In short
The hosts debate the ongoing “Alex Cooper vs. Sophia Franklin” backlash, arguing that online pile-ons and mean-spirited criticism (including mocking her dancing/walking) are premature until specific allegations are known. They also discuss industry resentment toward Cooper (claims she underpays collaborators), her acting debut in Verity, and Bravo/Summer House updates. A secondary segment covers Sierra Miller’s public response to betrayal on Summer House, plus a lighter personal story about searching for a Hamptons rental.
Guest backgrounds
No guests appear in the transcript. Hosts are Toast regulars “Toast” (Jackson Claude) and “Alex Earl” is referenced as a person being discussed, not as a guest.
Key claims
The hosts say Cooper’s critics are “justifying” outcomes based on fandom, not evidence; Cooper should respond “with facts” rather than silence. They claim Sophia Franklin was wronged severely and deserves justice. They argue Cooper is widely disliked in podcasting due to alleged low pay and that jealousy and groupthink drive the pile-on.
Notable examples
Mocking Cooper’s “Circus” Vegas TikTok; comparisons to “Call Her Daddy” IP value; Sierra Miller’s Glamour quote about public hurt; Verity trailer opening with Cooper interviewing Anne Hathaway’s character.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Alex Earl Situation
0:45 to 3:31
Discussion about the implications of Alex Earl's recent actions and her impact.
The Cancel Culture Debate
3:31 to 5:33
Exploration of cancel culture and its effects on public figures, particularly women.
Reflections on Women Supporting Women
5:33 to 8:21
A critical look at the dynamics of female support and the hypocrisy surrounding it.
Business Deals and Power Dynamics
8:21 to 10:51
Analysis of business decisions made by Alex Cooper and their consequences.
Industry Reactions and Jealousy
10:51 to 13:52
Discussion on the reactions from the podcasting industry regarding Alex Cooper's actions.
Allegations and Celebrity Culture
14:00 to 17:00
The hosts discuss the dynamics of celebrity jealousy and public perception surrounding Alex Earl.
“Alex Earl did eclipse her during their time together.”
Summer Rental Saga
17:00 to 20:50
A humorous recount of the challenges faced while searching for a summer rental in the Hamptons.
“If it doesn't happen before noon today, like it's not happening.”
Family Dynamics and Expectations
20:50 to 24:30
The hosts reflect on family dynamics while choosing a vacation house and the expectations that come with it.
“I like it too because she needs to stand up for herself but it's like why are they talking like that?”
Sierra Miller's Glamour Cover Story
29:05 to 33:00
Discussion on Sierra Miller's cover story and her feelings about recent betrayals.
“So Sierra Miller is on the cover of Glamour magazine talking about Wes Mandeval.”
Editing and Reunion Drama
33:02 to 34:38
Exploration of editing decisions in the show and upcoming reunion dynamics.
“to get your press approved by Bravo if you go on a podcast if you go do an interview so I this was sanctioned by Bravo.”
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Alex Cooper's Acting Debut
34:39 to 36:46
Discussion about Alex Cooper's new role in the adaptation of 'Verity'.
“Yeah, just because they want to rile up their crazy fans.”
The Impact of Fame on Personal Narratives
36:47 to 39:31
Analysis of how public figures navigate personal stories amid fame.
“Alex Cooper will make her acting debut alongside Anne Hathaway in a new Colleen Hoover adaptation, Verity.”
Cultural Reflections on Content Creation
39:32 to 42:05
Discussion on the appropriateness of content in modern media and audience reactions.
Cultural Reflections on Controversial Questions
42:05 to 43:08
The hosts discuss their past reactions to inappropriate cultural questions.
Victoria Beckham x Gap: A Promising Collaboration
43:08 to 44:10
The hosts share excitement about Victoria Beckham's upcoming collaboration with Gap.
Megan Trainor Cancels Tour: The Reasons Behind It
49:31 to 54:08
The hosts discuss Megan Trainor's tour cancellation and the implications of her decision.
“Our next story, Megan Trainor is canceling her tour.”
Debating J-Lo's Vocal Abilities
54:08 to 56:00
A lively discussion on Jennifer Lopez's singing capabilities and industry rumors.
“The new song of hers that I know is My love's gonna take you to the moon.”
Jennifer Lopez's Unexpected Singing
56:00 to 58:00
A discussion about Jennifer Lopez's singing abilities and a viral performance.
“and I just was like, she doesn't sing, she can't sing.”
Braxton Barrios and New Love
58:00 to 1:00:20
Insights into Braxton Barrios's new relationship and reflections on past love.
“And it seems like they're all like very premium women.”
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Recap
1:00:20 to 1:06:20
A detailed recap and analysis of the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
“so he likes that life of course he's in LA okay Braxton okay Braxton next up TV recap Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was that the season finale?”
Queenie and Weenie Awards
1:06:20 to 1:10:03
The hosts give out their weekly awards for notable achievements and disappointments.
“I don't need them to always be popping off.”
Toast Nominations and Internet Drama
1:10:03 to 1:10:38
The hosts engage in a light-hearted discussion about nominations and their feelings about internet drama.
“I know we only give it to ourselves sparingly, but like, I'll take it, you know.”
Weenie Discussions and Opinions
1:10:38 to 1:11:38
A conversation about their opinions on giving out 'weenies' this week, highlighting their perspectives on social media drama.
“a while we're always like communicating in group chats pk texas texan memes texan memes okay now I'm sending it to you.”
Host Appreciation and Show Details
1:11:38 to 1:11:59
The hosts thank listeners and provide details about the podcast's schedule and availability.
“Sally's sort of steering the ship, don't you feel?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.
0:22Jackie Oshry:I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy friday aka the last day of the week aka like we have nothing from miss alex earl i don't know what this means for the toast what does it mean for you because
0:36Claudia Oshry:you said eod close of business yesterday it didn't i did and i do feel like we are now past due do you do you find yeah well i kept saying like she has really till friday and i think if she doesn't put something out today nothing is coming yeah and i've seen she it's not like she went dark
0:55Jackie Oshry:she's actually been extremely active she hosted a brand event for her she's been active v sing she hosted a brand event she released a coachella vlog a big partnership with microsoft so maybe she wanted to get like her spawn con out of the way and not like have it mix in with the feud content i just think she is losing steam like even though it's so funny like people on the internet when they've decided who won like they'll justify it either way and so the comments are like yes unbothered queen and it's like well you said you were gonna respond and it's not that you're unbothered because it's like it's not like you can ignore this right like it's global um but like people don't even care like they're just done with alex cooper alex girl has one in their mind even though she hasn't even responded yet and yeah they think that that's like a sleigh you know because they're just gonna like whoever you know who your faves are you trust your faves and you're like yeah that's my queen right there like she doesn't even need to respond or when she does respond it'll be perfect like you just I feel like I'm pretty undecided just because I like I would like to know all the facts obviously I'm like Earl leaning that's my girl um but I do need
1:56Claudia Oshry:to know the crimes yeah of course yeah I agree maybe it doesn't even matter what she says if she says because like people are gonna take her side on this and it seems like everyone's just been like looking for a reason to get rid of Alex what's crazy is there's Alex Cooper gave you like
2:14Jackie Oshry:the biggest reason to cancel her and people ate it up like and I feel pretty good about the fact that during the call her daddy scandal like of course we had an unpopular opinion which was that like I didn't think Sophia did anything wrong and so part of me like I always and I texted you this morning I'm actually really struggling with this saga because I'm sorry to hear that you're struggling not to make it about me but I almost always like jump to the defense of the person who's being canceled because it's I've been through it myself on a much smaller scale and I can tell you it's just devastating especially like for your first time it's just devastating um and i i'm seeing so much like really mean-spirited content about alex cooper like just making fun of the way she walks and dances and it's just like that's not what this is about you know what i mean so i'm always inclined to like jump to the defense of that person but i also have a really hard time because alex cooper like inflicted this on someone else like sophia franklin went through this at the hands of her best friends at the hand of alex cooper in a much worse way like and not
3:11Claudia Oshry:and not with 150 million dollars in her pocket in the bank like broke unemployed go back home suicidal yeah like literally like so she's done this and like alex cooper invited this like she started it with the video like she didn't start it but she blew it up like we were all talking about alex or reposting that bravo mom so alex cooper could have ignored it and maybe all this would have laid dormant for a while but like I hate when people are like she started no she just responded to it in a massive way yeah and I'm just seeing like people behave in ways that is pissing
3:46Jackie Oshry:me off and I hate hate hate when people make me be like a woman defender you know yeah because I
3:53Claudia Oshry:know like low-key and I think that's the whole point you know it's like how we're the accidental matriarchs exactly like we support the patriarchy but here we are being matriarchs like we're not women who support other women yet we are always supporting other women i have said and the women who support other women don't support other women i have said since the day that i'm born like i'm
4:11Jackie Oshry:not a woman who supports other women do not expect blind support from me like i hate you bitches like i really fucking do not the people listening to the show obviously you guys are my queenies everyone else hate those bitches but i've just never been this person who like blindly supports women yet whenever i'm talking and speaking on women's issues i always find myself like having much more empathy and just support for the woman more so than the women who are like girls girls amanda patula you know like the people who are self-proclaimed girls girls and who are women who support women blindly are some of the nastiest fucking bitches you've ever met in your life and me like somebody who i've always said like i don't support you just because you're the same gender as me like you know but yet i always find myself and i know nobody wants to hear it but i do think an irrelevant claim to bring into this like is blake lively like i am giving her the benefit of the doubt like i am like i'm over here like she says she was sexually assaulted like i'm over here believing her like getting my reputation destroyed because of it people think i'm like in cahoots with the reynolds okay and it's just no like i support women i actually do
5:15Claudia Oshry:that's what's so crazy but this situation it's like they're both women so it's not like you're unsupportive of women if you support one of them but like the way that people feel so comfortable like piling on a woman and like tearing a woman down and I won't get involved and I saw yeah it's
5:30Braxton Berrios:not it's not for me I was sending this video to like everyone I know because everyone I know was like texting me about the situation because I'm literally Katie Heron I was thinking about talking about it 80 % of the time and the other 20 % of the time I was hoping for somebody else to bring it up like I cannot stop talking about this and I saw this TikTok that was so mean-spirited like it just
5:47Jackie Oshry:it's like I don't want to be I don't want to be on that side like that side is so mean and so somebody had posted you know we've been talking a lot about that reel that Alex Cooper made in Vegas to the song Circus and it was like this slight against Alex Cooper and somebody posted video being like wait not me actually being you know um in the room when that video happened and she shared a video um in the audience she was in the audience and Alex Cooper was up on the DJ table in Vegas and she was filming that TikTok because she was like there's only two types of and she's like walking it's like stage she's not like slaying she's just walking and the comments are so mean this is so embarrassing I would never leave my house again from first of all from like you know anonymous trolls but also like other female podcasters I couldn't like people I know being like oh my god I'm so embarrassed for her like so mean-spirited these are like the type of people who like are you know they use the word herstory in a non-ironic way like these are self-proclaimed feminists and it's like you're piling onto a woman because you don't like the way that she like made a tiktok like if you want to come for Alex Cooper that's what's bothering me about this whole situation if you want to come for alex cooper like i do believe there are legitimate criticisms of her and like if you want to cancel her for x y and z like sure i could see you having a point but like at this very moment we don't know what she did yet everyone's hyping it up like brianna chicken friping like and then i heard what you did to alex we need to know we need to know because right now it's giving mean girl yeah yeah and so i need alex earl to post to her video for a multitude of reasons but also like I can make a decree right so we can adjudicate on
7:15Claudia Oshry:the matter I agree that video I didn't see the video but you sent me a screenshot and what's so crazy is the person who made the video they have like five million views for like clowning on Alex Cooper's dance to circus and the caption is when I realized I saw the circus performance by Alex Cooper in Vegas you mean when you realize and remember that you bought tickets to her event as a fan of her did you have a brain injury that you forgot that you did that like acting like oh I accidentally stumbled there no you bought a ticket like I was walking through the street like you're a big fucking fan no you're at the event you're at the event you're a fan you bought a ticket and now like you're clowning on her meanwhile you're there like with your phone in the air they probably have to fly in the way that people like she's like flipping it to be like that she accidentally stumbled upon this situation the comments
8:07Jackie Oshry:like really shook me I couldn't I had like kind of a crazy reaction to her I was like yucky I'm not piling on like I will not be a part of this and again I don't really know what the crime she's currently being accused of because like we're still waiting for that video but if we would like to have like conversations about other things like Sophia Franklin like yeah I said it at the time and I'd say now like it was abhorrent what was done to that girl and she deserves justice and you know what she really deserves 30 million dollars yeah I think that would make it right
8:35Claudia Oshry:100 % her best friend like well the 60 million was for the catalog and the work that Alex and future work but at the time I just want to say
8:44Jackie Oshry:the value the reason she got 60 million they didn't know she was going to go on to become this huge influencer podcast or interviewer or whatever they were paying the 60 yeah for future episodes but mostly for the catalog of Sophia's work
8:56Claudia Oshry:for both for both you don't pay 60 million for like for old episodes like you have to be releasing so it's not 60 million for the catalog so I guess we can you know
9:05Jackie Oshry:decide 20 yeah she gets 20 40 for the catalog 20 for future work yeah also I think like one of my
9:12Claudia Oshry:hotter takes is that if they had like left without their IP and just change they would have been fine people think the call her daddy IP is so valuable no the girls were so valuable and what they made of it you could call the show duty on a stick like everyone would want to listen yes and now six years later yes there's six years of branding at the time it had been one year yeah and they did
9:34Jackie Oshry:not need it they should have left together they could have gotten a deal elsewhere for more and they would have continued to become bigger and bigger and bigger and everything Sophia did at that time when their contract was up and she was hosting the biggest podcast in the world bigger than Joe Rogan it was the biggest podcast in the entire world was not up whatever they got to a place where they were allowed to renegotiate no and I think I remember at the time like it was
9:57Claudia Oshry:COVID and I think like Dave like said like they were paying the salaries of so many people like keeping the lights on at barstool because their podcast was so big no no no like so pay them more you know what i mean like oh call her daddy was like yeah because only like 10 percent of shows are actually successful 10 percent of talent covid like everybody is like in the red and like that show was just huge and they had so much leverage and it's not that they out leverage themselves because i remember they used to say like sophia was moving the goalposts like no she was asking for more because like she was they were in the driver's seat and it's not that dave was like fuck you guys I'm not giving it to you it was that they broke and Alex took the lesser deal yeah so Dave is a businessman being like all right I can negotiate with this one girl who wants 60 million
10:37Jackie Oshry:dollars or this other girl he'll do it for 500 yeah and so at the time I remember saying it and I feel that way now I would have done exactly what Sophia Franklin did and she got so much shit because she had a boyfriend oh he controlled her some of you bitches are so fucking stupid like no no you have a man who literally has an MBA in business you're in this business for one year he works at HBO he's a c-suite executive no you'd be an idiot not to take his advice and let him help you and let him make introductions to agents lawyers managers people to help make the deal and what's so funny is like yeah I think Alex really sailed on on that like Sophia you know letting her business be run by a man meanwhile she was just getting advice from someone smarter than both of them at the time and now like Alex Cooper runs her business in partnership with her husband her husband's like smaller production company has merged with her that's what unwell is it's like this big thing with his previous previously existing work and her unwell company so like which there's nothing wrong with slay i work with my husband it's the best when you actually respect your partner like that's who cares that he's a man like people are just so like obsessed with hating men um so like yeah if we want to have like an actual critical conversation about that sure at present it just kind of feels like a pile-on and i need to know what she did before i joined the pile-on because right now it's giving mean girl yeah I agree so I guess there's nothing to really adjudicate today actually I think there was one update yeah except that like it just seems like everyone in the industry hates her that's what's interesting like when did that happen right everyone who was like going on her tour has been on her show like now saying they hate her so funny because I feel like we're the ones holding the line never got invited to shit never we've never been asked to be on call her daddy we've never been asked to be a part of her tour she has like largely gone out of her way to
12:23Claudia Oshry:ignore us recently until recently because she asked you to do like the unwell vegas thing oh yeah she did ask but that was like very recent but when you know in the time it was just like a very
12:34Jackie Oshry:low-paying gig that's what i'll say because i'll do anything um and i think that's been a criticism of hers that she wants to work with everyone and pay them well below what they're worth that's what i've heard from almost everybody i know who's worked with her is that they she gives like she sends offers out to everyone to distribute their podcasts to have them as talent to go to events and she doesn't pay them what they're worth meanwhile like she's you know benefiting the most from being a female in podcasting and she gets that 60 million dollar 125 million dollar deal so she's very proud and good for her like she gets what she's worth and then yeah and then when it comes time for her to work with other talent she like grossly underpays them so that's why i think people in the industry like have a very negative association with her like their interactions have not been great and yeah yes but also like if you don't like the paycheck like you don't have
13:21Claudia Oshry:to take it so she offers you know what I think people wouldn't want to accept but like if you accept it then that's on you 100 is what I'll say and also anybody wants to like do business with
13:33Jackie Oshry:her like after Sophia gate like that's really surprising yeah I don't people didn't see it maybe now they will but like the Alex Earl thing like that was if you were following since the very beginning from the Sophia Franklin days like not really shocking yeah yeah so it's just um it's funny that we're holding the line here I know I just I'm like I feel like it's so ingrained in our DNA like just to have like a little bit of like devil's advocate and I don't think it's unreasonable to say like I just want to know what she did first like no accusations have been made yet and I think I have a good feeling as to what they are based on just like me following this story for the last year or two but alex are like needs to speak up and stat if it if it is what
14:17Claudia Oshry:like we think it is you know like just then she's not like really the villain in the story no but she like she is but she's been the villain the whole time like she's acting now how she's always acted and people have been eating it up and now they just don't like it because it doesn't serve them or i think that she's getting a little bit like james cordney and it's like uncool she's everywhere she's in the new uh she's in verity yeah i know that was the story today and that's also a part of it people are just fucking jealous like that needs to be that actually can't be overstated because there are so many women who are in this business and they operate at a good level
14:50Jackie Oshry:she is on another stratosphere she has interviewed everyone there's nobody she can't interview except for taylor swift she has so much money she doesn't even know what to do with she keeps starting these random companies she is so embedded deeply in pop culture she got the job that every millennial woman on the planet would have won it hosting the Hannah Montana special so anyone who's like in our sphere who's just like coming for her because like it's popular is also just
15:17Claudia Oshry:jealous like yeah I'm jealous I think those people are jealous I think the people who have like just turned on her on a dime you know like just sheep like are also jealous I don't think Alex Earl is a jealousy issue oh no like Alex Earl that's why I think Alex Cooper was so threatened
15:36Jackie Oshry:by her. Alex Earl did eclipse her during their time together. Alex Earl is so beloved. And yeah, no, I wasn't talking. I'm just talking about everyone who's like chiming in now. It's like, well, you didn't say anything when she was popular, first of all. That's my thing, you know. And you reaped the benefits of it. Like you went to the tour. You got your check. You got involved. Like Harry Jowsey's not turning on her because she pays his motherfucking bills.
16:00Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And that's my loyal king right there. And that's how I raised him. That's how I raised him to be loyal. I'm cracking up that is how you raised him I raised him to be loyal and you know and like that's like that's his friend right so why all of a sudden would that not be his friend no I hate people like that was your friend enough to like you were happy to cash those checks but now everyone hates and now you can see that she's an evil person like please I hate when people do that yeah I have like more respect for you when you stand up for your friend even if it's like unpopular because they were your friend enough you know before everyone hated them like you were
16:35Jackie Oshry:happy to so I think it makes look people makes people look bad yeah yeah it's getting a little
16:41Braxton Berrios:crazy out there you and so I actually think like Alex Earl like leaving us all hang out like hung
16:46Claudia Oshry:out to dry so far is making people crazy yeah and I just don't think it's coming at all or the job is not going to be a big bomb I don't think it's coming at all until a reality show or a get real all with me like in weeks like I think sometimes people do this where they don't respond for like a long time and then when they do it's like you know bam but sometimes it's not bam because too
17:11Jackie Oshry:much time has passed oh 1000 % I am starting to feel like a little over it not a lot but I could see myself getting there yeah so I don't think it's coming today I don't think it's coming today either because if she wanted to like really make waves you don't release something on a Friday Unless it's coming like this morning. Well, we are on alert. It's 9.45 a.m. If it doesn't happen before noon today, like it's not happening. And of course, everyone know, like, you know, everyone in the building, just alert me, right?
17:41Braxton Berrios:Okay. Just make sure everyone knows. Like, don't be shy. Yeah, barge in. Storm the Bastille. What's new with you? What's new with me? Oh, it's such a hard day. Like, it is so difficult being me. You. What'd you do? When? What are you talking about? I had a hard day. I'm having a hard day. Like the kids are sick. Oh, today, today. I'm just having a rough one. I was being sarcastic because like yesterday I had to drive out to the Hamptons to find our summer rental, which is a thankless job, might I add. But as the only person who like lives in New York and has a flexible schedule, I'm like tasked with the responsibility of finding our Hamptons summer rental.
18:18Braxton Berrios:Now, the first year we rented, I, you know, filled out the paperwork online. I never saw the house in person. And it was such a great big mistake.
18:25Claudia Oshry:Yeah, because when we were in the house, like the moment we walked in, we were like, Damn, if we just saw it once, we would have known that it was not the vibe. And never got this house. Yeah.
18:32Braxton Berrios:So now it's my job. And I decided to have a little fun with it. Because I was, first of all, it was a thousand degrees. I was sweating. Ben was cracking me up. He's like, why are you wearing, I was wearing this boys lie, like long sleeve shirt that looked thin. And when I put it on, boysly, it was like fleece inside. I was dying. Because you know, all these houses are sitting unused. So the air is not on. It was also like 80. And I'm walking up and down the stairs trying to get videos for everyone. I was sweating. Yeah. so on the way to the house, Ben gives me the shirt off his back. He was wearing like this very thin aloe t-shirt.
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19:02Braxton Berrios:I have to tell you, I, I instantly was better. And he like, didn't have a shirt. He walked into the house without a shirt on. He remembered, but then he remembered he had, um, one of his friends got him a shirt from the masters. So he like had kept it in the car. You two are not okay. No, no, no. We were both like changing in someone's driveway. That's like really crazy that Ben walked into the house without a shirt. No, sorry. He didn't walk in. He walked in the driveway. way in the driveway in the driveway so then I'm like I have like seven or eight houses we saw and at the last house I was just like seriously I was in hell and I I'm like I'm you know really I don't want to be responsible for like choosing a house that everyone hates right so I take really in-depth videos with lots of commentary each it's like four or five parts I get the downstairs the outside and then I put them in a drop box and I made a special drop box and I was like I know none of these bitches are gonna watch my videos in full even though I told you you have to watch them in and listen with audio.
19:58So at the very end of the very last video, I said, okay, this is the last video. And just to prove, if any of you bitches actually made it here, I want you to write in our family chat a purple heart. I thought that was pretty genius. And I want to say everyone passed except for motherfucking Margo. Except for Margo. And she keeps going, what's with the purple hearts, everybody? And I'm like, why don't you be more guilty?
20:20Claudia Oshry:I was like, you're telling on yourself. I watched all your videos. I just couldn't get around to it until later. Because I wanted to give it the time and energy it deserved. Because I had to like co-sleep. All that to say, I don't think we found the house. I had to co-sleep my way to sleep, you know, like in order to get these kids down. Jealous. Then I could watch. Then I had to watch Beverly Hills. And I had to watch last week's episode. I watched Beverly Hills. But I did it. It was kind of a frustrating episode. Yes, yes. I hate when Erica gets like that. I know. Or it's been like that too now where they both talk like gangsters.
20:52I don't care. I like when Dorit does it.
20:55Claudia Oshry:I like it too because she needs to stand up for herself but it's like why are they talking like that? Nine years. Okay, nine years. Like it was insane. They're so crazy. They literally think they're like the godfather.
21:08Braxton Berrios:Yes. And then Erica was on Watch Happens Live and she didn't bring that energy which I was grateful for. And Andy did ask some really good questions specifically about like, you know, how close Rachel, Zoe and Dorit are. And like I think he was just trying to fish like are you jealous? Are you mad? Like do you hate that? And Erica was like no, I'm never surprised by friendships in this group. I am so surprised and delighted by Rachel Zoe. Her personality is just so not what you would expect.
21:32Claudia Oshry:You would expect her to be cold and distant and just so cool because she's so cool with the sunglasses. And she's just like this warm, bubbly, happy, giddy person. You know what she is? What? She's kind of a girl's girl. Well, she is a girl's girl for sure. And she says cliche things and they sound cool coming out of her mouth. Like she's just really surprising and delightful. I completely agree. And I just love watching her. I feel like I just want to like look at her, you know, like her hair is so shiny and long. She's a spectacle. She's like, really? Yeah, I think she's awesome. Oh, my God.
22:09We've been gabbing for 20 minutes. I know. We've like talked. We didn't get to like sort of burying the lead like Sierra's spoken out. We got to get to the stories. Yeah, we pretty much like did the stories in the PFFB.
22:19Claudia Oshry:But oh, so you think we didn't find the house? I felt like there were two strong options
22:24Braxton Berrios:I don't know I don't know I was like also losing my mind Jackie was like where the house is good I'm like no and she was like they look nice and I was I was having a stroke in the video she walks into like this pargy bedroom and she's like ugh this house keeps getting worse I was like what am I missing no because you have to be there to like the smell and like the vibe like I could just tell you it wasn't right but I thought the room was like adorable I'm like ooh nice new room she's like this house just keeps getting worse it's a dump she walks into like the master suite she's like i don't think this house is gonna work for us you guys it's the worst job in the family i don't think it sounds fun at all and it's not like and the hamptons are like pretty much like closed for the season so it's not like you're out there like at tate's partying it up at surf lodge no and also what it's taught me is like i'm really not going to ever be able to live in the suburbs no the stairs it's insane unless i get like a really big ranch style home with no stairs it's insane that people live in houses that have like a
23:30Claudia Oshry:basement a main level and then upstairs oh yeah yeah we don't have basements here in florida and like i have stairs but my daily i mean aside from i come upstairs to do the show but i'm not like
23:39Braxton Berrios:hiking up and down the stairs all day right right so you can have just it doesn't seem like a pargy way of life. I'm not interested. And I've always dreamed of like having a mansion with a spiral staircase. No. What about if it had an elevator? That's just like a fat lazy thing to do. Do you need to get an elevator in your own home one floor? Like I would be too ashamed even in private, honestly. But you can get it. Just know you could get an elevator and like that would sort of solve the problem. If you're on the third floor and you have to go to the basement. I need like an electric chair up and down the staircase.
24:09Braxton Berrios:I think that would probably be best for me. That would be really beautiful to look at yeah like my big regal staircase and i'm sort of like electrically sliding down i think it can be solved with an elevator like don't let that don't let that stop you from home ownership okay or you can find a ranch style home you know or i can find a ranch style home which i know that you just want anyway like love a ranch i love a ranch now let's get into the stories, the fast vibe stories that you do need to know. That are brought to you by Smart Mouth. If you care about fresh breath, and we mean actually fresh breath, well, Smart Mouth is about to become your new favorite brand.
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29:02Claudia Oshry:You're welcome, Cozy Jert. Our first story, Sierra Miller is breaking her silence on Wes Mandeval with a Glamour cover story. So Sierra Miller is on the cover of Glamour magazine talking about Wes Mandeval. It's titled Sierra Miller will let the universe handle it. So she's explaining the shock that she experienced, the betrayal and how she's feeling in this moment.
29:30Braxton Berrios:Yeah, I saw a really good quote.
29:32Jackie Oshry:That's just I assumed this would be her take. It was this. It's one thing to experience hurt behind closed doors to experience it so publicly is adding another layer. And then to have to see what you thought was your life still play out in a season. It's a major mind fuck. I fought with your own husband to advocate for you. I have championed you. I have tried to be there in different ways for you and help you and get you to see your value in yourself. And so to be so disregarded in such a disrespectful way, honestly, it's at times I'm lost for words. At the end of the day, a guy's a guy. Whether or not Wes and I are working on a relationship, you just can't put anything past a man.
30:06But I just never would think that it would have come from someone like Amanda, who has been what has felt like in my circle and in my corner for so long. I think that's the craziest part.
30:14Claudia Oshry:That's the truth. Like, yeah, the West moving on with someone else was always going to happen. And there's really no one he could have moved on with. That would be that shocking aside from even if it was someone in the house like Bailey, you know, like whatever. What not that shocking? Like it would literally be as if he were with Paige. Like, yeah, the bar is extremely low for him. And he so met up like went even lower than any of us could have decided. So nothing about what West has done is that shocking. But even if he was someone in the house, it would have been really shocking. But like, you know, we could deal with it.
30:51Claudia Oshry:We could wrap our head around it. We would have been able to, someone could hypothetically, let's say it was Bailey. I think that's a good example. We would have been able to like sort of defend her.
30:58Jackie Oshry:And it's like, yeah, it's unfortunate for Sierra. But like, you don't know Sierra. You like this guy. Like, sure, you're brought into this house. This is just indefensible.
31:07Claudia Oshry:It's the betrayal from Amanda that's the most shocking thing. And I know that people like to be like, well, we should be giving them equal hate. Wes and Amanda. Like, why does the woman get more hate? Well, because the woman did something worse. Yeah. Yes, I would agree with that. Except in this article, they said it was akin to if Selena Gomez left Benny Blanco and started dating Travis Kelsey. Like, no, it's not. Wait, let me think. If Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco got divorced. No, no, because they're actively together and started dating Joe Alwyn. yeah yeah that's a better they were together for six years like and they also said it's like leah remini dating ben affleck okay that's her ex-husband maddie healy maddie healy okay yeah this is a good example selena gomez divorces benny blanco and starts dating maddie okay maddie healy was like a decade long but also taylor is in a very happy relationship sierra and amanda were not so it's like no it's not it's not a perfect yeah no it's not perfect but I just thought that that was like such a miss from them.
32:12Claudia Oshry:Leah Remini dating Ben Affleck. Ben and Jen were married.
32:17Braxton Berrios:And also I think like Leah Remini and JLo like have been.
32:19Claudia Oshry:I think they're just trying to like explain it for people who don't know the situation. It would be like that, but it's actually not like that.
32:25Braxton Berrios:But the reason why this is so crazy is because you actually can't compare it to anything. You can't even compare it to Sandoval. Like you just can't. And it's the best friendship that's the betrayal,
32:33Claudia Oshry:more so than the like whoever the guy was. I'm surprised she didn't do like a podcast or something just because like I feel like you really get to say your piece more although what I got from this article is that she doesn't really have anything to say like what it's all already been said um it's going to be said at the reunion mostly like for the team it's going to be said at the reunion they asked her like have you spoken to what was your last conversation with Amanda like she was like it was very minimal but we'll discuss that at the reunion so like yeah well I think that she
33:00Braxton Berrios:whatever press she does now and this goes for everyone when their season is airing you do have to get your press approved by Bravo if you go on a podcast if you go do an interview so I
33:08Jackie Oshry:this was sanctioned by Bravo.
33:11Braxton Berrios:Sometimes people go rogue and the network gets really mad.
33:13Claudia Oshry:Yeah, so there's not a lot of like information in here or tea or anything. It's more so just like a major moment. Catching up. No, and like a major moment for her. And it's like about like uplifting her and like the pictures are beautiful. And it's just like, here I am. This is my first statement. I feel exactly as how you would expect. Right. And I'm, you know, I'm back. yeah I don't think it was meant to sort of shatter anything that's going to be told to us at the reunion which I believe I've heard films next week and Andy was on radio Andy making some news couple things couple things he said he said one this idea that the reunion's being filmed separately and like Wes and Amanda are going to film a separate segment not true everyone's sitting together good two they are currently cutting and re-editing episodes and I do think he didn't say last week's was edited but he does say next week's is crazy and i think next week's is confirmed edited but i think last week's was edited not only because of like the sitting on when west sits on you as a car showing you sierra looks weird sabrina sabrina someone said i think it was jesse said in a in a confessional where he looks different and new he said that um west the way he's like moving in his relationships like he's just gonna end up like kyle and he was the first time anyone compared Wes to Kyle in the beginning of the season the first time since I did it I saw people putting this out on TikTok they have been teasing this like big fight between Carl and Kyle in the driveway and then they stopped teasing it and it's like it doesn't happen it happened in the in the earlier um in the earlier episodes they kept teasing this like big blowout fight and now it's almost like it they decided it's not happening so yes they definitely are editing wait it's not happening why isn't it happening because they just have
34:58Braxton Berrios:sort of dropped it from existence it hasn't been promoted it might have already happened like it's gone allegedly there's no way maybe there is no fight no there is a fight i don't know why they
35:09Claudia Oshry:would have to cut that and also like this is what bothers me because it's like okay so amanda was this villainous person for the second half of the season and they weren't going to show us that because they were telling a different story and if she hadn't hooked up with west we would have see one version of the show and now that you're Kyle's a villain and she's some big victim we're seeing a different version of the show and it's like just give us the fucking truth and let us make up our minds you don't have to like push us in one direction and you certainly don't have to make it worse for Amanda and like pepper it with things that are going to make it worse for and make people think that they started having an affair this summer which like I know I'm naive and I do give people the benefit of the doubt but I don't think that they were I don't think that That's kind of what they are sort of sprinkling around.
35:55Yeah, just because they want to rile up their crazy fans. I don't think that. That's really irresponsible, I just want to say. I agree.
36:02Claudia Oshry:No one's crazier than the Bravo fans, and they don't even need riling up, so really you don't have to do that. But Andy did say on Radio Andy, and it's giving Alan Cummings, saying that episode of Traitors is the craziest episode of TV he's ever seen in his whole life when it was extremely mid. But Andy did say that next week's Summer House is just fucking crazy. I do believe him. Andy doesn't say that a lot. Yeah, but like how can it, like what's even going to happen? If you think about like where we're at in the show, like I think Wes and Ciara have a conversation. Maybe there's like a big thing with Wes and Amanda.
36:30Like maybe, I don't know. I don't know. There's literally not. And like Kyle and Amanda like continue to suck. Like where we're at in the story, we're not really primed for a crazy weekend. Well, we'll just have to see. Yeah, so that's the latest Summer House.
36:46Claudia Oshry:So next up, going back to previous discussion, Alex Cooper will make her acting debut alongside Anne Hathaway in a new Colleen Hoover adaptation, Verity. So at CinemaCon on Wednesday, Amazon MGM Studios unveiled its first look at Verity, the film adaptation of Colleen Hoover's psychological thriller, which features a scene with Alex Cooper. According to Deadline, the trailer opens with Alex Cooper playing herself, interviewing Anne Hathaway's character, renowned author Verity Crawford, on her hit podcast, Call Her Daddy. before she goes mute i guess so yeah or so or is it the end of the story you know right she's at the end telling the story and then we'll go back oh oh yeah maybe um so this is where alex cooper is falling into a little bit of the james corden trope where like you know you're getting every gig because you are well liked by people so much so that the great john mulaney once said i'll always bring it back likability is a prison and there's really only one place to go when people like you and that's to just like truly cancel cancel station and so honestly this is such a slay on her behalf outside of this big
37:51Braxton Berrios:drama that's going on right now um this is really cool for her and people are like you know in the comments like enough with her enough but it's like slay you would do it too for a check not even for a check i do it for free a thousand percent like it's i don't think it's about money it's just like ubiquity and like that that's cool um very yeah i guess the timing like is a little icy with the
38:13Claudia Oshry:announcement because people aren't going to be like all for it because they're just in a hateful mood right now correct but i think this is objectively very cool agreed it's great for podcasting great for podcasting can't wait for my close-up and verity crufford would go on call her daddy to tell her story yes she would right or like mel robbins no not to tell her story no no let me think like where would i guess like where would an author go to tell their story
38:42Braxton Berrios:the redheads correct it should have opened up been you it should be on the redheads you and dana and rebecca and marco i just want to say i would be so upset like i would be so upset imagine like the redheads got like a huge moment because you know i'm kind of gunning for a seat i know you are i feel like i said talk to marco have you ever spoken to her about it she's coming over for dinner tonight i'll make sure to bring it up it's sort of tense and awkward way make her like a nice dinner and sort of butter her up maybe buy her out okay i'll offer her four dollars that's so rude we we do ads no no i wasn't saying that as a reflection on the worth of the redheads i was just saying it sounded like i'm willing to pay it sounded like a reflection on the worth of redheads it sounded like you said we're broke it sounded like you said we're broke well you are we're not and we have a but heavily anticipated next merch collection whenever that i decide to drop that that will be a million dollar endeavor seven figures spring summer joggers seven off seven attorneys big business deals it's gonna be a seven figure collection
39:45Claudia Oshry:we'll call it that okay um so that is cool you know what i was thinking about though and it's like all this licks versus lex stuff and i do feel like alex huber like doesn't ever stop to explain herself i would like an understanding of like why dakota is on on well winter games and like how we're how we're sort of swallowing that pill as a woman woman definitely she's definitely like at a weird transitional period and like yeah do a solo episode and tell us why yeah like stand up for your choice you know because i just feel like that's what i was saying the other day like
40:20Jackie Oshry:she does not share anything personal whether that's even her business she is just a vessel to create content around other people that used to be like actors and actresses and now it's like more so reality stars so that's why the whole thing is so shocking because i don't think she's ever even literally sat down and talked to us on Instagram about something that's going on in her life it's always promoting a business or talking about somebody else or an episode like that's why this is so shocking it's the first time she's ever like since leaving Sophia like opened up personally she does solo episodes every now and then being like you know Matt and I did this like it's never really that yeah maybe maybe it's because she's kind of like blameless in the situation well she has to think she really did nothing wrong in order to open this up yeah
41:05Claudia Oshry:because like I feel like she doesn't answer for a lot of these other things because there's really
41:08Jackie Oshry:like not a good way to spin it yeah she doesn't ever I think one of her big no-go's when she goes on podcasts but she doesn't do a lot it's like people are not allowed to ask her about the Sophia Franklin then and that and that's because like if you were to critically look at it like she did play a large part and she had wrongdoings right but with this I feel like she really doesn't think she did anything wrong so unless Alex Earl has some big secret I don't know what it's gonna be yeah me neither are you even though I did recently see like a mashup and I know I hate when people like go back and look at stuff being like this was weird because at the time everybody ate it up but the list of questions that she was asked Alex Earl that she was asked by Alex Cooper on their inaugural episode together where they're sitting on those inflatable chairs sitting on her balcony how many guys have you fucked when did you lose your virginity do you ever have anal what kind of porn do you like like fucking crazy for a college aged girl so I hate when people like look back I remember I just want to say I feel good enough to know that like I remember at the time thinking it was weird and I think I even said on the show like that some of the questions
42:10Claudia Oshry:were so crazy like anal I remember watching it and being really shocked by it like jaw on the floor um but this was getting the the culture ate right but I didn't I didn't eat it up so like I feel comfortable saying I never thought that that sort of questions were really appropriate or really amazing for women you know yeah yeah but you would have been like such a hater if you said it at the time yeah maybe I just said nothing I don't remember what I said um but yeah again if you ate it up then shut the fuck up now put it on a shirt sure i love that that's really like the moral of the story that's what like with amanda too you were all eating it up like it's not even about alex specifically it's this is such a thing with like like um group think on the internet like you ate it up then but you like hate it now shut the
43:02Jackie Oshry:fuck up yeah yeah if you ate it up then shut the fuck up now oh yeah love are you ready for our next story what number number three oh wow yeah yeah it might be a four-story day um no no we can't we have like a built-in ad break i keep going victoria beckham is teaming up with gap on a new collection so victoria beckham x gap collection is fully in the work sources confirmed to page six that she is ready uh to share her ready-to-wear minimalist luxury bluran to collaborate with the retailer and an announcement is expected soon i love i fucking love a diffusion line like they don't do it enough i feel like h &m had a couple of years where they were doing it remember h &m isabel morant like you could the stories were insane h &m moschino no remember remember was sony for target oh that was like the first one they really they they sold a bike do you remember the bike that was a cultural reset i fucking love when people do this it's not done enough i love victoria back on her dresses are insanely priced like this is this is what we want this is what we want yeah i think it's gonna be great like
44:04Claudia Oshry:basics from like an elevated woman with an immaculate taste thanks no this is great for victoria like because you know there's not a lot of money in like dressing you know they say you
44:14Braxton Berrios:dress for the masses dine with the classes or design for the masses eat with the classes so this is where the money's at i think this will do really well for her financially but she's doing well financially also because she's pivoted to beauty a lot and like makeup is just really profitable and i think makeup her makeup i know it's like a little popular here i think it's really popular in the UK. I use her eyeliner. I bought her like white eyeliner. I like it. Like I keep like meaning to get stuff from her but like it hasn't. Do they sell at Sephora?
44:40Claudia Oshry:Well I got targeted ads and so I bought it through Instagram but then they stopped. Maybe they like you know decrease their paid media spend because I've stopped getting ads. Yeah I just feel like if your makeup doesn't sell at Sephora I'm going to have a really hard time acquiring it. I didn't have a hard time. I had a pleasant experience and then I got the Posh
44:59Braxton Berrios:bomb sorry i mean i'm gonna have a hard time like finding the will to go acquire it it's not yeah i guess i disagree i love victor of course you do i love victoria beckham for gap i just love this i didn't even much like cynthia revo i didn't know this was happening it hasn't been fully announced yet but that's just a little insider information and i want like more people to do this like rachel zo her shit's at tj maxx like ruby exclusively wears tj maxx rachel zo i love this. I love it. Yeah. Are you ready for our fourth story? No. No. Now she's not ready. Is it our fourth story that's brought to you by Hulu's new show The Testaments?
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49:37Braxton Berrios:beautiful. Our next story, Megan Trainor is canceling her tour. Megan Trainor put out a
49:43Claudia Oshry:statement saying, after a lot of reflection and some really tough conversations, I've made the difficult decision to cancel the Get In Girl tour. Balancing the release of a new album, preparing for a nationwide tour and welcoming our new baby girl tour growing family of five has just been more than I can take on right now. And I needed to be home and present for each and all of them at this time. I know this will come as a disappointment to my fans and I'm so sorry to let you down, but I know this is the right decision for my family and me right now. I promise I'll be back soon and I can't wait for you to hear this new record I'm so proud of it and I'm endlessly grateful for your love and support always like not to be a bitch I know what you're gonna say like people don't cancel successful tours just saying it's giving low ticket sales and yes I think everything in there is true I think the like she was feeling overwhelmed she does have a new baby and then that on top of like you have to go do a tour that's not even doing well but I think if the tour was majorly successful in terms of ticket sales and she had all this on our plate she would just still sort of have to do it right no I I'm gonna believe her like first of all I saw a lot of her old tour content I don't know why I'm not like a Meghan Trainor girl so I actually think like she has tour shtick and she's like perfect for a tour her songs are fun and like I don't think she like bites off more than she can chew in terms of like venue sizes like I think she like knows what sort of tour she can sell and I think she's become like a new mama of three and so she's in like the same position I am right now and um anything that she thought she should do she probably can't do and that's beautiful i can understand how like you could have a tour and then be like oh just do the show like you know just push it no if i like i would
51:09Jackie Oshry:we're canceling we're clearing the decks so i might agree with you if at present moment she was very culturally relevant and her music was popping off i think a lot of her success is predicated on the algorithm right like she is somebody who has been you know rebuilt time after time she's come back from oblivion people thought she was a one-hit wonder tiktok has been hugely instrumental in her comeback and i think her last comeback which was akudama gucci on gucci launched this huge like catastrophic no not catastrophic like in a good way like huge um yeah like sometimes you only need to say one word yes agreed why sometimes we have to say two or three words thank you i think it launched this huge comeback for her resurgence a whole new generation of fans people were obsessed with her tiktok tiktok tiktok her last tour was pretty successful um she was doing big arenas and i just think that when your whole um like fan base is just predicated on the algorithm and what tiktok will do for you it's not 100 sustainable so i actually just i do think it was unsuccessful ticket sales and there's no shame in that looking at this calendar as a mother of three smalls this could never happen this could never be done even if the all the tickets sold like i'm how is she gonna do this
52:25Claudia Oshry:i'm not buying it it's not possible but i mean she definitely bit off more than she could chew in terms of that but i guess she thought she'd be able to and also like she had her third via surrogacy so maybe she didn't expect like she didn't have to bounce back like she thought she would have like an easier time you're not like struggling with postpartum and sure i could like run out and do a show but like it's not even like the postpartum i don't want to the whole postpartum is a whole other beast but it's just like the having of three littles yeah i'm sorry like you need new team if you thought you could do this well I just want to say I really respect
52:56Jackie Oshry:you for your take because even though I don't agree with it I respect your you know your opinions
53:03Braxton Berrios:and how your life experience is sort of coloring those opinions while I don't agree with this take
53:07Claudia Oshry:of yours I do it in a respectful way I feel like unless you're the mother of three smalls right now like and if you are you see this and you're like oh of course she couldn't do it and if you're like nothing you probably maybe she didn't have like amazing tickets also maybe if every ticket was sold she would have like thrown herself into it had to and like you know had a really hard time but like just cancel you know some you could always just cancel it's just this concert even if someone bought a ticket like they'll get a refund it's just a concert just cancel i love canceling i think that people don't cancel enough and yeah barring like you know adele doing it the day of and everybody flew in because they were on the plane and they got the center like morgan wall and people are literally walking into the stadium yeah giving people advance notice making sure they can get their money back i like cancel more stuff this year i just wish more people would cancel and like don't worry about like your career is not over like it's fine like you have to like you have to prior like you have to live you know you have to prioritize meg's self like this could never happen i don't know why she ever thought it could but sometimes sometimes you do that no that happens all the time i kind of do something i kind of pop was gonna open that's kind of cool i don't care i love it
54:25i need to go see megan trainor on tour and now you do now i can't was she coming to my city maybe i know she wasn't coming to florida at all i know she was going to orlando they always are they always are okay get in girl are you ready for our fifth and final story Oh, is that the song? Get in, girl? Get in, girl. Get in, girl. The new song of hers that I know is My love's gonna take you to the moon.
54:55Braxton Berrios:Yeah, that was like two years ago. Moon. And then she also has a song with Me Be Web. Cute. Yes, she does. Yeah, it's pretty good. She's around. Yeah. She makes it work. She makes it work. She's married to Juni Cortez. She makes a living. Yeah. A good one. And probably my favorite Meghan Trainor fact is that it's actually her voice on the J-Lo song Ain't Your Mama. Yeah, that's like going viral now. It goes viral every couple of years because it is the craziest thing that Jennifer Lopez literally released a song under her name and didn't change. I think Meghan Trainor wrote the song and probably sent the demo off to J-Lo and maybe J-Lo sang a couple of lines, but for the most part, it's Meghan Trainor.
55:34Well, you know Enti, the theory that I sort of moved on from. Yeah, one of the biggest blind conspiracy theories is that Jennifer Lopez cannot sing for shit and has never once sang on any of her records. Back in the day, they think it was Aaliyah's voice. Like there have been many people who have, Julia Michaels, Meghan Trainor, many people whose voice is used for, I think with the invention of AI, Jennifer Lopez no longer needs a stand-in.
55:59Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but then, so I always believed that and I just was like, she doesn't sing, she can't sing. Like it's like the big orchestrated thing and like, but then we saw her perform at the Robin Hood Gala live and I was like, oh, she's singing, okay. never mind yeah she did release and i'm sorry like someone who can't sing like doesn't get this super bowl like they could choose anyone else not the one who's like hiding this big secret so she put a video on her instagram this video i will never forget this video oh the iconic happy days it's like one of the hardest songs to sing in it's sung by barbara streisand no it's sung by like two iconic theater people
56:41Braxton Berrios:they did it in glee curt and rachel like people eat it up she like is singing with her turnt friend and put it on her instagram and it's like literally so bad just jenifer lopez yeah ready
56:58Braxton Berrios:okay it's actually good i take it back
57:05it's just a lot like it's annoying and i wish you could see it it's a lot of it's a lot
57:25they're off too is that jennifer
57:31it's not bad i just want to say it's one of the hardest songs ever to sing she sings so it's not bad it's just like a lot like it's annoying um and also like comments are cracking jennifer lopez and show tunes it's like oil and water agreed they don't mix agreed i don't want to hear her singing show tunes i like that our that was oh our fifth and final story does episode ever like i just feel like every story is like right very for the final and we still have like i it's because i have like a tab here for beverly hills i'm like we're still not on that fucking tab oh god i forgot we still have yeah beverly hills recap but no this is a small story and it sort of relates back to our favorite subject but braxton barrios was spotted with a new lady love i saw they don't know who she is right uh her name is holly ford what a great name yeah she's a model and she's gorgeous and i'm just like mad at
58:29Claudia Oshry:braxton because like sure like it's just rude you know like alex still loves you and you're like out here with holly ford looking so fucking happy like stop and like i know that alex broke up with you
58:39Braxton Berrios:broke your heart left you to die on the side of the road but like go back i do feel like i was thinking about him this morning i feel like alex and him need to get back together and especially at a time like this i know she's a really good support system around her like she's really great friends and really great family but i think she needs braxton i don't think she left him on the side of the road like no i was totally kidding i was kidding i feel like they just didn't you know
59:02Claudia Oshry:i think there were probably like bigger things like cities living in maybe like he wants to like settle down sooner than she does and i just think like life came between them like not anything based on how they feel yeah he was a nice boy yeah and so like yeah he deserves love too and And he seems to be like a serial monogamous, like just wants love with beautiful. He wants to love beautiful women. Like he's a lover of women, you know. I love that. And it seems like they're all like very premium women. Like Holly's gorgeous, Alex, Sophia Colbo. Like he's got great taste in women, you know.
59:36Jackie Oshry:Yeah. What can you do? I don't like it. I don't like it either. There's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with it. He has to move on. Yeah, no, he has to live.
59:47Braxton Berrios:I just do it in private you know yeah and he's in LA like go back to Houston where you belong
59:56Claudia Oshry:it's like this season's over but it's like of course you're like gonna get seen in LA like you can date someone I saw he was also paparazzi I think having coffee with the same girl and the paparazzi across the street was like what do you know about Alex Cooper he's like leave me alone so he like he's you know he likes being famous and he's mostly famous like not for his football accomplishments but like for his social life and he's like an investor in a lot of like big companies so he likes that life of course he's in LA
1:00:27okay Braxton okay Braxton
1:00:32Claudia Oshry:next up TV recap Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was that the season finale? Yes was it? Yeah because it said next week at the reunion Oh, good. And they did the text on screen at the end. Oh, my God. Did I finish the episode? It ended with like one last fight between Doreen and Sutton. Oh, my God. Wait, I didn't finish the episode. Oh, that's so funny. I saw her get up after the conversation with Erica, and then Ben came in. Did we go to bed? Oh, my God. I didn't finish it. Let me tell you. You think the episode's over. Text on screen's coming up. Doreen gets up from the conversation. Everyone's sort of parting ways.
1:01:04And then she goes upstairs to sit on another couch with Bows. and Sutton meanders over and is like, you really hurt my feelings the other day.
1:01:14Claudia Oshry:Sutton, like let the mouse go. And Dorit is like, I hurt your feelings. I'm very sorry. She's like, look, you don't even seem sorry. And Dorit's like, what do you want me to do to prove that I'm sorry to you? And the thing is, Dorit won't say sorry to Erica. She won't say sorry to Kyle. Like she's goading toe to toe, but Sutton said she hurt her feelings and Dorit's like, I'm sorry. And by the way, I'm having deja vu because the week before, it didn't have the same conversation. where Dorit said she was sorry. She goes back to have a conversation. Dorit said, you hurt my feelings the other night.
1:01:43And Dorit again, I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. You don't seem sorry. And they just blow up out of nowhere and they go back to like text on screen. The thing is, is that I'm like a diehard Dorit fan and I've loved Erica the whole time she's been on the show. She's really pissing me off. And it's not that Dorit hasn't done anything that I like. She's not indefensible. No, that's what I'm looking for. She's not innocent in all of this, right? There are legitimate qualms, and I do feel like Erica has legitimate concerns for her. But doing it with Kyle, you're just giving Mean Girl. Kyle is obsessed with Dorit and obsessed with coming from a place of concern, even though she is so not coming from a genuine place.
1:02:22And I'm sorry, Erica really lost me when she said, well, maybe PK was right. Kyle said that last season or the season before. I think it's so disgusting. Imagine if somebody said that about Tom. mom i just like you lost me completely and yeah whatever er whatever dorita's done she is late and maybe she's been like short and sharp sure like we could have had it out in a civil way but erica went about it the wrong way doing it with kyle because kyle is a bad motherfucking faith actor and then saying the thing about pk and kyle's been a bad faith actor for like three
1:02:50Claudia Oshry:years mind you no and and re clocked her when kyle's listing off all the nice things she's done for over the years which yeah you used to be a good three years ago three years ago what have you done kindly for me since when have you supported me since Kyle and Dorit for me I don't even see why they would need to be friends at this point like there's nothing really to salvage there it is such a shame with Eric and Dorit because they like did have a real friendship and the fact that it could just turn so quickly and I understand like Dorit took it to here at in Italy but like so did Erica so they both need to like forgive each other and apologize to each other it's not one of them who did something more wrong and I imagine Dorit is such a frustrating like a not a fun person to be friends with right now she is frantic she is late she is stressed she's overwhelmed but like that's the point of friendship is like if you can't be a friend when it's hard to be a friend like anyone can be a friend when it's easy Dorit and Kyle will never be friends like they are so far from one another yeah I do think that Dorit and Erica is a friendship worth saving and that there's a lot of miscommunications happening but as long as Erica keeps operating like under Kyle's thumb it's and like also in defense of Kyle if she can't separate her friendship with Dorit from the three of them it's never going to work yeah and I want to give Erica more credit not that she's operating under Kyle's thumb because I really don't think she can be like managed like that but I think that she should recognize that she should take up her beef with Dorit separately from independently like not be on a walk the three of them and be on Kyle's side like it's never going to end well because Kyle and Dorit aren't going to end well so like she needs to not be backing up Kyle just have like her own separate grievances and because the way that she's airing them like it is a gang up yeah and then like just Kyle's so desperate to make it all like we all think this we all we all we all and nobody speaks up on her behalf like and she's like screaming at everyone it's so desperate she's obsessed with like getting everyone to turn on Dorit and it's just not happening it worked on on Erica though yeah and then also Kyle's like will someone speak up and then Erica's like agreed and then Sutton agrees like Sutton is the biggest follower it's the craziest thing I just want to give MVP like I'm not of the season but just wow major congratulations to Amanda Francis who turned it turned it out she turned it around I thought her um reasoning for going to Dorit's event was so genuine genuine and like that's what we're always saying like women who support other women and it's like if you don't actually support another woman if you if you're worried about her finances but you won't actually support her endeavors and trying to make money like are you really worried about her finances and I thought the Dorine's book party was going to be like like kind of sad because who has a cover party for like a book they haven't written yet and half the castmates don't show up just like are unveiling a picture but it was so full of love and purpose and and meaning and I was so not expecting that and then to make it a celebration of Boz's engagement and the girls that were there were really there for her and it did turn into be like a big moment in the season and like I I now want to now I see like what supporting Dorit's book will mean for Dorit I will be ordering Dorit's book I also just one thing with Amanda I completely agree I still think
1:05:58Jackie Oshry:she's like miscast and whatever but I do think she turned it around and there is something about walking the walk and talking the talk and that's exactly what she did I just want Dorit to be like a little bit more grateful like I thought they had a nice moment but it would have I think went a long way with Amanda just to be like you know outwardly grateful and she was like nodding and smiling and it was nice but I think she should have been like a little bit more uh like charismatic
1:06:21Claudia Oshry:yes um I think that the way that we watched it as viewers the way it was packaged to us made us realize what how Amanda was like going out of her comfort zone to do this whereas Dorit might have thought like the whole cast was going to come and now these people who have like long-standing issues with her aren't coming but like why would amanda francis miss a cast event not realizing and i think maybe i'm gonna give her credit that when she watches the episode that she will have amanda more of an appreciation for like her line of thinking that's a good analysis because she probably just expected amanda to show up just like she shows up she
1:06:55Braxton Berrios:has to show up for her job yeah yeah yeah yeah no you're right you're right it was sweet it it was
1:07:00Claudia Oshry:sweet and i thought that was like a really sweet moment and episode i'm lit up for the reunion i I know it's been a boring season, but like I'm down. Yeah. I know it hasn't been more exciting. Just like the girls. I don't need them to always be popping off. It's been like a little frustrating, but I've enjoyed, you know, watching the glitz and the glam and Rachel and Kathy. Bring Denise back. Bring Denise back. Erica's saying bring Lisa Rinna back. Bring Lisa Rinna back. Even though I don't think at this point she would. Really? Why? Because right now she's having like a big moment. I don't think she needs housewives.
1:07:32Maybe there were years where like if they would have asked, she would have come back. but right now she's kind of riding a high from traders her book did really really well I think she's like big in fashion she has to bet it's couture couture honey and I think right now she doesn't need it but it's not gonna last and she knows that better than anyone maybe the next time they reach out she'll be in a place where like she should accept it but I don't think she
1:07:52Claudia Oshry:needs to right now no she doesn't even though I would love to have her back she doesn't need but like I think she'd be coming back in a position of power I think that you know if she'd come back in the other years when she really needed to like now she's coming back sort of on top of the world Like she has a lot of fan love behind her and her daughters are like so successful. You know, she'd be coming back as like a big dog again. Yeah. I think that she should. And I think that I'm ready to see her. I'm ready to receive her. Micheal. And there were many years where I wasn't. And I like need that for Dorit.
1:08:25Claudia Oshry:I need all this pressure off of Dorit. And like, it's all. Dorit is carrying the show. What's frustrating. I think it's like it's the demise of her family that's carrying the show. It's not even like she's in there stirring the pot. It's like it's such like a real thing. It's almost not fun to watch because you just know like what's coming for her. And I hate that it's like the central drama of the show because it's not a fun drama.
1:08:49Jackie Oshry:Yeah. It's not like tea and whatnot. I had a really hard time coming up with my Queenie and Weenie this week. just because like I haven't really made a decree on Lix Lex. So like maybe I could have made one of Alex's my weenie and one of the queenie, but like I don't know where we're at yet. Yeah, yeah. And that sort of took up my whole week. So I will say let's do Queenie and Weenie, our final segment of the week where Jackie and I like to give out two awards, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week. It's a great way to wrap up the week, send you guys off into the weekend, take a look back at a glance, if you will, and give out two awards.
1:09:20Jackie Oshry:They're pretty self-explanatory, Queenie of the Week and Weenie of the Week.
1:09:22Braxton Berrios:If you acted like a queenie, you might be queenie. if you acted like a weenie, you might be a weenie. Start with Queenie. I know we do it every week the same, and I always forget. We always start with Queenie, yes. Okay, my Queenie is more of a thing. It's a noun. It's not a person, not a place, but it's a thing.
1:09:40Claudia Oshry:Okay.
1:09:41Jackie Oshry:And it's the leading news source for Alex v. Alex. I feel like we kind of carried the internet this week, just in being like the internet's big sister. Yeah. And I feel like we gave a lot of really nuanced takes. We didn't like jump on the pile on. I feel like we're being very measured. And I just think the work that we did this week, if there was like a digital Pulitzer, like a Shorty Award, a Webby, I feel like what we did this week was spectacular. Honestly, I'm giving it to the toast. I love that. I nominate. I'd like to thank me. Correct. What about me? Queenie? Queenie. I mean, how can I top that?
1:10:16What am I going to say? What am I going to say? Like, yes, of course. I know we only give it to ourselves sparingly, but like, I'll take it, you know. Okay.
1:10:26Braxton Berrios:wiener so many i know i actually have one but i would start stuff and i know like i don't i can feel it no you don't yes i do i do know i'm gonna text it do you really yeah if you guess it right i'll share it oh i love that for us whereas wow we haven't texted in a while we haven't texted in a while we're always like communicating in group chats pk texas texan memes texan memes okay now I'm sending it to you. No jokes and memes? No. You got it wrong. Okay, tell me, but you don't have to say it now.
1:11:02I don't even know who that is.
1:11:04Braxton Berrios:Yeah, you do. I will not be saying it. So I'm abstaining from Weenie this week just because, like, I'm seeing all the internet drama. You can't see a real Weenie? While I'm living for it, I don't want to be a part of it. So, like, I'm not starting stuff. Okay. I think that's fine. I think it's fine. Do I have a Weenie? No. you have a vagina
1:11:27okay I don't believe in giving out weenies like superfluously no then that's mean-spirited agreed and takes like the power away from the title like if you weren't correct super weenie
1:11:38Braxton Berrios:what a great week Alex Earl if you post your fucking response video in the next hour or two like I will seriously never forgive you yeah save it till Sunday night at this point yeah I don't think Sally would let her do that to us. Sally. Yeah. Sally's sort of steering the ship, don't you feel? 1 ,000%, as she should. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast on the Monday morning show. We deliver the fast-paced radio news show every Monday the Friday. If you're watching us on YouTube, please don't forget to subscribe and give us a video. Thumbs up. We're also available at Spotify, Spotify, Twitter, and Twitter.
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