The A-Lister and The Influencer: Tuesday, April 29th, 2025

31:49You saw what I was talking about about myself. I guess you just said it on the show. No, I don't, because your marketing is so subliminal, very Josie and the Pussycats. Because I'm so much more than just a marketer. Correct. But Martha's a queenie. Big time. especially for never having ordered in like that's authenticity aside from the commercial that's restraint I think a lot of us wish we've never ordered in it's never like the most amazing food it's convenient it's easy sometimes it's cheap like it's not like the most amazing culinary experience but sometimes it's like I don't want to cook I don't want to go out so it's like the easiest way so the fact that she's never given in to like just what's easy that's shocking her restraint is something to be admired it is it is are you ready for our next story for four yeah um a little jojo siwa update because jojo siwa has come off of big brother and she and chris hughes are revealing their relationship status after celebrity big brother uk so we hadn't talked about this on the main show but there's like something major going on and celebrity big brother UK Jojo C was one of the contestants and fans were very quick to notice this like very um we talked about it on Patreon yes this very uh kind of touchy lovey-dovey close friendship relationship with a man named Chris Hughes now Jojo is obviously a lesbian we know this for a couple of years and she just wasn't acting like one right and at first I think it could have been explained away I definitely thought I'm like it's fine like I didn't think much but the more it progressed and like the hugging and the hot tub and it was a lot the show came to an end it came out that jojo and jojo has a girlfriend this whole time jojo's girlfriend and her have broken up a them friend okay jojo and her partner have broken up kath them friend it's um yeah they're no longer together which obviously sparked rumors even further.

33:54And now we're like, we've had all these questions, right? We're just watching this feed. They don't know that the world has become fucking obsessed with them. And now they've said it. And then JoJo did say, she was like, I'm not the L anymore. I'm a Q. Oh, right, no. Yeah, JoJo was having a conversation on the show with someone and she was like, you know what, this whole time. Okay, so Chris Hughes is the guy she's been flirting with. He is straight. He's from Love Island. Then she was talking to someone else. Don't know his name. And she said, like she was just, you know, they're having a nice conversation being like, you know, this whole time I thought I'm lesbian, but I really feel like I'm not.

34:27I think I may be more queer. Yeah. And people were, you know, guessing what that meant. Now, obviously, it could have been a direct correlation to Chris because she's having feelings for a man. So it was a lot of moving parts that really all led to one conclusion. Yeah. Well, before like this week, you thought that maybe it wasn't about Chris, that maybe she was just like attracted to more non-binary people. Yeah, I had seen women. I had seen people explaining being like, well, maybe she's not in love with Chris. Maybe what she's saying is that a lot of the people she's attracted to aren't identifying as women.

35:04So does that make you a lesbian if your partner is they? Right. So maybe that's why she said she was queer. Maybe it's not Chris Hughes related, but it could have been Chris Hughes related. And so I think she, it is Chris Hughes related and she's attracted to more than just women because she is attracted to Chris. So they were asked about their relationship now that the show's over and they're doing press. She said, obviously we're close. Obviously we're tight. He said, it's just a really strong bond between two people, which is just a strong friendship. And I think you can have like a soulmate friendship.

35:33And to me, it's like that energy of where it's not like the standard friendship that you have with your friends, but you know, it's still a friendship and it's just nice. No, for sure. But what about like all the hugging and kissing? I think they're on their way to dating. I imagine this is a very confusing time for them. They just came off a show where they're literally like lab rats and the whole world was watching them. She's figuring out her sexuality. She just broke up with her them friends. So it's not like she's going to jump into a new relationship right now. She's leaning on her friend, Chris Hughes.

35:59And then I think in a few months they will be dating. Or not. Or just being in that house all cooped up together like gives you ideas. And then you get out in the real world and you're like. It's camp goggles. Correct. So there's a chance that they date, but there's also a chance that they don't date. And I don't think it has anything to do with them not being attracted to one another. I just think it could be like, you know, a result of the experiment. The big brother goggles. I agree. Right. The BBG. Though he, I'm looking at one still photo of them and he is, looks to be in love with her. And he also looks handsome and.

36:30He's very handsome. So like, why not give it a spin? You're in the house. What else is there to do besides fall in love? If you're like a young eligible person. Win the game. conspire sure you want to get all serious about it you know channel your energy towards victory yeah the stakes are less high when you're a celebrity big brother I think it's for charity you know well obviously the stakes are high for charity but like when it's regular big brother it's like life changing money so you can't be bogged down by relationships but people go on celebrity big brother because it's popular and it makes them famous and talked about like we're talking about right now so but I also imagine like once you're in it you're in it to win it i mean it also depends on your personality type right like i know if i was cast like i would be such a fucking crazy person i would win no same like i'm so competitive i would have i just wouldn't go on it because i just wouldn't want to see that version of myself everyone in the house would hate me like i can't help but once i'm like i'm not interested in playing but then you got me in oh bitch i'm gonna win there's literally nothing more to do i'm not gonna fall in love with chris hughes so everyone would hate me i'd be focusing on like how I can make a poop in private because that's like definitely a concern.

37:39But other than that, like I would have to win. In it to win it. And who did win? Correct. Doesn't even matter. Let's ask. Let's ask our third co-host, Chat. Chat? Chatty. Who won the season of Celebrity Big Brother UK? Do you have the app on your phone or something? I do. Do you not? No, I always like logging on desktop. This is going to be a spoiler alert. So just if you're watching. Wait, is the show over? Oh, yeah, because someone won. We're ready. Spoiler alert. Here we go. Hold on. Or not. The winner hasn't been announced. Oh, maybe they just got kicked off. Oh, maybe the show's still going on, but those two are out.

38:24Cool, cool, cool. Because the 2025 season concluded, though, on April 25th, three days ago. however however as of now the winner of this latest season has not been publicly announced that's weird excuse me what kind of show is this i don't know what kind of business you win that's confusing and imagine how cath feels tuning in every day to see her girl see their girl we're talking about cath so like that's a win for cath no to like slowly watch your partner like fall in love drift away and you're like hey what about me yeah what about what about us no i'm sure kath is enjoying being talked about but like she literally had to watch in real time her partner move on from her them i can't explain how like i just i oddly don't feel bad for kath i just like just looking at pictures of kath and jojo and i feel a little bad for kath I think Jojo has like really toxic bad taste in women just based on like the little bad girl person based on the like limited knowledge I have of Jojo's relationships there's like always drama and like always and I just feel like she's not being like instructed she needs she's a dating coach you know yeah okay no I'm making generalizations like Chris Hughes would be a good choice for her i honestly don't know enough about chris i haven't seen anything really bad about like when people talk about him they're like oh my god he was the best love island yes right right no he's kind of beloved in the uk yeah and big brother celebrity big brother uk isn't a very important show to me because of gemma pretty much i would let gemma know that she is a fat cunt and the shoes that she gave me were not the type of shoes I would wear.

40:21They were old maiden type of shoes. And she said that those shoes were meant to be worn on a beautiful woman. So if that's the case, she should have put them back on the rack because she was not qualified to wear those shoes. And I think Gemma's just a disgrace to women who are actually beautiful. Somebody lied to her several times and told her that she was fly, hot, and sexy, and beautiful. And she's nothing like that. She's nothing of the sort. Nothing of the sort. Nobody has ever been read to filth so disastrously. And on a whim. Like, you know, New York Pollard. It's just like a confession.

40:58You just fart out. Yeah. Yeah. She didn't prepare any of these remarks. Like, it just flowed out of her, like, vomit. And it's so. Eloquent. Brilliant.

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45:28She's wearing heels. She's wearing heels. So they drop the pink paint on the family. And obviously it gets on the floor just like, you know, Nickelodeon. And she's so excited. She like jumps up. She makes her next move and she starts slipping on. Almost like a cartoon. Like when you like. Which is extra. Like it's not just like, oh, she slipped. Like it's just like scary because she's pregnant. Like this is a pregnancy. No, it gave me such a pit. Yeah. The gender, there are certain gender reveals that are like famous gender reveal videos, you know, where it's like the mother-in-law comes and like hugs the son.

46:01Like there's a million, I feel like this is going to go down in history as like one of those gender reveals. For sure. And I'm sure that like, that's what she wanted for her. I mean, it's a huge gender reveal and she is like, this is what she does is like make viral content. And as long as she's okay, which I do think she was okay. She never hit the ground. She never hit the ground. She's just a little like wobbly and a little scary. That happened to me last night. I slipped getting out of the shower. It was so scary. I know. I wanted to yell at Ben so badly, but I was the one who made the floor wet.

46:29It was all my fault. I just feel like he should be cleaning up the floor after you when he's wet. Or leave my slippers out for me. What about a bath mat? We have two. What about a third? I know. We need to carpet our bathrooms. It's true. I'm sure overall she's happy because it's gotten so viral. Yeah, and that's literally how she pays her bills. I thought what you were talking about, influencer drama, are you at all following like the keto girls ozempic thing no okay let me tell you you probably have seen this girl she her name is janelle she's a nurse but she's a big tiktoker as of a few years ago she invented like the um bell peppers with cream cheese and everything but the bagel seasoning like that trend okay janelle nurse do you know her face i'm gonna have to give them more information nurse tiktok hold on she's like a mom she's still a working nurse janelle ronor ronor yeah no i don't know her okay so but you are probably familiar with her cultural impact the uh the boats of cream cheese on bell peppers and i didn't know that was like you know she started that thing i just thought people eat like things but no no like that was her she like brings these like weird crazy snack she's always been keto um and then her keto snacks like went super viral now she does like macro or whatever she's like a diet person and she's always been like very healthy looking i would say she probably had like like a normal like 10 to 15 pounds to lose and she was always like actively trying to lose that i lose weight okay yeah and then like a year ago like she started to lose the weight that was epic and well she had said that you know she actually wasn't doing keto anymore she was doing macro and she had all these amazing recipes and she started selling her like course right um like here are my macro tips my i don't know what exactly was in the yeah where you like weigh the food i know what those are she sold like a program a program and you know she for as long as we've known her like this kind of stubborn weight that she hadn't lost she did it wasn't significant loss but it was like i think a lot of women relate to that especially women with kids it's like those last 15 to 20 pounds like just will not go the fuck away yeah so i think her program was actually quite successful.

48:41Then she decided, and there has been like whispers about her being on Ozempic. Just because she lost the weight and she couldn't. After all this time. But she also switched to macros. Right, right. It could be explained. She did then very strangely voluntarily share. It's not like she was exposed. She shared that she as a part of her like working with this new doctor like a couple of months ago the macros, they switched to macros and they also got her on a GLP-1. she was sort of like you know brushed up we gotta read you everyone the interwebs like they freaked now now like the running line is like of course like we don't care if you're on osempic but like don't sell us your program and like while i agree like you you can't lie like sell a weight loss program while also being on osempic and just not sharing that it's like no suddenly everyone's fine with osempic like we're fine with it but you know your program yeah but what but the but if the program like actually is designed to help you lose weight really i think it's perhaps if it worked for her if it's i think it might be designed to help you lose weight in conjunction with a glp1 said the program like imagine people got the program and no one's losing weight it like that would be the headline but the thing is it's just it's a very um misleading way to sell something when it's like about like this is the program i did well it's like a major part of what you did isn't included and not being shared.

50:02It's so Brooke Windham. I was getting like those actions. Yes, it's Brooke Windham. She's Brooke Windham. And by the way, I stand with Brooke Windham. She's getting fucking eviscerated. She has now offered refunds for her program. Yeah, so much so that like when I was at dinner last night with my friend Margo, who like doesn't know anything like about the internet, like she was like, did you hear about Janelle? And I was like, I did. I don't have a horse in this race. You know, this is not my plate, literally. I don't know. I just feel like if you're buying a weight loss program from an influencer, I mean, cause she is a nurse.

50:36No. And it's like, it's a good program and it's a healthy way to live. Right? Like if you were enjoying the program and like, I understand why it's deceptive, but it's not like she was like, you know, giving you calteen bars and you're gaining weight and you think you're supposed to be losing weight. Like you're following a program that's designed to be healthy. The science is the science. She accelerated her weight loss with GLP one. So could you. Slay. Slay. So could you. Roe.co. Roe.co. Like, I understand why it's deceptive and people want, like, complete honesty and they want to see, like, your person's insides when they're an influencer.

51:10But, like, she sold a program for healthy living. That's what you bought. You liked it until you found out something else about her. It's, like, I could see why people are making it a huge deal. But if you take a step back, like, it's a program for healthy living. Like, macros go off. Shall we dive into Deer Toasters? We shall. Okay. Our weekly advice segment every Tuesday, Jackie and I try to help out three swirlies in need. Feel free, if you ever need advice, write in to us. These are all real submissions from real listeners. Deartosters at gmail.com. That's the email you can write into. Or you can head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com.

51:42There's a little submission box when you scroll down. It says Deartosters. It's totally anonymous. All right, ready? Let me get to the top. Okay. Hey, swirlies. I've been dating my now boyfriend for almost a year to the day. He's wonderful. Our relationship is 30, flirty, and thriving. Background? I gave up social media for Lent. So when I got back on, I was suggested a local micro-influencer to follow. I discovered that it's his ex-girlfriend of seven or eight years. We're in our late 20s, early 30s. I then come to discover my boyfriend and his ex are sharing custody of their two dogs and I had no idea.

52:15Do I confront him about this? Do I let sleeping dogs lie? I'm shockingly not rattled by this at all, but should I be on a rampage? Thanks, love ya, bye. Your boyfriend has two dogs part-time and you didn't know and your relationship is so flirty. and thriving? I don't think they live together so I guess like they have visits? Like the dogs are there or you know you're not keeping track. I don't know. Somehow she was able to. You don't see dog food? You don't see a dog toy at his place? No I think she knows that he has dogs. I don't think she knows that they spend significant time with his ex-girlfriend.

52:47If you never one time you went to his house and the dogs weren't there and you sit and say where are the dogs? Right like has he been actively lying or keeping this from you? That's an important distinction i don't love people who are comfortable just like not sharing things it makes you feel like well because you're not sharing this you're fucking your ex-girlfriend right like the the lie is what makes it there's nothing wrong with sharing custody of your dogs but lying about it to your current girlfriend that's what makes it that's the crime of course it's always a cover-up never the crime are tom and katie still sharing a dog i actually think that they are that's insane gordo i agree i don't know what the right thing is and i've never dealt with it i imagine it's incredibly difficult but I think and I feel like we just had this conversation about Caitlin Bristow right because she had all that like dog drama with both of her exes you have to clean break it and it's very hard like in a marriage like that's Tom and Katie and I think they got those dogs together Tom and Katie I actually probably I understand is probably one of the more difficult situations like if somebody came into the relationship with the dog still getting together every few days to exchange the dogs is absurd more absurd than like one of them and they have two dogs and so i actually think the dogs should stay together though you could split them you could split them separate separate the siblings i wouldn't do a parent trap style they'll meet at the dog park one day and say hallie october 11th sisters no hallie twins but you know what i do feel like in every relationship like there's the person that should keep the dog right like who do first of all like the dogs always gravitate towards they like let's say something were to happen between ben and i i unfortunately think at this stage like romeo would go with ben rodeo would go with ben yeah you're saying bruno would go with you i'm saying theo would go with you oh oh but theo like literally became them yeah ben is like such an active parent it's like annoying i like i don't even stand a chance with these dogs like they like they love me obviously and they lay in my lap but the second Ben sits down they literally get up out of my lap and lay in Ben's yeah I think you just have to like rip the band-aid off and and you have to it's painful but like requires emotional maturity that like people should acquire so are you suggesting that this particular girl kind of demands that her boyfriend stop sharing custody oh no it's not for you to demand it's like the girlfriend who's looking right her way you look crazy but I'm just saying in general like this is a practice that's not really healthy it's very millennial core it's really crazy silly but for this girl um i'm glad that you're not upset i would just be like a little concerned any like partner who's comfortable hiding things from you it's not a great trait so i would bring it up just for the sake of like transparency being like are you keeping something like kind of major for me it's just like your dogs don't live with you half the time your dogs are gay yeah them and i feel like like the custody situations it doesn't go on forever right it eventually fizzles out i don't know because tom and katie i would have expected it should fizzle when you get a new relationship if at like that is so crazy how much of your life you spend shuttling back and forth to get the dogs like i know that's what you do with children human beings but like for the dogs some people's dogs are their children like it's their it's their life.

56:08I get it. I do. And honestly, like we're talking a big game. We're talking a big game, but like let's say Bruno was ripped from your house. Like you'd be devastated.

56:21You would. Of course. Yeah, I would face my devastation. Or you would try to make it work. Especially for people who don't have kids. Like it's, why not? Unless you're on like really, really bad terms. It tethers you to the past and you need to move forward. Or if you're on really bad terms like you can't even see this well i would say if someone did something so egregious then you get the dog they don't get the dog yeah they don't get the dog yeah that would make it really clear and easy right it's situational no one cheated right and i think you know tom just went on katie's podcast so like they're actually in a really good place like friendship wise so i think it's fine for them to see each other like every week um but it's hard like it's emotional too do they have like a play like a time when like they would stop i don't know What if one of them gets married?

57:05I think maybe, you know, dogs don't live forever. Yeah. So maybe that's sometimes you think until the end of the dog's life. If they're older. But what if they're young? And then what if you do have kids and then your kids have a dog part-time? Well, I think once you have kids and your kids love the dog, you win. But then the person's left with nothing. And you know what? They'll have to live with that. It's devastating. It is. it is but a kid kid wins you do claudia face your devastation it's no it's situational it's completely situational you can't make general issues it's just prolonging an issue and like you should just jackie we are getting off track from this particular girl how do we help her fascinating conversation does she confront her man about this yes he should not be comfortable having secrets speak to him about the fact that he's doing this and you didn't know but don't try and get between the man and his dog yeah don't don't make issue with the fact that he shares custody the fact that he kept this huge part of his life from you it's a big thing custody yeah but i don't know how do you bring it up i saw your ex-girlfriend on instagram no why just being like by the way this the way it happened to her she didn't do anything wrong this thing was served to me i saw your dogs on instagram and do you say your dogs are gay or no that's a good question nobody wants to hear it you have to say your dogs are yay that's what you say No, you have to talk to him about it.

58:30You can't get away with lying. No, no, you have to talk to him about it. Use your judgment as to how. Okay, we have a little interfaith drama. I'm listening. One of my best friends is getting married this summer. The man she's marrying is a total P-jom. He's Jewish. She's non-denominational Christian. The problem is that she's very against doing the horror at their wedding, even though he told her how important it is to him and his family. She claims it would be offensive to her religion and to her family. She will not even allow her husband to do it on his own. I tried to tell her she's being absolutely ridiculous and the conversation ended up in a fight.

59:03Am I the crazy one? Is this actually offensive? Of course I don't want it to be in a fight with her, but I also can't seem to get over this. Help. Oh my God. So for those who don't know. Break them up. We'll set them up with Stitch. This is her friend. She said that her friend. Yeah. The Hora is like a dance that's traditionally done at Jewish weddings. It's like a Jewish song. It's just like old klezmer music. You all know it. Hava. Nagila Hava. And then you put, you know, the bride and the groom up in a chair. it's all very celebratory it's really not religious it's more cultural um they do it like at really all jewish weddings no matter how religious you are they actually do it at like non-jewish weddings too it's kind of become like a wedding thing like throwing you in a chair oh if you've seen gossip girl when they go to the bar they do it at bar mitzvahs too they put blair and chuck in the chairs at the bar mitzvah um and it's just it's done at all weddings all jewish weddings big so orthodox reform i feel like if you're entering into an interfaith marriage you have to be and one person's like not converting or anything we're gonna live we're gonna coexist like a bumper sticker you know you have to be a little flexible right this person's like entire you know life philosophy is a little bit different than yours so you have to be willing to mesh and i feel like the horror is such a non-offensive you're not willing to do the horror you're literally gonna give me yeah nothing throughout your life i it's a low low bar the horror i am in love with the horror it is my favorite part of every wedding it's so beautiful to me like jews have been doing the horror at weddings for thousands of years it means so much to me and i don't get like attached to like so many things customs in our like some are that is like my favorite one i need them to break up she's disgusting that you would and that that He has to like beg to do the whore at his wedding when it's like it's so wrong.

1:00:50It's like the probably the most like secular thing at this point about it. Also, some people also do chuppahs, too, because like they're just aesthetically pleasing. Pretty arch. Right. You don't realize. But getting married under like four poles that like create like a little arch is actually a Jewish thing. It's like it's called a chuppah. Yeah. But people do it now because it's like aesthetic. Yeah. So I think she's disgusting. if she's not gonna budge on this then she's not the type of partner who could be in a co-exist bumper sticker relationship because this is like a no-brainer and I think that you should steal her husband.

1:01:24But I also have to - I don't know if you're Jewish but you sound like you really respect the faith. It's true. And I also have to put the onus on the man here. Like if he goes ahead and marries this piece of garbage well then he's not the guy I thought he was. 1000%. It's such a small ask. you know of all the there's so many jewish customs at a wedding like some of them are really extreme like so for him to just ask for the horror which is like seriously everybody knows the horror it's in every movie ever it's like literally not even jewish at this point it's like so cultural make it even more secular by adding like more secular music like you could take out the hebrew like you could do a blendy horror you could do a non-denominational like you could make it work and she's not making it work i don't like her no i hate your friend and i understand like it's not your business but i love that you're a dog with a bone like a dog with a bone for this and i agree don't let it go it's wrong it's so wrong that actually oh the horror oh the horror of this situation i feel sick i feel sick no keep keep going keep play this episode for her and you should like go to her soon-to-be husband be like isn't that isn't she the worst yeah no i mean it really doesn't bode well at the beginning of an interfaith marriage and i i actually have sympathy i think an interfaith marriage is probably really hard when both people are deeply attached to their religion so much so that they won't convert or give up.

1:02:39So it requires a great deal of compromise and, you know, listening and learning. And she just sounds like a bitch, honestly. And open-mindedness. Me be open to your things, you be open to my things. I'm sure there are non-denominational Christian things about this wedding. Has he said anything? No. You're telling me there's nothing religious from your side, right? Well, then if there isn't, then why can't we do my things? Give the man his horror. Give the man his horror. I'd say play this episode for her, but we've been so nasty to her. I don't know. I know. I think I called her a bitch. I called her disgusting.

1:03:13I don't know if it'll be well received. Yeah. I don't think it's going to have the intended effect. Oops. Third and final dear toasters. Hey, Swirlies. My boyfriend and I, both 25, have been dating for a year. We randomly got on the topic of threesomes, and he admitted that he has had a threesome and a foursome. The kicker was that both experiences were with one girl. The rest included his very close guy friends. So three bros, one girl. I was shocked to hear this as he is a pretty shy person and I wouldn't expect it. Am I crazy to think it's weird to have threesomes and foursomes with your guy friends?

1:03:44I was kind of laughing when he told me and I definitely asked him if he swung the other way or, you know, has been on the other team a couple of times. It isn't a deal breaker for me by any means. I'm just curious if this is common with guys. I have guy friends as well. I'm 99 % sure they would never have sexual experiences with each other. He also assured me that he wasn't hooking up with the guys, just sort of waiting his turn. Anyways, I'm laughing writing this. What are your thoughts? I mean, there's only one thing to say and Claudia is going to have to be the one to say it. Your husband is gay.

1:04:13Oh, I was going to say something else. Like, I do think that like there are definitely threesomes with multiple guys. Boyfriend. Okay. And they're 25. So I think that like guys can have threesomes with a girl and it not be gay. Like they really just stand around like watching and waiting and they don't like, you know, jerk each other off. Like I think there are non-gay male threesomes. Two men and a girl three. There are non-gay two men and a girl threesomes. There are also gay. Two men and a girl threesomes. Man, girl threesomes. There are curious. So I think it's possible, like, yeah, your man has no, like, gay afflictions or, but the thing is, is, like, it's up to you.

1:04:54Like, right? Like, is that something you're comfortable with, your preference? Like, if he is, you know, doing, like, the more gay type of threesome. Yeah. And so if they all sort of. And she says that she wouldn't mind. Okay, if they all stood around and waited to turn, there's like four of three guys, one girl. Yeah. That's just like, I wouldn't want to be - Sped time management. No, it's like, I wouldn't want to be with someone who would participate in something like that. That's like - It gives an ick, the idea of like you waiting around watching your friend get fucked. Like, get a life. There's just, I can't imagine, unless it's Bonnie Blue, like that there's a good way that that goes down, you know?

1:05:29Yeah, it's kind of gross. Not to be like, you know, kink shamer. Yuck is yums. No, threesomes and foursomes can be very beautiful. But you're right. If you're just like sort of waiting around for someone else. Threesomes and foursomes can be very beautiful. No, like if they're done properly. But like you're just waiting around like for your friend to be done so you can get your turn on the Ferris wheel. Like seriously, it gives loser energy. I agree. And then like. Someone confident and like someone confident would never participate in that. And I would just need to know like at no point in the ordeal, which probably took a while.

1:06:02Like you didn't. Did you touch a penis? Did you kiss your friend? Did a penis touch you? I know, because things, you know, during a threesome, they kind of go flying. Well, not if you're like waiting in the corner for your turn. Right, like in a chair with your pants down. Like, I just think the idea of it would give me the ick so much. Not like that having a threesome is icky, but like you just like sort of stood there and waited around. The logistics of thinking about how your man participated in this would be enough. Even if it's not a gay one. No. It's kind of worse. would be enough for me to no longer be into him.

1:06:37But based on the tone of your submission, like I wasn't getting the vibe that you were particularly bothered. And some people are more understanding than us. I wasn't getting the vibe that you were particularly bothered by any of it. I think she was more so just asking, like, is it normal for your boyfriend to have like threesomes with guys? And I want to say, I do think that there is a world in which like there are guys who have had like threesomes, like the Bonnie Blue type, where you just like wait around and that aren't gay. And it's not like normal, but it's common. I wouldn't worry about it.

1:07:02So I would say like first it's like there's two categories like people whose boyfriends have had threesomes and foursomes and people who haven't. So like let's just take away the people who haven't. Let's operate with like yes some people's boyfriends have had threesomes and foursomes. Now what percentage of that group have it with predominantly male? I'd say 20%. Okay I was going to say 40. Okay let's land at 30. 30%. You're that's you've got peers. No, Dr. I. Fox said yesterday the 30th percentile is actually average these days. He did say that. We were talking about like percentiles of like weight and height.

1:07:40So a doctor is telling you that you are average. There's nothing more I'd want to hear. Yeah, he said 30 % is the average. I said, wouldn't 50 % be the average? He said, not these days. Don't think too hard about it. Right. So congratulations. Yeah. I guess it's like that's like grading on a curb, right? yeah or just like sociologically the elements like people are getting smaller i don't know percentiles are based on like the peers not about but maybe they're based on like throughout history evolution history i have like i seriously don't when they talk about percentiles at the doctor's office like my eyes glaze over i do not understand it percentiles the 50th percentile then that's i think grading on a curve and then you would get a 50.

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