Thanksgiving Personality Hires with Margo Oshry: Tuesday, November 25th, 2025

25 Nov 2025 · 58 min

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The Toast Episode Summary: Thanksgiving Personality Hires with Margo Oshry

Episode Overview Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry, featuring Margo Oshry Date: November 25, 2025 Duration: 1 hour 11 minutes Description: A lively discussion filled with pop culture updates, personal anecdotes, and advice segments leading up to Thanksgiving.

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Key Segments

  1. Pop Culture Updates
  2. Taylor Swift Music Video
  3. Taylor Swift reportedly flew to the UK to film a music video for her song “Elizabeth Taylor.”
  • Emily Mariko's Pregnancy
  • TikTok influencer Emily Mariko is pregnant with her second child, with a creative announcement linked to her infamous pumpkin pie recipe.
  • Ryan Seacrest and Julianne Hough Reunion
  • Exes Ryan Seacrest and Julianne Hough are set to reunite for Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve 2026.
  • Lizzo’s Commentary on Body Positivity
  • Lizzo discusses the erasure of plus-size women in the current era of weight loss drugs like Ozempic.
  1. Dear Toasters Advice Segment
  2. Advice Topics:
  3. A listener grapples with the implications of her aunt dating a man she once hooked up with.
  4. A discussion about the unusual practice of a family member charging guests for holiday dinners.
  5. A listener's encounter with a guy espousing Holocaust denial conspiracy theories after forgetting her father is Jewish.
  6. A hairdresser’s reluctance to include a long-term client in social media content.

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Detailed Insights

Pop Culture Updates

Taylor Swift Music Video

  • Context: Swift's decision to film in the UK has sparked interest, especially after the album's prior success.
  • Discussion: There is speculation about privacy and whether she would buy out a hotel for her celebrity guests.

Emily Mariko's Pregnancy

  • Announcement: Emily’s announcement intertwined with her pumpkin pie saga serves as a playful nod to her online history, marking a significant personal milestone.

Ryan Seacrest and Julianne Hough

  • Reunion: The nostalgia of seeing former couples reuniting in public events adds a layer of intrigue for fans and viewers alike.

Lizzo's Commentary

  • Body Positivity Debate: Lizzo's viewpoint raises questions about the dynamics within the body positivity movement and societal standards as she navigates her own weight loss journey.

Dear Toasters Advice Segment

  • Listener Dilemma 1:
  • A 19-year-old listener confronts the ethics of her aunt dating her former hookup, revealing complex family dynamics and age-related concerns.
  • Advice: Recommend transparency with her aunt about the past connection, emphasizing the importance of communication.
  • Listener Dilemma 2:
  • A husband’s brother charges family members for holiday meals, raising concerns about family expectations and financial burdens.
  • Advice: Acknowledge the potential financial burden of hosting but suggest attending family gatherings to maintain peace.
  • Listener Dilemma 3:
  • A listener's date reveals anti-Semitic views linked to conspiracy theories after she discloses her father is Jewish.
  • Advice: Strongly encourage ending the relationship due to the problematic comments.
  • Listener Dilemma 4:
  • A hair client questions her attractiveness based on her hairdresser’s lack of engagement for social media content.
  • Advice: Suggest the listener take the initiative to ask her hairdresser about potential content, normalizing the conversation.

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Conclusion The episode wraps up with reflections on gratitude and thanks as the hosts share what they are thankful for, setting a festive tone for the Thanksgiving season. The blend of humor, personal stories, and heartfelt advice resonates throughout the episode, making it a delightful listen.

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Additional Notes

  • Listeners Are Encouraged: The hosts encourage intimacy and openness within relationships and the significance of maintaining family connections during holidays.
  • Holiday Spirit: Emphasis on gratitude and togetherness during the Thanksgiving season, highlighting the importance of family dynamics and personal growth.

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0:00Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Saks. Saks, gifts for even the pickiest of people on my list. If you want to curate the best holiday wish list to forward to your family and just give light suggestions about what you require this holiday season, Saks is a great place to do that. For everything on your agenda that you're looking for, shopping fun at Saks.

0:20Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. Toast. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday. I'm excited and horrified to be joined by my sister, Margo. Hi, Margo. How are you? What did I do today? You showed up looking like that. Like not only am I a postpartum woman, I'm like headed to the airport. I'm wearing like my Abercrombie sweatshirt. And you're over here looking like, quite frankly, a high class hooker. And let's talk about it.

1:02That's insane. Okay, one, I'm going to the office and I don't look like a hooker going to office. It's literally a matching trouser set. She's wearing culottes. I'm wearing culottes and loafers. And man loafers. Yeah, like I look nice and professional. I guess I didn't realize that this was a different setup than the last time that you couldn't see my full outfit. So you're really only seeing from my chest up, which is making me look like a hooker. And that's really not fair. Can I ask you a question? What?

1:26what so to me going to the office kind of feels like going to synagogue like you really like oh can't have your arms out wait what yes you can also i work in fashion it's very different yeah yeah if i'm working in finance so i'm a slob is what you're saying so if i'm working in like i like goldman like yeah no you gotta wear your pencil skirt whatever but no you're encouraged to like have fun with fashion just like don't like look like a hooker which i don't think that i do i'm just no you don't i'm messing with you and i'm just jealous because i'm like fat and ugly in a slob and nothing fits me right now and you're like sitting where just like your arms are perfect so I'm just going to continue to be mean to you because it's how I heal inside okay.

1:56And it's also I guess how you compliment as well. Yes of course of course. Now your arms are out on the podcast which like just people don't do here. It's so crazy. I guess they don't. And I'm just like projecting but I just wanted to mention like your arms are out and it's crazy. I guess I really didn't I didn't really think about that. Like next time I'll just you know wear my Abercrombie sweatshirt. Correct and I thought you learned last time. Yeah but then I thought we settled on the fact that It's like we do this before I go to work and then I have to go to work and I can't. You don't want me to look like a slob at work, do you?

2:24I mean, I feel like your co-workers would appreciate it. Yeah, I'm sure. They'd be like, wow, is Margo sick? Yeah, no, it just like brings the whole vibe like a little bit more down to earth, but it's fine. Okay, well, I've learned my lesson and maybe third time's the charm, even though this isn't my third time. What did I wear the second time? Clearly not something offensive. Were we in Florida when we did it? Were we in Florida when? No. You were in my studio and you wore like a real work outfit. What did I wear? Like, you know, trousers, culottes. Got it, got it. Things of that nature. Clearly something not impressionable.

2:53This is impressionable. You'll remember this one. You look insanely gorgeous and just know like I'm a big, fat, miserable, slobby wench. And I just am jealous of you. Oh, well, thank you so much. Are you jealous of anything about me? Yeah. I mean, your hair is luscious and gorgeous. Let's talk about my hair. Is the best hair in the world? Do you know that today I'm wearing my hair on naturality? Can you put it in front? So I showered two days ago and I've done nothing to my hair. This morning I put a little bit of hair oil in it. Okay. And honestly, I was looking in the mirror and I was thinking to myself how crazy it is that I blow my hair out every single day.

3:17Ready? You have less hair in the whole world. Close your eyes. Okay. I'm going to do like a big reveal. Okay. Let me just like shush it up. Okay. I'm going to look at the monitor. Okay. You're going to like break. Ready? Okay. Three, two, one. You're going to choke. I'm literally going to choke. Ready? Three, two, one. Wow. That actually is so crazy. I know. I really need to stop blowing out my hair, but sometimes, tell me if you guys feel this, like people who have like pretty good natural hair. Some days you wake up and like it works and some days you have like a different set of hair. For sure.

3:42but also the way that your hair looks like with a blowout is just like incredible. I don't know why you wouldn't. Like it looks good like this, like, you know, if you're just like chilling, like you don't need to always have a blowout, but like your hair with a blowout, it also doesn't require much. But you know, Sechi, I'm an on-camera star. Right. And just, I feel like if I'm on camera without a blowout, that's like, it's like not wearing makeup. Do you know what I mean? A hundred, I mean, a hundred percent. You're fresh off the plane from Nashville. Yes. You went to the CMA Awards. Yes. Danielle Caroline was here with me and we recapped the CMA Awards, but also like your journey.

4:13Yeah. Tell me about that. You looked insane. No, I know. It's actually kind of sad because like I'll never look like that again. But we also like have this thing, you and I. What? We're like, we look amazing at country award shows. Like the last time we went, did we go to ACM or CMA? We looked sick. We looked sick. Your updo? My wet hair look? No, no. And what were we in glam for 14 hours? Literally. We better look that good. But I do have to say, the same people who did my glam at ACMs did it at CMAs. So I think that they might be like the common denominator. You looked gorgeous. thank you so much and I like was it like I don't know why like every time I start you talking to somebody I'm like oh I ship but no just because you're like this young hot thing like going to Nashville like single gal out of town looking like the prettiest you've ever looked no and I just felt like everybody who was chatting with you on the carpet was like damn no this is ju-ess no literally me to Brandon like like literally except Brandon likes married no of course of course he's kids he's whatever but um you know I mean sparks were flying probably Probably.

5:09Quite literally. Quite literally. Oh my God, it was so fun. Also, but you know what I was thinking? When you guys did it, I can't believe in hindsight that you guys were live the entire time. I know. We're so crazy. Like that is so crazy because there is like the lulls. Lulls. The whole time you're just standing around waiting for people to come talk to you. Yeah. If you're there for two hours, you probably have a cumulative like seven minutes of people actually talking to you. One thousand percent. The rest is just like waiting and staring. Also like the politics. I feel like it actually, it's probably just gotten worse over the years.

5:34Like the more people who like pop off in country. but like the politics of people getting people to come to you like there are so many fucking people on that carpet and so many of the the uh publicists have like sticks up their asses I had to but this girl did not have a stick up her ass so I'm not saying that but Brandon Lake's publicist like he had to go and I literally stopped her I was like one minute like seriously one minute she was like one minute yeah no and I know it's their job and I respect the publicity but like stop being such a bitch wench motherfucking cunt okay it's so true like them pulling people away from me.

6:05Like, get off of her. No, it's so, it's so true. And also like, but it really was crazy. And I kept saying this like the whole week because like I was there with like a record label. So I was like doing a bunch of like content with their artists. Industry tings. Industry tings. Yeah, now you're making TikToks with Jordan Davis. Like seriously, he is the nicest person. He's kind of a toaster. No, he is. Didn't bring up the toast? He didn't bring up the toast, but I feel like he like me. But he knew you were like related to the toast girls? I don't know. I don't think he made that connection. Oh, because we're always buying dirt, you know?

6:32No, no, no, bad dirt. No, he was so nice. But the craziest part was that it was like anywhere I went for like these things, like there was just like, it was just rolling with country artists everywhere. Yeah. Like the city at that, like for those weekends, it's just like teaming. They're at bars, they're at restaurants, they're everywhere. And they just like don't take themselves so seriously. Yeah. It's so different. It's so different. Than like pop. No one's like a diva. Like everyone's just like happy to be there. Like. And if somebody is a diva, like the whole town hates them. Exactly. You're like not allowed to act like that.

7:00No, it's like, it's unbecoming. And you saw Shannon. And I saw Shannon. And you met Daisy. And I met Daisy. What I have to say. Who do you think Shannon's like best friends with out of all the sisters? You. Really? Yes. I think that too. But like I thought like you would think that it was you and Jackie would think that it's her. No. Because Shannon makes everybody feel so special. She does make everyone feel so special. Shout out. It was her birthday this weekend. No, I think you. I think so too. Because we're like on the same journey. I was going to say you guys both had babies at the same time.

7:24Did you like send her anything for her birthday? Because I sent her flowers. No, I didn't. Okay. But thanks for following that up. You're welcome. I probably should have. So it'll just prove that I'm a better friend. Fine. Yeah. Anyway, I have to say, her home. Is a gorge. Is, it was something I never felt before. Jealous? It was just so, no, not jealous. It was like a Hallmark home. It was so warm and welcoming and perfect. And also with the holidays, I think she had seven Christmas trees in her house. And that's the way to do it. I speak to my Gentile community all the time. Get your trees up and you don't put your whole pussy into it because some of us can't.

8:00Some of us can and some of us would literally love to. I know I'm getting closer and closer. But whenever I talk to Jackie about it, she's so judgmental. She's like, you can't. No, remember our growing up, I always used to be like, Hanukkah bush. I get when you're growing up. Maybe not. Maybe that's a bad example. But when you have your own house and you don't have kids yet, now maybe I wouldn't do it. What if you got holiday tings but not a tree? Yeah, like holiday decor. Your throw pillows turn red. And the ribbons. Yeah, the ribbons, I'm sorry. That's not Christmas. The ribbons are ribbons of Christ.

8:31Like, they are. Are they? They're so Christy. Ribbons of Christ. Like, I know what you're saying. Like, generic holiday decor. Right. But we're celebrating. Are they blue? I guess green and red are not our colors. Like, blue and white are. And what does green and red actually have to do with Christmas? Like, the religious aspect. I mean, like, I do love worship music, but I don't know that. Right. Makes you think. Makes you think. But, yeah. Anyway, it was so fun. Margot. You're being like this so much tonight. You talk like this. We've really never done this at a table. So I was thinking, I love podcasting in this particular studio.

9:03Shout out to Chris and Fringe Studios. Because as a postpartum woman, I just have to do my hair and makeup. And I didn't even do my hair today. It actually is so nice. I feel like whenever I'm on the toes, I'm going to have my thigh. I know. It's like you can really relax and just be your funniest, best self. It's so true. And then the clickety-clack of the table. And also with these bad boys. Yeah, right. Your nails are insanely long. I recently had to cut my nails. They were growing so long. That's a postpartum thing? No, it's actually not. Your nails are supposed to fall off and die. but like I must be so healthy.

9:29Right. And all I do is scratch Ruby when I change his diaper. It's like not I'm having like actual marks on his leg. That's why I had to cut my nails. Oh, but like if you're, you can have long nails and not have them be like janky and then you're fine. It's not about janky. Like you really are not supposed to have long nails but you're changing diaper. Like this would cut him? Yes. Perhaps I need to cut. And it makes it hard to get into the crevices, you know? Yeah, I know. You like to pick his nose. I do like to pick his nose which having a long nail is actually amazing for. True, true. I should have kept like one of my pinkies long like kind of like a blackjack dealer.

9:55Disgusting. Excavating. Excavating his nose. I wanted you to give a brief programming update let everyone know this is the final episode of the week. Of course. Happy Thanksgiving. We're of course taking off a little bit of extra for Thanksgiving. But if it makes you feel any better like I'm off Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Oh, Power G. Okay, we're so corporate. Yeah, we're so corporate. But then also programming update on today's show. I was only able to find four stories and like it's just going to have to be okay. I did want to make it up to everyone. It is Dear Toasters Day our weekly advice segment.

10:21Oh, exciting. Where we do three submissions. And I chose four. So what I lack in stories, I make up four in DT submissions. And I think that they would rather us talk about that than just go on about a boring story no one cares about. Because also, by the way, I can't think of one thing that happened. I know. And I did the episode with Ben yesterday. And usually on a Monday, you have the whole weekend's worth of stories. Oh my God, I felt so embarrassed by the stories. There was truly nothing to talk about. It's just the nature of the time of year. Celebrities are on vacation. They're not making news.

10:47It's true. So it's just going to be a little bit of girly-girl chit-chat today, you know? I love a girly girl to chat. And DTQ. DTQ. So, Sachi, anything else you want to catch up with me on, promote, et cetera, et cetera, before we dive in? No, that's really it. I had the highlight of my life last week, and now I'm just here. Coming down from that high. Yeah, love that. Well, without further, Sachi, are you ready for the Fast Five Stories? I couldn't be more ready. The Fast Five Stories are brought to you by Eero. Do you know Eero? I do know Eero. You do? I do know Eero. I feel like everybody's been knowing Eero and didn't tell me about it until I desperately needed one.

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17:10Alright, Sachi and Lou Freebush, are you ready for today's Fast Five? I am Fast Four. Oh, Fast Four, excuse me. Fast Four. Fast Four. Which one do I want to talk about first? Well, we talked about yesterday that Taylor's wedding venue has been set. Allegedly, it's at Holiday House. Okay, by the way, shocking because that rumor? Of course we talked about the rumor. Oh, you talked about the rumor. And Ben was like, wait, that's sick. Ben could not get over for the girl whose wedding got paid for. How sick that was. So was all of that just a lie? So I imagine that it actually, if she is getting married at Holiday House, which like this was just an insider, like spilling the beans.

17:36It could be not true. But if she is getting married at Holiday House, I could actually imagine her buying out that hotel because it's a nearby place for all her guests. For other people to stay and maybe she's doing like a rehearsal. And she probably has a lot of famous people coming and they want to be like at a hotel where not other like civilians are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But does she pay for that? Of course. So she pays for everyone's stay for her wedding? Yeah, of course. She's a billionaire. I understand. But like, I feel like if you go to a destination wedding, like you don't, sometimes they'll get like a room block.

18:03Are you going to a destination wedding of the most famous person in the world? Like the rules are different. I feel like it's kind of crazy to like pay for everyone. Is she paying for their flights? Like, no, no way. No, not their flights. Not their flights. But once they get to Rhode Island, for sure. And this is the hotel that Olivia Culpo got married at, yeah? Yes. And it's the one that's like, you can see her house from it. Castle Hill. Yeah. Yeah. Castle Hill Inn. I didn't go to that Newport trip. I was about to ask you. We had brunch there. And we were like, gonna stay there. It's like a thing.

18:27It's a thing. We were going to stay there, but it's actually far from like Newport proper where you like do all the vineyards and like the wharf and all that stuff. And it's so expensive. It's so expensive. When there's a Gurney's like right in town and it's like not gorgeous, but it'll do. It'll do. And you spend, when we went to Newport, we were like, we don't want to be, it was COVID. And we were like finally able to like be free from the shackles. So we were like, we're not staying at the hotel. Like we're going hard. We literally left the house at like six in the morning and did not get back till six in the morning.

18:49Love. So it wasn't the type of trip where we were spending like a thousand dollars a night at a hotel. Yeah, Gurney's was like 300 a night and we all split a room. Also, by the way, I feel like it only really makes sense for her to do it at one of her homes because I feel like that's the only place where she can get the closest thing to privacy that she possibly can. Complete control. Like no matter what, there's going to be a staff member at a hotel that's going to snitch. Yes, but what I was saying to Ben is like of all of her properties, it's actually the least private. The beach there is public, so if you stand on the beach, you can like see her backyard.

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19:15I just feel like she's going to like rent out the beach. It's also like up on a hill, so like everyone can just look up at it. I mean, there's going to be like helicopters. When I think of her other homes, I actually don't know what they look like. Don't know what they look like. I don't know what the Nashville one looks like. I don't know what the L.A. one looks like. Like the outside. New York, yes, because it's New York. Right. But I just. It's the only one. That's so true. That we know so much about. It's so true. But it's so, like, it makes so much sense. I know. Rebecca wrote up on the afternoon train.

19:39Get a set. It was sunny. Her salt box house on the coast took the mind of St. Louis. And also, I think she loves, like, the journey of being, like, the next woman who owned the house. And, like, Rebecca Harkness' story. No. she's getting married there and Rebecca used to throw the parties and she's throwing the parties. Like I get it. And she's going to die the neighbor's dog. He died in green. Yeah. I'm sorry. So that's not what the story was. The story is that, did you hear rumors that she was filming a music video in the UK? No. So there was like a rumor, I think it was Jumois and it was like kind of a legit rumor that she was putting together this very last minute project.

20:12Oh, and that she invited all the people that she filmed Graham Norton with. She invited them all to be in the music video. It was like this very last minute thing. And apparently, yes, She flew to the UK to film a video for Elizabeth Taylor. Oh, interesting. You like Elizabeth Taylor? No, it's my favorite song on the album. Right. She's reportedly flying to the UK to film a top secret shoot for Elizabeth Taylor music video. She's super excited to be back in London filming a new music video. This random source told The Sun. Don't you feel like she's gotten like less secretive? Not secretive. Or like more leaks?

20:41Yeah, like more leaks. Exactly. She used to release a music video and we had no idea. But I feel like when she filmed with Taylor Lautner in London. We knew about that one. It was speaking out. I can see you. They're stealing the music. We knew about it. We, like, saw a very blurry picture. I feel like she's just gotten less secure, but I also think she cares less. I think she cares less. Like, she's happy in her life. It's fine. And it's like, okay, and, like, she can build, like, hype, whatever. I just really, I really wanted a music video for Life of a Showgirl, Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, I think of all the songs that I would want a music video for, and I'm definitely biased because, like I said, this is my least favorite song, even though, like, she did slay when she said, be my NY when Hollywood hates me.

21:16Like, it took me a while to figure out what the fuck she was saying. Oh, yeah, no. Be my NY when Hollywood hates me. New York Post is saying this is the perfect place to film because it's paying homage to the British Hollywood icon. I mean, not knowing that Elizabeth Taylor was British. Me neither. I thought she was an American icon. I mean, she's Jewish. I just feel like you can't be British and Jewish. I know you can't. I know. But it just feels weird. I thought she was an American Hollywood icon. She's an icon of Hampstead, North London. There's a plaque with her name on it. So I guess Elizabeth Taylor's London is British.

21:47I'm learning that today. Interesting. I agree. Life of a showgirl would have been great. Breener. Breener. It's free now because she finished. But you know who I saw this weekend? I ran into in the bathroom. Wait, let me think. Where were you this weekend? In the city? Yeah. Okay, tell me what, like, where were you? I was, like, out with my friends. I feel like I, like, can't say. Because I kicked out. Are you a member of? Yes. Oh, okay. Why don't you ever take me? Wait, you knew that. I didn't know that. Oh, I'll take you whenever. I'm like, don't let Ben find out. He's going to, like, seriously steal your membership.

22:12Okay. Who did you see? I mean, it's a true hot spot. Ran into her in the bathroom. We were washing our hands at the same time. Did you chat? Like, do we know her at all? I spoke to her. Do we know her? Like, do we have any connection? We have never, none of us have ever conversed with her. How old is she? Oh, I'm so excited to find out who this was. She's like 22, 21. I love her. Madeline Petsch. No. Am I close? No. Okay. She's like it moment girl. Like. IMG? It moment girl? It moment girl. You saw an it moment girl? I saw who? Tate McRae. Oh, are you going to be okay? No, I literally was washing my hands, and then she came out of the stall.

22:48And what'd you say? And I literally was like, and you're really not supposed to do this. Of course, all those clubs, you're literally going to get kicked out. I know, I'm scared. Please don't, I promise. I kept it cool, and she was so nice. What'd you say? I was just like, I just want you to know, I'm obsessed with you. You're an icon, you're a legend, and you are the moment. Oh, okay, you really bothered her. Oh, yeah, and she was so nice. She's like, oh my God, that is so nice. She's like, you are so gorgeous. And I was like, date please. Are you like familiar with what's going on with her and the kid?

23:12Zach Hughes. Jack Hughes? The kid. Leroy. They're broken up. Yeah. And like she's writing music about him. Oh, am I late? Is there more going on? No. And then she was spotted on a date with someone named Jack Hughes, I think on like Thursday or Friday. Okay. Who's like the cutest NHL player. She loves her ex before Leroy was a hockey player. And then she sang the national anthem at like the big NHL all-star game where he was playing and it was like such a slag. She was so much more famous than that loser. I don't even know his name. I don't even know his name. It starts with a C. And now she's dating.

23:37She obviously reads those smutty Icebreaker books. A hundred percent. And has fixated on dating. But also she loves hockey. She's from Canada. Her brother plays hockey. No, I think she read the books. No, and also that's her aesthetic. She's always in a hockey jersey. Because she read the books. I'm sorry. Nobody likes hockey. She loves hockey. She's Canadian. Have you read those books? Yeah, of course. Icebreaker? Icebreaker. The whole series. So good. I only read the first one. What was it about again? It was about, I think it was a hockey player and a cheerleader or something. Figure skater.

24:05I told you to read the book. You guys, it's such a dumb, embarrassing book. So dumb, but it's so good. Don't read it in public. But I'm telling you, Tate McRae read that book, and it changed, like, forever, like, the path of her life. A hundred percent. Do you think I wouldn't get kicked out? Do I look like I'm wearing lipstick? Yes. No. A light color. Okay, so I forgot my lipstick today. And I was like, it's fine. My sister's cozy with me. Like, she's going to work. She's obviously going to have, like, a lip pencil. She didn't, except this, um, strawberrybomb.com. You're so Gen Z. And it has no color.

24:33I feel like I look sickly. If you're wondering, like, did Claudia get work done? No, I wish. I look different because I'm not wearing lipstick. Oh, and I'm wearing natural hair. I'm basically a man today. In my defense, I wear a lip stain to work, and it stays on for eight hours, so I don't need lipstick. But also, Claudia, you can vouch for this, always has 800 lipsticks here. What? No, I'm just, like, looking. Oh. Oh, my God, I look sick. She has 800 lipsticks at all times. So I was thinking, I was like, oh, I don't need to bring color because Claudia literally has a drawer of lipstick. Not today.

25:00I'm looking at the monitor. I look, like, flesh colored. Like I malnourished. Oh my God, I look skinny. Do you think I'm skinny? I look malnourished. Do you know when you get picked out? Elizabeth Taylor, for sure. Elizabeth Taylor. Do you want us to bleep the place? Yes. Can we bleep the place? Bleep the place. Thank you. No, I'm kidding. Okay, ready for our next story? Oh my God. Okay, this is like news that probably I only care about and I couldn't have planned it better myself. Emily Mariko's pregnant. Oh, I saw that. And that's great and that's amazing and that's not why it made the Fast Five.

25:30It made the Fast Five because she did probably the best pregnancy announcement I've ever seen. So if you don't know the lore, like five years ago. It's so stupid. Emily Mariko made a pumpkin pie. I've actually told this story on the toast because I think it's so funny. She made a pumpkin pie and like it wasn't her best work. She took it out of the oven and like you put it in and like the filling in the pumpkin pie is like liquidy. But it like hardens and like becomes like almost like gelatin like in the oven. And when you take it out, it's like a solid, almost looks like a mousse. Yeah. She made the most liquidy.

26:04She made the most liquidy pumpkin pie. Like, and people just never got over it. When she took it out, like, it was jiggling. Like, it was just horrible. She cut it open and it was, like, melting. Right. Oh, my God. The way they never left this girl alone. Every comment section. Every comment section was. Pumpkin pie. Pumpkin pie, pumpkin pie. Like, every search bar. Guys, it's been literally maybe four years. Yeah. Every video of hers, the top comment, has something to do with the one time she made a liquidy pumpkin pie. Now, this week, she's been making Thanksgiving content. She made, like, turkey and doing prep.

26:35And I saw her playing with the giblets, you know, the inside of the turkey. And then I saw a video where she was making a pumpkin pie. And I'm like, oh, look at. You're like, I'm locked in. Look at Emily Mariko taking her power back. The last part of that video was her putting it in the oven. So it was like this grand reveal. Is she going to take it out? Now, I do think people knew she was pregnant. She wasn't really hiding it. No. You saw her stomach in all of her videos. She had a baby bump. She's so skinny. like you could see she's probably like one day pregnant like you could say but she wanted to announce it in her own time in her own way and i totally respect that so in part two of the pumpkin pie video she makes the pumpkin pie and it's perfect she cuts four slices one for her one for her husband then she makes a smaller one for her kid she already has a kid yeah and then she makes a fourth really tiny piece we see the bump she's wearing a tight shirt 10 out of 10 10 out of 10 literally the best pregnancy announcement like you have internet lore you're poking fun at yourself.

27:24You're finally closing the chapter. Yep, it's over and now you've won. You've won. It's over and you're pregnant. Congrats. Yeah. No, I love her. No notes. No notes. Wait, oh, sorry, because you said the word turkey. How is your and Ben's marriage? I really don't want to talk about it. It's over. Not the marriage, the turkey. Okay. It's officially done. Great. He made... But it's going to start again this week, no? Well, you know that Olivia's making the turkey. Oh, she is making the turkey? Yeah. I was thinking maybe doing a vlog for the Patreon. It's kind of like all hands on deck because Jackie's hosting but obviously Jackie just had a baby.

27:55So what are we doing? Because like we don't cook. You and I? Yeah. I think we're just there like for fun. Yeah. Like personality hires. Should we drink on Thanksgiving? Well, I'm like personally going to be like breastfeeding. Like I'm taking care of a baby. So I have an excuse. I don't know what the fuck you're doing. Well, no one will let me bring Magnolia. Yes, Magnolia has been banned from Thanksgiving. It's so upsetting. The thing is, is she's just too loud to be around a newborn baby. She's not loud. Okay, here's the thing. We can joke, but don't be delusional and don't lie. she's really out loud every time you leave the room she barks and barks and barks if I leave the room there are multiple babies in the house like it's just not doable sorry like she can't come and that's not even my role by the way it's Jackie I'm just supporting Jackie yeah yeah yeah I just agree with Jackie but it's not my role yeah no I know so anyway I guess I'll just be drinking be my NY when Hollywood hates me that's literally Magnolia like literally she's stuck in NY because Hollywood hates her agreed oh yeah so Emily Mariko's pregnant Okay, she's 33 with her second.

28:54I'm still on track. Like, I'm not. You're fine. I'm fine. Her firstborn's name is Teddy, like Theodore. Oh. So cute. Oh. And her content since Becoming Mom is actually so cute. It's just very satisfying. I just love her. Yeah. You know, because she's like the opposite of what I would do. Oh, yeah. Do you know what I mean? She's like so, like, quiet. Yeah. So she became, like, world-renowned famous in three seconds. Because of her salmon bowl. Salmon bowl. To the point where, like, everyone was making salmon. So like viral isn't a thing anymore because everything is viral. Yes. But she went viral.

29:26Yes. She was the most famous person in the world. I'm sure like everyone was clamoring to like give her a show and brand deals. And she literally did none of it. I don't even know if she makes a living. She like never does brand deals. By the way, I know. I was saying the same thing. She should have done a show though. She released a tote bag. Do you remember when she released a tote bag? And everyone was like, yeah, the farmer's market tote bag. Yeah. And then she's probably like, I'm never doing this shit again. Right. Humbled real quick. And like if that were me and I got that famous, like bus, club, another club, bus, no sleep.

29:52Yeah. Brand deal, cookware line, merch, like everything. Uh-huh. She's just not money motivated. I just learned the phrase food motivated. Have you heard that? Yeah, of course. It's usually about dogs. Yeah, okay. So Jackie taught it to me about Bruno because she was saying - Yeah, he's food motivated. Romeo's not food motivated. No, Romeo's not food motivated. I am food motivated. And Emily Rico's not money motivated. Money motivated. Emily Rico. Is not money motivated. No, she's not. She's kind of like a commie. It's insane. Or she has elsewhere. Is independently wealthy. Yeah, I'm assuming there's a trust fund.

30:22Probably that. Mm-hmm. All right, this next story is kind of crazy. Because you know they're always, like, picking random people to host New Year's Rock and Eve with Ryan Seacrest? Oh, yeah. Who is it? Julianne Hough. Oh, wait. Why is that weird? Oh, they dated. For many, many years. Are they doing it together? So they're set to reunite. Are they both single? She is hosting with Rob Gronkowski in Vegas. Oh. But it'll be, like, throwing it back to Ryan. And, like, it's weird. Sorry. That is kind of weird. The thing is, she's perfect for the job. She's, like, a darling of ABC with Dancing with the Stars.

30:49She's proven herself as, like, a host. But like is she a good host? Back to you Alfonso. Would you say she's a good host on Answering the Stars? Yes. She's got a lot of energy. She knows her lines. She knows how to read the teleprompter. But I feel like she says like really off the cuff weird things. She does but like I like it. Okay. And I was wondering the same. Thank you. I don't think she's bad at all. People don't like her energy because she's like toxically positive. But you kind of need that. She is doing a good job. And the host before her was Tyra Banks who had a really hard time reading off the teleprompter.

31:17Which made no sense for the record. No but she also just like factually and I love Tyra. and it's crazy because she had her own daytime talk show like you think that she would be a good host like she could not get with the teleprompter right half the job is just knowing how to read the teleprompter in a good like melodic way right yes hey how are you and Julianne does a good job so she's a perfect person for this because she's a part of the ABC family but I'm surprised that Ryan Seacrest didn't like are they both single no Ryan Seacrest like you know he always has a girl oh yeah he like always has like some paid actress like on his arm quite literally it's so weird and I think she's single because you know she got married and divorced the point who was she married to brooks lace i always get that confused with kristen cavallari and jay color okay not the same no i know brooks lace oh they have pictures of like people who's hosted years past rita ora i just want to say i'm kind of like loving rita ora recently the song poison by rita ora is like sing it um fuck it goes so you don't know no no it's like it's so old but it's like every time it comes on it's like no skip like um i drink my poison and it's you choose my poison.

32:17Whatever. Yeah, that's a good one. I picked my poison. I like her. She like married well. Did she? Who? Someone you don't know in the UK who like has a lot of money and it's just been like really good for her. Sometimes you just gotta marry a rich man. Well, because she like just like had to stop trying so hard. She could relax. Yeah, and you know what? I feel like she's more successful now that she's like sort of unclenched. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see her everywhere. I find her like, yeah, I really like her. I've always liked her. So Julianne is hosting with Rob Gronkowski in Vegas. I love Rob Gunkowski.

32:42I don't know if he's the right man for the job. But I love when people, especially the New Year's programming, as I've gotten older, I feel like my whole childhood I watched cable. Yeah. And then I was a drunk alcoholic who couldn't be bothered to be home on New Year's Eve. And I didn't care about the programming. Now that my life has slowed down a bit, I'm very attuned to the programming. The last couple of years I've just sat around and watched a sob. Yeah. And these choices matter to me now. Well, and I feel like it was normally we switch between The Rock and Eve and the country one. The country one is so good.

33:11So I like the alternative programming. Even Miley's, which I didn't love. I love when they try new things. And Dick Clark's is good. Like, it's fine. It's fine. It's classic. It's like when I think Dick Clark's, I just think Jonas Brothers. Why? Because I feel like they always perform for New Year's Rock and Eve. It's actually a good call. Yeah. Andy and Anderson's. Like, I like when there's competitive good programming and I can flip through the channels. Rob Gronkowski and Julianne have this, like, not titillating for me. I just don't think it's stiff enough competition. And I also feel like, tell me if you feel this call, like the last couple of years, Dick Clark's has sort of been like pre-taping a lot of stuff.

33:44Oh, yeah. I don't like that. I wanted to feel upset. I was talking to one of a country artists on the carpet and they were like, we're going to somewhere to film for New Year's next week. And it's pre-recorded. And I was like, oh. It's like that episode of Friends with Monica and Ross, like do the pre-taped dance. Oh, yes, of course. Okay, our first story. I just like seriously can't. Lizzo says plus size women are being erased and society must undo the effects of Ozempic boom. like as she's actively losing weight. I was about to say, but she's not on Ozempic? She says she's not on Ozempic and I actually do believe her and I just feel like ever since she lost weight without Ozempic, she just has a chip on her shoulder.

34:17You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. So she's saying that like people should stop losing weight on Ozempic or people should stop losing weight in general because then that's hypocritical because she's losing weight. So she published a personal essay on Substack, a more annoying sentence that never existed. Everyone on their Substack, I can't. Do you guys have one? No. The title was Why is Everybody Losing Weight and What Do We Do? Sincerely, So she's acknowledging her privilege. Okay. In the piece, she shared that she's currently still weighs over 200 pounds and is still a proud big girl. Said she feels as though plus size women are being erased in the age of weight loss drugs like Ozempic.

34:48So here we are halfway through the decade. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's like a weird - 2025. Yeah. I guess we are halfway. Yeah. Where extended sizes are being magically erased from websites, plus size models are no longer getting booked for modeling gigs, and all of our big girls are not so big anymore. We have a lot of work to do to undo the effects of the Ozempic boom. Okay. She's saying two different things. here. Right. Yes, agreed. She's saying two different things here. She's saying one that like plus size women aren't being included in like fashion shows or being cast in campaigns and that's one story and that's you know, should be fixed.

35:19But then the other story is like that people should stop losing weight. Yeah. And she's also losing weight. Let people do whatever they want. If you want to lose weight, you want to lose weight. Yes. Okay, we should include more plus size people if that's happening. For sure. But the other, let everyone do whatever the fuck they want. No, and here's what's not being said and I feel like I'm allowed to say this because I am a former slash current member of the plus size community and I've taken Ozempic. Here's what's not being said. and why Ozempic is so popular. Like the body positivity movement is great.

35:42Like if you are in a body that you hate, forcing yourself to like it is important. You should not be unhappy. Having said that, the underlying, like the undercurrent of the plus size movement, especially among women, I feel like men are more honest about it, but like we don't want to be fat. Like nobody wants to be fat. Sorry. And that's like fat phobic of me to say, sorry, it's true. Nobody craves to be fat. So when Ozempic came out and it was this actual doable thing to get you out of this body that you've been forced to like, obviously people are going to take that way out. That's okay. So why the body positivity movement is not crumbling, but it's changing is because it was based on the premise that like you couldn't change your body.

36:20Right. Really. Most people are not fat by choice. I would argue maybe there's one person who is. Yeah. I would argue 99.9 % of the fat community is not fat by choice and have tried everything and is just unable to get out of the body that they're in. So that's, what's not being said. Like let's, let's just like kind of say the thing that's like not supposed to be said. Like fat people don't want you to be fat. Yeah. And that's why Ozempic is so popular. Yeah. And please, just like, don't get me started. Even when Bethany was here and I love her, I feel like she didn't have a good take on Ozempic because she doesn't, like, really know the struggle of being fat.

36:46Because she was like, but, like, what about the people who abuse it? Like, how do you abuse it? Like, if you're skinny and you take it. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Like, seriously, ask me how many fucks I give. It's zero. Like, why are people always focusing on the skinny people who take Ozempic? Like, yes, there are people who do it. Is it healthy? I'm not a doctor, honestly. But, like, would you rather them do that or would you rather them, like, snore cocaine? Not only that. And not the person who like for the first time in their life lost 100 pounds. It's so true. I can't help like those people are always the focal point.

37:13Not skinny people, like always being the center of attention. But I also just feel like people have to find anything that makes other people happy, people have to find an issue with it. Like everyone loves. And I'm sorry, like Lizzo saying this when she's literally dropping so much weight. And yes, I guess she still is technically plus size so she can say what she wants. But like she's literally lost 100 pounds. Right. And I think she has said that she feels better and happier than ever. Like, yeah. Let's just not yuck each other's yums, you know? A thousand percent. It's my least favorite quality in people.

37:38Substack? Honestly, that's the real culprit here. A thousand percent. Substack. You know her cancellation was legit because she was taken to Substack. A hundred percent. Is Substack a paid platform? Yeah, it's like Patreon, but for writing. Oh, that's. Yeah, and that's actually how the free press started. It was like a Substack newsletter and it got so popular. So it's actually a great platform. I'm like joking, but. That's crazy. Yeah. Sachi Liu, Freebush, are you ready for Deer Toasters? I'm so ready for Deer Toasters. Okay. Are you ready for Deer Toasters? That's brought to you. Tell me. By who?

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42:57She has told everyone she's bringing him to Thanksgiving, so it's pretty serious. But the issue is I used to, more than five years ago, regularly hook up with this guy. I'm happily dating someone. I hope to be engaged soon. But I just need to know if I should say anything to anyone. Should I give my boyfriend a heads up? Should I tell my aunt? Should I reach out to him? I really don't think he knows I'm related to my aunt because he's not on social media. Help. Okay, but she's 14 years older. We need to rewind. So the aunt is 34. Yeah. The girl, the toaster, is 15 years younger than 34. Is 19.

43:26She's going to get engaged soon? Wait, she's 19. The man is 42. And they hooked up five years ago. Hold on. Hold on. When she was 14. Hold on. Because, sorry, you shouldn't tell your aunt. You should tell the police. Yeah. Because he's a pedophile. Wait, I need my calculator. Okay, so she is 34 and he's 42, which means he's eight years older than her, right? Six, seven, eight, yeah. Okay, so eight years older than her, but this girl is 19. So right now, when she was 19 and he was 27, they were hooking. No, sorry, that's right now. They hooked up, what, five years ago? When he was 37. When he was 37.

43:5937 and she was 14. What? Are we being pranked? Call the police. That's insane. Whoop, whoop, that's the sound of the police. Like, your man's a pedophile. I don't care about, like, the - And also, what's the expectations? Like, okay, say he doesn't know that you guys are related because maybe he doesn't know, fine, whatever. So then the expectation is like you guys all get to Thanksgiving and then you see each other and then he puts it together and then what? Right. That's what she's asking. So I want to say two things. Like maybe we have the numbers wrong. I think maybe there might have been a typo.

44:27A typo. Let's say there was a typo.

44:33Let's say there was a typo. How do you handle this awkward situation? I don't think you should be like in cahoots with your aunt's man like talking behind her back. Agreed. And would you say they hooked up a few times or they dated? Not that it makes sense. I used to regularly hook up. Regular. Just giving just like. Yeah, yeah. Do 14-year-olds regularly hook up? Not that I know. And what does hook up mean to you? Sex or make out? Oh, um. I think sex. Yeah, because I feel like usually it's like people are like, oh, we made out. Yeah, yeah. But like when I was in high school, like hook up meant like make out.

45:02Right, in high school for sure. Yeah, I guess like ever. No one in high school is being like, oh, we did. Yeah. For sure. So you have two options here. Call the police. Mm-hmm. Or if we're not doing the math right or maybe you had a typo here. I would just be honest with your aunt. With your aunt. Yeah. Yeah. Don't talk to this guy. Don't talk to this guy. She can tell him. Yeah. And also just be like, I don't care at all. Yeah. No, no. Just say no. Just like people need to know things. Yeah. Just like sharing information, being communicative. Right. Let's communicate about the fact that your man's a pedophile.

45:33No. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Or as the internet calls him an MAP. Minor attractive person. Minor attractive person. Yeah. You know how like you can't say like. Pedophile? Like you can't say homeless. It's unhoused. Right. Like they come up with new words for everything. Map. Minor attracted person. I really can't. People are so fucking disgusting. I really can't. Including maps. All right, are you ready for another holiday-themed detoasters? Detoasters. My husband's brother does something I just cannot get over. Every holiday, Thanksgiving, Easter, Christmas, he invites the whole family over for a big dinner, which sounds really nice, right?

46:05There's a catch. He charges everyone$25 to come. The first couple of years that I was dating my boyfriend, I had no idea my husband would quietly Venmo him and then never told me. But once I found out, I was so shocked. Honestly, am I paying for a reservation or going to a family holiday? I told my husband that I'm not going anymore if we're basically at a restaurant guest at his brother's house. My husband agrees that it's weird but won't say anything to keep the peace. So am I overreacting or is it totally justified in refusing to go to a pay-to-eat family holiday dinner? Okay, like it is weird but I kind of get it.

46:35My girl, same. By the way, I'll just be clear. You say, am I going to a restaurant? I hope not because you're only paying$25 for a Thanksgiving feast. Now let's talk about the burden that is hosting your family. A hundred percent. The financial burden, the time burden, the cleaning. Like, it's not nothing. It's not nothing. But I think a lot of people feel a responsibility to, like, get your family together during the holidays. Because if you don't during these times, like, when will you? So it is, like, a huge responsibility. And while I would never, I do see somebody, I don't know, I don't think it's that crazy.

47:06I don't think it's that crazy. On a social scale, it's, like, a weird thing to do. What's your family? But logistically, like, that's what I'm saying. We were talking about Thanksgiving. Like, Jackie's hosting everybody. But everybody's, like, pitching in in some way. Right. Because it's a big thing. Oh my God. It's an undertaking. It's an undertaking. I kind of like, it's so crazy. And like, I would fucking never. Like, I'd rather be dead. Yeah. But I kind of understand it. If you have the balls to ask, like, I do get it. Also,$25, I'm sorry. It's not a lot. But you know, it's just a good time to bring up the fact that you've never hosted me at your apartment.

47:36You have come to my apartment once before a concert and we had a drink. Yeah. I don't think I was like offered like a snack or anything. Like, you don't host. I'm not. I don't host. I feel like I'm always having people over. You are. I did Yom Kippur. I did Rosh Hashanah. No, you always are. I have a couple things to say. One, I don't have a dining room table. And I just feel like if you really cared, like you would have a dining room table. No, I don't care because I don't want a dining room table. Okay. And two, like you have a husband that's a chef. So like he really puts, does like the. That's fair.

48:03The hard work. But like if I was hosting by myself, like Yom Kippur, I didn't cook anything. Like we ordered bagels. I offered to host. Yom Kippur. Yeah, but you don't have a dining room table. Right. So exactly. But also like you don't want to come to me. Like you want to just like roll out of bed and go into your living room. I know, but I'm just saying like, it would be nice for me to offer. Yeah. We're not coming. Don't worry. We're not coming. We want to sit at a table and not like, you know, walk through beer cans. What do you think? What do you think? You're just young. Like that's what young people do.

48:29I don't live at a frat house. Is there like cigarette butts on your countertop? Oh no, I don't smoke cigarettes. I kind of wish I did. That'd be cool. I know. I'd be so skinny. Like the skinny cigarettes I feel like are in right now. Like I feel like I, in another life. When I was at NYU, I fucked so heavily with a pink Capri cigarette. It was pink? No, the box was pink. It said Capri on the outside. Capri, Capri. I never got into them. It's probably a good thing. So after I quit the vape, I became a chain smoker. Like, it was insane how when I would have a cocktail, like, I would literally, like, be, like, a rat on the street bumming cigarettes off of people.

48:57Kathy. Little Kathy in her cigarettes, yes. It took me, like, a couple of weeks slash months, and I got over it really quickly. But I do miss those days. When I was in St. Bart's, I just, like, smoked because, like, I was in St. Bart's. Right, of course. like me and Taylor Strecker like chain smoking and then Taylor Jonahue and Ben like screaming at us like they're so lame what do you mean Ben no one loves a cigarette more than Ben yeah but like not like I was like you do it sober like when I woke up oh yeah yeah that's crazy I'm in thin body like that's what you do yeah sorry back to this girl oh I do think like you not going you're only hurting yourself like family and also causing issues for your husband this is holidays like this is just what you do like you deal with weird family members what you're gonna have dinner alone cause you wanna pay$25 like please You'll probably end up paying more for whatever dinner you're going to have.

49:40Put yourself in his shoes. Like, he's the one hosting. Do you offer? Like, are you Margo? Like, do you, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's fair. Like, he's the one doing it. So, you know what? Just, like, pay the two cents. Pay the two cents. All right, next up. This one is so crazy. It's not holiday themed. Our next two are not holiday themed, but I just chose them because they were, like, really crazy and funny. Hello, Jackson and Claude. Sorry. Please help. This one's really upsetting me. I've been seeing a guy who I really like, but I forgot that I told him that my father is Jewish. I practiced Christianity, so we just probably forgot about it.

50:07We started talking about conspiracy theories, and he started talking about how apparently there's a conspiracy theory out there that denies the Holocaust and what the Jews went through. He gave really intricate details that were so anti-Semitic, and when I told him my father was Jewish, he just tried to retract everything. He said, it's just a conspiracy theory. It's not what I believe. What should I do? I also love you guys. Love the Jewish culture beyond. Girl, run. Run! Run, Joey, run. Joey, run. Joey, run. like girl go that's crazy because like that's like there's a lot of it's not jewish no that's there's a lot of conspiracy theories that like i could maybe get on board with of course that is not one of them no that's so crazy to even like bring up because i feel like everybody like dabbles in conspiracy theories it's like fun and funny like beyonce and carrie blue ivy whatever harmless ones like that yeah but there's two types of conspiracies like fun ones and then people who are like actually crazy yeah and i fear you might be dating like a truly crazy person and anybody he even brings up okay actually let me just say how did he say it like was he like do you know that like i felt like the reason why she's writing this in is because it was said in not giving the benefit of the doubt no literally stop that's so jewish of us i know i know how they done like yeah no run yeah sorry and i'm sorry that you had to sit through that yeah that's not right no it's not that ain't right but i just want to say what like if we're just talking about conspiracy theories like i would argue like one of the biggest conspiracy theories and the craziest ones out there is like Holocaust denial.

51:34For sure. But I feel like he could have been like, well, there is the one that like that, like that denies the Holocaust, but that one's fucking crazy. Like whatever. People are insane. Like that's one way to put it. But it sounded like he was like citing facts. Yeah. And like, I don't know much about Holocaust denial other than that. It's a group of people who deny the Holocaust. And that's because I don't partake in the theory. So I don't know the details, like how they prove that. Right. Like, what do they say about the tattoos on people's arms? Like, what would they say to Mark Schoenwetter?

51:55Like, or. So, you know what? you should have him make a donation to the Mark Schoenmutter Holocaust Education Foundation and maybe go to one of Mark's talks. That's what I would recommend. Agreed. That's his homework. And that's what I say to all dear toasters. Like, no matter where you're going through, make a donation to the Mark Schoenmutter Holocaust Education Foundation. Like, you will feel better. You will feel better. About what's going on in your bridal party, what's going on at work. Like, just make a donation because you know what? It's not that serious. And also, you can find somebody else.

52:15Break up with this guy. Yeah. He's gay. All right. Our fourth and final is so funny, okay? I've been sitting my hairdresser since 2022. We usually do two to three appointments a year for color and cut. She's never asked me to take pictures of my hair or make any content while I've been there, but she does a ton of Instagram reels and content, and she has a decent following. Am I ugly? Does she hate me, or do I just need to ask? Oh. So there's two possibilities. You could be ugly. Sorry. But I don't think that's it, because also it's about hair. It's about hair. By the way, she could easily not show your face.

52:46Right. Like a lot of times when I have someone to do my hair. Maybe you don't have good hair. Or. Like you have great hair. or, or, not you being so negative, or I think that hairdressers like are kind of sensitive about asking. They don't want to, like, what's worse than asking somebody if they can make a reel of your hair and they say no, you know? Right, or they, or. Maybe she just doesn't feel like you guys are that close like that. Like that she could ask. Maybe the people that are on her reels are people she knows personally, people she's been doing for 10 years. Or like people like, do they have a following and is it like in exchange for, you know?

53:21or you have three strands of hair. Right, right. I need to see a picture of your hair. It's not about you being ugly because most, a lot of times when I get my hair done and they ask me to take a picture and I'm not wearing makeup, I say yes, but please don't show my face and they're like, I wasn't going to anyway. Like they're showing your hair like from the back. Because also like they can, it's all from the back. Like haircut. A thousand percent. You know. So I don't think you're ugly. Don't worry about that. You might have three strands. Get extensions. Right. Maybe she'll make it real. Or she just feels weird.

53:45Maybe she doesn't feel like you're open. But like, yeah but like should she be like next time like oh by the way like if you want to make a video no it's just like so awkward like also she didn't ask who cares so true like don't even bother so true and like or if anything if you really want a reel for you be like hey can we make one and you make it and then you open up the door of course yeah i guess like it is funny like but if i was a hairdresser i would die if somebody said no so like maybe you're really like cautious about who you ask. Right. Right. Like you just like have to know or it like has to come up.

54:18Right. Or it's a person who does social media for a living who like doesn't think it's weird. Right. Like regular, degular people don't want to be making transitions. Exactly. And also like they'll go to the hair salon and they're wearing makeup and they're like I'm just here to get my fucking hair cut. I wouldn't take it personally unless like take a good like do it as Jackie says we always say this with Dear Toasters like do an audit of your hair. Is it like featureable? Right. Or is it not? Maybe if not Go to NutraFall.com. Use code host. Truly. Truly. Sachi. It's been a pleasure. Cloudy. Thank you so much for being here.

54:51Thank you so much for having me. Tell everyone. Follow me. Threaten everyone. Follow me. At Margossary. M-A-R-G-O-S-H-R-Y. You can follow my adventures. Every week it's something new. I don't really know what it is, but, you know, it's fun over here. And love ya. Bye. Thank you guys so much for listening. Oh, have an amazing Thanksgiving. Oh, happy Thanksgiving. Thankful for you. Oh, Sechi, what are you thankful for? Thankful for yo. No, for real. What are you thankful for? Oh my God, I'm thankful for Magnolia.

55:20I'm kidding. I'm thankful for my family. Not Magnolia coming first. No, I'm thankful for Magnolia. I'm thankful for my family. I'm thankful for my friends. I'm thankful for my beautiful life and happy, healthy. I'm thankful for my nibblings. I'm thankful for it all. What are you thankful for? I'm thankful for Hashem. I was just going to say, I'm thankful to the Lord, first and foremost. as Joey Camasso lovingly put it. I am thankful to the Lord. The Lord guides me. I'm thankful to Dr. Fox. Yes. I'm thankful to my family, of course. My little, you know, I have an immediate family now. And then I also have like a family, yeah.

55:58I'm thankful to everyone. I'm thankful to all of our listeners. We have the most wonderful listeners who just show up every day and listen. Or watch. Or watch. Spotify or YouTube. Thankful to the listeners, really. Thankful to Jackie, who was such a great business partner, friend, and CEO. Excuse me. CEO this year. Thankful to Ben. Thankful to you. Thankful to everyone. But mostly the Lord. Mostly the Lord. Like dead ass. I'm not even being serious. I love the Lord. No, same. And I don't know why saying Lord instead of like God or Hashem feels like so non-Jewish. I know. That's why I'm confused why you keep saying it.

56:32But when you open up a C-door or like a Chumash and you go to the English transliteration, it says Lord. Translation, not transliteration. It says Lord? Yeah. So our Lord and Savior? Does that still matter? Lord and Savior is Christ. Got it. Because we don't say Savior. Savior, got it. But Lord just means like Lord. Lord, God, Hashem. Lord without the E. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the frizzy haired singer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lord, drop the E. The creator. Love you. Yeah, he's the original creator. He's the OG. Content creator. Content creator. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast on the Lightning Morning Show, where we deliver the Fast Five Stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube.

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