Swiftielicious13: Friday, October 3rd, 2025

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0:21Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show The fast five things you need to know We'll start your day off swirly It's the toast I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Friday that feels like a Friday and a Monday combined because we are so accomplished. We are so clean. We have fasted. Actually, we'll get into that in a second. Happy Yom Kippur is the furthest away it'll ever be day. Hey, Jax, how you doing? Doing good. Happy 11th day of the new year. happy life of a showgirl day happy friday so much to celebrate on this lovely day and all i have to say is hey thank you for the lovely bouquet i just finished the album and that the first song and the last song are like my favorite songs but i love the breener song it's already in my head so the taylor album is going to be a story right yeah yeah so save thoughts because like i need to catch up with my swirly because we both had a big day yesterday i want to know how your atoning went because they haven't even caught up with you on a personal level.

1:27I actually don't know if we have had a pre-Fast 5 banter as chunky as this one's about to be. There is so much going on. And I was just saying to somebody, like, nothing in my life happens for six months and then six months happen in one week. Well, Luke Holmes has a song about it. It's called When It Rains, It Pours. Oh, yeah, duh. I thought it was like, does he have a new song about that? Does he have a new song about your air conditioning going out and having a baby? If it's okay with you, I actually have a list. I'm so overwhelmed. Okay. But could we start with Yom Kippur? Because I do want to know like how your fast was.

1:58That actually was second on my list. Not to be annoying because we kind of have big news, like big announcement news that I think should go first. Oh, I agree. Because if you're watching us today, you might be watching us on Spotify. Today is day one of our videos being available on Spotify. We've always been available to watch on YouTube. But now whether you're listening or watching, you could do both on Spotify. You could toggle between, right? Like, yes, I would actually recommend. I love our YouTubers Feel free to stay always Like, subscribe, comment Leave a message But Spotify's just been Parging it up So yeah We entered into a partnership With Spotify They have video Only for like Select podcasts And we have been selected And we're so excited And just like I feel like everything's Coming up toast recently I love Spotify's really doing the most With like They have a new comment section But only for actual listeners Like I think Spotify's doing the most I highly recommend Watching us on Spotify It's also super user friendly.

2:53But you can still watch on YouTube. Of course, nothing's changing. Just like more places for you to get toasty vibes and swirliness. We are so excited to be doing this with Spotify. For what? Like the foreseeable future, you know? Yeah. And you can like listen to music. Then the toast is on. Go stream toast. Watch us. Life of a showgirl. Toast. Life of a showgirl. Toast. Oh, no toast drop. Let me pause the album. And my favorite thing about Spotify and listening to podcasts on Spotify is like if I start listening on my phone and then like I get in my car, like it picks up from where I left off.

3:20and also I know a lot of swirlies like to watch us on tv and it's so easy on the spotify app if you have like an apple tv or a roku or whatever so more places to see us being pargelicious definicious in premium high quality I should have like worked harder on my makeup today um knowing that like we're now on video spotify what are we getting like 10 million streams but we're still gonna be us we're still the same girls so I feel like you should yeah we're still fat and don't worry you should still be yourself you know I need to stop speaking on behalf of both of us when I'm like insulting myself.

3:50Right, because I got a new set. I'm on a weight loss journey. Right, right, right. Sorry. Not me like bringing you down with me. I got like a new maternity set from The Gap and I've obviously lost a bit of weight. So clearly I'm looking really good. No, and it's a perfect day for you to launch on Spotify because this is probably the best you've ever looked. Right, the thinnest I've ever been. Yeah. That's my favorite joke about myself right now. Me too. Like I'm on a weight loss. About myself. I'm on a weight loss journey. Me too. Snatch season. So I needed to get that out of the way. Let me cross that off my list.

4:27Spotify, goodbye. Now we can talk about yesterday, which was the holiest day of the year. We were gone. Sorry for being gone, but not sorry because we were struggling. And let me tell you, I struggled. I heard a bit. What happened to you? Oh my God, it was not okay. So as you guys know, I spoke to the rabbi's wife and I was like, what do I do about breastfeeding and fasting? and she was like, try to make it to one o 'clock. You can do little things, like have a little bit of water. And when me and Ben were on our way to synagogue, I actually ran into a girl in my lobby who I know from high school, and she was like, are you breastfeeding, by the way?

4:59And I was like, yeah, she's like, be careful. The last time I fasted while breastfeeding, I ended up in the hospital. And I was like, wait, really? And let me tell you, I understand how she ended up in the hospital. I almost ended up in the hospital, and I barely made it. So you fasted up until, like you were fasting. I was fasting, except I did have some water and like a little bit of yogurt. Like I just needed to sustain. I was like trying to be really measured. I went to synagogue. I get home. I left synagogue and I was not feeling well. I get home. And if I made it home three seconds later, I would have died.

5:28Like I got the most insane migraine. I could not see. I was like seeing spots and I just had to like chug a water. I had to break it. I didn't even care. I was so unwell. And I guess I didn't realize like you really can get dehydrated like so quickly when you're breastfeeding. Yeah. I should have taken it more seriously. Like the girl's warning in my lobby. Like I just, I should have taken it more seriously. So then you broke your fast and then you didn't fast the rest of the day. I tried to like not be a slob and eat all day long. Same, I wasn't like sitting on the couch like eating bags of chips.

5:58Like I tried to eat eggs, like whole foods like that were just to really nourish me. Yeah, so by the time it came time to breakfast, like I was pretty hungry, but I wasn't like dying. I could eat. Yeah, I still had like two bagels. I had one bagel, but I did have like breakfast. but I tried to be just like breakfast, lunch, dinner, not like snacking. Yeah. And not like indulgent. Yeah. Not just like, I still wanted to suffer. Like the whole point of the day is to like really suffer stripped down. And you know what? Let me tell you, I was suffering. I had a terrible headache. Yeah. I didn't get the Yom Kipp headache, which was major for me.

6:30I couldn't really handle that. I would have had it for three days. Obviously I'm not going to take any pain relievers. So it just would have been really bad. So I felt good about that. And then I tried to like not watch TV. I just read instead. Zach, I did watch a little TV because we started The New Love is Blind. But halfway through the episode, I was like, I don't feel like watching anymore. And I went to bed. He finished watching. So I didn't really even watch TV yesterday. I like read and I wasn't on my phone, which was a pleasure. It was a pleasure. Although like the food was hard staying off of my phone.

6:59Like it's crazy how many times a day I like thought to pick up my phone. Like it's truly an addiction. no I was so I had actually been looking forward to turning it off for 25 hours knowing that like my loved ones were also turning theirs off so I wasn't right the fam chat popping off because that's why that's why my phone buzzes all the time like fam chat's gonna fam chat I love your chat fam speaking of shows and you and Zach I have a show for you to watch last night Ben and I watched only first two episodes are out which is so fucking annoying but I don't know if you've heard about Glenn Powell's new show Chad Powers I have I literally watched it I was like Zach wine rib will love this and it's like you'll like it too because like len is just cute and funny um you have to watch it like it's such a husband and wife show i know he didn't set out to make a show like perfect for a husband and a wife but it ben was cackling like it's so boy humor it's very like adam sandler coded and i just liked it because i enjoy a good stuff but it's really for the boys ben was dying zach will love it okay great well now we're watching love is blind colorado just started out yeah it's out I think like the first three episodes at least uh I didn't even make it through the first one yet but people seem you know cogent employed attractive love that no aggos no I mean I'm not gonna call someone ugly on the 11th day of the year after I've just been for like everything I've ever said and done and they also don't that's like the problem with the show is like they don't cast people who are like crazy looking yeah yeah no but I was actually in In the 30 minutes that I watched, I was impressed with the level of employment.

8:31Like people have jobs. So important that we like give employed people platforms. Yeah. Because that's also like that throws an interesting dynamic into the mix when you have someone with a big job. Like so it was giving heavily employed and I'm happy for that. And you're not going to catch me talking about people's looks the day after Yom Kippur. No, no, of course not. The show is young. So it was like a tough day, even though like I didn't fast. day I was really suffering the entire day which I think is like kind of God's plan yeah so I feel like I did what I was supposed to do but just know like I was genuinely suffering and did you feel like you atoned for your sins like did you pray hard I did I went to synagogue um you know I saw the girlies because everybody like you know shows up for synagogue and I saw like my my bitches um and like we were congregating like during breaks and it was so hard not to gossip like I I can't lie.

9:22Like we did veer into gossip territory, but we were acknowledging that it was wrong. That's good. The first step is acceptance. A thousand percent. Accepting you of a problem. No, I definitely do. That's really funny. You know, I got to pray. They had actually really good like programming for the kids so that like the parents could like pray and say, and like apologize, you know, because I couldn't have done that like with toddlers. So I actually got like a lot of my prayers in, which felt really good. Love that for you. Yeah. and I needed that to cleanse myself I um if I may just for the sake of like continuity can I switch to the next thing on my list yeah sure that's a really continuous way to do it okay like kind of me being so crazy Jackie alluded to this on the Patreon when she said I was quite literally moving in silence I moved I just wanted to tell everyone I didn't want to like make a big deal about it because everybody would be like are you moving to Florida no I'm not I just moved like I need a little bit more space it's like not a big deal she actually is moving and she's going to keep moving and she's like further and further away yeah i just moved like in the city it's like really not a big deal you know roadway crushed it i literally while i was at the toast on monday they packed up my entire apartment in 35 seconds you know how they do they were so mama friendly like they're like they left the crib overnight they let me nurse in the other room like they were really i could tell like diego who um was the manager of the move he told me he has an eight-year-old like he was such a mama friendly mover um and of course if you want to use my code girl with no job 10 it'll get you 10 % off local moves 5 % off long distance moves actually not to be annoying people have been asking for my roadway code it's probably the most requested code I get from like yeah we've been working with roadway for years every move I've ever done has been with roadway studio they just moved this studio too yeah they move everything so I'm really excited for you you want to tell us anything about the move or you're just gonna like say that and move on like I know it's just like it's not a big deal I moved like I'm kind of like living in limbo right now um there was a flood and like this new apartment's like not ready and I'm just like you know I'm so carefree you know that's me and my me and my truck full of stuff um and Ben is now like Ben's been howling me to like spend like a chunk of time in LA because like the good guys and it just like would make his life so much easier and he's like this is like one of the last times we could ever do it like Ruby's not in school and um like we if we have a million kids like we can't do it and Ben like the apartment needs to be like painted he's like let's go to LA I'm like today he said no let's go next week we'll stay for a month he's so LA I know I'm actually worried I'm actually down except that like I'm genuinely worried about the person my husband will become because Ben is like a toxic like a stage mom almost with me okay he's like we gotta get you out there like going on an audition I'm like okay stop he's seriously like one of those toxic managers like an Elvis yeah except he's not stealing from me that I know of um and I worry about like what Ben will become but I also think if he ever spent a significant amount of time in LA for Ben's self because like good guy like josh is in la like well it's gonna be great for ben and like there's a lot of creators and like he's always he loves collaborating with fellow creators like that's one thing about him um i think he's selling it to me as like it'll be really good for the good guys and you're also going on maternity leave he's like you could interview a lot of people it's so hard to book guests in new york he's really selling me on it um and i like i agree with him there's a lot of good reasons that we should go especially now like it's probably one of the last times we could ever just like pick up and be carefree and spontaneous but um i just know like something bad's gonna happen like Ben is gonna get like hooked on Hollywood and he's gonna be like there's gonna be a documentary there's gonna be a documentary about like Ben Soffer going to LA Ben Soffer celebrity Ben Soffer like crackhead oh my gosh and like I think also this might be like a gateway drug for him like not that you guys are ever gonna move to LA no like not in a real way not in a right like move for real like live yeah um but I I could see him trying he's just giving me a lot of good reasons like I don't I don't know what to say to him like our apartment is really not ready it's not super livable and it's like not great for rubes and like yeah your maternity leave like I'm starting to book people in New York and let me tell you it's bottom of the barrel no offense to everybody I've booked there's just like not a lot of people yeah um and like yeah it'd be great to see our partners at dear media like all these things but like I have to get up I don't know well one thing about me and you that's like different about us we have a couple core differences yes one of those is that I love LA you don't you've never really taken to the city of angels but like when you tell me you're going to LA for a month I'm like as you should the annoying thing is that like you if like you were coming I would be so down I'd be like yeah let's all go oh well let's all go anywhere yeah so like your pregnancy is not great timing for me because like if we all went that would be so much fun and then I would be like so down that would be so fun I know I know Like be like office girls So just like if you catch me in LA Just like don't ask okay I'm just like trying to be a good wife And also like it's something that you should do Like in Your life as a creator In my lifetime I know I know it would be good for like the toast And for Ben and for the good guys Not that like you're like moving Out of New York anytime soon or ever Like by the way No I would move out of New York Like people are like would you move to Florida Like probably not but like maybe I'm not totally against it I would never full-time live in LA.

14:38Well, now you'll find out. I could just see you being taken with it. It would be like Downton. I know. Me and Ben, like seriously, you're going to find us like on the side of the street. Like we've sold all of our money. You're going to be like in front of the Hollywood side. Literally. No, I'm telling you. I'm actually really excited for you. I'm excited for the content and like the change of scenery. I love, you know, I love change. I love change of scenery. Like who's afresh? I'm really excited. Yeah. And it's also getting really cold here. Ben keeps selling me on the weather. And I'm like, what are you?

15:04The weatherman? He's like, think of the weather. I like it. But like the cold is a plus. Oh, but also the air conditioning being out in my building and they're starting to do construction in the studio. Like I'm telling you, Ben is not giving me one good reason to say no. And it's getting harder to podcast here with all like the plumbing issues. So I might just need to like seriously hail Mary and fuck it. You know, you totally have my support. Thank you. And you know, I can't make any decision, especially like a big life one without Jackie telling me. So when I called her to, I'm like, Ben wants us to move to LA for a while.

15:32She's like, that's an amazing idea. Yeah. And I hadn't even thought about the maternity leave. I work for Lish. I'm excited you to - By the way, recently you've been a Lish op. I know, but that's like, I think what's so great about me, because so often like people try to like start stuff between me and Lish, like thinking that like I'm coming for him or whatever. But like, no, like sometimes I just, I don't have like, I'm not so hard headed. Like sometimes Lish and I, we're simpatico. You've been taking Lish's side a lot. I just want to say, especially with the food processor. And the Ryder Cup.

16:00It's still in the box. And the Ryder Cup. I sent you there. And the sourdough. Yeah, right. I think a lot of people think you unless you have beef because he copied your sourdough journey. Although he does credit you 100%. I will never. That's not beef worthy. Yeah. Ben made two loaves. Just wanted to tell you when he forgot to put salt in them. I didn't realize how important of an ingredient salt was. I was actually eating paper. That's really crazy. The consistency was amazing. and I said to Ben, is it possible that this loaf tastes like nothing? He's like, oh my God, I forgot to put in salt.

16:38Interesting. Good to know that that's what happens. Like you'll get a loaf that looks visually perfect. It was his best loaf to date visually. Oh my God, tasteless. Major strides. Is he going to bring his bread supplies to LA? That's another reason I don't want to go. Like I just don't want to have to deal with traveling. Like it's already hard to like get on a plane with a baby. Now we also take your sourdough starter. Seriously, no, I'm not. I wonder if he'll take his starter. And my breast milk. like yeah well we'll take your breasts i will be taking my breasts but i'd also like to bring like a stash i looked into this company called milk stork milk stork milk stork everybody said it's amazing it's 10 million dollars they're like but my work covers it so um this is me asking if my work if i could pay for it if i could just like ship like 100 ounces how much is it like a lot of money like four or five hundred dollars like that's insane i guess you could put in to finance department see what they say yeah I'll see what I'll run it by Bruno great um in terms of my list that is it okay now feel free to just like Kiki what's up what's you know what's up what's with you well I finished my book huge it wasn't very good but I did finish it and it did sort of hook me but like the protagonist was just god awful so I just I wouldn't really recommend it or anything but I was proud to finish a book.

17:57I got the new Kindle Color Soft. Gifted. What's that? Color. Hashtag gifted? Hashtag gifted. Yeah, Amazon sent it to me. Oh, okay, Amazon. I didn't get one. I just want to say that. Yeah, like we are influential. We are like huge in the reading community and the tech space and Amazon understands that. So the new Color Soft, you would actually like it because it's the shape of the Oasis that you're always trying to get. Okay, and so like the background is white instead of gray when you're reading? Yeah, but also like when you're lock screen they have like art on the lock and like there's colors but when you're reading you don't need colors so right it's just black and white but like when you're on your home page all the titles of books yeah yeah so that's nice um I didn't like need it so bad but I like the shape of the oasis and I was using the scribe for a while so it's nice to go back to the smallie would recommend if you're getting a kindle yeah I remember like the first time I opened my kindle I was incredibly shocked that it was like analog.

18:54There's no color. And when I would like recommend to people to switch to Kindle, they'd be like opening it. Like, are you serious? It's giving like Oregon trail, even Oregon trail had color. And it is really crazy that we all just like, it's so old school, the Kindle, even though it's like the premium device. And so it was time that they enter the color game. Yeah. But I don't even think you need the colors. And it's like, if you really want to like read on an led screen, like you could use an iPad, but that's not even right. Like you don't want the blue light. I like the Kindle as it is. No, and you don't want the reflection.

19:23You can't read on an iPad at the beach. Yeah, no, the Kindle, like I know that it doesn't seem like much, but I think it's actually very well thought out. It doesn't keep you up. The light isn't really bright. I think it's fab. So I was excited to read and finish my book, but that's about it with moi, self, with Jack's self. Okay. And then it's Fry Dairies, which is so exciting. Oh my God. It's so not Friday energy. And I have like a lot to do today. um i bought some steaks the other day okay i went to the kosher grocer i don't know i'm just like feeling like i need to be eating steaks it's good everybody gets iron deficient during pregnancy right like harry's been really into steaks so like i'm like let's make some steaks growing boys so i have some steaks in the fridge i think i have to make steaks for dinner okay we're having i guess we're having steak for dinner yeah and then of course i've got to make potatoes oh if you're making a steak especially like a really juicy one and you're not giving it to me with like a side of creamy mashed potatoes where I could literally put a dollop almost like sour cream like a dollop of tater on every bite of steak then don't make steak honestly yeah so I think that's what's in store for me tonight oh I gotta talk to my chef we like barely have a functioning kitchen so um time to get out the food processor time to make a thanksgiving dinner in his dorm literally I had one more thing

20:50what was my thing i don't remember well we have a lot to do stories wise today taylor's i can't believe we've been podcasting for 20 minutes taylor's i've dropped a new album and we didn't talk about it we mentioned in the beginning to say that we were going to mention it's obviously the first story um also we're all like just coming to ourselves here it's like not even now for 12 hours like so we can only do so much with what we have and that's sort of my thesis So if you're ready to dive in, I would like to tell everyone to calm down. I just want everyone to calm down. You need to calm down.

21:18Without further ado to do to do, here are the Fast Five stories that you to do need to know. That is true. And just if you'll give me a second with my list. The Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by AT &T. Few things are better than when somebody's already on it. Like AT &T. Staying connected matters. That's why AT &T has connectivity that you can depend on guaranteed. Or they'll proactively make it right. No calls, no chaos, no, can I speak to a person, please? Energy. Just handled. That's the AT &T Guarantee. Terms and conditions apply. Visit att.com slash guarantee for details.

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23:08and I do really like a cleansing balm. I think it's one of the most effective ways to wash your face. Sometimes when you wash your face, so when you want to like really get off the makeup, the dirt from the day, you're left with like this dry, crusty face. It's like, yeah, all your makeup's off, but what do you have left? Like three skin cells. The way it leaves your face is really parchy. Discover the butter way to cleanse with Origins Utopia Apple Butter Cleansing Balm. It's available now at origins.com and Ulta. Thank you, Turta. You're welcome, Turta. Our first story, Taylor Swift's album, in the life of a showgirl drop last night 12 songs um let's kind of go song by song overall impression what are you thinking koji okay i just want to say song by song it's been 12 hours everybody needs to calm the fuck down but if you have an initial impression of the melody the lyrics or the message just let me know sure here's the thing i woke up and i didn't stay up till midnight because i went to bed at like 9 30 with a full belly and a wide smile i woke up this morning to so much hate hate hate hate hate from the album like even from like true swifties like everybody's hating it so my expectations when i tuned in were hella low i don't know what the hell everyone's talking about it's a good album and i've listened to it one time in full like how much time do you bitches have like i was expecting like such a piece of shit like the way people were describing it even like true stans whose like names are swifties licious 13 like i love your delicious swifty so i was like wow she's finally flopped like everybody said it's bad oh my god what the hell are you bitches talking about some of the shit people like from other artists like oh my god crap this is so good like it's a good album and i haven't really even had time to fully digest it lyrically sonically i was walking to work popping my pussy like what the hell are you guys talking about yeah i do think i agree with you like compared to what other people are putting out these days like she's not comparable but i'm pp poo poo i'm comparing taylor to taylor if that's fair also i feel like like kind of like a bigger swifty than you today because like i like you did more work than me i woke up immediately started listening like i'm sorry i've moved my husband wants me to move across the country i have a four month old like can i get a minute no man there's so much pressure i feel this always with taylor albums yeah i felt pressure to like give us your rankings it's been 30 seconds and have an opinion just like have something to say on the show today because today is such a big day but I do hope that by Monday I have new things to say same my overall impression are there a couple of standout songs to me that I'm like this is fun I like this same this is a new message so like the fate of Ophelia is actually really adorable because the fate of Ophelia I think she commits suicide um but she's saying how Travis saved her from the fate of Ophelia like with his love and his energy and his exuberance.

25:53Yes, I like it too. And not to make everything about us, it does feel like a toast episode and specifically a clip of ours that went viral about how like her life was so sad with Joe. Like if you listen, even my favorite song, Peace, it's like, girl, it's not that deep. Like you're pretty and rich and skinny, like be happy. Everything was so sad and so serious. And Travis just like totally removed that whole element from her life. Like, and it's literally that TikTok sound. You know what it never was? That serious. like I do feel like it was extremely toast coated but I make everything about myself sorry so I like the song I like the beat and I liked the message and it felt like she was like saying something new that we haven't heard before like a fresh a fresh take so that was a standout for me for sure agreed and a great opener for the album so when I heard that first I'm like what is everyone talking about it's a good song yeah then Elizabeth Taylor which the most memorable thing about it is that it sounded exactly like our prediction.

26:46Don't worry. Like I will be clipping that today side by side of me accurately. Yeah. Saying Elizabeth Taylor. Elizabeth Taylor. Like literally me. But beyond that, nothing else stuck for me. It was giving Evelyn Hugo, which is like very Elizabeth Taylor coded. Yeah, sure. I just think that Taylor, and this is a theory of mine, I think that's Taylor's favorite book. You'll have to ask her. Champagne Problems is totally about that song. um I think a lot of people like obviously like the gayler of it all thinks that Taylor and Carly and like I think Taylor like loves that book yeah I mean who doesn't like even if she didn't relate to it like if she as long as she's read it she's loved it yeah Opalite is actually one of my favorites I don't know what the streets are saying about it um oh and also that's another thing why I feel like I'm like such a a positive Swiftie days I haven't read any commentary got it from like Twitter, Instagram.

27:41I haven't seen anyone's opinions. These are only my opinions. And then like I didn't know that people are saying that it's a flop or anything. I really wanted to experience it on my own. So like I opened Twitter and it was like trending Taylor Swift album divided reviews. So all statements are my own. Retweets are not endorsements. I agree. Opalite is my favorite so far. It's also the one that I've seen on TikTok. Like the sound is going viral. It has like a real pussy popping element to it. Love. And it's not about Kelly Taylor and the ring she gave her, unfortunately. No, it's not. It's just about Taylor's self, which we love, to learn self.

28:17And she quotes her mom. Like, not Andrew, so I have to constantly be an analyst. And her brother, eating from the trash. Oh, I loved that. But maybe she learned of the color of opalite from the ring that Kelly gave her and then said the sky is like opalite. Yeah, maybe like it just sparked an interest in the stone. Okay. Okay. Next, father figure, which I personally want to group with eldest daughter is like two randoms. Agreed, by the way. They kind of blend into one another, too, when you're listening to them. And actually, father figure just stood out to me because I'm like, who is this about?

28:51Now, I asked our Swifty chat and the theory is Olivia Rodrigo. Yeah. And I think Taylor has a lot of music about Olivia Rodrigo that she blankets in talking about like the future of the music industry. There's always someone younger, hotter, better. But she's really talking about Olivia Rodrigo. Yeah, this is about like someone who reminded her of her. She tried to be nice to her. She mistook her kindness for weakness. You had a lot of potential, but like go fuck yourself. Yeah. Now the only irony here. Oh, and it's in a song that she's sampling. right and olivia rodrigo's tale and taylor's whole big thing was that some of uh the songs on olivia rodrigo's album like sampled or referenced on illegally and then she had to end up paying taylor swift and that's why the two aren't friends anymore or like literally their enemies and so that's a song father figure where she samples george michael's father figure so yeah yeah but i just want to say whatever happened between them is so much more than the new year's day fiasco because like that was just like bad business whatever but what she's saying in this song like it's much more personal and i think it is for both of them like i think they both fucking hate each other yeah eldest daughter i don't remember that was a weird one for me and that was like a track five which i think people put so much pressure on taylor has historically put her like deepest most all too well like most serious um and then eldest daughter you know it sounds like and it didn't sonically sound like what i thought it would sound like given the title or say what did it say i don't remember i don't remember either and i'm just going off of my memory um which just will go to show you what's memorable ruin the friendship was not at all about what anyone thought it was going to be about like it was obviously getting telly teller blake lively but it's about like a boy yeah i don't remember it's like about i should have kissed you even though you had a girlfriend okay okay spicy spicy then actually romantic which people are thinking is a dig at charlie xcx it's not thinking like it literally is they had spec they speculated before given the title um i think actually romantic i don't remember exactly how is like a reference to charlie xcx so people thought this was going to be a diss track and then you listen to it and it's literally a diss track she basically calls her co-core like it was so crazy um charlie xcx like has been very outwardly critical of taylor um they're like there's beef there on charlie's side um charlie went on and opened for taylor on one of the biggest tours ever the reputation tour and then quickly after like said something really like rude about it in an interview claiming that she felt like she was performing for five-year-olds um okay and she's also like very much team maddie and gabriette that's her best friend then right then there was this big photo shoot she did with like a severed hand and the hand had friendship bracelets on it and yes of course Taylor Swift didn't invent friendship bracelets but in the context of cultural music it was weird right after that Charlie Taylor was actually asked about Charlie and she said something really glowing and actually really smart of Taylor because that was like during the height of Brat and it would just not have been smart for her to Taylor's already accused of like not being a woman who supports other artists so like it would have just been bad so Taylor said something like amazing about her songwriting but then there is the uh charlie xcx actually just got married but she's been with him for a while to a member of the 1975 she's best friends with gabriette who's maddie healy's fiance so it's always been like connected in that way um but taylor had not responded negatively to her ever since then um until this song and it references sympathy as a knife which is a song people think charlie wrote about taylor and i've been ready for Taylor to say something about it because I don't ride with Charlie XCX and I ride with Taylor and I think that ever I have not liked Charlie XCX ever since that reputation thing it was like such a rude comment because yeah Charlie's big right now but she was working hard for many years and Taylor was extremely generous in letting her open for her on the reputation tour I didn't really feel like it was a good match honestly um so actually to go back and say something nasty especially about Taylor's fans which Taylor takes so personally that she rides for her fans poorly on you you've just alienated yourself from like millions of people but so in the song she's kind of saying like you're kind of in love with me it's actually romantic like how like obsessed with me you are right it's giving like why are you so obsessed when i was listening to it i assumed it was about like a man and i thought it was maddie healy but it's kind of the same thing it's kind of the same thing but it's it's about for sure about charlie she's not even trying i feel like she doesn't even try anymore with like the girls that she hates to like like you know uh the letters Kim spelling out in uh thank you Amy she doesn't she's not trying to hide anymore that was weird so it was weird when she made those letters like we know we listen to the song like you're talking about a girl with a lot of sisters like we know and next um next song actually is another title with some dollar signs wish list and people are saying um wish list and canceled are two of the worst songs on the album I haven't decided which songs I think are the worst I'll let you know those were not my worst uh what I want to say about wishlist is um it was it was like a weird listening experience there were highs and lows but what I got from it what I got from it was that she wants to have a lot of kids and like the surrogates do any day right a lot of people think like now she's thinking about wanting a house with a basketball in the driveway like you could have a basketball court but okay that's so cute she you you could have the like full court press out back you don't need to put it like on your garage but okay literally full court press at like all courts you can have like but anyways they're gonna have kids Claudia that's what she said of course they are we know they are no but we've been unsure at times right like I don't know how it fits in with her schedule but she said like she wants a gaggle of them obsessed so that's what I took away from wishlist yeah love that um then wood double entendre yeah it was actually uh I liked how she went out with wood because it was about like I don't have to knock on wood like I don't have to like worry and jinx oh hope that doesn't happen like you know I can just enjoy because it's very like a superstitious thing knock on wood yeah I think we were all like what does wood mean how is wood being used in a song is it like a tree or a penis and yes I agree it being knock on wood I love yeah but I do think she could have called it like knock on wood and it would have been less confusing but I think she wanted a song called wood yeah and she's funny like that that's like Travis's influence like haha wood you know totally um and that song people are saying sounds like jackson five is that the what the streets are saying yeah so what the streets are saying which is like not great for tailored is that there's two songs on the album that really sound a little too similar to other songs they're saying that wood sounds like a jackson five song and that the sabrina carpenter song sounds like cool by the jonas brothers and um which it wouldn't be a big deal because like a lot of songs sound like other songs but you know taylor we were just talking about like olivia rodrigo like she's a credit queen she's queen of credit queen of credit so i don't know how that's gonna pan out what's the jackson five song i forgot because i i um i'm usually pretty good at hearing songs within other songs um it's kind of like a special jonas brothers cool i didn't hear it but i will listen again but it is kind of a special skill of mine so i'll let you guys know where it lands on the Yeah.

36:04On the radar. Then we have canceled, which I liked elements of. Yeah. I heard people saying it sucks. Really? And I like the line. All my friends are canceled. Literally saying. No. And also like and I like you better if you're canceled. Yeah. You're complex. You've been through things. But it's interesting that she puts this out now and that this is her feeling on her friends being canceled when like Blake Lively is going through it. right right there was not a lot of blake lively here at least how i experienced it in this moment yeah unless um i think i saw like a publication speculate that ruin the friendship was about her but it's about kissing a boy why would she be kissing blake lively

36:50anyways canceled um it was there were highs and lows there were moments of joy there were there was a couple lyrics that were my favorite it sounded like a little bit look what you made me do which i love yeah but when i remember when i first heard look what you made me do i was like what and that's the thing people don't understand taylor's constantly like doing new things that we're not used to so when you hear it the first time it sounds weird and bad but then it becomes like the standard for other people in the music industry so like your first listen to a taylor album is never really an accurate review i agree with that because a lot of times like she's doing new things right I don't feel like on this album she's really doing new things I don't think she would say she's doing new things this like they said on new heights like this is banger season it's blank space it's max martin it's pop music I don't think that's something that it's like oh well you just don't get it yet no so here's the thing and I think what a big mistake was like I think Travis like really overhyped the album in a sense of like the beats per minute his taste right like we know he loves the max martin 1989 blank space is his favorite song it's the most commercially pop song so when we heard max martin was back on the album and travis is obsessed with it and it's so travis and it's bangers they said banger season

38:11it i think it just put into everyone's minds like a different version of what this album was going to be and that doesn't mean that this album is not as good it's just not what we thought it was gonna be I feel like it was a little misleading agreed and something else that's been misleading is the fact that I don't know what the title of the album has to do with the album because this is not what I was expecting about the life of a showgirl especially as she described it on new heights like all about like the behind the scenes when you go behind the curtain like I thought we were gonna get like 12 versions of I could do it with a broken heart like to me I can do it with a broken heart is like the epitome of the life of a showgirl and I thought we were gonna get like takes on that but this is more about like her new relationship love that stuff like some of the friendship stuff you know just like some industry stuff not really anything about the heiress tour except this song with breener which i listened to once and i loved and it's called life of a show girl yes agreed that's a really good song too that's a good point i guess the life of a show girl isn't like a bad name for the album except that she said it's really about behind the scenes of the eras tour which now i feel like i maybe need to re-listen and all of these are just preliminary thoughts if you guys don't agree yes that's fine our thoughts are subject to change and my faves now are gonna be different and things that i didn't like are gonna hit me different so all subject change we're going off of initial thoughts like we're just doing a show 12 hours after the the album drop like let us live give me a break i've only been here for two fucking days um yeah so it does like the life of a showgirl just the five words does feel all-encompassing she is a showgirl she's got a public life a personal life and so yeah but she has said now like many times that it's about like pulling the curtain behind of this big tour I need to re-listen honestly like it's just too early yeah but I wasn't getting a sense of the life of a showgirl from this album but I like all the imagery and the concept for the album so like go off um but the album the songs just like didn't feel like that we have also gotten so much imagery like she obviously did either like one big photo shoot with like a million outfit changes or like a thousand different photo shoots we've gotten so many images so many alternative covers so many vinyls and i just want to say every picture i've seen and i keep seeing pictures on twitter i've never seen before every one is better than the one she chose just saying and when she explained why she chose this one i really gave grace because she was like okay it's about the bathtub not on stage not as a show right but considering the album has very little to do with like the showiness like she could have chosen really any picture i also just think like our level of critique is so crazy right we everyone holds Taylor to like the highest standard I've never the bath like we're so in the weeds here like in the minutiae but this is where she wants us we let I know but we just let other artists get away with such like average Joe behavior yeah agreed but like we don't hype them up or talk about them like as much as we do her like with great power comes great responsibility like it's all agreed at this high level um which is why no one else puts out an album on the day she's like you know what I mean like we've cleared the decks so it's true um the other song that we didn't mention right before life of a showgirl is honey um i haven't i can't lie i don't even remember what song it is like it's all so new here it was like you could call me honey because i'm your honey honey like seriously call us on monday like yeah call monday um those are initial thoughts and hopefully we get more just like imagery did the music video come out?

41:30I feel like probably. Did it? Oh, but the movie theater thing. Lyric video. I must have missed the lyric video. And she went on Graham Norton. I didn't get a chance to watch it. She said she's having a big wedding. She shared a couple of anecdotes. Of course, she was just being her swirly self. She drank two glasses of wine. A sancerre, if anybody's wondering. Yummy. Yeah, she's an al fresco sancerre kind of girl. Yummo. Yummo. So that's Tiloaste. yeah I don't feel like today is T-Lowass day like I really feel like Monday is I'm gonna take like a couple of walks over the weekend really put in the work I added Opalite and Briner to my liked um Opalite and Ophelia and I'll add Ophelia too I really liked that um the message I really I care about the lyrics I'm not just a surface lyrics kind of person no neither am I especially because she cares about the lyrics so like she you better be listening she's not just saying doo-wop you know doo-wop da ba doo-wop not to shade hansen i didn't mean for them to catch astray in this conversation they ate down with that song because sometimes when the melody's so good we don't give a fuck about the lyrics so true like some of the worst songs some of the best songs have three words yeah like gangham style correct just like gangham style So tune in on Monday for like a even deeper expose.

43:02Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. The story of Lori. Lori Loughlin. I was shocked. This was the first thing I saw when I opened my phone. I was like, I wonder what big news broke while I was off my phone during Yom Kippur. I was not expecting this devastation. Lori Loughlin and Massimo Giannuli separate after nearly 28 years of marriage. I stand with Lori. I don't know what happened, but I'm team Lori. Of course. I'm upset about this they've obviously been through a lot together 28 years two children seem to be a beautiful college admission scandal yeah like never wavered you just you hate to see it like especially on the heels of like Keith and Nicole and I didn't even know that like we had to worry about these two that this was even an option I don't like it I don't like it either I'm extremely shocked really because I don't know how you make it through something as tough as the college admission scandal which seriously was now in hindsight like so blown out of proportion like literally she went to jail how you get through all of that and like now it's over now it's easy yikes unless there's like resentment unless you don't want to like admit defeat until you know because people would always say it was about that and they got to them right right maybe that's that i don't know or not to sound like i always do but i mean it differently this time like i actually i feel like they might come back together no i don't i actually don't feel that way at all they are living apart right now there are no legal proceedings underway well there's a lot of money there people don't realize that her husband is a billionaire um like all the clothes at target are made by him like massimo massimo he's so rich yeah i hope olivia is doing okay yeah obviously she's been going through this like the last few months right with her own relationship troubles like correct i feel like people are just like not even thinking about her oh i'm one thing about me i'm always thinking about olivia jade one thing about us i'll hear a story and i'll say how does this affect olivia jade i just feel like people just see her and they just like they don't worry but i worry about my girl she's been through a lot no and actually like your parents getting divorced later in life is low-key harder to go very destabilizing yes than like a teenager kids just like bounce back you know you figure it out yeah oh look i got two you know stuffed animals for mom's house and dad's house Like you figure it out.

45:17Yeah. It's hard at any age. And then you're like having like your own romantic endeavors. It is destabilizing. That's a perfect word. Yeah. Changes how you see the world. Right. Like everything you thought you knew. Maybe you didn't know. Correct. So just like really brokenhearted about this. Really not much else to say. No tea as of yet. Hopefully there's none. Hopefully she doesn't go and call her daddy. and tell everyone that Massimo's penis is crooked. That's what we call a self-reference. Devastating, just truly devastating. Yes, are you ready for our next story? If it's our next story, that's brought to you by A &T.

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