The Andy Reid Thomas Markle Pipeline: Tuesday, June 16th, 2026

9:11Jackie Oshry:So I want to say, I want to give Michael B. Jordan the benefit of the doubt because we talked about him like potentially being set up with Sierra from Rihanna. That never happened. And now, yeah, allegedly he's like liking Soul's Instagram. And last year he was liking Andrina's Instagram. I just want to say, I've not seen one receipt of any of this. A lot of it is just like brain rot from Instagram and TikTok comment sections. I don't know that he's actually done any of these things.

9:36Claudia Oshry:It's like a bit at this point. Oh, if you're attractive and poorly treated on TV, like Michael Jordan is going to court you. He's coming to save you. But it's like, why can't he just get like a date the regular way?

9:49Jackie Oshry:So that's why I feel like he's not actually doing these things. Like, I'm sorry, the man just won an Oscar. He's not DMing people from Love Island. Like, he's just not.

9:57Claudia Oshry:No, and last year and this year. and like he didn't have anything going this year. He didn't have any date or girlfriend or nothing. Because I think it's all lies. It's rumors and nastiness. And then also the rumor that Rihanna set him up with Sierra. With Sierra. Which obviously didn't work out if he's...

10:15Jackie Oshry:No, I'm telling you, Jackie, none of these things ever come to life. Like I think he's... Like seriously, people just like make shit up about him.

10:22Claudia Oshry:I really feel that way. Okay. That makes me feel better because I'm like, what are you doing? Like it's just like now it's just known. Like if you're hot and you're on reality TV, like Michael B. Jordan is going to like your picture. All right. So I'll go on reality TV. I just feel like I just don't know why. He can't get a date or girlfriend.

10:40Jackie Oshry:Well, he's obviously a man of taste because anyone who likes soul. I heard somebody on TikTok say like we're obviously part of souls fandom. So we are soldiers.

10:48Claudia Oshry:Oh, and also when they go to soul ties, like how are they not calling it soul ties?

10:53Jackie Oshry:No. And if everyone was treating her as a fucking equal, like there would be so much lower. We'd be having so much fun. And she's such a queen.

11:00Claudia Oshry:No, but I mean, is everybody on soul side?

11:04Jackie Oshry:Yes. Like the fans, you mean?

11:05Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I took a look at the fandom last night. And what I'm gathering is people hate Zach. Hate. Yeah. And I'm with them. Yeah. But pales into comparison to my hatred for sincere.

11:17Jackie Oshry:No, of course, because Zach is very much the ace of this season. Got himself in a safe couple. Is like trying to win. And also Zach really has an advantage by being like the brother of somebody who's been on the show so he has a real back you know back end knowledge of how things work and how beneficial the show can be for your life and your career the longer that you stay so he's like very much invested in staying on and also like making everyone else look bad like sitting people down and doing audits on their relationships I don't know he's giving me bad vibes uh yeah yeah I have

11:46Claudia Oshry:I have issues but it's funny that he's the villain of the season so far when it's obviously sincere obviously let's let's dive into the show we have so much to do and we're already like bleeding in Talayusa. Okay, so let's get into the Fast Five stories that you do need to know.

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18:37Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Tertwide. You're welcome, Jertwide. Our first story, Wes Wilson is leaving Summer House for season 11 after his contract has not been renewed. So Wes Wilson, Wicked Witch Graham, will not be returning for Summer House season 11 when the show begins filming in the Hamptons in early July. A source has confirmed his contract has not been renewed.

19:02Jackie Oshry:I mean, I find this shocking. I mean, I knew they were going to go one of two ways. And I think that based on what we know about Bravo, like historically they do really like listen to the fans a lot and the fans hate. So yeah, is Ciara going to be there? I don't know. Like I hate this man more than anything in the world, but I like kind of want to hear from him. He's crazy.

19:24Claudia Oshry:Yes, I guess Ciara will be there. I think Liz posted this. Someone had messaged her and they made a really good point, which is like yes west is the drama and we're taking the drama out of the equation but he doesn't actually contribute give us on the show he doesn't speak he just even on the reunion his plan is just to like sit there take it all move on he did that at the first reunion even over the summer like he adds value in the sense that he's like fun and everybody likes him but when you take that away because he's not fun and nobody likes him anymore he doesn't actually do confrontation he doesn't actually do tv and he thinks he can keep coasting i think this must have been such a shock for him

20:03Jackie Oshry:such a shock like i think he's shitting the bad boy of bravo they loved him before this his pants all the opportunities they were doing a summer house extension a different series in the adirondacks or whatever ozarks based on him and like his friend group from growing up i think that he was tapped a lot for like a lot of opportunities within like the nbc peacock family he does a lot of sports like I think that I'm curious if he's off of Summer House or off of Bravo like is he out

20:33Claudia Oshry:like will he still have his Ozark show maybe right maybe he's just off of Summer House that way Sierra can come back because that's what the viewers want to see but I also think like there is an argument to be made that even though he's the drama like he actually doesn't deliver and watching him you know like wallow all summer and mumble some apology like isn't interesting especially if we're going to get from him like what we got at the reunion and I do think like this is him like finally having to like answer for all that he's done I think you know we said like him and Amanda did a job well done they made the show go on but it's like not really him and his actions and his words that are doing it it's like all the stuff that he does off camera and then he brings nothing to camera and I I think the chickens are coming home to roost yeah there is an element of this

21:20Jackie Oshry:it's actually extremely rewarding because I feel that on reality tv and bravo specifically you really get so rewarded for your bad behavior like there's no like even when you think about like all those like sort of like toxic men of bravo it took jack it took jacks taylor like 15 years like actually get fired they do such bad things they're such like bad people sometimes and they just like memes and jokes and merch like it never really i feel has consequences and so for someone to like really behave so poorly have complete disregard for their friends and actually see some sort of

21:55Claudia Oshry:repercussions like it's quite delicious yeah I think he must be very shocked I do think personally like I mean and I couldn't be more different than the Bravo producer so obviously this is what I said I said like I think they should stay which means they're gonna go because yeah we're not aligned I do think like to close out the story they should have been on the next season or the the next few episodes and then go like even think about Tom Sandoval after Scandaball. But Sierra would never show up. Yeah. Sandoval needed to be there the season after Scandaball to answer for all that he did. And then I never want to see him again.

22:28Claudia Oshry:But like for the entertainment value and the storyline and closing out and the narrative, like you do need to see them and hear from them. However, we don't really hear a lot from West. So I don't know what value he was going to add other than just disrupting the household. And I think that Summer House, the show, and the group, like, really relies on being, like, close and trusting each other. And, like, they were all crying at the reunion because he, like, broke up their family. And I think they just want to try and get back to that place of, like, real friendship.

22:56Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I guess the difference is that these people have to live together. So it's like, yeah, Ariana can say, like, I don't want to film with Sandoval, but, like, that's fine. They're still on the show. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, Sierra, in order to be back on the show, would have to then sleep in the same house as them. And, like, that's where I think people draw the line, which I obviously understand and agree with. Yeah. And I guess it was never a question if Amanda was returning or not because she's on In the City now. She's graduated and she was never coming back to Summer House, I guess.

23:19Jackie Oshry:I mean, she might still come back. Who knows?

23:21Claudia Oshry:We haven't heard anything. Is Kyle coming back? Is Lindsay coming back? I feel like they're all going to be on In the City.

23:27Jackie Oshry:Oh, and then I, did they also then announce like who's returning? I didn't see that. So I saw, maybe it was just a rumor, like a list of people, KJ no Dara. Hmm. And I think we should control Z, Dara no KJ. And then Dara made a TikTok. How about this?

23:45Claudia Oshry:No KJ, no Dara.

23:47Jackie Oshry:She made a TikTok like sad girl, like makeup or whatever. Because I guess they are broken up. Oh, they are? Yes, Jesse Solomon confirmed it. I thought on What Happens Live. I thought that the breakup was like fake prank to promote his music. And I thought that was extremely like low brow behavior. So they just filmed the music video before they broke up. Yes. Jesse Solomon says they're working up.

24:13Claudia Oshry:Oh, wow. Okay, yeah. I'm good with no KJ, no Dara. I agree. But then we have like nobody. No KJ, no Dara, no Amanda, no Kyle, no Wes, no Lizzie. And then what's Carl going to do without his friends? So we just have Jesse, Mia, Sierra, Bailey, Levi, Ben. By the way, I thought Levi had a good showing at the reunion. I'll give her a second chance. Yeah, I don't know why they are like cutting her out. Yeah, because she was there. Yeah. And she's, yeah, she's fine. She hasn't done anything wrong. Like, let her be on the show.

24:43Jackie Oshry:I just know I am really curious to see if this is like a cutting of the cord with West and the network completely or just this particular show because I think the network had like a lot invested in him they really um loved him he was like the golden boy you know they the fans loved him like so I wonder if all of that is over or just this particular show because I'm sure Sierra said if

25:03Claudia Oshry:you guys want me back I will not be in a house with them yes of course and TBD about Amanda also So Lindsay Hubbard posted afterwards saying, good morning. Hope everyone slept well last night. I know I did. Woke up with some more thoughts, if anyone cares. One. Where did she post this? Threads. One, maybe Wes Wilson should go on his podcast and publicly apologize to me for using my daughter as clickbait and a decoy to distract from his secret relationship with Amanda. Instead of talking shit about the show, he was so fortunate for me to put him on. Two. What did he say about her daughter? I don't know what he said recently, but when she got pregnant, he had said something like, there's no way that she can be back on the show unless they bring the baby.

25:45Claudia Oshry:I don't think I can babysit. Ew. Yeah. And like, that was everyone's king. Yeah. No, and she didn't forget, which I love. But then also, it's like this summer, they're all like, Westy, you know? Yeah, I know. I know. And then two, she said, West has tried to threaten my career slash show now three times and quite frankly disgusting. No other word to describe it. So I guess by saying that she shouldn't come back with a baby, also saying people shouldn't watch this episode tonight.

26:13Jackie Oshry:Right, right. I love Lindsay Hubbard more than anything in this world, but I just want to say one thing. She's giving like a little bit of Jax Taylor screaming at Lisa Vanderpump like this is my show. Like, yes, this is the house that Lindsay Hubbard built. Like she bled out. She's been on it since day one. I don't necessarily know if like, you know, Wes saying he wants the Knicks to win so nobody watches this episode. like is it a personal attack to Lindsay? I respect her wanting and her ability to make everything about herself. Like as a fellow crazy person, I respect that. But I do feel like some of this is like a little bit of a stretch.

26:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but you know what? Andy spoke about the Knicks thing. And he said, he said, if I were West, I would probably feel the same way. I just wouldn't say it publicly because that's bad at your job. set like going against and rooting against your work like bravo should fire him for that

27:05Jackie Oshry:no and not only that now i'm especially intrigued when they teased it last week i'm like this looks terrible but now i'm like what doesn't he want me to say yeah and it's like a fair thing to think

27:13Claudia Oshry:and like annie said say to your friends or whatever but to publicly say that and like go against the network like that's like that's that gets you fired right this is a job your behavior You're telling people not to consume the product that your job is putting out.

27:26Jackie Oshry:Fired. And it's crazy. Of all the things Wes Wilson has done, the thing that's really getting me to hate him so much, like, in a really effective way is his fucking podcast. His clips, like, he just thinks he's just such, like, a typical, like, he's just, like, a short, relatively unattractive guy. But, like, people think he's so hot. Like, he just thinks he's such fucking hot shit that even after all this, the things he says, like, yeah, that and just other things on his podcast. guess like he thinks he's so fucking like cool and untouchable and his podcast makes him really

27:56Claudia Oshry:unlikable well that's all he has now and i wonder if sophie's gonna still do it with him because

28:02Jackie Oshry:like he's like a nobody now well i think that whatever podcast she was gonna do like it is more culturally relevant now that he is on it so i don't think she would or should kick him to the curb quite yet um because he's not irrelevant like people are still no but soon like people will move on and then he's just unemployed and and then he's like if he's if he's completely

28:25Claudia Oshry:off the network we don't know if he is yeah we don't know if he is and so he probably also isn't gonna like trash the network further because right maybe he's still hoping for ozarks or like to be on in the city with amanda right right but i'm sure he was shocked he really thought his shit didn't stink and like the worse he behaved the more he'd be rewarded for it because how are you

28:43Jackie Oshry:gonna let him go yeah and if he just like got through it we could move on yeah but no so that's

28:48Claudia Oshry:really surprising i thought if we just got through it we could move on yeah i thought that too but no no are you ready for our next story brooklyn beckham takes a jab at his parents david and victoria in a new world cup ad so brooklyn beckham took a swipe at his parents in a new advertisement as his family feud continues to rage on the wow this is so generous of page six the cloud 23 hot sauce founder reference the unemployed nepo baby and wife and nepo baby and husband referenced his complicated relationship with his parents and siblings in a door dash ad shared on his instagram monday it said you're probably wondering why i'm watching the fifa world cup 2026 from home he said in the video while sitting on his couch wearing a sweatshirt and jeans it's a long story he said with a laugh as he tossed world cup tickets onto his coffee table the words then it's complicated and more soon flashed across the screen.

29:45Jackie Oshry:So I think that Brooklyn Beckham is the biggest lowlife of our generation for this. I agree. There are so many elements that make this disgusting. The first is like, you're only eligible for a DoorDash campaign because of who your father is. Right. And mother. And now you're clowning on them in said campaign. Two, I think that also this was like an affront in many ways because you know david and victoria are faces of uber eats they have like a couple of iconic commercials so i just think he's literally disgusting like i fucking hate him for this he thinks he's so cheeky and funny and it's like you're dumb and like i hate him the only saving grace and i don't think this but i just want to put it out there because in the commercial he has a stack of tickets in his hands and he throws them on the counter and if you count them i think it's like six and it's like there are six Beckhams like maybe they're reuniting for this campaign because it says this is part one of a campaign I think it says it's complicated more soon meaning like more stuff's to come there were multiple tickets it's possible that the Beckhams are all doing this together but I don't think that like David and Victoria are the type of people to use family trauma and drama for an ad campaign they're not poor there's absolutely no way you do when

31:05Claudia Oshry:you're like strung out needing money no they're not monetizing the family feud uh also they're not jumping from uber eats to doordash in one year also brooklyn i'm actually not surprised that you're sitting on the couch watching the world cup why would you be there you famously

31:22Jackie Oshry:couldn't hack it as a soccer player so when i see that brooklyn beckham's watching the world cup

31:26Claudia Oshry:from home that doesn't like do anything for me not only does he not speak to his father david doesn't even play soccer anymore like correct why would you be there why david might not even be there if he doesn't really i think he is one like why would you be there after what you wrote about your family and airing your dirty laundry it's genuinely not confusing and i'm not wondering

31:44Jackie Oshry:why you're sitting on the couch watching game and at this present moment i could not hold a lower opinion of this person like dead serious because i think before like obviously i'm teamed david and victoria but there is a part of me that saw brooklyn as like sort of this good husband right And I could have argued both sides, but this is not what good people do. And I think that maybe, you know, in certain situations you could explain like, yeah, this is all bad, but like he needs the money. No, no. He's like married to a full on billionaire. There is not one. There was not one good reason to have done this, honestly.

32:18Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no. Oh, and the comments are fucking brutal.

32:22Claudia Oshry:They had to turn. They limited them. Oh, gosh. Yeah. No, this was a bad move. I mean, but he's not really going to turn it down because I know he doesn't need the money, but like I'm sure he would like to bring home some income instead of always having to go ask his in-laws for money. So I not that he needs the money, but I think he would want money and want a job and want employment.

32:42Jackie Oshry:No, at any time he does try to do something professionally, albeit photography, being a chef, I guess he founded a hot sauce company I've never heard of. It is like the ultimate flop. Oh, you know what? I feel like we had a conversation a little while ago about like Nepo babies who flop. Yeah. We should start a list.

32:59Claudia Oshry:I think I have one. I think I know whose name to search to find it.

33:02Jackie Oshry:Because it is like just because you are Nepo does not mean that you automatically become successful. Like, yes, it definitely helps. And so there is an interesting conversation to be had about Nepo babies who like can't hack it. We have to add him to the list. Who else is on it?

33:15Claudia Oshry:Let me tell you, this list is so mean. I'm actually not saying because I'm going to text it to you and you're going to understand why.

33:21Jackie Oshry:Maybe we made it like for our personal lives.

33:23Claudia Oshry:I think we did. I'm glad that we did, but it was a short list. There was three people and now there's four.

33:32Jackie Oshry:Oh, we can't say it. Yeah. Also, I just want to say I've been corrected by our production team. There is a screenshot of Michael B. Jordan actually liking Soul's picture. So I just want to say like receipts are there. So these things are happening.

33:44Claudia Oshry:One of three confirmed. But he did like Andrina's pictures. No. I don't know. Probably. Probably. If he liked Souls, he liked Andrina. And Rihanna was the one who set him up with Sierra.

33:55Jackie Oshry:He's also chronically online. That was a rumor. That was a Dumas saying that Rihanna's setting him up with an A-list actor and everyone just assumed Michael B. Jordan.

34:03Claudia Oshry:Who just won a house or it was Michael B. Jordan. And Michael B. Jordan is always fishing for a date. Maybe he just loves reality TV. Or he's chronically online. Yeah, maybe. But also, you can be chronically online, love reality TV, and also be able to get a date in the real world. You know? 100%. When you're Michael B. Jordan. what was the story? Brooklyn Beckham. Oh,

34:25Jackie Oshry:literally I've never, genuinely never thought lower of someone. Like, I just think he's seriously disgusting for this.

34:31Claudia Oshry:And I also want to say like, if it is the family reuniting, like in this way, then they're all on my list, but it's not like, I know for certain that it's not.

34:40Jackie Oshry:I also saw some paparazzi pictures of Harper Beckham. The sister was in LA and I guess the paparazzi caught her going into Brooklyn's house, but I think he didn't open the door.

34:50Claudia Oshry:So this story is really confusing. We don't know why she was there and then Brooklyn was in New York. He wasn't even home and neither was Nicola so like no one was home. That's why she didn't go in. Does she know that they weren't home? Was she just stopping by? There's no way to know what happened there so I'm going to actually like not fall to anyone because we just don't know.

35:09Jackie Oshry:I ride extremely hard for the nuclear Beckham family.

35:13Claudia Oshry:Me as well. Me as well. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Little smut news. Icebreaker series greenlit at Netflix with Alex Cooper producing and Amanda Lasher set as the showrunner.

35:29Jackie Oshry:Icebreaker is like the OG hockey smut book. When Off Campus was being turned, I thought that it was that book. But it's like literally the exact same book, except she's not a music major. She's a figure skater. She's a hockey major. What happens is like one of the hockey, one of the like ice rinks goes out of business or whatever. And the figure skating team has to share with the hockey team. And so obviously, and then she also has like an eating disorder. So like trigger warning, there's gonna be some of that. It was really good. That was the only hockey smut book I ever read. And I have to say it was fantastic.

35:59Jackie Oshry:Like I seriously was caught the fuck up in it.

36:01Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I did read off campus. I did read off campus. I never read Icebreaker, but like I have heard of it. It's like one of the top smut books. I never heard of off campus even, never read it. so this is like was a bigger title in the smut world yeah um Netflix is like famously bad at

36:18Jackie Oshry:adapting books so I'm a little afraid and I do think like the off-campus hype

36:28Claudia Oshry:like it's a little bandwagon-y you know yeah for sure but that's what happens like something becomes cool and then we get like a lot of versions of it because it's the new flavor

36:37Jackie Oshry:and you just can't keep a good gal down i guess like alex cooper is unaffected yeah i'm sure she was glad to have this to post you know like you know more content more content and also like you know she's not going anywhere yeah that's what when we were saying like do we think any of this like internet drama cancellation nation will actually have an effect on her specifically no she has deep roots and yeah you said celebrities really like her i think she has really good relationships and connections with like networks and uh streaming services and like showrunners because she operates at an extremely high level so for now unaffected yeah also i think

37:16Claudia Oshry:like things like this speak to the why of like why she does unwell i think she's you know unwell does a lot of things um you know some more successful than others but you know if she just stayed doing call her daddy forever and like just was like doing that then how do you go and make movies too like you don't you need a company with a production company and I think also this is where her husband really shines he makes movies he's made movies for Netflix he's made successful movies for Netflix all the boys I love before yeah like giving him the keys to the movie department at unwell to make gen z movies for Netflix like just makes sense it does so I think giving him the keys so he can yell at everyone I look forward to everyone who gets yelled at on the set of icebreaker a thousand percent um so yeah i would like i'm looking forward to casting news also this variety article does cite the good successes of netflix's adaptations which are okay bridgerton yeah true i forget that bridgerton is based on books queen's gambit yeah is that based on it's based on a book and it's the greatest show ever made it's the greatest show ever made yeah and to all the boys i loved before don't forget that was based on a book so her husband actually has experience but the list of ones they've done unsuccessfully is longer of course but it's not impossible no it's not impossible just whoever worked on luckiest girl lives stay far away from this and perfect couple perfect couple yeah yeah well has unwell done a movie yet?

38:51Claudia Oshry:Movie book? Book movie?

38:52Jackie Oshry:Yeah, not book, but they did a movie that took place on an airplane. It was like a rom-com for Netflix with that girl from White Lotus who's like the big Jonas Brothers fan. Hayley Hayley Lou Richardson. I'm unfamiliar. Yeah, I don't think it popped off, but it wasn't bad. It wasn't like, you know, Razzie. Yeah, I think

39:16Claudia Oshry:I wonder if she'll wind up doing ACOTAR. What's going on with

39:20Jackie Oshry:ACOTAR so if you have to watch her Instagram stories like very um meticulously because she doesn't just post yeah for nothing she like a year ago was like guys I'm gonna start reading and it's like oh great you're obviously gonna start adapting shit into movies and tv shows and now she's like posts a lot about fourth wing no and not ACOTAR fourth wing's already being made

39:40Claudia Oshry:no fourth wing's in like in the it's at Amazon does she I don't think she does ACOTAR she does ACOTAR and she had Sarah J Maas on the podcast remember it was like a huge great oh yeah yeah

39:49Jackie Oshry:yeah yeah yeah yeah she doesn't just post for anything she doesn't post a lot of love island maybe because someone from the show will probably come on the podcast that's like a big part of her

39:59Claudia Oshry:job and then also all those people do the unwell festivals and the circuit yeah right and that's she's got to slum it with them yeah yeah yeah for sure that's just like standard operating practices business hours yeah um no but i feel like now she's gonna do acotar yeah i didn't read it actually I started at Qatar, but I didn't finish it. It's not for me. Me neither. You can't dance at every wedding. It's true. So yeah, Icebreaker. We'll see you on Netflix. Yeah, we will. Are you ready for our fourth story? Yeah. Which is some precious news. Chief coach Andy Reid's Taylor shares a glimpse of his custom tuxedo fitting ahead of Taylor Travis's wedding.

40:42Jackie Oshry:I'm sick.

40:43Claudia Oshry:And of course, what does this remind you of?

40:46Jackie Oshry:Meghan Markle's dad.

40:49Claudia Oshry:he is the thomas markle of this royal wedding and also it's like when thomas markle started out on his journey of being earnestly father of the bride it was the most precious thing we ever saw he had paparazzi taking pictures of him googling you know royal wedding at the library

41:08Jackie Oshry:you know that like now we know that photo was like famously staged yes yes yes but even once

41:13Claudia Oshry:we knew it was staged it's like it's just so precious in its nature like hey paparazzi come watch me search the internet at the public library for what to wear to a royal wedding like just so so fucking cute he didn't even get invited things went so south after that but i'm sorry the idea that he would like stage those photos actually like doesn't even bother me i know it's like precious boomer energy yeah so peter's clothiers a man's apparel shop in kansas city It's giving Malzones tuxedos.

41:48Jackie Oshry:Malzones tuxedos. The lore of this show goes so deep. Like I always want new people to start watching, but like people who have been with us for so long, who know like our OG. Yeah, that's giving Malzones from New Jersey. Like if you don't, I can't explain it.

42:01Claudia Oshry:Peter's Closiers is the Malzones of the Middle East. Of the Midwest.

42:09Jackie Oshry:Of the Middle East for sure.

42:14Jackie Oshry:Oh my God, funny.

42:15Claudia Oshry:So Peter's Clothiers gave a glimpse of the chief's coach doing a tuxedo fitting ahead of the couple's wedding. In Instagram post, the shop shared a photo of Andy Reid trying on his black tux as the owner, Spiro Arvantakis, made adjustments.

42:32Jackie Oshry:I'm like seriously sick from this. Like I actually can't talk about it. Do you know what I mean? Like it brings up a lot of feelings.

42:39Claudia Oshry:I know, but I do feel like we're headed down the Thomas Markle path.

42:43Jackie Oshry:Like I'm so down for the Andy Reid Thomas Markle pipeline title.

42:53Jackie Oshry:I really like, oh, this is so cute. It's like it's too precious.

42:58Claudia Oshry:Like, I mean, I feel physically actually having deja vu because I think those exact words. This is so cute. It's precious. I feel physically ill from it is how we describe Thomas Markle doing his cafe.

43:09Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I hate to break it to you, Kansas City fans. like this is the start of the end of Andy Reid's career. It's about to get so bad. So dark for Andy Reid.

43:22Claudia Oshry:And like Taylor's not amused. No, I actually think she is. Just wait, Claudia. It's always the first that sucks fitting. Then what? It's true. Then snapping a photo of the invitation.

43:34Jackie Oshry:Next thing he's Googling. Yeah. Oh God, yeah.

43:37Claudia Oshry:Next thing he's Googling like best MSG entrance. Yeah.

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49:14Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our fifth and final story that's going to leave into our Love Island recap?

49:16Jackie Oshry:Is it the devastating like quite scary news about the Love Island executive producer who passed away?

49:22Claudia Oshry:No, actually I was keeping it upbeat with the fact that the Love Island Casa Amor episodes are headed to theaters.

49:28Jackie Oshry:Oh yeah, that's weird.

49:30Claudia Oshry:It's like, it's a lot. Yes, Love Island USA is headed to theaters this summer with a screening of the Casa Amor fallout. So Peacock is taking the villa to select theaters nationwide so fans can experience the jaw-dropping moments from Casa Amor and witnessed the bombshell twist test and unforgettable recouplings on June 22nd at 9 p.m. Because I was like, when's Casa Amor? Like, can we like get it going? Speed it up. Because it does feel like the season just started. So like Casa's not happening for a while, but it's June 22nd.

49:56Jackie Oshry:I don't know, they're doing things so quickly. Like the hideaway when no one's even closed off and they haven't even gone on a date. Well, it's there. It just moves the plot.

50:04Claudia Oshry:And then also, you know. It's something to do. They're about to bring in someone who is Zach's type to a tee.

50:09Jackie Oshry:Oh, yeah. I need them to bring in someone who's Caleb's type. Like, I've had enough.

50:12Claudia Oshry:oh yes me as well but maybe they have the same type that would be good yeah but they're about to test zach and kata after just giving them a night in the hideaway that's what they do um so it's gonna cost them more making its theater debut in 28 theaters across the country fans of the dating series can reserve their seats through fandango i love anything that like

50:33Jackie Oshry:supports theaters right i love the movie theater industry like i want to help but i'm sorry i can't like this is crazy it's not that good like the season's really not that good and also like i

50:41Claudia Oshry:I don't want to watch a show like around other people.

50:44Jackie Oshry:Yucky.

50:45Claudia Oshry:Yucky. It's like group porn. Yeah.

50:49Jackie Oshry:So last night's episode was very much like a, not filler, but it was like just sort of moving things around. Nothing major, no challenge. Conversations. Lots of conversations, but it was really interesting. It was a particularly bad episode for KC. I feel like he's so unlikable to me for a couple of things. Did anybody else catch when they were talking about when was the last time you had sex? And he was like, I was fucking seven months ago. like just the way he's like oh you ain't fucked since then like the way you're saying what do you say made love you haven't been intimate there's so many ways to say it but like maybe two or even three times he said oh yeah i fucked her she was fucking i'm like oh my god like it was so disrespectful and then he's talking about how anaya is moving slow like a normal person and he called her with the guys a grandma he is not who i thought he was he's really not and like

51:37Claudia Oshry:Also, we have to also remember, think back to the big bed scene when the bombshells came in and everything was fine between Casey and I at that point. And then Ariana was like, how are you guys? He made that weird joke. And he was like, blessed. Like everything starts to add up.

51:51Jackie Oshry:Any person who, like Anaya, is not comfortable being intimate in front of cameras, being intimate in a room full of 25 people. Anyone who has a problem with that.

52:03Claudia Oshry:With someone she's known for a week and a half.

52:05Jackie Oshry:He really, like he does not deserve her. And I hate that like people are saying, and it's true, like Anaya's on the wrong show. I just wish this was the type of show that like would have someone like Anaya.

52:13Claudia Oshry:And when someone does come in like this, it's actually like very respected instead of looked down upon like Bella. But no, like they will never have another Bella. The takeaway there was like we need people who are down to kiss everybody, not people who will withhold.

52:29Jackie Oshry:And like at the hideaway, like the fact that we saw Kate as tushy and like the whip thing, like that was really crazy. And so while my heart, I'm with Anaya. Like I don't know, except for Anaya's like blind loyalty to Melanie and like her friendships are seriously questionable. In terms of her relationship, I'm so on her side. I feel bad for her because like she is going to be punished for having standards. Yeah.

52:53Claudia Oshry:But like if you go on the show, you need to know that. Like and I do feel like they make it very clear if you watch the show, which they've all watch the show like you need to be down for everything all the time with everyone all at once and like so I keep holding out for someone to like you know I don't know say no to something once in a while but that's not the show so agreed she's on the wrong show even though like she's

53:19Jackie Oshry:the one that I agree with the most yeah um it was another just awful night for sincere um he just sort of confirmed to Melanie that he still wants to pursue. He's telling Soul he's her number one. And I just kind of need Melanie and this whole thing could be solved if like Melanie and Soul had one conversation.

53:38Claudia Oshry:Or no, Melanie, Soul, and Sincere. Because Melanie could say to Soul, oh, he's telling me this, but why would Soul believe Melanie? She's kind of crazy.

53:44Jackie Oshry:Yeah, right.

53:45Claudia Oshry:The three of them should talk.

53:47Jackie Oshry:I did love to see Soul getting pulled for a chat with Kenzie and Jen. Dweem team. Dweem, literally dweem team. I think that Kenzie was like besties with all the original girls, but this Corbin thing has like made it really awkward and I think the girls are taking Melanie's side so like she's finding new friends and like yes I love seeing soul just like being a girl you know being like oh yeah you should kiss Corbin like just like I love her so much she's had the worst experience thus far on this show so like something normal like having a girl chat like

54:14Claudia Oshry:shouldn't be so exciting for soul but it is she seriously makes me so sad so I know she has a happy moment like I feel extra happy when they like pull her from sincere like gotta take your

54:24Jackie Oshry:girl girl talk I'm like bring her back in one piece oh it might be two yay yes like normal

54:31Claudia Oshry:experiences only for soul like that's what I want average experience and then of course they have to juxtapose like the three of them talking about how excited she is to be with sincere with like sincere eyeing Melanie in the speakeasy and I actually thought in the beginning like Melanie was the way that even the body language like she was sitting like nothing's happening here and I I do feel like she's really trying to move on. I like, as much as I don't like her, I like how she's moving in the new state of things. However, at the end when they were hugging, I felt like she was wanting him to kiss her.

55:05Claudia Oshry:Yeah, of course. She's like, it's all acts. She says one thing and does another. And even, I forget who it was who just clocked her, was like, she's sleeping in soul ties for attention.

55:16Jackie Oshry:Oh my God. When she slept in soul ties for the second night.

55:19Claudia Oshry:Who said that about her? It might have been Casey. And honestly, he does like read her.

55:23Jackie Oshry:It was Casey. Yeah, he hates her. He hates her, which I like. I just appreciate him. I couldn't believe she was sleeping in soul ties for the second night. I thought, okay, the night of the recoupling, high stakes, we're all very drama drama. When they cut to her sleeping in soul ties, which is literally outside. Like it's crazy to sleep outside. I was shook.

55:40Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Like you can sleep in the bed with Corbin. And you had no problem like making out with Corbin, sincere, Corbin, sincere. Yeah. But now all of a sudden, like, oh, I can't. Well, now everyone's being, like, precious about kissing. Like, Kenzie and Corbin. Yeah, well, I guess, like, they really are crossing a line by continuing to kiss.

55:58Jackie Oshry:But why is everyone acting, like, because you've been recoupled, that means you can't talk to a person you have a connection with.

56:02Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I don't know why they're acting like that. Because you can. But just Kenzie needs to, like, make clear to everyone and to Caleb that she's very much, like, going down these paths. but she is she's telling everyone pretty much the honest truth but she she has feelings for both

56:18Jackie Oshry:yeah i can't believe she's so hung up on corbin like what am i not seeing caleb is so cute and yeah caleb's 21 corbin's 22 yeah yeah no no i know they just really like each other like i think they just like i think that if they had sex like it could be over i think they're probably just like have a lot of pent-up sexual tension from sleeping in the bed together um and they're like you know getting freaky with one another yeah so like they need to have sex just so it can be over

56:43Claudia Oshry:yeah because i don't think it's like a great love but at least it's keeping things interesting yeah and kenzie and jen they don't like melanie and the fact that they're like putting they're like corbin won't kiss me because he's coupled up with melanie it's like that's not melanie's fault

56:59Jackie Oshry:no no and like corbin does not like melanie and melanie doesn't like corbin it's just like it's convenient for her to pretend yeah because she's just gonna get sincere back and like to make

57:07Claudia Oshry:sincere jealous yeah everything she's doing like she's saying all the right things but like Like it's coming from like just the wrong place. And she's just like waiting in the wings for sincere. I need two bombshells.

57:19Jackie Oshry:Three.

57:19Claudia Oshry:Okay.

57:20Jackie Oshry:I need someone who like a Jalen for Anaya. Someone who's there just for Anaya. Like Casey is fake. And I'm sorry, Zach did clock him. Like absolutely. I really don't like Casey anymore. So I need someone to come in there. I need someone to come in also for Kada. Because Zach is way too comfortable. She is so giddy. Like she's does not she's not even cool, calm or collected for like three seconds. And he is like giving me weird vibes.

57:46Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And I also need someone to come in for Caleb. I think someone will come in for Zach and it will test their relationship. And I hope that he still chooses Kada and then they can close off. Kada is not looking any other way other than Zach. Even if they brought in the perfect man for her, she wouldn't even see him because she only sees Zach. But to explore a connection after having sex, like that's wrong.

58:10Jackie Oshry:so call me old-fashioned yeah but like if you're not closed off you should have to be closed off

58:15Claudia Oshry:to get to the hideaway well no it's also she has agency she could say i'm not having sex with you unless we're closed off like she could say that she doesn't have agency she's like so obsessed and also like the hideaway at more hideaway let these people have a private night once it's like i'm glad you i don't think it was too early in the season the hideaway should be open every night and they should be able to send a couple there every night they do that on bachelor in paradise there's like the boom boom broom oh yeah no that's jersey shore i think they like wound up calling it that it's like an ode to jersey shore or whatever and always one couple sleeps in there it's always the strongest couple who like actually wants privacy but no jersey shore is a smushed room yeah yeah yeah back to my practice is boom boom so and then eventually if another couple is strong like they would get it one night but it should be open for a couple every night to like solidify their relationship i think it like it's good and normal but you should put boundaries on if you're trying to get serious with your guy you should yeah i agree that's on kata yeah no it is on kata she's

59:13Jackie Oshry:got to get smart i said that yesterday and then also a executive producer from love island passed away last week in fiji like while working and that news was just released yesterday so i guess they've sort of just been it does feel like they sort of like are scrambling a little bit like production feels like it's kind of like just throwing a bunch of shit at the wall and i kind Like the idea that their executive producer like is not there anymore. You know what? It kind of tracks with like how the show has been directed.

59:40Claudia Oshry:Well, the way it feels for me, and maybe it's just because of the time the app crashed, but it feels like they're just sitting around for very long stretches of time and days without a recoupling, without a challenge, without a date. Without a date. And so when the texts come in, they're always over-enthused when the texts come in. But it's like, I feel like they got stranded on an island there and there's like no one there actually like producing them. The people are producing in the editing room and they're making a show that way. But like, I don't feel like there's people like where are the chaperones?

1:00:09Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no, it definitely feels. So this news like does sort of track.

1:00:13Claudia Oshry:I thought it was just about the app crash and they lost a day of maybe. Maybe that too. And so it got a little long in the tooth because we had an extra day of chats.

1:00:22Jackie Oshry:They let us know that tonight's episode we will get to vote. And I'm just like, I'm not going to be so easily swayed. They obviously produce the show when they're voting to get a certain vote. And I'm sorry, I will, I'm not getting, I'm not falling for that again.

1:00:34Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but also, I don't think it's going to be the same sort of vote. I think it's going to be like, who should go on a date? Vomit. You know, it's not going to be like a recouple sort of, or any sort of high stakes vote. It's going to be like, who's your number one? And then they'll do a challenge where they tell everyone who they like the least. And it's like, we didn't say who we like the least. We said who we like the most. And then this person got the least sublain of votes for like the most. That doesn't mean they're the villain. That's what they do. They're disgusting. Oh my.

1:01:04Jackie Oshry:Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. Every Tuesday, Jackie and I like to give back to our community by helping out the swirlies in need. Write in to us, deartosters at gmail.com. You can shoot us an email there or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down. There's a little Dear Toaster submission box. Totally anonymous. Both methods are completely given equal chance of getting selected. Hey, Jackson Claude. We actually had a lot of submissions this week that like the Knicks playoffs and like the NBA playoffs and the Knicks winning like affected their lives.

1:01:31Jackie Oshry:Okay, and here's one of them. Ready? Hey, Jackson Claude. I'm a New York City swirly here who seemed to have a little too much fun last week. I met this guy through a mutual friend while watching the Knicks game, game three at a bar. Long story short, I ended up taking him home and having sex with him. To make matters even more interesting, it was my first time having sex. We ended up sleeping together again after both game four and game five, but I'm worried that we're not going to see each other as much now that the Knicks aren't playing. I do think we're very compatible, but there hasn't been much communication after the win on Saturday.

1:01:57Jackie Oshry:Searching for any advice on how to handle the situation because I'd love to see him more. Sincerely, a newest Knicks biggest fan.

1:02:03Claudia Oshry:See him more than three times?

1:02:05Jackie Oshry:Like she wants to now go out, but like it seems like she's sort of been renegated, relegated to like NBA finals girls.

1:02:12Claudia Oshry:She's phrasing it. I feel like I'm not going to see him as much. It's like I feel like I'm never going to see him again because there's not another Knicks game. And you haven't spoken. I mean, give it a shot. And you didn't know each other before the first encounter.

1:02:22Jackie Oshry:Mutual friend. So let me tell you, like, because I believe you're probably like attached because it's the first person you've had sex with. Like that's a very normal thing to be. um it's i would say it's most likely like you're never going to see or speak to him again and if it is it's just to have sex like that's sort of the box that you put yourself in by just seeing him three times and having sex three times like that's just how unfortunately the world works i would give it one shot like sentiment tax being like hey when i grab drinks like try once um but

1:02:49Claudia Oshry:i wouldn't have high expectations that's what i was gonna say throw a hail mary like make a joke like hey i heard you know the golf championships are on like and you guys can have this running joke about like using sports as a way to see you could become a really big yankees fan yeah no but like you could just like throw a joke there are plenty of sporting events on so like if you guys if it's your thing that you need a sporting event in order to see each other just like you could find one on any game the world cup so you should text him put yourself out there because the worst is that like he's not feeling and doesn't want to see you and that would be the same if you put yourself out there or you didn't because he doesn't want to see you and

1:03:22Jackie Oshry:you'll never see him try once but after that like take the hand yeah these lessons are learned the

1:03:28Claudia Oshry:hard way yeah but the world cup would be like a really good one because there's multiple games and by the end of the world cup like you should probably he should be your boyfriend if you play your card that's a good goal yeah or it's not but stop having sex like why don't you

1:03:41Jackie Oshry:go out and do stuff yeah and then be like oh i have an early morning tomorrow like let's skip

1:03:45Claudia Oshry:tonight and then hey brazil's playing senegal senegal next up dear toasters claudia i already

1:03:53Jackie Oshry:know what you're gonna say he's gay which actually i might agree with you on when i was eight months pregnant already married for a year and a half at that point i got a dm from a girl saying she had a history with my husband before he and i met and he added on snapchat last night under a different name and she thought i should know well god bless her i confronted him about it made him log in i was going to look but what i found was 10 months worth of messages with guys pictures videos nasty messages this started three months after we got married and i was destroyed he had a porn problem which i knew about when we dated but he said it was minor and in control and he stopped he said his porn addiction never stopped and ultimately led to online sites and chatting gets worse he actually got a blowjob twice from one of the guys he's been messaging the second time was the night

1:04:30Claudia Oshry:before my baby shower and he swears he's not gay which is pregnant yeah we're still together but

1:04:35Jackie Oshry:my heart and my head are not in it he's been going to therapy working on himself we now have a seven month old baby girl. She's my everything. I do not love my husband, but I cannot stand the thought of not being with my baby girl every day. I don't think I could get full custody just based on his infidelity. If I didn't have a baby, I would have left him a long time ago. It's so easy to say, leave him, but I love my baby so much and I don't want to have to be away from her because of his mistake and his addiction. What would you do? First of all, I love you and I love everything you're saying.

1:04:59Jackie Oshry:And I agree with you. Full custody is not guaranteed. I feel like it has to be really extenuating circumstances these days for like it to be complete full custody. So yeah, you're sacrificing your own happiness for your baby and like that's what a mother does and it's also

1:05:12Claudia Oshry:it's two versions of happiness it's like happiness to be away from him or happiness to be with your baby every single day and I think the second one is better for and especially based on what you're

1:05:23Jackie Oshry:saying yeah I also think that there's like a sort of peace that comes with realizing like I don't like my husband like you don't have when you still are attached like that's actually what makes it harder so you're completely detached and I feel like for your sanity that's actually amazing you're basically just like living with someone like roommates and you know what like he's out here on sites like chatting like girl you kind of have like a free pass like go have an affair but also you have a seven-month-old so like maybe like you don't have to but like the freedom of like knowing that you have a partner who has like his own things going on he's not even paying attention to you you have no feelings left for him like you do not love him you said that like that's kind of a freeing feeling like just sort of do what do your own thing yeah and be with your basically

1:06:01Claudia Oshry:splitting rent every day yeah it's like a roommate um and your baby is with her father which is good too yes but and with her mother every day well of course which she needs but i'm saying your baby is in an intact home she don't know dad's on sites yeah so i would say ignore yeah i would say ignore

1:06:21Jackie Oshry:keep doing what you're doing and like genuinely like fall in love yeah have a like go like have an affair you basically have an at-home babysitter like and like you could watch the the nan it well

1:06:31Claudia Oshry:you go out with the girls maybe like he'll get like so you know like pent up and frustrated and like that he'll eventually like leave and move to another state and go find a lover and like

1:06:44Jackie Oshry:you get what you want yeah yeah no for this i would play the long hand yeah maybe like get

1:06:50Claudia Oshry:you're doing the right thing set him up with like a pen pal in another country oh let's catfish him So that he eventually leaves the country. He obviously can't take the child. And then you steal his passport the night before he leaves.

1:07:04Jackie Oshry:No, no, you want him to go. Oh, sorry. No, no. You go visit him and you steal his passport on your way out so he can never return back. That's a good plan. Like you go visit him with the baby. Because he can't get a replacement. Oh, Sarah wanted to see you. He can't get a replacement passport. At that point, it's like, well, I'm happy being free and gay in Senegal. I love her in Senegal. Yeah. Who needs a passport?

1:07:27Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. Focus on number one and number two.

1:07:32Jackie Oshry:Agreed. No, you're doing the right thing. You're an amazing mama. And your daughter will thank you one day. Like, you're doing what you're supposed to do. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Our third and final. My boyfriend of five years, who I'm definitely marrying and is going to be the father of my children, has made it clear that he's very anti-circumcision. He himself is uncircumcised. He's Norwegian. So that's the cultural norm. He also plays hockey. And in hockey, a lot of guys are uncircumcised because they're Canadian and European. So for him, it's super normal. and let's not forget natural. Unfortunately, I'm a touch waspy.

1:07:59Jackie Oshry:Very Charlotte York in that episode with the uncircumcised guy. So it's been five years and he's such a pigeon. I'm actually startled every time I see him soft. I've mentioned to him that uncircumcised penis for my son is not a dream and he's been understanding but he said it's important to him and that penis stuff is more in the dad territory which I get like if there was any call to be made with my daughter's body he would 100 % defer to me. Should I just get on board? The problem with taking a hard line is I risk offending him in his uncircumcised story. Love you so much. Also, Tony, I saw you on the street recently and you looked paper thin.

1:08:28Jackie Oshry:Oh, my God. I did not add that sentence in. I swear to God.

1:08:31Claudia Oshry:Wait, so they're just dating right now or they're married?

1:08:33Jackie Oshry:Yeah. No, they're dating. But for five years. There's so many things. First of all, you could be blessed with only daughters. This could be a non-issue.

1:08:42Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Okay, but say it's not. You could end up not marrying. Yeah, but let's say they're married and they had a son on the way.

1:08:50Jackie Oshry:So I want to say like your comparison of being like, well, if we had a daughter and there was something to do with her body, it would be my choice. but because we have our son, it would be his choice. No. It's actually your choice either way. And I want you to know that the ultimate decision is yours to make. I do think there are a couple of things you could do to sort of guarantee you get your outcome. Like you could convert to Judaism. I think that would sort of fix the spread out.

1:09:13Claudia Oshry:What if he's an anti-Semite?

1:09:16Jackie Oshry:Well, then you should know now. You should not be having babies with him. It's actually a two-for-one special. You get your uncircumcised penis and you find it's a test. Mm-hmm. I think it's a very good advice.

1:09:26Claudia Oshry:I think you say that it's important to you. But it's important to him too. It's more important to you. And like when you've had that baby and like it happens in infancy. And so that like you get all the say when you've just delivered a baby.

1:09:42Jackie Oshry:You know? Yeah. The circumcision conversation is so interesting. And I feel like pretty good about it because like I don't have a choice. You know like my religion. But if you do have a choice, America is like really kind of one of the only countries where it's standard practice. Yeah. Medically. The more and more people are not doing it. Yes. So it's we are sort of the outlier on this. Like.

1:10:03Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

1:10:04Jackie Oshry:Not everyone else. I can relate to like very much wanting your child to be circumcised.

1:10:08Claudia Oshry:So like how do you make that happen for yourself? And I think you just have to be like really honest. And if it comes up that he's like well I'm not circumcised and you don't mind. Just be like well. I love you. I have no choice in that and I love you and I know you and I'm not going to let something like that can come in between us but this is what I want for my child it's what I've always wanted and I need to know that you're okay with that and you know what like why don't you guys focus like

1:10:30Jackie Oshry:on getting engaged you're just dating for five years like girl it's time and I think also you're talking about hypothetical children's genitalia you don't even have an engagement ring yeah and

1:10:39Claudia Oshry:how this conversation goes I think will speak to like a lot of like important disagreements that you might have along the way there are a lot of decisions to be made with your children that people are going to have strong feelings for or against along and how you handle them how you handle them like really will show if if you can be parents together like see each other side of things compromise on the things that are less you have to pick and choose your battles I think this is one worth picking for you but it will like speak to other I can think of like so many things that are huge decisions that you have to make for kids.

1:11:16Claudia Oshry:Oh my God, of course. And like the ideal is that whoever you marry,

1:11:23Jackie Oshry:you're just sort of like aligned on. But I do think more often than not, like you defer to the mother. Like you just do. Sorry, mothers and fathers ain't equal. And I'm good with that. No, they're not. Like I'm hella good with that. I agree. I agree. Like, sorry, I don't want equal rights. Like I'm better and different in certain ways. I want mother's rights. Yes. Like, yeah, we defer to me. You carry the suitcases, okay?

1:11:46Claudia Oshry:i'll carry the baby yeah like sorry the suitcases that's like biologically like you're physically

1:11:52Jackie Oshry:stronger you carry the suitcases biologically like i have like a maternal instinct a gut that like is unparalleled like i'm connected like we are the same temperature me and the baby like what are you talking about no like we're not equal i don't want to be equal yeah i i agree that's like the other day i said to ben and i do think that sometimes like after a woman

1:12:12Claudia Oshry:has gone through pregnancy has a baby like the men get it and they're like shut up they're like oh okay this is not my domain at the moment like this is between a mother and her baby and i'm happy and lucky to be a part of it yeah so when god willing one day the day comes that you do get pregnant like just be really dramatic about it like oh i know but i i do feel like if your partner like doesn't see that they do see it they how can you miss it like it's a A complete transformation. You're turned inside out. You're a different person. And they're just like, hey, you know? Yeah. And so I feel like it sort of writes itself because, like, everything sort of falls into place.

1:12:52Claudia Oshry:Because they understand that it's not the same to be a mother and to be a father.

1:12:57Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Well, that's our show, you guys. Thank you for writing into Dear Toasters. Thank you to everyone for listening to the Toast. The Millennium Morning Show, where we deliver the fast-paced stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So wherever you listen to podcasts. No, on YouTube. so if you're watching this on YouTube, oh my god feel free to give this video a thumbs up we're also available as podcast and where podcasts we found, so that's Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube wherever you listen to podcasts is excited, so don't leave a nice review about how beautiful, stunning and wickily talented we are hope you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow

1:13:23Claudia Oshry:love ya, bye