The Curious Case of the Feather: Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025

31:23I don't know if she does have to come back soon. Well, for Kylie. And she'll have to, you know, be an aunt to baby Chalamet. Right. I'm like, I'm on baby Chalamet watch now. Like, it's time. I do think about the fact that, like, Kylie has two kids. And so crazy because she's so young. And in the context of this relationship, like, what that means. Like, Timothy is the stepdad. We've never seen them all out together. But I imagine they do stuff. And, like, they've met Uncle Timmy. And what does that look like? I think it looks beautiful. Yeah. I mean, I think it really does look beautiful. He's not the stepdad.

31:56He's the dad who stepped up. Because they're still together. So, like, that's all going well. And they're so happy. And so I think it's really working out. And she wants a lot of kids. And this is the love of her life. So there will be baby Chalamet. Yeah. God willing. God willing. And those are things that I look forward to. God willing. God willing. Lee, I'm Hira. Are you ready for our next story? A little more love news. Mm-hmm. Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurst quietly marries Bree Burroughs. So the star player. Hearts are breaking everywhere. Yes. But, like, you guys couldn't get him. So let it be Bree.

32:40Ah! You never stood a chance. You never stood a chance. Like, he's so serious. He's so talented. like he's very devoted to this woman devoted he's loyal like i'm sorry you never stood a chance so who are you wasting your time thinking yeah the philadelphia eagles player uh and brianna brie burrows quietly tied the knot he revealed to men's health in his cover story published on tuesday he did not provide details on the private couple's spring wedding date or location instead he said that by the time the article was published the outlet could refer to her as his wife that's so cute. I didn't even know he had a girlfriend.

33:16He's very private. He's also, I feel like, one of those players who, like, is well-known and famous, like, for his work on the field. And that's it. You know, like, we don't know a lot about his personal life, except I know that, like, his whole team is women. They love that. Like, manager, agent, Pablo says everyone's a woman. But, like, beyond that, like, we just know his stats, and he keeps separation of church and state. So, I feel like that's kind of a nice way to live, but it's nice that he shared this with us. That's really cute. That is really cute. I also learned from Aaron Rodgers' documentary that, like, Like once you become a Super Bowl winning quarterback, the spotlight on your personal life gets so much bigger.

33:50Like before you're that, you're a famous football player, but like it becomes so much crazier. Like when you win the Super Bowl, when you're the star quarterback. Like for Aaron, things were quiet for him until he won the Super Bowl. That like changed his life. He's followed by cameras. I do agree that Jalen keeps it more under wraps. And Aaron was like, he has all this drama that follows him. Right. Like he was kind of like the perfect storm, not only because he has this like crazy family drama, But he dates famous women, like a lot of them. Danica, Olivia, Shayla. He makes it easy for the press to.

34:21But Jalen kind of lives a quiet life, as far as I know. So there's not a lot of meat there. Given that he won the Super Bowl this year, he is the best player in the league. I think we'll be hearing a lot more about him. Probably against his will. Probably against his will, yeah. Well, listen, it's the price of fame. It is. It's the price of greatness. They say that if you are to marry an athlete, like football players are the best ones because they have the shortest schedule and you have the most free time to get married. Whereas remember Kate Upton, when they were getting married, they had like three days off because her man is a baseball player, which is like the worst schedule.

35:00But he was also like an amazing one. So he was in the playoffs and then the World Series. And their wedding came really close to the actual World Series. Yeah. So, not that, you know, I'm looking, obviously. Not that you have your, like, pick of the... But if I did, like, I'd definitely be hanging out in the stadiums. You'd go football? Yeah. I feel like basketball, they don't, like... They don't like that. No, basketball, like, is a lot of games. It's, like, 80 games a season. Literally, the football players play 18 games. That's so funny, but they also get, like, seriously injured. And the baseball players have, they have, like, in the hundreds.

35:36Oh, but then you do have to deal with, like, perhaps, like, a concussion. Yeah. and like yeah that's tough that's tough for sure everything's a trade what do you think is least prone to injury um golf basket even though like you can like pull your shoulder no you golf elbow is a real thing ben gets it all the time planter's fasciitis planter's fasciitis and of course like a bad back i would say also tennis being a tennis wag looks to be fun page which makes it look fun. It does. It does. Except like when I think about attending a lot of games of a particular sport, tennis is so quiet. And it's like, yeah.

36:14And there's not a lot of giggle. It's not like high drama. It's a lot of boring before it gets interesting. Yes. Similar with golf. But golf, I didn't realize they play every weekend. They actually have crazy schedules. And for a lot of the men, like they have to choose between having like a, a happy family life and being like present dad or being like great. That's like what Tony Finau is experiencing in 2022. He's so cute though. Oh my God. He won one weekend on the PGA tour, 3M or something. And his whole family was there. He has like eight kids. Oh my God. And his wife's father had passed away that year.

36:48So she was struggling. So he brought his whole family on the tour. They traveled with him like the whole year. And all the commentators were saying like it was taking away from his game. Like he's so distracted. He's with his family. He chooses his family. God forbid. That's so wrong. Literally God forbid. And then he won with them there. and it was really cute. I was like getting a little emo and then I had to turn on the valley. But golf is like the same thing, like kind of quiet and boring. Peaceful. I think football, like the games are rowdy and fun, good food, liquor. Drank. I think, yeah, I think I'm definitely made for the football wag life if, you know, my time should ever come.

37:25And as a spectator in golf, you have to stand. And walk. Like from hole to hole. And walk. fuck no fucking way no fucking way thank you i forgot about that part you reminded me are you ready for our next story is that why you don't go with ben i mean there's a lot of reasons no when ben plays like with his amateur level you could take the cart yeah but they don't use carts no they don't that's what makes the sport correct are you ready for our next story pen badgley is sharing the struggle of dating blake lively while filming gossip girl so pen badgley went on call her daddy he's actually talking about being Dan Humphrey, which I don't know, feels surprising.

38:05Yeah. Except like when you're, he's a podcaster, like by trade and you kind of, you have to lean into the lore if you want to be successful. And he is a successful podcaster. He is. So he actually said that when he was doing gossip girl, living in New York and dating Blake, he felt, um, he had a hard time, like separating his like pen self from Dan self. He said, when you're doing a television show, you're doing it constantly he added that as his stardom grew people began linking him to his on screen character what starts to happen when you're in this one role for a long time the aspect of celebrity being a part of it a huge part of it there's not enough separation i think for anybody you're seen as this person you're called their name out on the street you're also constantly having to be that person at work he said that in his early 20s he lacked the emotional maturity to understand how to differentiate himself from dan humphrey in terms of self-worth he said what people seem to think of Dan seem to be what people thought of me like I really do feel that I see him as Dan Humphrey yeah a loser it's so true why only him I don't see Chase Crawford as only Nate Archibald well they it depends like it's circumstantial like I don't see Blair as Leighton Meester because she Leighton Meester as Blair because she went on and like did a total left turn and went into music and then Blake Lively I didn't really see a Serena because I knew her before.

39:25She was the only one I knew before. And then she went on to do roles that were just as big as Serena, right? And so every person's different. I do see Ed Westwick like pretty much as Chuck Bass, but that's a good thing because we like Chuck. Yeah. But also everything that Penn did after like was so Dan coded, like he couldn't differentiate himself from Dan because he kept being Dan. Jackie, because he is Dan. Because he is Dan. And I guess he's saying here like he's not entirely Dan, but he didn't even say that. He just said, I felt like I was Dan. Everyone was treating me like I was Dan. I was being Dan in my personal life.

39:56Because you were acting like Dan. Because you're fucking Dan. Yeah, no, it's so true. When I think of like,

40:05but it's not necessarily bad. It's just because Dan was like a weenie, loser-ass character. Like who would want to be? Because I think a lot, when I see like Kelly Rutherford, she's so Lily, right? Yeah, well that's because she's from Perkins. Yeah, and in real life, she like is all over Europe, fashion week. She's very fashion forward. Like that's good. Like yeah, you're Lily. Um, same with Ed Westwick. Like who wouldn't want to be like sexy mysterious? Then that's you. And then Dan, it's like, well, you're like artsy and grungy and like kind of insufferable. So I can see why you wouldn't like that.

40:34Serena. And then you started a band. Even though I don't, I actually don't think his Dan association has a lot to do with him dating Serena in my life. For him, it just, it was one more layer of like his personal life being Dan. And like in his, I imagine that's a mindfuck, especially when you're younger and like you really start to like feel like you're this person it's hard to separate the two yeah yeah um cry me a river tiny violins you're fine oh I don't feel sorry for him at all because he's Dan but it's just interesting to think about and I imagine other like teen or young stars on shows like this really start to feel like their characters in a way that might also like puff them up but then make them feel low because who are you a role like that is like a blessing but you have to be careful with what you do with it afterwards and so in terms of like roles you take and even people you date just how you're perceived publicly like if you don't want to be just this one thing forever you have to be strategic and I feel like he wasn't but I think other people were yeah but I think now I think strategic and then like it it reads so obvious that that's what you're trying to do you're trying to go so hard against what you were like I think for some people just like naturally works out and then for other people it's like you're either stuck as that person or you're Jenny Humphrey.

41:51Although in the long run I think he ended up fine right like he had enormous success with you and enormous success with his podcast but that was like really really like later on. I think it took a while. I imagine those years before you were like kind of dark. Yeah. Yeah a thousand percent. I have something in my eye if you can't tell. Are you getting emotional because of all the hard things that he went through? Just thinking about everything that Penn Badgley has gone through it's hard it's devastating how does somebody not start crying i've never seen you but you guys already know that yeah i haven't either you haven't that's surprising is it i thought that you had i'm not like murdery those are not my type of shows yeah and that one's for like the true crime podcast girls we'd be putting more respect on his name and we wouldn't be laughing at him.

42:41I just want to say at current Penn Badgley, like modern 2025 Penn Badgley, like I respect, like I, but I acknowledge it was a long road to get here. Are you ready for our next story? It's a little podcasting news starring your boyfriend. Okay, which one? I have so many boyfriends. Joe Manginello starting a podcast. No, but like not far off. John Mayer? No. okay tell me sebastian maniscalco will star in apple's first original scripted podcast called easy money the charles ponzi story um apple's first scripted podcast so apple's releasing original content now for podcasts yes and a scripted podcast which people have done before and this is the story of charles ponzi for whom the ponzi scheme is named of course um so apple's moving into scripted podcast for the first time and it's tapped sebastian maniscalco is one of the stars of its first project the company is launching easy money the charles ponzi story and bookie star maniscalco will voice the eponymous lead character oh so it'll be like a play yeah he has a very distinct voice and i think like him doing voice work whether i would have thought more like you know cartoons but this works too is really smart i find it so interesting that apple's like finally entering the podcast game like all these other platforms have been like creating original content doing big partnerships like well apparently they have original podcasts already in the non-fiction space with the likes of hooked the line and missed fortune but this never heard of any of those yeah this one is the first original scripted show when i hear this like i think i want to watch this on tv it's like if we're putting so many resources writers screen writers sebastian maniscalco get a camera i agree but maybe like this will happen and then it will get made into a TV show.

44:37And maybe that's another new way to get TV shows made. Like first you steal books and now you could steal a podcast. There have been a couple podcasts that have been adapted into. Serial? TV. I don't think they've done a show yet, but they did that Will Ferrell one where he's like a therapist. Oh. And that like steals the life of his client or something. Oh. And that gaslights him. Oh, oh, oh. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I do. That was a podcast. what I'm just gonna and with um was it Paul Rudd yeah yeah okay we're talking about the same thing uh show podcast and then what else I'm not sure but I know it's been done like a couple of times so it's like a new yeah it's a good idea it's a good idea and I think this sounds good sounds like a good story yeah i don't know next door yes um i feel like we are always doing documentaries like everybody's story has been turned over in some way or the other in a movie a documentary a podcast except mr ponzi except mr ponzi the ponzi i don't know a lot about him i don't know what his his scheme was what was the original scheme correct like i feel like they're gonna change the name of a ponzi scheme to like a made-off scheme like he out ponzi'd the ponzi right and it became such a bigger story that like now the word people use is like made off as a verb he got made offed right yeah but um that must be a great feeling for bernie yeah you did it bernie um i endorse this i think this is a great idea me too are you ready for our fifth and final story if it's a story that's brought to you by booking.com booking.yeah yeah so this episode of the toast is brought to you by booking.com booking.

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49:42He probably just kicked them in. Or after he hung up, he brought them in. Like they were actually really small. All three of them. Okay, because I was going to say, like if he walked into the studio before FaceTime, he could have shut it and then be like, hey, it's shut. I really, really appreciate your commitment to like seeing the worst in Ben for sure. I was on the phone with Ben, Jackie, in the street. I called him the second he left the house because I was like, you are not going to pull one over on me. Yeah. No, I am just committed to understanding the feathers. I know. Take them for testing.

50:11Maybe we just tracked them in on our shoes. Maybe it's as simple as that. Yeah. Maybe it was a simple tracking. Maybe Romeo got into a pillow. Jackie, it wasn't like a... I wouldn't touch it. I knew it had diseases on it. 100%. Our fifth and final story is some exciting TV news. Khloe Kardashian announces a new very excellent Kardashian Hulu spinoff called Calabasas Behind the Gates. so at the get real house which is hulu's hulu had like some big thing like panels the mormon wives were there they did a red carpet there was the trailer release giving it's kind of like an upfront yeah yeah uh they were announcing some new programming include and chloe was there because of course kardashian tulu because nobody works harder than her well nobody's working harder in their 40s than chloe if she were still 39 she wouldn't have been there but because she turned 40 she can launch popcorn a perfume a podcast and a spin-off show but she couldn't just just to wrap up yesterday's conversation jackie and i have been reached out to by cloud foods and we will be receiving the popcorn hopefully sometime this week they asked for our addresses so excited i'm excited too i actually heard it's very delicious i'm so excited i need some tasty popcorn and okay so here's the tea so chloe was talking about some major news coming to the network she said it's very very exciting very new very excellent we're excited to continue developing calabasas behind the gates will tell the story of those closest to the famous family such as friends and neighbors rob mills the executive vice president at disney hulu's parent company was also present to expand on the plot at the get real house of hulu he said we all want to know what's happening behind the gates of calabasas who are all these people in the extended lives of the kardashians so we're developing a show that we're actually at least for now calling calabasas behind the gates okay it's giving the working title of the real houses of orange county wasn't it also called beyond the gates yeah something like that um now i don't need to know like the plot of the show i need to know the cast of course because like if it's malika and scott and travis barker like we've seen that but i want maybe it's jessica simpson maybe it's jessica simpson i'm thinking of a lot of the people in the kardashians inner circle they don't live beyond the gates right like because i I was thinking like Olivia.

52:26Yeah. Or the two. Olivia and Nicole. Who are reality TV gold. But I don't think they live in Hidden Hills. No. I don't think it's about them either. I think. I hope it's about like moms who live in Hidden Hills. Who are friendly with the girls who would be like. Like almost like Real Housewives of Calabasas. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Maybe it's people we don't know. Yes. Those moms I'm talking about. Yeah. Or women. Yeah, I feel like when we see pictures of the kids, there's always random kids there. It's like, who are their moms? Yeah. I feel like it's real Housewives of Hidden Hills. And I love that. I kind of like this idea.

53:04Although the name is stolen. Well, they obviously didn't trademark it, or the trademark expired. But I like Behind the Gates. Calabasas. And Chloe's always saying, maybe she was teeing us up for this, but in last season, she's always like, Behind the Gates. She never leaves the gates. I'm leaving the gates. I'm in the gates. And it's all about the gates. She's by the way, totally teeing us up. That's actually such a good call. She was saying it so much like that. That I actually it raised a flag for me. I didn't think I was TV show was coming. But I was like, why do they always say it like that?

53:30I'm leaving the gates, the gates. No, and they don't always say it like that. Like just this year, this year. But also Chloe wasn't leaving her house until she turned 40. And I just want to say, like, I'm so glad she turned 40 because like she's obviously has a new lease on life and she's committed to making her 40s her best decade yet. But like she could have done all of this at 39. And it was just like a mental block. Listen, however she got here is how she got here. But like she's doing so much podcast cloud. And by the way, it is cloudfoods.com. So it's going to be more than. Yes, cloudfoods.

53:55The Instagram was cloudfoods. It's going to be more than popcorn, assuming the popcorn does well. And literally she's going to be. Robert Kraft. OK. From your mouth to God's ears. Now she's doing the spinoff show. Still doing Kardashian's Hulu. She did her fragrance at Harrods. Chloe in Wonderland is also really crushing. I see it all over the charts. She's the elk of a podcaster. and she always has been from that. We knew that she was. We always have said that it's so crazy the Kardashians don't have their own podcast. And if they did, it would have to be her or Kris. And the fact that like now that there, now that there is like a Kardashian podcast, if there's ever.

54:35Okay, it was about social justice. Like it was about prison reform. I don't, I'm saying like anytime there's like a scandal, like that's where they're going to go. Take it to Khloe in Wonderland. Right, they have like an in-house platform now. It's so smart. I don't know. I can't believe they didn't have that before. and she'll be like such a safe space for celebrities i actually yes what's red table talk right which is funny because of like the jordan woods red table talk and now like that will be chloe even though she hasn't used her couch like that at all yet she's just talking people she's interested in no she's building it up and it's becoming reputable but it will become that i could see other people like going through scandal or feeling misunderstood like going to chloe because she's just like there to listen and support and not judge we listen and we don't judge Let's dive into the Valley recap because I'm feeling like I have like only a few minutes left inside of me to finish this podcast, you know?

55:19Speaking of the Valley and podcasts on Watch What Happens Live, Andy asked them, who do you think has the most unnecessary podcast in the cast? Who in the cast has a podcast? Every single person. Jax and Brittany. Jax and Brittany. Janet and Jason have a podcast. Michelle has a podcast. Nia and Danny have a podcast. Kristen has a podcast. No, Claudia, the better question is who doesn't. Who did they say? Kristen said that Michelle's is the most unnecessary part. Because she just hates Michelle. And then Nia said that Janet and Jason's is the most unnecessary because she's beefing with Janet. So, of course, like the person you don't like.

55:56So, I would agree that Michelle's is the most unnecessary. And let me tell you why. This is one of my feelings from the episode. It was very hard to watch her scenes with Jason. I know I lack context. So, just based on whatever. So, I know I lack context because I didn't watch season one. And so based on what I know, tell me if I'm wrong. Like, I think that Jesse is the most evil man on the planet. Like, I fucking hate him. And yeah, she probably wasn't perfect in the marriage, yada, yada. But like, the way she's so right about him, like his tears are fake. My daughter comes and says that the dog should stay with me because I'm lonely.

56:29Shut up. Like, and when they called Sheena and Sheena was like, yeah, that girl said that. Like, I hate this fucking man. And I think he's evil. And I feel actually so sorry for her. but it's also painful to watch her because she, he knows exactly how to get under her skin and she like lets him and she's not a good fighter. Like she doesn't have good words. And so that's why she makes a bad podcaster. She's not a good talker. Yeah. She's not a good talker. Um, but Heather McDonald said this like a while ago that these days having a podcast is like having an Instagram account. It doesn't matter like how big it is.

56:58Like everyone who has an Instagram like has a podcast. And so everyone just has a podcast. So I guess we have to kind of see it like that. I agree. I don't know why. I don't hate Jesse as much as you do, but I really do hate him when it comes to Michelle. Like he's just making things so difficult and like he doesn't want to be married to her. So just like let her go. Like make it easy. Stop torturing her. No, but he's, no, he tortures her with the kid and it's so evil. Yeah. When she's, he's like, you'll drop her off on Sunday with the nanny and she says, okay, which nanny? Doesn't matter. And no, it does.

57:25No, it literally matters who's watching the kid. Yeah. Cause like, is there a nanny or is it your girlfriend? And he was like, he was like, well, right. But then he was like, Michelle just thinks that like I take the kid to hurt her and I just you know go live my life and I drink and I socialize and I date and I leave the kid with the nanny and that's not true but what she doesn't realize is how much I struggle to balance my business my personal life and my single dad life I'm like oh so what she said is exactly true you have too much going on you work too much you date too much you socialize too much and you don't have time to be a dad right like you literally just admitted what she thinks of you is the absolute she never even said that but now I'm like yeah you live leave the kid with the nannies and the iPad thanks for letting us know yeah nanny's on the ipad yeah i also appreciate that michelle like when he starts crying she's like you're doing this for sympathy like because we don't know what he says to her behind the scenes and i might have watched that and been like oh my god jesse cries like he really must be feeling right she's like no you're doing this for sympathy to make me look cold like i don't care you've said presumably off camera like you don't give a shit that i'm the mother of your child like i i need to know this information because like i could be getting played no i'm so team Michelle like I'm sorry I just was she like it's just it's just so basic like she's hard to root for yeah because like she's not like incredibly sassy and strong and like um but she's a good mom all she cares about is her daughter she just wants like love and peace in her life and which can't she just have that and like why can't and then you can go have the life that you want the Jackson Brittany stuff is so crazy um I guess it's not so crazy now because a couple of weeks ago, Jack shared that he was struggling with a cocaine addiction.

59:00But like the fact that she ripped the bandaid off and set it on camera, I imagine is the impetus behind a lot of what he's sharing now because it's out there. And when he was like, well, you've never done it. She's like, I have, but give me a drug test I could pass right now. Could you? And then he just like silently walked back upstairs. It's like, Brittany, I actually, I've always liked Brittany. I have enormous respect for her now. A, just like seeing what she's been dealing with over the last couple of years. but be how she's really very protective of her son like 100 do not kiss my son on the face 100 at first when she was like don't kiss him on the face i'm like yeah you don't deserve to kiss my face you stink and then when she was like because you had a disgusting girl here last night and you probably have that photo that's the photo they used of the girl like he do not kiss how did they show that on tv of all the photos they used to show like we need to understand who this person is no i fully understood and then i said dirty thong on the count like she's out of control Disgusting.

59:55Disgusting. And I guess the agreement is that, you know, Jax took the marital home, which is fucking crazy. The least you could do, that's still Brittany's house. Brittany pays for it. Brittany sleeps in that bed. She shouldn't pay for it. Of course not. But the agreement is that they can see other people just not in the marital home, which I think is really fair. And that's what got Brittany so revved up is now it's two girls having come back to the house. And that's why there was a playing card over the camera. Right. But then what Jax would say to that, which is that we had a set of rules. No one in the home.

1:00:26No dating people that we know. Britney broke that rule. So I break this rule. Oh, was the rule dating people we know? I didn't hear him say that. Yeah. Okay. The way I don't give a flying fuck that Britney dated Julian. Like, I'm so glad she had someone. And I do feel like she, you can see she's not in love with Jax anymore. Like, this isn't hard for her because she loves him. It's hard for her because she's stuck with him. She's stuck with him and he's a torturer. And she's responsible for him. Because he really has nobody. And she cares about him. But not in a way like that I think is romantic even remotely.

1:00:58No, just in a way that it's like I need you to be a functioning human being so that our son can have a functioning human being as a father. And I just want to say he didn't see his kid for so long. He walks into the house. And Cruz literally does not walk towards him and starts crying. Like that's not a good sign. No, no, no. That was a really bad look for him. And very telling. A thousand percent. He's fucking crazy. Yeah. and I you can tell he doesn't want to go to the 30-day treatment because he doesn't want to miss filming because that's all he cares about because he's not even he was talking a lot about 30 days 30 days I'm like what's such a big deal 30 days for your whole life work at Jax's which I'm sure the show that could go on without him it's about the fact that this is happening during filming and he doesn't want to miss 30 days of being on the show and he's only going to a facility to check a box to say I went I changed yeah I did and we've seen that before from him so like this instance is not the one this is actually probably not the rock bottom for him because also he's been sober now he said a few weeks ago 80 days 83 that's not last starting last summer that would be got it okay so this is fake this is a fake one you could do you think he stays the whole time no i don't i feel like if he did stay the 30 days even if he came in with the wrong intentions it would be effective for him yeah so and that's what the guy on the phone was saying because he was making it seem like it was about money but that guy on the phone was just wanting a check like Like he did not care about a person's well-being.

1:02:20So I felt like that wasn't a real recording of what the guy on the other end of the phone was saying. It was like dubbed with like AI generated phone conversation. Because who talks like that? He's like give us some money and do whatever you want. Yeah. It wasn't like a caring mental health person. Two 15 day stays will not be the same as one 30 day stay. I'm like why? Well because probably the magic happens on day 16. And if you leave then you have to start all over again. No but you know what I mean? Like you have to be in. It doesn't all happen on day one. It takes time. and if you lose that time.

1:02:49But I thought, yeah, I don't know where he's going. And like the thing is, I feel like when you're, everyone's telling you need to go somewhere and you're doing it to check a box, like I feel like you shouldn't get to choose where you go. Agreed, agreed. Especially because he's saying it's like a mental health place. Like you need a rehab. Yeah. One thing, my real takeaway from this episode was how much I really respect Brittany because I'm also, I know everybody like doesn't agree with me and I don't know the real context or history, but I know people don't like Janet. it all i know so far like there's nothing that i dislike about her and i'm 100 on her team about the whole miscarriage that comment and the fact that britney like refuses to ride for her best friend literally this is her best friend right they're from kentucky together right refuses to like ride for him i'm actually i really respect like as a woman and as a mom like what you said was so fucked up like no bitch you're literally on your own i'll be your friend still like we could talk and giggle about your boyfriend um but yeah there's gonna be a distance between us because you said something so fucking crazy.

1:03:45Like, normalize holding your friend's feet to the fire and telling them that they're nuts. Yeah, I totally agree. I know every, like, half the group, like, hates Janet. They say, like, she's crazier than Kristen. She's a shit starter. I haven't seen it yet. Like, I just haven't seen, and even Kristen last night on Watch What Happens Live, like, they're just talking so, I mean, if she does come for Nia, like, Nia is a pee jow. Protected class. So I will be interested to see what that's about. But, yeah, so far it's just not landing for me like Janet seems fine and anything she's a little boring but like but like last season she was pregnant and so if anything she did wasn't perfect like you do get a pregnancy she gets a pass Kristen Doty is about to get one as well um but yeah it's just like not landing for me the the hatred of her and like how she's this crazy manipulator like who the fuck is they say she's more manipulative than Jax who has she manipulated into anything I mean that's insane to say yeah and And so they said that to Brittany.

1:04:40And that's offensive. I'm sorry. That's offensive to Brittany. Agreed. And I just was genuinely curious at the amount of time they made us watch and learn about Zach's relationship. Okay. Thank you for. With a married man who lives in Canada. Thank you for discussing this. Because. That FaceTime conversation was top five weirdest human communications I've ever seen in my life. The monster energy refrigerator in his apartment. Oh, yeah. In his kitchen. That whole scene, this whole storyline was so bizarre. Do you know this guy? Like, did he film last season? No. No. Like, we didn't get any Dia.

1:05:16Mia and Danny. He starts crying, I'm going through a breakup. He's being deported and he's married. And when he said he was married, I was like, what are we talking about here? And then, like, the guy calls Zach and, like, Zach starts word vomiting, being like, I want to be with you. I want to make it. He found his green card. He's here to stay. He's like, Benji hasn't said anything. Like, Benji doesn't want to. not only is he deported and married, he also doesn't sound like he's like really in this relationship. But also like who is Benji in this world? Like who is Benji? When he started talking about Benji before they showed their pictures and like explain their history, I'm like Benji?

1:05:56I thought for sure I missed it in the last season. No, like that should have been left on the cutting room floor. And that was a lot of time. Like he had his own solo scene and then we're hearing about it with Brittany. I'm like the whole second half of the episode was about this guy I'm like how did we get here and then Nia was I went to her Instagram last night to catch up on her day in the city and they all went out to dinner in the city Nia and Kristen and Tom Schwartz was there and Zach and Benji oh okay well at least they're together at least it wasn't for nothing like I don't think they're like now they're together I think it's like still like drama and the threat of deport Like maybe he's just on vacation.

1:06:34The threat of deportation to Canada. Like this is so unserious. Like I seriously have no idea what's going on. No, that was just out of left field. And like, I'm sorry, there's a lot going on. I'm glad I read the situation correctly. Jesse and Michelle, Kristen B. Janet. Like we don't need to hear about Benji today. Not today. Okay, I'm so glad I was right about that. I was so confused. It was so odd. Okay, that's funny. Well, that's our show. That's the Valley Recap. Tomorrow we have Summer Hills. Also, Paige is on Watched Happens Live for the first time. For the first time? For the first time in over a year.

1:07:15Oh, for the first time this season. This season, yes. I saw someone on TikTok say that she hasn't been on since February 2024. So don't ask me how I know that. So last season she went on. Yeah, this is like her first appearance this season. And first appearance post-breakup. That's why it's remarkable. I was thinking, I saw she's going to be on tonight. and I was like, this is going to be like juicy probably because Andy's going to just ask her everything, especially in light of the Southern Charm reunion. They haven't filmed the Summer House reunion. Andy's asking his questions. Hopefully he's in a good mood.

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