Tenured Podcasters with Joey Camasta: Thursday, May 29th, 2025

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25:29Quince.com slash toast. So yes, for your dad, for your husband, for your friend. It's my first father's day. It's your first father's day. And I know that you would love a European silk polo from Quince. I just know it. I would love that. Our first story, Elf Beauty will acquire Haley Bieber's skincare brand, Rode, for$1 billion. So this was amongst the big news of the day. Yesterday, Haley Bieber's skincare company and makeup, it's a bit of a flex company, Rode, sold for$1 billion to Elf Beauty. So it's about$800 million in cash. I know, we're just so shook over here. $800 million in cash and then another$200 million that will come if they hit some goals along the way.

26:11So, Haley Bieber, more or less, Billionaire's Club. Billion Dollar Bieber. Billion Dollar Bieber and not Justin. Yeah. So, she's worth more than him. See, you know what? Okay, here's my opening statement thoughts on this is, good for you, sis. I did not see that coming, though. I know that the first, I think the first, like, influencer-style celebrity billion-dollar cosmetic brand was Kylie. Agreed, that's how I remember it. Or maybe Fenty, but they were around the same time. Correct. lip kits and things like that. I'm not saying I didn't see I didn't see Rode I think that I think Kelly Bieber is capable of doing anything she puts her mind to.

26:50I think she's fabulous. I think she's genuine and a good person. I think I love I like her. I thought the Rode based on the products I've tried and things like that. I think the products were that were that popular and that like globally I don't think everyone's that globally influenced to buy it as much as they were buying Kylie's. Interesting. I love the products like even this morning I think I'm wearing three road products in my everyday and like I'm not being paid to say that. So I'm not surprised that it's successful because it's good stuff. But I did not realize the scale of it. The magnitude.

27:20That it could be a billion dollars. And I think I saw somewhere she more or less has 10 products. So this is a billion dollar valuation for a brand with 10 products. Like that's massive. What each product is worth$100 million. It's crazy. I try the skincare. But I think the thing with the skincare is I'm an old lady. So it's like, you know, I need, you know, she has beautiful ingredients and the peptides and all the good things in her skin, the milks and all those things. But when you get to my age, you know, I need a deep face lift. I need the Kris Kardashian. Yeah. So they weren't bad products.

27:51I just think I needed something more medicinal for myself. Yeah, you needed more. I think what I also like about Rota is like sometimes when the girlies do skincare, like even Kylie Skin, and I love Kylie, and I'm going to say a bad word about her, but I do feel old for Kylie Skin. Like I do need more. And I think I had the same reaction when I tried that stuff. I'm like, oh, this is nice if you're 18 and like you don't need heavy lift. Yes. But it'll hydrate your skin and it'll take care of your skin. But like I need more. What I liked about Rode is I felt like it's the right amount for me. Like it's not too thick.

28:18It's not too medicinal. I don't want – because also I love to use the good stuff like a little La Mer. Yeah. But then what will I use as I get older if I'm already using the old lady products now? They'll be – my skin will build up a tolerance. Yeah. I have to save that stuff. Yeah. I got to say, I'm a Toasted Teddy girl. I'm on my third tube of Toasted Teddy. What's Toasted Teddy? It's the blush. It's the pocket blush. Oh. And that rusty kind of sun, windburned color. I think I use Piggy. Yeah. Not my favorite name. She should work on that. I know. I'm kidding. Oh, yeah. That pocket blush. That's the third product I use in my everyday.

28:51I think that's the one that maybe, I think between the phone case, the lip peptide and the phone case combo, and then the pocket blush, I think that's where she should like skyrocket to super stardom. I would love to know which one of her products is the most successful. It might be peptide lit because you can get so many and like, you know, it's like. I don't have Rode with me today. I'm using this. Yeah, you're using a competitor while we praise Rode. Sorry. But Summer Fridays is also really good. And I don't think it's peptide. So they're so different. What does a peptide do? Peptide. Yeah.

29:20You know, classic. Everybody wants peptide. Oh, that looks nice. That's really nice. Yeah, I need a little hydration. Totally, like change your look. Totally change your look. I haven't tried the Rode, but they're going to be starting sold in Sephora though. So now I can try it. Sold in Sephora. I think Elf Beauty will help with scaling, distribution and being more global. I saw like a bunch of countries that they're now going to be in. I also think on a personal level, of course, everyone wants to be a billionaire. Mazel Tov to Haley. But like we were getting to a place of like, are the Biebers destitute?

29:47You know, like all his money is kind of spent. And now she is the breadwinner. Breadwinner, yeah. And I think she's a lot more responsible. I don't think he will be able to touch a cent of this because he's not to be trusted with money. and that's for the best for their family. Probably a Lamborghini and an island. And a bunch of, that would actually be like tangible, because I feel like he spent all his money what did he buy, you know? Right. I wouldn't mind if someone bought an island or a Lamborghini, at least I can see it. Oh yeah, there you go. But like don't buy stuff that I can't see. Like high tops.

30:17Yeah, or like I don't want to say it. Something you could consume. Oh. Even food. Okay. You spend a lot on food. She's talking about pot brownies. I'm talking about, yeah, even like Like, yeah, food and beverage. Okay, got it. But I'm excited for her. I think that now that we know what she's capable of. I mean, don't go crazy now. But I'm saying a fashion line with her would be insane. Yeah. I just think this is really amazing. Like, I feel like she said, like, I want, even in that TMZ thing that came out where she was, like, on tour with Justin and they gave her a plane to go on his tour. She was like, no, I want one that's the size of Kylie's.

30:53And they were like, no. And so she didn't take their small plane. But I feel like she woke up and was like, I want a plane like Kylie Jenner. I want a billion dollars. I'm going to make it happen. She manifested it. And yeah, but most people like when they set out to build a billion dollar brand, like they don't and they can't because that's not how brands get built just because you want it. Yeah. But like she really did it. I think this is an amazing story for women. I love it. I'm excited for Elf. Is this the first acquisition that Elf has as a brand? I don't know. But, you know, the last thing I heard about Elf, remember that interview that Meghan Markle did, that podcast interview, the most recent one where she's like talking to her friend.

31:25She's Elf, right? No, she is Jamie Kiernan. She is from IT Cosmetics. To me, ELF and IT are the same thing. No, IT is much more luxury. ELF is more luxury? No, ELF is the end caps in the drugstore. It's like 99 cent makeup. Oh. Not 97, but they do great dupes and everything. For sure, but that's why they have enough money to acquire rose. They came so far. For a while, they were just a very small brand based to like, I think. Eyeslips Face. Yeah, yeah. Eyeslips Face. and then they started doing the dupes. Their primers became really big. They had this Hydro Grip Primer dupe that they had. This is the green jelly primer.

32:00Yeah. They got big with that and then they started doing the wand blush, like the Charlotte Tilbury, like knocking off Charlotte Tilbury. Not knocking off, but just being inspired by dupes. Yeah, just like look for less. So they found really great dupes and the products they were making were incredible. And the thing with the lines, those cheap lines that are inexpensive like that, they're how they're able to get such quality products and still sell for cheap prices, there's minimums. Like Elf has carried at every drugstore, CVS, Target, everywhere in the world. And so they're ordering so much of that one product.

32:35So they're able to get it at a lower cost because they're ordering billions of units of it. So a smaller brand like, you know, that's only had a few department stores, select department stores and things like that, they have to have a much higher price point because the packaging is much more elite and expensive. And they're not ordering as much of it. So they're going to have to pay a higher premium for that. So that's why you can get those big brands like L 'Oreal and, you know, and drugstore brands. You get great products for a lot cheaper. And that's why we have the makeup guru Joey Camaster on the podcast today to break this down for us.

33:03I really thought Elf Cosmetics. To give you a little pargy tip. But still five minutes ago, I really thought Elf Cosmetics was IT cosmetics. I'm like, how do they have a billion dollars? I'm not going to question it. Happy for Haley, get your bag. But no, it's as if like L 'Oreal bought. Well, I don't think Elf is that big, but yeah. Okay, so still wrong. Like NYX. Yeah. Yes. I like NYX. Yeah, they're good. They do great stuff. Yeah. They have that little store in Union Square that never opened. It was open for like two days, then it's like gone. I think in the two days that it was open, I went there because they had a contour stick that I used to really like, like a double-sided concealer and contour.

33:38Yeah. And it was like the only one that worked for me. And then they closed. And now I use the Clinique Chubby Stick. I love Clinique. So nostalgic. Yeah, it's true. Some things are like around long time for a reason. So yeah, I use Kandaleen and Road. And I'm, get you a girl who could do both. That's right. Congratulations to Haley. Congratulations to Haley. Like, I feel like she is, like, just sitting pretty today. Like, laughing in everyone's face. Because I feel like everyone just doubted her, you know? People are so mean to her. Before we get to the next story, it's bothering me. Can I bring attention to your grinder socks that you're wearing?

34:13Yes, you brought attention to them before we... Can you show the camera the icon? Is it on the icon? Okay. Okay, there's an icon. So I looked down and said, are you wearing the grinder symbol on your socks? She goes, I don't know. They're Zach's. And I said, well, this makes sense. Is that the grinder symbol? Let me Google it. It is. It's a. That makes sense. I mean, I don't know if she was. I don't know if you were at a pop up, a grinder pop up in Florida. It's not coming up. Oh, the mask. Oh, OK. I see. Show him. OK, that's not what I show. OK. Imagine it's a dick pic and you turn it around.

34:43No, no. Yeah. I'm like, I just want to like pick one. I'm scared. He knows he has the app on his phone. I'm talking to our lovely producer, Chris, here. Okay, this. This is the Grindr logo for anyone who didn't know that, which is me. And then this is my sock. It's eerily similar. I would ask Zach where he got them. I will. You know what? Let me just take a picture and ask him. She was down in Wilton Manors on a business conference. He's going to be like, you have had those socks for so long. I always think it's like the infinity symbol. I'm sure it's a lovely athleisure brand. Where are these socks from?

35:23Imagine if I get the gay bar down the street. Right. They were having a two-for-one margarita special. Okay, sorry to interrupt the Fast Five stories. No, and I'm sorry to this brand that's just been pretty much ruined. Or made, depends how you look at it. Well, the gays love to shop. Yeah, it depends who your clientele is. And Father's Day is coming up. And Father's Day is coming up. Our next story, some other major news, some legal news. Todd and Julie Chrisley have been released from prison after receiving pardons from President Trump. Pardons. I didn't even know this was brewing. But then after this all came out, like then I was looking at the kids, social medias and like they've been in D.C.

36:00They've been like lobbying for this. You know who they were with? Alice Marie Johnson. Yes. Kim Kardashian's friend. Kim Kardashian's friend who she freed with the help of Trump. So like it's part of this whole. What's the word for it? Like a movement? No, but like a criminal justice movement. Criminal justice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they were up next for a pardon. Who knew? And now Todd and Julie Christie, I believe Todd is out now. Both of them? Yeah. He was on his way home to Nashville after being locked up at federal prison in Pensacola, Florida. And Julie was also released not long after her husband.

36:36So they are both on their way home, if not home already. Where was she stationed? She was stationed at the Federal Medical Center in Lexington, Kentucky. So Kentucky and the other one was in where? Florida. Oh, so they weren't even near each other. No. So what a reunion? What a reunion, especially because he got 12 years. I think she had a couple years less. And they've both been in prison for at least over a year. It's been a while. How nuts. Now, the thing is with this is how do you choose who gets to go home? What do you mean? Like pardons are like – I know that the president pardoned like 5 ,000 people.

37:13Joe Biden. No, Donald Trump. Today? No, I think that with this new wave of pardons, I think there was like 4 ,000 something people that got pardoned. And the Christie's just happened to be two numbers on the thing. Okay. In this last week? I'm assuming. Correct me if I'm wrong. We have to ask J.P.T. Okay, they were part of a wave of pardons. A wave of pardons, yes. Okay. Yeah, so it wasn't just these random two ones. and apparently this has been in the works for many, many moons because Lifetime has been documenting her trying to get the parents out for, so the show is already, and everyone's like, get the cameras, get the cameras, the cameras have been sat.

37:49Oh, wow. The cameras have been there because her going to, her going to the storming the Capitol or whatever it was, the going to. Lobby. Lobbying at, and the White House and all these things was all being documented like about her, you know, her journey, I guess. So this is just like an ongoing thing. So I think we're going to be seeing she announced what's your name Chrisley the blonde Chrisley Savannah Chrisley announced that the cameras will be rolling and this is going to be a lifetime well that is so great for the viewers because this is interesting content yeah I don't know but they obviously have been making their case for a while it does make sense if it's part of a larger wave of pardons because I guess it's like what you do right and their sentencing was like really harsh for the crimes that they committed and I think that's like the sort of people who are eligible not eligible but thought of I think a lot of people, in their public eye, they try to make him an example.

38:41An example. Yeah. That happens with Michael's situation. Right. This does remind me of Sitch. Yeah. And so, but if Sitch got 12 years. Right. He got one year, right? He got, yeah, a little 13 months, I think. That's your friend, yeah? Yeah. We were just together recently. Oh, nice. How's he doing? Lovely. He's got three children now. They have a beautiful home. He has a new book out. He's opening his own. I have to tell Claudia. She's obsessed with his book. His own center. His own rehab center. Oh, wow. The Abiletition Center for addiction. That's amazing. Yeah. You love to see it. We love to see it.

39:13Yeah. But yeah, so I mean, there's a lot of taboo topics about this Chrisley's, you know, because it's, you know, being pardoned and, you know, the rich, you know, rich and privileged people. Yeah. It seems like the trend. Yeah. That people are mad about it. I think so. I've been too busy in the last 24 hours to take the pulse and see how people were feeling. And I imagine it's how, you know, if people like the Chrisley's and they felt they were treat unfairly. They're happy for this. If people don't like the Chrisleys and want to throw the book at him, they're like, this is - I think Todd's a little upset because now he can't have all those prison boyfriends.

39:42You know? He was probably thriving in there. You think so? If I had to write something down. Well, I saw that she said he got jacked. My father got jacked and she showed a glimpse of his bicep and of his thigh. He was wearing, I would think it was a Lululemon short and maybe a half, a quarter zip on the So he was working on his fitness. Yeah. That's a good thing to do while you're away, as they say. But I'm excited to see the homecoming video. Because remember when Teresa Giudice came home from prison and walked in the kitchen? I just wanted to see what her hair looked like and when they come fresh out.

40:12I'm seeing fresh out of prison. And I know Julie's not going to have a blowout. No, unless she's been working on herself as well. Maybe she's a brand new Julie. Maybe she had Laverne Cox in there, like an orange and a blue black, doing those weekly blowouts. Maybe. I wanted to see how she kept up with that frosted color. Do you think she's rooted and booted, Mama? Oh, I wonder. I didn't even think about it. Can you get your hair bleached in prison? I'm sure you could maybe buy a box dye at the commissary. No. Maybe Clorox wipes and just do a root smudge. But I don't know. Maybe at that point it's just like better to just go natural and like.

40:44Yeah. I feel like the upkeep would also be stressful. Like how am I going to get my dye this month? She was a high glam southern lady. But I feel like, you know, you could also, if she has, what, a brown, darker hair, like. Yeah. That could be beautiful as well. There we go. But yeah, it will be interesting to see. I didn't realize cameras were up. Ones to watch, toasters. Ones to watch. Yeah. Our third story are also ones to watch. This was news that I saw the other day at the AMAs. Zach Brown and Kendra Scott stepped out. Oh, I thought you meant Heidi Montag's wig. Oh, other news from the AMAs was Heidi Montag's wig.

41:18I think that was an internet plant. I think that was a publicity stunt. Clickbait. I think they knew they were doing it. I think she knew it was a risk and it was going to be talked about. It was so bad that it became a headline. Now think about it. She's on everyone's mind. That's true. She's in everyone's picture. Everyone's making fun of it. All press is good press. All press is good press. There's no right mind that a gay person would do that to her unless it was sabotage. Unless it was sabotage. It was so bad. It was stiffer than a box of Pringles. Okay. But I like it if it's like her idea and she's taking her power back, you know, and getting her press clippings.

41:57Yeah. I think that's a little bit of a both. I think they're a smart couple. I think that wig was intentional. That is so funny. It was a government plant. Well, other plants on the carpet, Zac Brown and Kendra Scott are dating. Another billionaire. Another billionaire, a female founder. They debuted their romance at the 2025 AMA. So Zac Brown is from Zac Brown Band. Yes. And Kendra Scott is the founder of Kendra Scott Jewelry, a billion dollar brand. She's also a guest shark on Shark Tank. So she's just like, these people are from two completely different worlds. And she bought Kristen Cavallari's jewelry line, didn't she?

42:31She did. If I'm not mistaken. You have all the M &A news. A spinoff, a jewelry brand of Uncommon James. Love. If I'm correct. But Kendra Scott, I mean, that's another female founder. Another female founder. This episode is just great for female founders doing big things. Zach Brown seems like a catch, even though as we talk about him, I'm like reminded that there was some sort of scandal in his. Is it scandalous or taboo, the relationship? What's going on with this? Is she an older lady? I think this is good. No, no, no. I think he's 46 and she's 51. So like we're good. But I feel like when he divorced his ex-wife, I remember seeing a lot of headlines just about the divorce.

43:16Like I don't think it was the greatest. Maybe the timing was off. Not with Kendra though. I'm guessing because I feel like if I'm remembering correctly, it was like a year ago at least. So I think Kendra is a new woman, you know, and this is a fresh relationship on new fertile soil. A younger rock star. Yeah. She has, you know, her jewelry line with rocks. I was trying to make a word association. like Alzheimer's that's really beautiful I actually ship so hard and I just want to know how two people like this meet each other like where do they run into each other in order to spark a romance I'm assuming like in Nashville is she based in Tennessee I wouldn't have thought so but I guess it's possible what does she look like do you have a photograph yeah of course she's a beautiful lady oh wow I didn't think that's what she looked like what did you think I didn't know.

44:13I didn't think she was so glam. I assumed she'd be a little bit more granola-ish for some reason. I don't know. Beautiful couple. I mean, I think that that's kind of the people you go for. She's probably a fan of country music. Maybe she was heading – she, you know, she got – Went to a concert, got backstage. Went to a concert, bought a box for all her jewelry employees. Yeah. And then went backstage and, you know, caught her eye. Caught an eye. Yeah. That's right. So I'm wishing them lots. And I hope that they've been dating for a while now if they're finally stepping out. you know, you imagine you don't go public on the first date or second or third.

44:45Zach Brown Band is country fried. Yeah. Chicken fried. Little chicken fried. And I know I like my chicken fried. Cold beer on a Friday night. Little pair of jeans that fit just right. We're probably going to get to stop for copyright because you sound just like them. I don't think they're going to know what that was. And also, Joey's a big country music fan. Yes. Just you're full of surprises. I still have not done stagecoach yet because you know what? my anxiety is putting it off because I want to make sure it's perfect. Oh, for the planner? I don't know if you can handle it. I need to know if the house is right.

45:18I'm not a Palm Springer, so I don't know when I get out to the desert, how do I find the home? How do I find the brand deals? How do I get into all the parties? I want to make sure I'm set up for success. I don't want to be like a straggler in a tent sitting on the side of the road next to a cactus. Yeah. I do feel like it's easy to end up that way. And even for someone who's not a planner, it's very stressful. Yeah. So I need Revolve to send me. Yeah. Yeah, you need a brand. Or quints. I need quints to send me to the next coach. But, like, even if they send you, then you have no control over, like, what if you're in the room that's not right for you.

45:49Right. So sometimes it's good to write your own ticket. Well, they base have what the room you get on your followers now. Oh, is that how? Yeah, that's why I've seen. That's how branch trips have been working, yeah. Okay, like, people probably have an issue with that, but how else should it go? Like, someone's going to have a better room. Like, Beyonce's going, little mama are going on tour. Beyonce's getting the master suite. Right. Yeah. I guess they could like pick out of a hat, very Real Housewives style. But I don't know. Don't you want to keep like your biggest talent happiest, right? I agree.

46:14Do you think any brands are watching want to send me on a brand trip right now? Would you love to go on a brand trip? I mean, depending on what it is. I mean, the caliber of it and other people going. A lot of times these people are so young that I feel like, you know, like I'm the chaperone. Like we have kind of nothing in common. So I think if it's the right fit, I would love to do it. You know, I'm more like a Real Housewives error. If it was a Real Housewives girls trip, that'd be more me. Like, going to, like, you know, playing volleyball on a beach in Bali is not my thing. Yeah. I don't get invited on a lot of brand trips either.

46:44Do you think if they got invited and you didn't want to go, at least they sent me and said they would notice? No. I don't think that they would. I think they'd be pleasantly surprised. Yeah. Yeah. But if any brand ambassadors or marketing girlies are planning a brand trip, like, consider Joey. Smelly girlies. You would be so great. Yeah. And you like to travel. Love to travel. Your passport is up to date. It is up to date. Okay. I have global entry. You would be great for Tarte because you're a makeup expert too. Well, I did Tarte. I never went on a Tarte brand trip. I went to see Beyonce with Tarte.

47:13Ooh. That counts. Yeah, so we went there. And then, you know, I did some events here and there. But I never did the actual sleepover private jet trip. Okay. Maureen, if you're watching, I know I'm sure Maureen's a toaster, send me on the next trip. There's a lot of toasters who work at Tarte. Yeah. They send us product. But they don't invite us to Bali. Oh. I think Claudia actually might have gotten invited. How is she? I think also we don't get invited to stuff because people know we won't go. Right. So like, but still, we would like to be invited. So I just want to make that clear. It's a thought that counts.

47:39You're right. We probably won't go. We have a lot going on. But it's nice to be included. You just want to be included. I just want to be appreciated. Yeah. Right? Thought of. And it's like, it's when you invite someone to your wedding and you know they can't come. It's like, oh, well, it's perfect. Because like, you got the credit. You got the karma credits. And you didn't have to pay for their plan. That's kind of like what we are. I love saying no to things. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? I've never been more ready. I am so ready as well, but I do need to let you know. I did speak hastily that today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Fatty 15.

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53:04Go to Spritz Society dot com slash toast to find a store near you. And be sure to follow at Spritz on Instagram for all of our exciting updates, announcements, events. We've got a lot going on over at Spritz Society. How exciting. I found out the national availability for that commercial I saw you on. Oh, yeah. We did a little commercial. What did you call him? Bucko? Something you should have done a long time ago, bucko. I loved that commercial. It was so good. Classic stuff. Always quoting it. Well, our next story is some movie musical news. Mamma Mia is returning to Broadway and Sabrina Carpenter is eyed for the third movie and TV version.

53:39So lots of Mamma Mia news. She'd be perfect in that. She would be perfect in that and it might actually make me like Mamma Mia. It was Amanda Seyfried, her predecessor. Yeah, Amanda Seyfried, predecessor, Meryl Streep. And even though you would think I would love Mamma Mia, I love ABBA. I love movie musicals. I don't love musicals, but I like them in a movie. I don't like Mamma Mia. It gets on my nerves. Well, I think all the sounds sound the same. But in a good way. Is that the one that everyone's playing in the – like a couple summers ago, everyone was throwing napkins in the club? Yeah. Yeah.

54:14Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. That's cute. Like, I like all the lore. Like, I like everything about it except the actual movie. I don't know why. Where does it take place? Grease. And Grease. And it's like, I think the first one, she's getting married. Amanda Seyfried's getting married. And then there's like three men who might be her father. And then she sings. And then the other one, the next one. Does the story change? It's the sequel. So it's like a prequel? I don't know. So this is going to be a sequel to Amanda Seyfried's movie? Are they going to read you Amanda Seyfried's movie? I think this will be number three.

54:44Like maybe it's even, I don't know how you would do it in a way that Sabrina Carpenter is the lead. Like not Amanda Seyfried's daughter. So this was a movie, I'm sorry, is Mama Mia, was it a Broadway show? Yes. And then it became a movie? Yes. So the Broadway show only told one story. Yes. So that movie, that was emulated in the first movie. In the first Mama Mia, which did really well so it made a second Mama Mia. Now they're talking about a third starring Sabrina. Oh. I think it's good news like because it would be good for Sabrina to be like box office queen would be great for her she's good a lot of people don't know she's been around for many moons she can do it all yeah I've not been sleeping on Sabrina Carpenter like I would never I've been a fan of her for her whole tenure yeah but people like don't really realize they think oh I like espresso please and then they see her in concert they're like she can dance she's funny she can act I'm like yeah because she's a Disney channel queen she made a brand she made a brand for herself she's got that kind of whole niche thing down pat that whatever she's doing.

55:38Do you see her in concert? I haven't seen her in concert. Oh, I've seen her in concert, yes. You did? At the VMAs, she was the performer. Oh, you and MTV. Yeah, we were linked. You were just like obsessed. Yeah, so she's the VMAs and she killed it. She was one of the best performers I've ever seen. So she has great stage presence. She's marketed herself into this quirky, you know, 50s or 60s glam bot, whatever feminine thing. And it just works for her. She found the right niche and I think she's appealing to a broader audience. Men want to see her because she's beautiful. Girls like her because she's relatable and she has powerful songs about her you know about femininity and she's just you know an all around like you know pretty American girl.

56:20I think she's very I like her. Yeah I like her too. I feel like we have mostly the same opinions about people. Yeah. I've yet to diverge with you today. Here we go. Do you like Mamma Mia? I don't necessarily not like it. I never saw the movie. I know this. I know like the The songs. And the thing is, I like the Mamma Mia songs. That's my favorite part. But those are just ABBA songs. Yeah. So it's not even like, the thing that I like is not even theirs. True dat. So I could just listen to ABBA. I like ABBA. Do you like ABBA? I do. I think that's a feel-good jam. I agree. I totally agree. It's always the vibe.

56:53Was it a cult? Doesn't it sound like it's only, there wasn't like 15 people in the band? So there is an ABBA documentary that I think talks about the dark sides of ABBA. Dark side it. But I think they also got their start on Eurovision. Are they European? The Greece? Yeah, I think there's like Swedish. Are they Swedish? But then they came from Eurovision, which is crazy. What a tangled web we weave. Right? Isn't that just not – I didn't know about that, but I just knew there was something – I'm clairvoyant in that way. I knew there was something taboo about it. Yeah. Oh, taboo. I don't know taboo.

57:29Let me search. Abba cult. Abba cult. Were they all brothers and sisters? Were they all sleeping together? Something, all married? Something was going on there. Oh, everything you need to know about this Swedish cult classic. Abba. No, women are not a cult. Oh, torment of the Abba star with a Nazi father. I didn't know anything. That's not what I was. I thought there was just a little menage a trois going on. I didn't know anything about the Nazis. I'm cracking up. No, but there's definitely a documentary. I'm pretty sure it was referenced in the season of Summer House. Craig told Paige to watch it.

58:01It was about the dangers of touring. Right? I think that I'm getting that right. Our fifth and final story, a little TV news. The Real Housewives of London cast is here. Now, don't be like me. I did confuse this with Ladies of London cast. No. Ladies of London. Did you ever watch Ladies of London? Greatest television ever made. Yes, very good. They announced a few weeks ago they're bringing it back. Now, everyone, these Housewives, it's getting themselves into like, you know, strange territory because like if I was a lady of London I'd be like what the hell what's wrong with us why are you bringing a whole other cast of characters in here renew our show and they did oh they both have shows now they're both having shows so now we're having real houses of London a good old fashioned tea party cast by Hi You and the cast is out and it's interesting for one reason and then we're waiting on ladies of London cast but they already said ladies of London is going to be all new people now I'm holding out hope that there'll be some familiar faces however so is Stanberry going to jump to the Real Housewives?

58:56She lives in Dubai. Oh, she's not a London lady? She sounds London. She was a lady of London. She crushed it. Fan favorite. Then a housewife of Dubai. Then she moved to Dubai with her husband at the time, Jem. They divorced. She still lives in Dubai with her new husband, Sergio, and she's on Real Housewives of Dubai, which I think is not coming back. I think it's not working. So it's time to move back to London, Caroline Stanberry. She's also like an aristocrat like a British aristocrat I like watching her I love her she's one of my favorite reality TV stars ever and now there's two London ladies shows for ladies in London and she needs to be on one of them and there's no show in Dubai at the moment why not jump the pond yeah I think her whole family is in London she's like from there she has history she's like tied to the royal family and association wise I think that's what people are going to be expecting because like I didn't know both shows or both franchises were greenlit again for season two.

59:53But I now that I know, I would want her to be part of that in some capacity because otherwise it's not as familiar for me. Me as well. But what's interesting is Real Housewives of London cast is announced. And the one name that we do know and is familiar is Juliette Angus. Remember Juliette? She had the King Charles Cavaliers. Oh, yes. She's the American. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Chatty American. But then her and Caroline wound up being unlikely friends. I think that. Yeah. And she's an influencer now. She does like – she's a full-time content creator, so she'll be great. I'm interested to see what the ladies, the housewives of London are going to be.

1:00:24I have a feeling they're going to be a little bit grittier than you would expect. When you hear London, you think, you know, high society, rich tea ladies, like, you know, ties with the royal family being blah, blah, blah. I think it's going to be a little bit more Soho, Piccadilly. Is that London? Piccadilly? Yeah, that sounds right. Or something like that. I think it's going to be a little bit more like, you know, like rock and roll-ish or like, you know, like a little bit more like a grungy fashion designer. Interesting. Maybe someone who worked for Vivian Westwood or like something like that.

1:00:51And as opposed to very proper cheap party. That was like Annabelle on Ladies of London. Remember her? She was McQueen's muse, but she passed away. Right. Rest in peace. So I think I have a feeling that it's going to be a little younger. It's going to skew a little bit like Rony, but like the London version. I think that's what they've been trying to do. And it flopped, I think, for me. Rony. And Rony flopped. Yeah. I mean, Jenna can do no wrong in my eyes, but like the rest of the girls, I think it just wasn't the right fit. I think it's fair to say. Yeah. It's fair to say. We can call that one.

1:01:17But I'm excited to see what that's happening. And I know this is not on the topic board, but I'm excited to see what's going on with Rhode Island. Right. Whispers about Rhode Island. Rhode Island's having their moment, I feel. I feel like it's going to be the new, like, remember when New Jersey was like the hottest ticket in town? Everything was, you know, Sopranos and the Housewives of New Jersey and then Jersey Shore. It was like, it was a whole thing. What else is happening in Rhode Island? Or you think this is going to be the beginning of something great? I feel it's going to be the beginning of something new.

1:01:44Oh, I like that. I feel like that's a pocket of the country that we haven't seen on television. Right. I think there's a lot to be seen there. Everyone thinks Rhode Island is like there's a huge Italian-American community there. I think that's what they're focusing on. I've seen pictures and a little bit of bios of some of the presumed ladies who will be on the show. Pauly Dees from there. So you think it will be like Pauly Dees? I don't think it will be that. I think it will be – as opposed to like what you would think about like it would be like you think Rhode Island, you think gingham and coastal gingham and like lobster bakes and clams and things.

1:02:14Like Hill House. and Taylor Swift's house. Hydrangeas and white picket fences. I think it's going to be more... Holiday house. I think it's going to be more focusing on that kind of Italian-American culture that's over there. Interesting. I'm assuming. I'm excited. I always love a new Housewives franchise. Like, Kums are fresh, as we say. Me too. Like, new is good. I'm learning so many Yiddish words today. You are. I usually don't speak this much Yiddish, especially not with Claudia. You know that I'm all about the world. That's why, probably. Yeah. And as you said, you're a little bit Italian or a little bit Irish.

1:02:41Now you're a little Yid. Yeah, there we go. Little yittle Joey Camasta. So Real Houses of London. Okay, the other people, in case anyone listening knows who these people are, I personally don't. Panthea Parker, Karen Loderick-Peace, Amanda Cronin, Nessie Welshinger, and Juliet Mayhew, which is the only name that I'm like, do we know that person? Do you know Nessie Hellinger? I don't know Nessie. Do you know Nessie? No, I don't know any of them. Here, I'm looking at one of them on Instagram, Juliet. Let's see if she's like what we're looking for. She seems to be what we're looking for. Oh. You know?

1:03:16She's got the housewife Instagram. Yeah. She's a topless man. A topless man. She's got, you know. Like florals. I see tapered candles. A chandelier. That's everything we need. I need to get an iPad. I think my phone, I'm getting so old that my phone is getting too small for me to see. Interesting. Do you have the biggest phone that they make? I have the biggest phone they make, but I do want to get the biggest iPad they make soon. Yeah, just watch out for like cards. It's a purple tunnel, though. True, Dad. When you're holding the iPad. I only use my iPad for this show, really. And it's so professional.

1:03:48It is. I don't want to be on my phone. I don't like being on my phone. Yeah. That's, like, very boomer of me. I do everything on my computer. Not even on my iPad. There we go. Like, I can't answer your email until I'm at my computer. Sorry. Oh, there you go. Apologies. You like to type. This email finds me at my computer. You went to Catherine Gibbs. What's that? It's like a school, like a trade school for, like, for secretaries. I went to Maitland's Beacon teaches. Is that the school? No, it's a computer program. It's a 90s kid, but you're 80s? 70. 79. It was like 90s kids learned computer typing skills with Mavis Beacon teaches typing.

1:04:21Did you play Oregon Trail? I don't think. I know what that is. You probably know what it is. It's a green and black game. Yeah, it's a computer game that showed us how travelers were on the Oregon Trail, I think. You know who actually created that game? Who? Mr. Wonderful. Kevin O 'Leary. Oh, get out of here. Yeah. I was supposed to have a podcast with him one day. Like do an episode with him? Yeah, he was supposed to come on, but then it got canceled last minute. You guys would be so great together. Can you circle back? Maybe we'll circle back. Make it happen. The world needs that. What are your thoughts on Bethany Frankel?

1:04:55Oh, wait. I'm enjoying her newfound voice. Yeah. Or just her influencing. Yeah. I think it's fab. I trust her opinion. I've always liked her. anytime she was a housewife like not even just dogmatically like I always just agreed with her I think she's like a very sensible logical person also like funny and smart and a lot of her new found speaking stuff was like going down on TikTok a lot and I don't have TikTok so I missed a lot of it oh that's right but then recently I followed her on Instagram I forget like what was the impetus and it's enjoyable she's got a lot going on she does she always has great recommendations good restaurant things and she gives it she shoots it to you straight yeah she does and she's like Like, you know, no one owns her.

1:05:36So her opinions are really her own. Yeah. Is what I find. And, like, it's not like when she promotes a product that she loves. It's like she doesn't need the money. She just actually likes the product. At least it seems that way. Mm-hmm. Then I just wanted to talk about Summer House because Reunion Part 1 aired last night. And I know you're friends with a lot of the Summer House people, but you don't watch. I haven't watched a full episode. Partly because I'm jealous that I'm not on it. You would be great. A lot of times I don't watch shows because of that. It's like the traders, if the traders had podcasters instead of all these reality stars, I would fucking crush the traders.

1:06:07You would. You need to get on a reality show just to get on, to be eligible for those alum shows. That's what I got to do. I got to start doing, maybe I'll go on RuPaul's Drag Race. Or is there anything with Jersey Shore that you could get? I do Moonlight on the Jersey Shore. I'm there all the time. Because you're big with MTV. Yeah. So there's a few, the next few seasons. They film so many seasons. The next few seasons I'll be popping up here and there. But I don't think it's enough to get me a credited spot on the traders. Understood. You need to clock more hours. But, yeah, Shlummer House. You know, I love Paige Sorbo and, you know, I've met Craig.

1:06:38You said you're friends with West? West. You know, I'm not quite friends with him. I met him a couple times and we're friendly online and stuff. So, yeah. Classic. I've never met him. But I actually – so Reunion Part 1 was enjoyable. Nothing, like, major happened. Just, like, some – nothing moved the needle in terms of, like, the drama on the show. but just people were sharing. Are they in the same house every year? They're in the same house every year. And I actually had a thought last night, which is that like Summer House could really take place anywhere on earth. Like it doesn't have to be in the Hamptons.

1:07:08They don't leave the house. It's just like you come to, like they sometimes go to a club or something, but they can't really bring the cameras. The town of the Hamptons doesn't really like them filming in the Hamptons. So they really are relegated to this house. So it's like, why don't you just get a house somewhere else? And you can have an even bigger house with like more things going on. Rhode Island. It's like Jersey Shore showed us the shore. like you would go to Jersey Shore as a tourist like to have the Jersey Shore experience we're going to Karma we're going to the t-shirt shop like there were the spots the boardwalk like it showed Summer House like has no neighborhood like there's nothing which I'm surprised about because I would think that's what would get I mean I don't know the cast of characters is fabulous and the drama is great but I would think that everyone that you know Hampton is such a niche thing in New York that like a lot of people like only hear about the Hampton they don't really know what it's like I think if they showed like you know what the restaurants are, what it's like to like go to the beach or like going to getting, trying to get in a surf lodge.

1:07:59They show us going to the beach, them bringing, lugging their chairs, doesn't look glam. They don't show us like walking down main street, getting a coffee. People just like sneak out in the morning. Going to Tate's, going to, you know, Ralph's or coffee. Yeah. And it's like they rent in South, which is the most expensive. Hampton, it's like, okay, I understand you want to go to Hamptons because that's what people in New York do. So like what? They're not going to go upstate every weekend. But like get a house in Quag, like get something closer to the city. I don't know why you have to be in Southampton.

1:08:25We're not seeing anything about Southampton. Even though it doesn't matter at this point, it was just something I noted. Whereas, like, there's nothing Hamptons about this show. And is there a relationship drama? Is anyone sleeping with anyone in the cast? So, yeah. So this season, Lexi, who was on the toast yesterday. Stunning girl. Stunning. Oh, my God. Beautiful girl. Inside and out. It was her first season on the show. And she, like, made a very quick connection with Jesse Solomon, who's Wes' best friend, who it's his second season. Like, immediately, sparks flew. It reminded me a lot of Jersey Shore.

1:08:51Like, it's a bad example. But like Sam and Ron, that's why the show so good was like a bunch of people. And like there were a couple people who like really connected. And like that's what's great reality television when you're in a share house. And so the whole season is about like their relationship. They're like really hot and heavy really fast. But like he's not ready for a relationship and isn't acting right all the time. And by the end of the summer, they do break up. But that is the core drama of the summer. And what does Paige get into? She just gives the one-liners and just gives the sass?

1:09:20Pretty much. So last season, like she was still with Craig. He came to the house one time for a weekend, which we're used to at this point. He's from Southern Charm, not Southern House. Some summer house. He's from Southern Charm. Correct. Charleston. That's right. So, but her relationship, they're still together over the summer. So it's a lot about like how she's feeling in the relationship. Does he come on the show? He does. And every year that they've been together. With a spritz in hand? No, because the show is Loverboy. It's taboo. They would block it out. Everything on the show is Loverboy.

1:09:47And we have drama. I know. I know the drama. It's funny to watch the show and I'm like, oh, I have beef here. But that's kind of good that you don't watch the show because if you have friends with the cast, it's weird if you're watching their show all the time. The thing is also I'm very good friends with Hannah Burner and I had no idea. I knew she was on the show but I didn't know there was a scandal about her getting – I don't know if she got kicked off her fire or something happened. She got pushed out allegedly because she did a brand deal with Truly. And then Loverboy is like – they run the show.

1:10:17Loverboy is problematic it sounds like. Yeah, they're just like, there's enough space for everyone. Yeah. And like, it's not like Lover, so Loverboy is on every single episode, hands in hand, all the time. All they drink is Loverboy. Is that, now is Summer House as a whole owns that or one cast member? So one cast member does. I don't know if Bravo owns any of it because I remember after Bethany, like now Bravo owns like a piece of any brand that launches on the show. So I don't know what Bravo's involvement is, but like they don't let really, he doesn't really let anyone bring anything else into the house.

1:10:46Like the whole – every party is stocked by like cases on cases. And why would you even need something else? My ask, is Iced Tea Lemonade promoted on Southern Charm of Spritz? It's in – like Craig, if he's having a backyard barbecue, like it's there. But it's not like the whole show. Yeah, but Rob's not taking a cut of your sales. No. Good. Yeah. So I think sometimes they blur it out. I don't know what that's about. We've signed releases. Like go ahead. Who knew the canned cocktail world was so intertwined? There's so much drama in this world. This all went down like a year ago. Oh, my God. But, yeah, it's just sort of like Cold War, colder cocktails.

1:11:25True that. I'm going to Target after this. I'm doing a lot of things after this. If I show the picture of me and you to the lady at Target, will I get a free case? Oh, my God. I got to get you a free case. I'll get you some spritz today. Can you send me some lemonade iced tea or the pink one? I'll take any flavor. I had pickle before. I don't need that anymore. I still have some left. I'm cracking up. Lemon iced tea and pink lemonade are on their way to you today. I'll tell the boys. Joey needs some. He's got big plans. I do. I have weekend plans. Well, thank you so much for participating. Thank you for having me.

1:11:53I'm always happy to come on. Anytime you need me to fill in. Always happy to have you. If you need me to fill in at home and watch the kids or, you know. Oh, that would be fun. Cook up a meal for the fam. Honestly, I do. I do need you to cook me a meal. Okay, good. Maybe we'll make a Reuben. Maybe you will. Well, thank you guys so much for watching. I hope you've enjoyed this episode. Joey, where can everyone follow you, listen to, keep up with you? Yes, just follow me anywhere Joey Camas is found. It's any social media. It's Joey Camas on Instagram, on TikTok. And it's happening podcast every Friday where podcasts can be found.

1:12:22I love that very much. I love you very much. And I love all of you watching very much. I hope you all have an amazing day. And I love you. Bye.