The Decade of No: Wednesday, July 8th, 2026

7:59Claudia Oshry:Unless you want, no, but yeah, so you can hear about what happens to me today, tomorrow, unless you want to join me which is always fun we did drive separately here so we have two cars we have two cars we don't have to do the same things i was actually gonna do like a couple things oh my god what else couple things couple things i don't know i feel like shopping i don't have enough

8:15Jackie Oshry:clothes here oh okay i feel that we're gonna go the max no i was gonna go like there's a information oh yeah i'm just not gonna place physically mentally or spiritually to shop for clothes in person i placed a huge tucker knock order and that changed the game but shopping irl well the mental fortitude required is not something I'm just not in that face I guess I could but everything I've ordered out here like hasn't come the thing about ordering online is like it's such a good idea because like oh yeah let me sit on the couch instead of going but it just never it never comes like you when it comes I'm like who ordered this you get genuinely delirious when you're shopping online like you forget who you are you forget what you look like you forget what

8:55Claudia Oshry:your style is you forget it's like then you have to open up the box like but it's like seriously

8:59Jackie Oshry:who ordered this I would never ever wear that something about it being online like you get

9:04Claudia Oshry:delusional when I'm in store I'm like oh I should just order online I'm like tired I'm ordering online I'm like I gotta see these things in store that's why I just prefer like not wearing clothes

9:14Jackie Oshry:oh you know I started I saw this tiktok account today I know you don't have tiktok but you would love it she it's called like old gossip where she talks about like things that happened in like the founding father's day she's talking about like you know back in the day people really used to smell of course and bathing regularly was not a thing if you were really rich you had like a basin of water that you would like maybe weekly rinse yourself with but Benjamin Franklin actually you're gonna love this so people used to think that like the air was dirty and so like you wouldn't want the air to touch your skin they think that the oils on your skin would help you protect from the dirty air but Benjamin Franklin was like you know what I actually think the air could clean us instead of hurt us so his way of bathing was like he would wake up every morning and like stand in the nude with the windows open for like 30 to 60 minutes and that's how he would get clean and then one time him and John Adams John Adams wrote about this I know you're reading a book on Abigail Adams I am so John Adams tell me about my boy was on a trip with Benjamin

10:03Claudia Oshry:Franklin to France to negotiate them peace with Britain no to negotiate France joining

10:10Jackie Oshry:the Patriots they were on a little road trip within the states to go to go chat with someone about ending the American Revolution oh I haven't gotten to that part of the book yet so they get to the inn it's like literally a smut novel there's only one room and they have to share a bed and so john adams subscribes to like the whole notion of the air being toxic whereas benjamin franklin's like no no we gotta air it out we gotta clean ourselves and it was like this whole like drama that he wrote about in his book and i just thought you'd find that interesting they had to burp the

10:36Claudia Oshry:house i love burping the house i love fresh air we should burp our house isn't it crazy people

10:40Jackie Oshry:used to be afraid of air yeah and they used to be afraid of tubs like she was saying that like the woman who like first took a bath like one time she like wrote about it and now it's in like a museum what she wrote she was like it was very very scary to have your whole body immersed in water oh wow

10:51Claudia Oshry:the craziest thing about tubs back in the day like you know this the the saying like don't throw the baby out with the bath water do you know where that comes from no so when people used to take their yearly bath yearly families and i guess it depended on like you know income status but like for most families they would take a bath once a year they would fill up the tub with clean water and they would bathe in order of birth oldest to youngest men first and then women and children with the same water last with the same water so by the time the baby went in the water it was black so from a year's worth of dirt for the whole family so then they would say don't throw the baby out with the bath water and it was a baby lost in the sauce was water like hard to come by like why couldn't they refill the tub once a year it must have been yeah and you know that's

11:40Jackie Oshry:an opportunity for me to talk about the origin of my favorite phrase the shit end of the stick okay so back in the days of like outhouses not toilet paper there would be like a basically there's a loofah on a stick and in order to use it you would have to like put it back in the holder with like the loofah part at the bottom like a plunger yeah and the stick part up but like some people would put it in upside down and you would grab the wrong the shit end of the stick yeah fun fact yuck i love little facts like that and like yeah and so they're all sharing

12:11Claudia Oshry:a piece of toilet paper a piece of duty yeah basically and then like wonder why they got sick correct i mean it takes time to sort these things out a thousand percent i think a lot of

12:19Jackie Oshry:things now that will turn out to be wildly untrue one day i'm like genuinely constantly grateful i was not born in an era and i'm sure things were better about that era than they're this one and we're not perfect by any means the pollution the toxicity of course but let me tell you like the The age of air conditioning, the age of daily, sometimes multiple times a day, baths. Baths for everyone, no matter your income. Shower. Like I love, I love Uber Eats. Like all of the comforts of modern life, I very much enjoy. I saw your stand up. Yeah, except even though now that I think about it, if I could choose any era, I would want like the modern era, but really before cell phones.

12:55Jackie Oshry:90s. Yeah, 80s, 90s.

12:56Claudia Oshry:I think everyone agrees, like the 90s. I think people like parents are trying to stimulate like a 90s childhood. Childhood for their kids. And as someone who had one, no notes.

13:05Jackie Oshry:No notes. Yeah, like whenever I watch movies that are set and like there are adults living, like having, like going to the clubs in like the 80s and the 90s, I'm like, that looks fun.

13:12Claudia Oshry:Yeah. That's the vibe. I'm so Jonathan Haidt. Like you still have a phone. You can cancel plans last minute.

13:18Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

13:18Claudia Oshry:Because like imagine back in the day you made a plan, like be a courier and you have to show up.

13:23Jackie Oshry:Yeah, but I think back in the day there wasn't a lot going on. So like the plans, like you were actually lit for.

13:27Claudia Oshry:You're still you. You're still you back in the day. Yeah.

13:32Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

13:36Claudia Oshry:That's your history, your herstory lesson. The stories are? Good, good. Lots of like little things to touch on. I'm feeling good about it. Definitely like more hopeful than yesterday. Okay, that's good. But it's definitely still, you know, the summer slump and the TNT hangover.

13:51Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it's more so like a list of people who were invited and didn't go.

13:54Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

13:55Jackie Oshry:I just saw this morning when I was scrolling James Taylor. Your boy? Ben's boy. He was invited but couldn't go.

14:01Claudia Oshry:And I'm also seeing like a couple brave souls are speaking out about how they weren't invited and they're like confused and pissed. That guy with the bus. Bussing with the boys. Yeah. And also someone who works of an NFL retiree who does a lot with TEU and like works with Travis. And like I'm sure they like actually forgot a couple people. Yes. And it's like it's brave to say it.

14:24Jackie Oshry:Yeah. The thing is with the busing guy, I definitely thought like him and Travis were friends. Travis went on his bus. But like he does seem, because he's on Barstool Radio talking about it, like kind of feels like a big mouth. Yeah. And that's like the type of energy like they were not looking for.

14:38Claudia Oshry:I don't know. 1 ,500 people? Like that's just collectively one big mouth.

14:42Jackie Oshry:But he is technically a member of the press. But everyone kept their mouth shut. So like.

14:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And plenty of members of it. GMAs were there. And they went on the show the next day. I mean, of course you're going to forget people. I just think it's like really crazy. Because like now for sure you're done. Like if you're complaining about that you weren't invited. Well then to go public with the complaints. I wouldn't do it. Charles Barkley said that he was invited but didn't attend.

15:03Jackie Oshry:He doesn't like to go to weddings and like get dressed up. He'd rather just stay home and golf.

15:07Claudia Oshry:That's what he said.

15:08Jackie Oshry:He doesn't go to weddings or funerals he said. Okay. It's kind of rude.

15:12Claudia Oshry:Okay. I mean know thyself.

15:14Jackie Oshry:I don't like going to weddings and I don't go to most of the ones. No. I don't go to most of the ones that I'm invited to. I talk about this a lot. Like people just invite me places because like Ben is really friendly with a lot of people. And then obviously like I have to go with Ben. but then also if people like loosely know me they invite me to their weddings because I'm like really fun and I'm like a very low-level celebrity so it's like you know it's fun I had a celebrity at my wedding it's fun and exciting um but most of the time I don't go because it's like a long affair and I find that like weddings are really not fun unless you know the couple very deeply because if I'm at a wedding like I want to be involved like yeah am I sitting in the front like am I important to this affair am I related like if I'm just like a rando like seriously I'd

15:53Claudia Oshry:rather stay home i disagree completely you're allowed i think weddings are so fun they're obviously so fun and special when you're close with the couple but they're also fun when you're not super close like i don't want to be responsible for the joie de vivre i just want to like enjoy it i love dancing to wedding music i love dancing that's like but you know how much it takes to

16:12Jackie Oshry:get to the dancing part yeah all day getting ready cocktail hour ceremony if it's a juju a a decade like it's hours before i'm actually full of food food sometimes pretty good it's usually good food i'm literally you are a picky eater when i go to a wedding i'm dead ass like a contestant on four weddings i'm giving a score for the decor for the dress for the food and i'm like constantly complaining about everything like those miserable brides on the show i always show up hungry and i'm like where's the food at i love the cocktail hour like i find that the hors d 'oeuvres yeah when i'm like waiting for my food to be brought to me at like a sit down wedding first of all I never get the food in like the time that I needed to and you can't really pick it's just like pre-plated I do love a cocktail hour I love a buffet like we were saying earlier in the week um so yeah I just like I don't love weddings unless like I love the people yeah yeah I can find joy in all sorts of

17:04Claudia Oshry:kinds of weddings as very beautiful music is good and hot take I really don't like funerals

17:10Jackie Oshry:have you been to so many I know it's like very hot I know it's a really really hot take I don't think it is. I don't think anybody wants to go to a funeral. I've been to with my fair share. They're just like very upsetting.

17:20Claudia Oshry:They're very upsetting.

17:21Jackie Oshry:Yeah, they're sad.

17:22Claudia Oshry:They're very sad. Did you find? Yeah.

17:24Jackie Oshry:So, call me crazy. Which is why you have to go to weddings.

17:26Claudia Oshry:Call me crazy. To balance it out. Well, I guess that's why Charles Barkley doesn't go to either. Well, I guess that's fair because it's like not fair to only go to weddings and say, I have a no funerals rule. Right. That's not life. You have to take the good with the bad. And the bad.

17:37Jackie Oshry:Absolutely. And then, of course, don't only go to funerals. That would be bad. which kind of feels like what I do. So you need to go to more weddings. Yeah, yeah. Or you just need to stop leaving my house. That's like really what I – So you should have a backyard wedding. No, it's not time for like New Year's resolutions, but I'm sure in like the Chinese New Year or the Jewish calendar, it's coming up.

17:55Claudia Oshry:So it's no longer the year of yes for you?

17:57Jackie Oshry:It has not been the year of yes for like three years. But you loved your year of yes. I wouldn't be the girl I am today without my year of yes. Absolutely. And there was a time and a place for that. I feel like I'm in my decade of no. and like knowing that is powerful like feeling comfortable like saying no to stuff like literally ben was texting this morning like people making plans like without my authorization and i'm like it's so funny that he thinks i'm going to any of this and like no literally ben's really gonna hate

18:23Claudia Oshry:to hear this that it's the decade of no yeah because for ben it's a lifetime of yes yeah it's the centennial of yes yeah and he shouldn't have you shouldn't have gone to that party on

18:31Jackie Oshry:saturday night because like it was curative for me like i went to a party and i am truly set for a decade yeah yeah and for ben just gave him like a taste of what what we're not doing he thought

18:39Claudia Oshry:it was like more oh we're getting started that is like where we are most different in life like as

18:44Jackie Oshry:we grew up like ben maybe even more so became even more social and for me i'm like actually a hermit who lives in the ground and every time i go somewhere i really regret it that's sort of

18:56Claudia Oshry:like what ben and i are working on in therapy yeah if you must know well maybe we'll have some like fun fun outings this summer like maybe or like we could have fun in the house we're always having fun in the house so that's not a maybe that's a for certain that's why it's so important

19:09Jackie Oshry:to have child on by you have to love your home and you have to job your love of course i have

19:13Claudia Oshry:like a couple things but i'm very selective so that when i do leave the chances i'm gonna regret it are slim yeah so selection so decade of no okay i'll tell ben oh yeah i can't so somebody

19:28Jackie Oshry:please clip it for ben justice for ben are you ready i didn't say justice for what did you say i said clip it for ben clip it for ben yeah that's a good way to tell a message like you have a hard truth you want to share share it in a podcast clip he probably wouldn't watch it

19:44Claudia Oshry:are you ready for the you probably wouldn't no he wouldn't are you ready for the fast night

19:48Jackie Oshry:stories you're like laying in bed with your partner and you like see them like they're scrolling and you hear like your own voice or video and they scroll right and i'm i'm locking

19:56Claudia Oshry:and I'm like, what are you going to do with that?

19:58Jackie Oshry:It's like, I know you don't watch the whole show. You can't even watch the clips. What are you going to do with that? They're like my stories. I know when people like tell us, and you don't have to listen to my podcast. Of course, it's five days a week. But I know Taylor Schrecker, and I literally love her so much. She always maintains that she watches the toast. And anytime we're talking about it, she just like references the clips. I'm like, so you watch the clips. Like that's totally fine.

20:14Claudia Oshry:But Ben can't even watch the clips. I feel like there are people who consider themselves toasters or like for other podcasts, like fans of that show, if they consume the clips. Like would you consider someone like a fan of the toast if they watch all of our clips but they don't listen to the podcast it's a different level but it is a a version of toaster in order to i would never i would never

20:32Jackie Oshry:knock anyone for engaging with me in any way don't forget to like comment and subscribe of course but if i had my druthers if i'm being like nitpicky no you're not a toaster our lore goes so

20:40Claudia Oshry:deep no but like sometimes i'll see like clips from a show and i'll be like oh i like that show yeah i don't listen to it but like if it comes up in conversation i'll be like that's a good show i

20:47Jackie Oshry:like it that's kind of how i feel about gray's anatomy like i've never watched the episode but And I see the vertical videos all the time.

20:52Claudia Oshry:You guys, the amount of movies I'm watching on Instagram is getting. I can't wait to see if Sally Field makes it back from Afghanistan. It's getting to a fever pitch. Yeah, I know. I'm watching one about this girl who was trapped in the basement by her father. Oh, I've seen that one. Where she was going to run away. And the night before she ran away, he holds her captive in the basement of their home. And then everyone gets to the hospital. Everyone thinks she ran away. And I just saw how she got to the hospital.

21:13Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I've seen that one. Disturbing. I love movies like that. I know. Like, not about kidnapping.

21:19Claudia Oshry:I have to actively like not watch them so I don't get served them. Yeah. Because I'm losing like hours of my life. It's like I wake up in the morning and I watch a movie. Yeah. Actually, I woke up this morning and you know what I got to see before I even rushed my teeth? The sunrise? No, on my phone. What? Colorized photos of the Romanovs.

21:39Jackie Oshry:Oh, I like AI-generated history content. That shit is cool.

21:42Claudia Oshry:It was actually amazing photos. I told you about how I learned about the bath. The Russian imperial family. and what's so crazy is the Tsar of Russia and the King George of England at the time they were cousins because they're both grandchildren of Queen Victoria and they look so much alike. Spooky. Yeah. But then like he couldn't have them come and they got killed. Spoiler alert. So sad.

22:05Jackie Oshry:No, I've seen The Crown. Like that one episode where they talk about it. Yeah, and they wouldn't let them come. So I know. Terrible. Terrible.

22:12Claudia Oshry:Well, I think we've PFFPed a little. And then you also saw the episode where they dug up the bones. Of course.

22:17Jackie Oshry:Of course I had to see the episode.

22:18Claudia Oshry:So I guess that's the same episode because they flash back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like one dedicated Russian episode of The Crown. It's very good. Yeah. It's a very good episode. All right.

22:28Jackie Oshry:Okay.

22:28Claudia Oshry:I think we've. I don't know. You were the one.

22:31Jackie Oshry:I just feel like once we get to the Romanoffs, like it's a good time to dive in. That's what I think we're just getting started.

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28:24Claudia Oshry:resortpass the day is yours thank you turt pass you're welcome our first story just feels like i need to mention it people are speculating that margaret qualley i want to talk about this have broken up so there's a lot of proof yeah so she wasn't at the wedding which people just thought meant to be that like Margaret and Taylor aren't tight and that she chose like whatever work obligation that she had but now she's deleted I haven't seen this for my own two eyes true I don't know what photos she had that are no longer there didn't have a lot she doesn't use Instagram a lot

28:53Jackie Oshry:so apparently she had two right they have been deleted and a little while ago she changed her Instagram username she had like this funky username that was a reference to one of his songs and then like a couple of weeks ago she just changed it um now in hindsight like it looks like she is cleansing him from her life he brought his sister as his date to Taylor's wedding and And then yesterday he was spotted out again with his sister. And it's like, you had a sister this whole time? Like, I feel like you only hang out with your sister when you're getting divorced.

29:16Claudia Oshry:Perhaps. Or your wife is away filming a project.

29:19Jackie Oshry:I just want to say, like, I'm giddy about this. Really? One thing about me, I love, love Margaret Qualey. I think she's like arguably the most beautiful girl in Hollywood right now. And also a fun fact about me, I fucking hate Jack Antonoff. Like, he just gives me the worst vibes. And it's crazy because he's like always with my swirlies. he's a Sabrina producer he's with Taylor I don't know why I just like hate him it all goes back to that Lena Dunham article if I'm being 100 % honest like she was guilty for that too but it's like you let your girlfriend talk about you like that so also to say I hate him I hate him the fact that they were together really never made sense to me like sorry things are just not adding up like I know you're successful and of course as a successful man like you always are

29:58Claudia Oshry:you're entitled to a beautiful you're entitled to a beautiful woman okay yes Andrew Tate

30:02Jackie Oshry:thank you thank you but like she's a successful woman so it's like i don't know why she was slamming it with him like i just never understood them together and i'm like if this is true i'm so fucking hype like i hated them together funny

30:18Claudia Oshry:i thought they made so much sense why they just like i'm sorry andy mcdowell like she has to fit like how they just like they look alike they're artsy they're successful they're young she's like

30:31Jackie Oshry:glamour hollywood and he's like very bushwick i'm sorry like their aesthetics don't match she's so glamorous nepo hollywood queen who like out nepoed her mother i'm sorry margaret quiley is an icon and she will go down as like our generations like anne hathaway like she's gonna be and she's a him no i don't think so i'm sorry it just it didn't it just didn't make sense and they got married very recently too it's just such a big deal to get married she wasn't like that famous like she was she was just like an actress she is recently i think what was you saying the substance that was like a lot of oscar hype in the last like two years but i feel like when they first started dating and they got married like she didn't know yet that she was going to be so big

31:11Claudia Oshry:so yeah she like oh she accepted what she thought she could get that's not how i see it and so because i see it the way that i do which is like marriage pretty much like of equals who are doing big things career wise something crazy happened oh really it's not like she woke up one day and

31:25Jackie Oshry:was like i can do better well he is like a notorious philanderer the nerve like imagine being a flanderer. Len nerve. Yeah, you know, he stepped out on, I think, Lena Dunham with Lorde. There's like a lot of drama. Yeah, I'm sorry. Like Lena Dunham stays winning. Someone, I just saw the funniest tweet. It's like, Margaret Quayley and Jack Antonoff getting divorced. Like all these things happen. Like, oh, Adam Driver's like in hiding. Like, and it's like Lena Dunham slays. Like, it's like her power. She's so powerful. Today. Yeah. I, she had to go away. Like I said, the power of going away. I'm ready for Jack Antonoff to go away.

32:01Jackie Oshry:I just like I keep my foot on his neck. I really don't like him. And I have my reasons. You're entitled to them. You are. That's the word you were looking for. Entitled. I love this. I hope it's true. Fingers crossed.

32:17Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But then like no more Taylor Margaret friendship.

32:20Jackie Oshry:No, I think that they could still be friends. Taylor like is friends with Sophie Turner and Joe. Lena Dunham. But she's not friends with Lorde. But separate.

32:30Claudia Oshry:But like she was friends with Lena Dunham. even when her best friend was Jack Antonoff and he was married to someone else.

32:34Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it's true. No, no. I think she'll keep, if her and Margaret were ever really that close.

32:37Claudia Oshry:I don't think that they were. I don't think so either.

32:39Jackie Oshry:She was really much just like her co-worker's wife.

32:43Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah.

32:45Jackie Oshry:I hope this is true.

32:46Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our next story, which is just such exciting news? More exciting than Jack Antonoff and Margaret really getting divorced? Yes, for me. Probably equivalent for me. For you? Okay, what happened with the Romanovs? Dweem team, Molly Mae, Alex Earl, and Stassi Baby. were spotted together at Wimbledon. They took a photo that was sent to me 1 ,000 times. Very, very exciting.

33:09Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I didn't realize Wimbledon was happening, so thank you to Alex Earle for letting us know. She got a lot of hate for her outfit. I saw a tweet. I'm sorry, this is British. This is just, look at, I thought her and Molly Mae were on the same level of attire. Yeah, yeah.

33:26Claudia Oshry:And they seem to be like in a, oh, I guess they're all en suites. This is the Evian suite. No, I think she looks great. Wimbledon is just like so elegant it is and it's like you could really have fun with the fashion there are so many like what did Paige Renz wear was she there no she was in her backyard yesterday

33:42Jackie Oshry:I feel like now would be a good time to bring up the fact that Morgues blocked us we don't know her and we talked about her like twice just saying like now that her and the guy broke up like obviously the wag wars are over because like she stepped out she blocked me my fake personal account that I never use she blocked Jackie and she blocked the toast what did we say was it something we said like I didn't even have like a I don't even dislike her now I do but yeah somebody sent me something I'm like I'm blocked whose account is this yeah they're like morgues so you went to your other account and then you send it to me and none of us and I was like what in the world yeah I didn't know like people actually blocked no I block like haters I guess like she thought maybe we were being haters that we were like yeah I would block someone who I didn't want to see my page they could form a negative opinion but i just want to say factually what we said was that like she lost the wag wars just by default like she left the building that's all we said yeah but

34:35Claudia Oshry:we don't even know when she blocked us like it could have been years ago it's true i know but i think like i think it i think that it was recent i think it was like right after we spoke about it

34:46Jackie Oshry:but because we covered that they broke up or we covered that he was dating olivia jade and how much we loved it maybe she hated that and we said they were like the best couple ever and like maybe maybe so crazy to be blocked are you blocked by anyone else I'm sure like notoriously blocked

35:09I was blocked for a while

35:10Jackie Oshry:by fuck Jerry of course but we worked things out yeah we did work things out

35:13Claudia Oshry:I think I still am but like I actually

35:15Jackie Oshry:I did DM him I forgot to be like can you hit the unblock I texted him I'm like can you unblock please now that we're cool and he did swiftly so yeah yeah I may still be blocked Who else? But that was really it. It's hard to know who you're blocked by. No. Because that's the whole point. Yeah. So you're blocked.

35:31Claudia Oshry:But no, I think my side of the street is clean. I keep my side of the street clean. I haven't blocked someone in forever.

35:40Jackie Oshry:Morgz wouldn't know what that means. Was she at? Oh, I guess I wouldn't know if she was at Wimbledon. I don't think she was at Wimbledon. But I did see she's getting her ass handed to her for this thing she said on a podcast. about how like she it was kind of like a nutty like very self-centered take about how like tennis um like used to be marketed towards men talking about like stats and facts and now tennis is like marketed towards women where we're like talking about the fashion it was just like calling women dumb like women can't be into like stats we have to be into fashion i saw that clip yeah i saw like a bunch of like think pieces on tiktok i can't lie i didn't watch them because i personally

36:12Claudia Oshry:don't care right like was that the backlash is that like it's reductive for women in order for

36:17Jackie Oshry:women to be involved like it has to be at the bath of fashion yeah like no women can be in sports right right there's like a sport for that well molly i'm so happy for her she just had the baby

36:32Claudia Oshry:she looks like so amazing she seems to be doing so well it's not her decade of no no and also she had a hard time postpartum with bambi like she it was like she's very new and like she felt very alone and she like really struggled so i think she's really able to like enjoy this season And now being like an expert in motherhood.

36:47Jackie Oshry:I do think about that. Like I'm so late to have another baby. Let me tell you I'm going to crush that shit. Meanwhile, I actually am going to get like crazy postpartum depression. But like I just feel like so equipped now. Like I know all the products. You can get excited. Like you're not scared. I'm not scared. I know the products. I know exactly what to have. I know what I need. I know what I don't need. And like I'm lit. Like let's do it. Yeah. In due time.

37:04Claudia Oshry:Yeah. So I'm really happy for her. Me too. It seems to be going well.

37:08Jackie Oshry:Yeah. She looks great.

37:10Claudia Oshry:And Sassy Baby too. Which um.

37:11Jackie Oshry:New friend.

37:12Claudia Oshry:friendship would have loved to see like kylie out there shaking that thing i do think that like a kylie alex earl hangout is definitely imminent and molly may sure why not she molly may is just like very much a british ambassador yeah she is but she gets down of course did she ever come to like the states i she did one time on her youtube i saw like she hated it she went to new york overwhelming yeah but she has to come meet us i think she would love us everybody loves us you're not seeing double you're seeing trouble um so yeah Wimbledon's going down I never got to

37:46Jackie Oshry:recap the Real Housewives of Rhode Island reunion and I'm not going to but I just wanted to say it was fantastic um oh we didn't even talk about you know Liz isn't coming back I I do know and everyone collectively had like a weird response to it because like it is very suspicious I guess she has like some like people think she's like investigated by the FBI like Teresa stuff um I just think like she's the queen of Rhode Island in real life she came on the show and honestly she looked so bad I think if she returned for a second season her whole role of being like queen mother and everybody respecting her it's not the case anymore like randoms like Alicia have the fans behind their back and Joellen like Rosie what who's Alicia cracker cracker okay your favorite I just don't think of her as an Alicia what do you think of her as I don't know it's 2.0 she looks just like his cracker I think that like she just didn't like she didn't bad first season and I think it was just gonna get worse because people were like just starting to get on to her

38:35Claudia Oshry:I don't think it would have gotten worse. I think it was a little bit of a premature resignation. Because I think like she.

38:42Jackie Oshry:Or like the Dino stuff. I guess like her husband. When she talks about her husband. Well then she had to go. Getting into like international fishing. People think it's like a. Drug running. Yeah. Code for something like. What six year old man picks up and leaves for a new hobby.

38:54Claudia Oshry:And he like wins prize money. With Dino. Like it's just weird. Like. Yeah. Okay. If that's the case. Then yeah. But she has some stuff to hide. Don't be on TV. But I think if it's just a matter of like. It didn't go well for her. And she doesn't want to do it again. I think it would get better for her because I do think like she has so much lore. She's very like tough and like gritty strong willed. And I think, you know, she could have a redemptive season. I think it actually could only get better for her.

39:18Jackie Oshry:No, I think that she coasted through this season on a lot of the goodwill from just being like top dog in town. But that over the course of the season and then how the season played out with the fans, like you might be top dog. But in this town, we don't give a fuck. Like I suck.

39:29Claudia Oshry:I think eventually, like, for the reasons why she's Top Dog in that town, like, eventually she would be Top Dog on the show.

39:36Jackie Oshry:Maybe, but I don't think it would be second season. It was so good. Like, I'm telling you, they picked this, like, ragtag group of women with insane lore, old school friendships. I loved it. I can't wait for season two. And I'm so glad. I deviated briefly, but Team Rosie. Like, she's such a fucking queen. She handled the whole thing, like, insane. I love her.

39:55Claudia Oshry:Okay. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Number three. Yeah. New guest sharks on Shark Tank have been announced for this season. Mr. Beast. Oh, you're kidding. Mindy Kaling. Oh, my queen. J.J. Watt. Okay, yeah, love. Diary of a CEO podcast host Stephen Bartlett.

40:16Jackie Oshry:Okay, that guy uses me like grifter vibes, but continue.

40:18Claudia Oshry:And Sarah and Erin Foster will be guest sharks on this season of Shark Tank, including Barbara Corker and Lori Grenier, Robert Herjavec, Damon John, Daniel Labetzky. Who's that one? Kind Bar. Kind Bar's picked.

40:32Jackie Oshry:Child of Holocaust Survivors. Yes, yes.

40:34Claudia Oshry:I just don't love Kind Bars.

40:37Jackie Oshry:Yeah, remember when they found out that they're just as fattening as the Snickers? Classic. I'm so glad I was eating Snickers, not Kind Bars.

40:41Claudia Oshry:Kevin O 'Leary, Kendra Scott, and Rashawn Williams. Kendra Scott is like a mainstay now? She'll be on one of the permanent sharks. She won't be every episode, but you know, this is a lot of sharks. Did Mark Cuban leave? Yeah, he did. I remember that. He's not listed here.

40:53Jackie Oshry:Now, I don't want to be ungrateful because I love all these people. I love the Fosters. I love that they have a podcaster in there, honestly, Stephen Bartlett.

40:59Claudia Oshry:Two, three, Sarah and Mr.

41:02Jackie Oshry:Beast podcaster?

41:03Claudia Oshry:No. Everyone's a podcaster.

41:04Jackie Oshry:I know, but Stephen Bartlett's the main thing. I just feel like I liked when they were introducing us to random business people, not celebrities, not to be a celebrity hater, because I literally built my life around celebrities. But for my guest sharks, it was nice every now and then. They threw a Bethany in there, but I like learning about, who's the vitamin water guy? I never would have heard of him.

41:24Claudia Oshry:No, but Bethany was a perfect guest shark. A celebrity who's done huge business. Now, all of these people have big businesses, but I don't think of them as iconic business people. Bethany is an iconic businesswoman at this point. Mr. Beast is very wealthy. Yes. And is he good with money?

41:43Jackie Oshry:He has, of course, his Beast candies.

41:45Claudia Oshry:Yeah, he has the Beast games. I think he is. I think he's got business sense.

41:50Jackie Oshry:But I don't think of him as a business person at all. I think of him as an online personality.

41:53Claudia Oshry:Right, but if they're having digital brands come through. Like I actually think for that.

41:57Jackie Oshry:I'm sure like he got good deals. But I think Mr.

42:00Claudia Oshry:Beast is a good one.

42:01Jackie Oshry:I just liked when the guest sharks were like introducing me to CEOs, investors whom I never heard of. Like it's just nice to meet new people every now and then. For sure. Mindy Kaling. Like I love her. What is she doing on Shark Tank? Like you guys know she's like one of my role models. I love her. But like okay. J.J. Watt. Like I know he invests. He invests. I don't know. He's always doing stuff. He does charity. Love that.

42:24Claudia Oshry:And I think that in order to be a guest shark, you have to have a net worth. Of$100 million. I was going to say$300. $300 is the new$100.

42:33Jackie Oshry:For a guest shark,$100. Very poor, yeah.

42:37Claudia Oshry:Well, then all these people probably qualify.

42:40Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I just.

42:41Claudia Oshry:And Diary of a CEO, where's he making coins in the podcast space? I just, like, I don't know. I'm uninspired. I knew all those people. And Sarah and Erin Foster. I love them. And they're probably coming on as, like, favorite daughter.

42:54Jackie Oshry:retail founders they also invest a lot in other companies because they're moneyed yes moneyed individuals but like i really would love to just meet new business people there are only so many ways like a business person can get famous and now the guest shark has been taken over by celebrities

43:09Claudia Oshry:and influencers you know who should be a guest shark let me think give me a clue um he was businessman of the week once oh nicole kidman's boyfriend yes paul salem oh by the way we could

43:21Jackie Oshry:We have a frame over there. We should do businessman of the week now. We should. I love that. Okay, you print. We'll have to get like a photo printer. For the house. I'm not going to TVS.

43:33Claudia Oshry:But you know what? I love Shark Tank. I'm sure I'll be watching these episodes because Zach doesn't miss an episode. Does he still not? We record. He watches it every weekend. It's such a good show.

43:41Jackie Oshry:It's such a good show.

43:42Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

43:43Jackie Oshry:It's actually crazy that Mark Cuban's not there anymore. I feel like that wasn't made a big enough deal. Yeah.

43:50Claudia Oshry:Well, I mean, all things come to an end. You know? Season 18.

43:55Jackie Oshry:Like, it's okay. When you are a billionaire, like, you go on TV for fun, not for money. So I guess maybe he stopped having fun.

44:00Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

44:05Jackie Oshry:Did he also sell the Dallas Mavericks? Did he? Yeah, that was weird. They were just talking about him. Well, before we go on to our next story, let me tell you that the rest of the show was brought to you by Starbucks Frappuccino. Starbucks Frappuccino drinks are a perfect, delicious blend of indulgence and coffee that puts your day on the right track. It's got a delicious and creamy flavor that's perfect for a sweet treat to start your day with. And start your day with a smile like this. Or like this. No teeth. Smile. Don't smile. The Frappuccino is a sweet moment of joy in an otherwise busy day.

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48:43Claudia Oshry:Next story, Mariska Hargitay will be hosting the Emmys. She's the first woman to emcee the show in 15 years. That's like so embarrassing.

48:51Jackie Oshry:I just want to say, I'm so sick of Hollywood elites like telling us about this and that. Walk the walk. they just talk the talk am i right that's really powerful i just want to say i don't like this only because okay she's pissed a woman hasn't hosted and she's not supporting well i just like i'm very protective over mariska and i just feel like this is such a thankless job everybody hates you like she's not gonna be telling like risky jokes she's not like an out there type of comic like so i just feel like if this goes poorly like marisha hargatay has like actually never known like scandal in her life or like you know not being she's always been beloved in the public eye and it's really hard for someone like that to go through like a so I think at a glance I think

49:37Claudia Oshry:Mariska has the potential to be like America's like a Kelly Clarkson I agree Meredith Vieira furniture line morning show clothing line everything she's so beloved I wouldn't be surprised if like she has a new management or a new strategy in place where it's like let's take Mariska to the next level. She's tested in this business for so many years, for decades.

49:58Jackie Oshry:All across America.

49:59Claudia Oshry:Everybody loves her in every category. And like, let's bring her into more households. Let's make, like she could be a billionaire, seriously. It's so true. So hosting the Emmys, you don't have to tell jokes. You don't have to like be shrewd. You just have to be likable. Like do it in a way that like Kelly does the Billboard and Music Awards. I think this could be like step one

50:16Jackie Oshry:to the Mariska revolution. Like the Rachel Ray pipeline, because Rachel Ray's a billionaire. You're absolutely right that she does not commercialize enough like she just and i i love her commitment to her job because she's never missed an episode you know she doesn't leave she doesn't go on hiatus but i do feel like that commitment hinders other opportunities like she definitely needs a way for a line she definitely needs a pet food like rachel ray slaps her fucking name on everything she sells pet food yeah she sells like ziploc containers mariska needs a little bit of that yeah and i think it's it's within reach

50:43Claudia Oshry:i think she's leaving a lot of money on the table because she has like a q score that you can't you

50:47Jackie Oshry:couldn't even dream of you she is you're right in the hall of fame of q scores with kelly clarkson who else kelly should be a guest shark does kelly have a business oh yeah of course multiple wayfair who else is in the hall of fame of q scores yeah like like oprah yes oprah and like in terms of putting your name on stuff and

51:07Claudia Oshry:having like a billion dollar business reese witherspoon yeah yeah so i think it's mariska's time and i love this a good first step she's a tv so if it doesn't work out she it's not so far

51:17Jackie Oshry:she works in tv she's hosting the umies big whoop right okay you know what the way you have if it is indeed a part of like a five-point plan yeah and then so say she does a good job oh she's

51:27Claudia Oshry:a good host let's tap marish gonna host this daytime show maybe she'll replace kelly yeah

51:31Jackie Oshry:did they ever say who was replacing kelly pink no that was like a rumor and we said she was like a

51:37Claudia Oshry:little too hot-headed yeah i don't know i like lost interest i guess yeah it's a hard role to

51:45Jackie Oshry:feel so marissa's on her way you have to admit like it feels a bit random it always feels random no because they pull from the same if it's like a stand-up or a late night host like that doesn't feel random like who hosts you know what like emmys are about like tv actors so yeah let's get like the biggest one that's my queen right there yeah the last time they had the emmys in 2022

52:07Claudia Oshry:keenan hosted oh yeah that was nbc so it's nbc so it's they're pulling of course from the dick wolf

52:14Jackie Oshry:productions and then in 2018 let's get iced tea and cocoa to host next in in 2018 um you agree did you see that bunny xo was making out with someone he's from calabasas confidential that

52:27Claudia Oshry:i saw that he was on the reality show and i didn't like click through i read the comment isn't that a bunch of like teenagers allegedly or they're home from college even worse damn okay are you ready for our fifth and final story oh so soon major news for namesake

52:46Jackie Oshry:what did Michaela Magara do the other one Levi from Summerhouse another Michaela no

52:57Claudia Oshry:male namesake let's marry Harry let's marry Harry first look at Harry Jousey's new Netflix reality show let's marry harry has dropped so harry jowzy is set to headline his own reality dating series at netflix which we had heard this that like let's marry harry was gonna happen it's a dating like a bachelor style show right about it's catching kelsey it's catching harry jowzy a thousand percent alternative title but it filmed it's coming out august 5th he will be with his brother and his ex-girlfriend.

53:30Jackie Oshry:Okay.

53:30Claudia Oshry:Is there a host? Or not his brother. Yes, Amanda Kloots.

53:34Jackie Oshry:Okay, I saw that she had posted about it and I was wondering if she was the host. That feels really random.

53:39Claudia Oshry:So instead of just using his own judgment, Chowzie will rely on the opinions of his close friends. Amanda Kloots. Oh, long time bestie. Georgia Hassarotti, who's his ex-girlfriend. Okay. And abstract artist Sunny Henty to sway his romantic decisions.

53:53Jackie Oshry:I can't believe that they didn't put you on the panel because you are Harry Chowzie's not only best friend but number one fan. They should have put me on the panel. You know what's right for Harry.

54:00Claudia Oshry:And I wouldn't even like that sort of wise older woman like 1 ,000 % Not that you're old of course

54:04Jackie Oshry:but you have like old energy.

54:06Claudia Oshry:That's my son right there.

54:07Jackie Oshry:Right. I think that's what they think

54:09Claudia Oshry:like Amanda Kloots is. Oh. And like not to step on her toes but I would. Like that's my job bitch. I would have been better. Maybe instead of pot stirs Right. I could have been on Let's Marry Harry as a panelist.

54:19Jackie Oshry:Let me tell you something like people say what they want about Alex Cooper. She's firing on all motherfucking cylinders like the Nina Dobrev. She's what is she adapting? oh I put it on my want to read right um oh oh the ice ice breakers oh yeah ice breakers um but a different one that I want that's not the one you can't keep a good businesswoman down now she sold this to Netflix like you deserve to know is the other one yeah and I feel like now that like it has really passed it didn't really stick yeah yes we do still have Sophia's book and I guess Alex Earl one day is going to tell us what happened between them on her reality show but at some point like when you make people wait too long they do stop caring and I fear that that might be what happened and like daddy gang is gonna daddy gang yeah one thing about me I'll be watching this show you're gonna marry Harry I'm gonna you could be our official course the way that I recapped Rhode Island because I'm not watching this uh you we're gonna be together so you're gonna oh it's coming out soon August 5th I'm just letting you know like now that Love

55:19Claudia Oshry:Island like will be over I need to be more selective with my time you never know how these things could pay off I watched Catching Kelsey in real time you did you did and like that just gave me an insight of course into someone who would become like ahead of the curve mainly like a hugely important historical figure like that wedding will go down as like the biggest

55:35Jackie Oshry:wedding yeah of the 21st century and like we were here for it and you were there first and I saw him

55:40Claudia Oshry:like talking to girls with like LMFAO yeah taking him on a double date yeah you know yeah um so I will watch this i'm so excited you'll report back and i let's marry harry what if we just married harry i really should have been a panelist like my qualifying first of all it's an amazing title my qualifying characteristic is that i have a son named harry so like of course i'm invested

56:03Jackie Oshry:do they get like proposed to at the end of this because i saw somebody doing a recap on love island and it was such a good call where it's like we're talking about zach and kata like this girl who recaps her name is coach jackie she was like we're used to watching tv we're like people get married always like the bachelor you always get married love is fine you get married it's like you won't even call someone your girlfriend i think that's why people are having such a visceral reaction to it because maybe in the real world this would be like a normal timeline it's only been six weeks we are used to people like meeting the families getting married or at least being proposed to by the end of our reality shows yeah let's get into the love island

56:31Claudia Oshry:recap because i'm really of two minds on the kate and zach thing now of course like when i see him being like no not boyfriend and girlfriend exclusively dating even though you've been exclusively dating and no one else is coming in so you actually have no choice but to close the

56:43Jackie Oshry:The girl who recaps says saying that is like saying, oh, I'm not hungry and there's nothing in the fridge.

56:47Claudia Oshry:Wait, that's what Ian said in his voiceover. Oh, you're right. It was Ian, not my girl. Not my girl. No, it's like just so obvious there's no other option. A thousand percent. And then she like goes and tells Trinity that she got these crumbs and she said like, look, I have a cake. And Trinity's like, no, you don't have a cake. That's not a cake. So, of course, I'm like, he's not. And given the pattern of how he's acted this whole season, I see that and I'm like, hey. Yeah. on the other hand yeah there is a world in which like i can't make you my girlfriend like to if you take the word like boyfriend girlfriend dating relationship very seriously like we've just been sitting around in our bathing suits all day like i want to take you home i want to get to know you i want to date you actually and then you could be my girlfriend like i think that they there's a chance that they just like take that term very seriously and what's happening in the villa is

57:31Jackie Oshry:not serious well so i think that yes that's very reasonable i just don't think he's given anyone any reason to give him grace. He went to the hideaway and got home the next day and said, we're still exploring, right? Like, he just hasn't felt like a good partner this whole time. So it's like, yeah, it's really sweet that, you're right. Like, if Bryce said it, yeah, of course. I'm reluctant to give him any sort of benefit of the doubt.

57:56Claudia Oshry:I agree with that. Also, it's just a shame, like, Bryce is 30 years old and he put everyone in the villa unnoticed because, like, if the first couple had just closed off or, like, was exclusive, then that would be the standard. But they became boyfriend and girlfriend a week ago. So it's like anything less than that. It's like, what even is that?

58:13Jackie Oshry:And Kata and Zach, Kata specifically, her favorite thing is like, we've been in here since day three. We've been in here for day three. So she was mad that people didn't vote for her to be in the top three because they've been together the longest. And it's like, we've been together the longest and you're accepting less than everybody else. Yeah. So the episode started off like so badly that I actually was just like mad the whole time. Oh my God. When the hideaway opened.

58:32Claudia Oshry:I had to airplay it from my phone so I couldn't be on my phone. Oh. So I literally was locked into the episode.

58:38Jackie Oshry:Oh, that's terrible. Oh, my God. Well, when they opened the hideaway and Trinity screams Melanie and Sincere, I just about died.

58:49Jackie Oshry:I actually would have rather seen I and Carl. Like, what on earth would work? First of all, they, Brittany and Trice. Trinity and Bryce must have not been allowed.

58:59Claudia Oshry:Because they had a date. They must have been.

59:01Jackie Oshry:There must be a reason why. Because it was so obviously supposed to be them. so let's say I actually don't even know because all these couples are bad but it should have been KC and TT they just don't get treated this is not an equal playing field like the core for the islanders that are in couples of OG islanders like they get preferential treatment because yeah KC and TT Melanie and Sincere are barely back together they didn't have sex KC and TT became boyfriend and girlfriend like they obviously should have been hideaway yeah also like the

59:27Claudia Oshry:fact that Sincere is getting hideaway right now after movie night like and Kenzie's still fighting for her life. Yeah, it's proof. When she literally committed, I'd say with 10 % of the crimes that Sincere did.

59:36Jackie Oshry:This literally further proving that like the women on this show are setting a bad example because Kenzie and Sincere technically committed the same crime even though I think Sincere was a hundred times worse. Sincere was back in his relationship two days later. Kenzie is still over here fighting for her life. Honestly, I wish half the bitches in this villa had as much self-respect for themselves as Dylan does. Dylan has a little too much self-respect. He's starting to piss me off. Like these girls are just embarrassing. Finally let it go. I was ready to be done with him

59:59Claudia Oshry:and if I were her, I'd be done with him because like what do you mean you're going to make me feel like shit all the time so much

1:00:03Jackie Oshry:apologizing like give me a chance to redeem myself I knew it was wrong you either accept it or you don't I wish Melanie would have some of that energy it's like these girls are just embarrassing like you accept nothing and all they do is talk about how much their men love them oh the villa's gonna shake oh my man's gonna know I'm asleep I can't leave the bed meanwhile Zach sincere slept two hours late like such a bullshit these girls are so embarrassing yeah they really are also

1:00:25Claudia Oshry:Dylan and Carla I think like Dylan's trying to like have a Bryce Trinity moment Zach right

1:00:30Jackie Oshry:Yes. Yeah.

1:00:31Claudia Oshry:Yes.

1:00:31Jackie Oshry:He's like really trying. He's really giving me the ick. He has been accused of clip farming. Do you know what that is? Where you're like, you do like really extra gestures to like be made into a jiff, you know? Oh, wow. Like movie night when he was eating the popcorn, he was like, like being a clip. And then somebody also saw when he was talking to someone, I think it was sincere. He like looked, made sure. I guess the cameras move and they follow people around. He made dead ass eye contact with the camera to make sure I was looking at him.

1:00:58Claudia Oshry:Oh my God. That's really embarrassing.

1:00:59Jackie Oshry:thing so right now I'm like real I also think last night's episode was very much like edited to make us like Casey and TT which I'm glad for I did see somebody like put together a clip of like a bunch of weird things he has said that like really point to even when he was saying that Casey she's worthy to be my girl it feels like Casey uh TT is really worthy of being my girl now like she's done a lot to prove to me it's like who the fuck do you think you are I didn't like how he said you're a slob like who are you yeah but like I I was getting myself I was getting taken away by the edit like it was cute I just you want to know what it's her she's so cute yeah she's so pretty she's so sweet because she like likes him so much she actually loves him which

1:01:35Claudia Oshry:I think it's fair that she loves him like you know when you love someone and like she's not gonna say to him but like she's crying at the water park because she likes him so much and she's so happy and then like to go home and have that be so validated like you are leapfrogging other couples because he wants and that was actually a cute gesture yeah oh it was so it went on a little too long and like they never told her what it was so they're like here's a picture pots come here it's not like we've set up a scavenger hunt for you yeah if you want to find casey follow the map follow the map no it was like pots yeah yeah is that fine it was at least

1:02:06Jackie Oshry:thoughtful like these girls melanie one time got breakfast in a chair it was at least this was so

1:02:11Claudia Oshry:it was also weird that zach helped out with it and then kato was like you know what's going on he's like no i really don't but like you do you just lied to your girlfriend's face and then he whispered like is this weird i mean i'm glad that they recognize the fact that it's weird timing because otherwise i'd be like they're so fake so yeah you can be happy for someone else and also like feel a little bit weird but why did he lie to her and say i don't know what's going on like it's not like a big secret you're like a big liar like it was about to be found out in five minutes

1:02:36Jackie Oshry:and instead like speaking of liars sincere told melanie that he didn't tell the guys anything he said i told i told him we did nothing and he said to the guys yeah we did something we did

1:02:46Claudia Oshry:some stuff oh I didn't I know I actually felt like he didn't tell them anything but he lied

1:02:50Jackie Oshry:about what he said to Melanie he's like I told the guys we did nothing like no you said we did

1:02:53Claudia Oshry:some stuff didn't say I didn't tell them what we did no I told them nothing I no no I told them we did nothing not I told them nothing he's a liar are you sure I watch he goes on to say

1:03:03Jackie Oshry:something on my phone he's like I'm not a liar and then I got like awkward oh yeah but I love you

1:03:12I hate them

1:03:13Jackie Oshry:I also did not because I watch episodes early because they come on at 835 that I'm never up for the vote because I go to sleep right after so I didn't vote but I guess it was vote for your four favorite islanders like we're now trying to vote for the top four final four couples

1:03:25Claudia Oshry:these are my final four couples Casey and Titi of course those are my winners Zach and Kada oh wow really Brinity and that's my winner should have started with them but I don't even think about them because they're just so obvious Kenzie and Dylan yeah because Melanie and Sincere and Anaya and Carl cannot cannot there are they're both going to be in the top four because that's like because I also think now people are going

1:03:49Jackie Oshry:to vote less for Zach and Kada like yeah so that could get Melanie or Anaya in they're already in

1:03:55Claudia Oshry:like this is who's going to be in the top four period I just want to say Melanie and Sincere Melania Sincere, Brinity, Carl and Anaya and

1:04:07Claudia Oshry:this is a wild card.

1:04:09Jackie Oshry:Yeah, because it's not going to be Kenzie and Dylan.

1:04:10Claudia Oshry:No, no, no. It's either going to be Zach and Kata or who's the other couple?

1:04:15Jackie Oshry:Melania Sincere?

1:04:16Claudia Oshry:No. Kacy and Tierra. It's going to be Kacy and Tierra. Yeah, I think so too. They got an edit.

1:04:21Jackie Oshry:They want them in there. Also, the conversation with all the girls, the core four besides Kata about Kata. I agree. Like, yeah, Kata's acting weird. like you want us to be excited you said oh look at this and what is this it's nothing but like them all three sitting behind her back like anaya the shit we could talk about you remember when you voted for casey and he came like uh melanie like you two are in no fucking position to be talking about other people and it was mean because like they're like toxic best friends so much so to the point that like they leave out the other girls and like you're over here now talking about your best friend i thought that was a really bad look for like anaya trinity and melanie yeah at

1:04:54Claudia Oshry:least for trinity like everything that she said to kita is what she said to her face you know They're just like discussing the situation.

1:04:59Jackie Oshry:Like Trinity is in a position to judge because like, look, I got my man to commit to me.

1:05:04Claudia Oshry:But it's also like.

1:05:05Jackie Oshry:It's like, Millie, you can't even get your man to stop making out with bombshells.

1:05:07Claudia Oshry:I would take Trinity's advice. But just because Trinity's like says something doesn't mean we all have to do it like that. No, the four of them are. Oh, she didn't make you a girlfriend. Like, and I. So high school. She should make her his girlfriend. Uh-huh. But it's just because like you say it doesn't mean that everybody has to do it that way too. Yeah. And she's obviously happy and doesn't get sense of these things from him.

1:05:27Jackie Oshry:no I think that I think we need to look up that I think she was more upset that with them saying it because she like she didn't think about it until they brought it up because like Zach is very manipulative so it's like yeah he tells her this is so great this is what we want we're doing this and we're happy she's like yeah we're happy she goes tell her friends and it's kind of like a dose of reality and she was like oh wait like they're kind of right but you're like messing up my vibe so I'm gonna be mad at you now instead of being mad yeah I think also they were right

1:05:50Claudia Oshry:they're right to have concerns because it's like he's giving her nothing but calling it a situation

1:05:54Jackie Oshry:is not what it is and is offensive and it is factually incorrect yes it's just him dragging his feet on commitment it's not uh situationship is where you're still fucking like other people and so like kenzie having her back even though like they've really not been a good friend to kenzie they totally ditched her like yeah she was one of the og islanders i think they were all really close and then the whole like melanie corderman thing no and also she's like she's

1:06:14Claudia Oshry:only been interested in kenzie like this whole time like she started to stray with like the Caleb and Corbin thing just like doing god knows what yeah so I think that like you know Kada

1:06:23Jackie Oshry:getting support from like the one girl who like it's like this random yeah meant a lot to her but like I'm so over these people like they're genuinely embarrassing yeah it's not a situation

1:06:34Claudia Oshry:but like exclusively dating is just you having to come up with new words and phrases it's being in a relationship but not wanting to call it that because why right you need to come up with a new thing when he asked it's not like you're getting it's not like a proposal so it's like what's the worst thing that happens if we say boyfriend and girlfriend in here and we go home and it doesn't work out what's it when we broke up like you're breaking up anyway even if you're not boyfriend

1:06:55Jackie Oshry:girlfriend what's the big deal when casey was like i'm gonna ask tt and zach was like be your girlfriend or exclusively date like that's not a phase that's not a part of the journey especially when no one else is coming in here oh my god he was pissing me off i cannot wait for this show

1:07:11Claudia Oshry:It's just funny because if Bryce wasn't there like being 30 years old, then everyone's big milestone would be closing off. And Zach would look like a good guy. Zach fucked up his whole season when he told Kada that he wanted to close off and then took it back after she made out with Caleb when he was the bombshell.

1:07:27Jackie Oshry:Also, when he told her that he loved her and said he was joking. Also, when he went to the hideaway, came back and just wanted to reaffirm that they were still open to exploring other people. It's like, yeah, you can still be exploring. You don't have to close off just yet, but you're bringing it up. Your dick is still inside of her. Like he is actually fucking crazy.

1:07:43Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And then he wonders why like people don't like him.

1:07:46Jackie Oshry:Yeah. He's very unlikable. Even when he woke up without the girls. And they were just remarking how it's like less crazy to be like, you know, it's more peaceful. I knew what they were saying. He took it too far. He was like, has the sky always been that low?

1:07:58Claudia Oshry:I know. Now we just see him through that light.

1:08:00Jackie Oshry:But I understood what he was saying. I understood what they were all saying. We're not like rushing to work in a diner and make breakfast. Like he took it too far. Like he's just I really can't stand him.

1:08:10Claudia Oshry:I don't I can stand him. It's all because of namesake. You think so. Charlie. Yeah. But Zach too. Oh yeah. I like him and Keaton. I think that they're a good couple. Like I think he just is like commitment averse.

1:08:26Jackie Oshry:But they're young too. Like they need to start casting older more mature people. That's why Love is Blind was so good. And when they went to casting 25 year olds. Sorry these people aren't getting engaged on TV. like not even 25 like 22 like bring me some 20 look at Bryce he's like the most well adjusted he's 30 bring me 27 to 35 yeah they're not people act like like once you turn 26 you're like

1:08:48Claudia Oshry:unattractive like who the show's for so then you have to think of like true like the gen z and they hate that I'm watching a show they have no issue that like oh they didn't close off soon enough they're not taking the relationship seriously they're like go twerk at the challenge right we're 21 you can't twerk I guess yeah well that's the sound of mine advice from that's

1:09:06Jackie Oshry:a sound of mind recap for two millennial women watching the wrong show the show is not wrong we are wrong for it yeah yeah all right well we'll see you on the recap on thursday finally we get tonight off what should we do and i'm dreading i'm dreading family episodes

1:09:23Claudia Oshry:same i'm dreading the baby episode oh i forgot i actually don't think i can watch it i mean

1:09:28Jackie Oshry:maybe we just come back for the fifth and final i'm not gonna watch the baby episode like the

1:09:32Claudia Oshry:The crying. It's like. It's offensive to us as mothers. It's triggering. Yeah. And the family episode. Like I don't really like you guys.

1:09:39Jackie Oshry:Let alone your families. Oh my God. Melanie talking about her mother. In the hideaway. First of all that's weird. And her saying. My mom would forgive you. It's like well no wonder you are the way that you are. Like what are you even talking about. If I'm her mom. I'm so mad. Like now you're telling everyone I'm weak. Yeah. What the fuck. Like seriously. Get these people off my screen. I never want to see them again. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast the Millennium Morning Show. where we deliver the fast-sized stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube.

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