truth and what's funny is like the thing about periods is like at least when they're like the way they're supposed to be it's like I just want you to know if you hadn't said it I wouldn't have known.
5:05Thank you. Maybe it's because of all the news and like there's so many distractions, but it's not written all over your face. Like it's not oozing out of you in a metaphorical sense. But in a medical sense, it is. Yes. So I want you to know you're putting on a brave face. We would have, and you're wearing white. Yeah. Which really throws us off. The funny thing about periods. Not 50 shades of red. The funny thing is like, you know, when they're done right, they're supposed to be like really predictable, right? Like you're supposed to know. but let me tell you there isn't a time that I don't get my period and I'm like what what is this like when I tell you I could have like seen a rat on the toilet paper and I would have been less shocked like it is why is it so shocking I know what happens every month it's been happening every month and you're regular again I'm right on schedule I have like a 30 31 day cycle I'm to stay 30 like it could not have been more timely and when I tell you I've never and more shocked, surprised in my life.
5:58Like, what do you mean? Yeah. Especially after you have such long hiatus. Of course. You sort of like forget that this is a part of your journey. Your womanly wile. And it can be staggering. The cost of a boot is staggering. You guys, my jaw hit the floor. Okay. It was shocking. I'm sorry that you're going through it. I know how much it takes from you. And like I was going to go to the beach today. Like it's just. I don't think we're going to the beach today by the way. Oh. It's like cold. Oh you're not like a water sign. So that's kind of stuff bothers you. It's just like it doesn't scream beach.
6:37We'll chat. We'll chat later. I do want to say that I feel like in the past whenever I've seen like people from New York or Florida like wearing puffer coats when it turns like under 70 degrees and like these people are so dramatic they could never. But I do feel like your body just sort of adjusts. like it is a little it's like 66 degrees today and like I put my heated steering wheel on I used to think it was like a person thing but I do think like when you just move to a warmer weather like you become a weaker individual it's just all relative yeah like 66 is your 30 right whereas like if it was 66 degrees in your feet I'd be sweating my ass off yeah and I'd be complaining like I hate this fucking weather yeah so it's a it's a situation it's situational well I didn't wear a pub or it's gonna it's gonna warm up but I don't think warm enough for the beach we played a ton of mahjong since we've seen you guys last we're getting really good yeah that like i said like my new year's resolution is to get good and i feel like i feel like i'm getting good i'm also playing with people who are like worse than me so it's hard to it's like it's a good practice but i need to start playing with like an elite crew you know yeah well we've got some games lined up we do have games lined up and it's just like so i love activities where you just sit and like actually don't move but you're still being stimulated yeah um and that's that is mahjong it's definitely for us because ben was like why did you have such a good time when you played on Wednesday.
7:52And I was like, because we literally sat, we did not move. And I didn't even realize, first of all, we played for three hours. And like I had snacks, I had great conversation, I had stimulating gameplay. And it's, but I also never moved. So everything kind of came to me. And that's my favorite. My favorite type of game. Yeah. What else did we do this weekend? Oh, the kids saw a new movie yesterday at the movie theater. Not mine. We don't do screen time. So I didn't go. They saw David. You know, Zach's always dying to go to the movies. Did he use his? His pass? Oh, I don't know. I got to tell you, I bet it's expired now.
8:23But they said it was amazing. Well, last Secret Santa, I got one of the most thoughtful, amazing gifts. And it was for your husband because he loves going to the movies. So I got him the AMC annual pass where you get one ticket a month. You get 50 % off a companion ticket. You get 50 % off concessions. And I had a feeling. Wasn't it a one-year thing, though? Yeah, but one every month. Okay, but the year is over. And I don't know if there was rollover. I feel like we've had this conversation. and if there was rollover to be had like my husband would be using it and he would have 12 tickets and he literally took 12 people including all the kids the movies yesterday so yeah interesting and you can confirm that during the year-long period that this subscription was active he did not go to the movies once we definitely went maybe once do you think he used it i think he used it like once but you bought it for him in like the year of no movies for like now the kids are at an age where like if there's something good out like it could be a special thing to go to the movies and he might use it more now but all is to say they had a great time at the movies yesterday they olivia and zach said the movie was amazing i actually want to see it it's about king david that's my king right there you know right that's my king right there i've heard really good things so that's always nice to see they said the music wasn't amazing they said it was like greatest showman you know i'm sorry that's that's big words no that's big like praise yeah no like if you're saying it's like the music is like greatest showman level like this is the greatest movie of all time.
9:48I actually want to go see it. With the exception of that one scene. The bearded lady and her friends acting. No but that scene is really good. I'm sorry you know what scene like is kind of boring to me. Let me think let me think. Musical scene. Don't say rewrite the stars. Rewrite the stars. I do feel like that's an original thought. It doesn't bother me but it's not my favorite by any means. Yeah there are a couple scenes with like charity you know. Charity So over her Cancel Charity Charity is over party Charity Barnum Yeah I can't like Yeah You know how I feel about Charity And of course Jenny Lind And like I know I keep criticizing the movie Oh we're so on different pages I know I keep criticizing the movie But it's important to remember It is the best movie made ever Yeah but Nothing is a mean to my criticism I just want to say Yeah no Greatness is not without Nothing's perfect I forgot to tell you something You're being talked about on the talk what did I do so I saw this like viral video and it was like about you know three products disrupting their respective industries I know you're gonna my wipes my pets three products disrupting their respective industry camera counselor no and one of them was dazzle dry and this video went like mega viral just people talking about like and the girl was like you know and shout out because I've been hearing about dazzle dry four years from Jackie O and I was like okay not Jackie O mentioned Jackie O mentioned and the video wasn't it wasn't like about you no no no but like i'm disrupting the industry it i'm part of the disruption um you are a factor in the disruption yeah that is so exciting that i'm being that i've talked about in a positive way correct as if you could talk about jackie i want any other i wish i had stock in the daz yeah you really were like very much ahead of your time with the daz yeah did i talk on this podcast how i got a regular manicure by accident like like essie no it's insane that essie and opi like aren't in financial ruin.
11:39What a piece of shit product. Like regular manicures. And I made a TikTok about this and like there was a lot of discourse because like I haven't gotten a regular age old manicure. I can't even remember. But at least OPI now does gel. Right. I used to be like a gelaholic. And then when I got pregnant, Jackie turned me on to dazzle. And I actually liked it so much. I didn't need to go back. And I can't believe there are people out here paying. And let me tell you it was$21. It's not like, oh, when we were kids, it was a$7 manicure. You know, maybe three, four, five extra for tip. $21 for a manicure that literally shipped before I left the place.
12:08Like, it was insane. First of all, drying is archaic. And maybe I've been out of the game for so long because I don't dry. Dazzle, you just sit there for, they say, five minutes and then you can go. I put my hands under. I'm like, ma 'am, it's not on. And she was like, it's a light. It's not a fan. Okay, I'm sorry. There was no way that it was drying. Even when it's a fan, there's nothing on. And they have their little fans at their desks. Like, can I have a little fan, please? You got to use your stroller fan. Getting an OG manicure is seriously not worth the price of admission. It was so, I get a manicure every week at home with my best friend Margo and she always gets regular polish.
12:41She's just like weird like that. That's why she's going every week. And I tried to put her on to Dazzle and she like wasn't dazzled by it. And I can't believe like that's the shit she's paying for. It's such crap. Like. I don't remember when this manicure is from. It's from Dazzle. It is more than 10 days old. Look at it. Dazzle is dazzling. These are gold. Exactly. What else is disrupting the industry? A couple of products I haven't heard of, like some noise, what are they, earplugs? Okay. And then, I don't know, I can't lie, like after I heard Jackie, I was like so excited, I like left a comment and then I stopped watching.
13:11Like, I was like, not Jackie O visibility. Okay. Jackie O visibility, so important. Well, I guess we could get into the stories. I actually have a big day today. I'm doing something today that I need to do that I haven't done yet that I'm like a little delayed. Oh, is it a postpartum checkup? My postpartum checkup, my six-week checkup, I'm doing it at 10 weeks. I just couldn't be bothered. Like towards the end of my pregnancy, I was going to the doctor two to three times a week. Like I'm not running back to the doctor. Give me my peace. The thing is like if there was something going on, like you would know.
13:39No. And also it's like you want the clear to be able to like take a bath, you know. Oh, that is why I went to the doctor. Roll around in the sack. I went at five out of five and a half weeks because I was like, can I take a bath, take a bath, work out? And it's like, I'm not. Well, it'd be nice to take a bath, but that's not like time. It's like I'm not ready to do those things. So it's like I'm not in any rush, but I'm not in any rush to get weighed. Yeah, that too. Yeah, I remember at my six-week, not to make your thing about me, I was told that I was obese. And I just feel like we need to cancel doctors for that.
14:08Not by Dr. Fox, of course. Like, unless you have a breastfeeding safe GLP-1 for me at my six-week appointment. We have nothing to discuss. We have nothing to discuss. Although I was curious. Like, I never, like, really look at my scar. I'm like, it could be oozing pus. And I wouldn't know just because, like. Oh, yeah, you got to check the scar. It freaks me out, like, to look at it. it's so like thin and like so it was important for me to like just make sure it wasn't like infected or anything like maggots coming out of it and maggots you tested negative you only found one and he said it's a really beautiful small cute like skinny little maggot so you don't need to come were you maggot aladin i know i was actually maggot aladin i'm sorry it's okay these things happen are you ready for the stories i will i actually for the first time in my life not for the first time.
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20:05Bella Thorne once said that about her. And I was actually chatting with someone like who would know. And I was like, you know, I also heard she's like the nastiest bitch alive. And they were like, yeah, allegedly. So that's just what I've heard. So that's my bias. I think I also think it's important to mention. As a boy mom. I'm sick over this. This is sickening to me. As a boy mom, I find it sickening. And also somebody who would love to like, you know, lay with David Beckham. That is also a bias of mine. Okay. Yeah. And I think like we know David and Victoria better than we know Brooklyn. Just because they've given us more of them over the years.
20:37They've been famous longer. They both do documentaries. You feel like you have a sense of them as a person. You can't know someone completely, but they seem like just like good, decent people who love their children and their family. They have a big family. They obviously care about family. The rest of the family's intact. Like it's not like they're this broken home. Right. Yeah. That's just the information we're going in. Yes. Anyways, Brooklyn took to his Instagram stories. I'm not going to read all of it, but I will read the highlights. He said, I've been silent for years and made every effort to keep these matters private.
21:04Unfortunately, my parents and the team have continued to go to the press, leaving me with no choice but to speak for myself and tell the truth about only some of the lies that have been printed. I do not want to reconcile with my family. I'm not being controlled. I'm standing up for myself for the first time in my life. For my entire life, my parents have controlled narratives in the press about our family. Well, like I would hope that they would endeavor to do that. So I this is one of my biggest pet peeves. I feel like it happens a lot with Taylor Swift, where like a criticism of a person or a thing is like, well, they're so meticulous about their image.
21:32All they care about is like, you know, they're very, you know, like they have publicists and teams where it's like, that's such a normal human thing. Like, and if you were at that level, you would do too. Like, we care on a small level, like what people, you know, in your close personal friendship, think about you. Like, it's okay to care. That's such an invalid criticism, especially when you've been as famous as they are for as long as they are. And then their kids become famous. I hate that too. No. And like, you would want to have some control over the narrative about your family that's out there in the world because you want to protect your family.
21:57Like, I don't think there's really anything negative about that. No, especially when you think about like how they went through like major media tabloid drama. So they know they've been on the other side of it. Back to Brooklyn quote, the performative social media posts, family events and inauthentic relationships have been a fixture of the life I was born into. Recently, I have seen with my own eyes, the links that they'll go to to place countless lies in the media, mostly at the expense of innocent people to preserve their own facade. But I believe the truth always comes out. Back to me now.
22:24This reminds me so much of Harry and Meghan, the way that they're talking, the way that they're talking about the family, like the entity, the lies, the media. And don't forget that Brooklyn and Nicola had dinner with Harry and Meghan. Oh yeah, four losers. Yes. And also, I find it so interesting that the media plays such a big part in why Brooklyn hates his family because one of my takeaways, and I saw people on Twitter pointing this out too, is a lot of the examples that he continued talking about the wedding is stuff that was low-key leaked. We had heard about this Mark Anthony thing. there was a thing on Dumois.
22:55So it kind of makes it look like they're the ones planning stories because like all their gripes, there was nothing in here. Like his spin on it was shocking, but there was nothing in here that felt brand new. Two things. The Marc Anthony story that we all heard from Dumois years ago did not put Victoria in a favorable light. So why would that come from the Beckham camp? Right. The other thing, he keeps saying they put lies in the media. We've been talking about this story for years and nothing about it is concrete. We always end with, we'll never know. nobody put anything firm out there and if they did it was unsuccessful well bricklin and nicola did because now a lot of people are rereading their vogue wedding piece where they talked all about the planning yada yada and there's a lot of inconsistencies especially when it comes to her talking about the design process with valentino for her dress um and him now you know alleging that and then valentino just passes right and bricklin alleges that victoria actually was supposed to be making the dress for him and for her.
23:51And at the 11th hour, she pulled out, yada, yada. Whereas in the Vogue article, it was a years long process. We went to Milan. They came to L.A. So actually, the only proof that someone is lying in the media is that Vogue article, because half of it doesn't align with this statement. Then my parents have been trying endlessly to ruin my relationship since before my wedding, and it hasn't stopped. My mom canceled making Nicola's dress in the 11th hour, despite how excited she was to wear her design, forcing her to urgently find a new dress. So custom Valentino isn't like an urgent need. Correct.
24:22And in the Vogue article, they said it took over a year and there were six fittings like over the course of that time, all over the world. So someone's lying. And if they wanted to end the relationship the whole time, why would she initially make the dress, like do all the things only to pull out? Like, I think she's busier than all of that. Right. I heard theories, people thinking that like, you know, maybe Victoria was making a dress and then, you know. Maybe Nicola didn't like it. Or, you know, Nicola had like, you know, reached out to have other designers make her other dresses. And like, you know, Victoria felt some type of way about like being one of several.
24:54I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I just think that's a bad idea, period. Even if you have like a copacetic relationship, don't have the mother-in-law make the bride's dress. Agreed. Feels like a good rule of thumb. Yeah. Weeks before, unless she's Vera Wang, okay? Yeah. Weeks before our big day, my parents repeatedly pressured and attempted to bribe me into signing away the rights to my name, which would have affected me, my wife and our future children. They were adamant on me signing before my wedding date because then the terms of the deal would be initiated. OK, the word you're looking for is prenup.
25:23Thank you. That's signing away the rights to his name. Well, like so this is I feel like a real manipulation of language because and this is so Sussex. You're right. Like the last name, the kids. I feel like this is where two people are saying the same thing in different languages. Like, I think if you were asking Victoria and David, like what they what he's referring to, it's like, well, we asked him to sign a prenup. And yes, like the name Beckham, which does not belong really to Brooklyn. It belongs to his parents. Is this billion dollar company, Victoria Beckham. So what if Nicola wanted to start a makeup line called Nicola Beckham?
25:58Like, I think it was more so about business. And you know what? Like, it's not romantic for sure. But this is what is involved when you're at this level of wealth and fame and you are merging. And let's not forget, Nicola's not some pauper. Okay, she's richer. Yeah, more money than them. Billionaires. And I've heard that, by the way, her family is amazing. Like wonderful people. That's what I've heard. So I feel like this is like, you know, really how someone can see a situation so differently than the others. I think if we were to like hear from a lawyer, it would be like really kind of standard stuff.
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26:29You're signing away your name. It's your family's name. It's not just yours. It means something bigger, especially in like the business landscape. So I'm actually not with Brooklyn on this one. Yeah, I think that's a good way to explain it because the way that he said it makes no sense. Your parents aren't asking you to sign away your name as they walk you down the aisle like they love you. It's clearly just legalese. I know. And like I could see people like thinking that this is so, you know. I haven't seen anyone thinking this is so. This is just like what high profile people. You have to protect your assets.
26:59Yes, it would be nice to believe that this is a marriage that's going to last 100 years. More often than not, it doesn't. And you're a dumbass if you don't, like, protect your assets. You protect your name. You could go. Let's say they get divorced and she was Nicola Beckham. And, you know, she's not a part of the family. And she's going on starting businesses, Nicola Beckham. And she would be well within her legal right. I don't think this is crazy. My holdout affected the payday. And they have never treated me the same since. Well, it also sounds like. Sounds like his inheritance. No, or there was like a deal that they were going to do with like the whole family.
27:30They needed his name and he didn't sign it. And so it affected the payday. What payday? What deal do they need Brooklyn for? Have you ever read Brooklyn's photography book? You know that they don't need Brooklyn for any deal. Okay. I like this picture. It's out of focus, but you could tell there's a lot going on. The great Brooklyn Beckham. Just say like there was a family deal on the table and he wouldn't sign his name away for the deal. Like maybe someone wanted the rights to all of their names. Maybe something like that. I don't know. I don't even think. I just feel like there was a prenup.
28:01His parents. This happens a lot. Like where wealthy parents want their kids, spouses to sign prenups. And it gets really awkward. And it's just like, that's just what happens. Like. During the wedding planning, my mom went so far as to call me, quote, evil because Nicola and I chose to include my nanny, Sandra, and Nicola's nonny at our table because they both didn't have their husbands. Both of our parents had their own tables equally adjacent to ours. So is this like grandmother or nanny? Nanny. Is nanny a nanny or a nonna? But some people call their grandmas like nanny too. But she's the American one.
28:32So why does she have a nonny? I don't know. Well, it sounds like, you know, the parents each had their own tables. But then at Brooklyn and Nicholas table, they had these two figures who like weren't their parents. Now, this is I'm chalking up to like true wedding stuff. A lot of this is like wedding planning where you see the worst in people. I actually imagine planning a wedding with Victoria Beckham as your mother-in-law is horrible. Like I'm going to take, I'm going to, I'm going to see Nicola's side there. Like I think when you have endless resources of your own and you don't need to ask Victoria Beckham for anything and it's your wedding, like what is, do what you want.
29:02Yeah. I think that like a lot of the statement had to do with wedding planning, Meshuggah, and a nonsense. And like, I have planned a wedding. It is horrible. You see the worst in people, you hate people. And then you get over it. These people never got over it. So we're still, they had a year of like, but the whole statement is about the, I know, but they were together for a year going to the premieres, being together, trying to make it work, but it seems like they weren't able to make it work. And they're still holding onto all the wedding Mishigas. No, but also like the reasons for the wedding Mishigas, it seems like Nicola and Victoria are strong personalities.
29:35They're both clashing heads. So they clashed at the wedding. They got over it. They're clashed again. Now they can't get over it. Yeah. And so they're bringing up everything from the wedding where it's like, at some point when I was reading this statement, this is so in the weeds. We're talking about like a wedding planning, like girl get over it. Like that is a part of marriage. It's horrible, but planning the wedding, you hate your family and then the wedding's over and it goes back to normal. So he said the night before our wedding, members of my family told me that Nicola was quote not blood and quote not family.
30:02Since the moment I started standing up for myself with my family, I've received endless attacks from my parents, both privately and publicly that were sent to the press on their orders. I have not seen an attack on Brooklyn that came from anyone other than like haters on the internet. Me. even my brothers were sent to attack me on social media before they ultimately blocked me out of nowhere last summer okay so this is where things start to bother me because at the end of the day it's very much he said she said like I said I actually think both people would agree that this one thing happened but their perceptions on it are totally different whereas like being blocked or blocking someone is sort of like it's much more binary like did you do it or did you not Cruz has alleged that Brooklyn blocked his family now Brooklyn is alleging that his family blocked him Like, which one is it?
30:45Last summer, though. So maybe someone unblocked. Now someone blocked again. Now everyone's telling the truth. Got it. That they blocked him last summer and he blocked them now. And this is so like minutia. We're blocking each other. Like, we've lost the plot. My mom hijacked my first dance with my wife, which had been planned weeks in advance to a romantic love song. In front of our 500 wedding guests, Mark Anthony called me to the stage wherein this schedule was planned to be my romantic dance with my wife. But instead, my mom was waiting to dance with me instead. She danced very inappropriately on me in front of everyone.
31:14I've never felt more uncomfortable or humiliated in my life. We wanted to renew our vows so we could create new memories of our wedding day that brings us joy and happiness, not anxiety and embarrassment. That they renewed their vows. So it's clear that like this wedding was a clusterfuck and they like don't acknowledge it, even though they never stopped posing pictures from it. I want to say one thing about this Marc Anthony thing. So it turns out this Marc Anthony thing is true. Obsessed, like obsessed. This is so Victoria, like this is so toxic mother-in-law thing to do. But just, you know, as a future toxic mother-in-law, I have one just question.
31:49Was there not a mother-son dance? Or was there two? Do you know what I mean? Because it sounds like there wasn't one. And so Victoria has just sort of made one, which she shouldn't have done. It's not her wedding. And Mark Anthony made one. I want to talk to Mark Anthony. Of course. Who put Mark up to this? We need Mark on the pot. Did someone put Mark up to this or did Mark feel compelled to sing something? He's at a wedding. Everybody loves him. I'm sure Mark has no idea. I'm sure Victoria asked him, assuming it was like all good. And then according to Denoir, this isn't in what Brooklyn said, but Brooklyn's not pulling punches.
32:23I mean, him saying his mother danced inappropriately. Like, seriously, what did she do? She wasn't like hugging him like my boy, my sweet boy. Now a video of Victoria dancing with her father has resurfaced. And like, it appears as though like she's a sexy dancer, no matter who she's dancing with. She's just a shoulder dancer. her no like she was you know um like you know show me are you gonna get up because it's like a two-person thing no no show me the video i don't want to dance with you why not yeah sure okay hold on it's just like she dances like a mom from the videos i've seen i i'm sorry i thought this was like such a low blow but anyways dumois had said that mark anthony also introduced her as Like the most beautiful woman in the room, Victoria Beckham, not, you know, the bride.
33:06So she just like sways her hips and, you know, is close. Like, I wouldn't say that that's inappropriate, but I could see someone saying it's inappropriate. I'm like, OK, I guess like again, I think it's like so. It's just a single person dance that she's doing. Like that's a solo dance that she's doing with a partner. So it's more so like just not jiving. But I'm sorry to call that inappropriate. It brings up like the worst connotations. Of course. And it's such and that's it's an unforgivable thing to say. Like, obviously, that's the takeaway. I mean, when I saw it, I was like, that's what I was like.
33:39Seriously, I got it from my chair. Like, I'm like, yeah, because regardless of what's in the statement, the fact that he put out eight pages, like talking about why he's not reconciling with his family, like keep it to yourself. Agreed. That he's speaking on it publicly and so obviously and in such detail is wrong. Period. It's spare behavior. It's giving spare. It's giving spare the memoir. Of course it is. And this is oldest son. Oldest. And I feel like I can acknowledge that probably during the wedding planning and the wedding itself, Victoria definitely took opportunities to make it. We're forgetting.
34:17This is fucking posh spice. It's always been about her. She is this larger than life figure. I could see her being like a nightmare to plan a wedding with. and I could see her I could also see Nicola wanting to give her nothing and I feel like they didn't give her a mother-son dance which is crazy so she just created the mother-son dance she wished to see in the world and made it like this big spectacle and then you know now in hindsight he could be like and she was dancing inappropriately like all of these things I am never and I feel like yes we acknowledge our bias I am really almost never going to take the side of someone who's publicly dragging their own family.
34:57Who's gathering out the dirty laundry. Unless your family is a ring of pedophiles or criminals. Like, for the most part, it's like interpersonal family things. And I'm just really, and if the family's intact, like you said, seems like Cruz and Romeo and they love Harper. They love their dad. They love their mom. They seem to be this really strong family unit. And again, maybe it's the Beckham machine, you know, winning me over. I just, but also, like, I'm also a wife. And if I feel disrespected by my mother-in-law, I want my husband to ride for me. So, like, it is very complicated. I'm trying to look at it.
35:31And I don't know. I just, Team Beckham. I'm like, sorry, Team Beckham. Not Peltz Beckham? No. Continuing on, so then he said. Wait, now it makes a lot of sense why they did that freaky Peltz Beckham thing. The name, the name, the name. My wife has been consistently disrespected by my family no matter how hard we've tried to come together as one. my mom has repeatedly invited women from my past into our lives in ways that were clearly intended to make us both uncomfortable. This is so Queen Elizabeth. Despite this, we still travel to London for my dad's birthday. So this is where everything deteriorated most recently, the birthday party.
36:01We traveled to London for my dad's birthday and we were rejected for a week as we waited in our hotel room trying to plan quality time with him. He refused all of our attempts unless it was at this big birthday party with a hundred guests and cameras at every corner. When he finally agreed to see me, it was under the condition that Nicola wasn't invited. It was a slap in the face. Later when my family traveled to LA. They refused to see me at all. Okay, so obviously something happened between when everyone was harmonious and the 50th birthday party, and he's just leaving that out. He didn't say they come to London, I only see Brooklyn, and nothing happened before that.
36:31Obviously, I don't know David Beckham personally. I just have a really hard time believing he was in the same country as his son and refused to see him, barring something crazy having already happened. Yeah, and refused to see Nicola. Something crazy happened. You left that out. Yeah, you can hate her, but you still have to see her. She's your daughter-in-law. Like, refuse. Or this is his version of events. But Brooklyn and Nicola were at the premiere of Beckham. Yeah. Something happened between that and London where he refuses to see his children. Duh. If he refuses. No, I think he refused to see.
37:06I think what we keep saying is like what Brooklyn is saying is true. He's just leaving out key things. Right, right. And painting everything in like the worst possible light. Yeah. anyways he says my family values public promotion and endorsements above all else brand beckham comes first family quote love so love is in quotes as if the love is not real is decided by how much you post on social media or how quickly you drop everything to show up and pose for a family photo op so he's saying they're the family that poses yes even if it's at the expense of our professional obligations what professional obligations oh wait was it you making your girl cheese or you taking a picture on a blurry camera we've got out of our way for years to show up and support at every fashion show every party and every press activity to show our quote perfect family you know what i hate it's like him and nicola acting like they are doing a favor by lending their big names to going to a victoria secret the best thing that could have ever happened to you was sitting front row at a victoria beckham fashion show like acting like they are holier and better like than you know showing up for your mom is them doing her a favor like she's this fabulous when you have accomplishment no but also when you have a major accomplishment like your family shows up for you if you want your family to show up to your major accomplishments like have some correct then he says but the one time my wife asked for my mom's support to save displaced dogs during the la fires my mom refused okay well now the dogs i'm sorry that's just that can't be the whole truth i agree and also like
38:33yeah sorry yeah hold on hold on and also
38:40and I am an animal lover of all the things like that happened during the LA wildfires of such destruction such tragedy and the dogs of course being one of them you're going to reach out to this woman who you literally hate like it's like a last like you know no matter what like we're fighting the dogs again dogs are so important dogs are worth saving of course but not before people so i just i feel like that he but he just he wants like everyone to now cancel her because she hates dogs yeah she wouldn't save the dogs right dogs dogs dogs fuck them dogs fuck them raggedy old dogs i'm just telling you i'm not buying it like that's such a low blow like such a low blow it's so harry and megan the narrative that my wife controls me is completely backwards i've been controlled by my parents for most of my life right that's that's their job sort of like what parents do.
39:35I grew up with overwhelming anxiety for the first time in my life since stepping away from my family. That anxiety has disappeared. I wake up every morning grateful for the life I chose and have found peace and relief. My wife and I do not want a life shaped by image, press or manipulation. I'm sorry. This is Harry and Megan. All we want is peace, privacy and happiness for us and our future family. That is why we'll be moving to Canada. It's so Harry and Megan because the overlying thing is like all these, you said she said but all we want is peace and privacy and there aren't two people who want to be famous more than harry and megan except for brooklyn and nicola like and we we know nicola now but you guys forget because i remember back in the day like all she she was always like running around la hollywood being like an actress director whatever like coming from a very wealthy family you can just fund that sort of lifestyle so the this is sort of the life that she wanted and i'm sure when you She's famously exclusively dated Nepo families in an attempt.
40:32Remember the Anwar Hadid days? No, I don't. Oh, they dated for a very long time. That was her model era, of course. So please, elephants don't forget, okay? We know this is the life she's always wanted. And it's a life that being rich is amazing. And some people who are rich, it's not enough for them. They do also always want to be famous. So she is now. And it is what she's wanted, I think. So, well, what I always say is like, let's see what they do next. If they sail off into the sunset into a life of privacy and toxicity free, anxiety free, then like, you know what? Then what they said was true.
41:07They didn't want to be in the, they don't want to be on Netflix. They don't want to be at the red carpets. They just wanted their piece. And I will say the proof is in the pudding. Yes. We have to see what they do next. That's true. It just makes me really sad because like there's no winning for Victoria and David here because Because even if everyone takes their side, like even us, we're taking their side and we're laughing at this. Like, but it's her child. No, it's horrible. It's horrible. It's a nightmare. Like, it made me sick to read it. And to put out something like that is just wrong. Like, if you want to cut ties with your family, go ahead.
41:41You don't have to tell the whole world. And I just want them. They might have felt like the Beckhams were putting out all this stuff about them. We have been covering this, talking about this for years. And we have nothing. It's so mysterious. We had nothing concrete to go on and you just took a big shit in the middle of the room. And it was you, not them. No, it was you. And I think a lot of people are like, well, Nicola's controlling him. And Nicola wrote this. You know what? You were responsible as a grown man for your own actions. This is your, no, sorry, blood family. And I don't know. Like I said, I'm really never going, I'm always going to be biased when a situation like this because the person who's like, you know, spreading their legs, telling everybody what's going on inside their family home.
42:20I just find icky unless of course you have something really nefarious but this sounds like a lot of just interpersonal family wedding planning drama based on what he's told me clashing personalities hurt feelings and to take it this far I I actually find it deplorable and I don't know what the general like consensus is of people online like I think a lot of people are like good for Brooklyn you know you got to protect your wife wife priority and yes actually as a wife of course like your man should always but it feels like these two are so hell bent on being victims that they see everything through this like perspective perspective of victimhood when they're really not it sounds like he came from a family that gave him I mean if you've literally you have to see his photography book like it is an exercise in parental love because you know they funded that whole project like it's absurd his cooking shows like it's absurd it's a joke and so these are two people who I think found themselves like you know as a couple and I think they started to get like you know people were really into their courtship before the wedding Like, and I think they kind of got high on their own supply and like thinking that like, you know, they're this great power couple like Victoria and David and they're sort of like equals and peers with one another.
43:24So, yeah, we'll come to your show, but you better be grateful. It's like, well, no, you better be grateful. Yeah, that's the vibe I get. Yeah. And all those things like that you just said when you just take out the names and replace them with Harry and Meghan. Yeah. Stand true. So I'm glad that they've all found each other in this mean, cold world. That might be a good segue into our next story. You know what? It can be. We'll push number two. But there are so many parallels to Harry and Meghan. Our next story is that Meghan Markle's With Love, Meghan, won't return for a third season on Netflix.
43:51And I just want to say it's actually a second season. It's not returning for it because the first season was shot. One and two were shot all at once. So they put out the first half and then they saved the second half and called it season two. But really, it was one season that they shot. And why would they not put out the second half? They already filmed it, no matter how season one performed. Now, I know all we do is talk about like projects that Meghan and Harry start and don't finish. So like this shouldn't be shocking. I am floored. I'm always floored when there's an admission of failure. Yeah.
44:16Even though like while the show was heavily criticized, it was heavily watched. Like it did chart on Netflix. Like the second season. Definitely less. Which debuted last August did not even make the list of the streamers top 10 shows in the U.S. the week it debuted. Oh, everything makes it. Everything makes it. Yeah. I think maybe like the intrigue only held people so because of course we're curious. And then we found out like it wasn't filmed at her house. And like it really was so surface level. And like we were just eating edible flowers. Very surface level. And I feel like I was a target demo.
44:46I'm always saying like, I want more cooking shows. I enjoyed bits and bobs of the first season, but at the end of the day, like there wasn't real value in the show and things takeaways for me. Like I, you know, you're not learning something cause she's not an educator and we're not learning with her. You know, someone come, there was just like not enough value to be taken from the show. You got to entertain, you got to educate, educate, like shows like that. You really have to either educate or, you know, it's outrageous and entertaining. And there wasn't any of that. Right. Like she was really trying to trick us into thinking like she was a professional and a lot of it was like very elemental.
45:19But even that, like these days, like aesthetic content does so well. It doesn't need to be. But there was just really like a like a serious sense of genuineness missing. Like, yeah, it was so scripted. It was so performative. You know, you could tell all of her guests. That was the first time she was meeting all of them, except for Daniel, the makeup artist. And like that was really just very uninteresting. But I'm shocked. I'm shocked at the admission but at a certain point like people like companies have to make money you can't just have this like house of cards so Meghan Markle's show We Love Megan won't be returning to Netflix multiple sources have told page six after the Duchess called the show quote a lot of work one insider said it's not she said that?
45:59I'm sure she said it in the context of a much larger thing how it's more it's a lot more work than I thought you know it's not returning as a series there have been conversations about holiday specials but there's nothing in the works yet said the insider crossing my fingers for a holiday special she did a holiday special this year right it was season two no was it it wasn't just a separate as ever with love holiday loving the holidays with in an as ever type of way i don't know um okay we do need to start a list of megan's failed projects only because there are so many confessions of a teenage founder yeah with love Megan now archetypes wasn't there um like a Disney plus initiative well there was an initiative was it an animated series and was it not Netflix how are they doing Netflix and Disney plus and also did she do a children's book yes she did uh or did Harry can you give me a list of all of Megan Markle's um projects in the last five years I think she did a children's book called The Bench The Bench yes that came and went quite quickly Harry still owes Random House two books two books so Netflix and TV okay they did the docu-series which I do feel like to this day is their most successful venture with Love Megan Heart of Invictus which is a documentary about Harry's involvement in the Invictus games oh and they're also making the polo documentary for Netflix polo is next Live to Lead which was a docu-series featuring leaders and influencers produced by Megan oh also known as Live to Lead in 2022 holiday specials and short form content including holiday episodes of With Love Megan and a short social media video content.
47:38Megan teased as a part of bigger content plans. Archwell. Oh, Meet Me at the Lake. Okay, we're waiting for that. Masaka Kids, A Rhythm Within, which is a documentary short. I'm not sure if it's come out yet. Let me just check. I just don't think documentary short is like where it's gonna... Product launches, of course, are Shelf Stable Food. Right, right. A Sether. Podcast. Female founder. and archetypes and then of course arch well okay so a sever is still going a sever is still going and let's see what happens with that i also saw somewhere in this article that like now she's going to focus more on like social content for her uh cooking and stuff more like bite-sized content but her social is a disaster un disaster like it's insane yeah i can't believe yeah so i I don't have hope for that.
48:34Yeah. I wonder how much money they have. Like, for real, for real. I'm sure they have many millions. But, like, they spend many millions. And they want more millions, you know? Yeah. They don't have as many millions as the people that they are hanging out with. The life post-royalty, like, once you're officially cut off, like, no matter how high you start, it's almost impossible to survive. Like, what was her name? Fergie. you eventually end up becoming like just a tabloid sort of rundown and these are two people who started with everything especially in America, like the adoration of America and it's just sort of like this tale as old as time no matter who you are, you could start out strong but it's not looking good No, it's not good and not even to make it for a third season a second shoot is rough are you ready for our next story if it's the heartbreaking devastating love is dead news that's brought to you by little spoon it is you know that moment when it's almost six o 'clock the kids are hungry and you're staring into the fridge holding a snack pouch two grapes and you have zero plan for dinner well turns out parenthood does not come with a meal plan so stop stressing over last minute meals and start using little spoon today's sponsor they deliver real food for babies toddlers and big kids straight to your door so meal time actually feels easy and i was just chatting with some moms that went to a music class and they were raving.
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53:55Thanks, Koji. You're welcome. Our next story, Summer House stars Amanda Petula and Kyle Cook split after four years of marriage. Now, if you know anything about the marriage or the relationship that preceded it, quite literally nothing about this is shocking. There were also rumors. The shock to me is like the admission. That they did it. She did it. Yeah, that like so many seasons of like they have a it seems like not a flourishing relationship, but they're then at the reunion. No, we're good. We're strong. They love each other. We're happy. And then to be like, actually, no. Yeah, I do. Like, there's just this celebration happening for anyone that's found this out like Amanda's free.
54:34But like, I don't know. I really started to change my tune on it a couple like I feel like when I watch the most recent season, because the gas Kyle is this 40 year old man child. He's DJing. He's acting like he wants to be a serious person. He's not. He cheated on her. He's awful. He does inappropriate things. He fell asleep at a fan's house. But like that's her low life, you know? And she clearly loved him so much to put up with like an iota of the stuff that she put up with. I think anyone else would have walked away. But like she really loved him so much. I don't know. After all the things that they've been through, they had been through worse.
55:01Falling asleep at a fan's house is bad. But they had been through worse. And I don't know. At a certain point, I just started rooting for them because like she really loved him. Yeah, the love must be so strong that these things don't really register. I think falling asleep at a fan's house is bad. Falling asleep at a fan's house when you're married for four years, I think is worse than cheating in the early stage of your relationship. Yeah. Drunk, blackout, like whatever happened. It was like obviously a mistake. You know, it wasn't like he was carrying on an affair. Like I think falling asleep at a fan's house four years into your marriage is worse.
55:33I mean, it's all bad. You know, I think we're all mad. Yeah. But I just think that that is bonkers. It is. And I think it's a real like it just makes me sad. Like I'm not celebrating this like everybody else because like what I see is like a girl who just wasted so much time on this like real low life. Like, you know, I don't know how they were married for four years. They dated for many years before that. And she did get a lot out of the marriage, I think. But at the end of the day, like, I don't know. It's like, thank God they didn't have kids. Like for real. Yeah. Because a divorce when you don't have kids is such a low life.
56:07I wonder what was it for her. because the fan house thing happened months ago enough that it's in the preview for the coming season that hasn't even aired yet. So it happened over the summer, say. Right. A lot of people think it's like his newfound DJ career, but he like has been doing that on the low for a long time. Almost like we've seen two seasons of it. And it seems absurd, of course, but like this is a person whose job it is to party. It's like not that crazy. Yeah, it's like good for his alcohol brand. It's good for his reality TV career. But now it's six months after, more or less, falling asleep at a fan's house.
56:35Like, why now? Why now? Why this fan? what changed in their relationship that was different than a year ago or two years ago, or maybe it just compounds and it's like, I can't take this anymore. Yeah, and I'm curious because this was a marriage. Like, are we going to get the very sort of stereotypical, you know, call her daddy episode? He was texting other bitches, you know, and you find out like really what color their underwear was. Or that doesn't happen. Like, I don't feel like that happens a lot with people who are married. When you are kind of like, yeah. To me, it's completely like comparable to Tom and Katie.
57:07Oh great You're all about the great analogies today Oh well thank you so much Like two people who were married for what felt like Like longer and by the end Like they're so different How were they ever together Where it's going to feel like But like also the whole time people knew this was a bad marriage But they told us that their best friend's Bubba Rubba Shubba Bubba Rubba Shubba And so we're like okay Bubba Rubba You're right We're obviously like TV's not showing us something in the edit We're wrong Bubba Rubba Bubba Rubba And in a year from now It's going to feel like how were these two people ever married?
57:37Like Tom and Katie, how were those two people ever married? It's an amazing comparison. It's so true. So I'm curious, like if... And they never really turned around and were like, they did this. They were so terrible. No, they hate each other and they like leave mean comments on each other's Instagrams and stuff. But we never got a full expose because at the end of the day, it was a marriage. And even if you hate that person, like you should want to protect them publicly. But also because they were on reality TV, I think we saw what happened. Right. Nothing needed to be said. With Kyle and Amanda.
58:05One, whatever they want to share with us, they'll share on their show, like in their time. And two, we've seen it all play out. I don't think there's a lot of stuff that we don't know. I think, I don't think there's going to be like a sit down, tell all about things that happen in the marriage that we don't know. Maybe a sit down, tell all about how I'm feeling about it. Of course, of course. Now, where does this leave Summer House? Because like, yes, people break up Carl and Lindsay, but this was a marriage and like an eight year relationship. Does one of them have to go? I don't think so. I mean it's fucking crazy If they continue to spend the summer together Like I just want to say Especially because I really feel like A part of Amanda hates Kyle Like I mean how can you not He's so awful So it's not like Some people get divorced And it's like wrong It's Lindsay and Carl Lindsay hates Carl Right But they just weren't married They did not share a life For a year they did But they were very close Like this is like a more extreme version of that But when they ended their engagement It was like how could they be In the same house together and then they did it.
59:03Well, because I don't know if that would have been the case if she didn't end up getting pregnant and like literally new life, who dis? Like Carl is so yesterday's news. Like she literally had a baby like a year later. I think it would have been different. I don't know. Like, is she going to start dating? I mean, I feel like, and also I had seen something that like he had a cousin's wedding and she was at the wedding. Like, and even at BravoCon, people were like, they were living separately. They just finished filming the city. I feel like they've been broken up for a while. Yeah. And even before that, they were unhappy.
59:32So I feel like her being with someone else starting now would be fair to say. Yeah. I also think like, will it be Jesse Solomon? You're going to have to like pull Summerhouse from Kyle's cold dead hands. Like he's not going quietly. No. And I'm so curious, of course, about where this leaves, you know, the stock for lover boy. I do feel like at one time, like, you know, I forget who owns like what percentage, but they did not sign a prenup. So Amanda is entitled to half of whatever Kyle owns. Like, and I do feel like at one point it was like a really very valuable I do feel like it's kind of changed like I feel like Amanda would have been like you can have it like it's like it's yours and whatever like I think at one point like they were on track to like actually be a really successful beverage company and like maybe get acquired by like a but I don't feel like that's the case anymore so I could see Amanda being like listen I hate this marriage and if this is what's holding us together like just have it yeah I wonder how it will go I could imagine her and And also he's so wrapped up in it.
1:00:27Like it is his whole entire self. Like I think she might just be like, just have it and I'll take the dogs. I'm taking the dogs, dumbass. Yeah. This feels a little bit like Megan. Like I'm not surprised by it, but I'm surprised that it actually was admitted. Yeah. Like that we're doing it. Yeah. And I just like, I don't know. I'm not like, you know, everybody, the collective joy and celebration. Like it's sad. Like this is a girl who like literally wasted so much of her life. They probably been together 10 years. That's terrible. Like, what does she walk away from this marriage with? Just terrible memories.
1:01:01Yeah. It's sad. I feel bad for her. Yeah. But we'll see what happens in terms of the show. Yeah, I'm curious. And, you know, I do feel like this breathes, like, a little bit of an interesting life into Summer House. I feel like they kind of needed it. Well, I feel like this season looks to be good based on the preview, but it hasn't even come out yet. So this. Was there a trailer? Yeah. And then the end fan. That was just a trailer. Oh, right. Right, right, right, right. So I also think if they've been separated for months. We'll see the dissolution. It will happen on the show. Yeah. Because I do think that that's true.
1:01:28It's been reported for kind of months now, but everyone just sort of let them come to it in their own time. So it's not like they broke up yesterday. But there was also the announcement of like a spinoff-ish type of show of Summer House. So maybe like Kyle gets Summer House and Amanda gets the city. Oh, true. That would be good. That would be nice. But yeah, they finished filming the city right before BravoCon and they came in like literally right off set and they were like, oh, it's crazy. I think that's when the marriage ended. Oh, and that's actually a good platform for a new show to launch off of.
1:01:52Yeah. Love that. Very Sheena Shea, Eddie Cibrian. Our next story, some drama with the GlamBot director. Oh my God. I'm fucking obsessed with this. And I'm also confused because I was not entirely sure what, so I don't know if you know the guy. He goes really viral on TikTok. I've seen him before, but I didn't realize he was such a personality for like owning the GlamBot. So I don't know if he owns, that's my thing. So years ago, this guy who clearly like was the guy who would go to award shows with the GlamBot and like tell people, okay you have to stand here it's a three second camera turn it two seconds he gives them directions he started filming a lot of behind the scenes and you would see like celebrities come up you would see them do the glam bot and you would see like if they were friendly or not and an element of it not to be like well now that he's getting canceled i always knew he was bad but like there was an element of nefariousness to it because you're filming people they don't know and like these are people at a work event they're not always like because there's like a video of j-lo going viral now like she walks up to the glam but she's not rude or anything she's not like super chatty now people know they're being filmed they'll be like how are you how's your son he's eight right like you know they use it as an opportunity to be like i'm a good celebrity you know because at first he was filming and they were going so viral because it felt like this kind of like behind the scenes they don't know they're being filmed what are celebrities really like to the cast and crew but an element of it always felt like a little icky to me because like you're filming people without their consent he knew what he was doing when he would post videos like sometimes people would come up and so this jayla one's going viral recently she doesn't say a lot she's obviously done the glam about 1000 times she walks up she's like hi he's like it's a three second camera she's like she does her pose and he's like thanks so much and she like waves like she literally maybe says one word she's not rude but you know she's already having like a tough time and so it went super fast j-lo's rude to the cast and crew he ended up taking the video down so i just like i don't know his thing always like kind of bothered me also because just does he own the glam bot a fun fact that not a lot of people know is that the glam bot was actually created for the e-network by joseph khan the guy who directed a lot of taylor swift's music videos so in terms of who owns it I don't know maybe he like copycatted it and like brings it to award shows I don't know what his relationship with the intellectual property technology is but he's the guy and he's also made himself a celebrity like he gets he's like an influencer now so something about it always felt like a little icky to me I just want to say and now it turns out he's quite an icky individual because this exchange is getting leaked and I never even thought about it it's like a photo booth yeah you could book it for your own event and this woman reached out to him directly being like, I would like to be an email.
1:04:14I'm having a wedding. I would like to book the glam bot. What is the cost associated and how do I book? And what follows is the nastiest fucking exchange ever. Yes. So in a series of messages from 2019 that are surfacing now, she reached out to the book, the his search, she reached out to him to book the services of the glam bot, apparently for a wedding, but she was met with resistance from the filmmaker, the glam bot guy, who stressed that hiring him and the glam bot would be expensive. He said, quote, just so you were aware, the glam bot is a camera system and personnel, used by a network television station for one of the biggest red carpets of the year.
1:04:46Okay, can I read the whole exchange? Sure. She reached out, put in an inquiry, and he goes, hi, Yinka, thanks for reaching out. Just so you are aware, the Glambot is a camera system and personnel used by a network television station for one of the biggest red carpets of the year. It is not cheap. If you feel like this is something that might be within your budget range, I am happy to discuss further. So the girl was pretty much unfazed. The girl is very wealthy. She goes, yeah. She said, hi, Cole. Yeah, it's something in my budget range. Smiley face. Thanks. He responds, hi, Yinka. Copy. I don't see how you could be since I didn't say how much it was.
1:05:25And it could be between$10 ,000 and a million. Okay. But to her, it could be a million. It doesn't matter to this woman. He says. She says. Sorry. Yeah. She says. Yeah, I just assumed it was very pricey since it's featured. at the Oscars. So what are the steps to book? Would you be the person that comes? Do you just work with them for carpets? What's the rundown? All very good questions that I myself am also wondering. It's a crew of about 15 people plus network setups, rehearsals, gear drop off, camera rental, lighting rentals, insurance permits, et cetera, et cetera. He's saying that's what happens at an award show.
1:05:59We really don't give a fuck. We're trying to book it for our wedding. For some drunk friends. He's just like trying to be impressive to this random woman. She said, okay, so where would I begin? through you or through a website. He says, this is where it really gets crazy. Okay, it's$300 ,000 and I'll take a 10 % deposit to secure the gear and once I have the deposit, I can do a contract. Ready to get started, question mark? She said, thanks, Cole, I'll reach out by Monday. He says, if you wanted to know how much it costs, you needed to ask, you just needed to ask. You don't need to pretend you're gonna book it.
1:06:35She said, I did, that's why I asked. I want to book it. That's the end of the exchange. What an asshole. Yeah, a lot of thoughts. So his defense is that, like, you know, someone could just, like, reach out. And I'm sure it happens a lot. No, like, inquire and just sort of, like, put him on blast. Like, this is what it costs. But I don't think anyone would expect for it to be cheap. If it got leaked that, like, the glam bot costs$300 ,000 for you to be at your wedding, like, I think people would be like, okay, so don't have the$300 ,000 glam bot at your wedding. And to be clear, I thought it was, like, so expensive that you couldn't even get it for a private event.
1:07:04Like, it never even occurred to me. So, yeah, I would have found that fact interesting. and I imagine he does get like a lot of annoying inquiries from like fans like Stan Twitter. So don't run an internet business like this is what you wanted and this is what you got. However, I would like to see just to like know where this all landed like did any her wedding. Oh, yeah. Could she have afforded the glam bot? Oh, yes, yes. Very much so. Okay. And then of course, like, you know, the picture that shows he's now being accused of racism because she's like a black woman. And so it's like, well, what?
1:07:33You didn't think a black woman could afford it? Is that why you were being so nasty? so nasty and so rude and condescending yeah and apparently she's like you know a Nigerian princess like she could have afforded it and then some oh my god I'm crying that's what I read on Twitter so just like you know that's the wedding like you can swear yeah it was a lovely affair glam botless of course she had three beautiful ceremonies of her yeah like it wasn't a budget thing that's why like she reached out and she was just like whatever it's gonna be like it's gonna be he's like an asshole someone said Mind you, Yinka had been keeping that email thread since 2019.
1:08:08Oh, is it from 2019? Yeah. Committed to seeing the downfall of an enemy. But why did she just post this now? I don't know. Oh, that's funny. I didn't know it was from 2019, but it's literally going so viral. Yeah, that's really crazy. Like, just when someone wants your service, just send the, send the, how much it costs. Also, it also felt like he was pulling$300 ,000 out of thin air to be like, oh. Yes. No, he made it up. Yeah. Okay. Unprofessional. Unprofessional. It's funny that this happened in 2019 because when I think about the trajectory of the glam bot career, that was his heyday, 2019.
1:08:42Oh, no, wait. Because 2020 was COVID. So he was acting like this before he really popped off. In the beginning of the glam bot. No, but I'm talking about him and his personal. Because it sounds like maybe he got famous and got to be an asshole. But in 2019. And I imagine 2019, before he got famous, he wasn't getting rogue emails from people reaching out. It would have been a real customer. Yeah, so he was an asshole before the fame, which is frightening. yeah but having a glam bud at your wedding would be sick such a slay such a slay never even thought about it i need to get married again and get three hundred thousand dollars and the thing about the i don't even think it's 300 i don't even think it's 300 000 because actually what i saw was somebody was like and again i have to stop falling for ai because i saw somebody going on the website being like it's actually five thousand dollars like it's not even that crazy because it's just a video with slow-mo yeah what are we talking about maybe the network one is like a bigger deal but like it's just a video on a neck a camera on a neck that swivels and then you slow it down i feel like any that's a good business idea someone should do an at-home glam bot and then like bring it to wedding okay a glam bot rental for an event for according to google gemini typically costs around three to six thousand dollars for the setup for the standard package including setup and attendant and then unlimited videos with instant sharing yeah it's not that proprietary actually for large activations corporate events costs can jump to like 13 ,000.
1:10:02Yeah. And like the one that's like 360 where everyone's like, damn. Exactly. Like, yeah. Like Gerald. Yeah. Right. Photo booth, event photo booths, like a really sophisticated. It's not what it once was. It used to be like the biggest, get any of them for any event. Like for, I didn't even question 300 ,000. Me neither. And now that I'm thinking about it, it's one camera and on like a fancy. On a neck. Yeah. And then you slow it down. Like what you could do in your phone. Yeah. You could do a homemade glam. Not that crazy. You could do a homemade glam bot. And I don't know. I just feel like the, like, I always felt like his intentions with the behind the scenes celebrity videos, like, always rubs me the wrong way.
1:10:41Now celebrities know. So, like, they know when it's glam bot time, their publicists are like, the whole thing's filmed. Be nice. Whereas before, you were walking on a carpet, you're at a work event, you smile for the glam bot, and then you go on about your day. You're not, you're schmoozing. And so him, like, filming everyone and setting it up, and at first, like, for the first, like, year or two, people didn't, like, know that they were being filmed. It just felt icky to me. so I just want to say I was praying for his downfall especially if the crime like J-Lo is just being quiet like short and quiet you know no one's like barking orders correct I don't know I didn't like it our fifth and final story Traders recap let me get a stretch you know what I might need my sunglasses too so two episodes were released Traders spoilers incoming this is pretty much the end of the show so if you haven't caught up have a great day we'll see you tomorrow Okay, so the first episode The second episode is where like the big things happened And where I really have a lot to say about Colton V.
1:11:36Michael Rappaport, and I have been like a staunch Defender of Michael Rappaport because I just felt like This entire time like he's been himself He is just like loud mouth, housewives obsessed And like that's who they cast and that's what they wanted And that's what they got, and then I do feel like A lot of people were, you know, unfairly Coming for Michael, and then this episode Like if you hated Michael Yeah, put him on
1:12:00it was michael v colton and i just i i have no problem with what michael said i hate colton okay so let's just talk about let's get right to the meat and then we'll talk about other stuff because they were all accusing one another um of and i just want to say up until now everyone's been hating that colton's on the show they've been saying you know the cassie and he's really crazy like people in this sphere we're always talking about cancel culture you know like you know somebody says a popular an opinion that's unpopular they get canceled brands whatever they're never allowed to leave their house again but i feel like when we talk about cancel culture a lot of times we like loop in like you know criminals like kevin spacey i'm not talking about kevin spacey okay i'm talking about like camilla cabello and her old tweets like you know what i mean yeah there are levels like i actually like cancel culture for men who stalk women and put gps trackers on their car like call me crazy i don't feel like that's the same as like having tweets from high school like I don't when I'm talking about cancel culture I ain't talking about Colton Underwood because you know what I want him to be canceled like he's a crazy person okay so you are never gonna find me defending Colton Underwood and I feel like this has been like you know he thought he was real this is show is so big and it really makes he thought it was this renaissance of the very like Dylan Efron edit like I think he thought like this is my time and he came in with his sweater vests and his fun oh are you gay did you play football for 17 years Say it again.
1:13:20We don't give a fuck. Okay. He's so bothering me so much. And then the comment. Yeah. And I think he wants to like glaze over his time on reality TV because like it is murky, you know, questionable. Not like, first of all, the fact that he was on the show, The Bachelor dated 33 women. He says both. He kind of talked about it because he said at the breakfast that he didn't know he was gay when he was on The Bachelor. Because some people don't know him there. He's like not really famous, like in this new reality TV world. Everyone's like older. They didn't watch Colton Caesar. So someone's like, oh, you were the bachelor?
1:13:52Or they're younger, like, and they didn't watch Colton Caesar. So they know he's gay, but they're like, oh, wait, you were the bachelor? And he was like, yeah, but I didn't know I was gay. So he says it that morning. Yeah. He dated 33 women on national television, like in pursuit of marriage, and he didn't know he was gay. That's what he said. Right. And then at the roundtable, when his, you know, coming out timeline is being discussed, he's saying, well, are you saying that I'm going to keep being a secret because I kept a secret for 29 years? Well, I thought you didn't know for 29 years. He said, you think it was fun for 29 years of my life, like keeping that secret.
1:14:20So did you know or didn't you know? We can talk about that. But also, I think he wants to glaze over that whole era because it ended with him stalking his ex-fiance. She had a protective order against him. She had a restraining order against him. He put a tracker on her car. There were like harassing text messages. Her whole family. And so that's actually, I don't think anybody like really takes umbrage with the fact that Colton was the bachelor and now he's gay because like. Who cares? Shit happens. No, and it's like, it's TV. Okay. And it's like he's living. I'm sure, you know, he played football in the NFL.
1:14:47I'm sure he had like a very long journey to like, of course, an uneasy one. Right. So like no one is like was mad that Colton was a bad guy. But that chapter of like stalking his ex is if you like you could take issue with Colton for that. Oh, and I do. Mind you. Right. Justice for Cassie Randolph. So he kind of wants to glaze over the whole thing and just be like Colton on Traders. And I will say for the first few episodes, I was enjoying his arc on Traders. I felt like he was really playing the game hard. But then he started playing too hard. And this to me was like the demise of his arc on the show when he came after Tiffany, like all of a sudden, really sort of baseless.
1:15:23She's sitting there crying like the whole room sort of devastating. And he's like whipping up votes and he can just like decide who is going to be the traitor. And then he's a very compelling, charismatic guy. People really listen to him. Yeah. And in the first few episodes, I was enjoying it, too. Like he's he's putting together things. And it's a shame because he's overplayed his hand at this point. And his next theory, he's actually on to something with Lisa Rinna. Yeah, but it's too bad. But so with Tiffany, like that was really sad to see. And I could also imagine like this game is like sort of a mindfuck.
1:15:50You think someone's a traitor. You're going to go hard for them. So he goes so hard for Tiffany. She's sitting there crying. Like Michael Appelfort said, she felt crazy, alone and isolated and she gets sent home. So the next day he's back at it again. Wait, mind you, like what he just did is the crime. They will not let Ron off the hook for. And Ron actually had evidence. The whole point of this game is like you have to accuse someone. It's not a crime to accuse someone. It's not a crime to be wrong, especially if you came to he convinced me. And like he really she did flub her work multiple times.
1:16:20It wasn't like he pulled this thing out of thin air. Literally, Colton went off of vibes like so baseless that like his crime to me is more egregious. He should have been sent home immediately. And also it's like it's not a crime to get it wrong. It's the point. But like Michael Rapoport said the next day, like you have egg on your face. Maybe take a backseat. you know your sniffer is off and he's like well if i miss a shot i'm shooting again let's take a sip of water before your next shot let me rethink yep we strategize you know work on your shot so then comes the comment like so they're going back and forth michael is now his new target he's going to try to get everyone like i just want to say leading up to that i felt like colton was going too hard and and knowing that michael's obviously not the traitor like he's wrong like he does need to reassess the things that he thinks make someone a traitor because you went so hard and you were so wrong.
1:17:08He also was taking credit for calling out Donna as the traitor when he was not the one with that original idea. Like he thinks he like that is a win in Colton's pocket. He did not vote for Donna in the first round table. He was a bandwagon Donna. Yeah. So they're having the conversation and Michael, you know, is being accused of being a traitor. So his sort of strategy is like, you're the traitor. Actually, you're the one pointing fingers at everyone. And, you know, if anyone here is going to keep a secret, it's you. Yeah. He said, I'm he said, just like Tiffany last night, I'm angry. I'm pissed off and I'm isolated because of him.
1:17:38And nobody in this room would be better at holding a secret than you. Which is, so now immediately Colton took it as like, oh, homophobic. You're saying because I held in a secret for 29 years, even though this morning I said I didn't. Because I held in a secret for 29 years that I'm gay, that I would be a good traitor. And everybody's clutching their pearls. Johnny Weir is going to pass out. Like, and they immediately sent him home because they literally just decided in that moment he's a homophobe. Nobody wants to be like touching the homophobe. and it's like Michael, rip Michael Rappaport. Here lies Michael.
1:18:06In that moment, Michael Rappaport was banished. And it's funny. And I do believe that Michael Rappaport did not mean that because he has no idea at first why everyone's like so, I guess. He's like... He doesn't even know to apologize. He has no idea what's going on. Because he didn't know that he said something that could be perceived as so wrong. And immediately once it's made clear to him what they think he said. Because Johnny Weir said the closet and Michael's like the closet I'm not talking about that right he's like and I don't even know if Michael knows about all the Cassie stuff but like yes oh and by the way he does not it is a deceitful person who would do something like that Michael's like no you just are and I think his vibe Colton like coming into the show he's so amped up on like the show and playing the game and I think he really wanted to be the traitor and that's what Michael's saying it's like no and Michael's also accusing him of being able to hold a secret not because he's was closeted but because Michael believes him to be a traitor like right so So the crew, like the vibe shifts immediately.
1:19:03Michael is sent home in that moment. Everybody ends up voting for him. Even Johnny Ware was like, I don't care who you are. I want you out of my castle. Girl, I didn't even forget you were here. Like, I want you out of my castle. That was not it. Now, the reason I'm wearing my glasses is I just want to say one thing. I do not believe that Michael Rappaport meant that. I really, really don't. Also, because Michael Rappaport seriously can't help himself. And if he meant that, he would say, yeah, I meant that. He thrives off of moments like that. So yeah, he would have gone down in a blaze of glory.
1:19:33He doesn't care. He would have gone hard. He would have doubled down and been like, yes. And I meant it. As far as Michael knows, given the conversation that was had that morning, Colton didn't hold a secret for 29 years. He was just a late in life gay guy. The thing is, Colton is always talking about his sexuality. And I'm telling you, nobody gives a fuck. Nobody cares. He's always talking about how he's gay and he played football for 17 years. Nobody cares. Like he's just one of those people who thinks that everybody's always thinking about him. And so when he's sitting there like so victim.
1:20:01And there it is. Yeah. And he just went from being like the biggest baddest in the house. And that's what's bothering me about this show. It's like everybody came on first episode like trash talk. I'm going to kill you. I'm going to murder. I'm going to taste your blood. And I'm going to like it. Yeah. And Michael framed something in a way that they found offensive. Everyone's like oh. Fletcher. And all of a sudden stop the game. They know he's a faithful. Send him home even though he's a faithful. I can't believe he said that. And it's like you guys are talking about killing each other, how you're going to be like the baddest, nastiest person in the house, lying to people.
1:20:31They're telling you they're these traitors. They're opening up opening up to you and you're going to use it against them. And because Michael framed something in a way that felt unwoke to you. Oh, stop the game. And I just want to say shout out to like the very few people at that table who did not vote for Michael. Because the people that voted for Michael did not actually at that point even think that he was a traitor. They just wanted to be marked safe as like woke from cancellation. But I actually think and they just wanted that. I think they also want to do what they think the fans are going to want them to do.
1:20:59And from what I've seen, like people do not feel the way they thought they were going to feel about this. For the most part, nobody thought Michael meant that. It would have been a crazy thing to say. Despite the fact that everybody does dislike Michael. Like he's not popular online, but I actually think Colton's less popular. Yeah. And in this moment, they're like, no, that's he was actually saying like true things about Colton. And all of that was missed. and everybody like with their backs up, like pearls clutching. Like it was so loser. It was so phony. Yeah. I feel like there's like an SNL sketch that like mimics what this was because it was just like the most performative.
1:21:36I want you out of my castle. Meanwhile, hasn't impacted the show in the smallest way. Like shout out to Stephen Coletti for still voting for Ron. And Candace. Candace and Lisa both voted for Ron, but like they have ulterior motives. So like it was just like a real exercise in group thing, right? Like it was so like herd mentality. It really like I now believe that this group of people to be the biggest losers on the planet. Like I thought it was so lame. And if they don't like Michael, like they found the show be like filming with him unpleasant like that. I understand. But under the guise like framing him as a homophobe, which really I do not believe that he is like was so fucking lame.
1:22:12It was just the lamest group of people doing the lamest thing. Like the theme was lame. Yeah. I do not think he meant that. I cannot stand Colton. It was like the best thing to happen to him in that moment. Yeah. And also the heats off of him. They're not going to vote him out at the next round table. That would be homophobic. Yep. As well. However, will the traitor send him home now that he's on to Lisa Rinna? He did say that in front of a group of people. So I do think that that would be curious if they sent him home. But I also think he might have picked up a shield. I think he might have picked up a shield too.
1:22:40And yes, it was unfortunate that he said it in such a big group of people because it, one, makes him suspicious of everyone in that group, Rob. And two, it kind of confirms Lisa as a traitor. Yeah. But when Lisa found out, that was so funny. Fucking Colton, fuck. But she actually is sort of playing it wrong because she has been really quiet. And even though Candace, you know, I'm team Monique, Candace is playing it really well. And the sunglasses is a great call by Colton. And the over-the-top reactions when they come in and then not really putting her neck out there at the round table. Which like regular Lisa Rinno would.
1:23:11Right. So Candace is like speaking enough that you think that she's so safe. I mean, Johnny and Tara trust her so much they're about to let her in on their big secret. I can't wait for them to just reveal like, we're best friends for life and everybody's like okay um like seriously nobody cares like they are just I think they really think they're doing something yeah and I think Rob's also playing a really good game but also because people don't know him that much so they don't know what to expect but what bothers me is like Michael was so entertaining on the show he had so many good one-liners like I will miss his presence and then like when Maura's really bothering me she's like stop talking you talk too much it's like girl you don't talk enough yeah anyone want to say something at this round table does anyone want to bring something forward everyone is so scared of me Like, yes, when you put something out there, you now have a target on your back.
1:23:53But like what? You're just going to hide your way through the show? No, the show rewards like pacifism. Like hiding and being forgotten about will get you far. And that I just think is the flaw in this show. Because the more interesting you are and the more vocal you are, the more likeliness that you won't last very long. Yeah, but also it protects you because the traders don't want to eliminate distractions. Yeah. But your fellow faithfuls will eliminate you because they're dumb as fuck. No, the roundtables are actually a sociological. sociological they are the stanford prison experiment like it is so fascinating to see how like in a group different personalities mesh and how like easy it is for people to just become so caught up in like actual like fantasy yeah it was really interesting and i agree more is giving nothing except for you know being carried around by rob which i ship wholeheartedly if more and rob fall in love then it will all have been worth it you're a traitor what is she gonna do when she out Rob is a traitor.
1:24:46I wonder if Rob will like sell out one of his own for his love, Maura. I also read something that I about Candace and Rob. Yes. That they're like not on good terms right now from like what happened. Because I was also thinking it would be who of a traitor to put up the name of a fellow traitor at the roundtable and get them eliminated. They're seen as a traitor. You know, so traitors will have to turn on each other at some point. And I think Rob is ready to run from these two. Not only that, but Rob is going to help his fellow traitor to a certain point and again he sees these like two cackling hags who are not taking it seriously and so he told her he did his due diligence it didn't sound like he wanted to fight that hard for lisa rin no and if he's been in the colton voting block this whole time he can't change his stance yeah yeah yeah i can't wait but every night bang gets into bed we have more traitors it's the best show yeah i know and it's like when i'm watching it i'm like oh these people there's a stupid this or the stupidity but then like when it ends I'm like I I feel a withdrawal yeah I really are the best part I would love to like binge it well you could binge last season I could but I don't want to get confused and it would be interesting to know are the people who are always the loudest never the traitors you know I just feel like also it's very different every year I think they choose different types of people and then also like different personalities mesh and like some seasons rewards the quiet people and some seasons don't yeah and I feel like for the faithfuls they can't really just go on what happened last season oh there was two gamers as traitors last season which means we got to get rid of the gamers like yeah you need a tabular asset it's almost better if you haven't watched because you don't have these preconceived notions of what it should be right and like rob watched and studied and knew a murder in plain sight was happening and he got his ass out like knowledge is not power right right justice for michael rapaport yeah and for the viewers because his presence will be missed conniving colluding commiserating colton and justice for tiffany oh that was devastating and like canis is like such an empath i actually like also felt really like i could see why she got so choked up was also just good for her image you know as a traitor yes but also i don't understand why tiffany voted for jam jam that night because the vote was between her and ron so why wouldn't you put more votes in the ron like she's a gamer That's like 101.
1:26:58You don't vote for the third party that has no chance. Well, first, oh, sorry. Your things are written down before you see anyone else's vote. Oh, I guess also there must be so much more roundtable discussion. I don't think they knew in that moment that she was going home. No, no, no. But it's like the people were targeting her and Ron. Why vote for someone that no one's really talking about? Maybe there was like a convo about Jam Jam. Unless there was extensive conversation about Jam Jam. Maybe there was and they cut it because it's uninteresting. Yeah. Okay, well, that's our show. Tomorrow has, we pushed your toasters to tomorrow because we've got to get this episode up.
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